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| niala1 | should i place nmap in MeeGo Extras distributions ? MeeGo 1.1 Extras Netbook ? | 00:22 |
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| lcuk | niala1, yeah! | 00:24 |
| lcuk | does it work on n900 build too? | 00:24 |
| lcuk | do I have to dress up as neo to use it? | 00:24 |
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| niala1 | lcuk: no like kevin mitnick :) | 01:02 |
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| niala1 | lcuk: no python >= 2.4 ? | 01:16 |
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| CosmoHill | niala1: btw: reading drew 1 all against hull | 01:25 |
| CosmoHill | niala1: best to check in repo.meego.com | 01:26 |
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| Teth0ruX | i installed the wifi patch(http://slaine.org/_slaine/Meego_1.1_Wifi.html), but i giot an error | 01:31 |
| Teth0ruX | by : rpmbuild --rebuild --target=i586 wl-kmod-5.100.82.38-1.src.rpm i got an error /lib/modules/2.6.xxxxxx-netbook/build does not exist STOP | 01:32 |
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| CosmoHill | pastebin.com | 01:34 |
| Teth0ruX | yea.. the other netbok | 01:36 |
| Teth0ruX | i dont have any network there | 01:36 |
| Teth0ruX | but i can write the error | 01:36 |
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| Teth0ruX | I wanted to build the rpm with rpmbuild --rebuild --target=i586 wl-kmod-5.100.82.38-1.src.rpm. | 01:39 |
| Teth0ruX | I got this error: make *** /lib/modules/2.6.35.3-10.3-netbook/build No such file or directory. STOP. | 01:39 |
| Teth0ruX | Fehler: Fehler Status bem Beenden von /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.4mCVkP (%build) | 01:39 |
| Teth0ruX | Fehler beim Bauen des RMP | 01:39 |
| Teth0ruX | Benutzer/Gruppe glen does not exist. user root | 01:39 |
| Teth0ruX | you understand the german/English error? :D | 01:43 |
| CosmoHill | lets see | 01:44 |
| CosmoHill | are you using meego 1.1? | 01:44 |
| Teth0ruX | yes teh newest | 01:44 |
| Teth0ruX | on the page | 01:44 |
| CosmoHill | can you run "ls /lib/modules | 01:45 |
| CosmoHill | what's the kernel you're currently running? are you on the live image? | 01:45 |
| Teth0ruX | yes i can run /lib/modules | 01:45 |
| CosmoHill | could you give me the output? | 01:46 |
| Teth0ruX | And i Use the netbok version of megoo installed on my harddisk | 01:46 |
| Teth0ruX | yes | 01:46 |
| Teth0ruX | 2.6.35.3-10.3-netbook | 01:46 |
| Teth0ruX | and | 01:46 |
| Teth0ruX | 2.6.35.3-12.1-netbook | 01:46 |
| CosmoHill | do you have /lib/modules/blah-12.1-netbook/build ? | 01:47 |
| Teth0ruX | yes | 01:48 |
| CosmoHill | cool | 01:48 |
| Teth0ruX | yea :D But the error is the same | 01:50 |
| CosmoHill | I know | 01:50 |
| Teth0ruX | ok | 01:50 |
| Teth0ruX | should i remove the build directory? | 01:50 |
| CosmoHill | noooo | 01:50 |
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| Teth0ruX | hm in teh rpm file | 01:51 |
| * CosmoHill is reading through the source | 01:51 | |
| Teth0ruX | OkAY :D Im waiting | 01:52 |
| CosmoHill | it uses %{krelease} | 01:52 |
| CosmoHill | so it should be fine | 01:52 |
| CosmoHill | can you output uname -r ? | 01:52 |
| Teth0ruX | 2.6.35.3-10.3-netbook | 01:53 |
| CosmoHill | that's why | 01:53 |
| Teth0ruX | to old? | 01:53 |
| CosmoHill | have you rebooted since installing the new kernel? | 01:53 |
| Teth0ruX | oh no | 01:53 |
| Teth0ruX | i dont | 01:53 |
| CosmoHill | there you go | 01:53 |
| Teth0ruX | :( | 01:53 |
| Teth0ruX | i will test | 01:54 |
| Teth0ruX | Are you the main coder? | 01:54 |
| CosmoHill | nope | 01:54 |
| Teth0ruX | hm | 01:56 |
| Teth0ruX | same error | 01:56 |
| Teth0ruX | and same output by uname -r | 01:57 |
| CosmoHill | after you rebooted? | 01:57 |
| Teth0ruX | yea | 01:57 |
| CosmoHill | try zypper update | 01:57 |
| CosmoHill | it's possible that it just installed the new kernel source and not the actual kernel | 01:58 |
| Teth0ruX | yea it will download some more packages | 01:58 |
| Teth0ruX | i have to change the network cble | 01:58 |
| Teth0ruX | i will be back after the update | 01:58 |
| CosmoHill | cool | 01:58 |
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| Teth0ruX | so im back.. when i try zypper update.. i even get errors...for example : applydeltarpm: fehlgeschlagen(error) | 02:08 |
| CosmoHill | in english? | 02:10 |
| Teth0ruX | Hm every update got an error..Failure | 02:11 |
| Teth0ruX | 57 packages will be updated, but every update get an error.. After downloading the file.. There appears filenamexxx (failure) | 02:12 |
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| Teth0ruX | should i reinstall meego | 02:14 |
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| Teth0ruX | i will try it tomorrow. No i go to bed :D thanks! | 02:22 |
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| CosmoHill | cyas | 02:59 |
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| _Rui_ | hello | 04:04 |
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| _Rui_ | i'm having some trouble creating MeeGo target with mad-admin create | 04:05 |
| _Rui_ | everything goes well: 9...8....... etc | 04:05 |
| _Rui_ | then "This may take some time" | 04:05 |
| _Rui_ | followed by QEMU startup failed | 04:05 |
| _Rui_ | does anyone know what could be happening? | 04:06 |
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| npm | hi rui | 04:12 |
| npm | hmmm ... did you try "-f" option | 04:14 |
| npm | _Rui_: | 04:14 |
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| npm | otherwise, try following http://wiki.meego.com/SDK/Docs/1.1/Getting_started_with_the_MeeGo_SDK_for_Linux | 04:18 |
| npm | and/or see http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-sdk/2010-November/000433.html | 04:19 |
| npm | but unfortunately, there are more reasons than just the above for getting things not working... like having an ATI/AMD graphics chipset :-( | 04:21 |
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| npm | ok off to dinner, and thanks for qtractor :-) assuming Rui==rncbc.org | 04:23 |
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| _Rui_ | npm: yes, I'm trying with -f option | 04:28 |
| _Rui_ | and no ATI here :-/ | 04:28 |
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| _Rui_ | btw, I'm not the Rui from QTractor eheh | 04:28 |
| _Rui_ | :P | 04:29 |
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| pixelgeek | Anyone awake? | 05:35 |
| pixelgeek | Anyone know if the Jan 18th build of meego makes phone calls on a N900? | 05:36 |
| pixelgeek | It looks like it pretends to, but the call elapsed time is actually the clock time, and nothing ever connects. | 05:37 |
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| Termana | morning | 07:23 |
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| slavik1 | is anyone who is in the know about N9 allowed to talk about it? | 09:20 |
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| ZiR0 | Hi All | 09:21 |
| ZiR0 | any body here? | 09:21 |
| ZiR0 | Heeeeey | 09:22 |
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| dm8tbr | slavik1: I think that are two mutually exclusive groups of people. those who know and those who talk. bottom line all you hear is guessing. | 10:28 |
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| effchen | hallo | 11:22 |
| effchen | ich habe ein kleines installationsproblem, kann ich hier auf deutsch fragen? | 11:22 |
| SwedeMike | english only, please. | 11:23 |
| effchen | ok | 11:23 |
| effchen | hi | 11:23 |
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| effchen | i have a little problem with installing the meego usb image | 11:23 |
| effchen | on a usb stich | 11:24 |
