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| lcuk | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_soup is a wise tale which I remember from fractint days | 00:00 |
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| lcuk | (fractint developers called themselves the stone osup group) | 00:01 |
| lcuk | s/osup/soup/ | 00:01 |
| infobot | lcuk meant: (fractint developers called themselves the stone soup group) | 00:01 |
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| CosmoHill | East is East on More4+1 | 00:03 |
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| RainCT | Uhm... How can I install the handset UI (and touchscreen support, etc.) on a netbook installation? | 00:50 |
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| ali1234 | RainCT: http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Desktop/Changing_Desktops | 00:51 |
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| RainCT | ali1234: thanks | 00:53 |
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| ali1234 | http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Desktop/Changing_Desktops#Get_correct_resolution_on_IdeaPad <- i wonder if this would work for intel tablet ux? anyone tried it? | 00:55 |
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| CosmoHill | hot computer + glass desk = http://farm1.static.flickr.com/1/1104535_3ccd086305.jpg | 00:57 |
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| gabrbedd | no, really, mum. it was calculating fractals! | 01:05 |
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| ali1234 | more like "no really i was compiling meego from scratch" | 01:12 |
| tripzero | ali1234, no, it doesn' apply to the tablet ux | 01:13 |
| tripzero | tablet ux doesn't use meegotouch | 01:14 |
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| RainCT | Meh, this isn't what I was looking for. Does someone know what it is they had installed on the ExoPC? | 01:14 |
| ali1234 | maybe the intel tablet ux? | 01:15 |
| RainCT | Where do I get that? | 01:15 |
| ali1234 | http://appdeveloper.intel.com/en-us/meego-iso-esla | 01:15 |
| RainCT | ah, that's it | 01:16 |
| RainCT | why are there so many different iso's/repos? -.- | 01:16 |
| ali1234 | because meego targets lots of different types of device | 01:16 |
| ali1234 | also the intel stuff is still just a preview, it's not open so i guess it's not a official reference ux yet | 01:17 |
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| ali1234 | but really it's not that complicated, just go to downloads and select device type to get the image | 01:17 |
| ali1234 | the only things you wont find there are vendor customized images with closed stuff in them | 01:18 |
| ali1234 | such as the one you wanted | 01:18 |
| ali1234 | but that's life | 01:18 |
| RainCT | Uhm, is it possible to get the normal meego working good on the tablet? (with touch and stuff) | 01:20 |
| tripzero | define "normal meego stuff" | 01:20 |
| RainCT | the netbook one | 01:20 |
| tripzero | working, possibly. "good", doubtfully | 01:21 |
| RainCT | the intel thing looked nicer for touch but so far I've only heard from others that it works like sh*t | 01:21 |
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| ali1234 | i think it is better than handset | 01:21 |
| tripzero | RainCT, don't listen to others | 01:22 |
| tripzero | ali1234, +1 | 01:22 |
| tripzero | it's much better IMHO than handset | 01:22 |
| ali1234 | still has some nasty bugs though, but then so does handset | 01:22 |
| ali1234 | but i prefer the overall design | 01:22 |
| ali1234 | "i like where it is going" | 01:22 |
| ali1234 | the touchscreen should work in the netbook ux, just that it's not designed for touch so it's a bit tricky to use | 01:23 |
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| ali1234 | but netbook is basically the only ux that is currently suitable for actual use and not just kicking the tyres | 01:24 |
| tripzero | tablet ux isn't too far off | 01:24 |
| tripzero | browser has my biggest complaints right now | 01:25 |
| seanvk | lbt: ping | 01:25 |
| ali1234 | the video player is really bad too, i played the kitten video once and it never worked again | 01:25 |
| tripzero | lol | 01:26 |
| tripzero | really? | 01:26 |
| ali1234 | just crashes when going to the list of videos, every time | 01:26 |
| ali1234 | i can play the kitten video as much as i want, but nothing else | 01:26 |
| ali1234 | maybe i'm doing it wrong | 01:26 |
| tripzero | yup, just reproduced it | 01:26 |
| tripzero | it crashes if I try to play something else | 01:26 |
| tripzero | same for you? | 01:27 |
| ali1234 | well when i run the video player now it comes up with the kitten video | 01:27 |
| ali1234 | if i try to go back to the list it crashes | 01:27 |
| tripzero | starting over seemed to work | 01:27 |
| ali1234 | i assume it crashes, it just disappears with no error | 01:27 |
| tripzero | yeh, that's probably a crash | 01:28 |
