| *** Armi^ has quit IRC | 00:00 | |
| *** jbos_bk has quit IRC | 00:01 | |
| CosmoHill | lcuk: http://cross-lfs.org/~cosmo/cosmo_cluster/desk4.jpg I replaced the middle monitor with a 22", 1080p viewsonic today :D | 00:02 |
|---|---|---|
| lcuk | CosmoHill, photos like that need 2d barcodes on each screen. | 00:03 |
| lcuk | then using complex software a tiled uniform display could be made out of them automatically :P | 00:03 |
| CosmoHill | some mock up matrix hacking screen | 00:03 |
| CosmoHill | one I actually get windows and rocks install and configured the way I want, I can then deploy them to all nodes and create the dual boot PXE | 00:05 |
| *** gaveen has joined #meego | 00:05 | |
| *** gaveen has joined #meego | 00:05 | |
| lcuk | CosmoHill, sweet | 00:05 |
| CosmoHill | however it's like, two steps forward, a slide down a snake | 00:06 |
| lcuk | such is life. | 00:06 |
| CosmoHill | such is windows | 00:06 |
| *** lcuk has quit IRC | 00:06 | |
| merlin1991 | CosmoHill, are you bored @ home? | 00:08 |
| CosmoHill | yes but that's unrelated to my discussion with lcuk | 00:09 |
| *** NIN101 has quit IRC | 00:09 | |
| *** hugopl has quit IRC | 00:09 | |
| merlin1991 | :) | 00:09 |
| CosmoHill | I'm comparing Windows and Linux computing nodes for my dissertation | 00:10 |
| thomasjfox | hey. Is it worth to buy a class 10 microSD card for meego on n900? | 00:10 |
| *** Robten has quit IRC | 00:10 | |
| CosmoHill | depends, it would improve loading times but I'd have a look at prices for class 10 and class 8 | 00:11 |
| *** Tsarpf has quit IRC | 00:11 | |
| CosmoHill | it there is a small difference in price then go for the class 10, otherwise the glass 8 would be fine | 00:11 |
| thomasjfox | So class 8 might still be ok? Maybe I can find a decent class 8 32gb card | 00:11 |
| CosmoHill | some people are using classes 4 and 6 for the n900 iirc | 00:12 |
| thomasjfox | I have the suddend urge to give MeeGo a try since last Friday ;) | 00:12 |
| CosmoHill | in that case I'd go for a couple of 8GB Class 10 | 00:12 |
| CosmoHill | fyi meego takes a long time to boot the first time so don't worry | 00:13 |
| thomasjfox | Just for the first boot or on every boot (not that I boot my phone very often though)? | 00:14 |
| CosmoHill | first boot from an clean install | 00:14 |
| thomasjfox | ah ok. That's not an issue | 00:14 |
| CosmoHill | just letting you know incase you worried that you bought a bad card | 00:14 |
| thomasjfox | hehe | 00:15 |
| CosmoHill | just having seen something on Phoronix, are people really stupid enough to build Linux systems with PowerVR? | 00:15 |
| thomasjfox | You suggested buying a couple? Is that a good choice for experimenting or will one 16+gb card do? | 00:15 |
| CosmoHill | it's as if they're trying to make it imcompatable / buggy | 00:15 |
| CosmoHill | from a developer point of view you'd have a couple for different images | 00:16 |
| CosmoHill | or one for meego and one for your actually stuff since installing meego formats the card | 00:16 |
| CosmoHill | from my point of view it's to avoid data lose, if I can get 500 images per GB, the bigger the card the larger the potential lose. however compact flash is relative large compared to microSD | 00:17 |
| *** dominikb has quit IRC | 00:18 | |
| thomasjfox | So if I just want it for development right now, would one SD card be fine? I mean, once it's installed it should be able to access the normal phone memory for the "data". | 00:19 |
| *** johd has quit IRC | 00:19 | |
| CosmoHill | not owning a N900 I can't answer that | 00:21 |
| thomasjfox | ah ok. Thanks anyway! | 00:21 |
| trumee | Will it be possible to install Meego on the Harmattan device? | 00:22 |
| *** eluttine has quit IRC | 00:22 | |
| *** tvainio has quit IRC | 00:22 | |
| trumee | ie will it be forward compatible with plain meego? | 00:22 |
| *** jnwi has quit IRC | 00:22 | |
| *** vilvo_away has quit IRC | 00:23 | |
| *** petteri has quit IRC | 00:24 | |
| *** Tm_Tr has quit IRC | 00:24 | |
| *** mnurmi has quit IRC | 00:24 | |
| *** sampos has quit IRC | 00:24 | |
| *** plr___ has quit IRC | 00:24 | |
| *** inz has quit IRC | 00:24 | |
| CosmoHill | trumee: there might be something about that on the wiki / forum / mailing list | 00:24 |
| *** smoinen has quit IRC | 00:24 | |
| *** matrixx has quit IRC | 00:24 | |
| *** poutsi has quit IRC | 00:24 | |
| *** mikkoh has quit IRC | 00:24 | |
| trumee | CosmoHill, right will google that | 00:24 |
| *** rbelem has quit IRC | 00:25 | |
| *** sivang has joined #meego | 00:25 | |
| trumee | does meego have sip support? | 00:25 |
| sivang | trumee: it can, even if it does not have it yet | 00:25 |
| CosmoHill | I can't say what that is | 00:25 |
| *** lmoura has quit IRC | 00:25 | |
| sivang | CosmoHill: software internet phone | 00:25 |
| sivang | I think | 00:25 |
| *** pcacjr has quit IRC | 00:25 | |
| *** lizardo has quit IRC | 00:25 | |
| *** aloisiojr has quit IRC | 00:25 | |
| *** lauro has quit IRC | 00:25 | |
| *** luck has quit IRC | 00:25 | |
| sivang | trumee: are you thinking building hardware internet phones using meego's core? | 00:26 |
| sivang | like snom for instance | 00:26 |
| *** Venemo has quit IRC | 00:26 | |
| trumee | On maemo sip/rtp was a failure (maemo Bug 10388) | 00:26 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10388 tri, Low, ---, janne.hietamaki, CLOS WONTFIX, Support blocked field for test results | 00:26 |
| *** Andy80 has quit IRC | 00:26 | |
| CosmoHill | best not to use the word "bug" and numbers in the same line 38 | 00:27 |
| trumee | sivang, no i am hoping harmattan has decent sip support and not broken like maemo | 00:27 |
| sivang | trumee: where is it broken with maemo? I never tried it, only skype and it is superb. | 00:28 |
| trumee | sivang, check out the bug 8 mentioned. | 00:28 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8 maj, Medium, ---, peng.li, VERI FIXED, [Qt demos] opengl/Sample Buffers failed due to not support sample buffer | 00:28 |
| * trumee doesn't gives a rat ass about skype | 00:28 | |
| sivang | trumee: checking | 00:28 |
| *** gaveen has quit IRC | 00:28 | |
| sivang | trumee: why not? it is a superb service. a great scare for monopolozized operators in here, as well as joikuspot | 00:29 |
| *** espen77 has quit IRC | 00:29 | |
| * sivang notes Maemo is much freedom comapred to any other platform | 00:29 | |
| trumee | sivang, also there is a huge thread on tmo about choppy audio which is referenced in that bug report | 00:29 |
| *** pcacjr has joined #meego | 00:29 | |
| *** pcacjr has quit IRC | 00:29 | |
| *** pcacjr has joined #meego | 00:29 | |
| *** lizardo has joined #meego | 00:30 | |
| trumee | sivang, Sip gives me more independence than skype. | 00:30 |
| *** Venemo_webchat has joined #meego | 00:30 | |
| *** BluX has joined #meego | 00:30 | |
| *** luck has joined #meego | 00:30 | |
| CosmoHill | wb lc | 00:30 |
| CosmoHill | ah, wrong person | 00:30 |
| sivang | trumee: I never had to need more then skype, and for me it is more reliable through very bad 3G data and crappy public wan | 00:31 |
| *** lauro has joined #meego | 00:31 | |
| *** rishi has left #meego | 00:32 | |
| trumee | sivang, skype doesnt work for me. good for you if it does | 00:32 |
| *** lofty306 has joined #meego | 00:32 | |
| sivang | trumee: I see. so this bug is bout opengl and qml, hos is related to sip codec performance? | 00:32 |
| sivang | CosmoHill: err, sip is not what I said. 'session initiation protocol' | 00:33 |
| *** degggeard has quit IRC | 00:33 | |
| *** tvainio has joined #meego | 00:33 | |
| trumee | sivang, crap hang on. maybe wrong bug # | 00:33 |
| *** eluttine has joined #meego | 00:33 | |
| sivang | CosmoHill: that might be better known | 00:33 |
| *** jnwi has joined #meego | 00:33 | |
| * sivang likes freeSWITCH a lot | 00:33 | |
| *** degggeard has joined #meego | 00:33 | |
| sivang | and mod sofia developed by Nokia :-) | 00:33 |
| trumee | sivang, http://test.maemo.org/testzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=10388 | 00:34 |
| trumee | sivang, N900 doesnt ork well with FreeSwitch | 00:34 |
| *** vilvo_away has joined #meego | 00:34 | |
| *** petteri has joined #meego | 00:34 | |
| *** sampos has joined #meego | 00:34 | |
| *** plr_ has joined #meego | 00:34 | |
| * trumee has both asterisk and freeswitch servers | 00:35 | |
| *** inz has joined #meego | 00:35 | |
| *** smoinen has joined #meego | 00:35 | |
| *** lofty306 has quit IRC | 00:35 | |
| trumee | sivang, check the bottom of the bug report for a wav file | 00:35 |
| *** Tm_Tr has joined #meego | 00:36 | |
| *** mnurmi has joined #meego | 00:36 | |
| *** luck has quit IRC | 00:36 | |
| *** poutsi has joined #meego | 00:36 | |
| *** dneary_ has joined #meego | 00:36 | |
| *** mikkoh has joined #meego | 00:37 | |
| *** matrixx has joined #meego | 00:37 | |
| sivang | trumee: well, you said there is a bug in sip or sluggish audio? (this is actually bug in the codec, as sip is very close to http ) | 00:37 |
| trumee | sivang, yes it is more of an rtp issue | 00:38 |
| sivang | trumee: right, and yo are not using srtp yes? | 00:38 |
| trumee | sivang, no. dont think N900 supports srtp | 00:38 |
| sivang | ok | 00:39 |
| trumee | sivang, my question is whether somebody is testing meego for sip/rtp or not. | 00:39 |
| sivang | trumee: good question, let's head over to meego-qa although most people are asleep there or out for the day | 00:39 |
| sivang | trumee: better yet, can you post a thread to meego-qa ml? | 00:39 |
| sivang | trumee: that will make sure there is a response | 00:40 |
| trumee | sivang, yup. could do that | 00:40 |
| *** alvaro__ has quit IRC | 00:40 | |
| CosmoHill | it's between 10:40pm and 12:40am for most of europe | 00:40 |
| *** lmoura has joined #meego | 00:40 | |
| sivang | trumee: I would be very thankful if you do and will try find an answer. | 00:40 |
| sivang | trumee: can you please CC me directly onto the mail to the ML? | 00:41 |
| trumee | sivang, ok | 00:41 |
| sivang | trumee: appreciated, thanks. | 00:41 |
| *** gaveen has joined #meego | 00:41 | |
| *** aloisiojr has joined #meego | 00:41 | |
| sivang | trumee: you have my email? | 00:42 |
| trumee | sivang, would need that. | 00:42 |
| trumee | sivang, does meego care about maemo bugs? | 00:42 |
| CosmoHill | sivang: he also has your number and home address, infact he's over the street in that bush | 00:42 |
| sivang | CosmoHill: hehe, I'll start screaming | 00:43 |
| * sivang screams in panic | 00:43 | |
| CosmoHill | roger that, I'll listen out for a girl | 00:43 |
| GAN900 | trumee, no. | 00:43 |
| *** lardman has quit IRC | 00:44 | |
| *** poutsi has quit IRC | 00:44 | |
| *** tvainio has quit IRC | 00:44 | |
| *** jnwi has quit IRC | 00:44 | |
| *** smoinen has quit IRC | 00:44 | |
| *** sampos has quit IRC | 00:44 | |
| *** bschlob1 has left #meego | 00:44 | |
| *** dailylinux has joined #meego | 00:44 | |
| trumee | GAN900, gstreamer libraries are shared between maemo and meego. and the bug is in gstreamer. | 00:44 |
| sivang | trumee: if the same module used for that in maemo is now used in meego then the bug might have been propogated there, however, I a not so sure about how power saving is working on handset meego right now, so it might not symptomize just yet. Better email the -dev and -qa MLs and we see tomorrow | 00:45 |
| sivang | trumee: where's the evidence it is in gstreamer? | 00:45 |
| sivang | trumee: (/me reads on) | 00:45 |
| trumee | sivang, it is an rtpjitterbuffer issue which sits in gstreamer | 00:46 |
| *** matrixx has quit IRC | 00:46 | |
| *** eluttine has quit IRC | 00:46 | |
| *** mnurmi has quit IRC | 00:46 | |
| *** mikkoh has quit IRC | 00:46 | |
| *** eti has quit IRC | 00:46 | |
| *** plr_ has quit IRC | 00:46 | |
| *** dharman has quit IRC | 00:46 | |
| *** inz has quit IRC | 00:46 | |
| *** petteri has quit IRC | 00:46 | |
| *** vilvo_away has quit IRC | 00:47 | |
| *** Tm_Tr has quit IRC | 00:47 | |
| *** TomaszD has quit IRC | 00:47 | |
| sivang | what's the arg to find to scavange for symlinks? | 00:48 |
| *** hirabayashitaro has quit IRC | 00:48 | |
| *** mpostelnicu has quit IRC | 00:48 | |
| *** larin has quit IRC | 00:49 | |
| sivang | trumee: ok, is there a patch somewhere already? | 00:49 |
| trumee | sivang, no. it is still not solved | 00:50 |
| sivang | trumee: I am going to test it, I am preparing a meego boot for my N900 as we speak | 00:50 |
| sivang | trumee: but I don't know if there is a sip UI in the current handset UX | 00:50 |
| * sivang will check | 00:51 | |
| *** gaveen has quit IRC | 00:51 | |
| trumee | sivang, thanks | 00:51 |
| *** sergiusens has quit IRC | 00:52 | |
| *** dneary_ has quit IRC | 00:52 | |
| sivang | trumee: I guess I need to setup freswitch for that or asterisk or just use some free sip provider? | 00:52 |
| sivang | e.g., I want to register to the pbx etc | 00:52 |
| *** argretzi has joined #meego | 00:53 | |
| trumee | sivang, yes | 00:53 |
| sivang | trumee: k | 00:53 |
| trumee | sivang, if you have any UI let me know, i will setup access to * for you | 00:54 |
| *** kaitlin_ has quit IRC | 00:55 | |
| *** gaveen has joined #meego | 00:56 | |
| *** gaveen has joined #meego | 00:56 | |
| sivang | trumee: ah great, save me pulling hairs with asterisk or freeswitch. Although freeswitch is mych more saner in my taste | 00:57 |
| *** mikhas has quit IRC | 00:57 | |
| *** mikhas has joined #meego | 00:58 | |
| *** eluttine has joined #meego | 00:58 | |
| *** mnurmi has joined #meego | 00:58 | |
| *** mikkoh has joined #meego | 00:58 | |
| *** plr_ has joined #meego | 00:58 | |
| *** matrixx has joined #meego | 00:58 | |
| *** Venemo has joined #meego | 00:59 | |
| *** Tm_Tr has joined #meego | 00:59 | |
| *** notmart has quit IRC | 00:59 | |
| *** petteri has joined #meego | 00:59 | |
| *** vilvo_away has joined #meego | 00:59 | |
| *** Venemo_webchat has quit IRC | 01:01 | |
| *** kaitlin_ has joined #meego | 01:03 | |
| *** dragan has joined #meego | 01:03 | |
| *** jonwil has joined #meego | 01:03 | |
| *** belkiss has joined #meego | 01:03 | |
| *** mmc has quit IRC | 01:04 | |
| *** bman has quit IRC | 01:05 | |
| *** vilvo_away has quit IRC | 01:05 | |
| *** milliams has quit IRC | 01:06 | |
| *** merlin1991 has quit IRC | 01:06 | |
| *** petteri has quit IRC | 01:07 | |
| *** plr_ has quit IRC | 01:07 | |
| *** eluttine has quit IRC | 01:07 | |
| *** eijk_ has joined #meego | 01:07 | |
| *** eluttine has joined #meego | 01:07 | |
| *** gabrbedd has quit IRC | 01:07 | |
| *** matrixx has quit IRC | 01:07 | |
| *** mnurmi has quit IRC | 01:07 | |
| *** mnurmi has joined #meego | 01:07 | |
| *** mikkoh has quit IRC | 01:08 | |
| *** plr_ has joined #meego | 01:08 | |
| *** merlin1991 has joined #meego | 01:08 | |
| *** matrixx has joined #meego | 01:08 | |
| *** wagi has quit IRC | 01:10 | |
| *** Spelli has quit IRC | 01:10 | |
| *** eijk has quit IRC | 01:10 | |
| *** thiagoss has quit IRC | 01:10 | |
| *** Spelli has joined #meego | 01:10 | |
| *** wagi has joined #meego | 01:11 | |
| *** merlin1991 has quit IRC | 01:11 | |
| *** eluttine has quit IRC | 01:12 | |
| *** mnurmi has quit IRC | 01:12 | |
| *** Tm_Tr has quit IRC | 01:12 | |
| *** matrixx has quit IRC | 01:13 | |
| *** dgc03052 has quit IRC | 01:13 | |
| *** plr_ has quit IRC | 01:13 | |
| DawnFoster | FYI, since some of you have been asking for an update from Intel: http://meego.com/community/blogs/imad/2011/update-intel | 01:13 |
| *** lizardo has quit IRC | 01:16 | |
| *** vilvo_away has joined #meego | 01:16 | |
| *** poutsi has joined #meego | 01:16 | |
| *** tvainio has joined #meego | 01:16 | |
| *** smoinen has joined #meego | 01:16 | |
| *** jnwi has joined #meego | 01:16 | |
| *** sampos has joined #meego | 01:16 | |
| *** Saviq is now known as Saviq_afk | 01:16 | |
| *** thomasjfox has quit IRC | 01:16 | |
| *** SiggyF has quit IRC | 01:17 | |
| *** kaitlin_ has quit IRC | 01:18 | |
| *** poutsi has quit IRC | 01:18 | |
| *** dogi has quit IRC | 01:18 | |
| CosmoHill | thanks DawnFoster and thank Imad for us too :) | 01:18 |
| *** tvainio has quit IRC | 01:18 | |
| *** zumbi has quit IRC | 01:19 | |
| *** vilvo_away has quit IRC | 01:20 | |
| *** vilvo_away has joined #meego | 01:21 | |
| *** smoinen has quit IRC | 01:21 | |
| *** poutsi has joined #meego | 01:21 | |
| *** tvainio has joined #meego | 01:21 | |
| *** smoinen has joined #meego | 01:21 | |
| dragan | Will MeeGo APIs still be Qt based? | 01:22 |
| *** kaitlin_ has joined #meego | 01:22 | |
| *** aloisiojr has quit IRC | 01:23 | |
| *** tvainio has quit IRC | 01:24 | |
| *** perolsen has quit IRC | 01:24 | |
| *** jnwi has quit IRC | 01:26 | |
| *** smoinen has quit IRC | 01:26 | |
| *** poutsi has quit IRC | 01:27 | |
| *** sampos has quit IRC | 01:27 | |
| *** vilvo_away has quit IRC | 01:27 | |
| auke | dragan: ask the TSG | 01:27 |
| *** asabil has quit IRC | 01:27 | |
| trumee | sivang, you received my email? | 01:29 |
| trumee | sivang, i didnt receive any confirmation email from meego-qa list, so not sure if it went through or not | 01:30 |
| *** zumbi has joined #meego | 01:30 | |
| *** thiagoss has joined #meego | 01:31 | |
| *** pmcgowan has quit IRC | 01:32 | |
| *** ramHero has joined #meego | 01:33 | |
| *** drag0nz has joined #meego | 01:35 | |
| *** Diod has quit IRC | 01:35 | |
| drag0nz | hey guys, do apps running on MeeGo 1.1 core will automaticly run on Nokia N900? | 01:36 |
| trip0 | i don't understand the question | 01:38 |
| trip0 | will app from 1.1 core run on the n900? | 01:39 |
| trip0 | sure, if they are installed | 01:39 |
| *** suy_ has joined #meego | 01:40 | |
| sivang | trumee: you ad to register | 01:40 |
| sivang | trumee: did you register? | 01:40 |
| trumee | sivang, yes i did register on meego.com | 01:41 |
| sivang | trumee: okay, send a hi to the mailing list and let's if I see it as well | 01:41 |
| drag0nz | trip0, yeah thats what i mean.. ive been using the N900 and i just checked meego.com and so there is a live image of Meego 1.1 to b downloaded | 01:41 |
| drag0nz | so i was wondering if an applications is running on that core software, it means it will run just fine on the N900 device | 01:41 |
| trumee | sivang, i cc'ed the email to you | 01:42 |
| *** belkiss has quit IRC | 01:42 | |
| thiago_home | drag0nz: do you mean an N900 running MeeGo? | 01:44 |
| thiago_home | drag0nz: or do you mean an N900 running Maemo 5? | 01:44 |
| thiago_home | if you meant the latter, note that you may need to recompile | 01:44 |
| *** puffin has quit IRC | 01:46 | |
| *** dgc03052 has joined #meego | 01:47 | |
| *** toniher has quit IRC | 01:48 | |
| sivang | trumee: yes, I see I thik it is okay. if you got no error from qa then it is there. | 01:48 |
| sivang | trumee: in the mailing list, so peopel will see it in the morning | 01:48 |
| *** lolloo has joined #meego | 01:48 | |
| *** dailylinux has quit IRC | 01:48 | |
| *** eijk_ has quit IRC | 01:48 | |
| trumee | sivang, right | 01:49 |
| lolloo | http://www.concept-phones.com/nokia/nokia-n950-brings-twist-original-design-n900/ | 01:50 |
| drag0nz | thiago, yea, thanks | 01:51 |
| *** GeneralAntilles1 has joined #meego | 01:51 | |
| *** lainwir3d has quit IRC | 01:51 | |
| *** GeneralAntilles has quit IRC | 01:52 | |
| lolloo | http://nsuffys.blogspot.com/2011/02/un-successeur-au-nokia-n900-le-nokia.html | 01:52 |
| sivang | hmm, why can't I find raw images from here: | 01:53 |
| sivang | http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/ | 01:53 |
| sivang | I want a recent daily | 01:54 |
| *** ismael has quit IRC | 01:54 | |
| *** JPohlmann has quit IRC | 01:55 | |
| berndhs | sivang: I think they are weekly now, in the 1.1.90/ directory | 01:55 |
| sivang | hey! it is here :) | 01:55 |
| sivang | http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/1.1.90/1.1.90.2.20110208.4/handset/images/meego-handset-ia32-pinetrail-mtf/ | 01:55 |
| sivang | is this the intel UX? | 01:55 |
| sivang | for the n900 ? | 01:55 |
| sivang | berndhs: when has this changed? | 01:56 |
| berndhs | no idea, I didn't do it :) | 01:56 |
| *** zeph97 has quit IRC | 01:56 | |
| *** achipa has quit IRC | 01:56 | |
| *** Alison_Chaiken has quit IRC | 02:00 | |
| DawnFoster | sivang: definitely not an N900 image | 02:01 |
| *** bman has joined #meego | 02:01 | |
| DawnFoster | N900 is ARM / pinetrail is Intel | 02:01 |
| *** yanshuang has joined #meego | 02:01 | |
| sivang | DawnFoster: it said handset ;) my bad | 02:01 |
| *** dchaverri26 has quit IRC | 02:01 | |
| *** zumbi has quit IRC | 02:01 | |
| sivang | oh and has ia32 | 02:01 |
| sivang | geez | 02:01 |
| sivang | I haz ta sleep | 02:01 |
| auke | you better haz sleep | 02:02 |
| sivang | whic IIRC is 'Intel Architecture' right? | 02:02 |
| sivang | 32bit | 02:02 |
| *** ramHero has quit IRC | 02:02 | |
| sivang | auke: good night! | 02:02 |
| * sivang nights all | 02:02 | |
| CosmoHill | bye bye person | 02:03 |
| *** dogi has joined #meego | 02:04 | |
| *** DawnFoster has quit IRC | 02:06 | |
| sivang | CosmoHill: I hope I still am :) | 02:06 |
| * sivang -> zleep | 02:07 | |
| *** yanli has joined #meego | 02:09 | |
| Venemo | thiago_home: ping | 02:09 |
| *** btdrucke has joined #meego | 02:09 | |
| *** poutsi has joined #meego | 02:11 | |
| *** eluttine has joined #meego | 02:11 | |
| *** petteri has joined #meego | 02:11 | |
| *** Tm_Tr has joined #meego | 02:11 | |
| *** mikkoh has joined #meego | 02:11 | |
| *** andyross has quit IRC | 02:12 | |
| *** matrixx has joined #meego | 02:12 | |
| *** mnurmi has joined #meego | 02:12 | |
| *** plr_ has joined #meego | 02:13 | |
| *** zumbi has joined #meego | 02:13 | |
| *** haitao has left #meego | 02:13 | |
| CosmoHill | anyone else find it questionable that there is 4 people / nicks in here from xob.kapi.fr ? | 02:14 |
| *** mikkoh has quit IRC | 02:15 | |
| berndhs | why is that unusual ? | 02:17 |
| *** petteri has quit IRC | 02:18 | |
| *** plr_ has quit IRC | 02:18 | |
| *** mnurmi has quit IRC | 02:18 | |
| *** poutsi has quit IRC | 02:18 | |
| *** eluttine has quit IRC | 02:18 | |
| CosmoHill | just seems weird | 02:18 |
| *** matrixx has quit IRC | 02:18 | |
| CosmoHill | some people will have a nick for work and one for home | 02:19 |
| berndhs | maybe they're taking over | 02:19 |
| *** Tm_Tr has quit IRC | 02:19 | |
| *** petteri has joined #meego | 02:20 | |
| *** plr_ has joined #meego | 02:20 | |
| *** tvainio has joined #meego | 02:20 | |
| *** mnurmi has joined #meego | 02:20 | |
| *** jnwi has joined #meego | 02:20 | |
| *** smoinen has joined #meego | 02:20 | |
| *** vilvo_away has joined #meego | 02:20 | |
| *** sampos has joined #meego | 02:21 | |
| *** mikkoh has joined #meego | 02:22 | |
| *** sampos has quit IRC | 02:25 | |
| *** tvainio has quit IRC | 02:25 | |
| *** vilvo_away has quit IRC | 02:25 | |
| CosmoHill | an interesting and disturbing program on bbc3 | 02:25 |
| *** mnurmi has quit IRC | 02:25 | |
| *** jnwi has quit IRC | 02:26 | |
| *** smoinen has quit IRC | 02:26 | |
| *** mikkoh has quit IRC | 02:26 | |
| *** petteri has quit IRC | 02:26 | |
| *** thiago_home has quit IRC | 02:26 | |
| *** zumbi has quit IRC | 02:26 | |
| *** plr_ has quit IRC | 02:27 | |
| *** zumbi has joined #meego | 02:28 | |
| *** dgc03052 has quit IRC | 02:29 | |
| *** Guest74985 has joined #meego | 02:30 | |
| *** Guest74985 has quit IRC | 02:33 | |
| *** gemfield has joined #meego | 02:34 | |
| *** willer_ has quit IRC | 02:35 | |
| *** lolloo has quit IRC | 02:37 | |
| *** xnt14 has quit IRC | 02:40 | |
| *** MohammadAG has quit IRC | 02:40 | |
| *** eluttine has joined #meego | 02:40 | |
| *** Tm_Tr has joined #meego | 02:40 | |
| *** matrixx has joined #meego | 02:41 | |
| *** MohammadAG has joined #meego | 02:41 | |
| *** poutsi has joined #meego | 02:41 | |
| *** BluX has quit IRC | 02:41 | |
| *** tvainio has joined #meego | 02:41 | |
| *** xnt14 has joined #meego | 02:41 | |
| *** zumbi has quit IRC | 02:41 | |
| *** vilvo_away has joined #meego | 02:42 | |
| *** sampos has joined #meego | 02:42 | |
| *** jnwi has joined #meego | 02:42 | |
| *** smoinen has joined #meego | 02:42 | |
| *** matrixx has quit IRC | 02:44 | |
| *** tvainio has quit IRC | 02:45 | |
| *** puffin has joined #meego | 02:46 | |
| *** vilvo_away has quit IRC | 02:46 | |
| *** sampos has quit IRC | 02:46 | |
| *** eluttine has quit IRC | 02:47 | |
| *** jnwi has quit IRC | 02:47 | |
| *** smoinen has quit IRC | 02:47 | |
| *** dogi has quit IRC | 02:47 | |
| *** Tm_Tr has quit IRC | 02:48 | |
| *** suy_ has quit IRC | 02:48 | |
| *** poutsi has quit IRC | 02:48 | |
| *** espen77 has joined #meego | 02:50 | |
| *** bman has quit IRC | 02:51 | |
| *** mpoirier has quit IRC | 02:51 | |
| *** Lantizia has joined #meego | 02:53 | |
| *** zumbi has joined #meego | 02:54 | |
| Lantizia | Hey sorry for being dense here, but after watching a few elop videos I'm getting the impression Windows>Symbian... but MeeGo seperate non-phone project (was always a successor to the Maemo tablet project anyway) and is unaffected? | 02:54 |
| *** zeph97 has joined #meego | 02:54 | |
| *** xnt14 has quit IRC | 02:54 | |
| *** kall has quit IRC | 02:54 | |
| *** gaojinl_ has joined #meego | 02:55 | |
| *** LjL has quit IRC | 02:56 | |
| *** hlzxy has joined #meego | 02:59 | |
| *** MohammadAG has quit IRC | 02:59 | |
| *** qgil has quit IRC | 03:00 | |
| *** raster has joined #meego | 03:00 | |
| *** raster has joined #meego | 03:00 | |
| *** MohammadAG has joined #meego | 03:01 | |
| *** mlfoster has quit IRC | 03:01 | |
| *** xnt14 has joined #meego | 03:01 | |
| *** tvainio has joined #meego | 03:02 | |
| *** MarcA-N has quit IRC | 03:03 | |
| *** vilvo_away has joined #meego | 03:03 | |
| *** sampos has joined #meego | 03:03 | |
| *** mikhas has quit IRC | 03:03 | |
| *** eluttine has joined #meego | 03:03 | |