| effchen | k | 11:24 |
| effchen | i am using win7 | 11:24 |
| effchen | i downloaded the image | 11:24 |
| effchen | and the win32 diskimager | 11:25 |
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| effchen | but after writing, the stick is no longer identified by win7 | 11:26 |
| effchen | and boot with it is not working | 11:26 |
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| effchen | i set my bios to boot from usb | 11:26 |
| Stskeeps | morn thiago_home | 11:26 |
| effchen | but it is not passing vram check | 11:27 |
| effchen | what have i done wrong? | 11:27 |
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| effchen | the stick has a size of 800 mb now and i can format it back to normal size | 11:28 |
| Stskeeps | thiago_home: linaro 2010.12 doesn't seem to like qt too much / -arch armv6, http://pastie.org/ | 11:29 |
| Stskeeps | err.. | 11:29 |
| Stskeeps | http://pastie.org/1489296 | 11:29 |
| effchen | no ideas? | 11:31 |
| Stskeeps | effchen: what device are you trying to install it on? | 11:32 |
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| effchen | ah | 11:32 |
| effchen | netbook | 11:33 |
| effchen | eee1000h | 11:33 |
| effchen | but | 11:33 |
| effchen | i tried it with my win7 desktop pc too | 11:33 |
| effchen | same result | 11:33 |
| Stskeeps | did you bunzip2 the image first? | 11:34 |
| Stskeeps | / unpack it | 11:34 |
| effchen | i do not unpack the image first | 11:34 |
| Stskeeps | well, that might be a reason | 11:35 |
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| effchen | the diskimager is asking for an .img... | 11:35 |
| Stskeeps | what url did you grab image from? | 11:36 |
| Stskeeps | and what guiddid you follow? | 11:36 |
| Stskeeps | guid | 11:36 |
| Stskeeps | e | 11:36 |
| effchen | http://meego.com/downloads | 11:36 |
| Stskeeps | and netbook ones? | 11:37 |
| effchen | yes with chrome | 11:37 |
| Stskeeps | and then http://meego.com/devices/netbook/installing-meego-netbook/windows-instructions ? | 11:37 |
| tcs-meego | i am trying to get nvidiafb to work in meego.. the kernel built fine, and modprobe works.. what do i need to do in xorg.conf to get it to use it | 11:38 |
| effchen | yes, i will do it now once again | 11:38 |
| Stskeeps | tcs-meego: get xinerama-enabled xorg | 11:39 |
| tcs-meego | Stskeeps: thanks | 11:39 |
| effchen | the instruction is very clear and easy, i guess i have not done anything wrong | 11:44 |
| effchen | should i see files on the stick after writing the image? | 11:45 |
| Stskeeps | effchen: no | 11:49 |
| Stskeeps | afaik | 11:49 |
| effchen | ok | 11:49 |
| effchen | good -) | 11:49 |
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| effchen | ok, writing again | 11:59 |
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| effchen | ok i will try it now | 12:05 |
| effchen | thx so far | 12:05 |
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| thiago_home | Stskeeps: there's no armv7 option | 12:12 |
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| thiago_home | Stskeeps: and those errors sound like compiler bugs | 12:15 |
| Stskeeps | k | 12:15 |
| thiago_home | at least the error (not the warning) | 12:15 |
| Stskeeps | that's possible, of course | 12:15 |
| Stskeeps | just noting that i got a boatload of qt errors when trying to build with 2010.12 :) | 12:15 |
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| thiago_home | check linaro bugzilla (launchpad) | 12:19 |
| thiago_home | they probably have it logged there already | 12:19 |
| Stskeeps | k | 12:20 |
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| effchen | great, it worked, thank you very much | 12:37 |
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| effchen | and it is running smooth :-) | 12:37 |
| Stskeeps | good | 12:38 |
| effchen | great :-) | 12:38 |
| effchen | i will install on hd now and hope internet is working then ^^ | 12:39 |
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| effchen|2 | ok great meego is running on my eee1000h | 14:55 |
| effchen|2 | but i do not have wlan connection... | 14:55 |
| effchen|2 | how to? | 14:55 |
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| lcuk | effchen|2, hrm it should just work (TM) | 14:58 |
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| effchen|2 | no wlan is detected | 14:59 |
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| Teth0ruX | Hello | 15:01 |
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| Teth0ruX | Can i add more webaccounts to meego? like facebook? | 15:02 |
| lcuk | effchen|2, http://wiki.meego.com/Devices#Netbooks hmm | 15:02 |
| lcuk | I wonder why the 900A is listed as wifi having regression | 15:03 |
| lcuk | ie used to work, but broken now | 15:03 |
| smoku | Teth0ruX, you can. you just need to write a plugin. | 15:03 |
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| Teth0ruX | smoku Hm... I thnik someone did write a plugin yet | 15:04 |
| effchen|2 | lan is doing fine | 15:04 |
| effchen|2 | wlan not | 15:04 |
| effchen|2 | i do an update now | 15:04 |
| Teth0ruX | I had the same Problem.. Becaus of the Broacom chipcard... | 15:05 |
| lcuk | hey AstralStorm \o | 15:05 |
| smoku | Teth0ruX, someone did? show me - I would like to install it too :) | 15:06 |
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| Teth0ruX | smoku No i don't have it :D But i think im not the only person who wants to user facebook on megoo :D | 15:06 |
| AstralStorm | lcuk, hello | 15:07 |
| smoku | Teth0ruX, i was looking around, but I couldn't find facebook plugin available | 15:08 |
| AstralStorm | we need more virtual machines on cellphones ;P | 15:08 |
| lcuk | AstralStorm, how have you been recently? anything cool happening? | 15:08 |
| Teth0ruX | smoku http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=1801 :( | 15:08 |
| smoku | exactly | 15:09 |
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| Teth0ruX | hm fuck :D | 15:09 |
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| AstralStorm | lcuk, everything non-cool happening | 15:12 |
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| lcuk | AstralStorm, thats not good | 15:12 |
| AstralStorm | other than myself building rugged pc | 15:12 |
| lcuk | a rugged one? what chipset? | 15:13 |
| AstralStorm | SB 890FX | 15:13 |
| AstralStorm | and a custom power supply | 15:13 |
| AstralStorm | which I should patent | 15:13 |
| AstralStorm | see, the whole box is about the size of U2 rack | 15:14 |
| AstralStorm | and the power supply is transformerless high efficiency 500W of my own design | 15:14 |
| AstralStorm | the machine (no screen just yet) weighs 4 kg | 15:14 |
| lcuk | why do you have to make rugged rackmount? | 15:14 |
| lcuk | server room warfare? | 15:15 |
| AstralStorm | it's not rackmount | 15:15 |
| AstralStorm | that was just the size | 15:15 |
| AstralStorm | it's a portable machine in polycarbonate custom case | 15:15 |
| AstralStorm | large but light | 15:15 |
| AstralStorm | much like 19" laptop | 15:15 |
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| lcuk | without a screen though? | 15:16 |
| AstralStorm | the screen will be delivered tomorrow | 15:16 |
| AstralStorm | I'm missing the right GPU | 15:16 |
| AstralStorm | I've about 120W TDP | 15:16 |
| AstralStorm | to spare for this | 15:16 |
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| AstralStorm | maybe a bit more | 15:17 |
| lcuk | where do you need a plugin ruggedised desktop replacement? | 15:17 |
| AstralStorm | this one is experimental for myself | 15:17 |
| AstralStorm | I'm sick of compromises made in laptops | 15:17 |
| AstralStorm | I should add a small UPS to it | 15:17 |
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| lcuk | heh | 15:18 |
