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| hirabayashitaro | hi everyone, I was looking at the planning of 1.2 release. Do you think that handset 1.2 will be usable as main SO on a phone? | 00:08 |
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| andre__ | hirabayashitaro, depends on the hardware I'd say | 00:18 |
| hirabayashitaro | andre__: well, my oncerns are about N900, but I think that most of the features re common to any device | 00:19 |
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| anonnnnn | ji | 01:33 |
| anonnnnn | hi | 01:33 |
| CosmoHill | hi | 01:34 |
| anonnnnn | is there a way to develop for meego using ubuntu? I dont have a netbook, but I want to port my app from linux to meego | 01:36 |
| CosmoHill | I believe the MeeGo SDK works on ubuntu | 01:36 |
| niala1 | hu | 01:37 |
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| CosmoHill | lu niala1 | 01:37 |
| niala1 | i believe i can fly, i believe i can touch the sky. I believe ai can develop meego lala lalala lala | 01:38 |
| niala1 | nice day CosmoHill? | 01:39 |
| CosmoHill | lazy, watched a few times and took some phoots | 01:39 |
| CosmoHill | *photos | 01:39 |
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| CosmoHill | someone tell me why I'm watching the Super Bowl | 01:42 |
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| niala1 | CosmoHill: what kind of photos? | 01:42 |
| CosmoHill | mostly sky photos of clouds / sun / moon | 01:42 |
| niala1 | cool | 01:43 |
| niala1 | CosmoHill: I almost die on mountain bike today :) | 01:44 |
| CosmoHill | :o | 01:45 |
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| niala1 | CosmoHill: a rocks in a puddle of mud | 01:46 |
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| CosmoHill | I need to get riding my bike some more | 01:48 |
| niala1 | yes when the weather is not to cold or to hot | 01:49 |
| CosmoHill | UK has crazy winds at the moment | 01:49 |
| niala1 | i hate wind on bike | 01:50 |
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| CosmoHill | niala1: http://cross-lfs.org/~cosmo/bike/DSC_0052.JPG | 01:51 |
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| CosmoHill | I've replaced the grips and peddles since the picture was taken | 01:53 |
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| niala1 | a true montain bike. mine a hybrid http://www.evanscycles.com/products/specialized/crosstrail-sport-2010-hybrid-bike-ec019786 2009 in white | 01:55 |
| CosmoHill | oo I see | 01:56 |
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| CosmoHill | http://kustompcs.co.uk/graeme/DSC00290.JPG | 01:57 |
| CosmoHill | my mate on his stinky | 01:57 |
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| niala1 | :) | 02:00 |
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| CosmoHill | cyas | 02:42 |
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| Kooldude | Holy moly you boys hear the latest rumor? Nokia dropping meego like a sack of potatoes... Comments? | 02:58 |
| rohanpm | (1) channel doesn't contain only boys (2) rumors are stupid | 02:59 |
| Kooldude | Sorry didnt mean to offend. But where there is some there is fire | 02:59 |
| Kooldude | *Where there is some there is fire | 03:00 |
| Kooldude | *where there is smoke | 03:00 |
| Kooldude | This dude is saying nokia ade dropping meego...kinda explains why aari jaaksi left town | 03:01 |
| berndhs | some guy with a blog wants attention | 03:03 |
| Kooldude | Why would a guy who started the meego project leave? Because he knew what was cooking! | 03:03 |
| wmarone | he didn't start the meego project | 03:03 |
| ljp | jaaksi left months ago | 03:03 |
| Kooldude | Yeah but jaaksi was here when meego was announced and then when elop was rumored to come on board kaboom jaaksi is gonzo! | 03:04 |
| wmarone | Kooldude: if they were going to kill meego in that fashion they would have done so MONTHS ago | 03:04 |
| wmarone | before more money and time was spent | 03:04 |
| Kooldude | You think? Maybe | 03:04 |
| Kooldude | So what about elop announcement this friday? | 03:05 |
| wmarone | who knows | 03:05 |
| wmarone | I like the rumor that it's office and crap for Nokia meego devices | 03:05 |
| wmarone | but who knows | 03:05 |
| wmarone | no one here works directly for nokia (or if they do, won't say anything) | 03:05 |
| Kooldude | Look i love maemo and all but nokia doesnt have stinkin chance with meego | 03:06 |
| wmarone | sure they do | 03:06 |
| Kooldude | Theyre late to the game | 03:06 |
| wmarone | no matter what they will be | 03:06 |
| wmarone | but | 03:06 |
| * TSCHAKeee gives Kooldude a mushroom print. | 03:06 | |
| wmarone | out of the gate they could easily beat WP7 | 03:07 |
| wmarone | which is missing features that one would have expected from Microsoft ages ago | 03:07 |