| *** jnwi has joined #meego | 03:03 | |
| *** smoinen has joined #meego | 03:03 | |
| *** githogori has quit IRC | 03:04 | |
| *** Tm_Tr has joined #meego | 03:04 | |
| jrayhawk | It's my understanding that Nokia has contractual obligations with Intel to fulfill, probably involving the release of a phone using Intel hardware. I assume only the executivs know if current Nokia involvement is just going through the motions until the contract is done, a medium-term hedge, or a long-term strategy. | 03:04 |
| *** petteri has joined #meego | 03:05 | |
| *** mnurmi has joined #meego | 03:05 | |
| jrayhawk | This is all speculation, though. | 03:05 |
| *** plr_ has joined #meego | 03:05 | |
| *** mikkoh has joined #meego | 03:05 | |
| *** matrixx has joined #meego | 03:07 | |
| berndhs | yeah predictions are unreliable, especially about the future | 03:08 |
| *** bman has joined #meego | 03:08 | |
| *** bman has quit IRC | 03:09 | |
| *** lukus has quit IRC | 03:10 | |
| *** poutsi has joined #meego | 03:10 | |
| *** javispedro has quit IRC | 03:13 | |
| timeless | jrayhawk: generally contracts with such obligations would have a penalty clause for failing to meet it | 03:13 |
| timeless | and the penalty is generally less than the general value of the contract | 03:13 |
| timeless | whichmeans that assuming such a clause existed, it'd still save money | 03:14 |
| timeless | note that i have absolutely zero knowledge of any contracts | 03:14 |
| timeless | so i'm willing to believe no such obligations exist | 03:14 |
| timeless | but either way, if you're trying to save money, cutting and running can do that | 03:14 |
| berndhs | my speculation is that this deal is done in large part to weaken the position of the symbian faction | 03:15 |
| timeless | kinda a waste | 03:15 |
| timeless | symbian was going to die one way or the other | 03:15 |
| *** Kevin__B has joined #meego | 03:15 | |
| timeless | and any idiot working on symbian who couldn't see that gets what [s]he deserves | 03:15 |
| berndhs | yes, but at the moment they are the only source of income | 03:15 |
| timeless | false | 03:16 |
| timeless | income comes from s40 | 03:16 |
| berndhs | symbian still was miuch stronger than the rest, they actually have produt | 03:17 |
| berndhs | *product | 03:17 |
| * timeless fails trying to find values for s40 | 03:17 | |
| *** dcharles has joined #meego | 03:17 | |
| timeless | s40 has products too | 03:17 |
| *** dddd has joined #meego | 03:17 | |
| berndhs | the rest of them don't at present | 03:17 |
| berndhs | yes but an old cheap one, nothing to move ahead | 03:17 |
| berndhs | but as I said its speculation, seeing that the symbian folks are seriously weakened now | 03:18 |
| *** Kevin_B has quit IRC | 03:18 | |
| berndhs | and an outsider gets the blame | 03:18 |
| timeless | anyway.... most people see android + apple eating symbian's top side | 03:19 |
| *** smoinen has quit IRC | 03:19 | |
| timeless | and some other groups eating s40's market | 03:19 |
| berndhs | certainly yes | 03:19 |
| *** dddd has left #meego | 03:19 | |
| timeless | but yeah, it's kinda lame, people in finland will blame a foreigner for "killing their economy" | 03:19 |
| *** dddd has joined #meego | 03:19 | |
| timeless | where the fault lies with the management from the past decade | 03:19 |
| CosmoHill | nokia vs nokia? | 03:20 |
| timeless | fwiw, i consider symbian OT for this channel | 03:20 |
| *** mnurmi has quit IRC | 03:20 | |
| berndhs | also a lot of what Elop said was talking to investors | 03:20 |
| *** poutsi has quit IRC | 03:20 | |
| *** petteri has quit IRC | 03:20 | |
| *** sampos has quit IRC | 03:21 | |
| *** tvainio has quit IRC | 03:21 | |
| timeless | berndhs: you mean at an investor event, he'd talk to investors? unbelievable! | 03:21 |
| *** plr_ has quit IRC | 03:21 | |
| *** Tm_Tr has quit IRC | 03:21 | |
| berndhs | yeah strange isn't it | 03:21 |
| CosmoHill | berndhs: having 5 nicks might not be odd but it's annoying when they all come and go at once | 03:21 |
| *** vilvo_away has quit IRC | 03:21 | |
| timeless | absolutely shocking! | 03:21 |
| *** matrixx has quit IRC | 03:21 | |
| *** jnwi has quit IRC | 03:21 | |
| timeless | anyway, part of his job is to set expectations | 03:21 |
| berndhs | I only have 3 nicks, and use them one at a time :) | 03:22 |
| timeless | and part of his job is to clean up the company | 03:22 |
| *** mikkoh has quit IRC | 03:22 | |
| *** eluttine has quit IRC | 03:22 | |
| timeless | it seems like he's working on both | 03:22 |
| timeless | which i guess means he's doing his job | 03:22 |
| berndhs | sure | 03:22 |
| berndhs | if the product stragegy works, who knows | 03:22 |
| * timeless shrugs | 03:22 | |
| *** lofty306 has joined #meego | 03:22 | |
| timeless | he needed a strategy which would provide for a number of devices by a certain time | 03:23 |
| berndhs | success could be based on better 3D, better 4G, or shinier buttons | 03:23 |
| timeless | and he needed to kill Ovi | 03:23 |
| timeless | meego as designed in house was not going to enable Ovi to be killed | 03:23 |
| timeless | which is unfortunate | 03:23 |
| timeless | symbian as designed in house also didn't enable anyone to kill Ovi | 03:24 |
| timeless | killing Ovi is important. and it will die. yay! | 03:24 |
| timeless | [celebrate] | 03:24 |
| berndhs | probably yoo many factions blocking any movement inside teh company | 03:24 |
| timeless | nah, we have lots of movement | 03:24 |
| timeless | in lots of conflicting directions! | 03:25 |
| pupnik | right | 03:25 |
| berndhs | however, back to meego, Imad made a really important point - most investment and work in meego has been from intel | 03:25 |
| timeless | ever watch those videos that try to explain hot gas atoms to children? | 03:25 |
| timeless | it's like that | 03:25 |
| timeless | berndhs: he's absolutely correct | 03:25 |
| berndhs | yes i see the point, lots of movement and no forward progress | 03:26 |
| timeless | you must have taken a physics class | 03:26 |
| berndhs | several :P | 03:26 |
| *** SiggyF has joined #meego | 03:26 | |
| timeless | here it's more important to go speeding around [in circles] than to have a useful velocity :/ | 03:26 |
| * timeless is hoping that will change | 03:27 | |
| *** topeira has joined #meego | 03:28 | |
| *** topeira has joined #meego | 03:28 | |
| *** kimitake is now known as kimitake_idle | 03:28 | |
| berndhs | i tried the latest handset image on my laptop, it connects ipv6 automatically | 03:29 |
| *** zumbi has quit IRC | 03:29 | |
| *** juanman has joined #meego | 03:31 | |
| *** glin has joined #meego | 03:33 | |
| *** yanli has quit IRC | 03:34 | |
| *** Dr_Who has quit IRC | 03:35 | |
| *** zumbi has joined #meego | 03:35 | |
| CosmoHill | cyas | 03:35 |
| berndhs | night | 03:36 |
| *** wliao has joined #meego | 03:36 | |
| *** CosmoHill has quit IRC | 03:37 | |
| *** mnurmi has joined #meego | 03:38 | |
| *** petteri has joined #meego | 03:38 | |
| *** tvainio has joined #meego | 03:38 | |
| *** sampos has joined #meego | 03:38 | |
| *** plr_ has joined #meego | 03:38 | |
| *** poutsi has joined #meego | 03:38 | |
| *** Tm_Tr has joined #meego | 03:39 | |
| *** mikkoh has joined #meego | 03:39 | |
| *** matrixx has joined #meego | 03:39 | |
| *** jnwi has joined #meego | 03:39 | |
| *** niala1 has quit IRC | 03:39 | |
| *** poutsi has quit IRC | 03:40 | |
| *** tvainio has quit IRC | 03:42 | |
| *** Michael has joined #meego | 03:42 | |
| *** Michael is now known as Guest41481 | 03:43 | |
| *** mnurmi has quit IRC | 03:43 | |
| *** petteri has quit IRC | 03:43 | |
| *** matrixx has quit IRC | 03:43 | |
| *** plr_ has quit IRC | 03:43 | |
| *** mikkoh has quit IRC | 03:43 | |
| *** sampos has quit IRC | 03:43 | |
| *** jnwi has quit IRC | 03:44 | |
| *** Tm_Tr has quit IRC | 03:44 | |
| *** ML-37 has joined #meego | 03:44 | |
| *** lofty306 has quit IRC | 03:44 | |
| *** Dr_Who has joined #meego | 03:47 | |
| *** Dr_Who has joined #meego | 03:47 | |
| *** mitsutaka has joined #meego | 03:47 | |
| Venemo | timeless: what do you think of http://nokiaplanb.com/ ? | 03:48 |
| *** ML-37 is now known as lofty306 | 03:48 | |
| timeless | they're deluded | 03:49 |
| *** yanli has joined #meego | 03:49 | |
| berndhs | isn't hiring preference by age illegal in most places now ? not that it isn't done anyway | 03:50 |
| timeless | Return ..to a strategy ..through ..unrivaled user experience. | 03:50 |
| timeless | not something nokia really ever had | 03:50 |
| timeless | Venemo: that also can't spell Qt correctly | 03:51 |
| timeless | which is hardly a glowing advertisement | 03:51 |
| Venemo | hehe | 03:52 |
| berndhs | maybe to focused on apple | 03:52 |
| berndhs | s/to/too/ | 03:52 |
| infobot | berndhs meant: maybe too focused on apple | 03:52 |
| timeless | not announcing their intention to terminate Ovi also doesn't win my vote | 03:53 |
| timeless | some of their points aren't bad | 03:53 |
| timeless | but they're missing key points | 03:53 |
| timeless | e.g. getting rid of nearly all management layers | 03:53 |
| timeless | personally, i'd buy the company, and then terminate everyone and take the money and give it back to the share holders | 03:54 |
| timeless | people could then start a new company if they wanted | 03:54 |
| * timeless wonders how nokia's book value compares to its stock value | 03:55 | |
| berndhs | isn't ownership widely dispersed ? as in, nobody even owns 2 % ? | 03:55 |
| timeless | sadly | 03:55 |
| *** tchan has quit IRC | 03:56 | |
| *** lofty306 has quit IRC | 03:57 | |
| *** lofty306 has joined #meego | 03:57 | |
| *** Alison_Chaiken has joined #meego | 03:58 | |
| *** liyan has joined #meego | 03:58 | |
| *** tchan has joined #meego | 03:59 | |
| timeless | http://www.nokia.com/NOKIA_COM_1/About_Nokia/Financials/Financial_Statements/pdf_2009/Shares_09.pdf seems to indicate they have ~4billion shares | 04:00 |
| timeless | http://ycharts.com/companies/NOK/cash_on_hand claims 13billion[usd] | 04:00 |
| timeless | darn | 04:01 |
| *** Aranel has joined #meego | 04:01 | |
| timeless | so, price would need to drop to ~3USD/share | 04:01 |
| *** yanli has quit IRC | 04:02 | |
| Aranel | <Aranel> Anything new today on MWC? Except Medfield and the tablet UI preview? | 04:02 |
| timeless | http://www.google.com/search?q=mobile+world+congress+2011 | 04:04 |
| timeless | err | 04:04 |
| *** muep has quit IRC | 04:04 | |
| * timeless kicks google | 04:04 | |
| timeless | http://www.google.com/search?q=mobile+world+congress+2011#q=mobile+world+congress+2011&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbo=u&tbs=nws:1&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wn&fp=cad9a61cefb45d7 | 04:04 |
| *** petteri has joined #meego | 04:05 | |
| *** tvainio has joined #meego | 04:05 | |
| *** zumbi has quit IRC | 04:05 | |
| *** sampos has joined #meego | 04:05 | |
| *** poutsi has joined #meego | 04:05 | |
| *** jnwi has joined #meego | 04:05 | |
| *** timeless has quit IRC | 04:05 | |
| *** Tm_Tr has joined #meego | 04:06 | |
| *** matrixx has joined #meego | 04:06 | |
| *** mikkoh has joined #meego | 04:06 | |
| *** vilvo_away has joined #meego | 04:06 | |
| *** eluttine has joined #meego | 04:06 | |
| Aranel | well, I also know how to use Google News. Asked about it to see if I missed anything. | 04:06 |
| *** plr_ has joined #meego | 04:06 | |
| *** mnurmi has joined #meego | 04:06 | |
| *** zumbi has joined #meego | 04:06 | |
| *** SiggyF has quit IRC | 04:07 | |
| *** mwichmann has quit IRC | 04:07 | |
| *** matrixx has quit IRC | 04:08 | |
| *** timeless has joined #meego | 04:08 | |
| *** Tm_Tr has quit IRC | 04:08 | |
| *** tvainio has quit IRC | 04:09 | |
| *** vilvo_away has quit IRC | 04:09 | |
| *** muep has joined #meego | 04:09 | |
| *** tvainio has joined #meego | 04:10 | |
| timeless | http://konigsberg.mozilla.org/.hg/patches/apache-gzip <- is the full patch | 04:10 |
| *** fnordianslip has quit IRC | 04:10 | |
| timeless | http://mxr-test.konigsberg.mozilla.org/mxr-test/source/.hg/patches/apache-gzip?raw=1 <- is the full patch as served with gzip | 04:10 |
| * timeless hopes | 04:10 | |
| *** matrixx has joined #meego | 04:11 | |
| *** Tm_Tr has joined #meego | 04:11 | |
| *** vilvo_away has joined #meego | 04:11 | |
| *** smoinen has joined #meego | 04:12 | |
| dddd | Hello everyone! Anybody helps me? | 04:14 |
| dddd | I try to develop a tool to monitor the CPU usage for every process in Meego. Which API can I use? | 04:14 |
| jrayhawk | /proc? | 04:14 |
| dddd | develop a tool , I inout the process ID. | 04:15 |
| dddd | Then monitor the cpu usage continuly | 04:15 |
| jrayhawk | Or BSD process accounting v3, but that has an data/expense tradeoff. | 04:15 |
| jrayhawk | elsa and bootchart are examples of existing BSD PAv3 monitors. | 04:16 |
| *** paulliu has joined #meego | 04:16 | |
| jrayhawk | and top and gkrellm are examples of /proc pollers. | 04:19 |
| jrayhawk | and conky | 04:20 |
| timeless | grr, those were meant for another channel | 04:20 |
| *** kimmok has quit IRC | 04:20 | |
| dddd | Does Meego provides an API for the developer? | 04:21 |
| dddd | which channel | 04:21 |
| *** yugang has joined #meego | 04:22 | |
| yugang | hi | 04:22 |
| *** valianholt has quit IRC | 04:23 | |
| *** swc|666 has joined #meego | 04:23 | |
| pupnik | Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl! http://i.imgur.com/H9eXa.png :D | 04:23 |
| *** Kevin__B has quit IRC | 04:24 | |
| dddd | Hello, timeless, can you tell me which channal should I ask this question? I want to know the API. | 04:25 |
| *** KevinB has joined #meego | 04:25 | |
| * timeless shrugs | 04:25 | |
| timeless | isn't there already a load monitor app for meego? | 04:26 |
| timeless | i'd look at the task manager things for gnome/kde | 04:26 |
| timeless | or top/htop | 04:26 |
| timeless | my earlier comment was about something i wrote before you said hello, it wasn't even meant for this network :( | 04:27 |
| dddd | got it. But I need the CPU usage in my own program. | 04:27 |
| timeless | ? | 04:27 |
| timeless | most apps for linux are "open source" | 04:27 |
| timeless | that means you can read their sources and see how they work | 04:27 |
| timeless | if they use an "api", then you too can use that "api" | 04:28 |
| dddd | Yeap, maybe I should learn it first | 04:29 |
| *** yanli has joined #meego | 04:34 | |
| *** liyan has quit IRC | 04:34 | |
| *** matrixx has quit IRC | 04:38 | |
| *** matrixx has joined #meego | 04:39 | |
| *** zeph97 has quit IRC | 04:40 | |
| *** zeph97 has joined #meego | 04:40 | |
| *** beford has joined #meego | 04:43 | |
| *** NishanthMenon has joined #meego | 04:44 | |
| *** srag has quit IRC | 04:45 | |
| *** dl9pf has quit IRC | 04:46 | |
| *** dl9pf has joined #meego | 04:46 | |
| *** dl9pf has joined #meego | 04:46 | |
| *** DawnFoster has joined #meego | 04:47 | |
| *** srag has joined #meego | 04:52 | |
| *** Venemo has quit IRC | 04:53 | |
| *** sergiusens has joined #meego | 04:55 | |
| *** geek00l_ has quit IRC | 04:55 | |
| *** b-man` has quit IRC | 04:56 | |
| *** thiagoss has quit IRC | 04:58 | |
| *** dotblank has joined #meego | 05:02 | |
| *** juan_man has joined #meego | 05:05 | |
| *** zeph97 has quit IRC | 05:05 | |
| *** juanman has quit IRC | 05:05 | |
| *** zeph97 has joined #meego | 05:09 | |
| *** mnurmi has quit IRC | 05:10 | |
| *** mnurmi has joined #meego | 05:10 | |
| *** Dr_Who has quit IRC | 05:12 | |
| *** berndhs has quit IRC | 05:14 | |
| *** andyross has joined #meego | 05:15 | |
| *** zeph97 has quit IRC | 05:15 | |
| *** vokimon_home has quit IRC | 05:16 | |
| *** phinaliumz has quit IRC | 05:20 | |
| *** mnurmi has quit IRC | 05:22 | |
| *** zeph97 has joined #meego | 05:24 | |
| *** kidproquo has quit IRC | 05:24 | |
| *** mnurmi has joined #meego | 05:28 | |
| *** inz has joined #meego | 05:29 | |
| *** maybeHere has joined #meego | 05:30 | |
| *** arvind_khadri has joined #meego | 05:31 | |
| *** zeph97 has quit IRC | 05:33 | |
| *** maybeArgh has quit IRC | 05:34 | |
| *** juan_man has quit IRC | 05:35 | |
| *** zeph97 has joined #meego | 05:37 | |
| *** githogori has joined #meego | 05:37 | |
| *** GeneralAntilles1 is now known as GeneralAntilles | 05:38 | |
| *** GeneralAntilles has joined #meego | 05:38 | |
| *** odin has joined #meego | 05:40 | |
| *** odin is now known as Guest29849 | 05:40 | |
| *** Zhonghua has joined #meego | 05:40 | |
| *** inz has quit IRC | 05:41 | |
| *** thuttu77 has quit IRC | 05:42 | |
| *** mlin has joined #meego | 05:44 | |
| *** Guest29849 is now known as Odin_ | 05:44 | |
| *** Odin_ has quit IRC | 05:45 | |
| *** Odin_ has joined #meego | 05:45 | |
| *** Odin_ is now known as odin_ | 05:46 | |
| pupnik | is this funnier? http://i.imgur.com/EfzVR.png | 05:47 |
| *** hlzxy has quit IRC | 05:51 | |
| *** pcfe has quit IRC | 05:59 | |
| *** pcfe has joined #meego | 05:59 | |
| *** pcfe has joined #meego | 05:59 | |
| *** niala1 has joined #meego | 05:59 | |
| *** odin_ has quit IRC | 06:05 | |
| *** topeira has quit IRC | 06:07 | |
| *** lindqvust has joined #meego | 06:10 | |
| *** Unmenschlich has quit IRC | 06:10 | |
| *** Unmenschlich has joined #meego | 06:11 | |
| *** Alison_Chaiken has quit IRC | 06:14 | |
| *** stylesen has joined #meego | 06:15 | |
| *** timeless has quit IRC | 06:17 | |
| *** tvainio has quit IRC | 06:18 | |
| *** tvainio has joined #meego | 06:19 | |
| *** yanshuang has quit IRC | 06:20 | |
| *** stilli has quit IRC | 06:22 | |
| *** MindWarper has joined #meego | 06:23 | |
| *** MindWarper has quit IRC | 06:23 | |
| *** geek00l has joined #meego | 06:26 | |
| *** skython has quit IRC | 06:30 | |
| *** zeph97 has quit IRC | 06:32 | |
| *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC | 06:34 | |
| *** yanli has quit IRC | 06:40 | |
| *** yanshuang has joined #meego | 06:42 | |
| *** puffin has quit IRC | 06:46 | |
| *** arvind_khadri has joined #meego | 06:46 | |
| *** niala1 has quit IRC | 06:52 | |
| *** aholler_ has joined #meego | 06:57 | |
| *** Tscheesy_ has joined #meego | 07:00 | |
| *** Tscheesy has quit IRC | 07:00 | |
| *** aholler has quit IRC | 07:01 | |
| *** igo has joined #meego | 07:02 | |
| *** inz has joined #meego | 07:09 | |
| *** pcacjr has quit IRC | 07:10 | |
| *** pcacjr has joined #meego | 07:10 | |
| *** pcacjr has quit IRC | 07:10 | |
| *** pcacjr has joined #meego | 07:10 | |
| *** yanli has joined #meego | 07:12 | |
| *** odin_ has joined #meego | 07:13 | |
| *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC | 07:14 | |
| *** tangh has joined #meego | 07:14 | |
| *** sraue has quit IRC | 07:14 | |
| *** tommim has joined #meego | 07:14 | |
| *** sraue has joined #meego | 07:15 | |
| *** cuerva has quit IRC | 07:18 | |
| *** hlzxy has joined #meego | 07:20 | |
| *** kimmok has joined #meego | 07:23 | |
| *** Zhonghua has quit IRC | 07:27 | |
| *** bergie has joined #meego | 07:28 | |
| *** DocScrutinizer has quit IRC | 07:32 | |
| *** DocScrutinizer has joined #meego | 07:32 | |
| *** ahiemstra has quit IRC | 07:33 | |
| *** stilli has joined #meego | 07:37 | |
| *** ahiemstra has joined #meego | 07:42 | |
| *** jaakujar has quit IRC | 07:43 | |
| *** kavacha has joined #meego | 07:44 | |
| *** stilli has quit IRC | 07:47 | |
| *** zgyarmati has joined #meego | 07:47 | |
| *** ab has quit IRC | 07:49 | |
| *** ahiemstra has quit IRC | 07:50 | |
| *** Robten has joined #meego | 07:51 | |
| *** vasvlad has quit IRC | 07:51 | |
| *** zgyarmati has quit IRC | 07:51 | |
| *** vasvlad has joined #meego | 07:51 | |
| *** jayabharath has joined #meego | 07:52 | |
| *** Acadambi__ has joined #meego | 07:52 | |
| *** Acadambi__ has quit IRC | 07:54 | |
| *** ACadambi has joined #meego | 07:55 | |
| *** ahiemstra has joined #meego | 07:57 | |
| *** Aparna has joined #meego | 08:01 | |
| *** jayabharath has quit IRC | 08:03 | |
| *** vasvlad has quit IRC | 08:03 | |
| *** vasvlad has joined #meego | 08:03 | |
| *** pixelgeek has joined #meego | 08:07 | |
| *** thuttu77 has joined #meego | 08:09 | |
| *** stilli has joined #meego | 08:10 | |
| *** Al_Cho has quit IRC | 08:13 | |
| Guest41481 | what is new about meego project? | 08:14 |
| Guest41481 | I heard maybe it will change its name in the future. | 08:15 |
| *** kimmok has quit IRC | 08:15 | |
| *** JunJi has quit IRC | 08:15 | |
| *** zutesmog has left #meego | 08:16 | |
| *** Dijit has joined #meego | 08:18 | |
| *** niku_ has joined #meego | 08:18 | |
| *** lauro has quit IRC | 08:21 | |
| *** lmoura has quit IRC | 08:21 | |
| *** pcacjr has quit IRC | 08:21 | |
| *** SiggyF has joined #meego | 08:21 | |
| hena | Guest41481: to Meeblin? | 08:21 |
| *** larin has joined #meego | 08:23 | |
| Guest41481 | I also have no idea , maybe. | 08:23 |
| zma | YouuComeBack | 08:23 |
| *** nicu has quit IRC | 08:24 | |
| *** slonopotamus has joined #meego | 08:24 | |
| *** Sazpaimon has quit IRC | 08:26 | |
| *** jd is now known as Jade | 08:27 | |
| *** kedz has joined #meego | 08:31 | |
| *** kedz has quit IRC | 08:32 | |
| *** Sazpaimon has joined #meego | 08:33 | |
| *** Richrd has joined #meego | 08:33 | |
| *** rodarvus has quit IRC | 08:34 | |
| *** Al_Cho has joined #meego | 08:35 | |
| *** KevinB has quit IRC | 08:37 | |
| *** ab has joined #meego | 08:38 | |
| *** ab has joined #meego | 08:38 | |
| *** andyross has quit IRC | 08:40 | |
| *** swc|666 has quit IRC | 08:45 | |
| *** tekojo has joined #meego | 08:46 | |
| *** tekojo has joined #meego | 08:46 | |
| *** Zhonghua has joined #meego | 08:46 | |
| *** dneary_ has joined #meego | 08:46 | |
| *** ayanes has joined #meego | 08:51 | |
| *** ayanes has joined #meego | 08:51 | |
| *** Sazpaimon has quit IRC | 08:52 | |
| *** treebeen has joined #meego | 08:53 | |
| *** lauro has joined #meego | 08:53 | |
| *** lmoura has joined #meego | 08:53 | |
| treebeen | http://nokiaplanb.com/ - maybe nokia can be brought back to meego? | 08:54 |
| *** pohly has joined #meego | 08:54 | |
| Stskeeps | -bar, please | 08:54 |
| *** Richrd has quit IRC | 08:54 | |
| *** dneary_ has quit IRC | 08:54 | |
| Tm_T | I'm honestly annoyed with all the offtopic in meego mailinglists | 08:56 |
| *** pcacjr has joined #meego | 08:56 | |
| *** pcacjr has quit IRC | 08:56 | |
| *** pcacjr has joined #meego | 08:56 | |
| *** arvind_khadri has joined #meego | 08:58 | |
| *** Saviq_afk is now known as Saviq | 08:59 | |
| *** lauro has quit IRC | 08:59 | |
| *** lauro has joined #meego | 09:00 | |
| *** kidproquo has joined #meego | 09:00 | |
| *** slonopotamus_ has joined #meego | 09:01 | |
| *** piiasi has joined #meego | 09:01 | |
| *** slonopotamus has quit IRC | 09:03 | |
| * lofty306 tosses Stskeeps a guinness | 09:03 | |
| Dijit | :o this isn't the bar | 09:04 |
| *** larin has quit IRC | 09:04 | |
| *** thiago_home has joined #meego | 09:06 | |
| *** aloril has quit IRC | 09:06 | |
| *** pixelgeek has quit IRC | 09:07 | |
| *** espen77 has quit IRC | 09:07 | |
| *** slonopotamus_ has quit IRC | 09:07 | |
| *** Sazpaimon has joined #meego | 09:08 | |
| *** Zhonghua has quit IRC | 09:10 | |
| *** beford has quit IRC | 09:11 | |
| *** npm_ is now known as npm | 09:11 | |
| *** sawe has joined #meego | 09:13 | |
| *** Flanbix has quit IRC | 09:13 | |
| npm | Meego 1.2 runs pretty nice on a netbook :-) | 09:14 |
| npm | but is there a way of widening the "Toolbar/Nav Bar" pulldown at the top so it senses a finger? (works ok w/ trackpad, but hard to get to very edge of screen w/ fat finger and screen bezel) | 09:18 |
| npm | not making it physically wider when down, but when hidden, having a wider area sensitive | 09:19 |
| *** Flanbix has joined #meego | 09:19 | |
| *** smhar has joined #meego | 09:20 | |
| *** aloril has joined #meego | 09:20 | |
| *** mattock has joined #meego | 09:21 | |
| *** mece has joined #meego | 09:23 | |
| dotblank | http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/02/intel-meego-phone-and-tablet-pictured-at-mwc/ | 09:23 |
| dotblank | that looks pretty cool | 09:23 |
| *** Saviq is now known as Saviq_afk | 09:23 | |
| *** nazgee has joined #meego | 09:24 | |
| npm | meewant | 09:24 |
| *** timeless has joined #meego | 09:25 | |
| timeless | lbt: ping | 09:26 |
| *** johd has joined #meego | 09:27 | |
| *** _berto_ has joined #meego | 09:28 | |
| *** trupheenix has joined #meego | 09:28 | |
| *** ubIx has joined #meego | 09:29 | |
| *** jysky has quit IRC | 09:29 | |
| timeless | x-fade: ping | 09:29 |
| *** jysky has joined #meego | 09:29 | |
| mece | timeless, \o | 09:30 |
| *** obit_sweden has joined #meego | 09:30 | |
| mece | mece, nobody's home | 09:30 |
| mece | LOL | 09:31 |
| * mece bonks himself on the head for being an idiot | 09:31 | |
| mece | timeless, nobody's home | 09:31 |
| timeless | thanks | 09:32 |
| *** ubIx_ has quit IRC | 09:32 | |
| *** niku_ has quit IRC | 09:33 | |
| *** ramkrsna has joined #meego | 09:33 | |
| *** dotblank has quit IRC | 09:35 | |
| *** freaksed has joined #meego | 09:36 | |
| *** mairas has joined #meego | 09:36 | |
| *** swc|666 has joined #meego | 09:37 | |
| freaksed | can anyone lend a thought on getting qjackctl working on meego? i havent been able to figure out how to get rid of the x11/xatom.h missing error | 09:38 |
| *** kraiskil has joined #meego | 09:39 | |
| *** calvaris has joined #meego | 09:40 | |
| *** thiago_home has quit IRC | 09:41 | |
| *** bergie has quit IRC | 09:42 | |
| *** csgeek has quit IRC | 09:43 | |
| *** MacDrunk has joined #meego | 09:44 | |
| *** kaihenr has joined #meego | 09:44 | |
| *** jlamadon has joined #meego | 09:44 | |
| *** kaihenr_ has joined #meego | 09:45 | |
| *** petrux has joined #meego | 09:45 | |
| *** nicu has joined #meego | 09:45 | |
| *** niku_ has joined #meego | 09:45 | |
| *** mirr0r has quit IRC | 09:46 | |
| *** dotblank has joined #meego | 09:47 | |
| freaksed | has anyone had success installing qjackctl on meego? | 09:47 |