| lcuk | slide out drawer for keyboard and mouse! | 15:18 |
| AstralStorm | almost like that, yeah | 15:18 |
| AstralStorm | and the screen hidden behind clear polycarbonate | 15:18 |
| AstralStorm | HP ZR22w btw | 15:19 |
| AstralStorm | (IPS, full hd) | 15:19 |
| lcuk | sweet | 15:19 |
| lcuk | you could embed touch sensors i nthe polycarbonate | 15:19 |
| AstralStorm | uhm... maybe | 15:19 |
| lcuk | and play doom, but using a real gun to aim/shoot | 15:19 |
| AstralStorm | but it's for protection | 15:19 |
| AstralStorm | you know, PC is real hard to damage ;p | 15:20 |
| lcuk | i once saw a monitor that survived arrows being fired at it | 15:20 |
| AstralStorm | everything is mounted on polyurethane heavy foam for vibration dampening inside | 15:20 |
| AstralStorm | cards are connected using cables | 15:20 |
| AstralStorm | laptop disks (yes, more than one) | 15:21 |
| AstralStorm | I'm still thinking about protecting ports for transport | 15:21 |
| AstralStorm | probably need some cover | 15:21 |
| AstralStorm | keyboard and mouse are connected via cable and there are "slots" to put them in | 15:22 |
| lcuk | air support? | 15:22 |
| AstralStorm | ? | 15:22 |
| lcuk | "probably need some cover" -> helicopter gunships provide good cover | 15:22 |
| AstralStorm | not that kind of cover | 15:22 |
| AstralStorm | I mean, cover for the ports | 15:22 |
| AstralStorm | probably gas-tight | 15:23 |
| lcuk | i know, am jesting - how does all this effect heat | 15:23 |
| AstralStorm | the fun part is that the heatsinks are... outside | 15:23 |
| AstralStorm | there's a hole for the GPU one | 15:23 |
| AstralStorm | the PSU generates little heat and needs no cooling | 15:24 |
| AstralStorm | CPU and chipset have one nice heatsink too | 15:24 |
| AstralStorm | large one, with heatpipe inside | 15:24 |
| AstralStorm | there won't be heat problems :) | 15:24 |
| lcuk | cool (literally) | 15:24 |
| AstralStorm | I was considering using water blocks instead | 15:24 |
| AstralStorm | they're more shock-resistant | 15:25 |
| AstralStorm | I'll try that with the second experimental machine | 15:25 |
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| lcuk | heh | 15:25 |
| AstralStorm | the machine is supposed to stand upright like a tower | 15:26 |
| AstralStorm | is thinner though, need to attach some stand | 15:26 |
| AstralStorm | maybe I should use a wireless keyboard and mouse too | 15:27 |
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| AstralStorm | really, the real innovative part is that PSU | 15:27 |
| AstralStorm | apparently nobody ever tried a transformerless ATX PSU | 15:28 |
| Teth0ruX | where can i find the icq accounts.cfg? | 15:28 |
| AstralStorm | it is actually win efficiency-wise | 15:29 |
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| AstralStorm | there are PSUs that are more efficient at some load, but not at such a wide range | 15:29 |
| AstralStorm | this one is modular, the controller will disable unused parts | 15:30 |
| AstralStorm | it needs no PFC (just slow start) | 15:30 |
| AstralStorm | and you can program maximum load per line | 15:30 |
| lcuk | Teth0ruX, hm | 15:30 |
| AstralStorm | (within reason - the transistors are rated for 5A) | 15:30 |
| Teth0ruX | lcuk i need to change teh icq server | 15:31 |
| AstralStorm | that's up to 5A per line | 15:31 |
| AstralStorm | and there are multiple lines | 15:31 |
| AstralStorm | the main drawback of the design is that it's a bit more expensive than standard ATX | 15:32 |
| AstralStorm | (than normal flyback, not some hardcore SEPIC that rivals the efficiency) | 15:32 |
| AstralStorm | there are 8 5V lines and 4 12V lines | 15:33 |
| AstralStorm | each current-limited | 15:34 |
| AstralStorm | oh, and one 5Vsb | 15:34 |
| AstralStorm | and the PSU emits little if any EMI | 15:35 |
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| AstralStorm | works at high frequencies, but there are few inductive elements | 15:35 |
| AstralStorm | (mostly solder) | 15:35 |
| AstralStorm | also supports PFM mode for low load operation | 15:36 |
| lcuk | Teth0ruX, I did not know you could use different servers with icq | 15:36 |
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| Teth0ruX | lcuk hm i dont know.. i got some network errors when i want to connect my icq or msn accounts | 15:36 |
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| AstralStorm | input is of course protected by an RCD and automatic series protector | 15:37 |
| lcuk | Teth0ruX, did the errors only just start this morning? | 15:37 |
| lcuk | and (tech support idea) did you turn it off and back on again? | 15:37 |
| AstralStorm | who uses ICQ anyway ;p | 15:38 |
| lcuk | AstralStorm, obviously Teth0ruX does or he would not be asking | 15:38 |
| Teth0ruX | lcuk , i added the accounts and when i want to log in the accounts ther came the error | 15:38 |
| lcuk | Teth0ruX, ok, so this is first time configuring it? | 15:39 |
| Teth0ruX | yes | 15:39 |
| lcuk | which image/version are you using? | 15:39 |
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| Teth0ruX | the netbook img | 15:39 |
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| lcuk | yes Teth0ruX - which? | 15:40 |
| lcuk | latest bleeding edge or stable 1.1 etc | 15:40 |
| Teth0ruX | ähm the 1.1 | 15:40 |
| Teth0ruX | with the newest update | 15:40 |
| Teth0ruX | 2.6.35.3-12,2 -netbook | 15:41 |
| lcuk | thx | 15:41 |
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| lcuk | Teth0ruX, does bug 5779 offer a potential reason/way to move forward | 15:41 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5779 nor, Medium, ---, robert.bradford, NEW, user must enter literally username@xxxx.xxx, not just username. | 15:42 |
| lcuk | ie were you just entering your name | 15:42 |
| r4co0n | hi@all... I just downloaded moblin, couldnt get my umts stick (huawei) to work and plan to give meego a shot, as its the continuation. Any guess if I can make this work there? | 15:42 |
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| AstralStorm | the real thing about that PSU: it's 80+ at almost 0 load | 15:42 |
| AstralStorm | and 90+ at full load | 15:42 |
| lcuk | r4co0n, download usb image and try it! | 15:42 |
| AstralStorm | maybe even a tiny bit better inbetween, haven't tested | 15:43 |
| lcuk | then come back and report it, since you have the specific stick, you are in best place to test | 15:43 |
| r4co0n | im already doing that, the 'stable' release, right? | 15:43 |
| lcuk | and if it doesn't: file a bug | 15:43 |
| lcuk | yea | 15:43 |
| r4co0n | Gonna report here if it works... | 15:43 |
| AstralStorm | good ATX PSUs are like 92+ at 80% load or so, but ~30 at low load | 15:43 |
| Teth0ruX | lcuk the error appears when i click Apply... | 15:44 |
| * lcuk goes cleaning kitchen | 15:44 | |
| r4co0n | Another question: I got an N900, is it wise to upgrade it already or shall i wait? I dont plan on doing some dual-boot setup... | 15:44 |
| Teth0ruX | lcuk a short thime megoo try to connect icq but after that the error appears | 15:44 |
| lcuk | Teth0ruX, if you clean my kitchen for me I will look at the error report | 15:45 |
| r4co0n | ;) | 15:45 |
| Teth0ruX | lcuk Okay :) wher do you live :D | 15:45 |
| Teth0ruX | e | 15:46 |
| lcuk | one of the 450 people over there must know something about IM configuration on meego >>>>>> | 15:46 |
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| r4co0n | 449 | 15:46 |
| lcuk | 448 actually | 15:46 |
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| r4co0n | 447, i dont know anything | 15:47 |
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| Teth0ruX | i tried http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=2016&highlight=network+error | 16:00 |