| TSCHAKeee | (immature? yes, but roughly equivalent to someone coming in here screaming rumour as fact and trolling as a result) | 03:07 |
| Kooldude | Yeah but market perception is everything....meego lack the eye candy and developers dont give a rat's ass about meego | 03:08 |
| wmarone | meego is an infrastructure layer, not the shiny face end-users see | 03:08 |
| wmarone | at least, all the iPhone/Android fans who glance at meego don't bother to understand what it is | 03:08 |
| TSCHAKeee | end users won't' see meego as an end user product. | 03:08 |
| Kooldude | So how will nokia win this battle? | 03:08 |
| wmarone | by doing what nokia needs to do | 03:09 |
| TSCHAKeee | Nokia will take it, and extend it for their needs | 03:09 |
| TSCHAKeee | as will ANYONE ELSE using meego | 03:09 |
| Kooldude | Which is? | 03:09 |
| wmarone | deliver a good user experience on the device, and provide services users want | 03:09 |
| wmarone | that's nokia's job | 03:09 |
| TSCHAKeee | MeeGo is here for anyone who is developing an embedded appliance | 03:09 |
| TSCHAKeee | and wants a solid operating environment to run on it | 03:09 |
| TSCHAKeee | embedded device here being a Phone, a TV, a netbook, an in-vehicle device, whatever. | 03:10 |
| wmarone | a solid operating environment not wholly directed by a single corporation | 03:10 |
| Kooldude | shareholders are furious with the kiddy os nokia has and so far meego is nothing but wishful thinking | 03:10 |
| wmarone | are you one of those doom fetishists who likes to post on TMO? | 03:10 |
| TSCHAKeee | the other thing, Nokia is not meego, meego is not Nokia | 03:10 |
| TSCHAKeee | MeeGo is run by the Linux Foundation | 03:10 |
| TSCHAKeee | of which, Intel and Nokia are the most visible contributors of engineering and marketing resources. | 03:11 |
| TSCHAKeee | why is this so hard for people to grasp? | 03:11 |
| berndhs | everyone and their mother is in on meego now | 03:11 |
| TSCHAKeee | Nokia has commited considerable resources to MeeGo Handset, and they will release at least ONE product with it. | 03:12 |
| Kooldude | You gotta remember: elop is not an Intel loverboy. I have it on good source that when he was at MS he was one of the anti Intel crusaders. THAT my friends speaks volumes. Volumes! | 03:12 |
| wmarone | no it doesn't | 03:12 |
| Kooldude | Youre jokking buddy. Trust me. | 03:12 |
| TSCHAKeee | you really aren't seeing the picture here at all, Kooldude. | 03:12 |
| wmarone | Kooldude: and you're making shit up :p | 03:12 |
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| TSCHAKeee | trust me, you're in here with people who actually work at the places you're claiming to make shit up about. | 03:13 |
| TSCHAKeee | you might | 03:13 |
| TSCHAKeee | want | 03:13 |
| TSCHAKeee | to watch what you say. | 03:13 |
| TSCHAKeee | but I think you've already significantly damaged your credibility. | 03:13 |
| Kooldude | How can an Intel doubter now all of a sudden love the relationship with the said Intel? Connect the dots boys, connect the damn dots. | 03:13 |
| TSCHAKeee | ... | 03:14 |
| wmarone | Kooldude: stop trying to pose speculation as fact | 03:14 |
| TSCHAKeee | you have no facts, boy. | 03:14 |
| TSCHAKeee | none | 03:14 |
| TSCHAKeee | zero | 03:14 |
| Kooldude | Look im just talking about shit posted on internet, why cant we discuss that. Im not saying its the bible, chill dude. | 03:14 |
| * TSCHAKeee laughs | 03:14 | |
| TSCHAKeee | did you not hear what we said? | 03:14 |
| berndhs | no you're saying you ahve knowledge, when you don't | 03:14 |
| wmarone | Kooldude: you're trying to discuss random speculation mixed with likely made up nonsense | 03:15 |
| wmarone | I'd rather just sit back and wait | 03:15 |
| TSCHAKeee | this channel has many people, who work at the very companies you are slandering. | 03:15 |
| TSCHAKeee | people who are a lot closer to the truth | 03:15 |
| Kooldude | Laugh all you want dude. Your little meego project faces an uphill battle and you know it, so may i suggest taking a chill pill? | 03:15 |
| TSCHAKeee | than you. | 03:15 |
| * TSCHAKeee looks over at wmarone all boggled. | 03:15 | |
| wmarone | Kooldude: what, so you didn't come here to discuss meego, you came to discuss "doom" and how we're done for, right? | 03:15 |
| berndhs | I think is is MeegoBoy or whatever his nick was | 03:16 |
| wmarone | or rather, you just want us to agree with you | 03:16 |
| wmarone | berndhs: quite possible | 03:16 |
| Kooldude | Im not saying the rumors are true but isnt this internet's beauty? Free discussion? Or would you boys rather operate like the good old Soviet Union. Got it komrade? | 03:16 |
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| wmarone | Kooldude: you aren't here after free discussion :P | 03:17 |
| Kooldude | I am. | 03:17 |
| TSCHAKeee | wow man | 03:17 |
| TSCHAKeee | wow... | 03:17 |