| timeless | freaksed: do you have xorg-x11-devel? | 09:48 |
| freaksed | i was having trouble finding it in the repository | 09:48 |
| eg81 | freaksed: zypper install xorg-x11-proto-xproto | 09:49 |
| *** murrayc has joined #meego | 09:49 | |
| timeless | http://download.meego.com/live/MeeGo:/1.0:/Netbook/MeeGo_1.0/repodata/repoview/glew-devel-0-1.5.2-1.2.html | 09:49 |
| timeless | proto-xproto? wow | 09:50 |
| freaksed | ah i think i remember seeing that it the list, and links! sweet | 09:50 |
| freaksed | those look like what im looking for, thank you | 09:51 |
| eg81 | timeless: rpm -qf /usr/include/X11/Xatom.h | 09:53 |
| eg81 | xorg-x11-proto-xproto-7.0.17-1.3.i586 | 09:53 |
| *** TheOpenSourcerer has joined #meego | 09:53 | |
| *** csgeek has joined #meego | 09:56 | |
| timeless | eg81: that only works if you have it handy | 10:00 |
| mece | oo... ivi looks pretty sweet! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJhLah_u_4U | 10:01 |
| *** vasvlad has quit IRC | 10:01 | |
| *** vanadis_ has joined #meego | 10:01 | |
| *** vasvlad has joined #meego | 10:01 | |
| *** vasvlad has quit IRC | 10:02 | |
| *** jpe has joined #meego | 10:02 | |
| *** vasvlad has joined #meego | 10:02 | |
| *** larin has joined #meego | 10:02 | |
| *** jpe has joined #meego | 10:02 | |
| *** kall has joined #meego | 10:03 | |
| *** freaksed has quit IRC | 10:03 | |
| *** vblazquez has quit IRC | 10:03 | |
| *** JunJi has joined #meego | 10:04 | |
| *** KaL has joined #meego | 10:05 | |
| *** tarantism_ has quit IRC | 10:05 | |
| hlzxy | I use rsync to load meego packages but failed, do server work well or my host problem? | 10:06 |
| Stskeeps | both maybe | 10:06 |
| *** Saviq_afk is now known as Saviq | 10:07 | |
| *** javiF has joined #meego | 10:09 | |
| hlzxy | anyother way to load ? | 10:09 |
| *** vasvlad has quit IRC | 10:09 | |
| Stskeeps | we use oss/ and non-oss/ now, not "core" | 10:09 |
| *** vblazquez has joined #meego | 10:09 | |
| *** vasvlad has joined #meego | 10:09 | |
| *** asabil has joined #meego | 10:09 | |
| hlzxy | but nothing on ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/meego/builds/1.1.90/1.1.90.2.20110208.4/oss/ ,do its'resource from that url when I load? | 10:13 |
| *** niala1 has joined #meego | 10:14 | |
| timeless | Stskeeps: oh joy | 10:15 |
| * timeless loves the random renames in meego | 10:15 | |
| Stskeeps | timeless: it was announced, though | 10:15 |
| vgrade | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmXi50cC6Nc, tabet ux devs | 10:15 |
| timeless | yeah, my computer doesn't parse announce | 10:15 |
| timeless | Stskeeps: can i get people to actually file bugs or update a script if they do things like that? | 10:16 |
| vgrade | any of you guys on here? | 10:16 |
| Dijit | I'm here | 10:18 |
| timeless | Dijit: i think he wants to know if you're in the video ;-) | 10:18 |
| timeless | (he failed to ask that, but hey) | 10:18 |
| Dijit | oh | 10:18 |
| Dijit | I probably am. | 10:18 |
| Dijit | I'm in all the videos | 10:18 |
| *** dotblank has quit IRC | 10:19 | |
| mece | Peter Schneider is ever positive :) | 10:19 |
| *** theodor has quit IRC | 10:20 | |
| timeless | mece: that's his job | 10:21 |
| timeless | he's in marketting | 10:21 |
| *** theodor has joined #meego | 10:22 | |
| *** tmoenicke has joined #meego | 10:22 | |
| *** tmoenicke has quit IRC | 10:23 | |
| *** ptlo has joined #meego | 10:24 | |
| *** x_O has joined #meego | 10:24 | |
| *** _des_ has quit IRC | 10:25 | |
| *** uhef has joined #meego | 10:26 | |
| timeless | mece: when do lbt/x-fade generally de-idle? | 10:26 |
| *** swc|666 has quit IRC | 10:27 | |
| *** gaveen has quit IRC | 10:28 | |
| *** eijk has joined #meego | 10:34 | |
| *** ivanich has quit IRC | 10:34 | |
| *** jrocha has joined #meego | 10:35 | |
| Mirv | I guess lbt generally around now, but depends of course what stuff to do | 10:35 |
| mece | timeless, I would have thought they'd be here by now. | 10:36 |
| *** ivanich has joined #meego | 10:37 | |
| *** pavank10 has joined #meego | 10:37 | |
| *** mikhas has joined #meego | 10:38 | |
| *** kall has quit IRC | 10:41 | |
| *** gaveen has joined #meego | 10:41 | |
| *** geek00l has quit IRC | 10:42 | |
| *** dneary_ has joined #meego | 10:44 | |
| *** dazo_afk is now known as dazo | 10:46 | |
| *** raochet has joined #meego | 10:48 | |
| *** TerrIn has joined #meego | 10:48 | |
| *** glin has quit IRC | 10:49 | |
| dneary_ | Anyone with a few euros lying around should probably buy some Nokia stock about now | 10:49 |
| dneary_ | It hit bottom at $8.80 | 10:49 |
| dneary_ | And will rise a few percent today | 10:50 |
| * dm8tbr lacks the monopoly money right now | 10:50 | |
| *** dotblank has joined #meego | 10:50 | |
| *** glin has joined #meego | 10:51 | |
| lbt | o/ | 10:51 |
| odin_ | Happy Birthday MeeGo is it day | 10:51 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 10:51 |
| Dijit | heh | 10:52 |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Stskeeps | 10:52 | |
| Dijit | I wish I could invest in nokia right now | 10:52 |
| dneary_ | There's a common effect at work: some news comes out, people react badly, and the stock over-sells | 10:52 |
| Dijit | because when they bounce back.. I'd be rich | 10:52 |
| *** Stskeeps changes topic to "Channel for general discussions about MeeGo | MeeGo project info: http://meego.com | This channel is logged at http://mg.pov.lt/meego-irclog/ | IRC guidelines and more info: http://bit.ly/cYT2Hs | For 'bar' talk (rumours, gossip, etc), please go to #meego-bar | HAPPY BIRTHDAY MEEGO! - it's really been a year to day zero :)" | 10:52 | |
| dneary_ | Until the point that it's really cheap | 10:52 |
| dneary_ | And then rebounds a little - all the news is priced in | 10:52 |
| *** rodarvus has joined #meego | 10:52 | |
| odin_ | show us the chart of the previous low (before the price in) | 10:53 |
| * dazo takes on the provocative prophesy hat | 10:53 | |
| dneary_ | odin_, I reckon yesterday evening | 10:53 |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: -o Stskeeps | 10:53 | |
| dneary_ | Sorry - Friday evening | 10:53 |
| dazo | Dijit: Nokia will go even lower and will be bought up by Microsoft ... Finland offices will be closed down, and a Microsoft is happy | 10:53 |
| Dijit | lol | 10:53 |
| * dazo takes off the provocative prophesy hat | 10:53 | |
| Dijit | pessimist much? | 10:53 |
| dneary_ | And the Monday morning selling was people who didn't really understand what was happening & saw the stock drop over 10% in a day | 10:53 |
| *** bergie has joined #meego | 10:54 | |
| dneary_ | But then again, even a dead cat bounces on its way down, they say | 10:54 |
| Dijit | xD | 10:54 |
| Dijit | Elop must have an agenda. | 10:54 |
| dneary_ | Sometimes you see a downward slide up-tick before carrying on down | 10:54 |
| *** mak1 has joined #meego | 10:54 | |
| dazo | Dijit: Nokia has said no Qt for WP7, Symbian will die slowly and MeeGo will not get much attention ... rumours about massive downsizing is already swirling .... Nokia will pull themselves out of MeeGo, because they will focus on the hardware now and let Microsoft do the software | 10:54 |
| Dijit | who walks into a meeting with "the devil" without a plan? | 10:54 |
| dneary_ | (that's the people who had short options on the share buying to fill their option) | 10:55 |
| Dijit | dazo: have you seen the stuff surrounding meego? | 10:55 |
| Dijit | it's not just nokia | 10:55 |
| *** fnordianslip has joined #meego | 10:55 | |
| dneary_ | Dijit, You're assuming he isn't an emmisary | 10:55 |
| TuOki^ | http://nokiaplanb.com/ | 10:55 |
| dneary_ | A Trojan Horse | 10:55 |
| Dijit | haha | 10:55 |
| *** arfoll has joined #meego | 10:55 | |
| mak1 | HEY GUYS I KNOW I M ON THE WRONG CHANNEL BUT CAN ANY ONE TELL ME HOW TO CONNECT TO EFnet.. | 10:56 |
| dneary_ | TuOki^, That has no chance, I'm afraid. The board has spoken | 10:56 |
| dazo | Dijit: I'm not saying MeeGo will die ... but Nokia + MeeGo is a dead horse ... MeeGo on the tablets, In-Vehicle and set-top boxes, MeeGo got big chances there | 10:56 |
| Dijit | I know this may seem bad, but no matter what happens, meego will live on, it already has been snapped up by a lot of car manufacturers for infotainment systems | 10:56 |
| Dijit | it's the standard in most places | 10:56 |
| Dijit | it's going nowhere. | 10:56 |
| TuOki^ | i allready send email those guys and said that i can give my share proxy to them | 10:56 |
| Dijit | nokia can either make money on it, or not. | 10:56 |
| *** mirek2_ has joined #meego | 10:56 | |
| Dijit | business wise... elop would be a fool to stop production. | 10:56 |
| timeless | dazo: why should microsoft buy nokia? | 10:56 |
| dazo | Dijit: and in addition ... Intel and ARM is competitors ... that Nokia, driving the ARM part in MeeGo with hardware now pulls themselves out, is not a bad thing for Intel | 10:56 |
| Dijit | timeless: patents | 10:56 |
| timeless | right now microsoft gets large distribution at minimal risk | 10:56 |
| _berto_ | TuOki^: http://nokiaplanc.com/ | 10:56 |
| timeless | dijit: microsoft isn't really that big of a patent house | 10:57 |
| *** jpetersen has joined #meego | 10:57 | |
| Dijit | between them, they'd be able to put royalties on a computer guru sneezing | 10:57 |
| ruskie | mak1, try www.efnet.net | 10:57 |
| dazo | timeless: good point | 10:57 |
| Dijit | timeless: nokia is. | 10:57 |
| odin_ | I looked over a 1 year in US markets and it was 7 months ago it was this low, and then briefly, the last Thu/Fri price was the best closing price since that low | 10:57 |
| TuOki^ | _berto_ : heheheh | 10:57 |
| Dijit | timeless: GSM, Bluetooth, WiFi | 10:57 |
| *** fcrozat|gone is now known as fcrozat | 10:57 | |
| Dijit | 3G | 10:57 |
| *** seanvk has quit IRC | 10:57 | |
| *** kaitlin__ has joined #meego | 10:57 | |
| *** seanvk has joined #meego | 10:57 | |
| *** dcharles has quit IRC | 10:57 | |
| timeless | you missed a couple of interesting areas | 10:57 |
| *** yanshuang has quit IRC | 10:58 | |
| * Dijit shrugs | 10:58 | |
| *** jfding has quit IRC | 10:58 | |
| timeless | but i don't think microsoft really cares | 10:58 |
| *** yanshuang has joined #meego | 10:58 | |
| *** kaitlin_ has quit IRC | 10:58 | |
| *** geek00l has joined #meego | 10:58 | |
| *** jfding has joined #meego | 10:58 | |
| Dijit | I think they do | 10:58 |
| dazo | timeless: Microsoft cares about getting a real hardware vendor commitment for shipping WP7 phones .... Nokia gives them that now | 10:58 |
| Dijit | they've mentioned "an interest" | 10:58 |
| *** mak1 has quit IRC | 10:58 | |
| timeless | anyone here familiar w/ meego repository structure? i'm wondering how likely http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1063213 is to give me something useful | 10:59 |
| timeless | dazo: yes | 10:59 |
| timeless | but why buy it? there's no point | 10:59 |
| timeless | ms is generally happy when it has multiple vendors taking/sharing risk for it | 10:59 |
| timeless | buying them is pointless | 10:59 |
| *** leinir has quit IRC | 11:00 | |
| *** mak1 has joined #meego | 11:00 | |
| dazo | well, as Dijit said, patents ... Microsoft don't have too much patents now ... but more patents in the mobile marked is not a bad strategy, and considering the battle between Nokia and Apple ... | 11:00 |
| *** niala1 has quit IRC | 11:00 | |
| dazo | or rather, Microsoft don't have too much patents in the mobile area ... they do have quite some in the software area, I believe | 11:01 |
| Dijit | yeah | 11:01 |
| Dijit | they have a patent on the double click | 11:01 |
| dazo | With more patents, they can threaten Andriod and Apple much more efficient | 11:01 |
| Dijit | and apple have the patent for the click and hold. | 11:01 |
| Dijit | so. | 11:01 |
| timeless | patents don't really work that well against big fish | 11:01 |
| timeless | a big fish can work around the patents or counter | 11:02 |
| *** arkub has joined #meego | 11:02 | |
| *** ckandeler has quit IRC | 11:02 | |
| timeless | they're much more effective against medium sized fish | 11:02 |
| ab | yep, most times they only used to negotiate deals | 11:02 |
| dneary_ | Actually, Nokia Oyj is already up 2% on its closing price in the Finnish stock market this morning, will open higher on Dow | 11:02 |
| dazo | yeah, and with patents which they can threaten Android or Apple with ... they can dare to implement features the others have patents on in WP7 ... and if they go to attack on Microsoft, they can do a counter attack with their patents | 11:03 |
| *** dharman has joined #meego | 11:03 | |
| dneary_ | And trey give a nice dividend (€0.40 last time, works out at a 7% yield on current price | 11:03 |
| dneary_ | ok gotta get a bunch of work done today... off IRC | 11:04 |
| *** dneary_ has quit IRC | 11:04 | |
| RST38h | Have to wait for a few months to see what happens to the stock price | 11:04 |
| *** mak1 has left #meego | 11:05 | |
| *** Jade has quit IRC | 11:05 | |
| *** Perry_Platypus has joined #meego | 11:05 | |
| timeless | so... anyone here familiar w/ rpm repo structure? | 11:05 |
| Dijit | I'm.. familiar | 11:05 |
| raster | this nokia -> wp7 stuff has given me more amusing popcorn moments than anything has for a long time | 11:06 |
| dazo | RST38h: if you have faith in Nokia, that they will go up ... now is probably the best time to buy Nokia stocks, when the market is uncertain - as that drives the price down ... | 11:06 |
| timeless | raster++ | 11:06 |
| pupnik | i'm sticking with the cthulhu story | 11:06 |
| timeless | Dijit: i'm considering http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1063213 as a way to get a list of packages | 11:06 |
| timeless | and i'm wondering if there's some value in looking in the repodata/ directory, e.g. pupnik at the *-filelists.xml.gz things | 11:06 |
| raster | its almost like half the world has already dug a grave for nokia and put the headstone in | 11:07 |
| timeless | raster: years ago | 11:07 |
| raster | but another small group are cheering them on in their new microsoft embrace | 11:07 |
| timeless | and with good reason | 11:07 |
| timeless | who's cheering? | 11:07 |
| *** ckandeler has joined #meego | 11:07 | |
| Dijit | timeless: it should all be contained in filelists | 11:07 |
| dazo | timeless: if you're interested in the filenames, then the filelists.xml.gz is a good thing ... except of that, no point | 11:07 |
| raster | and tyhe rest just dont know what to make of it all and are going to just buy some non-nokia thing anyway | 11:07 |
| Dijit | there is a repodata file | 11:07 |
| *** Perry_Platypus has quit IRC | 11:07 | |
| Dijit | (or there should be) | 11:07 |
| raster | its a hyper-polarising thing is seems | 11:08 |
| raster | and seems mostly negative | 11:08 |
| raster | \:( | 11:08 |
| raster | poor nokia enignerrs | 11:08 |
| raster | nice shock just for the weekend | 11:08 |
| odin_ | if they are familiar with the rpm repo, could they fix that drpm issue bug#10113 | 11:08 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10113 nor, Medium, ---, qiang.z.zhang, REOP, applydeltarpm failed | 11:08 |
| dazo | timeless: another approach is to look at the yum python code ... that might do what you're looking for | 11:08 |
| Dijit | dazo: I was thinking that | 11:08 |
| lbt | timeless: pong | 11:09 |
| timeless | dazo: the question is, am i better served by actually reading repomd.xml, calculating filelist's path and then reading + parsing it | 11:09 |
| timeless | dijit / dazo: the goal is to collect *all* rpm's assuming there's only one ver of a given package in the repo space | 11:10 |
| lpotter | raster: rumors of Nokia's death are greatly exaggerated | 11:10 |
| lbt | timeless: hmm you want a pkg DB ? | 11:10 |
| timeless | lbt: /query | 11:10 |
| raster | lpotter: nokia wont die | 11:10 |
| raster | its too big to just impode overnight | 11:10 |
| *** mauricelynch has joined #meego | 11:10 | |
| raster | implode | 11:10 |
| jonwil | Last I read, xda-developers LOVES the new MS-Nokia deal | 11:10 |
| lbt | we are talking about pushing REVS onto meego.com this sprint | 11:10 |
| Stskeeps | guys, nokia death etc -> #meego-bar | 11:11 |
| ruskie | :) | 11:11 |
| raster | but the question is... will nokia ever regain even a semblance of its marketshare, dominance and profitability as a result of this decision? | 11:11 |
| alterego | Heh | 11:11 |
| raster | stfair enough :) | 11:11 |
| raster | Stskeeps: fair enough :) | 11:11 |
| lpotter | raster: yes; meego | 11:11 |
| Dijit | raster: I think it will. | 11:11 |
| raster | -> bar | 11:12 |
| *** niqt has joined #meego | 11:12 | |
| Dijit | it's just opened another playform for itself | 11:12 |
| dazo | timeless: well, the repomd.xml should only contain an overview over the files with package information available in the repo .... so to get packages, you must at least parse primary.xml.gz, iirc | 11:12 |
| *** MacMiller has joined #meego | 11:12 | |
| timeless | dazo: what's a primary? | 11:13 |
| *** ottela has joined #meego | 11:13 | |
| dazo | timeless: primary.xml.gz should contain the core packages available in the repository | 11:14 |
| dazo | it's kind of the primary database | 11:14 |
| timeless | dazo: but not actually the filenames? | 11:14 |
| dazo | timeless: not of the files inside the packages | 11:15 |
| timeless | i only care about the rpm file names, not the contents | 11:15 |
| timeless | i get to discover the contents when i extract the rpm's... | 11:15 |
| dazo | timeless: then you'll find that in the primary.xml.gz | 11:15 |
| timeless | all that interests me is a *reliable* way to get all rpm's from a given meego "release" | 11:16 |
| mauricelynch | Has anyone installed Evolution 2.32 on MeeGo 1.1? | 11:16 |
| Dijit | isn't evolution a bit heavy for a mobile device? | 11:16 |
| Mek | primary.xml.gz and/or primary.sqlite(.gz?) | 11:16 |
| mauricelynch | yes but I want just try it | 11:16 |
| dazo | timeless: in the primary.xml.gz ... //metadata/package/location should contain that | 11:16 |
| Dijit | hmm, mauricelynch you'll need a lot of gnome stuff | 11:17 |
| *** jrocha has quit IRC | 11:17 | |
| Dijit | since evolution gnome | 11:17 |
| timeless | ok, it seems to | 11:17 |
| Dijit | but I'm pretty sure it's new ground | 11:17 |
| Dijit | evolution is gnome* | 11:17 |
| * timeless tries to decide if that's more or less efficient than just using the listing from the other level | 11:17 | |
| *** tackat has joined #meego | 11:18 | |
| *** ACadambi has left #meego | 11:19 | |
| timeless | dazo: so... a quick skim shows that the data it has is really mostly worthless | 11:19 |
| dazo | timeless: the XML is a fixed format ... if you just base it on a file listing of files, you're depended that the web server always allows file listing + that it doesn't change the way the files are listed ... some web servers might change the layout, which changes the HTML you'll need to parse ... unless you're using ftp | 11:20 |
| timeless | dazo: the web server layout has changed probably a dozen times already | 11:20 |
| timeless | but the problem is that its depth and general paths have changed | 11:20 |
| *** javispedro has joined #meego | 11:20 | |
| timeless | meaning that even if i had an algorithm for parsing a repodata/, it would have been useless | 11:20 |
| timeless | as for directory listing, do you think it's likely that meego would turn it off? | 11:21 |
| dazo | yeah, when the base URL changes, there's no way to "fix" that automagically | 11:21 |
| *** fnordianslip has quit IRC | 11:21 | |
| timeless | the wonderful thing about distributed (repositories|version control) is that there are an infinite number of possible locations | 11:21 |
| timeless | ... | 11:21 |
| RST38h | hey raster | 11:22 |
| *** vasvlad has quit IRC | 11:22 | |
| raster | RST38h: boo | 11:22 |
| *** Richrd has joined #meego | 11:22 | |
| bergie | timeless: depends on the repo you're working with, for the community OBS we're setting up OCS API | 11:22 |
| *** vasvlad has joined #meego | 11:22 | |
| *** gaveen has quit IRC | 11:22 | |
| RST38h | raster: not making an announcement at the MWC? now feels like the right time, if any... =) | 11:22 |
| timeless | bergie: i don't speak geek. accept-languages: en-US, en-US-perl | 11:22 |
| timeless | what's OCS? | 11:23 |
| dazo | timeless: I don't know if meego server admins will change their mind to turn of dir listing ... but that's a real risk ... but for yum to work, it will always look for specific files, which defines which files is to be found in the repository, so I consider this a safer path in the long run | 11:23 |
| bergie | timeless: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/open-collaboration-services | 11:23 |
| bergie | we have the same available for Maemo Downloads | 11:23 |
| timeless | bergie: that's geek-greek | 11:24 |
| dazo | :) | 11:24 |
| timeless | where's the human readable executive summary? | 11:25 |
| timeless | apropos (?) | 11:25 |
| bergie | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Collaboration_Services | 11:25 |
| raster | RST38h: limo went and annoinced limo4 - efl part of its spec | 11:25 |
| raster | :) | 11:25 |
| timeless | to quote Luke "what a piece of junk" | 11:25 |
| lbt | bergie: we have a package DB in Nokia called REVS | 11:26 |
| lbt | it is designed to hold authoritative info to be used for release reporting | 11:26 |
| * timeless shrugs | 11:27 | |
| raster | voom voom | 11:27 |
| bergie | lbt: ok, we track only community-made packages anyway :-) | 11:27 |
| lbt | ie a diff of this weeks release vs last weeks | 11:27 |
| Guest41481 | what 's new on MWC? | 11:27 |
| timeless | i don't see a commandline @ lbt http://www.socialdesktop.org/library/ | 11:27 |
| lbt | bergie: ok- that's good | 11:27 |
| timeless | which from my perspective makes it relatively useless | 11:27 |
| timeless | i'm not going to write my daemon in php | 11:27 |
| *** vaughan has joined #meego | 11:27 | |
| timeless | nor am i going to use Qt | 11:28 |
| bergie | timeless: curl is your command line ;-) | 11:28 |
| lbt | bergie: but I'm hoping to push/support builds on top of meego | 11:28 |
| lbt | timeless: REST? | 11:28 |
| timeless | bergie: yes, i'm using curl | 11:28 |
| *** vaughan is now known as Guest15428 | 11:28 | |
| timeless | lbt: if i have to write a huge parser engine to deal w/ OCS, then it's a waste of my time | 11:28 |
| timeless | i'd rather crawl to HEL and back | 11:28 |
| * dazo wonders what's the point of going one extra step, to end up in practically the same place | 11:28 | |
| lbt | timeless: awww | 11:28 |
| timeless | dazo: exactly | 11:28 |
| lbt | you want to grep xml... go ahead | 11:28 |
| timeless | i'm pretty sure i'm already there skipping the xml | 11:29 |
| lbt | the sane development people use json | 11:29 |
| timeless | lbt: i'm quite happy to just parse html | 11:29 |
| Mek | you can also opt for primary.sqlite instead of primary.xml for most repos :P | 11:29 |
| dazo | json == XML replacement for those struggling to understand XML implementations | 11:29 |
| lbt | I was offerering you a "curl http://all_packages_in_release_X" | 11:29 |
| * dazo hides | 11:29 | |
| *** kimmok has joined #meego | 11:29 | |
| lbt | timeless: yeah ... welcome to the 90's | 11:29 |
| timeless | lbt: via revs? | 11:29 |
| lbt | timeless: yes | 11:30 |
| lbt | that's the point of it | 11:30 |
| timeless | lbt: hey, i grew up there, it was a nice peaceful place | 11:30 |
| timeless | lbt: i'll let someone drop that in when it arrives | 11:30 |
| lbt | to provide a consistent API to MeeGo-ish package data | 11:30 |
| timeless | that sounds tolerably usable | 11:30 |
| timeless | OCS seems like an utter waste of effort | 11:30 |
| lbt | I want to ensure it doesn't clash with bergie's work | 11:30 |
| *** jd has joined #meego | 11:30 | |
| lbt | OCS is about as much use to you as openGL | 11:31 |
| lbt | doesn't mean it's not relevant to other people | 11:31 |
| lbt | so don't be so offensive | 11:31 |
| bergie | lbt: the OCS stuff is mainly intended for "app store"-like clients | 11:31 |
| bergie | it could be used for reporting, but that isn't really the intended purpose | 11:31 |
| *** jd is now known as Jade | 11:31 | |
| timeless | s/of/of *my*/ | 11:31 |
| infobot | timeless meant: OCS seems like an utter waste of *my* effort | 11:31 |
| lbt | bergie: yeah - I wasn't sure how REVS/OCS would interact (if at all) | 11:32 |
| lbt | quim had an issue on one bug report | 11:32 |
| lbt | and it makes sense just to check | 11:32 |
| timeless | lbt: yeah, the comparison w/ openGL is pretty accurate | 11:32 |
| lbt | especially since REVS may now watch community areas if I get my way (which is not likely) | 11:33 |
| *** jonwil has quit IRC | 11:33 | |
| *** jrocha has joined #meego | 11:34 | |
| mauricelynch | Dijit: Thanks :) | 11:34 |
| *** lardman has joined #meego | 11:34 | |
| *** lardman has joined #meego | 11:34 | |
| timeless | yeah, that's also a problem | 11:34 |
| timeless | i'm not interested in implementing something that only covers 30-70% of a problem space | 11:35 |
| timeless | if i have to do something else for the other side, and that something else works on both sides, then, it's just extra effort for no gain | 11:35 |
| sivang | morning | 11:36 |
| sivang | timeless: what are you implementing? :) | 11:36 |
| timeless | sivang: same thing i'm always implementing :) | 11:36 |
| *** zeddii has quit IRC | 11:36 | |
| sivang | timeless: microb/firefox? | 11:36 |
| timeless | pbbt | 11:37 |
| * sivang googles | 11:37 | |
| sivang | http://www.pbbt.com/pbbt.shtml ? | 11:37 |
| *** lardman has quit IRC | 11:38 | |
| *** markey has quit IRC | 11:40 | |
| *** Robten has quit IRC | 11:40 | |
| *** ismael has joined #meego | 11:41 | |
| *** gemfield has quit IRC | 11:42 | |