| Teth0ruX | but the same error | 16:00 |
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| ThomasOfAustria | good morning from austria | 16:01 |
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| n900-space | gud morning | 16:02 |
| r4co0n | USB stick ready, gonna test meego on my grandmas fujitsu m2010. did i ask like that: Is it granny proof? | 16:03 |
| ThomasOfAustria | oh, my first attemt and successful | 16:03 |
| r4co0n | n900-space, have u got experience with meego on the n900? | 16:03 |
| CosmoHill | r4co0n: there isn't a test for grannies at the moment | 16:03 |
| CosmoHill | r4co0n: does that computer have SSSE3 and an intel graphics chip? | 16:04 |
| ThomasOfAustria | if you can habdle it then your gandma will also handle it... | 16:04 |
| n900-space | not yet r4co0n , i just bought a wintec class 10 card just for that purpose | 16:05 |
| r4co0n | n900-space, id appreciate you posting your experience with it somewhere, meego garage? | 16:06 |
| r4co0n | cosmohill, positive on the intel gpu | 16:06 |
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| CosmoHill | is it a GMA500? | 16:06 |
| r4co0n | check on the other thing... | 16:06 |
| r4co0n | its a fujitsu m2010 | 16:07 |
| CosmoHill | is the processor an intel atom | 16:07 |
| CosmoHill | ? | 16:07 |
| r4co0n | positive | 16:07 |
| CosmoHill | then you will have SSSE3 | 16:07 |
| n900-space | well posting the experience is not a problem, i just have to install it on the usd card, but i cant do it today for sure i guess, maybe in a day or 2 | 16:07 |
| r4co0n | looking forward to your post | 16:07 |
| r4co0n | sse3 is a chip command set like mmx was aint it? | 16:08 |
| CosmoHill | SSSE3, three Ss, it's an instruction set | 16:08 |
| r4co0n | k, brb, gonna come on from my pc, gotta meego this netbook. | 16:09 |
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| linuxman410 | is this os still supported | 16:10 |
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| linuxman410 | anyone here | 16:11 |
| Teth0ruX | + | 16:11 |
| CosmoHill | linuxman410: yes this is still supported, it's only 11 months old | 16:12 |
| linuxman410 | will it run on a asus eeepc 701 | 16:12 |
| CosmoHill | does it have an Intel Atom and an Intel graphics chip that is not the GMA500? | 16:13 |
| linuxman410 | it have intel graphics but no atom processsor | 16:13 |
| CosmoHill | Intel Celeron? | 16:13 |
| linuxman410 | yeah | 16:13 |
| CosmoHill | pre Intel Atom eeepcs? | 16:14 |
| linuxman410 | yeah | 16:14 |
| CosmoHill | I don't think MeeGo will run on your computer | 16:14 |
| CosmoHill | you can look up your specific processor and see if it has SSSE3 support (three Ss) | 16:14 |
| linuxman410 | ok thanks i was just looking for a new os for it | 16:14 |
| CosmoHill | may I suggest windows 7? | 16:15 |
| CosmoHill | just kidding :) | 16:15 |
| linuxman410 | i don't do windows | 16:15 |
| CosmoHill | you could go on distro watch and have a look at the distros on there | 16:15 |
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| linuxman410 | do you think a lite version of fedora would work like lxde' | 16:16 |
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| r4co0n1 | on my asus eee pc i got debian lxde set up without swap, only drawback is the suspend-to-disk not working. meego suggests swap space, does it need it or may i continue without? | 16:17 |
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| CosmoHill | swap would be recommend for all linux systems | 16:18 |
| CosmoHill | in fact it would be recommended for all systems. | 16:18 |
| r4co0n1 | it was debian-eee who said its fine to go without some time ago | 16:18 |
| r4co0n1 | ima leave it like suggested :) | 16:18 |
| CosmoHill | depending upon your usage you may be fine but as soon as you run out of RAM the computer will hang | 16:19 |
| r4co0n1 | thats for sure, but how to get a netbook use its 3gb ram on watching videos, listening to music and surfing the webs. highly unlikely, id state... u could also go for emergency swap to file to be on the save side | 16:20 |
| r4co0n1 | *2gb | 16:20 |
| Teth0ruX | I try anything but i got the same netwrok error... | 16:21 |
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| r4co0n1 | @teth0rux I just joined in, are you sure your network is setup correctly? everything else works? | 16:23 |
| r4co0n1 | any kind of firewall running? | 16:23 |
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| Teth0ruX | r4co0n1 hm i installed meego 2 houres ago.. i dont install any firewall,... | 16:24 |
| r4co0n | k | 16:24 |
| Teth0ruX | msn works now, but not icq | 16:24 |
| r4co0n | icq working from winbox/etc in network? | 16:24 |
| r4co0n | u use pidgin dont u? | 16:25 |
| Teth0ruX | hm i use the programm which is installed on megoo | 16:25 |
| r4co0n | with that little pidgeon? | 16:25 |
| Teth0ruX | empathy | 16:25 |
| r4co0n | k | 16:25 |
| Teth0ruX | should i install pidgeon | 16:26 |
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| r4co0n | thats what i wanted to suggest u trying right now | 16:27 |
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| r4co0n | but i dont know how empathy is integrated in meego, just installing rn, maybe pidgin doesnt work as easy | 16:27 |
| lcuk_in_kitchen | Teth0ruX, i hear from little birdie you should ask in #telepathy channel, be specific about the versions and error messsages obtained | 16:28 |
| Teth0ruX | lcuk_in_kitchen okay :D Thanks | 16:28 |
| r4co0n | maemo was complaining on my granny having a weak password, this functionality seems to have been dropped from meego, where to file this wishlist bug? | 16:33 |
| r4co0n | Stick has been detected out-of-the-box, thumb up for meego! | 16:34 |
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| CosmoHill | lcuk_in_kitchen: is this little birdy about to be put in the oven? | 16:40 |
| lcuk_in_kitchen | CosmoHill, I hope not, he is a respected member of collabora. | 16:40 |
| CosmoHill | are there non-repected members? | 16:41 |
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| Stskeeps | andre__: ping | 16:47 |
| andre__ | Stskeeps, pong | 16:48 |
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| r4co0n | aemo was complaining on my granny having a weak password, this functionality seems to have been dropped from meego, where to file this wishlist bug? | 16:49 |
| r4co0n | *m | 16:50 |
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| lcuk | araujo, ping, did you by chance get to see if puzzle-master builds on meego n900? | 17:13 |
| * lcuk playing it on meego on ideapad right now you see :P | 17:14 | |
| CosmoHill | now I see why I don't update clamav much, it takes forever to compile | 17:15 |
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| Teth0ruX | lcuk no ideas there | 17:20 |
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| lcuk | Teth0ruX, bah humbug | 17:21 |
| lcuk | is there a debug mode that it can be run in perhaps? | 17:21 |
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| r4co0n | How to easily reboot a meego os? I switch to tty1 ctrl+alt | 17:22 |
| r4co0n | +f1 and hit ctrl+alt+del? | 17:23 |
| r4co0n | thats not how its supposed to work is it? | 17:23 |
| jeremiah | r4co0n: You can issue the command: sudo shutdown -r now | 17:23 |
| r4co0n | yeah | 17:23 |
| Stskeeps | afternoon jeremiah | 17:23 |
| r4co0n | thats not easy sry | 17:23 |
| r4co0n | :) | 17:23 |
| jeremiah | Hey Stskeeps! | 17:23 |
| r4co0n | i wanna click sth | 17:23 |
| Teth0ruX | lcuk yea but there isnt anything wrong | 17:23 |
| Stskeeps | jeremiah: you'd be at FOSDEM too? | 17:23 |
| jeremiah | Stskeeps: Yeah, hoping to talk a little about MeeGo IVI, but we'll see | 17:24 |