| TSCHAKeee | social tact = 0 | 03:17 |
| Kooldude | ? | 03:17 |
| wmarone | we told you our opinoin of the rumors you wholeheartedly believe in, but are reacting in a way that tells me the only thing you want to hear is "yeah man we agree" | 03:17 |
| wmarone | opinion* | 03:17 |
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| TSCHAKeee | Kooldude: You have the emotional disposition of someone who is quite frankly not open for civil discussion. | 03:18 |
| Kooldude | wmarone: no i'm not saying you must agree... | 03:18 |
| wmarone | Kooldude: but your response is wholly one of "you're wrong because you disagree" | 03:18 |
| Kooldude | But all I get is hostility from certain folks with pickles up their ass... Err... Noses. | 03:18 |
| wmarone | Kooldude: we're just not convinced, in the slightest, by the rumors and idle, baseless speculation | 03:19 |
| TSCHAKeee | Kooldude: you came here, spouting off rumour, yelling it at the top of your lungs. We dismiss it on the grounds that it is just that... rumour. | 03:19 |
| berndhs | Kooldude: you troll for negative responses, that's why | 03:19 |
| Kooldude | May i ask why youre a hostile bunch? | 03:19 |
| wmarone | Kooldude: hostile? | 03:19 |
| Kooldude | No | 03:19 |
| TSCHAKeee | hostile? | 03:19 |
| Kooldude | Let me clarify.... | 03:19 |
| TSCHAKeee | what are you on, man? | 03:19 |
| Kooldude | I come in here looking for discussion and all i get is name calling? | 03:20 |
| wmarone | TSCHAKeee: we're not being completely passive, therefore we're hostile | 03:20 |
| TSCHAKeee | wmarone: ...he's seems to have the emotional maturity of a 12 year old. | 03:20 |
| Kooldude | So if nokia does something with meego and announces something on feb 11 will you all apologize to me? Im not saying theyre dropping it but there WILL be changes. Deal? | 03:21 |
| TSCHAKeee | Kooldude: if I may give you one final piece of information. MeeGo is governed by the Linux Foundation. Ultimately this means, even if Nokia ditches.. if Intel ditches.. guess what? There will still be MeeGo. | 03:21 |
| wmarone | Kooldude: why should we, you know nothing more than anyone else | 03:21 |
| wmarone | a lucky guess or two makes you no more right than anyone else | 03:21 |
| Kooldude | wmarone im not saying that i do | 03:21 |
| Kooldude | Why do you guys there are so many negative talks on the maemo/meego boards? | 03:22 |
| Kooldude | *think | 03:23 |
| TSCHAKeee | there are negative talks on every message board on this planet | 03:23 |
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| wmarone | Kooldude: because it's the internet | 03:23 |
| TSCHAKeee | no matter what, you will piss somebody off. | 03:23 |
| Kooldude | Fair. | 03:23 |
| TSCHAKeee | go look around the iphone and android message boards | 03:24 |
| Kooldude | So why then are you guys attacking me constantly? Am i coming in here and name calling? | 03:24 |
| TSCHAKeee | it balances out to the same ratios. | 03:24 |
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| wmarone | Kooldude: you mistake our questioning of your information for attacks | 03:24 |
| TSCHAKeee | Kooldude: you presented your speculation, we responded saying it was speculation, you got pissed. | 03:24 |
| TSCHAKeee | Kooldude: you, unfortunately, seem to lack basic social tact. | 03:25 |
| TSCHAKeee | Kooldude: in that... it's not only what you say, but how you say it. | 03:25 |
| Kooldude | No. You called me names THEN i got pissed, you didnt present an intelligent counter argument like a civilized human. You gave me a low blow and said TROLL ! | 03:25 |
| wmarone | Kooldude: that was AFTER you persisted in pushing the speculation as fact | 03:25 |
| wmarone | so we lost all faith in your point | 03:26 |
| TSCHAKeee | preeeety much. | 03:26 |
| wmarone | mind you, you aren't the first person to come in here and attack the project with baseless speculation | 03:26 |
| Kooldude | May i say that the word TROLL is a a favourite lexicon of another group of annoyingly persistent people: fan bois | 03:26 |
| wmarone | yes, I like linux distributions | 03:27 |
| wmarone | not nokia/intel/whatever, but serious, open source linux distributions | 03:27 |
| wmarone | unlike damn near every other mobile OS out there | 03:27 |
| TSCHAKeee | i like meego, and android, and the iphone, OH NOES! I CAN'T DO THAT! | 03:27 |
| Kooldude | I am not calling you fan bois but i dont think its pure coincidence that the word TROLL is the favorite line of defense for the said fan bois | 03:27 |
| TSCHAKeee | baaaaackpedal | 03:28 |
| TSCHAKeee | ;) | 03:28 |
| Kooldude | No | 03:28 |
| TSCHAKeee | ;) | 03:28 |
| Kooldude | No | 03:28 |
| berndhs | I think its behavioural | 03:29 |
| wmarone | hehe | 03:29 |
| TSCHAKeee | berndhs: absolutely. | 03:29 |
| Kooldude | So you boys are all saying that the said rumors are false and that meego is in fact nokia's OS of choice for their top end devices? Correct? | 03:30 |