| ali1234 | the list is displayed for about 0.1 seconds | 01:28 |
| tripzero | yep | 01:28 |
| jausmus_ | that's a known issue | 01:28 |
| tripzero | you're a known issue | 01:28 |
| jausmus_ | I try to be :) | 01:28 |
| tripzero | it's a feature | 01:29 |
| tripzero | saves memory | 01:29 |
| jausmus_ | lol | 01:29 |
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| CosmoHill | since when did you need an accont for openDNS? | 01:57 |
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| Faither | CosmoHill: you don't? | 02:00 |
| CosmoHill | http://www.samknows.com/broadband/cable/smallworld | 02:01 |
| CosmoHill | god damn fucking firefox | 02:01 |
| CosmoHill | https://www.opendns.com/start/ | 02:01 |
| CosmoHill | makes it look like you need an account to get openDNS but you don't | 02:01 |
| Faither | 208.67.222.222 | 02:01 |
| Faither | 208.67.220.220 | 02:01 |
| Faither | on www.opendns.com | 02:02 |
| CosmoHill | yes, looks a little deceptive | 02:02 |
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| pupnik_ | 23:00 < lcuk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_soup is a wise tale which I remember from fractint days <<< Stskeeps | 02:15 |
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| CosmoHill | berndhs: hehe, you have "bee" in your IPv6 | 02:44 |
| berndhs | dont know how it got there :) | 02:44 |
| CosmoHill | did you leave a window open? | 02:45 |
| berndhs | no my connection crashed | 02:45 |
| CosmoHill | and a bee flew in? | 02:45 |
| berndhs | perhaps | 02:46 |
| berndhs | no, that's just my address | 02:46 |
| berndhs | I can change it if its a big problem :) | 02:46 |
| CosmoHill | no, bee stings just hurt, they don't kill me | 02:47 |
| berndhs | at least ipv6 has room for insects, ipv4 is all bacteria and stuff | 02:47 |
| berndhs | earthquake in Florida, very strange | 02:48 |
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| basiaf | ipv6 has also room for a lot of dead:beef | 02:52 |
| CosmoHill | burgers? | 02:52 |
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| berndhs | yeah, fight the greenhouse gases, eat the cows | 02:56 |
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| CosmoHill | night night | 03:38 |
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| vgrade1 | bug 615 is fixed | 03:41 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=615 enh, Medium, ---, ryan.r.ware, ASSI, Open the access of MeeGo OBS | 03:41 |
| vgrade1 | this will help me learn so much | 03:42 |
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| berndhs | for those who have relatives there, Libya went offline | 04:32 |
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| GAN900 | Florida has earthquakes all the time. | 04:41 |
| GAN900 | Usually they're way out in the Gulf of Mexico and small, though. | 04:41 |
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| lpotter | naaa. they are just NASA farting | 05:09 |
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| pupnik | IControlpad now available for gaming with your cellphone - very cool indie project - http://icontrolpad.com/ http://www.gp2x.de/shop/index.php/cPath/45 | 06:00 |
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| Termana | morning | 07:47 |
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| Termana | Damn it. I think I just sent a LinkedIn invitation to the MeeGo l1on list :\ LinkedIn is such an awkward site | 08:34 |
| TSCHAKeee | congratulations | 08:37 |
| TSCHAKeee | we all hate you now | 08:37 |
| TSCHAKeee | ;) | 08:37 |
| * TSCHAKeee hugs Termana ... kiddin. ;) | 08:37 | |
| Termana | :p | 08:37 |
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| amarsman_nl | I would like to buy a netbook for running meego IVI, does a current hp mini 210 work? it doesn't have the the atom Z530 but the N455 | 10:05 |
| pupnik | does N455 have SSE3? | 10:07 |
| TSCHAKeee | yes, it does. | 10:07 |
| pupnik | then you must check for graphics support | 10:07 |
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| amarsman_nl | I checked SSE3, it does have it | 10:12 |
| Stskeeps | SSSE3 | 10:12 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:12 |
| amarsman_nl | Graphics is Intel GMA 4150 | 10:12 |
| amarsman_nl | s/4150/3150/ | 10:13 |
| infobot | amarsman_nl meant: Graphics is Intel GMA 3150 | 10:13 |
| amarsman_nl | according to the install page it's using VESA, no hw accelerated graphics | 10:13 |
| amarsman_nl | On the Netbook page it states for v1.0 the HP mini 210-1044 is supported, nothing about v1.1. What I can buy now is a HP mini 210-2001sd | 10:15 |
| amarsman_nl | not sure what the differences are | 10:15 |
| amarsman_nl | another option would be a Samsung notebook with a N550 and same graphics | 10:16 |
| amarsman_nl | need to check what the higher price and going from N455 to N550 brings | 10:17 |
| pupnik | http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/711/Intel_Atom_N455_vs_Intel_Atom_N550.html | 10:18 |
| amarsman_nl | the N550 has 2 cores | 10:18 |