| jeremiah | Stskeeps: Are you speaking? | 17:24 |
| r4co0n | so theres no shutdown menu implemented as of yet? | 17:24 |
| Stskeeps | jeremiah: in embedded devroom about meego hardware adaptations | 17:24 |
| Stskeeps | jeremiah: no idea what day yet though :P | 17:24 |
| jeremiah | Awesome. | 17:24 |
| lcuk | Stskeeps, take a bullhorn and shout from rooftop! | 17:25 |
| lcuk | capture all the smokers outside for an adhoc talk :P | 17:25 |
| jeremiah | Yeah, there are only like 5,000 people there so a bullhorn might reach the biggest audience | 17:25 |
| r4co0n | i suppose u never have to reboot a linux netbook and thats why the power button shuts down and thats it... right guess? | 17:25 |
| r4co0n | though that is unfortunate when it comes to multi-boot systems | 17:26 |
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| jeremiah | r4co0n: There should be a way to shutdown and/or restart from one of the menus. | 17:33 |
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| jeremiah | I run debian here and my version of MeeGo is the IVI one so I can tell you exactly what you should click to restart. | 17:33 |
| lcuk | jeremiah, what do IVI computers do when you turn off the ignition | 17:33 |
| jeremiah | But that is only useful on IVI, I assume you're running the netbook version of MeeGo | 17:33 |
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| lcuk | do they hibernate/sleep? | 17:33 |
| r4co0n | there is debian meego? | 17:33 |
| r4co0n | i run debian everywhere else, gotta go for it... | 17:34 |
| jeremiah | r4co0n: There are MeeGo libraries in Debian. | 17:34 |
| jeremiah | But you'll have to do some work to get a MeeGo-like desktop to pop up on a vanilla Debian install | 17:34 |
| jeremiah | lcuk: I'm not exactly sure. Power management is a hot topic in automotive, as you might imagine. | 17:35 |
| r4co0n | i still use standard kernels, is it working with them as well? | 17:35 |
| jeremiah | The automotive environment is special because you have this huge spike in power when you turn on the ignition | 17:35 |
| lcuk | jeremiah, yeah so pushing and making sure meego core power management/suspect/hibernate working would be a really good thing | 17:35 |
| jeremiah | r4co0n: Yeah, MeeGo takes the upstream kernel. | 17:35 |
| lcuk | suspend | 17:35 |
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| lcuk | jeremiah, do IVI devices have wifi? | 17:36 |
| lcuk | can you setup an adhoc network with your other devices in the car? | 17:36 |
| jeremiah | Bluetooth is the major connectivity protocol for obvious reasons. | 17:36 |
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| jeremiah | But wifi is possible, based on hardware used of course. | 17:36 |
| r4co0n | jeremiah, so i get all the debian benefits (security,...) while having a full functional meego? sorry for not asking precisely from the beginning... | 17:36 |
| lcuk | well I was thinking wifi because sending video streams to users in the back seats etc | 17:37 |
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| jeremiah | r4co0n: Yeah, but it will take a little hackery to make things the way you want it. You can join the MeeGo package porting team, there are people already doing the porting work. | 17:37 |
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| jeremiah | lcuk: That is probably going to go over an internal network, like MOST. | 17:38 |
| jeremiah | There is also something called CAN (Car Area Network) which is already in the Linux kernel | 17:38 |
| lcuk | but my phone supports wifi and not MOST | 17:38 |
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| jeremiah | But I don't know that it is fast enough. | 17:38 |
| lcuk | and my laptop/slate supports wifi | 17:38 |
| jeremiah | Yeah, but that will likely be supported through some sort of hardware connection and not wifi. | 17:39 |
| jeremiah | Just because wifi opens some security concerns. | 17:39 |
| jeremiah | But I suspect they'll have wifi in the end | 17:39 |
| lcuk | yeah | 17:40 |
| lcuk | i was speaking with the lead developer of connman yesterday (i think he is anyway) | 17:40 |
| jeremiah | Still, there is a lot of focus on the protocols that have already been developed becuase of the need to shield the data on the network from interference | 17:40 |
| lcuk | and he dislikes wifi security (for ad-hoc at least) | 17:40 |
| lcuk | http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12686#c3 | 17:40 |
| lcuk | we had a great chat about missing ad-hoc support in meego base connman component | 17:40 |
| lcuk | :) | 17:40 |
| lcuk | he actually said it should be trivial to implement | 17:41 |
| berndhs | lcuk: can you tell this guy to get a move on it with the IPv6 please :) | 17:41 |
| jeremiah | connman is definitely a focus in IVI development. | 17:41 |
| lcuk | berndhs, join #connman, see the mailing list archives and discussions etc | 17:41 |
| jeremiah | BMW has spent some time on it and contributed. | 17:41 |
| lcuk | there were a boatload of intel patches given to connman yesterday | 17:41 |
| lcuk | (1 boatload == 3 hogsheads) | 17:43 |
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| effchen|2 | wlan still not working :-( | 17:44 |
| lcuk | effchen|2, did you see the notes about other devices needing to rebuild the driver? | 17:44 |
| effchen|2 | no | 17:44 |
| lcuk | i am not sure, but perhaps same instructions are needed until real reason why | 17:44 |
| lcuk | I posted a link to the devices thing earlier | 17:44 |
| lcuk | i noticed some wifi cards needed rebuilding on different devices | 17:44 |
| lcuk | http://wiki.meego.com/Devices#Netbooks | 17:45 |
| effchen|2 | but eee1000h is confirmed | 17:46 |
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| effchen|2 | but on mine its not detected | 17:47 |
| lcuk | effchen|2, i do not know more since I don't have one myself, i wonder if someone else does | 17:48 |
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| * CosmoHill tinkers with clamav.spec | 17:57 | |
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| Teth0ruX | hm how can i reinstall teh mesaanger? | 17:58 |
| jeremiah | Teth0ruX: You can use zypper to remove it, then reinstall it | 18:03 |
| r4co0n | added Fujitsu M2010 to meego wiki device support list... | 18:03 |
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| effchen | ok, problem solved | 18:07 |
| effchen | i had to deactivate lan in bios! | 18:08 |
| effchen | now wlan is working :-) | 18:08 |
| effchen | thx, i will enjoy meego now | 18:08 |
| lcuk | effchen, awesome, could you perhaps add that note onto the devices page | 18:09 |
| lcuk | its a little nugget that might hit others | 18:09 |
| r4co0n | Why did meego decide to go for chromium as standard web browser? because its faster than firefox? I dont like the google logo everywhere, sys seems branded right now... | 18:09 |
| r4co0n | talking about the chrome pokeball | 18:09 |
| r4co0n | regard it unnecessary clutter on a small screen | 18:11 |
| r4co0n | starting chrome its there 5 times and its even on the myzone screen | 18:12 |
| r4co0n | *chromium | 18:12 |
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| r4co0n | It seems strange to me as i regard Meego a rival of upcoming GoogleOS/ChromeOS | 18:13 |
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| Teth0ruX | same icq problem | 18:30 |
| Teth0ruX | can i replace the standart messanger with pidgin? | 18:32 |
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| Teth0ruX | no ideas? | 18:39 |
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| Joscxha | Hey people | 18:49 |
| CosmoHill | hey human | 18:49 |
| Joscxha | :P I have a question | 18:50 |
| Joscxha | This is the Support Channel fpr | 18:50 |