| berndhs | dunno, we'll see what he says next week | 03:31 |
| Kooldude | Silence? | 03:31 |
| wmarone | no, we're saying that they're RUMORS | 03:31 |
| Kooldude | Fair | 03:31 |
| wmarone | we'll see what happens in the next couple of weeks | 03:31 |
| wmarone | the end | 03:31 |
| TSCHAKeee | regardless of what happens, I continue using MeeGo on my research hardware. | 03:31 |
| Kooldude | Cool | 03:31 |
| TSCHAKeee | another way to say it is, "I don't give a flying fuck." :) | 03:32 |
| Kooldude | Interesting train of thought | 03:32 |
| wmarone | indeed, all that the next week will determine is whom I buy my next phone from | 03:32 |
| wmarone | meego will still exist | 03:32 |
| Kooldude | True | 03:32 |
| Kooldude | We have to remember one thing: after the maemo fiasco of unfullfilled promises the market is doubtful. Am i correct? You have to agree. | 03:33 |
| wmarone | no I don't | 03:33 |
| wmarone | :P | 03:33 |
| Kooldude | Abandoning OS doesnt help the cause my friends. Glad we agree. | 03:34 |
| TSCHAKeee | unfulfilled promises? Maemo was used as the operating system in four devices. | 03:34 |
| TSCHAKeee | the lessons in Maemo have been carried into MeeGo Core and Handset | 03:34 |
| TSCHAKeee | how is this unfulfilled? | 03:34 |
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| Kooldude | The N900 was beinng proclaimed as the second coming of messiah and promptly discarded of after a short time on the market. Correct? | 03:35 |
| wmarone | no | 03:35 |
| wmarone | iirc, the N97 was the main line phone at the time | 03:35 |
| Kooldude | Hmmm... Pray explain | 03:35 |
| wmarone | the N900 was marketed directly to the audience that bought into the previous internet tablets | 03:36 |
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| Kooldude | I do recall N900 plastered all over the walls in London. No? | 03:36 |
| wmarone | save in the UK, which was the only place it was actually marketed | 03:36 |
| wmarone | and that baffled some Nokia people, too | 03:36 |
| TSCHAKeee | very | 03:36 |
| Kooldude | So Nokia fucked up. Correct? Glad we agree. | 03:36 |
| wmarone | eh, I got what I wanted :) | 03:37 |
| TSCHAKeee | wow man, you're grasping for straws. | 03:37 |
| berndhs | i'm glad you agree with yourself so much :) | 03:37 |
| wmarone | TSCHAKeee: he's also stuffing words of agreement in our mouths :) | 03:37 |
| TSCHAKeee | yes | 03:37 |
| TSCHAKeee | he thinks he's a master of psychology | 03:37 |
| Kooldude | The lowes of all blows is when they pretend the os is supported by the community... What a laughable load of crapola. | 03:37 |
| TSCHAKeee | ... | 03:38 |
| TSCHAKeee | it is actually | 03:38 |
| TSCHAKeee | always has been | 03:38 |
| Kooldude | So i had to wait for some dude (no offence) to come up for an MMS application so that i could send pictures to my friends. Do you boys call that a fulfilled promise? | 03:39 |
| wmarone | I don't think nokia ever promised MMS support | 03:39 |
| Kooldude | Ok...fair | 03:39 |
| wmarone | (and hearing how broken MMS is as a protocol, I'm glad they didn't.) | 03:39 |
| TSCHAKeee | the iPhone didn't have MMS support until much later..two years later. | 03:39 |
| TSCHAKeee | Nokia did not promise MMS support...somebody wanted it...so they wrotei t | 03:39 |
| TSCHAKeee | and did it in such a way it's actually very integrated | 03:40 |
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| Kooldude | I dont give (let me borrow from your dictionary) a "flying fuck" about the iphone. Lets stay on the subject of this chatboard please. Thanks. | 03:40 |
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| TSCHAKeee | okay, so strike that sentence from my response | 03:41 |
| TSCHAKeee | my response is still valid | 03:41 |
| TSCHAKeee | next? :) | 03:41 |
| Kooldude | Ok...fair | 03:41 |
| Kooldude | Look Boys, all i am saying is after the maemo failure its easy to be a skeptic. | 03:42 |
| TSCHAKeee | maemo wasn't a failure | 03:42 |
| Kooldude | Your opinion | 03:42 |
| TSCHAKeee | yes. | 03:42 |
| Kooldude | Your opinion is in minority | 03:42 |
| TSCHAKeee | but also in fact that the majority of maemo lives on in MeeGo Core and Handset. | 03:42 |
| Kooldude | The boggest disappointment was the supposed avaibility of apps. It was a myth. When you go to maemo repos 75% of apps are abandonware. Correct? | 03:43 |
| Kooldude | *biggest | 03:44 |
| wmarone | how'd you come up with that 75% number? | 03:44 |
| wmarone | hm? | 03:44 |
| TSCHAKeee | community programmers write the software they want. | 03:44 |
| Kooldude | Some half asses written apps forgot by their owners. | 03:44 |
| Kooldude | Asses | 03:44 |
| Kooldude | Assed | 03:44 |
| TSCHAKeee | there is nothing that says they have to keep on making new versions. | 03:44 |
