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| Part` | Hello. | 01:39 |
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| CosmoHill | rawr | 01:42 |
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| DawnFoster | CosmoHill: there is no growling in meego :) | 01:46 |
| CosmoHill | that wasn't a growl, that was a rawr | 01:47 |
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| CosmoHill | but I do growl too, mostly at MS | 01:47 |
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| CosmoHill | w00t, it's a w00t_ | 01:50 |
| CosmoHill | DawnFoster: so how was your day? | 01:51 |
| DawnFoster | CosmoHill: good - actually getting some good work done. Yours? | 01:51 |
| CosmoHill | if it wasn't for my friend I would have said today was a waist | 01:52 |
| CosmoHill | or waste* | 01:52 |
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| CosmoHill | hey lbt, how goes? | 01:57 |
| lbt | hey CosmoHill.... you know... looking for a job | 01:59 |
| CosmoHill | oh | 02:00 |
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| CosmoHill | good luck with that | 02:05 |
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| lbt | :) | 02:12 |
| * lbt is not alone | 02:12 | |
| mihero_ | seems to quite a lot that going around | 02:13 |
| mihero_ | +be | 02:13 |
| berndhs | yeah | 02:13 |
| lbt | nb "looking" != "fired" or anything.... just being safe | 02:13 |
| mihero_ | I was just cleaning my CV:) | 02:14 |
| mihero_ | yep | 02:14 |
| CosmoHill | I had to clean up my CV | 02:14 |
| CosmoHill | it's part of my dissertation | 02:14 |
| Part` | I had to find a job. | 02:14 |
| Part` | University make me bored. | 02:14 |
| lbt | I am always optimistic and can still hope that Nokia will find a way out of the darkness... | 02:14 |
| CosmoHill | I'm in my final year | 02:15 |
| Part` | i'm in the second year, but all courses are really boring. | 02:15 |
| Part` | i'm 'drawing' some crap in catia and pro/engineer | 02:15 |
| timeless_w7ip | so, fwiw, http://mxr.meego.com/meego.gitorious.org/source/meegotouchcp-sync/project.pro | 02:15 |
| timeless_w7ip | you should be able to use the chooser at the bottom of gitorious mxr pages to view other revisions of files :) | 02:16 |
| CosmoHill | Part`: maybe you're on the wrong course? | 02:16 |
| CosmoHill | I see that's been fixed | 02:16 |
| Part` | CosmoHill: no, it's Computer Science. And only this semester contains those subjects. | 02:16 |
| CosmoHill | hope your course isn't like mine | 02:17 |
| CosmoHill | "didn't we do this last year?" | 02:17 |
| Part` | would be great to find a job as qt developer, or something related. | 02:17 |
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| Part` | last year i seen only Java/.NET offers. | 02:17 |
| CosmoHill | I've done: MSSQL, MySQL, C/C++, Java. AS3, PHP, html, css and JS | 02:18 |
| Part` | what university you are attending? | 02:19 |
| CosmoHill | ARU in Essex | 02:19 |
| Part` | Let me google it. :p | 02:19 |
| CosmoHill | anglia.ac.uk | 02:19 |
| CosmoHill | it may work, it may not. our internet cable got cut somehow | 02:19 |
| Part` | nice website | 02:21 |
| CosmoHill | our uni LAN has basically been cut in half cos someone drilled too deep about 12 miles away from campus | 02:21 |
| CosmoHill | my name has been passed onto the developer who did it :) | 02:21 |
| lcuk | timeless_w7ip, tld error on that footer section | 02:22 |
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| CosmoHill | Part`: what do you do with arch linux? | 02:24 |
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| Part` | package maintaining, usually | 02:25 |
| Part` | sometimes translations, general scripting | 02:25 |
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| CosmoHill | kudos | 02:26 |
| Part` | thanks | 02:27 |
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| Part` | k, i'm gonna sleep | 02:28 |
| Part` | see you. | 02:28 |
| niala1 | see you in bed? ohhh | 02:28 |
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| CosmoHill | plop niala1 | 02:39 |
| niala1 | nice day CosmoHill ? | 02:40 |
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| CosmoHill | meh | 02:41 |
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| niala1 | CosmoHill: funny image http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=meh | 02:48 |
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| CosmoHill | night night | 02:59 |
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| lcuk | lbt nn CosmoHill | 02:59 |
| lcuk | -lbt | 02:59 |
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| niala1 | good night cosmoHill | 03:00 |
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| timeless_w7ip | lcuk: that's intentioanl | 03:01 |
| timeless_w7ip | s/anl/nal/ | 03:01 |
| infobot | timeless_w7ip meant: lcuk: that's intentional | 03:01 |
| lcuk | timeless_w7ip, ahh, I tohught it was for the lookup | 03:01 |
| lcuk | thought | 03:02 |
| timeless_w7ip | lcuk: well, in cases where the system knows more, it'll do something more magical | 03:02 |
| timeless_w7ip | in this case, it doesn't know enough and there's intentional fallback | 03:02 |
| lcuk | that has always been the way. | 03:02 |
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| timeless_w7ip | http://meego.gitorious.org/qemu-maemo/gles-libs/commit/a9316fe4d111aab1bde051430c55e87542a020d8 | 03:04 |
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| timeless_w7ip | boy that's helpful | 03:04 |
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| lcuk | timeless_w7ip, gitweb could show overview of commits without including the contents | 03:05 |
| lcuk | it would certainly be more user friendly | 03:06 |
| timeless_w7ip | user friendly... gitweb... ... | 03:06 |
| timeless_w7ip | .. ... | 03:06 |
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| timeless_w7ip | i wouldn't even ask for such a thing :) | 03:06 |
| lcuk | timeless_w7ip, in this context, we are the users. | 03:07 |
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| timeless_w7ip | http://mxr.meego.com/hgweb.cgi/air/rev/1c75a7f9f159 :) | 03:35 |
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| timeless_w7ip | lcuk: so... | 03:45 |
| timeless_w7ip | something confused the code... if you reload that page which had the bad tld thing, you should see something less odd | 03:45 |
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| lcuk | timeless_w7ip, :) great stuff | 03:46 |
| * lcuk sees a giturl :) | 03:46 | |
| timeless_w7ip | that's not what i want it to say fwiw | 03:46 |
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| timeless_w7ip | note that mxr actually thinks it's an hg url | 03:46 |
| lcuk | timeless_w7ip, sortof, but that is certainly a step in the right direction | 03:47 |
| timeless_w7ip | lcuk: no, seriously. the repo that mxr has is .hg, it just happens to be rather magical | 03:48 |
| lcuk | heh, we could do with some magic :) | 03:49 |
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| timeless_w7ip | yeah, i'm working on it | 03:51 |
| timeless_w7ip | oh, so this kinda sucks | 03:51 |
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| timeless_w7ip | the 'rev/' bit comes from the chooser | 03:51 |
| timeless_w7ip | it's just static text :) | 03:51 |
| lcuk | I don't know where you are reading the variables from, how is the mxr storing stuff? is it in a database? | 03:52 |
| timeless_w7ip | http://mxr.meego.com/meego.gitorious.org/source/meegotouch-controlpanelapplets/.hg/hgrc | 03:53 |