| amarsman_nl | both max 2 GB memory | 10:19 |
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| npm | http://nielsmayer.com/meego/netbooktablet/ | 10:36 |
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| * Stskeeps looks | 10:36 | |
| Stskeeps | merged uis? | 10:36 |
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| Stskeeps | lcuk: http://www.noteslate.com/philosophy.htm | 10:38 |
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| timoph | hrrr. -27 | 11:09 |
| Stskeeps | sounds cold | 11:11 |
| * Stskeeps makes note to pack long underwear | 11:11 | |
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| timoph | it is :) | 11:11 |
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| * timoph is mentally preparing for a trip to buy food | 11:11 | |
| * kyb3R same here | 11:12 | |
| Stskeeps | order pizza? | 11:12 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:12 |
| timoph | not a bad idea | 11:12 |
| sandst1 | timoph: naah, just go to pizzaonline.fi :P | 11:14 |
| kyb3R | timoph: did sandst1 sugget you already that we meet at Demola next week to hack with meego-drone stuff? | 11:14 |
| timoph | kyb3R: he did | 11:14 |
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| kyb3R | good | 11:14 |
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| timoph | tueday would work for me. Monday is going to be a long day so not sure if I'll have energy to hack anymore after work | 11:15 |
| kyb3R | timoph: tuesday would be best for me | 11:15 |
| sandst1 | +1 for tuesday then | 11:16 |
| kyb3R | ok, around 5pm? | 11:16 |
| timoph | so tuesday it is? | 11:16 |
| timoph | works for me | 11:16 |
| sandst1 | tuesday 5pm | 11:16 |
| kyb3R | done, tuesday at 5pm at demola | 11:16 |
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| lcuk | Stskeeps, that is nice indeed :) | 11:30 |
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| lcuk | nice article, Making things hard to read 'can boost learning' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-11573666 | 12:07 |
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| RainCT | Where should bug reports for the intel tablet thing go? | 13:32 |
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| pupnik | RainCT: intel | 13:35 |
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| lcuk | RainCT, bugs.meego.com - file them probably in netbook for now, but it might be an idea to also file a bug to request tablet ux categories | 13:46 |
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| bash` | hi all | 13:55 |
| lcuk | \o | 13:55 |
| bash` | if I create a set of PKGBUILDs (ebuilds in Gentoo) to build MeeGo for Arch Linux, can I keep the meego name for the X session or I've to change the name? (like Smeegol for SuSE)? | 13:56 |
| bash` | ps. I don't ship binaries, only PKGBUILDs | 13:56 |
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| Stskeeps | bash`: there is guidelines, sec | 13:57 |
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| Stskeeps | http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/Compliance_primer_1.0 | 13:59 |
| bash` | ok | 13:59 |
| Stskeeps | this is -current policy- and there is policy bugs where clarifications/less harsh policy is being crafted | 14:00 |
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| lcuk | are there any qt/meego/maemo apps for testing responsiveness of touchscreens, so check for misclicks or misswipes and actually come up with a comparative figure | 14:02 |
| lcuk | *to check for | 14:02 |
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| ShadowJK | hm, how would you measure that | 14:08 |
| * ShadowJK is having lots of issues with his new samsung netbook's capacitive touchpad | 14:08 | |
| ShadowJK | would be nice to have metrics | 14:08 |
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| lcuk | ShadowJK, yeah I don't know either | 14:14 |
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| lcuk | but certainly, touchscreen experiences in street use vs lab conditions is different | 14:15 |
| lcuk | it does not help when UI expects lab condition precision | 14:15 |
| ShadowJK | biggest issue is that it's flush with the case, I don't feel where it starts or stops | 14:15 |
| lcuk | ShadowJK, that is device specific (n900) | 14:15 |
| ShadowJK | asus has textured touchpad area and smooth glossy the rest so you can feel where it is | 14:15 |
| lcuk | I wasn't thinking touchpads necessarily | 14:16 |
| lcuk | touchscreens | 14:16 |
| ShadowJK | Yeah I know | 14:16 |
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| ShadowJK | accuracy, precision, sensitivity | 14:18 |
| lcuk | ShadowJK, when I had the n810 | 14:20 |
| lcuk | it never had a perfect ts for finger use | 14:20 |
| lcuk | so all the ui and interactions I thought of tried to account for that | 14:20 |
| lcuk | "imperfect computing" | 14:20 |
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| ShadowJK | the edges and stylus keyboard are finger usable on my N800, but the thumb keyboard is harder to use cause of low sensitivity in the middle of screen :) | 14:21 |