| Joscxha | for Meego, right? | 18:50 |
| CosmoHill | yes | 18:51 |
| Joscxha | Nice, I want to add qutIM to the people page on the taskbar... How can i add it? | 18:51 |
| CosmoHill | I have no idea myself but I'm sure someone must | 18:53 |
| Joscxha | i hope so :) | 18:53 |
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| Joscxha | no not? | 18:58 |
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| jonnor | Joscxha: people page in the netbook ux? | 18:58 |
| Joscxha | jonnor: Yea | 18:58 |
| sjokkis | give it some time, Joscxha. it's not like there's a hundred people here just waiting anxiously for questions to roll in | 18:58 |
| Joscxha | sjokkis: :D Okay Sorry | 18:59 |
| jonnor | Joscxha: I would first identify the component, then see if there is a more specific communication channel for it. If not, find the source code. Hopefully there will be documentation in there, if not there is always the code itself | 19:00 |
| Joscxha | Hm i thing empathyis the main communication programm | 19:01 |
| Joscxha | and i hope i could change it to qutIM | 19:02 |
| jonnor | Joscxha: http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-netbook-ux/meego-panel-people | 19:02 |
| Joscxha | what is this? | 19:03 |
| jonnor | Joscxha: the source code for what you are talking about, most likely | 19:03 |
| jonnor | Joscxha: by qutIM do you mean www.qutim.org ? | 19:03 |
| Joscxha | yes | 19:04 |
| jonnor | Why do you want to use that for this? | 19:04 |
| Joscxha | Hm i dont realy like Emphathy | 19:04 |
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| jonnor | meego-panel-people seems to just be a DBUS service | 19:07 |
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| Joscxha | Hm? what does it mean? I tried to find the files for the panel, but i cant find them | 19:08 |
| jonnor | Joscxha: I gave you the link to it | 19:09 |
| Joscxha | yea.. | 19:09 |
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| Joscxha | i try to understand it :D | 19:09 |
| jonnor | Joscxha: you will need to locate the code for the panel itself | 19:11 |
| jonnor | it will likely be under http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-netbook-ux also | 19:11 |
| Joscxha | ah Okay | 19:11 |
| Teth0ruX | Does someone know how i can find a solution for my icq problem? | 19:12 |
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| Joscxha | Network error? | 19:14 |
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| Teth0ruX | yea, when i want to connect my icq account i got this error | 19:15 |
| Joscxha | yes i have the same problem. Cause of this i want to change the messanger programm | 19:15 |
| jonnor | Joscxha: please fix/file problems instead of working around them | 19:16 |
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| Joscxha | yes but i don't know how... | 19:17 |
| CosmoHill | telnet server port | 19:17 |
| CosmoHill | try that for the ICQ server and port | 19:17 |
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| Joscxha | port 25? | 19:17 |
| CosmoHill | no idea, never used ICQ | 19:17 |
| Joscxha | hm | 19:18 |
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| Joscxha | in the forum ther was something wrote.... user-ssl false | 19:18 |
| Joscxha | but this did not help | 19:18 |
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| CosmoHill | try "nc server port" | 19:20 |
| Joscxha | ? | 19:20 |
| CosmoHill | for example | 19:20 |
| CosmoHill | nc: connect to blue port 2122 (tcp) failed: Connection refused | 19:20 |
| CosmoHill | because there is no port 2122 on that server | 19:20 |
| CosmoHill | if you get similar output for ICQ it means that the problem is the connection, not the client | 19:21 |
| Joscxha | i does not matter .. i could user 2122 or 5189... same error | 19:22 |
| jonnor | Joscxha: well if there is a bug, you should see if one is filed with bugs.meego.com or upstream. If not you file it | 19:23 |
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| Joscxha | okay | 19:24 |
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| lcuk | lardman, question for #meego-bar really, but have you had http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbera_d%27Asti before? is it nice? | 19:39 |
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| CosmoHill | error: Package already exists: %package debuginfo | 19:49 |
| CosmoHill | dammit | 19:49 |
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| jonnor | For reference, the API for the panel in Meego Netbook UX is provided by meego-mutter/libmeego-panel: http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-netbook-ux/mutter-meego/trees/master/libmeego-panel | 19:57 |
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| jonnor | and for those that care, bug about this not being in the platform API docs: http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12748 | 20:12 |
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| CosmoHill | lbt: I seem to have made two "requests" on COBS | 20:15 |
| CosmoHill | you can ignore them | 20:16 |
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| lbt | CosmoHill: np | 20:22 |
| CosmoHill | I'm pretty much pressing buttons and seeing what happens | 20:22 |
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| CosmoHill | I can see some of my packages will need modifying in order to compile on Meego | 20:23 |
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| IanWizard | lcuk ? | 20:24 |
| vgrade1 | lbt, hi | 20:24 |
| vgrade1 | lbt, are there any plans to make the new arm targets avaiable to build against on COBS? | 20:25 |
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| mkaran | Hi | 20:31 |
| mkaran | I am trying to build gstreamer | 20:32 |
| mkaran | using the below command | 20:32 |
| mkaran | mkaran@mkaran-laptop:~/gstreamer$ sudo build --repository http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/1.1.80.15.20110118.5/core/repos/ia32/packages/ --arch i686 gstreamer.spec | 20:32 |
| mkaran | then I am getting below error: | 20:32 |
| mkaran | Warning: distribution not specified, assuming 'default' (see /usr/lib/build/configs). Warning: spec file parser line 16: can't expand %(...) expansion error nothing provides transfig nothing provides xfig | 20:32 |
| mkaran | pls tell me the solution | 20:33 |
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| Stskeeps | you probably need to get a prjconf from meego.gitorious.org os base -> obs-project-config | 20:33 |
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| mkaran | Hi Stskeeps, | 20:38 |
| mkaran | I have taken obs-project-config | 20:38 |
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| mkaran | Then what I have to do | 20:38 |
| mkaran | could u pls tell me | 20:38 |
| CosmoHill | s/pls/please/ | 20:38 |
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| mkaran | Hi I am trying to build gstreamer using the below command mkaran@mkaran-laptop:~/gstreamer$ sudo build --repository http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/1.1.80.15.20110118.5/core/repos/ia32/packages/ --arch i686 gstreamer.spec then I am getting below error: Warning: distribution not specified, assuming 'default' (see /usr/lib/build/configs). Warning: spec file parser line 16: can't expand %(...) expansion error nothing provides | 20:40 |
| Stskeeps | mkaran: please don't repeat your question, it's rude, we saw it already | 20:41 |
| mkaran | sorry | 20:41 |
| mkaran | pls tell me what I have to do | 20:41 |
| Stskeeps | mkaran: "/usr/lib/build/configs", "Trunk", http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-developer-tools/obs-project-config/trees/master , build --help, that is what you need to know, now solve the puzzle | 20:41 |