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| lcuk | hmm cannot concentrate or know how that relates tonight timeless_w7ip, going to bed, will catch you earlier tomorrow no doubt \o | 03:56 |
| timeless_w7ip | tomorrow? | 03:56 |
| timeless_w7ip | it's 4am today | 03:56 |
| timeless_w7ip | i'll be back sunday or monday :) | 03:56 |
| lcuk | not quite that late here, and I havent slept yet | 03:56 |
| lcuk | so :P tomorrow | 03:56 |
| timeless_w7ip | if you wake up past 4pm today my time, i won't be around | 03:57 |
| * lcuk will be up around 9 :) gnite timeless | 03:57 | |
| timeless_w7ip | night | 03:57 |
| * timeless_w7ip isn't quite sure what to do about the git bits | 03:58 | |
| timeless_w7ip | this code would get horribly confused if i actually converted things | 03:58 |
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| timeless_w7ip | almost there | 04:33 |
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| timeless_w7ip | lcuk: so, http://mxr.meego.com/meego.gitorious.org/source/gles-libs/debian/libdgles2-dev.install now has links for 'Gitorious' and 'History' | 05:25 |
| timeless_w7ip | they're in the box at the top right | 05:25 |
| timeless_w7ip | the thing at the bottom is really a local version chooser, so, it's back to showing its native version bits | 05:26 |
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| sivang | is phonon being deprecated in favor of qtmuldimediakit? | 05:49 |
| gabrbedd | sivang: yes. | 05:50 |
| sivang | gabrbedd: great, what are the reasons ? (e.g. back transparency?) | 05:51 |
| sivang | (backend, that is) | 05:51 |
| gabrbedd | sivang: I remember seeing a blog about it somewhere... just a sec... | 05:51 |
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| gabrbedd | sivang: http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2009/09/09/multimedia-in-qt-whats-the-story/ | 05:52 |
| gabrbedd | DawnFoster: do you ever sleep? | 05:52 |
| sivang | gabrbedd: thanks, be right back workrave wants the computer :) | 05:53 |
| sivang | hey DawnFoster , here? | 05:53 |
| * sivang just found a very nice resource from forum nokia that could help us close the developer's guide if we add some narrative docs on top of them. | 05:54 | |
| DawnFoster | gabrbedd: well, it's only 8pm here :) | 05:54 |
| DawnFoster | hey sivang | 05:54 |
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| sivang | https://projects.forum.nokia.com/qtquickplayground | 05:55 |
| andylou | Anyone please help me setup wireless on Meego | 05:55 |
| * gabrbedd can't get the hang of PST. | 05:55 | |
| andylou | anyone come across with RT3090? | 05:55 |
| sivang | gabrbedd: pst? | 05:55 |
| sivang | feedback appreciated, btw | 05:55 |
| gabrbedd | sivang: Pacific Standard Time, it's the time zone for Portland. | 05:56 |
| andylou | RT3090 .... setup on meego...how? | 05:56 |
| sivang | gabrbedd: ah, me neither :) | 05:56 |
| andylou | pls | 05:56 |
| gabrbedd | andylou: RT3090 is no fun. | 05:56 |
| andylou | yah | 05:56 |
| * sivang hopes for some nice news for meego con in SF. | 05:56 | |
| andylou | i know it's not fun | 05:56 |
| andylou | but I am stuck | 05:56 |
| sivang | anyway, workrave gets the keyboard now | 05:56 |
| gabrbedd | andylou: I had a couple machines with RT3090 and tried using the rt3090-dkms | 05:56 |
| andylou | whole day doing it | 05:56 |
| andylou | so is that working? | 05:56 |
| andylou | rt3090-dkms | 05:57 |
| gabrbedd | andylou: but I don't think I ever got it working with MeeGo. | 05:57 |
| andylou | ooh | 05:57 |
| andylou | i love the interface | 05:57 |
| gabrbedd | andylou: Meanwhile, we chose to go with a tablet with an atheros Wifi card. | 05:57 |
| andylou | but if I can't used wifi | 05:57 |
| andylou | atheros | 05:57 |
| gabrbedd | andylou: Anyway... that's as far as I got with rt3090. | 05:57 |
| andylou | atheros wifi card... if I have that I don't have to install anything | 05:57 |
| andylou | it will detected on Meego for Atheros wifi | 05:58 |
| gabrbedd | andylou: correct, I think most any atheros will work out of the box, no assembly required. | 05:58 |
| andylou | do you have any that run on USB | 05:58 |
| andylou | ? | 05:58 |
| andylou | i mean can you suggess any | 05:58 |
| gabrbedd | andylou: forget about it. you've got a rt3090... I was just explaining why I moved on. | 05:59 |
| gabrbedd | andylou: Have you done much with Linux before? | 05:59 |
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| andylou | no | 05:59 |
| andylou | not linux | 05:59 |
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| gabrbedd | andylou: Done much compiling before? | 05:59 |
| andylou | no | 05:59 |
| andylou | i am new in linux | 06:00 |
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| andylou | i will chat later | 06:00 |
| andylou | brb | 06:00 |
| gabrbedd | andylou: OK, then I'm afraid I don't have much good new for MeeGo + rt3090. | 06:00 |
| gabrbedd | :-( | 06:00 |
| gabrbedd | andylou: However, I've made it work on Ubuntu and you can probably get it working on Fedora. | 06:01 |
| DawnFoster | the real question is what are all of you guys doing up - it's late over there :) | 06:01 |
| gabrbedd | Heh... long story for me. :-) But I'm usually working at this time of night. | 06:03 |
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| * wmarone kicks obs | 06:11 | |
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| gabrbedd | -*- obs starts playing "Sea of Love" | 06:13 |
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| wmarone | hmm | 06:13 |
| wmarone | nice dependency knot here | 06:13 |
| gabrbedd | knot? | 06:14 |
| wmarone | not a knot I suppose | 06:14 |
| wmarone | but opensuse 11.3 is unable to fill the requirement of libMagickCore2 that obs requires | 06:14 |
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| gabrbedd | ewww... | 06:15 |
| wmarone | yeah | 06:15 |
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| gabrbedd | i hit one of those with fedora's `hal` package recently. | 06:16 |
| wmarone | the silly part is that I installed opensuse to avoid the problems of such a distro-specific applicatoin | 06:17 |
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| wmarone | application* | 06:17 |
| wmarone | heh | 06:17 |
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| gabrbedd | Jeesh. Yeah, I can't *wait* to try and install OBS on a debian box. | 06:19 |
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| timoph | morning | 06:22 |
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| gabrbedd | timoph: evening | 06:23 |
| timoph | 6.23am here :) | 06:23 |
| gabrbedd | Same here... in about 8 hours. :-) | 06:24 |
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| timoph | not even that late | 06:24 |
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| timoph | hmmh. let's see if bugzilla has something interesting for me | 06:27 |
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| ar | 5:28AM here | 06:28 |
| timoph | .ru? | 06:30 |
| ar | .pl | 06:31 |
| timoph | ah | 06:31 |
| iekku | timoph, morning :) | 06:31 |
| timoph | iekku: morn o/ | 06:31 |
| iekku | timoph, in 1h I will be at office too | 06:31 |
| iekku | first cop of coffee :D | 06:32 |
| timoph | I've had 1.5 cups of coffee in my life | 06:33 |
| ar | "cop of coffee"? i've heard about that usb disk with some strange stuff created by microsoft and handed out to cops, but... | 06:33 |
| timoph | :D | 06:33 |