| lcuk | yeah over time it seems they sag in the middle like a cake | 14:22 |
| ShadowJK | N810 is overall less sensitive for me | 14:22 |
| lcuk | yeah my original n810 now has an entire zone in the centre that does not react to finger at all | 14:22 |
| lcuk | but works happily on its stylus | 14:22 |
| ShadowJK | I mostly use N800 with fingers nowadays | 14:23 |
| ShadowJK | except when typing in lots of things in xterm | 14:23 |
| * lcuk still really prefers hardware keyboard | 14:23 | |
| ShadowJK | of course | 14:24 |
| lcuk | to the extend I never saw the n800 or iphone as a computer | 14:24 |
| lcuk | extent | 14:24 |
| ShadowJK | N800 = surf in bed, N810 = alarm clock, weather forecast, music on bedside table :) | 14:24 |
| lcuk | haha | 14:24 |
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| lcuk | ShadowJK, setting the alarm on the n810 was a bit bob | 14:25 |
| lcuk | n900 got it much better :) | 14:25 |
| ShadowJK | well | 14:25 |
| * lcuk adores the unlimited alarm feature :) | 14:25 | |
| ShadowJK | oh you mean snooze forever? | 14:26 |
| lcuk | no, once you set an alarm time | 14:26 |
| lcuk | you can set more and more | 14:26 |
| ShadowJK | one time I hit snooze for 9 hours before getting up | 14:26 |
| lcuk | and activate and deactivate at will | 14:26 |
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| ShadowJK | My Nokia E75 replaces "Snooze" with "Stop" after an hour or so | 14:27 |
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| lcuk | lol | 14:27 |
| * ShadowJK discovered it the unpleasant way :P | 14:27 | |
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| trumee | are there any plans of incorporating MythTv in meego? | 14:49 |
| pupnik | what's that | 14:50 |
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| trumee | pupnik, pvr | 14:50 |
| niala1 | a xbmc like | 14:50 |
| pupnik | oh yes | 14:50 |
| * trumee has never used xbmc but loves MythTV | 14:51 | |
| trumee | pupnik, http://www.mythtv.org/ | 14:51 |
| pupnik | i tried getting it working once - hated the setup | 14:51 |
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| trumee | It will be ubercool to use mythtv on a tablet | 14:52 |
| pupnik | what - exactly - do you want to do? | 14:52 |
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| trumee | pupnik, watch LiveTv on a meego device | 14:52 |
| pupnik | from what source? | 14:53 |
| trumee | pupnik, streamed from my mythtv backend | 14:53 |
| pupnik | oh you mean a client | 14:53 |
| trumee | pupnik, yes or a frontend | 14:53 |
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| pupnik | you could have been talking about a server for a settop box | 14:53 |
| pupnik | on the n900 i use knots client to watch movies, streamed/captured video | 14:54 |
| pupnik | but that doesn't do the pvr | 14:54 |
| trumee | pupnik, yes i do use knots as well with mythtv. but it cannot do livetv | 14:54 |
| niala1 | readme say he need libmp3lame so you must start with this | 14:54 |
| niala1 | i don't know about XMLTV | 14:55 |
| trumee | niala1, XMLTV is not really required on the frontend | 14:56 |
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| trumee | niala1, it is only needed at the backend | 14:56 |
| pupnik | is there a QT mythtv frontend? | 14:56 |
| trumee | niala1, yes. Mythtv is coded in Qt | 14:56 |
| trumee | pupnik, No other frontend except Qt | 14:57 |
| trumee | pupnik, although there were bits of Qt3 before but now it is mostly Qt4 | 14:58 |
| pupnik | sounds good | 14:58 |
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| plr_ | trumee: what kind of hardware is needed for the mythtv backend | 14:58 |
| trumee | plr_, depends on what is the source of your Tv | 14:59 |
| Stskeeps | myth is qt? | 14:59 |
| Stskeeps | nice | 14:59 |
| plr_ | trumee: we have cable, dvb-c | 15:00 |
| trumee | plr_, atom is good enough for SD content | 15:00 |
| trumee | plr_, either a dvb-c card or hookup your settopbox via svideo | 15:00 |
| trumee | plr_, which part of the world are you in? | 15:01 |
| plr_ | trumee: finland | 15:01 |
| trumee | plr_, not sure if dvb-c is encrypted in finland. but you can connected stb to the pc | 15:02 |
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| plr_ | trumee: I don't think the public channels are, but commercial ones for sure | 15:02 |
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| trumee | Stskeeps, so will there be any interest in mythtv on meego? | 15:02 |
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| Stskeeps | trumee: dunno, but qt would help. how about licensing? | 15:03 |
| trumee | Stskeeps, gpl i suppose | 15:03 |
| niala_big-bang-t | later trumee | 15:05 |
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| CosmoHill | get berndhs and GAN900 | 16:10 |
| GAN900 | What? | 16:11 |
| CosmoHill | hey* | 16:11 |
| GAN900 | Oh, hi. :) | 16:11 |
| berndhs | mornin | 16:11 |