| *** markey has joined #meego | 11:42 | |
| *** achipa has joined #meego | 11:42 | |
| *** achipa has quit IRC | 11:42 | |
| *** achipa has joined #meego | 11:42 | |
| RST38h | raster: LiMo is nice but will we see open devices with it at the MWC? | 11:42 |
| RST38h | XML == bunch of non-programmers reinventing hierarchical data storage and predictably failing at it | 11:43 |
| *** milliams has joined #meego | 11:43 | |
| RST38h | Hence json. | 11:43 |
| raster | RST38h: can't say :) | 11:44 |
| RST38h | raster <== positively evil | 11:44 |
| raster | i just dont like xml because its verbose as all bejesus... | 11:44 |
| raster | and requires PARSING | 11:44 |
| raster | i hate parsing | 11:44 |
| RST38h | raster: If you do not like XML, check out XPath, XSLT, XSD, etc | 11:45 |
| raster | why people arent happy with nice container binary formats i dont know :) | 11:45 |
| raster | eg | 11:45 |
| raster | HEAD | 11:45 |
| raster | SIZE | 11:45 |
| raster | DATA | 11:45 |
| *** Faither has joined #meego | 11:45 | |
| raster | DATA | 11:45 |
| raster | ... | 11:45 |
| *** jarkko^ has quit IRC | 11:45 | |
| raster | HEAD | 11:45 |
| raster | SIZE | 11:45 |
| raster | DATA | 11:45 |
| raster | .. | 11:45 |
| raster | etc. | 11:45 |
| raster | and just let u ned them | 11:45 |
| *** ahiemstra has quit IRC | 11:45 | |
| *** ahiemstra has joined #meego | 11:45 | |
| RST38h | raster: And if your stomach is still full, check the available tools, THAT inevitably causes people to throw up | 11:45 |
| *** guesto has joined #meego | 11:46 | |
| raster | any element of a list can be insta-skipped by just movign forward SIZE bytes :) | 11:46 |
| RST38h | raster: You are describing IFF format (Hello, AmigaOS) | 11:46 |
| raster | u can also throw in tag names into the data segment trivially | 11:46 |
| raster | RST38h: indeed i am :) | 11:46 |
| raster | what do u think i grew up on? :) | 11:46 |
| RST38h | Yes, it is one way to store hierarchical data (also see SNMP, XRDB, and to some degree .INI files) | 11:47 |
| raster | my trusty a500 | 11:47 |
| raster | and before that c64's and vic20's | 11:47 |
| raster | :) | 11:47 |
| RST38h | A2000 then A3000 here | 11:47 |
| raster | oh hyper high-end | 11:47 |
| RST38h | Unfortunately, non-geeks do not understand this binary crap, they like little roman letters and cute brackets :) | 11:47 |
| javispedro | cute? | 11:48 |
| RST38h | raster: Bought both used, for relatively cheap | 11:48 |
| *** kidproquo has quit IRC | 11:48 | |
| raster | RST38h: just provide a compielr/decompiler :) | 11:48 |
| raster | RST38h: used... damn. i had to get my s500 new in 88 | 11:48 |
| raster | err a500 | 11:48 |
| raster | not cheap | 11:49 |
| RST38h | I used MSX in 88 | 11:49 |
| RST38h | And a bunch of self-made machines immediately after that | 11:49 |
| raster | msx | 11:50 |
| raster | god.. wow | 11:50 |
| raster | niche! | 11:50 |
| *** zeddii has joined #meego | 11:50 | |
| RST38h | Maybe niche where you were, but not in .SU | 11:50 |
| RST38h | Amiga was rather niche there though, mostly owned by musicians and video studios | 11:51 |
| *** mauricelynch has quit IRC | 11:51 | |
| raster | hmmm | 11:51 |
| raster | non-globalized world back then | 11:51 |
| *** mauricelynch has joined #meego | 11:51 | |
| raster | :) | 11:51 |
| ab | yep, MSX were almost everywhere, along with PDP-10/11 offsprings | 11:51 |
| raster | not in au | 11:52 |
| raster | i had heard of them | 11:52 |
| raster | never seen one | 11:52 |
| RST38h | ab: There even was a PDP-11-compatible pocket calculator! | 11:52 |
| Tm_T | Memotech <3 | 11:52 |
| ab | :) | 11:52 |
| RST38h | ab: http://www.computer-museum.ru/histussr/mk_85_1.htm | 11:53 |
| ab | RST38h, yep, actually worked with that circa 86 | 11:54 |
| RST38h | ab: I still have it back in the US. | 11:54 |
| raster | tho back in 80's the amiga (a1000, a500) did run rings around the msx in hw | 11:54 |
| raster | u didnt get much better than those 2 back then | 11:54 |
| RST38h | raster: Yes, but it also was not imported in such huge numbers | 11:54 |
| raster | yeah | 11:54 |
| raster | shame it didnt get a big enough following | 11:55 |
| raster | anyway | 11:55 |
| raster | iff was good :) | 11:55 |
| ab | in 80ies I was mostly playing with BK-0010/11, Corvette and MSX | 11:55 |
| RST38h | raster: While the ministry of education imported hundreds of Yamaha YIS503s | 11:55 |
| raster | i have ever since been influence by it :) | 11:55 |
| raster | eet is very iff-ey | 11:55 |
| raster | with well... some zippiness thrown in | 11:55 |
| RST38h | raster: IFF is still being used, just not hyped | 11:55 |
| raster | and crammed into a shared lib with an api so u can forget about the format of goop | 11:56 |
| *** gabor has joined #meego | 11:56 | |
| raster | and also decompile/compile to and from text too | 11:56 |
| raster | it lets me fire and forget for data storage and loading | 11:56 |
| raster | and i also get to not worry about performance :) | 11:56 |
| *** Khertan has joined #meego | 11:57 | |
| timeless | ok, i now have a script which can identify files from 1.0, 1.1, and turnk | 11:58 |
| timeless | s/turnk/trunk/ | 11:58 |
| infobot | timeless meant: ok, i now have a script which can identify files from 1.0, 1.1, and trunk | 11:58 |
| *** slaine has joined #meego | 11:58 | |
| RST38h | raster: About the guy who developed AmigaOS: ""I went to see the person writing this operating system," he remembered. "We flew out to his home, where he was writing this software on a bunch of early Sun workstations. He had about four or five Suns and a big cage with a rabbit in it. And he spent a lot of time talking to the rabbit." | 11:58 |
| *** thresh has joined #meego | 11:58 | |
| timeless | heh | 11:59 |
| RST38h | Apparently, talking to a rabbit is useful, design wise. I wonder who Elop is tlaking to =) | 11:59 |
| javispedro | a dancing monkey | 12:00 |
| raster | RST38h: hhahahaha | 12:00 |
| *** talmaiMAD has joined #meego | 12:00 | |
| *** zx2c4 has joined #meego | 12:00 | |
| thresh | moroning | 12:00 |
| zx2c4 | yo | 12:00 |
| raster | i have a cat for that | 12:00 |
| talmaiMAD | hi peeps. | 12:00 |
| raster | my cat's name is malloc | 12:00 |
| RST38h | hello thresh | 12:00 |
| thresh | anyone tried meego on archos 101 tablet? | 12:00 |
| zx2c4 | so what the hells gonna happen | 12:00 |
| talmaiMAD | decided to participate in meego project since Nokia gave up | 12:00 |
| raster | most of the time he doesn't have a lot to say about making a design decision | 12:00 |
| RST38h | raster: Does he ever...mm...free? Or does he eventually dump core? | 12:00 |
| raster | except maybe "prrrrrr" | 12:00 |
| raster | RST38h: dumps core | 12:00 |
| raster | heap overrun | 12:01 |
| RST38h | Oh, condolences | 12:01 |
| raster | luckily he dumps in his sandbox | 12:01 |
| *** yugang has quit IRC | 12:01 | |
| *** gaveen has joined #meego | 12:01 | |
| raster | so its contained | 12:01 |
| raster | :) | 12:01 |
| Tm_T | zx2c4: life happens, just like every day | 12:01 |
| zx2c4 | i waited so long for meego | 12:01 |
| zx2c4 | i'm using a nokia phone from 2002 | 12:01 |
| zx2c4 | anxiously been waiting to upgrade to a meego device | 12:01 |
| zx2c4 | now what? | 12:01 |
| zx2c4 | spent time learning Qt... I don't want to learn android or objective-c | 12:02 |
| zx2c4 | what do i do? | 12:02 |
| *** mauricelynch|2 has joined #meego | 12:02 | |
| *** mauricelynch has quit IRC | 12:02 | |
| mikhas | give up. obviously learning *yet another toolkit* is just a waste of time | 12:02 |
| Tm_T | zx2c4: meego isn't going anywhere, it's still developed and used | 12:02 |
| Tm_T | zx2c4: if you really insist you need nokia device with meego, n900 is prolly the way to go | 12:03 |
| raster | could just install the x86 meego on a pc :) | 12:03 |
| raster | dont need a device | 12:03 |
| raster | :) | 12:03 |
| *** lremes has quit IRC | 12:03 | |
| *** tackat has quit IRC | 12:03 | |
| talmaiMAD | Tm_T, is Meego usable on an N900? I mean does it run smooth enough? | 12:03 |
| timeless | sivang: good job. you might be able to compete on Jeopardy :) | 12:04 |
| *** florian_kc has joined #meego | 12:04 | |
| *** florian_kc has joined #meego | 12:04 | |
| zx2c4 | I guess... I had looked forward to developing OSS mobile apps | 12:04 |
| *** tackat has joined #meego | 12:04 | |
| ab | raster, how far we are from SLP being public? | 12:04 |
| *** florian_kc is now known as florian | 12:04 | |
| Tm_T | talmaiMAD: no idea, I don't own any meego-capable device | 12:04 |
| *** kimmok has quit IRC | 12:04 | |
| raster | ab: i can tell you many things. that is one thing i cannot tell you :) you may now ask another question :) | 12:04 |
| sivang | timeless: heh :) | 12:05 |
| Tm_T | raster: there's non-sssesomething binaries available these days? | 12:05 |
| raster | (really sorry there. being open only goes so far :() | 12:05 |
| ab | raster, that's fine, I'm not really expecting you to break your contract :) | 12:05 |
| timeless | sivang: finla question. the name of the recent contestant. Please remember to state your answer in the form of a question. | 12:05 |
| timeless | s/finla/final/ | 12:05 |
| infobot | timeless meant: sivang: final question. the name of the recent contestant. Please remember to state your answer in the form of a question. | 12:05 |
| raster | i can say that we havent had any change in direction or layoffs or downsizing etc. :) its full steam ahead here. i'm getting lost in all the groups and enigneers involved | 12:06 |
| sivang | timeless: oh that is hard | 12:06 |
| raster | keep finding out about new ones al lthe time | 12:06 |
| *** leinir has joined #meego | 12:06 | |
| RST38h | raster: But do understand that in the light of the recent news, SLP looks like the only opportunity to have a decent handset | 12:06 |
| sivang | raster: working for Nokia? | 12:06 |
| * sivang googles for SLP | 12:06 | |
| ab | sivang, no, he is from Samsung's empire | 12:06 |
| raster | sivang: nahp. | 12:06 |
| RST38h | raster: So, a lot of people here will be getting restless about it just about now ;) | 12:07 |
| raster | im from the evil empire of the east | 12:07 |
| * raster throws kimchi around the channel | 12:07 | |
| timeless | raster: i don't suppose you could write 'Qt' without a capital 'T' on http://www.rasterman.com/ ? | 12:07 |
| sivang | raster: oh, I have a good friend who was a product manager in the israli branch before it got downsized heavily :-) | 12:07 |
| *** igo has quit IRC | 12:07 | |
| raster | RST38h: totally understand. it's also what i wanted. REAL linux handsets | 12:07 |
| ab | raster, I guess many people wouldn't mind if east empire would open R&D northwest ;) | 12:07 |
| RST38h | raster: write it as "qt", make him happy ;) | 12:07 |
| raster | like kernel, userspace, x11, etc. etc. | 12:07 |
| sivang | timeless: lol | 12:07 |
| timeless | oh, and then spell 'MeeGo' with a capital 'G' on the same | 12:08 |
| *** dddd has quit IRC | 12:08 | |
| sivang | raster: Qt on MeeGo :-) | 12:08 |
| raster | its all working like a charm atm. silky smooth. pretty solid "works for me" :) | 12:08 |
| *** dneary has joined #meego | 12:08 | |
| *** dneary has joined #meego | 12:08 | |
| *** Guest15428 has quit IRC | 12:08 | |
| *** kimmok has joined #meego | 12:09 | |
| raster | timeless: i could... there. happy? | 12:09 |
| dneary | hi | 12:10 |
| sivang | raster: nice, using your own crafted linux based cut right ? | 12:10 |
| dneary | Anyone know what the IRC log file format we use is? | 12:10 |
| RST38h | dneary: ASCII :) | 12:10 |
| Stskeeps | dneary: which one of the sites? | 12:10 |
| timeless | raster: dunno, is the page cached? | 12:10 |
| dneary | More specifically, is it in this list? http://code.google.com/p/superseriousstats/wiki/LogfileFormats | 12:10 |
| sivang | RST38h: lol | 12:10 |
| dneary | RST38h, They're all ascii | 12:10 |
| sivang | timeless: stop using chrom! | 12:10 |
| *** richie has joined #meego | 12:10 | |
| dneary | We're talking interchange here | 12:10 |
| sivang | timeless: :-p | 12:10 |
| * timeless wonders if this box even has chrome | 12:10 | |
| sivang | timeless: I stopped and I have a pretty life now | 12:10 |
| timeless | Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:2.0b12pre) Gecko/20110214 Firefox/4.0b12pre | 12:11 |
| Stskeeps | dneary: i think i convert to irssi format | 12:11 |
| dneary | Stskeeps, I want to get the logs parsed & into a database for analytics | 12:11 |
| dneary | Stskeeps, Cool, thanks | 12:11 |
| sivang | it happesn so that all of my browsing problem were due to Chrome. | 12:11 |
| Stskeeps | dneary: ok, that's possible | 12:11 |
| sivang | timeless: great. | 12:11 |
| *** richie has quit IRC | 12:11 | |
| sivang | timeless: embracing the change? ;) | 12:11 |
| sivang | timeless: re: os string | 12:11 |
| * sivang stops trolling | 12:11 | |
| timeless | sivang: avoiding disruption | 12:11 |
| sivang | timeless: hahah | 12:12 |
| raster | god damn silly capitalization goop | 12:12 |
| raster | there | 12:12 |
| dneary | Stskeeps, When you say "that's possible", you mean by modifying the logger, or using SSS to parse the logs? | 12:12 |
| *** bergie has quit IRC | 12:12 | |
| dneary | Stskeeps, Easiest is to use upstream standard tools that already work togetherr :) | 12:12 |
| timeless | raster: and MeeGo? :) | 12:12 |
| timeless | raster: thanks for fixing Qt | 12:12 |
| raster | sivang: yes. we have crafted our own os .. its basically debian - we rebuilt it all from scratch but its the same deb package names and content etc. for pretty much all of it | 12:13 |
| sivang | Stskeeps: any idea where latest daily image went? I wanted to see if there's a newer image and there's only the kernel left at http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/1.1.90/1.1.90.2.20110208.4/handset/images/meego-handset-armv7l-n900-devel/ | 12:13 |
| sivang | raster: not bad. | 12:13 |
| timeless | raster: sorry. personal opinion, if you're going to claim to be a serious savy person in a given domain, you should be able to properly identify the other groups in that domain | 12:13 |
| RST38h | timeless <-- obviously a wikipedian | 12:14 |
| RST38h | With the small "w" too | 12:14 |
| timeless | given that Nokia and Apple are hypothetically in a common domain and given that Apple has a product called 'QT' (and has for well over a decade), it's really not a good idea to use incorrect capitalization | 12:14 |
| *** TheOpenSourcerer has left #meego | 12:14 | |
| *** mauricelynch has joined #meego | 12:14 | |
| timeless | as for MeeGo, well.... | 12:14 |
| raster | timeless: if other groups choose bizarre capitalizations - i'm not going to go research the "right capitalization" when its irrelevant to the topic :) | 12:15 |
| *** mauricelynch|2 has quit IRC | 12:15 | |
| lpotter | I prefer m33g0 | 12:15 |
| timeless | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meego_%28TV_series%29 <- that's Meego with a lowercase G | 12:15 |
| raster | if i called evas EvAs | 12:15 |
| timeless | and again, MeeGo the family is theoretically going to be involved in the TV space | 12:15 |
| raster | and u didnt captialize it right | 12:15 |
| raster | i wouldnt give a hoot | 12:15 |
| *** rodarvus has quit IRC | 12:15 | |
| raster | it doesnt mean you know any more or less about the topic at hand :) | 12:15 |
| * Lynoure prefers Mi-Go | 12:16 | |
| *** stylesen has quit IRC | 12:16 | |
| raster | but maybe thats just me | 12:16 |
| timeless | is that Ethylene Vinyl Acetate ? | 12:16 |
| *** rodarvus has joined #meego | 12:16 | |
| *** rodarvus has joined #meego | 12:16 | |
| sivang | raster: it is going to be completely open source including drivers and everything? | 12:16 |
| raster | i've learned that a boosk cover is more often than not far from the reality of its content | 12:16 |
| sivang | raster: you'd be surprised to learn how much good strings make you look professional and polished. | 12:16 |
| raster | i've interviewed enough candidates to notice a trend | 12:16 |
| *** Tsarpf has joined #meego | 12:16 | |
| raster | the better the dressed | 12:16 |
| raster | ties, suits.. nice shiny shoes | 12:16 |
| raster | the less they knew | 12:16 |
| *** javiF has quit IRC | 12:17 | |
| raster | the more useless they were | 12:17 |
| Lynoure | raster: I wonder what you'd make of me =) | 12:17 |
| raster | it was a pretty strong trend after having maybe interviewed 40 or 50 | 12:17 |
| raster | this was at an investment bank though | 12:17 |
| sivang | raster: some companies have a code of conduct for attire | 12:17 |
| raster | so who knows :) | 12:17 |
| raster | Svendsen: open source what can be made open source | 12:17 |
| raster | cant control 3rd party drivers | 12:17 |
| *** achipa has quit IRC | 12:18 | |
| raster | eg opengl libs - there are zero open drivers for arm soc's | 12:18 |
| *** Moku has quit IRC | 12:18 | |
| raster | for those | 12:18 |
| raster | if u have an nvidia tegra2 | 12:18 |
| raster | u wont be shipping any source for opengl | 12:18 |
| *** laitiju has joined #meego | 12:18 | |
| raster | same with any thing with an SGX | 12:18 |
| raster | or mali | 12:18 |
| RST38h | Ah, who cares, just ship stable binary drivers | 12:18 |
| raster | or qualcomm too | 12:18 |
| timeless | raster: what did you do at the bank? | 12:18 |
| RST38h | As long as they WORK! | 12:18 |
| raster | timeless: unix architect | 12:18 |
| raster | in tokyo | 12:19 |
| raster | for the asia region | 12:19 |
| timeless | candidates were local? | 12:19 |
| *** _berto_ has quit IRC | 12:19 | |
| raster | they were almost entirely westerners who happned to be in tokyo | 12:19 |
| *** _berto_ has joined #meego | 12:19 | |
| timeless | ok | 12:19 |
| raster | the place was peerry much western | 12:19 |
| raster | like 80%+ | 12:19 |
| timeless | wow | 12:20 |
| *** dkod has quit IRC | 12:20 | |
| raster | full of poms, aussies, yanks, cehnucks, french... and some japanese :) | 12:21 |
| RST38h | raster: sounds delicious | 12:21 |
| sivang | RST38h: food fusion? | 12:22 |
| raster | hahahahah | 12:22 |
| * timeless didn't recognize poms=british | 12:22 | |
| raster | it wasnt a bad place | 12:22 |
| *** dkod has joined #meego | 12:22 | |
| raster | it was heavily built on linux | 12:22 |
| raster | trading farm and server infra all linux boxen | 12:23 |
| *** baraujo has joined #meego | 12:23 | |
| raster | with some dwindling sun boxen getting the boot | 12:23 |
| *** lardman|gone is now known as lardman | 12:26 | |
| timeless | so, who suggested i look at repodata? | 12:26 |
| *** wliao has quit IRC | 12:26 | |
| timeless | afaict repodata doesn't actually give me much useful info | 12:26 |
| timeless | e.g. http://repo.m2.org/MeeGo/updates/1.0/core/repos/source/repodata/7bf577c2ed3ce0bf4c9a7c101ba2898544b73ef0c4b60e3e9dc645f427f1b7a0-primary.xml.gz shows 2 versions of Qt | 12:27 |
| sivang | http://blogs.nokia.com/nseries/ | 12:27 |
| timeless | which means i'm stuck figuring out which one i'd actually want | 12:27 |
| timeless | sivang: nseries isn't dead yet? | 12:27 |
| dneary | Hi raster | 12:27 |
| sivang | timeless: look at the date | 12:28 |
| sivang | 15.02.2011 | 12:28 |
| dneary | raster, Is EFL being used on MeeGo, or is there a potential Linaro hook-up, or are you just in here to gloat? ;) | 12:28 |
| smoku | raster, there is an open driver for snapdragon 3D. not from qualcom though ;-) | 12:28 |
| raster | dneary: dave! wassap! | 12:29 |
| dneary | stuff | 12:29 |
| sivang | heh | 12:29 |
| raster | dneary: i've been lurking here for a while | 12:29 |
| dneary | I hear Intel are showing off a table this year - codename "bitter pill" | 12:29 |
| raster | dneary: not glaoting - more here just to see wassap in meego-land | 12:30 |
| dneary | tableT | 12:30 |
| *** stylesen has joined #meego | 12:30 | |
| Stskeeps | dneary: i wouldn't mind a table running MeeGo.. | 12:30 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:30 |
| dneary | Things are going swimmingly, thanks for asking :) | 12:30 |
| sivang | me too | 12:30 |
| raster | smoku: thats my point. someone reverse enigneered.. some of it at least | 12:30 |
| *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC | 12:30 | |
| * sivang goes to fetch old daily from laptop | 12:30 | |
| raster | probablky not a full driver | 12:30 |
| raster | i know the kernel bits are open for qcm stuff and powervr stuff | 12:31 |
| raster | for nvidia too as i gather | 12:31 |
| raster | but userspace for all is closed | 12:31 |
| *** sergiusens has quit IRC | 12:31 | |
| dneary | Stskeeps, Reminds me of this project: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2oMmCyiJZA | 12:31 |
| *** sergiusens has joined #meego | 12:31 | |
| raster | dneary: awesome. | 12:31 |
| dneary | raster, How about where you are? LiMo 4 announced today, I see | 12:31 |
| raster | dneary: all is going swimmingly here | 12:32 |
| raster | more a problem of being able to keep up | 12:32 |
| raster | too much stuff happening | 12:32 |
| *** zx2c4 has left #meego | 12:32 | |
| raster | indeed limo4 was announced | 12:32 |
| dneary | raster, Great! Looks like Samsung basically still-born Bada though... haven't heard a thing about it in a year | 12:32 |
| raster | tho that isnt in and of itself anything that interesting | 12:32 |
| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: get an Archos101. the first units were shipped with a letter missing ;) | 12:32 |
| dneary | Interesting in the context of Samsung staying committed to the LiMo route... | 12:33 |
| raster | what would be is an actual product launching with a decent linux on it with an sdk that you can actually buy and use and hack away at :) | 12:33 |
| dneary | You are an ambitious little boy, aren't you? | 12:33 |
| dneary | Why, if you wanted that, you'd have to use Android ;) | 12:33 |
| raster | lucky for me i am surrounded by such little beauties with their friendly little glowing screens giving me a moon-tan :) | 12:34 |
| dneary | hehe | 12:34 |
| dneary | Anyway... more work! | 12:34 |
| dneary | Bye | 12:34 |
| thresh | dm8tbr: how does one run meego on archos 101 ? | 12:35 |
| thresh | dm8tbr: I happen to have one here :) | 12:35 |
| dm8tbr | thresh: well, so far we're not thaaat far yet. step one is to install the SDE enabler firmware | 12:36 |
| *** achipa has joined #meego | 12:36 | |
| *** achipa has joined #meego | 12:36 | |
| dm8tbr | core somewhat worked but I'd need to check again for watchdogs etc. | 12:36 |
| dm8tbr | others are working on the SGX driver | 12:36 |
| dm8tbr | sadly no joy with the n900 backports | 12:37 |
| dm8tbr | so we're hoping bug 5616 goes magically away or that the sgx core on 36xx silicon is not hit by it... | 12:37 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5616 nor, Undecided, 1.0.80.15, fathi.boudra, ASSI, Certain fonts are garbled | 12:37 |
| dm8tbr | I'm sure the tablet UX will give this a push | 12:38 |
| dm8tbr | so we're waiting for those sources to happen too | 12:38 |
| Khertan | http://twitter.com/#!/limofoundation/statuses/37247936605724672 <<< hihi | 12:38 |
| Khertan | limofoundation: LiMo hopes to gain from Nokia-Microsoft pact - http://tinyurl.com/6jg825w | 12:38 |
| *** TerrIn has quit IRC | 12:39 | |
| *** TerrIn has joined #meego | 12:39 | |
| *** Fl3x has joined #meego | 12:42 | |
| *** marcob has joined #meego | 12:43 | |
| *** toniher has joined #meego | 12:44 | |
| *** blitz00 has joined #meego | 12:45 | |
| *** achipa has quit IRC | 12:45 | |
| *** toniher has quit IRC | 12:45 | |
| *** ramkrsna has quit IRC | 12:46 | |
| *** lcuk has joined #meego | 12:46 | |
| *** lcuk has quit IRC | 12:46 | |
| *** lcuk has joined #meego | 12:46 | |
| *** achipa has joined #meego | 12:46 | |
| *** achipa has joined #meego | 12:46 | |
| *** ramkrsna has joined #meego | 12:46 | |
| *** mlin has quit IRC | 12:47 | |
| *** arvind_khadri has joined #meego | 12:49 | |
| timeless | dneary: so, who do i have to bribe to get meego.com to use www.? | 12:49 |
| timeless | not using www. means that i can't do site: w/ google | 12:49 |
| dneary | timeless, I'd ask Mike Shaver | 12:49 |
| dneary | Or Elliot Smith | 12:49 |
| dneary | lbt or X-Fade would know better than me, though | 12:49 |
| *** Moku has joined #meego | 12:50 | |
| timeless | also, anyone know why http://meego.com/users gives some user? | 12:50 |
| dneary | And there are some Nokia people on that team too, but I never see them out in daylighht | 12:50 |
| *** CosmoHill has joined #meego | 12:50 | |
| dneary | timeless, Yes, yes I do. | 12:50 |
| *** TerrIn has quit IRC | 12:50 | |
| timeless | dneary: that's because we don't have daylight here :( | 12:51 |
| *** TerrIn has joined #meego | 12:51 | |
| lbt | timeless: do you seriously think that that is a good use of our time right now? | 12:51 |
| timeless | dneary: cool, why? | 12:51 |
| dneary | The arctic circle would be a great place to be a vampire | 12:51 |
| * lbt starts ignoring irc highlights | 12:51 | |
| *** MoRpHeUz has joined #meego | 12:51 | |
| *** MoRpHeUz has joined #meego | 12:51 | |
| *** niku_ has quit IRC | 12:51 | |
| dneary | timeless, It's a secret | 12:51 |
| timeless | hey, i didn't nick highlight you, that was dneary ! | 12:52 |
| dneary | timeless, You asked me a question that I can't answer, I pointed you at the better person | 12:52 |
| dneary | Not my fault he's grumpy. /cc lbt | 12:52 |
| *** ptlo_ has joined #meego | 12:52 | |
| timeless | dneary: yeah, nothing wrong w/ that | 12:52 |
| *** alvaro__ has joined #meego | 12:52 | |
| *** topeira has joined #meego | 12:53 | |
| *** topeira has joined #meego | 12:53 | |
| *** ptlo has quit IRC | 12:53 | |
| * timeless is just trying to find max | 12:53 | |
| *** Al_Cho has quit IRC | 12:53 | |
| timeless | grr, is there a plan to get openid login to work the way it does at sane sites? like sf.net | 12:54 |