| ar | (and, coincidentially, it's named "coffee" | 06:33 |
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| iekku | timoph, nice | 06:34 |
| iekku | ar, hah | 06:34 |
| ar | also... | 06:34 |
| * ar mutters something about windows iscsi performance | 06:35 | |
| iekku | please, don't swear? | 06:36 |
| ar | i won't | 06:36 |
| ar | at least, i won't write it here | 06:36 |
| iekku | :D | 06:37 |
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| ar | but that said, if i one gets, on average, about 10MB/s more linear write speed than windows gets linear read speed (with same target settings), it means that something has to be wrong with windows. and i've already tuned the target settings for the windows initiator (i started with 45MB/s linear read speed, ended up with 60 to 65) | 06:39 |
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| ranamalo | can one install any software one wants? | 06:58 |
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| ranamalo | like can I compile from source a package? | 06:58 |
| ranamalo | does that generally work? | 06:58 |
| gabrbedd | ranamalo: yes. | 06:59 |
| ranamalo | is there a way to install meego as a vm so I can try it? | 07:00 |
| ranamalo | like with virtualbox or xen or something? | 07:00 |
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| ranamalo | gabrbedd: it's rpm based right? | 07:01 |
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| gabrbedd | ranamalo: yes, you can install meego in a vm. Search wiki.meego.com. There's several ways to do it. I've personally run the MeeGo SDK through qemu, and it works OK. | 07:03 |
| gabrbedd | ranamalo: And yes, MeeGo uses rpm for package management. | 07:04 |
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| ranamalo | gabrbedd: you always have root right? It's like like android where you need to jailbreak your stuff | 07:04 |
| ranamalo | gabrbedd: like if I buy a nokia n900 | 07:05 |
| wmarone | ranamalo: depends on what a device vendor decides to do | 07:06 |
| wmarone | meego does not guarantee a vendor will play nice | 07:06 |
| gabrbedd | ranamalo: I haven't dev'd on android... so I'm not sure what you're asking. | 07:06 |
| gabrbedd | ranamalo: I dev MeeGo on netbooks, and it's almost just like any other linux distro in that regard. | 07:07 |
| ranamalo | wmarone: if it's unlocked that means no dirty proprietary games. Is that correct? | 07:07 |
| wmarone | ranamalo: well, almost all the games you will find are proprietary | 07:07 |
| ranamalo | gabrbedd: sounds good. that's what I'm looking for | 07:07 |
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| ranamalo | wmarone: no i mean like locking me out of my own hardware | 07:08 |
| wmarone | I know | 07:08 |
| ranamalo | wmarone: that type of game | 07:08 |
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| wmarone | games don't lock you out of your hardware | 07:08 |
| wmarone | handset vendors try to though | 07:08 |
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| wmarone | and meego has a security framework that can be used to enforce such | 07:08 |
| wmarone | note /can/, not /will/ | 07:09 |
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| Lukian | can MeeGo be installed while skipping the bootloader installation in the setup process? | 08:19 |
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| dm8tbr | Lukian: what are you talking about? | 08:49 |
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| sshorm | jayne: hi | 09:12 |
| sshorm | DCC SEND irc.tddirc.net#hackerthreads 0 0 0 | 09:12 |
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| sshorm | DCC SEND irc.tddirc.net#hackerthreads 0 0 0 | 09:12 |
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| sshorm | DCC SEND irc.tddirc.net#hackerthreads 0 0 0 | 09:13 |
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| bleeter | wtf is that dcc stuff yer fiddling with sshorm | 09:13 |
| Tm_T | bleeter: spam, ignore | 09:13 |
| sshorm | l33t hax | 09:13 |
| Bostik | okay, who has trojaned client? | 09:14 |
| sshorm | it's not a trojan | 09:14 |
| bleeter | Tm_T: yeah, just pissin' me off... grr | 09:14 |
| sshorm | it's a router bug | 09:14 |
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| sshorm | people with old router firmwares will disconnect when they get that message | 09:14 |
| sshorm | DCC SEND irc.tddirc.net#hackerthreads 0 0 0 | 09:14 |
| sshorm | it's also annoying in all clients that aren't irssi | 09:14 |
| sshorm | because all clients that aren't irssi suck | 09:14 |
| bleeter | sshorm: so you're trying to piss people off on purpose? | 09:15 |
| iekku | sshorm, that's not very nice | 09:15 |
| sshorm | yes | 09:15 |
| sshorm | just /ignore sshorm ALL | 09:15 |
| sshorm | DCC SEND irc.tddirc.net#hackerthreads 0 0 0 | 09:15 |
| bleeter | sshorm: maybe you're new to freenode, but that's k-lineable stuff | 09:15 |
| bleeter | just stop it | 09:16 |
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| sshorm | DCC SEND irc.tddirc.net#hackerthreads 0 0 0 | 09:16 |
| iekku | I'm hoping that too | 09:16 |
| sshorm | bleeter: i've been glined more times than you've been laid | 09:16 |
| Tm_T | kids, stop commenting on spam, it aint helping | 09:16 |
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| sshorm | Tm_T: lol | 09:17 |
| AgentBlair | sshorm why are you sending me stuff | 09:17 |
| iekku | Tm_T, ok dad :) | 09:17 |
| Tm_T | (;) | 09:17 |
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| * Tm_T is sorry for his bit grumpy action above | 09:18 | |
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| sshorm | this channel is no fun | 09:18 |
| sshorm | see ya | 09:18 |
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| AgentBlair | sshorm goddamnit dont send me shit | 09:18 |
| AgentBlair | who was he | 09:18 |
| AgentBlair | or she | 09:18 |
| AgentBlair | sshorm wants to send you irc.tddirc.net#hackerthreads (Unknown.) | 09:18 |
| iekku | it's not allowed to swear in here, so can't answer ;) | 09:18 |
| Tm_T | welcome to the IRC: commenting on spam is just giving those kids the attention they are looking for | 09:18 |
| AgentBlair | aye alright | 09:19 |
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| bleeter | Tm_T: indeed, just wanted to make sure they knew what they were doing before hopping in to #staff to see if my mate was around ;) | 09:19 |
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| poutsi | let's hope the univesity of miami is serious about logging and abuse emails :p | 11:10 |
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| Tm_T | poutsi: miami? | 11:14 |
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| Tm_T | oh right | 11:15 |
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| lardman | Does mic-image-creator normally take an age at the "Running scripts" stage? | 11:35 |
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| lardman | I've never actually had to sit around and wait for it before, so am not sure if this is normal or not | 11:35 |
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| lardman | hmm, I'll see if it's an error in the ks file then | 11:41 |
| lardman | bbl | 11:41 |
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| timeless_w7ip | Completed stage 4 (16988s):Information on 12918231 identifiers dumped to disk. | 11:49 |
| timeless_w7ip | sp3000: yum | 11:49 |
| timeless_w7ip | ok, so, if people want to try to use mxr.meego.com/repo.meego.com, the ident database is now working | 11:50 |