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| mkaran | Hi Stskeeps, I am new to this meego build system, I am not able to understand, Could you pls tell what I have to do | 20:46 |
| Stskeeps | mkaran: i believe you're able to understand, so i just gave you all the information you need to accomplish your task :) | 20:48 |
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| jeremiah | /c/c | 21:07 |
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| vitna | hi everybody | 21:14 |
| vitna | there is any italian? | 21:14 |
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| vitna | noone ? | 21:15 |
| jeremiah | I don't know if there is an Italian MeeGo IRC channel. | 21:16 |
| vitna | ok | 21:16 |
| vitna | where are u going? | 21:17 |
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| Mat_Matan | welcome moment before I was able to run the MeeGo on a cheap Chinese tablet Vordon [?] 1GHz CPU and 512 MB RAM and I have problems with stability at this moment | 21:19 |
| Mat_Matan | *welcome, moment... | 21:19 |
| Stskeeps | ssse3 or not? | 21:19 |
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| lbt | vgrade1: yes .... I was supposed to do COBS this weekend but work got in the way | 21:20 |
| Mat_Matan | what working: touchscreen, bluetooth | what not working: wifi, usb | 21:22 |
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| vitna | Mat_Matan: what was the original os of the tablet? | 21:22 |
| Mat_Matan | Android | 21:23 |
| Mat_Matan | if I can handle these problems will write a few sentences how to run the system on the tablet (write it on the Polish forum) | 21:23 |
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| RST38h | evening,jeremiah | 21:25 |
| vitna | on the tablet you have installed the meego handset or meego tablet version? | 21:25 |
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| jeremiah | Ola! | 21:25 |
| RST38h | OMG, AmigaOS is still alive | 21:26 |
| RST38h | Some guy has just updated ColEm for it | 21:26 |
| Mat_Matan | vitna: MeeGo Handset, tablet version I could not run | 21:26 |
| jeremiah | The OS that you cannot kill. | 21:26 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10910 | 21:27 |
| vitna | can you upload on youtube? | 21:27 |
| Mat_Matan | vitna: sorry but i can't, i don't have camera :/ | 21:28 |
| vitna | ok | 21:28 |
| Mat_Matan | I have a camera phone but I lost the cable from the | 21:28 |
| vitna | have you installed 1.1? | 21:29 |
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| Mat_Matan | vitna: yup | 21:29 |
| slavik1 | would it be correct to think that 1.1 is "ready" for the market? | 21:29 |
| vitna | no | 21:30 |
| vitna | is the 1.2 ready | 21:30 |
| vitna | for the market | 21:30 |
| slavik1 | also, is there any kind of package repository support? (similar to yum/apt) | 21:30 |
| slavik1 | vitna: ty | 21:30 |
| Mat_Matan | vitna: http://allegro.pl/tablet-vordon-mid-10-cali-wifi-android-super-cena-i1404826890.html & http://allegro.pl/mid-vordon-10-2-multimedia-tablet-netbook-android-i1403936553.html this tablet [crap] i have | 21:30 |
| Mat_Matan | vitna: you can use google translate [from Polish language] | 21:32 |
| vitna | yeah i did it already | 21:32 |
| vitna | it seems an ipad clone | 21:33 |
| Mat_Matan | yup | 21:33 |
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| vitna | have got anyone news on N9? :) | 21:34 |
| IanWizard | Would it be at all reasonable to try and get both the netbook, and the handset UI's on one install? I used the netbook edition, but can I easily add the handset UI? | 21:34 |
| Stskeeps | vitna: this is meego.com, not nokia's product development department :) | 21:35 |
| thiago_home | vitna: there is no N9 | 21:35 |
| vitna | i know | 21:35 |
| thiago_home | Nokia has not announced any product under that name | 21:35 |
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| vitna | but maybe there is a nokia betatester | 21:36 |
| vitna | xD | 21:36 |
| lbt | vitna: I hear MWC is the place to go for rumours... the platinum pass is a snip at €5k | 21:36 |
| thiago_home | and if there are, they are all bound by NDA not to talk about it | 21:36 |
| CosmoHill | maybe there is a non-disclosure thingy | 21:36 |
| vitna | i understood | 21:36 |
| Jaffa | lbt: You going? :-) | 21:36 |
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| lbt | Jaffa: kinda thinking about it | 21:37 |
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| CosmoHill | lbt: flee now whilst you still can | 21:37 |
| Jaffa | thiago_home: Not quite true, if you remember the meego.com October mailing list debacle. | 21:37 |
| thiago_home | what debacle? | 21:38 |
| * thiago_home spent half of the month of October travelling | 21:38 | |
| lbt | well, the archives are missing | 21:38 |
| jonnor | IanWizard: yes you can, fairly easily. There is documentation on the wiki about how to do it. | 21:38 |
| lbt | I'll put it that way ;) | 21:38 |
| CosmoHill | thiago_home: the night part? | 21:38 |
| Thrake | does anybody know a meego tablet instead of the wepad? | 21:39 |
| IanWizard | jonner, oh, ok, sorry I asked than, Thanks :) | 21:39 |
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| vitna | archos v5? | 21:39 |
| IanWizard | Thrake, it's actually the WeTab now, not the WePad. | 21:39 |
| thiago_home | Thrake: yes, but I don't know if it's been announced, so I can't talk about it | 21:39 |
| * Mat_Matan must begin to write applications for sale and and learn English properly ;P | 21:39 | |
| lbt | shame that they're visible on the rest of the internet's email archive services, just not meego.com ml-archive :) | 21:39 |
| Thrake | i only know the evolve III | 21:39 |
| Thrake | and the weetab | 21:40 |
| Thrake | thiago_home, can you say something about the release date? | 21:40 |
| Jaffa | lbt: Streisand Effect 101 | 21:40 |
| thiago_home | Thrake: no, if I knew when it was released, I would know if it's in the future or past | 21:41 |
| vitna | on tablet will run meego for hanset or meego for netbook? | 21:41 |
| thiago_home | vitna: it will run meego for tablets | 21:41 |
| vitna | on official website there isn't a dedicated version | 21:41 |
| jeremiah | DawnFoster: ping | 21:41 |
| Jaffa | thiago_home: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2010-10-28.log.html#t2010-10-28T19:15:22 | 21:41 |
| thiago_home | vitna: not yet | 21:41 |
| vitna | wetab is already on the market? | 21:42 |
| Thrake | yes, but the wetab runs only 3 hours with battery | 21:42 |
| Thrake | and the evolve II runs 6 hours with win7 and 13hours with android | 21:43 |
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| thiago_home | Jaffa: I didn't know that | 21:43 |
| Thrake | evolve III | 21:43 |
| jeremiah | I've set up #meego-ivi for anyone who is interested in discussing the In-Vehicle Infotainment version of MeeGo. | 21:43 |
| CosmoHill | lbt and lcuk, top gear starts soon | 21:43 |
| Jaffa | CosmoHill: Ah, 8pm? | 21:43 |
| * lbt facepalms | 21:43 | |
| lcuk | CosmoHill, thanks for the reminder | 21:44 |
| CosmoHill | yep, bbc2 and BBC HD | 21:44 |
| lbt | meego irc channels seem to have rabbit DNA | 21:44 |
| vitna | evolve III has W7, MeeGo and Android installed? | 21:44 |
| Jaffa | Ditto. Forgot to check. | 21:44 |
| Thrake | yes vitna | 21:44 |
| CosmoHill | sky + ftw | 21:44 |
| Thrake | you can choose | 21:44 |
| lcuk | we just started to arrange taonkas stag do, visiting Liverpool and must include a James May shirt | 21:44 |
| Jaffa | CosmoHill: BBC Redux > Sky+ ;-) | 21:44 |
| vitna | is already on the market? | 21:44 |
| lcuk | tonkas * | 21:44 |
| Thrake | second quartal 2011 | 21:44 |
| * lbt checks.... yep, mythtv is on it CosmoHill :) | 21:44 | |
| CosmoHill | awesome | 21:44 |