| CosmoHill | my right hand was one key to the left | 16:11 |
| berndhs | so should have been "hry" ? | 16:12 |
| CosmoHill | e is on the left hand | 16:12 |
| berndhs | ah | 16:13 |
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| alterego | Anyone know how to do compile time meego platform detection in Qt .pro files? | 16:28 |
| thiago_home | alterego: what are you trying to detect? | 16:29 |
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| alterego | thiago_home: presence of OpenGL ES 2 headers | 16:29 |
| thiago_home | alterego: no test needed | 16:30 |
| thiago_home | MeeGo should have it | 16:30 |
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| alterego | Currently I'm using Q_WS_MAEMO_5, but I need to build for maemo/meego and desktop | 16:32 |
| alterego | So I need to know whether to look for GLES headers or normal GL headers | 16:32 |
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| alterego | This is basically my problem ;) | 16:32 |
| Stskeeps | gles | 16:32 |
| thiago_home | ah | 16:32 |
| Stskeeps | always gles | 16:32 |
| alterego | My desktop doesn't have GLES :P | 16:32 |
| thiago_home | let me check, I think there's a #define | 16:32 |
| alterego | My code is compatible with both GL2/3 and GLES2 | 16:33 |
| alterego | But obviously the GLES2 headers arn't on desktop | 16:33 |
| thiago_home | QT_OPENGL_ES_2 is defined | 16:33 |
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| Django84 | hi!! | 16:34 |
| Django84 | I'm looking to buy a wireless router that has the ability to configure when connect to internet (by PPPoE) and when disconnect, automatically. | 16:34 |
| thiago_home | Django84: good for you. Also not relevant here. | 16:35 |
| CosmoHill | Django84: sorry, this place is for MeeGo related issues / chat | 16:35 |
| Django84 | ok guys thanks anyway | 16:36 |
| CosmoHill | Django84: all I'd say is avoid netgear and belkin | 16:36 |
| CosmoHill | say* | 16:36 |
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| alterego | thiago_home: by QtOpenGL? | 16:40 |
| thiago_home | alterego: by qconfig.h | 16:40 |
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| svip | So like, after I have flashed the device, how long does it take the device to boot into MeeGo? | 16:59 |
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| Stskeeps | what device? | 17:01 |
| svip | N900. | 17:01 |
| Stskeeps | did you write the image to microsd? | 17:01 |
| svip | Yes. | 17:01 |
| Stskeeps | loaded the kernel with flasher -l -k -b? | 17:02 |
| svip | Not -b | 17:02 |
| Stskeeps | -f? | 17:02 |
| CosmoHill | svip: first time takes the longest | 17:03 |
| CosmoHill | it also depends upon the speed of the SD card you bought | 17:03 |
| svip | Now something is happening! | 17:03 |
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| Stskeeps | i hope you used -b | 17:03 |
| svip | I did now. | 17:03 |
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| svip | CosmoHill: It seems to be booted, but the system seems rather slow. | 17:07 |
| svip | It took a minute for Firefox to boot. | 17:07 |
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| svip | Also, do I need the SD card afterwards? | 17:08 |
| CosmoHill | yes, meego runs off the SD card | 17:08 |
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| svip | Hm. | 17:09 |
| svip | That's why you recommend SDHC. | 17:09 |
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| psycho_oreos | SDHC just means High Capacity SD :p It doesn't imply anything to do with speed. Speeds for SDHC are noted as Class ranging from 2 - 10, with 10 being the fastest | 17:11 |
| svip | Well, I will have to redo this process when I get my own MicroSD card. | 17:12 |
| svip | I got impatient, so I lended a friend's. | 17:12 |
| psycho_oreos | you meant you borrowed | 17:13 |
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| quetzalzun | sorry for that : P | 17:46 |
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| Venemo_N900 | hi | 18:02 |
| CosmoHill | .o/ | 18:04 |
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| lynxis | n'abend | 18:08 |
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| gabrbedd | CosmoHill: Is that a side-ways, one-eyed frown? Or a dude waving at his friened from a long distance? | 18:13 |
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| gabrbedd | npm: I tried changing themes in Mixxx... and it didn't change the issue I'm having. Thanks for the suggestion, tho. | 18:19 |
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| vgrade1 | Take the red pill, #meego #tegra2 xterm and meegotouchhome images. #joggler #tablet ux and #xbmc images on bug10738.openaos.org | 18:21 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10738 nor, Undecided, ---, tero.kojo, NEED, Meego community ftp server or similar needed | 18:21 |
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| wazd | Hello all | 18:27 |
| Stskeeps | lo wzzd | 18:27 |
| Stskeeps | er, wazd | 18:27 |
| wazd | Stskeeps: o/, hows it going? | 18:27 |