| timeless_w7ip | which should make it vaguely useful | 11:50 |
| arfoll | timeless_w7ip, you're so positive | 11:51 |
| timeless_w7ip | this isn't the final repo.meego.com, and it isn't cronned | 11:51 |
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| timeless_w7ip | arfoll: well, i'm not quite sure what people will do with it, and i'm not sure how mxr will deal w/ a database of 12 million identifiers... | 11:51 |
| arfoll | I get : ** Fatal: Search isn't available; please complain to the webmaster [cite: bad_glimpseindex] | 11:52 |
| timeless_w7ip | yeah, 'search' doesn't work, 'ident' does | 11:52 |
| timeless_w7ip | amusingly enough, the identifier index pass finished before the glimpse index pass | 11:52 |
| timeless_w7ip | i'm fairly certain that traditionally glimpse is the fast leg | 11:52 |
| * timeless_w7ip wonders what's causing glimpse to be unhappy | 11:52 | |
| timeless_w7ip | oh, why do i bother. | 11:53 |
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| timeless_w7ip | name too long: /data/mxr-data/repo.meego.com/source-root/alsa-lib/include/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa | 11:53 |
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| * timeless_w7ip thanks alsa for being *stupid* | 11:53 | |
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| arfoll | timeless_w7ip, works well | 11:53 |
| timeless_w7ip | there are dozens of these evil things | 11:54 |
| timeless_w7ip | name too long: /data/mxr-data/repo.meego.com/source-root/meego-lsb/patches/meego-lsb/patches/meego-lsb/patches/meego-lsb/patches/meego-lsb/patches/post-build-checks/patches/meego-lsb/patches/post-build-checks/patches/python-twisted-core/doc/specifications | 11:54 |
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| timeless_w7ip | actually, so far those are the only two that glimpse has hit | 11:55 |
| timeless_w7ip | come to think of it, iirc i ended up adding a patch to my other glimpses to deal with evil packages | 12:00 |
| * timeless_w7ip would have to vpn in and ask | 12:00 | |
| tybollt | timeless_w7ip: I see from your nic you took you CEO literally? :) | 12:02 |
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| timeless_w7ip | tybollt: aww,g, thanks | 12:04 |
| timeless_w7ip | this was actually more of a gift from Intel/LF than Nokia | 12:04 |
| timeless_w7ip | i got it because LF paid for me to go to MeeGo Conf Dublin :) | 12:04 |
| timeless_w7ip | Nokia wouldn't pay even though i was a speaker .. | 12:05 |
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| mikhas | DawnFoster1, still awake? what do you think about https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13696 - can we get the ML? | 12:13 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug 13696 nor, Undecided, ---, dawn.m.foster, NEW, Request for dedicated meego-inputmethods ML | 12:13 |
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| Mazzaa | when does MeeGo 1.2 come to N900 | 12:25 |
| Stskeeps | when 1.2 is released | 12:26 |
| Mazzaa | and what is that day? | 12:26 |
| Mazzaa | or month :D | 12:26 |
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| Mazzaa | any one? | 12:27 |
| timeless_w7ip | mazzaa: stop asking | 12:27 |
| Mazzaa | i can ask if i dont know? | 12:27 |
| timeless_w7ip | no | 12:28 |
| Mazzaa | this channel is for general discussion... | 12:28 |
| timeless_w7ip | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=meego+release+schedule | 12:28 |
| timeless_w7ip | % | 12:28 |
| Mazzaa | so just tell me and i will stop asking | 12:28 |
| timeless_w7ip | ^ | 12:28 |
| Mazzaa | hahaha xD | 12:28 |
| Mazzaa | you think you are funny with that letmegooglethatforyou link? | 12:29 |
| timeless_w7ip | no | 12:29 |
| timeless_w7ip | i think you're an idiot | 12:29 |
| timeless_w7ip | for not googling firstr | 12:29 |
| Mazzaa | hahahahahahahha xD | 12:29 |
| timeless_w7ip | s/tr/t/ | 12:29 |
| infobot | timeless_w7ip meant: for not googling first | 12:29 |
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| timeless_w7ip | fwiw, i'm actually impressed w/ the google hits for that query | 12:32 |
| timeless_w7ip | kudos for the wikians etc | 12:32 |
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| * timeless_w7ip notes that the query for meego 1.2 release schedule actually gives the right answer.. | 12:35 | |
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| timeless_w7ip | stskeeps: anyway, can you try mxr.meego.com/repo.meego.com and tell me what you think? - freetext search isn't ready yet -- alsa-lib and meego-lsb insisted on being evil | 12:36 |
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| ali1234 | you see those charts on the release page? | 12:39 |
| ali1234 | (release schedule) | 12:40 |
| timeless_w7ip | http://mxr.meego.com/repo.meego.com/source/meego-lsb/meego-lsb.spec#21 | 12:40 |
| timeless_w7ip | ali1234: yeah | 12:40 |
| timeless_w7ip | they're cute/shiny | 12:40 |
| ali1234 | why do they go new, resolved, verified? | 12:40 |
| timeless_w7ip | instead of? | 12:40 |
| timeless_w7ip | new=bugs that aren't resolved | 12:40 |
| ali1234 | that puts the "actually fixed" bugs in the middle of the bar | 12:40 |
| timeless_w7ip | resolved=bugs that aren't verified | 12:40 |
| ali1234 | it should go new, verified, resolved | 12:40 |
| ali1234 | you know, in the order that things happen | 12:40 |
| timeless_w7ip | a bug's life is "reported", "resolved fixed", "verified fixed" | 12:41 |
| ali1234 | so that you can tell how far "done" it is at a glance | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | ali1234: they go new, assigned, resolved, verified | 12:41 |
| ali1234 | oh, ok | 12:41 |
| * thiago thought that "new = bugs that aren't resolved" and "resolved = bugs that aren't new" | 12:41 | |
| timeless_w7ip | verified is closer to done than resolved | 12:41 |
| thiago | :-) | 12:41 |
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| ali1234 | i thought "verified" was like "confirmed" | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | ali1234: there's a diagram somewhere | 12:41 |
| lcuk | \o | 12:41 |
| timeless_w7ip | thiago: my aren't we feeling helpful | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | ali1234: no, it means QA tested developer aren't lying | 12:41 |
| timeless_w7ip | https://bugs.meego.com/page.cgi?id=fields.html#status | 12:41 |
| thiago | RESOLVED -> bug is fixed | 12:41 |
| thiago | VERIFIED -> verified by QA that it is fixed | 12:42 |
| timeless_w7ip | ali1234 ^ | 12:42 |
| thiago | RELEASED (if it exists) -> bug fix is in a release | 12:42 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/Bug_Life_Cycle_and_Handling | 12:42 |
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| ali1234 | i think the charts are in alphabetical order though, so this is by accident rather than design :) | 12:42 |
| thiago | there's generally one stage before NEW for bugs that haven't been confirmed | 12:42 |
| timeless_w7ip | UNCO | 12:42 |
| thiago | yep | 12:43 |
| timeless_w7ip | stskeeps: please file a bug | 12:43 |
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| timeless_w7ip | that isn't linked from bugs.meego.com's lifecycle page | 12:43 |
| timeless_w7ip | i'd file it, but i don't know my password :( | 12:43 |
| Stskeeps | not sure we have UNCO in meego.com | 12:43 |
| timeless_w7ip | the page claims we do | 12:43 |
| Stskeeps | it does? | 12:44 |
| CosmoHill | timeless_w7ip: Password123! | 12:44 |