| wmarone | Kooldude: so are you just moving to insult people now? | 03:44 |
| Kooldude | How so? | 03:44 |
| wmarone | insulting people who have no obligation to you at all? | 03:45 |
| TSCHAKeee | key word "obligation" | 03:45 |
| TSCHAKeee | as in... they have no obligation | 03:45 |
| TSCHAKeee | the majority of said software is released under the GPL | 03:45 |
| TSCHAKeee | which disclaims warranty and obligation from the author. | 03:45 |
| Kooldude | How will meego be different? How will big boys such as EA support this platform. How? How? I dont give a rats ass about an angry birds clone, shall we? | 03:46 |
| wmarone | Kooldude: you seem quite angry | 03:46 |
| Kooldude | No | 03:46 |
| Kooldude | Just asking relevant questions. | 03:46 |
| wmarone | and you /do/ sound like MeegoBoy | 03:46 |
| * TSCHAKeee laughs profusely | 03:46 | |
| Kooldude | wmarone: i beg your pardon? | 03:47 |
| Raim | Kooldude: maybe the maemo/meego platform just isn't what you are looking for? maybe you should turn to android or something else if you expect lots of apps :) | 03:47 |
| berndhs | I think its him, same style | 03:47 |
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| wmarone | oh his phrasing and angle was a similarly demanding "explain it all to me, perfectly, right now or you're a failure" style | 03:47 |
| Kooldude | wmarone: what do you mean? | 03:48 |
| wmarone | Raim: no reason MeeGo can't have lots of apps | 03:48 |
| TSCHAKeee | exactly, no reason at all | 03:48 |
| TSCHAKeee | but is it our responsibility to market this platform to software publishers? | 03:48 |
| TSCHAKeee | no. | 03:49 |
| Kooldude | But you still didnt answer how you expect the big boys to jump on board. | 03:49 |
| ljp | nokia dn intel arent 'big boys'? | 03:49 |
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| Kooldude | I am talking about publishers | 03:49 |
| wmarone | Kooldude: if handset makers roll with meego, they'll follow. porting to meego is easier than porting to wp7, at the very least :) | 03:49 |
| Kooldude | Maybe | 03:49 |
| Raim | wmarone: I agree, but his comparison was with current maemo. and right now, there aren't as many apps available. | 03:50 |
| TSCHAKeee | again, keep in mind, you're dealing with knowledgeable people in here, Kooldude | 03:50 |
| wmarone | Raim: ah, in that case I expect far more both in terms of community as well as commercial apps | 03:50 |
| Kooldude | You keep referring to yourselves as knowledgable people. Great. Love ya boys. But.... So what???? | 03:51 |
| wmarone | Qt Creator makes it much easier to jump in than Gtk does :) | 03:51 |
| Raim | also there are always a few dozen idealists who appreciate the openess of the platform much more than functionality ;) | 03:51 |
| Kooldude | Qt is bloatware | 03:51 |
| wmarone | Raim: of course, which is why I still like using my N900 :) | 03:51 |
| Kooldude | Bloatware creator | 03:51 |
| TSCHAKeee | Kooldude: are you a software developer? | 03:51 |
| TSCHAKeee | Kooldude: or have you developed software? | 03:52 |
| Kooldude | Yes. With extensive experience and knowledge | 03:52 |
| Kooldude | Can i give you an example? | 03:52 |
| TSCHAKeee | Kooldude: cool, we could use the help. | 03:52 |
| wmarone | Kooldude: please do | 03:52 |
| Kooldude | The recently released "bubble" app for symbian was coded in qt and it 10 megs in size, 10 god damned megs in size for a pity little bubble app? That is unacceptable and is a recognized fear with developes i talk to. | 03:53 |
| Kooldude | Trust me | 03:54 |
| wmarone | Kooldude: beats me as to why it's huge. but then, not every Qt app is 10MB in size (perhaps it has the qt libraries statically linked... who knows...) | 03:55 |
| Kooldude | Its bloatware | 03:55 |
| TSCHAKeee | sigh | 03:55 |
| TSCHAKeee | i vote we just put this guy on /ignore. | 03:55 |
| wmarone | you insist that but I don't see your basis | 03:55 |
| Kooldude | Care to explain mr tschakee? | 03:55 |
| TSCHAKeee | Kooldude: i'm still waiting for your software creds. | 03:56 |
| TSCHAKeee | ;) | 03:56 |
| berndhs | i've written a few Qt apps, they aren't very big unless you ship all the Qt libs with them | 03:56 |
| Kooldude | Tschakee: your jaw would drop to the ground if you witnessed my work. Trust me. | 03:57 |
| TSCHAKeee | Kooldude: and before you bounce back at me, "What about you?" ... I would direct you to http://www.linuxmce.org/ ... the largest most comprehensive smart home system in existance. | 03:57 |
| Kooldude | Cool. | 03:57 |
| TSCHAKeee | Kooldude: i've shown you mine..what about yours? ;) | 03:58 |
| berndhs | Kooldude: and you can't reveal your credentials because of privacy concerns of other people, right ? | 03:58 |
| Kooldude | Good work tschakee... Respect man. | 03:58 |