| *** TerrIn has quit IRC | 12:54 | |
| timeless | expecting me to know how to spell my openid url is just mean :( | 12:54 |
| *** psycho_oreos has joined #meego | 12:55 | |
| * timeless wonders if there's an openid extension for firefoxx | 12:55 | |
| timeless | s/xx/x/ | 12:55 |
| *** yanshuang has quit IRC | 12:55 | |
| dneary | timeless, Can you find any user account older that 52 weeks & 12 hours? | 12:56 |
| dneary | (mshaver is older... that's that theory blown out of the water) | 12:56 |
| *** jonwil has joined #meego | 12:57 | |
| timeless | dneary: i can't find a search ui that has anything remotely sane | 12:57 |
| *** NishanthMenon has quit IRC | 12:57 | |
| timeless | http://meego.com/search/node/ivanov in advanced doesn't offer 'user' as a search choice | 12:58 |
| timeless | but no, i can't find shaver or mshaver | 12:58 |
| dneary | users/mshaver | 12:58 |
| timeless | well, sure, if i knew the user name i wouldn't need to go searching for it | 12:59 |
| timeless | ... | 12:59 |
| * timeless is starving | 12:59 | |
| * timeless should go looking for breakfast | 12:59 | |
| dneary | I dunno - maybe userid 42 is chosen by default in Drupal if you go to /users | 12:59 |
| timeless | heh | 12:59 |
| *** javiF has joined #meego | 12:59 | |
| dneary | And a user search for shaver gives mshaver | 12:59 |
| *** halvors has joined #meego | 13:00 | |
| * timeless wonders how to find a user search | 13:00 | |
| *** Moku has quit IRC | 13:01 | |
| *** x_O has quit IRC | 13:02 | |
| *** x_O has joined #meego | 13:02 | |
| *** CosmoHill has quit IRC | 13:03 | |
| *** GeneralAntilles1 has joined #meego | 13:03 | |
| *** KevinB has joined #meego | 13:03 | |
| *** GeneralAntilles has quit IRC | 13:03 | |
| *** vasvlad has quit IRC | 13:05 | |
| *** niku_ has joined #meego | 13:05 | |
| *** vasvlad has joined #meego | 13:05 | |
| *** Kevin_B has joined #meego | 13:06 | |
| *** achipa has quit IRC | 13:06 | |
| *** CosmoHill has joined #meego | 13:07 | |
| *** chemfy has joined #meego | 13:07 | |
| *** KevinB has quit IRC | 13:08 | |
| *** schend has joined #meego | 13:08 | |
| *** chemfy_ has quit IRC | 13:08 | |
| *** sergiusens has quit IRC | 13:10 | |
| *** NishanthMenon has joined #meego | 13:10 | |
| *** mwichmann has joined #meego | 13:11 | |
| *** glin has quit IRC | 13:12 | |
| *** Hardeep has joined #meego | 13:13 | |
| *** aholler_ is now known as aholler | 13:14 | |
| *** Hardeep has left #meego | 13:15 | |
| *** kimitake_idle is now known as kimitake | 13:16 | |
| *** Hardeep has joined #meego | 13:18 | |
| *** jjardon has joined #meego | 13:18 | |
| *** jrocha has quit IRC | 13:19 | |
| *** Moku has joined #meego | 13:20 | |
| Hardeep | okay I am dying of confusion here... can someone explain what the difference between the pre-alfa meego tablet ui and intel mego ui is? The intel on looks like it went backwards in functionality. There is no longer that arrow to open the "icon's home page". | 13:20 |
| Hardeep | etc | 13:20 |
| timeless | dneary: where is this mystical user search ui? :(( | 13:20 |
| Stskeeps | Hardeep: press windows key | 13:20 |
| dneary | timeless, You pointed me to it yourself. The User tab above the search box | 13:20 |
| dneary | Hardeep, I imagine that many stability issues were addressed, the touch has improved considerably, and some new apps are available | 13:21 |
| Hardeep | Stskeeps: I'm not sure if we are talking about the same thing. I'm referencing the tablet UIs | 13:21 |
| dneary | But I'm hasarding a guess | 13:21 |
| Stskeeps | Hardeep: yes, but i don't know what you mean by "icon's home page" :P | 13:21 |
| timeless | dneary: did not. the ui there is so bad that i didn't realize 'users' existed or wasn't highlighted | 13:21 |
| lcuk | Hardeep, applications evolve. what device do you have the earlier version installed on? | 13:22 |
| timeless | thanks though | 13:22 |
| dneary | timeless, In search, there's "pages" and "users" or something like that | 13:22 |
| * javispedro ponders if the reason they use the Super key as "key" is because his s10-3t front keys module used Super. | 13:22 | |
| *** bergie has joined #meego | 13:22 | |
| Hardeep | watch at 1:42 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVIKYF7MOzU they switch to the page mode I'm talking about | 13:22 |
| timeless | dneary: yeah, when you pointed me to it again, i saw 'users' | 13:23 |
| *** jarkko^ has joined #meego | 13:23 | |
| timeless | that "tab" ui is horribly broken | 13:23 |
| *** achipa has joined #meego | 13:23 | |
| *** achipa has quit IRC | 13:23 | |
| *** achipa has joined #meego | 13:23 | |
| Hardeep | Stskeeps: were you able to figure out what I mean? | 13:24 |
| Stskeeps | Hardeep: not exactly, but did you try to install the ux? | 13:24 |
| lcuk | Hardeep, I would say get a diff of both versions, but since you have not got the original (ie vapourware) the best/simplest would be to file a feature request to put it back "because you saw it on a video" | 13:25 |
| *** Aparna has quit IRC | 13:26 | |
| treebeen | http://www.youtube.com/user/MeeGoZone#p/u/1/6ukQdlkmSDA | 13:26 |
| *** merlin1991 has joined #meego | 13:26 | |
| Hardeep | lcuk: so its safe to assume it was removed? I have read that Intel is keeping only the scrolling view | 13:27 |
| *** merlin1991 has quit IRC | 13:27 | |
| Hardeep | panel mode* | 13:27 |
| lcuk | Hardeep, you have the released code in front of you | 13:27 |
| lcuk | just like any development process things evolve, if you care about this feature, chase it. | 13:28 |
| *** tackat has quit IRC | 13:28 | |
| Hardeep | lcuk: fair enough seems I will have to investigate further. I was just being optimistic that someone knew if it was scrapped. I have been following meego for a while however I have not got into any technical details | 13:28 |
| forcer | Hardeep: have you thought about why it was scrapped? I don't think they would do it without reason | 13:29 |
| Hardeep | Thanks god for the community and the other players in meego because Nokia just ripped my heart in half :( | 13:30 |
| forcer | Hardeep: elop did, not nokia :) | 13:30 |
| Hardeep | focer: yes elop* did sorry | 13:30 |
| lcuk | in other things, is that carrypad resistive? the guy is using his fingernail | 13:31 |
| *** snowpong has joined #meego | 13:32 | |
| Hardeep | lcuk: he appears to be using the edge of his fingers | 13:32 |
| Hardeep | luck: looks more like a capacitive scree,n | 13:33 |
| lcuk | bah, at fosdem, my ideapad would not work outside because of capacitive | 13:33 |
| *** achipa has quit IRC | 13:34 | |
| arfoll | lcuk, why would it not work outside? | 13:35 |
| timeless | lcuk: too mmuch moisture? | 13:35 |
| lofty306 | what pkg system meego usse? | 13:35 |
| Hardeep | lcuk: yes unfortunately most of these companies use the capacitive screens now just the way of the future my friend | 13:35 |
| timeless | lofty306: rpm | 13:35 |
| * lofty306 bangs head on kb | 13:35 | |
| lcuk | temperature I guess, it went very spotty and unresponsive, but back inside it was fine | 13:36 |
| arfoll | i've never had a problem outside with my nexus one's screen... | 13:36 |
| arfoll | i think blaming it on capacitive screens would be going a little far ;-) | 13:36 |
| Kevin_B | hi all, | 13:36 |
| Hardeep | :) | 13:36 |
| lcuk | Hardeep, if we rest on low resolution input being a way of the future then I will be saddened. | 13:36 |
| lcuk | it is nice to have and good in some respects, but it is a step backwards in others. | 13:37 |
| lofty306 | you serious timakima ? | 13:37 |
| lofty306 | ack | 13:37 |
| lofty306 | you serious timeless | 13:37 |
| Hardeep | lcuk: are there any alternatives you suggest? | 13:37 |
| Kevin_B | when u think the next handset device running meego, will b released? | 13:38 |
| lcuk | Hardeep, my N900 laughs at the puny cold. | 13:38 |
| *** raster has quit IRC | 13:38 | |
| lcuk | there are other high resolution input devices which may be suitable for a dual layer input method | 13:38 |
| *** srag has quit IRC | 13:38 | |
| lcuk | low resolution capacitive with high resolution stylus | 13:39 |
| Hardeep | lcuk: lol because the N900 is a fantastic device | 13:39 |
| timeless | lofty306: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=meego+package+format+rpm | 13:39 |
| *** srag has joined #meego | 13:39 | |
| lofty306 | ?nice timeless | 13:39 |
| lofty306 | havent seen that oone in years | 13:39 |
| Hardeep | I swear if someone gives me an official meego device I will develop till I wish I was no longer a CSS | 13:40 |
| Tumi_ | timeless: :D | 13:40 |
| *** Saviq is now known as Saviq_afk | 13:40 | |
| Hardeep | by someone I mean the manufacturing sector haha | 13:40 |
| Hardeep | aka now intel | 13:41 |
| Hardeep | -_- | 13:41 |
| *** Aparna has joined #meego | 13:41 | |
| lofty306 | or a bunch of others | 13:41 |
| *** LjL has joined #meego | 13:42 | |
| Hardeep | lofty306: care to point some other promising ones in my direction? | 13:42 |
| Hardeep | lofty306: preferably phone or tablet specific | 13:42 |
| Hardeep | I don't think I want to get into developing car software haha | 13:43 |
| lofty306 | dunno yet i jumpped in yesterday and am still just seeing what is comming outta WMC | 13:43 |
| Hardeep | lofty306: fair enough | 13:43 |
| * lofty306 shakes his head at rpm... hope it works better thaan in the past | 13:44 | |
| lcuk | Stskeeps, did you generate the IRC stats for DawnFoster yet? | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 13:44 |
| lcuk | oooh, do you have link | 13:44 |
| *** JunJi has quit IRC | 13:46 | |
| Hardeep | anyone heard any news on the fate of Qt? | 13:46 |
| Stskeeps | Hardeep: still alive | 13:46 |
| *** smhar has quit IRC | 13:46 | |
| Hardeep | Stskeeps: hopefully it stays that way... :D | 13:47 |
| *** Saviq_afk is now known as Saviq | 13:47 | |
| *** tackat has joined #meego | 13:51 | |
| *** deno has joined #meego | 13:52 | |
| *** Alison_Chaiken has joined #meego | 13:52 | |
| *** foolano has joined #meego | 13:55 | |
| foolano | hi | 13:55 |
| *** fcrozat has quit IRC | 13:55 | |
| foolano | i'm using this image: meego-netbook-ia32-1.0.80.12.20100727.1-sdk-pre0901.raw.tar.bz2. I would like to install poppler-qt4, is there any repo I could use? | 13:56 |
| *** niala1 has joined #meego | 13:57 | |
| *** vasvlad has quit IRC | 13:57 | |
| deno | hi there | 13:57 |
| niala1 | hi, it's raining again.... lalalalalala | 13:57 |
| *** vasvlad has joined #meego | 13:57 | |
| lcuk | it is always raining somewhere in the world. | 13:57 |
| lcuk | thankfully, the sun is also shining too, so it balances out. | 13:57 |
| *** lizardo has joined #meego | 13:58 | |
| Alison_Chaiken | javispedro, I hear that you have investigated the question of display swivel on IdeaPad generating a catchable event. With 1.1 netbook UX, I don't see anything with "udevadm monitor" or "xev," but maybe 1.2 touch system addresses this? | 13:58 |
| Kevin_B | lcuk : Sun is not shining at all now... | 13:58 |
| *** deno has left #meego | 13:59 | |
| Kevin_B | The great Computing Oracle said so already | 13:59 |
| Hardeep | well gnite people and thanks for the information I will be back soon :) | 13:59 |
| niala1 | often is here lcuk... drought on one side, another flood | 13:59 |
| *** Hardeep has left #meego | 13:59 | |
| *** petrux has quit IRC | 14:00 | |
| timoph | foolano: that image is almost antique | 14:00 |
| javispedro | Alison_Chaiken: I don't know what exactly the 1.2 roadmap is, but I published a kmod that made some events (like swivel or front buttons) avail | 14:00 |
| javispedro | it should be on the meego.com forum, at the s10-3t improvements thread | 14:01 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Thanks javispedro, I will have a look. | 14:01 |
| *** jespada has joined #meego | 14:01 | |
| *** tommim has quit IRC | 14:01 | |
| *** stylesen has quit IRC | 14:02 | |
| *** tommim has joined #meego | 14:02 | |
| foolano | timoph: i see. may i ask where the lastest image is? I followed a tutorial on the meego wiki and that's where i found the link to that image | 14:03 |
| niala1 | javispedro: question: have s10-3t right clic on touchscreen ? | 14:04 |
| javispedro | niala1: how? if anything, it will be software emulation | 14:06 |
| niala1 | ok | 14:06 |
| timeless | on windows, you get a circle if you hold long enough | 14:07 |
| * timeless never understood what that was for | 14:07 | |
| *** sinny has joined #meego | 14:07 | |
| niala1 | sometimes right clic is important | 14:08 |
| javispedro | timeless: right clic if you lift the finger during the circle animation, left click hold event otherwise | 14:08 |
| *** DangerMaus has joined #meego | 14:08 | |
| javispedro | (so that a window doesn't get left hold event first then right click) | 14:09 |
| timeless | :o | 14:09 |
| *** DangerMaus is now known as Guest94700 | 14:09 | |
| *** piiasi has quit IRC | 14:09 | |
| *** larin has quit IRC | 14:10 | |
| *** Guest94700 is now known as loft | 14:10 | |
| *** loft has joined #meego | 14:10 | |
| *** fcrozat has joined #meego | 14:10 | |
| foolano | this one seems to be more recent: meego-netbook-ia32-qemu-1.1.20110104.1305-raw.tar.bz2 | 14:10 |
| *** vasvlad has quit IRC | 14:10 | |
| *** vasvlad has joined #meego | 14:11 | |
| *** loft is now known as DangerMaus | 14:11 | |
| timeless | javispedro: is that a convention of sorts? | 14:11 |
| *** milliams has quit IRC | 14:13 | |
| lcuk | timeless, if you think thats antique, imagine my surprise at booting up development code branch from 2008 | 14:13 |
| lcuk | doh! s/timeless/timpoh/ | 14:13 |
| lcuk | timoph even | 14:13 |
| * lcuk stops typing | 14:14 | |
| timeless | thanks :) | 14:14 |
| timoph | foolano: http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/1.1.90/1.1.90.2.20110208.4/netbook/images/meego-netbook-ia32/ | 14:14 |
| timoph | lcuk: :) | 14:14 |
| *** dneary has quit IRC | 14:14 | |
| javispedro | timeless: no, operating system enforced. | 14:15 |
| timoph | foolano: that's the most recent development image (You can build your own image if you want a newer one) | 14:15 |
| lcuk | timoph, that was where I pulled up the organic/handwritten gpl from :) | 14:15 |
| timoph | :) | 14:15 |
| timeless | is 1.1 newer or older than 1.1.90? | 14:16 |
| timoph | 1.1 is older | 14:17 |
| * niala1 note 1.1.90 is not just before 1.2 ..? | 14:17 | |
| timeless | niala1: this is linux we're talking about | 14:18 |
| timeless | version numbers are intentionally confusing, random, and absolutely useless and untrustworthy | 14:18 |
| lcuk | but with updates may include patches from the 1.2 branch | 14:18 |
| lcuk | (backported from) | 14:18 |
| *** vasvlad has quit IRC | 14:18 | |
| *** espen77 has joined #meego | 14:19 | |
| timeless | there were some really great debian packages with like 4 sets of lies encoded in their versioning scheme | 14:19 |
| * timeless isn't sure offhand how to find that | 14:19 | |
| *** vasvlad has joined #meego | 14:19 | |
| niala1 | solve the problem get trunk... | 14:19 |
| Dijit | timeless: versions.. afaik are odd for unstable or testing. even for stable | 14:19 |
| Dijit | and go <$MAJOR>.<$MINOR>.<$REVISION> | 14:19 |
| timeless | 1.1 is stable, no? | 14:20 |
| timeless | version numbers are random | 14:20 |
| Dijit | well, I keep hearing the words "it's broken" flying around, so I hope not | 14:20 |
| Dijit | xD | 14:20 |
| timeless | and their meaning is subject to change without proper-effective notice | 14:20 |
| *** vasvlad has quit IRC | 14:20 | |
| *** vasvlad has joined #meego | 14:21 | |
| timeless | anyway, http://mxr-test.konigsberg.mozilla.org/crawl-meego.pl seems to do a tolerable job | 14:21 |
| timoph | x.x.80 when trunk is open, x.x.90 feature freazed, x.x.99 for rc or something like that | 14:21 |
| timoph | http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Plans/1.2 | 14:22 |
| timeless | it doesn't script the repodata/ directory, but that's trivial to do | 14:22 |
| lcuk | I drastically need to increase my broadband speed. | 14:23 |
| timoph | lcuk: stop downloading pron | 14:23 |
| * lcuk considers phoning Virgin Media | 14:23 | |
| lcuk | timoph, tech pron, 20110214 daily-testing images for N900 and pinetrail | 14:24 |
| timoph | :) | 14:24 |
| lcuk | this stuff runs on silicon, not silicone | 14:24 |
| niala1 | lcuk: :) i get vinrginphone just before nokia dies. sad | 14:24 |
| lcuk | niala1, some days I am sure my friend has better broadband out in the BVI on his yacht | 14:25 |
| *** lofty306 has quit IRC | 14:25 | |
| timeless | bvi? | 14:25 |
| alterego | Heh, sat broadband isn't that bad anymore, just expensive :D | 14:26 |
| lcuk | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Virgin_Islands | 14:26 |
| *** jniq has joined #meego | 14:26 | |
| *** jniq has joined #meego | 14:26 | |
| *** Luming has joined #meego | 14:26 | |
| timeless | alterego: not particularly great ping times | 14:26 |
| *** juanman has joined #meego | 14:26 | |
| timeless | i don't think network Quake is recommend | 14:26 |
| alterego | Hah, no suppose not. | 14:26 |
| alterego | I've been doing some work for a sat broadband company, a web based accounts and network management system. | 14:27 |
| alterego | Quite cool stuff :) | 14:27 |
| *** setanta has joined #meego | 14:28 | |
| *** vasvlad has quit IRC | 14:28 | |
| *** vasvlad has joined #meego | 14:28 | |
| *** DangerMaus has quit IRC | 14:29 | |
| * niala1 dream for sun and beach... | 14:30 | |
| alterego | Are there any recommended devices to run the tablet UX on? | 14:30 |
| lcuk | whats the download link for tablet/slate ? | 14:31 |
| *** sandst1 has quit IRC | 14:31 | |
| *** srag has quit IRC | 14:31 | |
| *** thuttu77 has quit IRC | 14:31 | |
| *** sh8dfwk has joined #meego | 14:31 | |
| *** phinaliumz has joined #meego | 14:32 | |
| *** sh8dfwk has quit IRC | 14:32 | |
| *** sh8dfwk has joined #meego | 14:32 | |
| *** ssweeny has quit IRC | 14:32 | |
| *** ssweeny has joined #meego | 14:32 | |
| *** sh8dfwk is now known as sandst1 | 14:33 | |
| *** thuttu77 has joined #meego | 14:33 | |
| *** uhef has quit IRC | 14:34 | |
| *** thuttu77 has quit IRC | 14:35 | |
| *** mece has left #meego | 14:35 | |
| *** thuttu77 has joined #meego | 14:38 | |
| * lardman wonders if the tablet ux will build for ARM | 14:39 | |
| RST38h | Considering running it on N900 or a Samsung? | 14:39 |
| Stskeeps | lardman: i'm more curious if it will be meego.com or not. | 14:39 |
| *** srag has joined #meego | 14:39 | |
| lcuk | who has download link for it, I have no scrollback today :$ | 14:40 |
| lardman | RST38h: Samsung | 14:40 |
| lardman | Stskeeps: yes indeed | 14:40 |
| lardman | lcuk: http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/1.1.90/1.1.90.2.20110208.4/netbook/images/meego-netbook-ia32/ ? | 14:40 |
| *** dgc03052 has joined #meego | 14:41 | |
| lcuk | tablet build everyone is discussing | 14:41 |
| lardman | http://appdeveloper.intel.com/en-us/meego-iso-esla | 14:41 |
| niala1 | http://appdeveloper.intel.com/en-us/meego-evaluation-iso | 14:41 |
| lardman | sorry netbook, missed that | 14:41 |
| lcuk | lardman, I have MeeGo images for N900 and Pinetrail already downloading today | 14:41 |
| lcuk | thanks! | 14:41 |
| *** jespada has quit IRC | 14:41 | |
| *** vasvlad has quit IRC | 14:44 | |
| *** vasvlad has joined #meego | 14:44 | |
| *** srag has quit IRC | 14:45 | |
| *** polteus has joined #meego | 14:46 | |
| polteus | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/15/nokia_shareholders_are_revolting/ | 14:48 |
| polteus | :O | 14:48 |
| Stskeeps | polteus: yeah, not much related to meego.com, please take it to #meego-bar :) | 14:48 |
| smoku | https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10260 oh how I like being treated like a moron. very proffesional of rbradford | 14:49 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug 10260 nor, Low, ---, robert.bradford, RESO WORKSFORME, No IM conversation active indicator | 14:49 |
| smoku | and very encouraging to report more bugs | 14:49 |
| smoku | good work... definetely | 14:49 |
| *** thiagoss has joined #meego | 14:50 | |
| * Stskeeps looks | 14:51 | |
| *** tommim1 has joined #meego | 14:51 | |
| *** tommim has quit IRC | 14:51 | |
| Stskeeps | smoku: netbook ux is .. interesting design, yeah | 14:51 |
| iekku | not very nice commenting... | 14:51 |
| smoku | Stskeeps, that's not the point | 14:52 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: i know and it's not good behaviour either in comment or design :P | 14:52 |
| smoku | if you are going to treat contributors like this, wave this project bye bye... | 14:52 |
| iekku | has he invented a perpetual motion machine? | 14:52 |
| *** sandst1 has quit IRC | 14:53 | |
| lardman | I don't suppose the last part of your bug report had anything to do with it? "USER IMPACT: Hates MeeGo Netbook UI" ;) | 14:53 |
| *** luck has joined #meego | 14:53 | |
| *** sh8dfwk has joined #meego | 14:53 | |
| timeless | smoku: err | 14:53 |
| Stskeeps | iekku: do we have any guidelines for good behaviour on bugtracker? | 14:53 |
| timeless | he smiles | 14:53 |
| *** sh8dfwk is now known as sandst1 | 14:53 | |
| timeless | and isn't particularly rude | 14:53 |
| timeless | he's much gentler than i generally am in bug trackers | 14:53 |
| iekku | Stskeeps, not good enough | 14:54 |
| iekku | Stskeeps, but I will check them and add my comments | 14:54 |
| timeless | smoku: note that i don't necessarily agree w/ him | 14:54 |
| *** jespada has joined #meego | 14:54 | |
| timeless | having had this stuff go wrong w/ nokia, i firmly believe that you're mostly right | 14:54 |
| timeless | smoku: but... what happens if you get 1000 people im'ing you while you're away? | 14:54 |
| *** murrayc has quit IRC | 14:55 | |
| * lcuk has that often | 14:55 | |
| timeless | you contribute to that problem too =b | 14:55 |
| lcuk | hehe | 14:56 |
| *** espen77_ has joined #meego | 14:56 | |
| *** smhar has joined #meego | 14:57 | |
| *** mirr0r has joined #meego | 14:59 | |
| *** timeless has quit IRC | 15:00 | |
| *** espen77 has quit IRC | 15:00 | |
| *** puffin has joined #meego | 15:01 | |
| *** timeless has joined #meego | 15:01 | |
| lardman | with that said, there is a fundamental problem in hiding the notification bar | 15:02 |
| lardman | unless it could be made to pop up if there were a notification | 15:02 |
| lardman | or somesuch | 15:02 |
| lcuk | hiding ui on touchscreens is wibbly anyway | 15:02 |
| lardman | wibbly? Bad idea? | 15:03 |
| lcuk | the launcher buttons on netbook ux for instance, have a pin icon in corner and an X in the shortcut bar, but you do not know the position of these nobbles until you click on the icon | 15:03 |
| lcuk | since you cannot "hover" on touch | 15:03 |
| lardman | ah ok | 15:03 |
| lardman | I've not had a chance to use it, so don;t know | 15:03 |
| lcuk | so you try to pin an app to quick launch | 15:03 |
| lcuk | and if you miss, you launch the app itself | 15:04 |
| *** ramkrsna has quit IRC | 15:04 | |
| iekku | Stskeeps, we definitely need more specific guidelines... | 15:04 |
| lcuk | causing that "damn" "shit" expressions | 15:04 |
| *** Savago has joined #meego | 15:05 | |
| *** jespada has quit IRC | 15:05 | |
| *** edisson has joined #meego | 15:07 | |
| *** ramkrsna has joined #meego | 15:07 | |
| *** hurewitz has joined #meego | 15:08 | |
| *** uhef has joined #meego | 15:08 | |
| *** petrux has joined #meego | 15:10 | |
| *** guesto has quit IRC | 15:11 | |
| *** KaL is now known as KaL_out | 15:11 | |
| *** mairas has quit IRC | 15:13 | |
| * timeless wonders what the status on unified auth for bugzilla is | 15:13 | |
| timeless | sp3000: please remind me to ask my mac what my password for bugs-meego is | 15:14 |
| timeless | hrm, is developer.meego.com a secret page? | 15:15 |
| *** schend has quit IRC | 15:16 | |
| alterego | timeless: whilst it's in it's alpha/beta state yeah, they don't want google indexing or something. | 15:16 |
| *** Dhraakellian has quit IRC | 15:17 | |
| alterego | Think the u/p is developer/meego | 15:17 |
| alterego | Or the other way around :) | 15:17 |
| alterego | bbl | 15:17 |
| timeless | the other way around; thanks | 15:17 |
| *** NishanthMenon has quit IRC | 15:18 | |
| timeless | ok, that looks shiny | 15:18 |
| timeless | eventually when mxr is up, i'd hope it could trade spots w/ doxygen, but.. | 15:19 |
| *** Dhraakellian has joined #meego | 15:23 | |
| *** Savago has quit IRC | 15:24 | |
| *** jespada has joined #meego | 15:26 | |
| *** mece has joined #meego | 15:27 | |
| *** mairas has joined #meego | 15:28 | |
| mece | wow... seems intel's servers are under some seriously heavy load... | 15:28 |
| mece | 70kb/s... | 15:28 |
| *** niqt has quit IRC | 15:28 | |
| *** Aparna has quit IRC | 15:28 | |
| *** mitsutaka has quit IRC | 15:30 | |
| *** tommim1 has quit IRC | 15:30 | |
| *** ramkrsna has quit IRC | 15:30 | |
| *** dchaverri26 has joined #meego | 15:31 | |
| *** Abhijeet has joined #meego | 15:31 | |
| *** rbelem has joined #meego | 15:32 | |
| *** rbelem has joined #meego | 15:32 | |
| CosmoHill | mece: what are you downloading? | 15:34 |
| *** dneary has joined #meego | 15:35 | |
| niala1 | good day CosmoHill | 15:36 |
| CosmoHill | salut niala1 | 15:36 |
| mece | CosmoHill, the tablet ui image | 15:38 |
| *** stilli has quit IRC | 15:40 | |
| lcuk | a lot of the Intel meegons being used around twitter are looking very polished. | 15:41 |
| lcuk | were they created using the meegon editor | 15:41 |
| lcuk | or custom artwork? | 15:41 |
| *** mitsutaka has joined #meego | 15:41 | |
| *** niku_ has quit IRC | 15:42 | |
| *** _berto_ has quit IRC | 15:42 | |
| lcuk | for instance: http://twitter.com/amybarton | 15:42 |
| *** luist has joined #meego | 15:44 | |
| mece | there's a meegon editor? | 15:44 |
| *** _berto_ has joined #meego | 15:44 | |