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| timeless_w7ip | stskeeps: yes, click my link | 12:44 |
| timeless_w7ip | and it's been modified to list released + waiting for upstream which are nonstandard | 12:44 |
| Stskeeps | timeless_w7ip: poke andre or iekku | 12:44 |
| timeless_w7ip | oh, i could use bugzilla's password reset feature | 12:44 |
| timeless_w7ip | but i'm lazy | 12:44 |
| timeless_w7ip | the only computer which knows my password is my dead mac | 12:45 |
| Stskeeps | so i am | 12:45 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:45 |
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| timeless_w7ip | itym 'so am i' | 12:45 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, sorry, learning polish screws up my language.. | 12:45 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:45 |
| CosmoHill | timeless_w7ip: if it's intel, you can remove the hard drive, plug it into another Intel mac and boot from it | 12:45 |
| CosmoHill | you should be able to do it with a USB caddy, you just hold down ALT when booting | 12:46 |
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| timeless_w7ip | cosmohill: i copied the keychain to another box | 12:49 |
| timeless_w7ip | and finally pulled it down to my g5 | 12:49 |
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| CosmoHill | ah cool | 12:50 |
| CosmoHill | I Rysnc my home directory with my server so if anything happens to my mac I can restore to a new mac | 12:50 |
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| timeless_w7ip | and then it took me 5 or so attempts to unlock the keychain.. | 12:52 |
| timeless_w7ip | right, so anyone here do theme work? | 12:52 |
| timeless_w7ip | mxr.meego.com would like to have a meegon | 12:53 |
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| CosmoHill | I thought texrat did the meegons | 12:54 |
| * timeless_w7ip eyes http://developer.meego.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/sh_triple//sites/default/files/guide/list/image/tools_0.png | 12:55 | |
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| CosmoHill | now I need a password | 12:56 |
| Bostik | head -c6 /dev/urandom | base64 ? | 12:57 |
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| CosmoHill | Bostik: I'll have to use that some time, but I meant to get into the site timeless_w7ip linked to | 12:57 |
| ali1234 | CosmoHill: meego/developer | 12:58 |
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| lardman | hmm, my mic endless waiting problem was a lack of an <<EOF where I was trying to add a file to the fs | 12:58 |
| CosmoHill | damn, I tried that combo backwards | 12:58 |
| timeless_w7ip | cosmohill: i'd bet you could lop off 'developer' and get the file | 12:58 |
| CosmoHill | took me a while to work out that the meego was facing away from me and that it was a shelf, not his head | 12:59 |
| timeless_w7ip | hrm, nope | 12:59 |
| ali1234 | i think it's a spirit level? | 12:59 |
| timeless_w7ip | ali: i prefer 'bubble level', but it only has 1, i'm used to 3 | 13:01 |
| * timeless_w7ip is used to Carpenter's level | 13:01 | |
| ali1234 | spirit level = UK term i think | 13:01 |
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| * timeless_w7ip grumps | 13:04 | |
| timeless_w7ip | anyone know where the images live? | 13:04 |
| * timeless_w7ip wants to browse them | 13:04 | |
| lcuk | timeless_w7ip, http://download.meego.com/testing-daily/builds/trunk/ | 13:05 |
| timeless_w7ip | lcuk: not .iso image, .png image | 13:05 |
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| lcuk | then, nope IDK where | 13:06 |
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| timeless_w7ip | ok, mxr.meego.com temporarily has a bit of branding | 13:14 |
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| timeless_w7ip | the branding and stuff will flicker for a bit while i fold it around | 13:15 |
| iekku | hi timeless_w7ip | 13:16 |
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| CosmoHill | bollocks | 13:23 |
| CosmoHill | well there goes my DVD drive :( | 13:23 |
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| CosmoHill | I'll trade you coffee for disk space | 14:29 |
| CosmoHill | or the left side wing mirror for a mk4 golf | 14:29 |
| slaine | lol | 14:29 |
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| timeless_office | so... i need a meegon :) | 14:56 |
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| timeless_office | has anyone here seen a construction worker /contractor meegon? | 14:56 |
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| timeless_office | http://wiki.meego.com/File:Meegon-fr.svg <- Error creating thumbnail: libgomp: Thread creation failed: Resource temporarily unavailable ?? | 14:58 |
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| CosmoHill | whoever told me to install exiftools, thank you :) | 15:26 |
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| mikhas | I only understand core and platform ;-) | 15:32 |
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| CosmoHill | could it be the stuff between the core and UX? | 15:32 |
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| CosmoHill | like medic codecs for example | 15:33 |
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| CosmoHill | interesting, I'm getting blocked on youtube from viewing videos in my own country | 15:42 |
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| timeless_office | lcuk: i've got a meegon! mxr.meego.com :) | 15:56 |
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| lcuk | timeless_office, thats a cool meegon | 15:57 |
| timeless_office | thanks! | 15:57 |
| lcuk | and he links to the tools page as well :) | 15:58 |
| lcuk | double bonus | 15:58 |
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| timeless_office | i suspect the colors aren't quite right, if someone wants to recolor him for me, i'll gladly integrate | 16:00 |
| timeless_office | (credit can be given or lost, at the contributor's discretion) | 16:00 |
| timeless_office | he's an svg | 16:00 |
| timeless_office | fwiw, he came from midmeegon.svg | 16:00 |
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| timeless_office | i think he might be a bit too tall, opinions? | 16:01 |
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| gabrbedd | timeless_office: The MeeGo Compliance specification says that all meegoans shall have a width:height ratio between 1:2.35786 and 1:38884. | 16:02 |
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| timeless_office | um, i meant in pixels | 16:04 |
| timeless_office | but please feel free to check him against any specs | 16:04 |
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| lcuk | gabrbedd, so, they have an ideal BMI? | 16:06 |
| timeless_office | https://github.com/nemein/MeeGo/blob/master/images/icons/midmeegon.png <- is the related original (as a png, the svg is in a sibling directory) | 16:06 |
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| gabrbedd | :-) | 16:07 |
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| help | hello | 16:16 |
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| Guest5392 | how to check what wireless I have on meego | 16:17 |
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| Dijit | what do you mean wireless? | 16:18 |
| Dijit | you mean scanning for access points? | 16:18 |
| Dijit | or, what card you have? | 16:18 |
| Dijit | or what it's called? | 16:19 |
