IRC log of #meego for Sunday, 2011-02-20

CosmoHillthe nokia 6220c is actually fairly usable even without the two buttons at the top of the keypad00:00
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CosmoHillcyas03:25
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rickabilliedoes Meego work on older laptops (ie non-x64)?04:17
rickabillie(the live image works fine on my GF's newer laptop, but doesn't get past the boot selection page on my older (Dell inspiton m600)one)04:19
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Stskeepsmorn RST38h09:43
RST38hMoo, Stskeeps09:43
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djszapiHow can I build an rpm package for meego about my cmake based KDE project in the easiest manner ? (locally, without OBS if that is possible).11:02
djszapi(like with cpack for Maemo5 - deb package previously).11:02
djszapiThe target is my N900 - arm.11:03
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sjokkisdjszapi: osc11:09
sjokkisdjszapi: or just convert your deb, i guess11:09
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djszapisjokkis: Server returned an error: HTTP Error 401: basic auth failed -> when I try to follow this first step: http://wiki.meego.com/Build_Infrastructure/Packagers_Developers/CLI_Part_1#Running_OSC_the_first_time11:32
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Cptn_Sandwichhello11:43
Cptn_Sandwichis it possible to install meego to a usb drive and then switch off the hd completely for energy savings?11:44
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djszapiI have read pro/cont about the battery charging option via the laptop usb on the internet in case of N900. Can it be charged properly from the host PC over the usb connection ? How could I check this from cli for instance to make sure ?11:58
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obit_swedenHave a little gpl license question. A nice thing would be to have zfs  capability in meego . This could be achieved by compiling and make the KQ Infotech zfs loadable kernel module available as a package for meego. But will this violate GPL or not ?12:24
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obit_swedenOr if a manufacture would like to include ZFS in a product based on meego where he preload the ZFS  loadable kernel module , will that violate GPL ?12:27
Stskeepsobit_sweden: possibly, but there are many interpretations12:28
obit_swedenStskeeps: Yes seems like this is a tricky question to get a 'full' answer.12:29
achipaobit_sweden: is this about http://zfsonlinux.org/faq.html#WhatAboutTheLicensingIssue ?12:29
obit_swedenachipa: yes that's what I'm talking about. Problem is that some people thinks it's ok to mix CDDL with gpl as long as you don't make it a part of the kernel12:30
obit_swedenand some don't12:30
obit_swedenAnd what if I make it a part of my product ? it's still a loadable kernel module and thereby not a part of the kernel itself12:31
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obit_swedenbut if I make it a part of a 'ready' product it's already preloaded in the kernel and what defines a loadable kernel module ?12:33
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vgrade1morning13:33
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Jaffalcuk: Your bday today?13:50
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lcukyessir13:50
lcukI am heading to the Manchester Museum of Science and tech too :)13:50
pixelgeekHappy Birthday lcuk!13:51
CosmoHillhappy birthday lcuk :D13:53
iekkulcuk, happy birthday!13:53
Jaffalcuk: Cool place13:53
JaffalcukL Happy birthday (and to lbt too)13:53
CosmoHillis it lbt's birthday too?13:54
JaffaAccording to my N900 calendar which'll've got it from FB13:54
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lcuk:D thx13:59
lcukand Happy Birthday lbt too!13:59
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lcukJaffa, did you read Stskeeps' mail about r&d branding?14:20
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beleointel showed some tablets running meego at the mwc14:42
beleoI was wondering where are the source for the meego tablet ux?14:43
beleoI couldn't find them on http://meego.gitorious.org/14:43
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CosmoHillbeleo: http://appdeveloper.intel.com/en-us/sourcecenter14:45
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lcukhaha in the screenshot I added to bug 13516 it shows a bit of the calendar where I used to test building sketchfonts14:48
MeeGoBotBug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13516 nor, Undecided, ---, brian.warner, ASSI, Proposal: Allow MeeGo trademark usage in form of "<X>, a MeeGo R&D project"14:48
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jbos_awayhi there,15:35
jbos_awayi just put some thoughts about the meego-sdk together on www.jeremias-bosch.com15:35
jbos_away:D15:36
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jbos_awaywould love to see comments. I have some Ideas how to improve the thing but well...15:36
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vljhi18:16
vljab: ping18:16
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vljthiago_home: ping too18:19
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CosmoHilllooks like I can get free navigation on my nokia 6220c now where as before I'd of had to pay for it19:23
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berndhsCosmoHill: all right, you can travel the world now19:34
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CosmoHilldammit, I don't want a damn ovi account, I just want the map19:43
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fosstuxHi! How can I help the development of meego core? What programming languages are needed?19:52
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Stskeepsfosstux: there's a lot of different ones :)19:53
fosstuxokay.19:53
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Stskeepsfosstux: best skill is to learn packaging, really :) and shell script/C/C++/Qt/QML19:54
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CosmoHillanyone know why I'm downloading 72MB for 3 fixes on the ovi suite?19:58