| Kooldude | No. I will not reveal my work because you know what? You lot would not believe it anyways and would laugh it off and that ugly word TROLL would come up again. Understand? | 03:59 |
| * TSCHAKeee laughs. | 03:59 | |
| TSCHAKeee | such a sad little boy, you are. | 03:59 |
| berndhs | i think the reason it probably another one :) | 04:00 |
| wmarone | Kooldude: right, so we're supposed to believe you without anything to back what you say up? | 04:00 |
| * TSCHAKeee pats Kooldude on the head.. don't worry.. your testicles will drop, soon enough. | 04:00 | |
| wmarone | man, that's the exact same tilt MeegoBoy took last time he was here ;) | 04:00 |
| Kooldude | Let me put it this way. I was once in the upper echeleons of coding software at MS... We're talking extremely high level stuff. But it's all history now. | 04:00 |
| TSCHAKeee | and he keeps going | 04:01 |
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| TSCHAKeee | Kooldude: so, I'm guessing you know Landon Dyer, then? | 04:01 |
| Kooldude | Yes, keep on insulting me please. | 04:01 |
| TSCHAKeee | really? You were in the systems group? | 04:01 |
| wmarone | Kooldude: we simply don't believe you, and you've given us no reason to | 04:01 |
| Kooldude | No, not systems | 04:01 |
| TSCHAKeee | Kooldude: how do you know Landon? | 04:02 |
| Kooldude | BUT even though i have vast experience and knowledge in coding and programming lanuages i dont act as GOD | 04:02 |
| Kooldude | Landon? | 04:02 |
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| Kooldude | I have written code little bit more complicated than what you folks would normally be accustomed to. | 04:03 |
| berndhs | oh sure | 04:04 |
| TSCHAKeee | ... | 04:04 |
| TSCHAKeee | sigh. | 04:04 |
| Kooldude | May i ask you a question? Why would i come in here and lie? Whats the purpose? Think about it. | 04:04 |
| berndhs | I think its a habit | 04:04 |
| TSCHAKeee | sociopathy. | 04:04 |
| Kooldude | Peace brothers. Chill out a little. Lifes too short. | 04:04 |
| Kooldude | Funny how in the last 45 minutes or so i am yet to call you boys one single name. Not one. Yet i have heard all kinds of insults thrown at me SOCIOPATH, TROLL, SAD BOY...etc. Etc. Interesting no? | 04:06 |
| berndhs | not really | 04:06 |
| Kooldude | I have to go now. Dont cry when i am gone because i shall return. i am the dark knight of the internet. Good night. Peace. | 04:09 |
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| ljp | heh | 04:22 |
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| vgrade | enna on meego on joggler, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByIR-YmVOgU | 04:54 |
| berndhs | looks fluent | 04:59 |
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| JunJi | Anybody could run the qemu-n900-pr1x as a runtime on madde? I made it by copying the absent file from nokia qt but can't connect using ssh.. guess it has a different username not meego as usual | 05:06 |
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| Jartza | Sources: Nokia to Abandon Symbian/Meego, Adopt Windows Phone 7, and Move its HQ to U.S. | 05:09 |
| Jartza | http://technmarketing.com/cellphone/sources-nokia-to-abandon-symbianmeego-adopt-windows-phone-7-and-move-its-hq-to-u-s/ | 05:09 |
| Jartza | :) | 05:10 |
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| berndhs | I should make one up too | 05:11 |
| wmarone | oh you posted it here too | 05:12 |
| Jartza | berndhs: how about "Nokia to abandon Qt and ARM...." | 05:12 |
| Jartza | :) | 05:12 |
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| JunJi | hmm.. the news is surprising | 05:14 |
| wmarone | that's not news | 05:15 |
| JunJi | true. just a source | 05:16 |
| wmarone | it's a | 05:16 |
| wmarone | "source" which could be anything | 05:16 |
| berndhs | could be someone who wants movement in Nokia stock | 05:19 |
| wmarone | sure, which is why all those "financial analysts" have been speaking up on the matter | 05:20 |
| wmarone | despite knowing as little as anyone else | 05:20 |
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| Jartza | wmarone: or less :) | 05:21 |
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| TSCHAKeee | I really like the joggler hardware | 05:25 |
| TSCHAKeee | it's a shame that OpenPeak doesn't sell to the public | 05:25 |
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| wmarone | TSCHAKeee: sorta like Aava | 05:32 |
| wmarone | I'd love to get my hands on their hardware, but not at $2k :/ | 05:33 |
| TSCHAKeee | i got an invitation to get the AAVA CDK, but i didn't have the cash at the time | 05:33 |
| TSCHAKeee | but really, the phone i am more interested in, if i'm going to get a CDK? The TI Blaze | 05:33 |
| TSCHAKeee | they crammed a #@(%#@( DLP PROJECTOR IN IT! | 05:33 |
| wmarone | blaze isn't a phone though, it's a monster devkit | 05:34 |
| wmarone | well | 05:34 |
| wmarone | I'm sure you can make it work like one | 05:34 |