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| Dijit | or... what? | 16:19 |
| andylou | hello everyone | 16:19 |
| Dijit | o | 16:19 |
| Dijit | o/ | 16:19 |
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| andylou | hello | 16:20 |
| andylou | I need help here | 16:20 |
| andylou | how to check what hardware i have on meego | 16:20 |
| andylou | i mean my wireless | 16:20 |
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| andylou | on lsmod. it show i got rt2860sta | 16:22 |
| andylou | but then it is not connect, can someone help pls | 16:22 |
| timeless_office | lcuk: so, i've given mxr.meego.com its own favicon | 16:22 |
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| andylou | anyone can help with RT2860sta or RT3090 wireless setup on Meego...please | 16:24 |
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| Dijit | what's the output of "ifconfig" and "iwconfig" | 16:26 |
| CosmoHill | oh com'mon, that's the second DVD drive to fail today | 16:28 |
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| Venemo | what is the Qt Creator ifdef for MeeGo? | 16:32 |
| wmat | andylou: see this fixed bug -> https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13194 | 16:32 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug 13194 nor, Medium, 1.1, ying.an.deng, VERI FIXED, RaLink RT3090 Wireless does not work | 16:32 |
| gabrbedd | wmat: andylou is gone, but that helps *me*. Thanks! | 16:35 |
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| wmat | gabrbedd: great! | 16:39 |
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| lcuk | thanks to whoever just phoned my houseline | 16:55 |
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| * lcuk just nearly fell down stairs getting it | 16:55 | |
| mihero_ | most likely just a salesman | 16:55 |
| qgil | lcuk: you just lost a million pounds | 16:56 |
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| lcuk | qgil, I am sure they will call back. | 16:57 |
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| RST38h | lcuk: you mean, to make yu really fall down the stairs? | 16:57 |
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| Venemo | could anyone please tell me the Qt #ifdef for MeeGo? | 17:19 |
| gabrbedd | Venemo: you mean, a compile-time #ifdef to determine that you're compiling for MeeGo? | 17:20 |
| Jartza | Q_WS_MEEGO ? | 17:20 |
| Venemo | gabrbedd: correct | 17:20 |
| CosmoHill | Venemo: search the logs, it was meantioned not to long ago | 17:20 |
| Venemo | gabrbedd: also, the section for .pro files | 17:20 |
| Jartza | I'm pretty sure it is Q_WS_MEEGO | 17:20 |
| Venemo | Jartza: and what is the .pro file section name? | 17:21 |
| Jartza | I don't remember | 17:21 |
| Venemo | Jartza: meego { } ? | 17:21 |
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| gabrbedd | I thought the policy was that there is no Q_WS_MEEGO and that there would never be one. It's Q_WS_X11. Did this change? | 17:22 |
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| Jartza | hmm | 17:25 |
| Jartza | I can't quite check now | 17:25 |
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| gabrbedd | I remember a ML post from thiago several months ago saying that Q_WS_MAEMO was a hack and a mistake and it will not be repeated on MeeGo. I think that was perhaps on meego-dev ML. | 17:27 |
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| gabrbedd | ...but, things like this seem to change on MeeGo without any mention on meego-dev. | 17:27 |
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| Venemo | gabrbedd: this is bad news :( | 17:31 |
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| Venemo | thiago: is this true? | 17:32 |
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| thiago | what? | 17:32 |
| thiago | yes, there's no #define for MeeGo | 17:32 |
| Venemo | crap | 17:32 |
| thiago | MeeGo is a standard Linux with X11 | 17:32 |
| Venemo | why not? | 17:32 |
| Venemo | well, I want my app to appear differently on mobile devices and desktop, and I use #ifdef to distinguish | 17:33 |
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| thiago | so your app looks the same on a 3" handset and a 30" TV? | 17:33 |
| Mek | you can't know at compile time what meeg UX is running your app, and thus not if it is a mobile device | 17:33 |
| Venemo | thiago: no, because I #ifdeffed the differences | 17:33 |
| thiago | and the same as a 10" netbook but different from a 14" laptop? | 17:33 |
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| thiago | no, you want a form-factor API | 17:34 |
| thiago | that's not a compile-time #define | 17:34 |
| Venemo | thiago: is there one? | 17:34 |
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| Venemo | thiago: formfactor API would be good enough for me. is there such an API? | 17:34 |
| thiago | the best is the System Information Mobility API | 17:35 |
| thiago | we're missing the rest because we've been focused on one single form-factor | 17:35 |
| Venemo | thiago: that doesn't have form factor... | 17:35 |
| thiago | I know, but it's the closest | 17:35 |
| Venemo | okay thiago | 17:35 |
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| Venemo | please tell me then how to differentiate 3" from 10" | 17:36 |
| thiago | if you have different builds anyway, then you can set your own #define | 17:36 |
| thiago | QX11Info has the display size, I think | 17:36 |
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| Venemo | thiago: I can't find such a method in it | 17:38 |
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| thiago | let me find it | 17:38 |
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| Venemo | http://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/qx11info.html | 17:39 |
| Venemo | which method is it? | 17:39 |
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| Mek | Venemo: appDpiX/Y in combination with QDesktopWidget to get the pixel size? | 17:39 |
| thiago | I think you can multiply the DPI by the geometry (http://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/qdesktopwidget.html) | 17:39 |
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| Venemo | thiago: how reliable is the DPI setting? | 17:41 |
| thiago | depends on the system | 17:41 |
| Mek | maemo at least lies about the dpi | 17:41 |
| thiago | some systems lie about the DPI | 17:41 |
| Venemo | great | 17:41 |
| thiago | they make the DPI lie by telling the system that the screen is actually of a different size | 17:41 |
| Venemo | so, there is no reliable way to tell, neither an ifdef I could use. | 17:42 |
| Venemo | just great. | 17:42 |
| gabrbedd | #ifdefs lie, too | 17:43 |
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| Venemo | gabrbedd: how so? | 17:43 |
| thiago | you can install an application meant for a device on another | 17:43 |
| gabrbedd | If I take your MeeGo-handset-built #ifdef'd package and run it on a desktop... it won't adapt, will it? | 17:44 |
| berndhs | Venemo: say someone does ssh into your system, your ifdefs dont know about that display | 17:44 |
| Venemo | great. | 17:44 |
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| Venemo | so in your opinion, what's the solution then? | 17:44 |
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| Venemo | I want to display a different UI for mobile and desktop - how can I achieve it in Qt? | 17:47 |