lcukbecause they are big fixes!20:00
iekkusmall fixes in the big package?20:01
lcukanti-compression technology20:01
CosmoHillinstead of patching my current install it wants the whole new thing20:02
CosmoHillI better have free navigation by the end of all this20:03
lcukand a Hannah Montana screensaver.20:04
CosmoHilla what?20:04
lcuko_O a really really old but awesome pisstake on old ovi experience http://thereallymobileproject.com/2009/10/shopping-at-the-ovi-store/20:05
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MindWarperhas everybody joined #reactOS ?20:12
Stskeepswhat does that matter here? P20:12
javispedroyes!20:12
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javispedro(err... no ;) )20:13
lcukMindWarper, We asked the people in #reactOS before and they said they were installing #MeeGo instead20:13
lcukif you don't believe me, ask them yourself20:13
CosmoHillinteresting, the nokia installer is requesting permission to install20:14
CosmoHill"program name: ${sign.name}"20:14
berndhsbut be sure to ask every one of them, there must be billions and billions20:14
lcukCosmoHill, real signature needed?20:14
lcuk. o O ( keysigning would indeed be different if it needed handwritten signature )20:15
CosmoHillthe program name should be "Ovi Suite"20:15
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CosmoHillI have a feeling the ovi suite is being a cockend20:26
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CosmoHill"something's wrong, try removing and reinstalling the ovi suite"20:37
CosmoHillget knotted!20:37
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VLJab: hi21:08
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Railroadmasterhello21:25
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Railroadmasteranyone their?21:27
Stskeepsevening21:27
Railroadmasterto you to21:27
lpottermorning21:27
Railroadmasterfor me its about noon21:27
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Railroadmasterdid anyone here about MeeGo being ported to the Archos 5 http://www.openaos.org/archives/66621:29
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Railroadmasterk21:31
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Jaffalcuk: No, where did he send it?21:41
Jaffalcuk: I've now seen bug 1351521:42
Stskeepsnot an email, it's on bugzilla21:42
MeeGoBotBug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13515 nor, Undecided, ---, fathi.boudra, NEW, QtWebkit rendering slow probably due to no gl21:42
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Jaffas/13515/13516/21:43
infobotJaffa meant: lcuk: I've now seen bug 1351621:43
MeeGoBotBug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13516 nor, Undecided, ---, brian.warner, ASSI, Proposal: Allow MeeGo trademark usage in form of "<X>, a MeeGo R&D project"21:43
Stskeepsyeah, that one21:43
Stskeepsi think it's a pretty nice way to deal with a lot of issues21:43
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JaffaStskeeps: Including Tablet UX, perhapsd ;-)21:51
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JaffaGah, laggy Mobile Hotspot connection21:56
henahaha21:56
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VLJhi22:07
VLJab: ping22:07
VLJRST38h: ping too22:07
Aranelis there any way to speed up VNC Server on N900? It's very slow and painful to use :|22:10
thiago_homeyes22:11
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Araneloops wrong channel :)22:24
Aranelthiago_home: anyway, how? :)22:24
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thiago_homemaemo5 or meego?22:24
Aranelmaemo522:24
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thiago_homeinstall the vnc server22:25
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Aranelthiago_home: x11vnc isn't it? already installed.22:26
thiago_homenow run it22:26
Aranelrunning22:27
Aranelit's very slow, It feels like 2 frames per second and I'm on a LAN connection.22:28
Stskeepswell, that's vnc for you..22:28
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Aranelcan't I make it perform better? by a dirty hack? howto page? something I missed?22:30
VLJAranel: reduce resolution ?22:31
AranelVLJ: would Maemo perform good on other resolutions?22:32
VLJno idea22:32
AranelVLJ: and how can I try that? :)22:32
thiago_homeAranel: wrong channel to ask...22:32
VLJbut on desktop computer, reducing resolution helps22:32
timophread the man page :)22:32
thiago_homeVLJ: pong btw22:32
Aranelyup I know <Aranel> oops wrong channel :) , then you said "yes" and got my attention :P22:32
VLJpong thiago_home22:32
thiago_homeVLJ: no, you pinged me. I'm replying to the ping.22:33
VLJerr yup I had a question22:33
VLJI'm using qt-creator for developpement22:33
VLJin my project, I have a data/exposures/ directory22:33
VLJI'm loading files from this directory22:33
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Araneltimoph: can you point me to one? Should I read the x11vnc manpage or something else?22:33
VLJhowever I have to put the absolute path of the files in my project22:34
VLJbecause qt-creator does not build project in place, but in a -build directory22:34
timophuse 'man -k vnc' to search22:34
VLJis there a way to "cheat" qt-creator so that it runs the program with pwd set to the source path ?22:35
thiago_homeVLJ: change the path in which qt-creator builds your project in22:35
thiago_homeVLJ: see the Projects page22:35
VLJok22:35
VLJis it safe to build in the same directory than src directory ?22:35
thiago_homeyour choice22:36
thiago_homeI don't do that for complex projects22:36
VLJthiago_home: how do you load various resources in an "elegant" way in your projects ?22:36
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thiago_homeeither put them in Qt resources, or find them at the install dir22:38
VLJok22:39
ShadowJKx11vnc is slow even on desktop22:39
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r4co0nHey guys, I am trying to get my microphone to work with MeeGo on an Asus Eee PC 901. Couldnt find anything useful when googling, anyone of you got an idea what I could do next?23:57

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