| TSCHAKeee | yeah, i know | 05:34 |
| wmarone | but if you thought the streak was silly as a phone... :D | 05:34 |
| TSCHAKeee | i would argue the same thing about the aava | 05:34 |
| wmarone | technically, yes | 05:34 |
| TSCHAKeee | or the LG wtf-was-it-990 | 05:34 |
| wmarone | yes | 05:34 |
| TSCHAKeee | aka the TYCHO MONOLITH | 05:34 |
| berndhs | the future of displays is projectors, teensy ones :) | 05:34 |
| wmarone | blaze is something else entirely (we had one at the office a while back) | 05:34 |
| TSCHAKeee | i saw the blaze at a show not too long ago | 05:35 |
| TSCHAKeee | and flipped out | 05:35 |
| TSCHAKeee | was like whoooa | 05:35 |
| TSCHAKeee | it's one of the reasons I like the pandaboard so much.. OMAP4 has a LOT of potential | 05:36 |
| TSCHAKeee | I'm wanting to support the PandaBoard as a media director, soon | 05:36 |
| TSCHAKeee | (for linuxmce) | 05:36 |
| wmarone | oh yeah, the blaze is cool | 05:36 |
| TSCHAKeee | to replace the x86 stuff | 05:36 |
| TSCHAKeee | you know... I came from Texas.. and.. TI has always been...that quiet company... | 05:37 |
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| TSCHAKeee | ...that just sells silicon to everybody else... | 05:37 |
| TSCHAKeee | it really surprised me when i started seeing the omap3 and omap4, and how aggressive they're pushing it | 05:37 |
| TSCHAKeee | not just in the traditional channels | 05:37 |
| TSCHAKeee | but wanting to cultivate a hobbyist community too out of it | 05:38 |
| TSCHAKeee | genuinely so | 05:38 |
| TSCHAKeee | it puts a smile on my face. | 05:38 |
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| Avinash | hi | 11:59 |
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| Stskeeps | hi | 11:59 |
| Avinash | Does any one have idea to get OBS credentials for meego? | 12:00 |
| X-Fade | Avinash: For which obs? Core or community? | 12:00 |
| Avinash | X-Fade:For Core | 12:01 |
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| Avinash | x-fade: sorry i am a n00b ... please dont mind | 12:01 |
| X-Fade | Avinash: Then you need to file a bug requesting access. | 12:02 |
| X-Fade | Avinash: And describe there what you are working on and why you need an account. | 12:02 |
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| Avinash | i want to start a project on speech recognition api for meego | 12:03 |
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| Avinash | X-Fade:can you help me in providing some pointers for receiving obs credentials.... | 12:07 |
| Venemo_N900 | good morning | 12:07 |
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| arfoll | will the mrst-mtf images work on the aava DV1? | 13:06 |
| Stskeeps | give it a try? | 13:07 |
| arfoll | i guess i'll have to | 13:08 |
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| Alex-Meego | is there radio RDS support in meego IVI nowadays? | 13:12 |
| Stskeeps | Alex-Meego: if your kernel supports it, maybe the rds daemon you found the other day works | 13:13 |
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| Alex-Meego | thanks | 13:15 |
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| Alex-Meego | another questing: after connecting usb gps device to meego ivi I have new /dev ttyUSB0. But when I start lightmaps demo from QtMobility I get "Warning: Unable to get connection to Geoclue bus ... CRITICAL: dbus_g_proxy_call: assertion 'DBUS_IS_G_PROXY (proxy)' failed. Segmentation fault (core dumped)". How to start and use geoclue and its daemons? | 13:19 |
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| poutsi | hey, when installing the sdk onto netbook, do the releases have to match? the sdk install docs give the option of specifying the sdk repo to be "meego/trunk" or "meego/1.1" but don't really say what the choice means | 13:31 |
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| igo | I heared that Nokia will give up MeeGo. Is this right? | 14:05 |
| poutsi | igo, if that happens, I'm sure you will be able to read about it at meego.com | 14:06 |
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| Stskeeps | igo: rumours say a lot, yet we're still at work | 14:08 |
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| Alex-Meego | on 11th we will know more about Nokia plans | 14:12 |
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| arfoll | ok looks like mrst image doesn't work on aava :-( | 14:29 |
| Stskeeps | ia32-mtf ? | 14:29 |
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| arfoll | Stskeeps, no that doesn't work, i've tried that before | 14:31 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 14:32 |
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| Alex-Meego | help me with GPS, please. May be someone knows (Sorry for the same question again who read this). | 15:29 |