| *** stilli has joined #meego | 15:45 | |
| luist | hello im using an old customized version of garage, and i updated connman from 0.60 to 0.67... now im getting ApplicationManager::ApplicationManager connman not found can anyone help me? | 15:45 |
| *** kraiskil has quit IRC | 15:45 | |
| lcuk | [PROJECT] Custom MeeGo avatar (meegon) generator http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=1338 | 15:45 |
| *** puffin has quit IRC | 15:46 | |
| *** vasvlad has quit IRC | 15:46 | |
| *** vasvlad has joined #meego | 15:46 | |
| *** tilppis has joined #meego | 15:47 | |
| timeless | lcuk: i think intel has an art team available, i wonder if people just ask | 15:48 |
| *** _berto_ has quit IRC | 15:49 | |
| *** pcacjr has quit IRC | 15:49 | |
| *** kavacha has left #meego | 15:50 | |
| lcuk | timeless, possibly | 15:50 |
| lcuk | but theres a whole set of them that look good | 15:50 |
| timeless | sure, and presumably they could ask the team :) | 15:50 |
| timeless | but how do you find this set? | 15:50 |
| * timeless isn't very good w/ this web2 stuff | 15:50 | |
| *** blitz00 has quit IRC | 15:50 | |
| lcuk | timeless, I have amybarton on my twitter | 15:51 |
| lcuk | and remarked at how good they looked, she pointed me to some of the other folks with similar | 15:51 |
| lcuk | http://twitter.com/amybarton/status/37271185343381504 | 15:52 |
| lcuk | @lcuk: Why, thank you! More of our AppUp Dev team's Meegonz: @bobduffy @KiraBoyko @rgunjan @intel_rhonda @obs3sd @maryanniannitti. Fun! :-) | 15:52 |
| *** Faither has quit IRC | 15:52 | |
| *** _berto_ has joined #meego | 15:53 | |
| *** Abhijeet has quit IRC | 15:53 | |
| luist | hello im using an old customized version of garage, and i updated connman from 0.60 to 0.67... now im getting ApplicationManager::ApplicationManager connman not found can anyone help me? | 15:54 |
| *** pcacjr has joined #meego | 15:54 | |
| *** pcacjr has quit IRC | 15:54 | |
| *** pcacjr has joined #meego | 15:54 | |
| *** mece has quit IRC | 15:56 | |
| *** asabil has quit IRC | 15:56 | |
| slaine | arfoll: how did you get your meegon ? | 15:57 |
| *** yanshuang has joined #meego | 15:57 | |
| *** mairas_ has joined #meego | 15:58 | |
| *** mpoirier has joined #meego | 15:59 | |
| *** laitiju has quit IRC | 16:00 | |
| *** tekojo has quit IRC | 16:00 | |
| *** berndhs has joined #meego | 16:00 | |
| *** _berto_ has quit IRC | 16:00 | |
| *** alvaro__ has quit IRC | 16:00 | |
| *** _berto_ has joined #meego | 16:01 | |
| *** luck has quit IRC | 16:01 | |
| *** mairas has quit IRC | 16:01 | |
| *** dgc03052 has quit IRC | 16:03 | |
| *** alvaro__ has joined #meego | 16:04 | |
| bunk | In case anyone is looking for a new job, the company I'm working for is looking for Software Developers in Helsinki: http://www.movial.com/aboutus/aboutmovial/careers/senior-sw-developers/ | 16:05 |
| *** pmcgowan has joined #meego | 16:05 | |
| *** luck has joined #meego | 16:07 | |
| Dijit | I'm on a contract. can't can me for 6 months. | 16:07 |
| *** bazzic has joined #meego | 16:08 | |
| Dijit | they could stop me working though.. so I have no billable hours to invoice for. | 16:08 |
| Dijit | but lets not let them know that xD | 16:08 |
| berndhs | Dijit: isn't that the same thing as canning you ? | 16:10 |
| Dijit | yeah | 16:10 |
| Dijit | but I'm still an employee. | 16:10 |
| Dijit | xD | 16:10 |
| *** stilli1 has joined #meego | 16:12 | |
| *** vlj has joined #meego | 16:13 | |
| vlj | hi | 16:13 |
| *** stilli has quit IRC | 16:13 | |
| vlj | ab: is there some utility function that creates an image from a filename ? | 16:13 |
| *** asabil has joined #meego | 16:13 | |
| *** bergie has quit IRC | 16:13 | |
| ab | vlj, you want QImage out of a file? | 16:13 |
| vlj | yup | 16:14 |
| ab | vlj, use load filter, set needed preview level | 16:14 |
| ab | see the demos | 16:14 |
| vlj | ok | 16:14 |
| vlj | this is just for testing purpose | 16:14 |
| ab | I think all typical uses are covered in that image editor demo app | 16:14 |
| TuOki^ | well QImage has constructor which takes a fileName | 16:14 |
| TuOki^ | note that you need to check that which image formats are supported | 16:15 |
| ab | TuOki^, it does not allow you to keep metadata and save it back | 16:15 |
| *** Dijit has quit IRC | 16:16 | |
| ab | neither it cares about image size. Loading, lets say, 20MPix image fully into memory is hardly needed on a mobile device unless you do processing. Yet even in that case you might do a better job | 16:16 |
| *** cymacs has joined #meego | 16:20 | |
| lcuk | ab, when you save modified file using original meta data, do you also append a note to say it was modified? | 16:20 |
| berndhs | there is QImage::load () as well | 16:20 |
| ab | lcuk, libexempi does it. | 16:20 |
| lcuk | ab, reasonable enough | 16:21 |
| ab | lcuk, though libexempi badly needs to be fixed to follow metadata working group guidelines | 16:21 |
| berndhs | and QImage::fromData() if you read the file to a QByteArray and then load that | 16:21 |
| lcuk | ab, yes - such thinking applies to many things. | 16:22 |
| ab | berndhs, yep and they are just wrappers around more flexible QImageReader API which you should use if you want to be reasonable in constraint resources environment | 16:22 |
| *** stilli1 has quit IRC | 16:22 | |
| *** trupheenix has quit IRC | 16:22 | |
| *** bazzic has quit IRC | 16:22 | |
| ab | berndhs, unfortunately, this does not solve problems with metadata handling, neither with pixmaps and explicit memory copies and so on | 16:22 |
| berndhs | not if you want to mess with the metadata, no | 16:23 |
| ab | berndhs, what vlj doing is image processing, not visualization so he has to protect metadata | 16:23 |
| ab | Qt does not offer good means to handle image processing. | 16:23 |
| vlj | right now I'm trying to have a way to visualize if my image processing works :p | 16:24 |
| berndhs | ah, so for this purpose he doesn't necessarily want to even display the image | 16:24 |
| ab | :) | 16:24 |
| ab | vlj, then set a preview level in quill to be something like "full screen" and ask it to give you an image. The rest will be done by load filter. | 16:24 |
| ab | it will also cache the representation (preview level) for consequentive access | 16:25 |
| *** toniher has joined #meego | 16:25 | |
| *** Dijit has joined #meego | 16:26 | |
| vlj | ok thx | 16:26 |
| *** johd has quit IRC | 16:26 | |
| *** ayanes has quit IRC | 16:26 | |
| *** tilppis has quit IRC | 16:26 | |
| *** stilli has joined #meego | 16:27 | |
| *** _berto_ has quit IRC | 16:28 | |
| *** Diod has joined #meego | 16:29 | |
| *** dgc03052 has joined #meego | 16:30 | |
| *** stilli1 has joined #meego | 16:32 | |
| *** stilli has quit IRC | 16:33 | |
| *** juliank has joined #meego | 16:36 | |
| *** polteus has left #meego | 16:36 | |
| *** WellMux has quit IRC | 16:37 | |
| lcuk | ab, which graphics formats support preview based loading? | 16:40 |
| *** NIN101 has joined #meego | 16:40 | |
| lcuk | nd for those which don't, do you load the full image anyway and scale | 16:40 |
| leinir | jpeg2000? | 16:40 |
| *** kimmok has quit IRC | 16:41 | |
| lcuk | well technically, jpeg should, since all you store are the various tiles and then reconstruct as required | 16:41 |
| * lcuk recalls an amazing little algorithm discovery that allows jpeg lossless rotation | 16:42 | |
| lcuk | that made me smile :) | 16:42 |
| lcuk | (years ago, and probably standard now) | 16:42 |
| *** ingalsuo has quit IRC | 16:44 | |
| Jaffa | lcuk: Yeah, most things should support that algorithm. It was reasonably well known in the 1990s | 16:44 |
| *** obit_sweden has quit IRC | 16:44 | |
| lcuk | Jaffa, yeah it was about that time | 16:45 |
| lcuk | we huans have such long memories | 16:45 |
| lcuk | humans do as well of course! | 16:46 |
| timeless | Watson is better | 16:47 |
| lcuk | probably is | 16:47 |
| *** skython has joined #meego | 16:48 | |
| * timeless wonders if people here know what Watson is | 16:50 | |
| *** qgil has joined #meego | 16:50 | |
| timeless | it turns out people in .au don't | 16:50 |
| timeless | hello qgil | 16:50 |
| jonwil | I know what watson is :) | 16:51 |
| leinir | i only know because i'm on the intertubes ;) | 16:51 |
| qgil | hi timeless | 16:51 |
| Stskeeps | morn qgil | 16:51 |
| timeless | leinir: i was shocked to discover an intertube connected .au'ian didn't | 16:51 |
| * Stskeeps heads to polish classes | 16:51 | |
| timeless | Stskeeps: ask your classmates if they know what Watson is | 16:51 |
| *** notmart has joined #meego | 16:52 | |
| qgil | Watson is a narrator | 16:52 |
| lcuk | morning qgil \o | 16:53 |
| *** puffin has joined #meego | 16:54 | |
| timeless | qgil: please state your (incorrect) answer in the form of a question | 16:54 |
| qgil | timeless: are you referring to Dr Watson, maybe? | 16:55 |
| timeless | no | 16:55 |
| *** kimmok has joined #meego | 16:56 | |
| *** cymacs has quit IRC | 16:56 | |
| timeless | qgil: you are in .us, no? | 16:56 |
| * timeless tries to understand how qgil could have missed this | 16:56 | |
| *** stilli1 has quit IRC | 16:56 | |
| *** ramkrsna has joined #meego | 16:57 | |
| *** ramkrsna has joined #meego | 16:57 | |
| *** javispedro has quit IRC | 17:01 | |
| *** mirr0r has quit IRC | 17:02 | |
| *** calvaris has quit IRC | 17:03 | |
| qgil | qgil: can't read more these days, and I'm missing plenty of stuff | 17:07 |
| qgil | I mean timeless :) | 17:07 |
| timeless | qgil: http://www.google.com/search?q=watson&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a | 17:08 |
| timeless | IBM - Watson 14 Feb 2011 ... Watson, the IBM computer that will compete on Jeopardy!, represents an impressive leap forward in analytics and systems design. www-03.ibm.com/innovation/us/watson/ - Cached | 17:08 |
| *** stilli has joined #meego | 17:08 | |
| *** ramkrsna has quit IRC | 17:08 | |
| sivang | timeless: oh! | 17:08 |
| * timeless shakes head | 17:09 | |
| *** willer has joined #meego | 17:09 | |
| *** Vudentz has quit IRC | 17:09 | |
| *** sinny has quit IRC | 17:09 | |
| sivang | timeless: a computer playing on jebordy ? | 17:09 |
| qgil | timeless: funny, the last book I was reading these days is http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?ttype=2&tid=5890 | 17:09 |
| sivang | hey qgil ! | 17:10 |
| sivang | qgil: how are things? | 17:10 |
| timeless | qgil: interesting | 17:10 |
| timeless | sivang: yes.. | 17:10 |
| qgil | sivang: things are :) | 17:10 |
| *** javispedro has joined #meego | 17:11 | |
| *** mirr0r has joined #meego | 17:12 | |
| arfoll | slaine: textrat made my meegon for me | 17:14 |
| sivang | qgil: am just checking new update on https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11084 | 17:14 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug 11084 maj, Medium, ---, ronan.maclaverty, RESO WORKSFORME, Device section burried to deep in information architecture | 17:14 |
| * sivang tries to recall the user/pass | 17:14 | |
| *** rbelem has quit IRC | 17:14 | |
| arfoll | slaine: I think theres a request page in the wiki | 17:14 |
| *** kaihenr has quit IRC | 17:14 | |
| *** kaihenr_ has quit IRC | 17:14 | |
| *** vgrade-nexus has joined #meego | 17:15 | |
| *** rbelem has joined #meego | 17:16 | |
| *** calvaris has joined #meego | 17:16 | |
| *** dos1 has joined #meego | 17:19 | |
| *** bergie has joined #meego | 17:20 | |
| *** rbelem_ has joined #meego | 17:20 | |
| *** optln has joined #meego | 17:23 | |
| *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC | 17:23 | |
| *** haitao has joined #meego | 17:23 | |
| *** rbelem has quit IRC | 17:24 | |
| *** gabrbedd has joined #meego | 17:25 | |
| *** rbelem__ has joined #meego | 17:29 | |
| *** larin has joined #meego | 17:29 | |
| *** gabrbedd has left #meego | 17:30 | |
| *** gabrbedd has joined #meego | 17:30 | |
| *** rbelem_ has quit IRC | 17:30 | |
| *** felipec has joined #meego | 17:31 | |
| *** rbelem__ has quit IRC | 17:32 | |
| *** rbelem__ has joined #meego | 17:32 | |
| *** Aparna has joined #meego | 17:33 | |
| *** Luming has quit IRC | 17:34 | |
| *** Venemo has joined #meego | 17:35 | |
| *** Matan[M] has joined #meego | 17:35 | |
| *** Luming has joined #meego | 17:35 | |
| *** Luming has quit IRC | 17:35 | |
| *** tpeltone has joined #meego | 17:35 | |
| *** wasikevin has joined #meego | 17:36 | |
| *** Luming has joined #meego | 17:36 | |
| *** Luming has quit IRC | 17:36 | |
| *** Luming has joined #meego | 17:37 | |
| *** Kevin_B has quit IRC | 17:37 | |
| *** jpetersen has quit IRC | 17:37 | |
| *** sinny has joined #meego | 17:40 | |
| *** Richrd_ has joined #meego | 17:41 | |
| *** jlamadon has quit IRC | 17:43 | |
| *** calvaris has quit IRC | 17:44 | |
| *** tpeltone has left #meego | 17:47 | |
| *** Luming has quit IRC | 17:48 | |
| *** talmaiMAD has quit IRC | 17:48 | |
| *** vlj has quit IRC | 17:49 | |
| *** schend has joined #meego | 17:49 | |
| *** asabil has quit IRC | 17:49 | |
| *** sinnykumari has joined #meego | 17:49 | |
| *** sinny has quit IRC | 17:49 | |
| *** Venemo has quit IRC | 17:51 | |
| *** hugopl has joined #meego | 17:52 | |
| *** dgc03052 has quit IRC | 17:54 | |
| *** dgc03052 has joined #meego | 17:54 | |
| *** Venemo has joined #meego | 17:55 | |
| *** chinmaya has joined #meego | 17:55 | |
| *** mattock has quit IRC | 17:55 | |
| *** Richrd_ has quit IRC | 17:56 | |
| *** Richrd_ has joined #meego | 17:56 | |
| *** x_O has quit IRC | 17:57 | |
| Venemo | w00t_: ping | 17:57 |
| *** javispedro has quit IRC | 17:57 | |
| *** dcharles has joined #meego | 17:58 | |
| *** felipec has quit IRC | 18:02 | |
| luist | hello im using an old customized version of garage, and i updated connman from 0.60 to 0.67... now im getting ApplicationManager::ApplicationManager connman not found can anyone help me? | 18:04 |
| *** Saviq is now known as Saviq_afk | 18:04 | |
| *** abhijeet has joined #meego | 18:05 | |
| *** KaL_out is now known as KaL | 18:05 | |
| *** yanshuang has quit IRC | 18:06 | |
| hbragge | luist: connman dbus api was renamed in 0.64 | 18:07 |
| luist | hbragge: ok so how can i fix this? | 18:07 |
| hbragge | no idea | 18:08 |
| hbragge | maybe update everything that uses connman | 18:08 |
| *** schend has quit IRC | 18:09 | |
| luist | hbragge: this is in the garage's code: m_connMan = new QDBusInterface( "org.moblin.connman", "/", "org.moblin.connman.Manager", bus); | 18:10 |
| luist | hbragge: should i change to com.meego? | 18:10 |
| hbragge | luist: its net.connman now | 18:10 |
| hbragge | "org.moblin.connman" -> "net.connman" | 18:11 |
| luist | so QDBusInterface( "net.connman", "/", "net.connman.Manager", bus); ? | 18:11 |
| hbragge | yes | 18:11 |
| luist | hbragge: ok ill try that | 18:12 |
| *** tpeltone has joined #meego | 18:13 | |
| *** nicu has quit IRC | 18:13 | |
| *** optln has quit IRC | 18:16 | |
| *** andyross has joined #meego | 18:17 | |
| *** tackat has quit IRC | 18:18 | |
| *** edisson has quit IRC | 18:19 | |
| *** milliams has joined #meego | 18:19 | |
| Venemo | hey everyone | 18:20 |
| Venemo | I need a little help from someone who worked on the development of the Netbook UX, or just knows a lot about its architecture | 18:20 |
| gabrbedd | Venemo: what's your question? | 18:22 |
| ab | lcuk: (been away) all formats supported by Qt in stock image plugins. However, on the device best optimized one will be jpeg. | 18:23 |
| *** inz has quit IRC | 18:27 | |
| *** jespada has quit IRC | 18:28 | |
| *** srag has joined #meego | 18:28 | |
| *** vanadis_ has quit IRC | 18:28 | |
| *** jniq has quit IRC | 18:29 | |
| *** arvind_khadri has joined #meego | 18:29 | |
| *** tvainio has quit IRC | 18:32 | |
| *** mairas_ has quit IRC | 18:33 | |
| *** thiago_home has joined #meego | 18:33 | |
| *** javispedro has joined #meego | 18:33 | |
| *** _r1__ is now known as _r1_ | 18:34 | |
| *** eluttine has quit IRC | 18:34 | |
| *** eluttine has joined #meego | 18:34 | |
| *** smoinen has quit IRC | 18:35 | |
| *** vilvo_away has quit IRC | 18:35 | |
| *** petteri has quit IRC | 18:35 | |
| *** vilvo_away has joined #meego | 18:35 | |
| *** smoinen has joined #meego | 18:35 | |
| *** petteri has joined #meego | 18:35 | |
| *** MacDrunk has quit IRC | 18:35 | |
| *** ritz has joined #meego | 18:37 | |
| *** pixelgeek has joined #meego | 18:38 | |
| *** Tsarpf has quit IRC | 18:39 | |
| *** dharman has quit IRC | 18:39 | |
| *** ritz has quit IRC | 18:39 | |
| *** srag has quit IRC | 18:39 | |
| *** Armi^ has joined #meego | 18:40 | |
| *** Richrd__ has joined #meego | 18:40 | |
| *** uhef has quit IRC | 18:42 | |
| *** Richrd_ has quit IRC | 18:42 | |
| *** petrux has quit IRC | 18:46 | |
| *** asabil has joined #meego | 18:46 | |
| *** GeneralAntilles1 is now known as GeneralAntilles | 18:47 | |
| *** GeneralAntilles has joined #meego | 18:47 | |
| *** KevinB has joined #meego | 18:47 | |
| *** Kevin_B has joined #meego | 18:48 | |
| *** tvainio has joined #meego | 18:48 | |
| Ulf_ | lcuk, are you there? | 18:48 |
| lcuk | yes | 18:49 |
| Ulf_ | Lucky me :) | 18:49 |
| Ulf_ | lcuk, can you explain this bug a little further? https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13509 | 18:50 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug 13509 nor, High, ---, sean.v.kelley, NEW, Handset UX on pinetrail does not boot. | 18:50 |
| Ulf_ | Thx MeeGoBot ;) | 18:50 |
| lcuk | Ulf_, I can in about 10 minutes, I was just copying the image onto a usb stick | 18:50 |
| *** inz has joined #meego | 18:50 | |
| *** mlpug has joined #meego | 18:50 | |
| Ulf_ | lcuk, cool, thank you | 18:50 |
| *** KevinB has quit IRC | 18:51 | |
| lcuk | Ulf_, but the bug is quite clear, I downloaded the 20110211 image, copied to usb stick and booted from it | 18:51 |
| lcuk | it got no further than showing the X11 cursor. | 18:52 |
| Ulf_ | lcuk, What's happeninng for me is that the display shutsdown once X comes up and the only way to eventually restore it is to suspend and resume operation | 18:52 |
| lcuk | once this copies I will know if the 20110214 works | 18:52 |
| Ulf_ | lcuk, I didn't even get the X cursor on my S10 | 18:52 |
| lcuk | hold on, grabbing device now, usb copied | 18:52 |
| Ulf_ | lcuk, thanks for looking into this | 18:53 |
| lcuk | Ulf_, having rock solid stable handset UI on the various devices is all our problem. | 18:53 |
| *** mpostelnicu has joined #meego | 18:54 | |
| *** inz has quit IRC | 18:55 | |
| *** dogi has joined #meego | 18:55 | |
| *** aloisiojr has joined #meego | 18:56 | |
| Ulf_ | lcuk, I agree | 18:56 |
| lcuk | Ulf_, yes, the 0214 image is a regression on the 0211 image. totally black screen now. | 18:56 |
| lcuk | I am going to flash the 0211 image again to quadruple check | 18:57 |
| *** timeless has quit IRC | 18:57 | |
| lcuk | ahhh Ulf_ I see what you mean, I closed the lid and reopened and meego UI is there | 18:57 |
| *** inz has joined #meego | 18:57 | |
| lcuk | showing at 800*480, but its there | 18:58 |
| *** wasikevin has quit IRC | 18:58 | |
| *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC | 18:59 | |
| *** kimitake is now known as kimitake_idle | 18:59 | |
| Ulf_ | lcuk, yes and there is a bug open for that | 18:59 |
| Ulf_ | lcuk, https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13518 | 18:59 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug 13518 cri, Undecided, ---, peng.li, NEW, Display frequently shuts down on Intel graphics based devices. | 18:59 |
| lcuk | Ulf_, but that now is different to as it was on 0211 image | 19:00 |
| *** rosseaux has quit IRC | 19:03 | |
| *** srag has joined #meego | 19:04 | |
| *** kimitake_idle is now known as kimitake | 19:04 | |
| *** optln has joined #meego | 19:05 | |
| Ulf_ | lcuk, We'll have to wait for Peng Li to submit an updated pvr-bin in Trunk:Testing and test again. I doubt, I will find someone to look into the issue seen with the 0211 image | 19:05 |
| *** githogori has quit IRC | 19:07 | |
| lcuk | Ulf_, that is ok, I am used to waiting. | 19:07 |
| *** jespada has joined #meego | 19:07 | |
| * lcuk sends sms to fsfe | 19:07 | |
| *** arvind_khadri has joined #meego | 19:08 | |
| *** foolano has quit IRC | 19:09 | |
| *** rosseaux has joined #meego | 19:10 | |
| *** ab has quit IRC | 19:10 | |
| *** topeira has quit IRC | 19:11 | |
| *** rosseaux has quit IRC | 19:12 | |
| *** gabor has quit IRC | 19:13 | |
| *** chinmaya has quit IRC | 19:15 | |
| *** otep has quit IRC | 19:15 | |
| *** Matan[M] has quit IRC | 19:15 | |
| *** rosseaux has joined #meego | 19:15 | |
| *** rbelem__ has quit IRC | 19:17 | |
| *** topeira has joined #meego | 19:19 | |
| *** topeira has joined #meego | 19:19 | |
| *** pavank10 has quit IRC | 19:20 | |
| *** snowpong has quit IRC | 19:21 | |
| *** rbelem has joined #meego | 19:22 | |
| *** rbelem has joined #meego | 19:22 | |
| *** larin has quit IRC | 19:23 | |
| *** theodor has quit IRC | 19:23 | |
| *** Cquad has joined #meego | 19:23 | |
| *** Ced__ has joined #meego | 19:23 | |
| *** fredy_ has joined #meego | 19:23 | |
| *** Ced__ has quit IRC | 19:23 | |
| *** topeira has quit IRC | 19:24 | |
| Venemo | I need a little help from someone who knows about the inner workings of mutter-meego | 19:25 |
| *** theodor has joined #meego | 19:25 | |
| DawnFoster | Venemo: the best way to get help is to post a specific question about what you want to do or the issue you are having. | 19:26 |
| *** haitao has quit IRC | 19:26 | |
| *** jayabharath has joined #meego | 19:27 | |
| Venemo | DawnFoster, I'd like to know where the mechanics take place that display one of the panels | 19:27 |
| *** kraiskil has joined #meego | 19:28 | |
| Venemo | DawnFoster, by 'where', I mean I'd like to know which method in which .c file does it | 19:28 |
| *** javiF has quit IRC | 19:29 | |
| *** puffin_ has joined #meego | 19:30 | |
| *** puffin has quit IRC | 19:30 | |
| *** johd has joined #meego | 19:30 | |
| *** Khertan has quit IRC | 19:31 | |
| *** willer is now known as willer_ | 19:32 | |
| *** topeira has joined #meego | 19:33 | |
| *** topeira has joined #meego | 19:33 | |
| *** ven has joined #meego | 19:33 | |
| *** Venemo has quit IRC | 19:33 | |
| *** abinader has joined #meego | 19:33 | |
| *** ven has quit IRC | 19:33 | |
| *** Venemo has joined #meego | 19:34 | |
| *** snowpong has joined #meego | 19:34 | |
| *** pupnik has quit IRC | 19:34 | |
| *** ivanich has quit IRC | 19:34 | |
| *** pupnik has joined #meego | 19:35 | |
| *** pupnik has joined #meego | 19:35 | |
| *** Richrd_ has joined #meego | 19:36 | |
| *** Richrd__ has quit IRC | 19:36 | |
| *** lauro has quit IRC | 19:36 | |
| *** ivanich has joined #meego | 19:37 | |
| *** jonwil has quit IRC | 19:37 | |
| sivang | anybody knows the DMC's user/pass. /me tries meego/developer | 19:39 |
| *** lauro has joined #meego | 19:39 | |
| *** topeira has quit IRC | 19:41 | |
| *** eti has joined #meego | 19:42 | |
| TSCHAKeee | sivang: ask DJ Run. | 19:43 |
| * TSCHAKeee laughs profusely | 19:43 | |
| *** bbartek has joined #meego | 19:45 | |
| *** Dijit has quit IRC | 19:45 | |
| *** fredy_ has quit IRC | 19:46 | |
| *** lardman is now known as lardman|gone | 19:47 | |
| *** abinader has quit IRC | 19:47 | |
| *** javispedro has quit IRC | 19:48 | |
| *** optln_ has joined #meego | 19:49 | |
| *** johd_ has joined #meego | 19:49 | |
| *** lopotter has joined #meego | 19:50 | |
| *** dgc03052 has quit IRC | 19:50 | |
| *** purserj_ has joined #meego | 19:51 | |
| *** optln_ has quit IRC | 19:52 | |
| *** dgc03052 has joined #meego | 19:52 | |
| *** petteri_ has joined #meego | 19:52 | |
| *** ivanich_ has joined #meego | 19:53 | |
| *** dgc03052 has quit IRC | 19:53 | |
| *** sivang_ has joined #meego | 19:53 | |
| *** toniher has quit IRC | 19:54 | |
| *** juan_man has joined #meego | 19:54 | |
| *** thresh_ has joined #meego | 19:55 | |
| *** kulve_ has joined #meego | 19:55 | |
| *** Jokke_ has joined #meego | 19:55 | |
| *** kallam_ has joined #meego | 19:55 | |
| *** ahf_ has joined #meego | 19:55 | |