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| gabrbedd | If you want to support different compile-time configurations (Mobile|Desktop) -- it's easy to create your own #define. | 17:47 |
| Mek | decouple UI from engine, and create seperate applications for mobile and desktop, and then let the user decide which one to run? | 17:48 |
| gabrbedd | If you want to support run-time configurations, try to auto-detect it but allow either a command-line switch to override it... or have the config. as a user setting. | 17:48 |
| gabrbedd | Command-line switches can be done in the .desktop file and are transparent to the user. | 17:48 |
| Venemo | okay, gabrbedd's last idea is the best so far. | 17:49 |
| berndhs | I think its worse, the display is not always the one attached to the system you're running on | 17:49 |
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| lcuk | Venemo, but Mek gave the real mechanism for actually doing it, n-tier development, decouple ui from logic | 17:49 |
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| Venemo | berndhs: "have the config. as a user setting." | 17:50 |
| Venemo | lcuk: UI is decoupled from the logic. | 17:50 |
| berndhs | Venemo: right, the config is on the system you run on | 17:50 |
| lcuk | well we know that | 17:50 |
| Venemo | berndhs: so if you use it from SSH, you can set it from the settings dialog. | 17:50 |
| berndhs | the display could be on a different system, X has supported that for 25 years | 17:50 |
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| Venemo | berndhs: in this case, you can go to settings and enable "mobile mode" | 17:51 |
| berndhs | yes if your settings dialog is tolerant enough of unkown displays | 17:51 |
| Venemo | berndhs: it should be. | 17:52 |
| gabrbedd | berndhs: C'mon... let's not confuse things with X-forwarding. That's for people who already know what they're doing. | 17:52 |
| berndhs | point is, you need both UIs in the application, switch mroe or less dynamically | 17:52 |
| Venemo | berndhs: yeah. | 17:52 |
| gabrbedd | berndhs: But yes, I've run into several apps that don't do configs right because they view the X console as a singleton... | 17:53 |
| gabrbedd | berndhs: and won't allow more than one app (or config) on the same display... even though they're being run on different computers. | 17:53 |
| berndhs | right | 17:53 |
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| Venemo | berndhs: in either way, it is unlikely that the target users of my app would use it this way often. but I'll make it configurable for GUI. | 17:55 |
| Venemo | from* GUI | 17:55 |
| berndhs | sure it depends on what the app does | 17:55 |
| Venemo | it is a jigsaw puzzle app | 17:55 |
| berndhs | ah | 17:55 |
| berndhs | its a good test case for general cases though | 17:57 |
| Venemo | what do you mean? | 17:57 |
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| berndhs | well, the UI on the wrong screen size will look bad, not it doesnt completely break the app | 17:58 |
| berndhs | some app that has 257 buttons on a desktop is not functional at all on a phone display | 17:58 |
| Venemo | berndhs: it doesn't look really bad. actually, Qt handles the differences in a nice way. the 5 buttons even appear right on small screens. | 17:59 |
| berndhs | right, I'm saying the differences are not insurmountable, but visible | 18:00 |
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| Venemo | berndhs: you're correct | 18:00 |
| Venemo | berndhs: only some minimal behaviourial differences are needed, for example to give more screen space to the user in mobiles and such. | 18:00 |
| berndhs | so the different UIs are probably not drastically different | 18:00 |
| berndhs | while for the 257 buttons app, you would need a different strategy | 18:00 |
| Venemo | berndhs: you can try it if you want :) http://gitorious.org/colorful-apps/puzzle-master | 18:00 |
| Venemo | berndhs: according to lcuk, it works on MeeGo nicely :) | 18:01 |
| berndhs | hmm gitorious hangs up unexpectedly, network hates me | 18:03 |
| Venemo | worksforme | 18:04 |
| berndhs | usually works for me too, jsut not today | 18:05 |
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| shahinghazinouri | Does anyone here have experience setting up Hermes for a local OBS? | 19:00 |
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| CosmoHill | probably shouldn't blindly throw my phone over my sholder | 19:17 |
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| berndhs | CosmoHill: hit innocent bystander ? | 19:18 |
| CosmoHill | they're not innocent if they're in my bedroom | 19:18 |
| berndhs | yeah, you should aim, not throw blindly | 19:18 |
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| mikhas | DawnFoster1, could you please check https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13696 again? | 20:07 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug 13696 nor, Undecided, ---, dawn.m.foster, NEW, Request for dedicated meego-inputmethods ML | 20:07 |
| DawnFoster1 | mikhas: I'll take a look it in a few min | 20:08 |
| DawnFoster1 | thanks for pinging me | 20:08 |
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| Stskeeps | 'lo DawnFoster1 :) | 20:09 |
| DawnFoster1 | hey Stskeeps | 20:09 |
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| mikhas | thanks | 20:10 |
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| Stskeeps | really crazy times we're living in right now | 20:32 |
| Stskeeps | (wrt meego) | 20:33 |
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| Jartza | http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Nokia-and-open-source-a-trial-by-fire-1194928.html | 20:38 |
| gabrbedd | Stskeeps: Crap. Now what did I miss? :-p | 20:38 |
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| Stskeeps | gabrbedd: nah, nothing new, but it is erm, interesting when half of TSG resigns from company position (and also meego.com TSG?), so i wonder where things will end up | 20:39 |
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| gabrbedd | Stskeeps: Really? Who resigned? Is there a news release somewhere? | 20:41 |
| Stskeeps | gabrbedd: http://twitter.com/valhalla101 | 20:41 |
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| mikhas | I love the "twitter for iPhone" | 20:43 |
| Stskeeps | mikhas: competitor study | 20:43 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:43 |
| mikhas | of course | 20:44 |
| mikhas | I do that all the time! | 20:44 |
| TomaszD | Stskeeps, I'm not seeing any n900 kernel adaptation updates lately, how's the touchscreen work going, know anything? | 20:44 |
| TomaszD | hell, btw | 20:44 |
| Stskeeps | TomaszD: we usually push fixes when we have them - there's been a long long discussion on irc and in bug report | 20:44 |
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| TomaszD | Stskeeps, could you link me to the bug report? | 20:45 |
| Stskeeps | TomaszD: bug 13283 | 20:45 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13283 maj, High, ---, kalle.jokiniemi, RESO FIXED, [TRUNK:TESTING] Wrong touch behaviour while trying to navigate through the items in application grid | 20:45 |
| TomaszD | exploring meego's bugzilla is... difficult | 20:45 |
| TomaszD | thanks | 20:45 |
| Stskeeps | it's a really bizarre bug :) | 20:46 |
| TomaszD | :) | 20:47 |
| TomaszD | what about the wifi ui weirdness Stskeeps ? | 20:47 |
| TomaszD | that has a bug too? | 20:47 |
| TomaszD | *report | 20:47 |
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| Stskeeps | yes | 20:49 |