| Alex-Meego | after connecting usb gps device to meego ivi I have a new /dev ttyUSB0. But when I start lightmaps demo from QtMobility I get "Warning: Unable to get connection to Geoclue bus ... CRITICAL: dbus_g_proxy_call: assertion 'DBUS_IS_G_PROXY (proxy)' failed. Segmentation fault (core dumped)". How to start and use geoclue and its daemons? | 15:29 |
| Alex-Meego | I've been researching this problem for few hours but nothing got | 15:30 |
| Stskeeps | is geoclue started? | 15:30 |
| Alex-Meego | * I have no experience with geoclue. So how should I start it? | 15:30 |
| Stskeeps | install it? :P | 15:31 |
| Alex-Meego | zypper search geoclue finds 2 items: geoclue (installed) and its -devel | 15:32 |
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| Alex-Meego | so I think that it was installed | 15:33 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 15:34 |
| Stskeeps | are you running as root or meego? | 15:34 |
| Alex-Meego | yes. Meego IVI | 15:34 |
| Alex-Meego | as root from xTerminal | 15:34 |
| Stskeeps | as root might be an issue? | 15:34 |
| Alex-Meego | hm... root may be as problem in that case? | 15:35 |
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| Alex-Meego | i'll retry | 15:35 |
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| Alex-Meego | so I tried to start from file manager and from new terminal without accessing root - there's no reaction when I start. Nothing happens. No output to terminal | 15:38 |
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| Alex-Meego | Stskeeps, do you have an idea? | 15:40 |
| Stskeeps | no sorry | 15:40 |
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| Alex-Meego | well, dzięki za pomoc | 15:40 |
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| Alex-Meego | Now I even get "gypsy_control_create: assertion 'device_name != NULL' ..." | 15:46 |
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| rsadhu | hi | 15:51 |
| rsadhu | there | 15:51 |
| rsadhu | i need help, on maemo platform , i need a way to receive an screen change event on a mobile device (dali) | 15:51 |
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| andre__ | rsadhu: this is a meego channel. #maemo is for maemo. | 15:51 |
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| rsadhu | ok andre | 15:51 |
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| rsadhu | but both are using qt as an application framework | 15:52 |
| rsadhu | so i tried QDesktopWidget class | 15:52 |
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| maximus76 | hi | 16:18 |
| Alex-Meego | hi | 16:18 |
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| jeremiah | X-Fade: ping | 17:48 |
| jeremiah | Is the way to get a log in to the MeeGo OBS still just to file a bug? | 17:48 |
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| andre__ | jeremiah: yes (at least according to the new tickets that I see :-P ) | 17:51 |
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| KevinB | People! R you ready to welcome the new wP7 powered by Nokia, next Fiday :D? | 17:53 |
| Stskeeps | KevinB: don't troll | 17:53 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:53 |
| KevinB | haha, I knew was going to get lynched for saying this ;) | 17:55 |
| chem|st | KevinB: no we don't, but strap your pants and hang you to the top notch of the boat | 17:57 |
| Matan[M] | oh god... WP7 sux... | 17:57 |
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| chem|st | Matan[M]: you can tell that in general µsoft sux | 17:57 |
| * Matan[M] thinking in Polish language about wp7 "co za gówno to jest... niech to spłonie razem z tym całym gównem win-gównem, moje ręce są zbrukane ścierwem z MS" | 17:58 | |
| KevinB | As long as Nokia doesnt change its long term strategy, never mind its short term one (money money money , must B funny) | 17:59 |
| Matan[M] | if nokia will produce phones with WP7 is a stop to buy any smarthone | 18:01 |
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| jeremiah | andre__: Thanks! :-) | 18:10 |
| andre__ | np | 18:10 |
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| CosmoHill | Random fact: cat's have a terminal velocity of 60mph | 21:25 |
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| Stskeeps | wb wazd | 21:55 |
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| arfoll | vgrade, any chance for an updated image for the joggler? | 23:47 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | Anyone running rygel on meego-1.1 and have advice? I'm about to download it from testing and give it a shot. A coworker is integrating rygel and BRisa. | 23:52 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | Hmm, I see Rygel is hosted at gnome.org and relies on gupnp, so maybe getting it to work with MeeGo (as opposed to Maemo) won't be easy? | 23:57 |
| Stskeeps | think we use gupnp in meego too | 23:59 |
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