| *** Elenri1 has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** niala1 has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** psycho_oreos has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** hcarrega has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** rmt has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** ernestchiang_ has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** sar3th|away has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** akikhaw has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** Thierry has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** bschindler has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** kov has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** thresh has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** marcoil has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** kallam has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** apexo has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** kulve has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** ShadowJK has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** olorin_ has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** Jokke has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** ahf has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** bleeter has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** vgrade-nexus has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** qgil has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** hlzxy has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** Guest41481 has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** dragan has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** mobs_ has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** aloril has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** infobot has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** Lantizia has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** joppu has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** trumee has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** ieatlint has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** sheepbat has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** rib` has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** magnus_ has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** tconant has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** lpotter has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** vivijim has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** Job1 has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** X-Fade has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** franz_ has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** zr0 has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** elproxy has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** toninikkanen has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** mlpug has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** milliams has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** juliank has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** mitsutaka has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** dneary has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** s1gk1ll has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** jonner has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** mythi_ has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** apoi has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** alterego has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** zgoldberg has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** nickzxcv has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** dotblank has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** RST38h has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** Stskeeps has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** jayne has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** pvanhoof has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** smcv has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** Shapeshifter has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** passeli|w has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** wijiji has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** fregl has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** lg_quassel has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** jbos has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** Lopi has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** user12 has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** Raim has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** balrog-k1n has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** iksaif has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** mihero has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** riot has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** mbatle has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** marnanel has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** pcapriotti has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** _kristianm has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** rohanpm has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** jhe has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** Jartza has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** musca has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** zuh has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** dirkhh__ has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** sivu has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** fscker has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** andre has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** vltR has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** optln has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** petteri has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** pcacjr has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** espen77_ has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** juanman has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** halvors has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** Fl3x has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** Jade has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** sivang has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** TSCHAKeee has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** Ulf_ has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** pfl1 has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** fellu has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** kimitake has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** gbraad-china has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** cassmodiah has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** dmb has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** radhermit has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** ljp has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** jsharper has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** Glavata has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** sharpneli has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** johnx has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** michaelg|nok has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** DerSaidin has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** sabotage has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** weggi_ has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** chem|st has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** olvix has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** ivanich has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** johd has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** abhijeet has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** alvaro__ has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** hurewitz has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** jfding has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** kaitlin__ has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** KaL has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** mpostelnicu has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** matrixx has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** pierce has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** wmarone has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** ask__ has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** FunkyPenguin has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** srikanth_rst has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** purserj has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** marienz has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** lucian1 has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** vcgomes has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** jackiewu has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** crope has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** ake has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** weggi has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** lauro has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** srag has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** aloisiojr has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** dogi has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** eluttine has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** willer_ has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** slaine has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** arkub has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** eijk has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** Aranel has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** npm has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** bboyvat has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** aivanov has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** DJWillis has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** deegee__ has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** jbacklun has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** LiraNuna has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** jevin has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| *** defor has quit IRC | 19:57 | |
| *** neutrin0 has quit IRC | 19:57 | |
| *** penghb1 has quit IRC | 19:57 | |
| *** Jaffa has quit IRC | 19:57 | |
| *** Wellark has quit IRC | 19:57 | |
| *** jannhama has quit IRC | 19:57 | |
| *** bot_JL__ has quit IRC | 19:57 | |
| *** Rrraimo has quit IRC | 19:57 | |
| *** ivan4th has quit IRC | 19:57 | |
| *** oilinki has quit IRC | 19:57 | |
| *** DEADBEEF- has quit IRC | 19:57 | |
| *** tuho has quit IRC | 19:57 | |
| *** comawhite has quit IRC | 19:57 | |
| *** anaumov has quit IRC | 19:57 | |
| *** Riussi has quit IRC | 19:57 | |
| *** chouchoune has quit IRC | 19:57 | |
| *** petteri_ is now known as petteri | 19:57 | |
| *** ap3xo has joined #meego | 19:57 | |
| *** sivang_ is now known as sivang | 19:57 | |
| *** Thierry__ has joined #meego | 19:57 | |
| *** Thierry__ is now known as Thierry | 19:57 | |
| *** sivang has quit IRC | 19:57 | |
| *** Fl3x has joined #meego | 19:57 | |
| *** ask__ has joined #meego | 19:57 | |
| *** olorin_ has joined #meego | 19:58 | |
| *** marcoil has joined #meego | 19:58 | |
| *** briglia has joined #meego | 19:58 | |
| *** chinmaya has joined #meego | 19:58 | |
| DawnFoster | sivang: meego/developer didn't work for you to get in past the login popup? | 19:58 |
| *** hurewitz has joined #meego | 19:58 | |
| *** kov has joined #meego | 19:59 | |
| pupnik | wheee | 19:59 |
| *** akikhaw has joined #meego | 19:59 | |
| *** kaitlin__ has joined #meego | 19:59 | |
| Tscheesy_ | nice - Fujitsus MH330 Netbook will come with Meego only | 19:59 |
| *** Ulf_ has joined #meego | 19:59 | |
| *** gbraad-china has joined #meego | 19:59 | |
| *** alvaro__ has joined #meego | 20:00 | |
| *** abhijeet has joined #meego | 20:00 | |
| *** DerSaidi1 has joined #meego | 20:00 | |
| *** Saviq_afk is now known as Saviq | 20:00 | |
| *** espen77 has joined #meego | 20:00 | |
| *** ernestchiang_ has joined #meego | 20:01 | |
| *** Jade has joined #meego | 20:02 | |
| *** lfranchi has quit IRC | 20:02 | |
| *** KRF has quit IRC | 20:02 | |
| *** npm has joined #meego | 20:02 | |
| *** KRF has joined #meego | 20:03 | |
| *** lfranchi has joined #meego | 20:03 | |
| *** halvors has joined #meego | 20:03 | |
| *** inz has quit IRC | 20:03 | |
| *** Jaffa has joined #meego | 20:04 | |
| *** eluttine has joined #meego | 20:04 | |
| *** TSCHAKeee has joined #meego | 20:04 | |
| *** dogi has joined #meego | 20:04 | |
| *** javispedro has joined #meego | 20:04 | |
| *** mpostelnicu has joined #meego | 20:04 | |
| *** bboyvat has joined #meego | 20:04 | |
| *** cardinal has joined #meego | 20:05 | |
| *** dotblank has joined #meego | 20:05 | |
| *** RST38h has joined #meego | 20:05 | |
| *** wijiji has joined #meego | 20:05 | |
| *** Stskeeps has joined #meego | 20:05 | |
| *** jayne has joined #meego | 20:05 | |
| *** pvanhoof has joined #meego | 20:05 | |
| *** smcv has joined #meego | 20:05 | |
| *** Shapeshifter has joined #meego | 20:05 | |
| *** passeli|w has joined #meego | 20:05 | |
| *** fregl has joined #meego | 20:05 | |
| *** lg_quassel has joined #meego | 20:05 | |
| *** jbos has joined #meego | 20:05 | |
| *** Lopi has joined #meego | 20:05 | |
| *** iksaif has joined #meego | 20:05 | |
| *** user12 has joined #meego | 20:05 | |
| *** Raim has joined #meego | 20:05 | |
| *** balrog-k1n has joined #meego | 20:05 | |
| *** mihero has joined #meego | 20:05 | |
| *** riot has joined #meego | 20:05 | |
| *** mbatle has joined #meego | 20:05 | |
| *** marnanel has joined #meego | 20:05 | |
| *** pcapriotti has joined #meego | 20:05 | |
| *** _kristianm has joined #meego | 20:05 | |
| *** rohanpm has joined #meego | 20:05 | |
| *** jhe has joined #meego | 20:05 | |
| *** Jartza has joined #meego | 20:05 | |
| *** musca has joined #meego | 20:05 | |
| *** zuh has joined #meego | 20:05 | |
| *** dirkhh__ has joined #meego | 20:05 | |
| *** sivu has joined #meego | 20:05 | |
| *** fscker has joined #meego | 20:05 | |
| *** andre has joined #meego | 20:05 | |
| *** vltR has joined #meego | 20:05 | |
| *** bleeter has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** jsharper has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** sar3th has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** sabotage has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** matrixx has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** pcacjr has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** eijk has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** lauro has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** srag has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** aloisiojr has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** willer_ has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** arkub has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** Aranel has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** oilinki has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** aivanov has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** DJWillis has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** deegee__ has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** jbacklun has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** LiraNuna has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** jevin has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** defor has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** neutrin0 has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** penghb1 has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** Wellark has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** jannhama has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** bot_JL__ has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** Rrraimo has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** ivan4th has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** DEADBEEF- has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** anaumov has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** chouchoune has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** tuho has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** comawhite has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** Riussi has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** rmt has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** wmarone has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** fcrozat has quit IRC | 20:06 | |
| *** aloril has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** Lantizia has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** infobot has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** joppu has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** trumee has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** ieatlint has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** sheepbat has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** magnus_ has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** rib` has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** tconant has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** lpotter has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** franz_ has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** vivijim has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** Job1 has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** X-Fade has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** zr0 has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** elproxy has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** toninikkanen has joined #meego | 20:06 | |
| *** snowpong has quit IRC | 20:07 | |
| *** cassmodiah has joined #meego | 20:07 | |
| *** niala1 has joined #meego | 20:08 | |
| *** Glavata has joined #meego | 20:08 | |
| *** Zhonghua has joined #meego | 20:08 | |
| *** arfoll has quit IRC | 20:08 | |
| *** espen77 has quit IRC | 20:09 | |
| *** Armi^ has quit IRC | 20:09 | |
| *** oilinki3 has joined #meego | 20:09 | |
| *** Armi^ has joined #meego | 20:09 | |
| *** tomaw is now known as 5EXAB34GN | 20:09 | |
| *** vcgomes has joined #meego | 20:09 | |
| *** 15SABI1J0 has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** fellu has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** ShadowJK has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** michaelg|nok has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** qgil has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** pupnik_ has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** bschindler|deskt has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** mlpug has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** milliams has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** vgrade-nexus has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** juliank has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** mitsutaka has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** dneary has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** jfding has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** KaL has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** hlzxy has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** Guest41481 has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** pierce has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** pfl1 has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** srikanth_rst has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** kimitake has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** jackiewu has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** nickzxcv has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** marienz has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** s1gk1ll has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** lucian1 has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** dmb has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** olvix has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** sharpneli has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** crope has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** johnx has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** jonner has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** mythi_ has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** apoi has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** alterego has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** zgoldberg has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** ake has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** chem|st has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** weggi_ has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** weggi has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** qgil has quit IRC | 20:10 | |
| *** vgrade-nexus has quit IRC | 20:10 | |
| *** hlzxy has quit IRC | 20:10 | |
| *** Guest41481 has quit IRC | 20:10 | |
| *** 15SABI1J0 has quit IRC | 20:10 | |
| *** bschindler|deskt has quit IRC | 20:10 | |
| *** pfl1 has quit IRC | 20:10 | |
| *** kimitake has quit IRC | 20:10 | |
| *** dmb has quit IRC | 20:10 | |
| *** sharpneli has quit IRC | 20:10 | |
| *** johnx has quit IRC | 20:10 | |
| *** weggi_ has quit IRC | 20:10 | |
| *** chem|st has quit IRC | 20:10 | |
| *** olvix has quit IRC | 20:10 | |
| *** fellu has quit IRC | 20:10 | |
| *** jfding has quit IRC | 20:10 | |
| *** KaL has quit IRC | 20:10 | |
| *** pierce has quit IRC | 20:10 | |
| *** srikanth_rst has quit IRC | 20:10 | |
| *** marienz has quit IRC | 20:10 | |
| *** lucian1 has quit IRC | 20:10 | |
| *** jackiewu has quit IRC | 20:10 | |
| *** crope has quit IRC | 20:10 | |
| *** ake has quit IRC | 20:10 | |
| *** weggi has quit IRC | 20:10 | |
| *** snowpong has joined #meego | 20:10 | |
| *** Fl3x has quit IRC | 20:10 | |
| *** ahf_ has quit IRC | 20:11 | |
| *** jfding has joined #meego | 20:11 | |
| *** eijk has quit IRC | 20:12 | |
| *** oilinki has quit IRC | 20:12 | |
| *** 5EXAB34GN is now known as tomaw | 20:12 | |
| *** ake has joined #meego | 20:12 | |
| *** Elenri1 has joined #meego | 20:13 | |
| *** eijk has joined #meego | 20:13 | |
| *** sivang has joined #meego | 20:14 | |
| *** jackiewu has joined #meego | 20:14 | |
| *** ptlo_ has quit IRC | 20:14 | |
| *** mlfoster has joined #meego | 20:15 | |
| *** Richrd__ has joined #meego | 20:15 | |
| *** jayne has quit IRC | 20:15 | |
| *** bleeter has quit IRC | 20:16 | |
| *** freaksed has joined #meego | 20:16 | |
| *** choppa has joined #meego | 20:17 | |
| *** bleeter has joined #meego | 20:17 | |
| freaksed | hello, i am having aproblem installing qjackctl in meego, i got past the xatom.h error but now have an 'EEXIST' was not declared | 20:17 |
| *** fellu has joined #meego | 20:18 | |
| *** githogori has joined #meego | 20:18 | |
| *** dazo is now known as dazo_afk | 20:18 | |
| *** otep has joined #meego | 20:18 | |
| *** lucian has joined #meego | 20:19 | |
| *** srikanth_rst has joined #meego | 20:19 | |
| *** Richrd_ has quit IRC | 20:19 | |
| dneary | lbt, Grats! | 20:19 |
| *** pfl has joined #meego | 20:19 | |
| *** marienz has joined #meego | 20:19 | |
| dneary | lbt, You may also now suggest other sysops if you wish :) | 20:19 |
| *** seanvk has quit IRC | 20:21 | |
| freaksed | has anyone gotten around this EEXIST error while installing qjackctl? | 20:21 |
| *** seanvk has joined #meego | 20:21 | |
| *** nicu has joined #meego | 20:22 | |
| *** fcrozat has joined #meego | 20:22 | |
| *** pfl is now known as 36DAA5NEN | 20:22 | |
| *** Fl3x has joined #meego | 20:23 | |
| *** qgil has joined #meego | 20:23 | |
| *** bschindler|deskt has joined #meego | 20:23 | |
| *** KaL has joined #meego | 20:23 | |
| *** hlzxy has joined #meego | 20:23 | |
| *** Guest41481 has joined #meego | 20:23 | |
| *** pierce has joined #meego | 20:23 | |
| *** dmb has joined #meego | 20:23 | |
| *** olvix has joined #meego | 20:23 | |
| *** sharpneli has joined #meego | 20:23 | |
| *** crope has joined #meego | 20:23 | |
| *** chem|st has joined #meego | 20:23 | |
| *** weggi_ has joined #meego | 20:23 | |
| *** weggi has joined #meego | 20:23 | |
| *** johnx has joined #meego | 20:23 | |
| *** belkiss has joined #meego | 20:23 | |
| *** Thierry has quit IRC | 20:23 | |
| *** Thierry has joined #meego | 20:23 | |
| *** ask__ has quit IRC | 20:23 | |
| *** ask__ has joined #meego | 20:23 | |
| *** Ulf_ has quit IRC | 20:23 | |
| *** Ulf_ has joined #meego | 20:23 | |
| *** bboyvat has quit IRC | 20:23 | |
| *** bboyvat has joined #meego | 20:23 | |
| *** sar3th has quit IRC | 20:23 | |
| *** sar3th has joined #meego | 20:23 | |
| *** Glavata has quit IRC | 20:23 | |
| *** Glavata has joined #meego | 20:23 | |
| *** jackiewu has quit IRC | 20:23 | |
| *** jackiewu has joined #meego | 20:23 | |
| *** mlfoster has quit IRC | 20:23 | |
| *** mlfoster has joined #meego | 20:23 | |
| *** lucian has quit IRC | 20:23 | |
| *** lucian has joined #meego | 20:23 | |
| *** srikanth_rst has quit IRC | 20:23 | |
| *** srikanth_rst has joined #meego | 20:23 | |
| *** fcrozat has quit IRC | 20:23 | |
| *** fcrozat has joined #meego | 20:23 | |
| *** kraiskil has quit IRC | 20:23 | |
| *** sar3th has quit IRC | 20:23 | |
| *** sar3th has joined #meego | 20:23 | |
| *** lfranchi has quit IRC | 20:23 | |
| *** lfranchi has joined #meego | 20:23 | |
| *** sar3th has quit IRC | 20:23 | |
| *** sar3th has joined #meego | 20:23 | |
| *** gbraad-china is now known as Guest40589 | 20:24 | |
| *** dmb has quit IRC | 20:24 | |
| *** javispedro has quit IRC | 20:24 | |
| *** dmb_ has joined #meego | 20:25 | |
| *** dmb_ has joined #meego | 20:25 | |
| *** fnordianslip has joined #meego | 20:26 | |
| *** jayne has joined #meego | 20:27 | |
| *** ahf has joined #meego | 20:27 | |
| *** Fl3x has quit IRC | 20:27 | |
| *** pierce1 has joined #meego | 20:27 | |
| *** Fl3x has joined #meego | 20:27 | |
| *** ahf has quit IRC | 20:27 | |
| *** qgil has quit IRC | 20:28 | |
| *** gaveen has quit IRC | 20:28 | |
| *** obit_sweden has joined #meego | 20:28 | |
| *** pierce has quit IRC | 20:29 | |
| *** jayabharath has quit IRC | 20:29 | |
| *** lucian has quit IRC | 20:31 | |
| *** kimitake has joined #meego | 20:32 | |
| *** lucian1 has joined #meego | 20:32 | |
| *** AndrewX192_ has joined #meego | 20:33 | |
| *** arkub has quit IRC | 20:33 | |
| *** AndrewX192_ has left #meego | 20:33 | |
| *** Richrd_ has joined #meego | 20:34 | |
| pupnik | my qt applications take 10x as long to start as gnome apps | 20:35 |
| *** ethden has joined #meego | 20:36 | |
| *** qwertzuioijuhzgt has joined #meego | 20:36 | |
| *** Venemo has quit IRC | 20:36 | |
| *** qwertzuioijuhzgt has quit IRC | 20:36 | |
| *** Venemo has joined #meego | 20:36 | |
| *** Richrd__ has quit IRC | 20:36 | |
| *** JPohlmann has joined #meego | 20:37 | |
| obit_sweden | pupnik: what qt app ? | 20:37 |
| *** swc|666 has joined #meego | 20:37 | |
| *** kraiskil has joined #meego | 20:38 | |
| *** larin has joined #meego | 20:38 | |
| *** dgc03052 has joined #meego | 20:38 | |
| pupnik | minitube obit_sweden | 20:39 |