| vitna | thanks | 21:45 |
| CosmoHill | it works out cheaper to get a freesat PCI-E card than a box | 21:45 |
| vitna | someone know if meego has glassless 3D support? | 21:45 |
| Thrake | thiago_home: you talked something about a meego version for tablet. Is there a download version for that or is it still in develop? | 21:45 |
| thiago_home | Thrake: if you don't see it in the repo, it's not available for download | 21:46 |
| lcuk | CosmoHill, I shall watch via BBC iplayer http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/tv/bbc_two/20110123 | 21:46 |
| lcuk | unless they have it on downstairs | 21:46 |
| lbt | vitna: meego runs on the N900 and that's 3D | 21:46 |
| Thrake | okay, thx! | 21:46 |
| CosmoHill | lcuk: we can't stream HD :( | 21:47 |
| lcuk | 2d computers must be really hard to pick up | 21:47 |
| vitna | i have got N900, that is not 3D | 21:47 |
| lcuk | like infinite papercuts | 21:47 |
| thiago_home | lcuk: lol | 21:47 |
| CosmoHill | lcuk: infinaite papercuts with lemons :o | 21:47 |
| lbt | vitna: mine is... at least 20mm high | 21:47 |
| thiago_home | vitna: the N900 has a 3D engine core | 21:48 |
| lcuk | lbt, there are websites to help | 21:48 |
| vitna | it is a joke? | 21:48 |
| lbt | moi ? | 21:48 |
| thiago_home | vitna: no | 21:48 |
| thiago_home | vitna: the PowerVR GPU has 3D capabilities | 21:48 |
| vitna | i talk about 3d like Nintendo 3ds or lg g-slate | 21:48 |
| vitna | stereoscopic view | 21:48 |
| thiago_home | just like any GL | 21:48 |
| thiago_home | and I speak of GL | 21:48 |
| vitna | ooook | 21:49 |
| lbt | thiago_home: he means does meego support glassess-less stereo 3D.... which is a neat trick in software ;) | 21:49 |
| thiago_home | doing stereoscoping GL is easy | 21:50 |
| thiago_home | the problem is the display | 21:50 |
| lcuk | vitna, confusion over terms, if you had said stereoscipc we would know, but around mobile devices the more regular kind of 3d graphics are the contention | 21:50 |
| thiago_home | you have to have a 3D stereo display and run it at 120 Hz | 21:50 |
| lcuk | yes, 60hz per eye | 21:50 |
| lbt | thiago_home: w/o glasses ? | 21:50 |
| lcuk | that 60hz term comes up a lot | 21:50 |
| lbt | you blink fast! | 21:50 |
| thiago_home | lbt: yes | 21:50 |
| vitna | without glass | 21:50 |
| thiago_home | those displays exist | 21:50 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/15/man-discovers-glasses-free-3d-tech-in-the-blink-of-an-eye-video/ | 21:51 |
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| vitna | if the N3DS will cost 300 USD, this tecnology is not so expensive | 21:51 |
| lcuk | lbt, remember in cereal boxes as a kid, little cards which when you moved them they show a dinosaur roar or stuff | 21:51 |
| thiago_home | vitna: depends on the size of the display | 21:51 |
| Bostik | kinograms? | 21:52 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: ROFL | 21:52 |
| Jaffa | lbt: "lenticular" | 21:54 |
| vitna | LOL | 21:55 |
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| lcuk | lol | 21:55 |
| IanWizard | jonner, I'm sorry, I'm searching the wiki, but I'm not finding anything. Suggested search term? | 21:55 |
| lbt | yeah ... but that's not thiago_home, I've met him.... | 21:55 |
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| vgrade1 | lbt, thanks | 22:01 |
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| jonnor | IanWizard: http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Desktop/Changing_Desktops | 22:02 |
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| IanWizard | jonner, thank you a ton man, I really appreciate it. | 22:03 |
| r4co0n | Hey folks, I accomplished installing meego on a fujitsu m2010 and being overwhelmed by its simplicity i decided to give it a shot on a hp compaq mini110, this one was already listed in supported devices, the wireless being marked as having to be installed seperately. The process described here: http://slaine.org/_slaine/Meego_1.0_Wifi.html hangs on step 6 since broadcom seems to have decided to move their stuff around on the server... | 22:04 |
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| jonnor | IanWizard: you're welcome! | 22:06 |
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| r4co0n | There seems to be a kinda compatibility with fedora, what about installing a pre-compiled package from there? Assuming they run non-free, dunno fedora | 22:07 |
| jeremiah | r4co0n: You can always test a binary rpm from Fedora on MeeGo, but I doubt it'll work straight out of the box. | 22:10 |
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| lcuk | CosmoHill, top gear being awesome as usual | 22:41 |
| lcuk | landing a helicopter on car o_O | 22:41 |
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| CosmoHill | lcuk: shh, I'm not watching it | 22:46 |
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| lcuk | CosmoHill, why are you telling us to watch it then :P | 22:46 |
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| CosmoHill | cos I was gonna watch it | 22:47 |
| berndhs | they are testing the new Rolls with heli langing pad ? | 22:55 |
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| berndhs | s/ging/ding/ | 22:55 |
| infobot | berndhs meant: they are testing the new Rolls with heli landing pad ? | 22:55 |
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| ptl | lardman: any news on Meego on the galaxy Tab? Do you want any testers? | 22:56 |
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| npm | r4co0n: http://nielsmayer.com/meego/fedora13+rpmfusion+planetccrma-repos.README | 23:25 |
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| npm | i haven't had a chance to meegolem-ize a 1.1 netbook yet, and i'm not messing w/ my son's netbook till school's out | 23:26 |
| lcuk | npm, usb key, boot from it, zero install - precheck for bugs. | 23:27 |
| npm | but meegolem needs a hard disk to modify :-) | 23:27 |
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| npm | (which by the way, is just a joke name for a nonproject so don't sue :-) ) | 23:28 |
| * Stskeeps sues | 23:29 | |
| Stskeeps | ;) | 23:29 |
| * npm wonders whether "youcome" (as an app name) is a also trademark violation for a meego app. :-) | 23:31 | |
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| sjokkis | npm: why would it be? | 23:35 |
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| lcuk | an official MeeGo Travel app would be good :) | 23:37 |
| lcuk | MeeGo Racing car game.. | 23:38 |
| lcuk | who gets to decide what "official" games/apps using the trademark are allowed? | 23:40 |
| RST38h | who cares? | 23:40 |
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| jeremiah | lcuk: Linux Foundation owns the trademark. | 23:42 |
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| lcuk | ta jeremiah | 23:43 |
| CosmoHill | lcuk: didn't the TSG take a vote on SuSE MeeGo? | 23:44 |
| lcuk | idk | 23:45 |
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| Stskeeps | CosmoHill: there wasn't enough information | 23:46 |
| CosmoHill | what I'm getting at is, if they voted on that then that would make them in charge of trademark issues? | 23:47 |
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| jeremiah | CosmoHill: My understanding is that the TSG acts upon advice from LF. | 23:48 |
| Stskeeps | technically TSG is top of project, but for example delegating out compliance process was done | 23:48 |
| jeremiah | BEcuase the TSG is composed of Nokia and Intel who transferred the trademark to the LF | 23:48 |
| jeremiah | So the TSG can execute trademark decisions, but the trademark policy is "owned" by Ibrahim Haddad at the LF | 23:49 |
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