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| Stskeeps | wazd: good, you? | 18:29 |
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| wazd | Stskeeps: me too, we've decided to participate in intel's meego app contest :) | 18:31 |
| Stskeeps | sounds like a good idea, a lot of prices :) | 18:31 |
| wazd | Stskeeps: $50k for the "most elegant app" :) | 18:31 |
| wazd | Stskeeps: looks like a nice opportunity for me :) | 18:32 |
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| Stskeeps | wazd: hehe ;) | 18:33 |
| wazd | Stskeeps: you can try to do something too :) | 18:34 |
| Stskeeps | wazd: nah, i'm good | 18:35 |
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| wazd | Stskeeps: you don't want additional 50k? Damn, it's good to be you :D | 18:41 |
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| Stskeeps | wazd: i'm not much for competitions, i'm better at earning through good work :) | 18:42 |
| wazd | Stskeeps: well, me too, but I'd take a shot anyway :) | 18:43 |
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| CosmoHill | oh bollocks, my two select keys have come off my phone | 19:26 |
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| MindWarper | toutchy toutchy | 19:30 |
| MindWarper | :) | 19:31 |
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| berndhs | 50% change of gluing them back on in the wrong order ? | 19:31 |
| CosmoHill | nope, they're attached to each other | 19:31 |
| MindWarper | if you laptop keys come of your in for treat | 19:32 |
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| CosmoHill | I'll need to go to the market on tuesday and get a new keypad, maybe a new case too | 19:33 |
| MindWarper | try to stik them in is almost impossible :) | 19:33 |
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| npm | gabrbedd: hmmm.. changing skins in mixxx did it for me . in fact if you use the stock CCRMA version of MIXXX on fedora, you'll see the same problem (but it may be dependent on graphics drivers etc according to KDE/Qt people) | 20:52 |
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| gabrbedd | npm: Yeah, I think this is a different issue. | 20:55 |
| gabrbedd | npm: I don't know of many people playing with Mixxx on a GLES setup. | 20:56 |
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| npm | hmm... yeah i forgot about the GLES part. so what happens with different values for QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM | 20:59 |
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| npm | e.g. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/linaro-graphics-wg/+spec/multimedia-linaro-qt-1105 | 21:00 |
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| npm | gabrbedd: have you seen this: http://nielsmayer.com/meego/netbooktablet/ :-) :-) | 21:01 |
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| npm | ( http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-community/2011-February/003477.html ) | 21:02 |
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| gabrbedd | npm: I tried `mixxx -graphicssystem raster` and it didn't really change anything... and I couldn't get menus and stuff to pull up. | 21:07 |
| gabrbedd | npm: But that's kind of beside the point... because I want OpenGL :-) | 21:07 |
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| gabrbedd | npm: Yeah, I saw the ML post... nice screen shots. :-) | 21:07 |
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| npm | it's more than screenshots... it actually works as my netbook | 21:10 |
| philips | build.meego.com has a lot of footer links still pointing at Novell/openSUSE | 21:10 |
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| andre__ | philips, is that a problem? | 21:16 |
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| philips | andre__: Uh, yes, I think you would rather redirect people to bugs.meego.com instead of bugzilla.novell.com for example ;) | 21:17 |
| andre__ | philips, I don't get it. | 21:17 |
| andre__ | (and if Novell or Redhat own the copyright on a particular piece of software in my GNOME desktop, I still go to GNOME's Bugzilla, so I don't get your point) | 21:18 |
| thiago_home | philips: it's the OpenSUSE Build Service | 21:18 |
| thiago_home | why should we not credit OpenSUSE? | 21:18 |
| andre__ | if they have the copyright on it, they have it. full stop. | 21:18 |
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| philips | andre__: the footer on build.meego.com has a link called Help: "Reporting a Bug" which tells you how to report a bug against openSUSE the Linux distro... | 21:20 |
| andre__ | philips, aha! now that's something completely different. | 21:20 |
| philips | andre__: Same with the forum link, etc | 21:21 |
| andre__ | I see. I thought you just refered to the copyright. Sorry, got you wrong | 21:21 |
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| philips | andre__: oh, no, I meant the links | 21:21 |
| andre__ | philips, file a report in bugs.meego.com about it, please | 21:21 |