| TomaszD | would be so kind as to share its number? | 20:49 |
| * Myrtti snatches a cinnamon bun from Stskeeps | 20:49 | |
| TomaszD | hey, that bun belongs to him | 20:49 |
| Myrtti | OM NOM NOM | 20:50 |
| TomaszD | it was his favourite bun | 20:50 |
| TomaszD | the last one he had | 20:50 |
| Myrtti | see, he still has his | 20:50 |
| Myrtti | sooooo... he must have an infinite source | 20:50 |
| gabrbedd | Stskeeps: :-( Thanks for the link. | 20:50 |
| TomaszD | probably in his secure office | 20:50 |
| Stskeeps | bug 13474 and bug 11261 | 20:50 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13474 maj, High, 1.1.90.3, ext-gabor.2.juhasz, REOP, The control panel (duicontrolpanel) cannot be opened from application menu | 20:50 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11261 cri, High, ---, brian.j.jones, NEW, Wifi/Bluetooth cannot be set [ON] in control panel. | 20:51 |
| Stskeeps | i think | 20:51 |
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| TomaszD | thanks | 20:55 |
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| LolikZabijaka | Ͼinam | 21:07 |
| Stskeeps | those letters aren't part of the polish alphabet, i believe :) | 21:07 |
| Stskeeps | or my iconv is shot | 21:07 |
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| ar | Stskeeps: i nic się nie chwalisz, że mówisz po polsku? ;) | 21:11 |
| Stskeeps | ar: nie mowię po polsku ;) | 21:12 |
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| ar | Stskeeps: not at all? | 21:12 |
| Stskeeps | (am a foreigner living in this country and i'm fairly sure æ isn't part of polish..) | 21:12 |
| Stskeeps | ar: some. i take classes | 21:12 |
| ar | well, it isn't | 21:13 |
| ar | it's part of latin, i guess | 21:13 |
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| thiago_home | æ is part of Norwegian and Danish | 21:20 |
| thiago_home | I don't remember if it's used in Icelandic too | 21:20 |
| ngharo | anyone know how to change virtual term hotkeys? for instance ALT+LEFT_ARROW flips me to prev VT in 1.1 netbook. This is kind of annoying when browsing the web | 21:25 |
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| ngharo | would i be best using xmodmap or something to rebind them? | 21:25 |
| Stskeeps | isn't there a nozap or something like that xorg conf option can be used? | 21:26 |
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| ngharo | Stskeeps: I'll try that on my lunch break :) | 21:28 |
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| ngharo | at first glance it seems like that'll only prevent ctrl+alt+backspace from killin x | 21:28 |
| ngharo | ohhh, that lead me to the solution me thinks | 21:29 |
| ngharo | DontVTSwitch in xorg conf | 21:29 |
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| CosmoHill | bless you | 21:42 |
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| gabrbedd | -*- windows pc starts playing "Love Me Tender" | 23:17 |
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| lcukn900 | gabrbedd lol, it should be doing something like that. damn thing won't open xchat. | 23:22 |
| lcukn900 | I may be replacing it this weekend with a mac though so not to bothereed | 23:22 |
| gabrbedd | lcukn900: yeah, saw your tweet(s) | 23:23 |
| gabrbedd | lcukn900: Did you get any answers on the touch stuff? | 23:24 |
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| lcukn900 | gabrbedd, yeah like most legacy computers the 'normal' macs are non touch, its only the ipad etc that is | 23:25 |
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| lcukn900 | I did not check whether xcode was available for ipad | 23:26 |
| gabrbedd | lcukn900: desktop or notebook? | 23:26 |
| lcukn900 | well since it is my desktop that is poorly I should replace that | 23:27 |
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| gabrbedd | lcukn900: can´t you add a monitor with touch? | 23:28 |
| lcukn900 | yeah but that would not help | 23:29 |
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| lcukn900 | gabrdebb i have my maemo and meego surfaces and the ideapad will not move from my side and n900 stays in my pocket | 23:30 |
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| lcukn900 | i just want to poke around xcode to see how to do some stuff | 23:31 |
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| javispedro | omg lcukn900 getting a mac, the end is near :) | 23:36 |
| CosmoHill | lcukn900: oo | 23:37 |
| lcukn900 | javispedro, thinking about it. it would be good to actually run some benchmarks of my code on actual hardware | 23:37 |
| CosmoHill | what mac? | 23:37 |
| lcukn900 | i was hoping someone would have put the linux on iphone with meego so we could look directly | 23:38 |
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| lcukn900 | cosmohill, idk but I need a new desktop | 23:38 |
| CosmoHill | I say ignore the mac mini | 23:39 |
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| lcukn900 | it never entered my head lol | 23:39 |
| CosmoHill | good | 23:39 |
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| lcukn900 | cosmohill, which do you have? | 23:40 |
| CosmoHill | I have a 2005 powerbook G4 | 23:40 |
| CosmoHill | super drive (DVD-RW was a selling point back then) | 23:41 |
| javispedro | no, bad! buy a Leemote Yeelooon like Richard Stallman! | 23:41 |
| lcukn900 | i would rather have a meego desktop | 23:41 |
| CosmoHill | lcukn900: do you buy off the shelf or build your own? | 23:41 |
| lcukn900 | cosmohill i might have built my own n the past but I am far too old and my fingers are too tired nowadays to faff. | 23:42 |
| CosmoHill | if you go to PC world, make sure you go in school time | 23:42 |
| lcukn900 | I struggled to change the powersupply on this desktop a few weeks ago | 23:43 |
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| CosmoHill | I ended up opening a computer on thursday and showing a lecturer and 5 students the difference between a hard disk and hard disk controller | 23:44 |
| CosmoHill | "no that's not the chip, the chip is under it, it gets hot, that;s why it's under it" | 23:45 |
| lcukn900 | lol oh i understand the components, pretty much down to tracing the signals through the board | 23:45 |
| lcukn900 | i just keep cutting my fingers whenever i try to change stuff | 23:45 |
| CosmoHill | most of the time I think "you're in my class / year ffs, how do you not know this" | 23:46 |
| lcukn900 | heh yeah when I was at college it was the same | 23:46 |
| CosmoHill | some of them are asking me to install software tho! | 23:46 |
| lcukn900 | cosmohill, if the perks are right you should agree! | 23:47 |
| * CosmoHill giggles | 23:47 | |
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| lcukn900 | many a computer runs on the power of fluttered eyelashes and a bit of cleavage | 23:47 |
| RST38h | lcuk: transauricular cartilage != computer | 23:48 |
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| lcukn900 | lolwhat? | 23:52 |
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| CosmoHill | almost bought a t-shirt last year that read "no I will not fix your computer" | 23:52 |
| * npm successfully builds http://mixxxblog.blogspot.com/2011/02/mixxx-190-released.html on MeeGo 1.2 netbook (using "meegolem" hack) | 23:52 | |
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| warg | Which was my point | 23:58 |
| warg | wrong chan... grr | 23:58 |
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