| freaksed | sorry im really hitting a wall with qjackctl, on make it spits an error about EEXIST not being declared | 20:40 |
| *** optln has joined #meego | 20:41 | |
| *** gaveen has joined #meego | 20:41 | |
| obit_sweden | pupnik: it's really hard to know what the cause are but it shouldn't have anything to do with qt. | 20:42 |
| pupnik | on the other hand, i see some zippy qt apps as well. it's all the coder's fault | 20:42 |
| *** Zhonghua has left #meego | 20:43 | |
| pupnik | ldd /usr/bin/minitube |wc -l | 20:44 |
| pupnik | 5 | 20:44 |
| pupnik | 53 | 20:44 |
| pupnik | the qt stuff doesn't look bad at all... it's the app needing tons of media libs | 20:45 |
| *** kulve_ is now known as kulve | 20:46 | |
| *** inz has joined #meego | 20:47 | |
| *** snowpong has quit IRC | 20:47 | |
| *** snowpong has joined #meego | 20:48 | |
| *** sivang has quit IRC | 20:48 | |
| *** sivang has joined #meego | 20:48 | |
| *** timeless_xchat has joined #meego | 20:49 | |
| timeless_xchat | lbt: ping | 20:49 |
| *** florian has quit IRC | 20:49 | |
| *** ssvb has joined #meego | 20:50 | |
| *** DJWillis has quit IRC | 20:52 | |
| *** blitz00 has joined #meego | 20:52 | |
| *** sinnykumari has quit IRC | 20:52 | |
| *** JPohlmann has quit IRC | 20:53 | |
| *** kimitake has quit IRC | 20:54 | |
| *** KaL has quit IRC | 20:54 | |
| *** crope has quit IRC | 20:54 | |
| *** weggi has quit IRC | 20:54 | |
| *** crope has joined #meego | 20:54 | |
| *** belkiss has quit IRC | 20:55 | |
| *** bschindler|deskt has quit IRC | 20:55 | |
| *** sharpneli has quit IRC | 20:55 | |
| *** johnx has quit IRC | 20:55 | |
| *** weggi_ has quit IRC | 20:55 | |
| *** chem|st has quit IRC | 20:55 | |
| *** olvix has quit IRC | 20:55 | |
| *** olvix_ has joined #meego | 20:55 | |
| *** chem|st has joined #meego | 20:55 | |
| *** weggi has joined #meego | 20:55 | |
| *** javispedro has joined #meego | 20:55 | |
| *** sharpie has joined #meego | 20:55 | |
| *** KaL has joined #meego | 20:55 | |
| *** bschindler|deskt has joined #meego | 20:55 | |
| *** belkiss has joined #meego | 20:55 | |
| *** pixelgeek has quit IRC | 20:56 | |
| freaksed | has anyone compiled qjackctl on meego? | 20:56 |
| *** pdz has joined #meego | 20:56 | |
| *** weggi__ has joined #meego | 20:56 | |
| *** sd_ has joined #meego | 20:57 | |
| *** geek00l_ has joined #meego | 20:58 | |
| *** johnx has joined #meego | 20:58 | |
| *** npm has quit IRC | 20:58 | |
| *** npm has joined #meego | 20:59 | |
| *** geek00l has quit IRC | 20:59 | |
| *** bleeter has quit IRC | 21:02 | |
| *** dneary has quit IRC | 21:02 | |
| *** bleeter has joined #meego | 21:03 | |
| *** shikamaru has left #meego | 21:04 | |
| *** bbartek has quit IRC | 21:04 | |
| *** KaL has quit IRC | 21:06 | |
| *** sge has quit IRC | 21:09 | |
| *** blitz00 has quit IRC | 21:11 | |
| *** marcob has quit IRC | 21:11 | |
| *** Kevin_B has quit IRC | 21:14 | |
| *** sge has joined #meego | 21:15 | |
| *** kraiskil has quit IRC | 21:15 | |
| *** githogori has quit IRC | 21:16 | |
| *** thomasjfox has joined #meego | 21:17 | |
| *** KevinB has joined #meego | 21:17 | |
| *** itbaron has joined #meego | 21:18 | |
| *** pari42 has joined #meego | 21:18 | |
| obit_sweden | Anyone managed to get ''Bug in initramfs /init detected. Dropping to a shell. Good luck'' when installing Handset UX from usb | 21:20 |
| *** vgrade has quit IRC | 21:20 | |
| *** vgrade has joined #meego | 21:21 | |
| *** snowpong has quit IRC | 21:22 | |
| *** snowpong has joined #meego | 21:24 | |
| freaksed | where can i get libjack.so.0 | 21:24 |
| *** timeless has joined #meego | 21:24 | |
| *** pari421 has joined #meego | 21:25 | |
| *** johd_ has quit IRC | 21:25 | |
| *** jlamadon has joined #meego | 21:27 | |
| *** jjardon has quit IRC | 21:27 | |
| *** kraiskil has joined #meego | 21:27 | |
| *** pari42 has quit IRC | 21:27 | |
| *** maybeWTF has joined #meego | 21:30 | |
| *** anaumov has quit IRC | 21:30 | |
| *** anaumov has joined #meego | 21:30 | |
| *** ikke-t has left #meego | 21:32 | |
| *** Richrd_ has quit IRC | 21:32 | |
| *** bleeter has quit IRC | 21:33 | |
| *** bbartek has joined #meego | 21:33 | |
| *** maybeHere has quit IRC | 21:33 | |
| *** bleeter has joined #meego | 21:34 | |
| *** Alison_Chaiken has quit IRC | 21:34 | |
| *** NIN101 has quit IRC | 21:34 | |
| *** optln has quit IRC | 21:35 | |
| *** sar3th has quit IRC | 21:36 | |
| *** NIN101 has joined #meego | 21:36 | |
| *** sar3th|away has joined #meego | 21:36 | |
| * timeless repokes lbt/x-fade | 21:36 | |
| *** sar3th|away is now known as sar3th | 21:36 | |
| *** ivanich_ has quit IRC | 21:36 | |
| lbt | timeless: hey | 21:37 |
| timeless | what's the status? | 21:37 |
| * lbt is still at work :) | 21:38 | |
| *** bergie has quit IRC | 21:38 | |
| *** guedes has joined #meego | 21:38 | |
| *** guedes has left #meego | 21:38 | |
| *** optln has joined #meego | 21:39 | |
| *** jjardon has joined #meego | 21:39 | |
| *** johd has joined #meego | 21:40 | |
| *** NIN101 has quit IRC | 21:42 | |
| gabrbedd | freaksed: At the moment, you have to compile it by hand. There's no package for it. | 21:43 |
| *** nokon has joined #meego | 21:44 | |
| freaksed | i found out i have it but qjackctl insists that it cans find it | 21:44 |
| *** NIN101 has joined #meego | 21:45 | |
| freaksed | gabrbedd: qjackctl says cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, but i saw the file | 21:46 |
| gabrbedd | freaksed: Did you compile both by hand... or... how did you get jack and qjackctl. And which version of jack? | 21:47 |
| *** luist has quit IRC | 21:47 | |
| *** sawe_ has joined #meego | 21:48 | |
| freaksed | gabrbedd: yes i had to compile both myself, it was jack1, the repositories for meego dont have any jack software | 21:48 |
| *** pmcgowan has quit IRC | 21:48 | |
| *** maybeArgh has joined #meego | 21:48 | |
| *** nokon has left #meego | 21:49 | |
| *** freaksed has quit IRC | 21:49 | |
| *** kidproquo has joined #meego | 21:49 | |
| *** freaksed has joined #meego | 21:49 | |
| *** sawe has quit IRC | 21:50 | |
| *** sawe_ is now known as sawe | 21:50 | |
| gabrbedd | freaksed: Yes, I know. However, I've known some folks to try and use Fedora/CCRMA rpms on meego. | 21:51 |
| *** pcacjr has quit IRC | 21:51 | |
| gabrbedd | freaksed: Is it a runtime error you're seeing... or a compile time error? | 21:51 |
| freaksed | gabrbedd: runtime | 21:52 |
| *** erani has left #meego | 21:52 | |
| gabrbedd | Did you install jack to /usr ? | 21:52 |
| *** maybeWTF has quit IRC | 21:52 | |
| freaksed | gabrbedd: though there were plenty of compile errors i had to get past | 21:52 |
| freaksed | gabrbedd: yes, they are both in /usr/local/bin | 21:52 |
| freaksed | and the libjack is in /usr/local/lib | 21:53 |
| gabrbedd | freaksed: What is the exact error that qjackctl gives you? (word-for-word) | 21:53 |
| *** ivanich has joined #meego | 21:54 | |
| freaksed | gabrbedd: qjackctl: error while loading shared libraries: libjack.so.0: cannotopen shared object file: No such file or directory | 21:54 |
| *** kraiskil has quit IRC | 21:55 | |
| gabrbedd | freaksed: After installing the lib, did you run `sudo /sbin/ldconfig` ?? | 21:55 |
| freaksed | gabrbedd: no | 21:56 |
| gabrbedd | freaksed: That's probably the problem. | 21:56 |
| gabrbedd | freaksed: Run it now, and then qjackctl will probably be able to find the lbi. | 21:56 |
| freaksed | gabrbedd: i just tried running that and nothing happened | 21:56 |
| gabrbedd | s/lbi/lib/ | 21:57 |
| infobot | gabrbedd meant: freaksed: Run it now, and then qjackctl will probably be able to find the lib. | 21:57 |
| gabrbedd | Thanks, infobot. | 21:57 |
| freaksed | gabrbedd: that command just went to the next line without any output, and then qjack still gave the same error | 21:58 |
| *** jayne has quit IRC | 21:58 | |
| *** snowpong has quit IRC | 21:58 | |
| *** laitiju has joined #meego | 21:58 | |
| *** TSCHAKeee has quit IRC | 21:59 | |
| bunk | freaksed: Please run | 21:59 |
| *** foolano has joined #meego | 21:59 | |
| bunk | ls -la /usr/lib/libjack* /usr/local/lib/libjack*; ldd `which qjackctl` | 21:59 |
| *** TSCHAKeee has joined #meego | 21:59 | |
| bunk | and paste the output to pastebin.com | 21:59 |
| freaksed | doing that now, thanks for all the help everyone | 22:00 |
| *** nidO has quit IRC | 22:02 | |
| freaksed | bunk: its up | 22:02 |
| bunk | freaksed: URL? | 22:02 |
| freaksed | bunk: 3VdLVANg | 22:03 |
| bunk | git it | 22:03 |
| *** snowpong has joined #meego | 22:03 | |
| bunk | wrong ticks, please try "ldd /path/to/qjackctl" (with whatever is the correct path to the program) | 22:04 |
| *** javispedro has quit IRC | 22:05 | |
| bunk | you should get something like 10 or 20 lines of libraries listed, and that's the output I'm looking for | 22:05 |
| freaksed | bunk: ammended it | 22:05 |
| *** Dr_Who has joined #meego | 22:06 | |
| *** Dr_Who has quit IRC | 22:06 | |
| *** Dr_Who has joined #meego | 22:06 | |
| bunk | ah, try | 22:06 |
| bunk | LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib qjackctl | 22:06 |
| *** ahf has joined #meego | 22:07 | |
| *** dailylinux has joined #meego | 22:07 | |
| freaksed | bunk:IT WORKED, thank you so much | 22:07 |
| *** bbartek has quit IRC | 22:07 | |
| *** bbartek has joined #meego | 22:07 | |
| freaksed | bunk: did that point it to the right place permanently? or will i need to run it with that command in the future | 22:08 |
| bunk | freaksed: That only works when this environment variable is set, for doing it permanently there are 3 choices: | 22:09 |
| bunk | 1. install the libs to /usr/lib ("./configure --prefix=/usr" when building libjack) | 22:10 |
| bunk | 2. compile an rpath into your program | 22:10 |
| *** kraiskil has joined #meego | 22:11 | |
| *** sawe has quit IRC | 22:11 | |
| *** MacDrunk has joined #meego | 22:12 | |
| bunk | 3. add /usr/local/lib in a file in /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ | 22:12 |
| freaksed | that last one looks the simplest... whats the drawback | 22:13 |
| *** lgombos has quit IRC | 22:14 | |
| bunk | there should be none | 22:14 |
| freaksed | nice is that file called tracker-i386.conf? | 22:15 |
| bunk | you should rather add a new file | 22:15 |
| *** lgombos has joined #meego | 22:15 | |
| *** blah has joined #meego | 22:15 | |
| freaksed | ah ok, does it have no be named a certain way? | 22:16 |
| gabrbedd | /etc/ld.so.conf.d/freaksed.conf | 22:16 |
| gabrbedd | :-) | 22:16 |
| gabrbedd | Probably just need to make sure there's a ".conf" at the end. | 22:16 |
| freaksed | cool, saved lives you did | 22:16 |
| *** pohly has quit IRC | 22:17 | |
| *** jlamadon has quit IRC | 22:20 | |
| *** jaanttil__ has joined #meego | 22:21 | |
| *** mauricelynch has quit IRC | 22:21 | |
| *** kov` has joined #meego | 22:22 | |
| *** radhermit has joined #meego | 22:22 | |
| *** goutam__ has joined #meego | 22:22 | |
| *** tieto_ has joined #meego | 22:22 | |
| *** crooksles has joined #meego | 22:23 | |
| *** frals_ has joined #meego | 22:23 | |
| *** zma_ has joined #meego | 22:23 | |
| *** mardy_ has joined #meego | 22:23 | |
| *** jrautio_ has joined #meego | 22:23 | |
| *** linuxplatform has joined #meego | 22:23 | |
| *** dagger_ has joined #meego | 22:23 | |
| *** jake-k_ has joined #meego | 22:23 | |
| *** _MoL0ToV has joined #meego | 22:23 | |
| *** krau` has joined #meego | 22:23 | |
| *** javispedro has joined #meego | 22:23 | |
| *** setanta_ has joined #meego | 22:23 | |
| *** chinmaya_ has joined #meego | 22:23 | |
| *** dl9pf_ has joined #meego | 22:24 | |
| *** DaPrincess has joined #meego | 22:24 | |
| *** Shadikka_ has joined #meego | 22:24 | |
| *** dchaverri261 has joined #meego | 22:24 | |
| *** pmcgowan has joined #meego | 22:24 | |
| *** Plnt_ has joined #meego | 22:24 | |
| *** iekku_ has joined #meego | 22:24 | |
| *** _wolf_ has joined #meego | 22:25 | |
| *** chainsawbike_ has joined #meego | 22:25 | |
| *** dwmw2_gone_ has joined #meego | 22:26 | |
| *** dailylinux has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** sge has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** inz has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** Jade has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** akikhaw has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** kov has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** chinmaya has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** tvainio has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** dchaverri26 has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** setanta has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** jysky has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** Flanbix has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** dl9pf has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** muep has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** zumbi has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** violetina has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** goutam_ has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** krau has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** araujo has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** jrautio has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** zma has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** Tumi_ has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** MoL0ToV has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** jake-k has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** chainsawbike has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** dwmw2_gone has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** jaanttil_ has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** Shadikka has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** esbenh has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** lescrooks has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** gw280 has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** Avinash has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** aboyer has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** mardy has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** Plnt has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** dagger has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** frals has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** iekku has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** Tm_T has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** Kypeli has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** kirma has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** chainsawbike_ is now known as chainsawbike | 22:27 | |
| *** _MoL0ToV is now known as MoL0ToV | 22:27 | |
| *** foolano has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** gw280 has joined #meego | 22:27 | |
| *** DaPrincess is now known as violetina | 22:28 | |
| *** weggi has quit IRC | 22:28 | |
| *** weggi has joined #meego | 22:28 | |
| *** akikhaw has joined #meego | 22:28 | |
| *** muep has joined #meego | 22:29 | |
| *** Flanbix has joined #meego | 22:29 | |
| *** vgrade has quit IRC | 22:29 | |
| *** Glavata has quit IRC | 22:29 | |
| *** zr0 has quit IRC | 22:29 | |
| *** vgrade has joined #meego | 22:29 | |
| *** ptl has quit IRC | 22:29 | |
| *** dragan has joined #meego | 22:30 | |
| *** araujo has joined #meego | 22:30 | |
| *** johd has quit IRC | 22:30 | |
| *** bleeter has quit IRC | 22:30 | |
| *** zumbi has joined #meego | 22:31 | |
| *** lardman has joined #meego | 22:31 | |
| *** lardman has joined #meego | 22:31 | |
| *** Richrd has quit IRC | 22:31 | |
| *** iekku_ is now known as iekku | 22:31 | |
| *** zr0 has joined #meego | 22:31 | |
| *** zr0 has joined #meego | 22:31 | |
| *** bleeter has joined #meego | 22:32 | |
| *** toninikkanen has quit IRC | 22:32 | |
| *** toninikk1nen has joined #meego | 22:32 | |
| *** saidinesh5 is now known as saidinesh | 22:32 | |
| *** saidinesh is now known as saidinesh5 | 22:32 | |
| timeless | lbt: how late do you work? :( | 22:34 |
| *** Armi^ has quit IRC | 22:34 | |
| lbt | 11pm-midnight usually | 22:35 |
| *** snowpong_ has joined #meego | 22:36 | |
| timeless | grr | 22:36 |
| *** ptl has joined #meego | 22:36 | |
| *** Atarii has joined #meego | 22:39 | |
| *** arvind_khadri has quit IRC | 22:39 | |
| *** snowpong has quit IRC | 22:39 | |
| *** arfoll has joined #meego | 22:39 | |
| *** freaksed has quit IRC | 22:41 | |
| *** tpeltone has left #meego | 22:43 | |
| *** lizardo has quit IRC | 22:43 | |
| *** MoRpHeUz has quit IRC | 22:43 | |
| *** briglia has quit IRC | 22:43 | |
| *** hugopl has quit IRC | 22:43 | |
| *** luck has quit IRC | 22:43 | |
| *** lmoura has quit IRC | 22:43 | |
| *** lauro has quit IRC | 22:43 | |
| *** setanta_ has quit IRC | 22:43 | |
| *** dgc03052 has quit IRC | 22:43 | |
| *** aloisiojr has quit IRC | 22:43 | |
| *** MoRpHeUz has joined #meego | 22:43 | |
| *** MoRpHeUz has joined #meego | 22:43 | |
| *** hugopl has joined #meego | 22:44 | |
| *** briglia has joined #meego | 22:44 | |
| *** luck has joined #meego | 22:44 | |
| *** puffin_ has quit IRC | 22:44 | |
| *** lmoura has joined #meego | 22:44 | |
| *** lizardo has joined #meego | 22:44 | |
| *** nnl has joined #meego | 22:44 | |
| *** lizardo has quit IRC | 22:45 | |
| *** puffin has joined #meego | 22:45 | |
| *** lizardo has joined #meego | 22:45 | |
| *** Robten has joined #meego | 22:46 | |
| *** vlj has joined #meego | 22:49 | |
| vlj | hi | 22:50 |
| *** dgc03052 has joined #meego | 22:51 | |
| *** samosa has joined #meego | 22:51 | |
| *** kraiskil has quit IRC | 22:52 | |
| *** samosa has left #meego | 22:52 | |
| *** Glavata has joined #meego | 22:53 | |
| *** jespada has quit IRC | 22:53 | |
| *** abhijeet has quit IRC | 22:54 | |
| *** BluX has joined #meego | 22:55 | |
| *** halvors has left #meego | 22:55 | |
| *** halvors has joined #meego | 22:59 | |
| *** setanta_ has joined #meego | 22:59 | |
| *** kov has joined #meego | 23:01 | |
| *** aloisiojr has joined #meego | 23:01 | |
| *** lauro has joined #meego | 23:01 | |
| *** nicu has quit IRC | 23:01 | |
| lardman | what do I need to stick in my .ks to have dhcp installed? | 23:01 |
| gabrbedd | lardman: dhcp server? Or client? | 23:03 |
| *** githogori has joined #meego | 23:03 | |
| lardman | client | 23:03 |
| *** mlpug has quit IRC | 23:03 | |
| gabrbedd | lardman: isn't it connman that does it? | 23:04 |
| lardman | probably, but I can't start X. Does conman work from the term? | 23:05 |
| *** vlj has left #meego | 23:05 | |
| *** smoku has left #meego | 23:05 | |
| *** kov` has quit IRC | 23:06 | |
| gabrbedd | lardman: Honestly... I'm not sure what does it... but I've never had trouble connecting via DHCP over ethernet... even when X11 doesn't start. | 23:06 |
| *** snowpong has joined #meego | 23:06 | |
| gabrbedd | It just works. | 23:07 |
| gabrbedd | So, maybe it's connman doing it... maybe something else. | 23:07 |
| lardman | unfortunately it doesn't here, but I'm working on it | 23:07 |
| lardman | nah conman isn't started | 23:07 |
| lardman | nevermind, I should be able to set a static address anyway | 23:09 |
| *** snowpong_ has quit IRC | 23:09 | |
| *** swc|666 has quit IRC | 23:10 | |
| * lardman goes to check his wpa_supplicant.conf file | 23:10 | |
| *** kimmok has quit IRC | 23:11 | |
| *** baraujo has quit IRC | 23:13 | |
| *** inz has joined #meego | 23:15 | |
| *** thiagoss has quit IRC | 23:16 | |
| *** seanvk_ has joined #meego | 23:16 | |
| *** Fl3x has quit IRC | 23:16 | |
| *** eijk_ has joined #meego | 23:18 | |
| *** puffin__ has joined #meego | 23:18 | |
| *** Riude has joined #meego | 23:18 | |
| *** defor_ has joined #meego | 23:18 | |
| *** puffin has quit IRC | 23:18 | |
| *** Aranel_ has joined #meego | 23:18 | |
| *** Aranel_ has quit IRC | 23:18 | |
| *** comawhite_ has joined #meego | 23:18 | |
| *** comawhite_ has quit IRC | 23:18 | |
| *** DEADBEEF_ has joined #meego | 23:19 | |
| *** mwichmann has quit IRC | 23:19 | |
| *** JPohlmann has joined #meego | 23:19 | |
| *** Elenri1_ has joined #meego | 23:19 | |
| *** sar3th|away has joined #meego | 23:19 | |
| *** mardy has joined #meego | 23:19 | |
| *** ahf_ has joined #meego | 23:19 | |
| *** bot_JL_ has joined #meego | 23:20 | |
| *** LiraNuna_ has joined #meego | 23:20 | |
| *** toninikkanen has joined #meego | 23:20 | |
| *** neutrin0_ has joined #meego | 23:20 | |
| *** jbacklun1 has joined #meego | 23:20 | |
| *** blah has quit IRC | 23:20 | |
| *** _sabotage_ has joined #meego | 23:20 | |
| *** aivanov__ has joined #meego | 23:20 | |
| *** comawhite has quit IRC | 23:21 | |
| *** comawhite has joined #meego | 23:21 | |
| *** jannhama1 has joined #meego | 23:21 | |
| *** jsharper_ has joined #meego | 23:23 | |
| *** Glavata_ has joined #meego | 23:23 | |
| *** Fl3x has joined #meego | 23:23 | |
| *** Aranel_ has joined #meego | 23:23 | |
| *** Aranel has quit IRC | 23:24 | |
| *** Aranel_ is now known as Aranel | 23:25 | |
| *** aloisiojr has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** Glavata has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** toninikk1nen has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** _wolf_ has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** mardy_ has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** ahf has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** TSCHAKeee has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** sar3th has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** bbartek has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** pari421 has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** seanvk has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** eijk has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** Elenri1 has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** jsharper has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** matrixx has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** sabotage has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** srag has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** willer_ has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** aivanov has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** deegee__ has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** jbacklun has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** LiraNuna has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** jevin has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** defor has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** neutrin0 has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** penghb1 has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** Wellark has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** jannhama has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** bot_JL__ has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** Rrraimo has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** ivan4th has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** DEADBEEF- has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** tuho has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** anaumov has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** Riussi has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** chouchoune has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** sar3th|away is now known as sar3th | 23:25 | |
| *** DEADBEEF_ is now known as DEADBEEF- | 23:25 | |
| *** Glavata_ is now known as Glavata | 23:25 | |
| *** ahf_ is now known as ahf | 23:25 | |
| *** Aranel has quit IRC | 23:25 | |
| *** Aranel has joined #meego | 23:25 | |
| *** merlin1991 has joined #meego | 23:25 | |
| *** matrixx has joined #meego | 23:25 | |
| *** cleech has joined #meego | 23:27 | |
| *** _sabotage_ is now known as sabotage | 23:28 | |
| *** pmcgowan has quit IRC | 23:29 | |
| *** Vanadis has quit IRC | 23:29 | |
| *** tuho has joined #meego | 23:30 | |
| *** srag has joined #meego | 23:31 | |
| *** dos1 has quit IRC | 23:31 | |
| *** deegee__ has joined #meego | 23:31 | |
| *** chouchoune has joined #meego | 23:31 | |
| *** jevin has joined #meego | 23:31 | |
| *** bbartek has joined #meego | 23:31 | |
| *** _wolf_ has joined #meego | 23:32 | |
| *** anaumov has joined #meego | 23:32 | |
| *** willer_ has joined #meego | 23:32 | |
| *** Wellark has joined #meego | 23:32 | |
| *** penghb has joined #meego | 23:33 | |
| *** Rrraimo has joined #meego | 23:33 | |
| *** aloisiojr has joined #meego | 23:34 | |
| *** jayne has joined #meego | 23:35 | |
| *** puffin has joined #meego | 23:36 | |
| *** puffin__ has quit IRC | 23:36 | |
| *** Frye has quit IRC | 23:36 | |
| *** lynxis has joined #meego | 23:37 | |
| *** Aparna has quit IRC | 23:37 | |
| *** Vanadis has joined #meego | 23:38 | |
| *** TSCHAKeee has joined #meego | 23:38 | |
| *** snowpong has quit IRC | 23:40 | |
| *** vblazquez has quit IRC | 23:41 | |
| *** vblazquez has joined #meego | 23:43 | |
| *** jjardon has quit IRC | 23:44 | |
| *** MoRpHeUz has quit IRC | 23:45 | |
| *** nnl has quit IRC | 23:45 | |
| *** defor_ is now known as defor | 23:45 | |
| *** pmcgowan has joined #meego | 23:46 | |
| jeremiah | lastlog | 23:47 |
| *** jeremiah has left #meego | 23:47 | |
| *** notmart has quit IRC | 23:48 | |
| *** puffin has quit IRC | 23:49 | |
| *** sd_ has quit IRC | 23:51 | |
| *** puffin has joined #meego | 23:53 | |
| *** BluX has quit IRC | 23:55 | |
| *** dchaverri261 has quit IRC | 23:56 | |
| *** hlzxy has quit IRC | 23:56 | |
| *** bbartek has quit IRC | 23:59 | |
| *** arfoll has quit IRC | 23:59 | |
| *** rainmanja has joined #meego | 23:59 | |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.15.1 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