| andre__ | thanks in advance! | 21:22 |
| philips | andre__: done. | 21:26 |
| andre__ | thanks | 21:26 |
| gabrbedd | npm: Yes, I know it's more than screenshots. :-) | 21:26 |
| ali1234 | btw, the community OBS was the same, last time i checked | 21:27 |
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| slizardo | Hello! | 21:36 |
| andre__ | hi | 21:37 |
| slizardo | Hi, andre__, we are only two here? :-o | 21:37 |
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| andre__ | no, but this is IRC. if everybody starts writing "Hi" too I couldn't spot the real messages anymore in all that noise ;-) | 21:38 |
| andre__ | so I have the "Hi" response task for this hour, and next hour it's somebody else. | 21:38 |
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| slizardo | jeje, good to know that. Very convenient. | 21:39 |
| gabrbedd | andre__: LOL! | 21:39 |
| slizardo | Is this the right place to ask a technical question about MeeGo? (from a developer point of view) | 21:39 |
| andre__ | go ahead and just ask :) | 21:40 |
| andre__ | if it's the wrong channel we could still redirect you... | 21:40 |
| slizardo | Ok. I am creating a MeeGo application using QtCreator, C++, and the wonderful Qt libraries... | 21:40 |
| slizardo | All my "experiments" with the technology have gone ok so far. | 21:41 |
| slizardo | Now I want to persist user preferences. And I couldn't find any example or documentation. My hesitates are basically,... can I write to the filesystem directly? Should I use a standard directory? The regular systems calls are permitted or should I use another mechanism? | 21:42 |
| gabrbedd | slizardo: Either use QSettings... | 21:43 |
| gabrbedd | slizardo: or write your data to $HOME/.config/my_app_name/ | 21:44 |
| slizardo | Humm... interesting, gabrbedd. QSettings. | 21:44 |
| gabrbedd | http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/qsettings.html | 21:45 |
| thiago_home | see QDesktopServices::storageLocation | 21:45 |
| thiago_home | it has a directory that is for your own app | 21:46 |
| slizardo | Very useful that too, thiago_home. | 21:46 |
| slizardo | From I can see on the documentation for QSettings... | 21:47 |
| slizardo | Is an excellent class to store key=>value information. I will use it in certain | 21:48 |
| slizardo | But... | 21:48 |
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| slizardo | If I want to store lot of information with structured information, such as an XML, .. the way to obtain a path where to save it is using the solution suggested by thiago_home, I suppose. Am I right? | 21:50 |
| thiago_home | yes | 21:51 |
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| slizardo | Cool, and now the last thing. Is there something like a sqlite in MeeGo? | 21:53 |
| slizardo | (I mean, official support for sqlite, or an alternative library/service) | 21:54 |
| berndhs | there is sqlite | 21:54 |
| gabrbedd | thiago_home: Looks like you have to use QApplication::applicationName() and QApplication::organizationName() in order for QDesktopServices::storageLocation(DataLocation) to work. | 21:54 |
| gabrbedd | Right? | 21:54 |
| thiago_home | gabrbedd: right | 21:55 |
| gabrbedd | thiago_home: thx slizard: did you follow that? | 21:55 |
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| thiago_home | slizardo: sqlite should come standard | 21:56 |
| slizardo | gabrbedd: yes. | 21:56 |
| slizardo | Ok, that was all I needed | 21:57 |
| slizardo | I'm very grateful for all your help, andre__, gabrbedd, thiago_home, berndhs! | 21:58 |
| andre__ | you're welcome! | 21:58 |
| gabrbedd | slizardo: my pleasure! | 21:58 |
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| slizardo | See you next time, bye! | 22:01 |
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| crevetor | Stskeeps: Hi | 23:09 |
| crevetor | I have a couple of questions regarding n900 camera and gps ? do you have a few minutes ? | 23:10 |
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| Stskeeps | crevetor: sorry, 10pm here so i'm not around :) | 23:16 |
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| crevetor | Stskeeps: at what time can I catch you ? | 23:21 |
| TomaszD | Stskeeps, do you remember when am I supposed to send you the freerunner back? | 23:22 |
| Stskeeps | TomaszD: 2013 | 23:22 |
| crevetor | Well maybe someone else knows this : I have a running 2.6.35.9 kernel with everything needed for the cameras to work but I can't get the v4l devices to show up | 23:23 |
| crevetor | I don't know if I'm missing a module or something. | 23:23 |
| Stskeeps | crevetor: ask theodor and guys in #meego-arm during typical office hours (8am-5pm finnish time) | 23:23 |
| crevetor | Stskeeps: thanks | 23:24 |
| Stskeeps | TomaszD: how broken is it nowadays? | 23:24 |
| TomaszD | Stskeeps, it works great | 23:24 |
| TomaszD | for limited values of "great" | 23:24 |
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| TomaszD | I mean, as good as a freerunner | 23:25 |
| Stskeeps | TomaszD: well, just send it back when you don't want it, i guess :P | 23:25 |
| TomaszD | I'm waiting for the replacement board with an OMAP 3850 | 23:25 |
| TomaszD | :) | 23:25 |
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| Stskeeps | if it didn't work, i would also have accepted a video with it falling from a high height | 23:26 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 23:26 |
| TomaszD | I'm gonna smash it on a slab of concrete during New Year's Eve in 2012 | 23:26 |
| TomaszD | record it and send you the video | 23:26 |
| TomaszD | deal? | 23:26 |
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| Stskeeps | nah :P anyway, you know my addy if you want to send it back :) | 23:27 |
| TomaszD | yup | 23:27 |
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| TomaszD | The Secure Office, Warsaw | 23:27 |
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| Jartza_ | 120°C temperature change... that felt gooood :) | 23:33 |
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| Stskeeps | Jartza: finland sounds really cold atm | 23:33 |
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| CosmoHill | my aunty and cousin are going to lapland tomorrow | 23:34 |
| Jartza | Stskeeps: it is. | 23:34 |
| Jartza | it's -27°C outside here and I just came out from sauna which was over 90°C :) | 23:34 |
| Jartza | chilled outside for few minutes | 23:35 |
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| Stskeeps | it occasionally baffles me why humans would settle in areas that gets that cold :P | 23:35 |
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| crevetor | Stskeeps: Where do you live ? | 23:36 |
| Stskeeps | crevetor: poland, used to live in denmark | 23:36 |
| crevetor | Stskeeps: Ok | 23:36 |
| mihero_ | some of us like to do thing hard way:) | 23:36 |
| mihero_ | things | 23:36 |
| crevetor | I live in Canada but it rarely gets that cold. | 23:36 |
| mihero_ | Stskeeps: why now in poland? | 23:37 |
| crevetor | -30 happens but not that often | 23:37 |
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| CosmoHill | the UK starts to crumple at about 5C | 23:37 |
| Jartza | Stskeeps: I've spent days thinking, why on earth some prehistoric people settled down here in finland :) | 23:37 |
| Jartza | my only logical solution is that they were chasing some reindeer over the icy sea and after 2 months when they were finally returning, the sea wasn't on ice anymore :) | 23:38 |
| Jartza | and they just had to stay | 23:39 |
| berndhs | reminds me of the first white people who came to Canada | 23:39 |
| berndhs | Newfoundland | 23:39 |
| berndhs | the vikings | 23:40 |
| berndhs | after 2 years they had the good sense to go back home - to Greenland | 23:40 |
| CosmoHill | http://i.imgur.com/qE1vp.png | 23:43 |
| gabrbedd | CosmoHill: It crumples because it's a bunch of hot air in a tin gas can. | 23:43 |
| CosmoHill | do you remember when the euro star broke because it was "the wrong type of snow" | 23:44 |
| gabrbedd | CosmoHill: Ha ha! Nice pic. Yours? | 23:44 |
| CosmoHill | nope | 23:44 |
| gabrbedd | no... googling it. | 23:44 |
| CosmoHill | could you imagine after so many erm...things..he remote desktoped back to the first computer | 23:45 |
| Stskeeps | mihero_: the usual story, meet beautiful polish girl, meet her culture.. | 23:45 |
| gabrbedd | LOL! Who ordered this snow?? | 23:45 |
| npm | regarding app storage, also consider: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/qdeclarativeglobalobject.html#offline-storage-api | 23:46 |
| CosmoHill | gabrbedd: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8423851.stm | 23:46 |
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| npm | finland looks colder than canada: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMD1k16baVE (where is that video shot -- looks amazing) | 23:50 |
| mihero_ | Stskeeps: ah, good reason:) I thought you just had moved to lower cost country to do your work:) | 23:50 |
| gabrbedd | CosmoHill: That's wild! I can see how stuff like that happens, though. | 23:51 |
| Stskeeps | mihero_: the taxes and prices of things here does help things | 23:51 |
| berndhs | some parts of Canada are colder than others :) | 23:51 |
| CosmoHill | gabrbedd: boredom and firewalls are the only two reasons I can come up with | 23:52 |
| gabrbedd | CosmoHill: Well, a CS equivalent would be a race condition that worked for 15 years and is suddently being uncovered by a new use-case. | 23:53 |
| mihero_ | what kind of tax base there is in poland? | 23:53 |
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| Stskeeps | mihero_: slightly less than scandinavian countries :P | 23:54 |
| mihero_ | i was two years ago long weekend in gdansk, atleast that place was quite nice and zubrowska is cheep and good:) | 23:55 |
| berndhs | mihero_: about 38 million ? | 23:55 |
| mihero_ | hehe | 23:55 |
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