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| haroun | Again .. do we have a pvr_drv.so for "Moorsetown" .. the one I downloaded is for MFLD platform | 00:02 |
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| haroun | Does anyone know , from where I can download source code for "pvr_drv.so" driver ?? Seems pvr-bin.src.rpm has only prebuilt binaries not the source code | 00:23 |
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| alterego | haroun: it's not open, you can't | 00:28 |
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| haroun | alterego : thanks for your input | 00:44 |
| alterego | haroun: np | 00:44 |
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| haroun | Does any one know , whether Meego supports Dual Display by default ? I have connected my hardware to HDMI TV ... I am able to see only Green Solid color filled on my HDMI monitor whenever I try to run startx .. Does any one have any insight on this ? | 01:05 |
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| microlith | haroun: might want to check the meego-dev mailing list or in #meego-arm and see if anyone using the Pandaboard has it going | 01:10 |
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| microlith | I suspect you have a pandaboard (or some other A9 hardware) | 01:10 |
| haroun | microlith : I am using custom moorsetown board | 01:11 |
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| microlith | ohh | 01:11 |
| microlith | Moorestown... aava handset? | 01:11 |
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| haroun | Moorestown platform .. But not aava handset | 01:12 |
| microlith | ook | 01:12 |
| microlith | similar driver and environment I imagine, you'll stil want to check the meego-dev mailing list | 01:13 |
| lcuk_tv | haroun, green is a common colour for YUV channels being initialised to 0 | 01:13 |
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| haroun | microlith : thanks for your input .. I will check meego-dev list | 01:16 |
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| haroun | luck_tv : from the Xorg.0.log , I am able to see X-org server reads EDID of HDMI tv .. I suspect by seeing pvr_drv.so msg .. Can you pls tell me .. is that a normal msg .. or something todo with pvr_bin .. Log : | 01:20 |
| haroun | [ 128.582] (II) pvr(0): [DRI2] Setup complete [ 128.582] (II) pvr(0): [DRI2] DRI driver: pvr [ 128.866] (II) pvr(0): [PVR] Soft solid fill always [ 128.866] (II) EXA(0): Driver allocated offscreen pixmaps [ 128.867] (II) EXA(0): Driver registered support for the following operations: [ 128.867] (II) Solid [ 128.867] (II) Copy [ 128.867] (II) Composite (RENDER acceleration) [ 128.883] (==) pvr(0 | 01:20 |
| haroun | Suspecting "[PVR] Soft solid fill always " msg | 01:21 |
| CosmoHill | pastebin? | 01:22 |
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| haroun | CosmoHill: Sorry I am not familiar with IRC/pastebin.. from Next time i will use pastebin | 01:23 |
| CosmoHill | merci | 01:23 |
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| haroun | Hi All, I have posted my Xorg log "http://pastebin.com/ZAnBtQ2J" .. Can any one look at the log and tell me .. What could be wrong for enabling dual display or HDMI monitor to show the Meego UI ? | 01:29 |
| CosmoHill | I'm not to sure meego even supports dual monitors | 01:30 |
| CosmoHill | what graphics card / chip do you have? | 01:31 |
| haroun | CosmoHill: I am using moorsetown chip | 01:31 |
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| CosmoHill | that's a newish intel one right? | 01:32 |
| haroun | yes ... it'sINTEL | 01:32 |
| CosmoHill | does the MeeGo UX work on the device as a single monitor? | 01:33 |
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| haroun | yes ... Meego UX work with my LCD panel .. | 01:36 |
| CosmoHill | do you boot meego with or without the HDMI cable connected? | 01:37 |
| auke | meego supports dual displays, the question is whether the PVR hardware on your moorestown board supports it | 01:37 |
| CosmoHill | hey auke | 01:38 |
| haroun | yes .. i can boot Meego with or without HDMI cable connected | 01:38 |
| auke | my bet is that it currently doesn't, and you'll have to contact your hardware vendor to ask them *if* it is supported | 01:38 |
| CosmoHill | haroun: try booting meego without the HDMI connected and plug it in once it's booted | 01:38 |
| auke | run xrandr | 01:39 |
| auke | with both displays connected | 01:39 |
| auke | see if you can use it to enable the second display | 01:39 |
| haroun | I did .. but "xrandr -q" ... not showing up the list of connected displays | 01:41 |
| auke | yeah | 01:42 |
| auke | that means that meego has no way of finding your 2nd display | 01:42 |
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| auke | iow, the problem is in the pvr driver or related | 01:42 |
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| CosmoHill | auke: do you know if there is a way to read / check for gps data in an image? | 01:42 |
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| haroun | auke: thank you very much for your input.. let me try to debug more on PVR drivers | 01:44 |
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| lardman | CosmoHill: an image like a jpeg? | 01:47 |
| auke | CosmoHill: what gps data? | 01:47 |
| CosmoHill | one second, i think I've found something | 01:47 |
| blitz00 | CosmoHill, you mean exif metadata? | 01:47 |
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| blitz00 | try exiv2 image.jpg or identify -verbose image.jpg from imagemagick package | 01:48 |
| lardman | and hope it wasn't taken using an N900 and then rounded to one decimal place | 01:48 |
| auke | lol when someone says "image" in #meego, I assume he's talking about cd/usb disk images... | 01:48 |
| CosmoHill | just installed exiftool on my mac | 01:48 |
| auke | nod | 01:49 |
| auke | exif is your (and the NSA's) best friend | 01:49 |
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| CosmoHill | looks like the guy was smart enough to disable geotagging on his iphone | 01:51 |
| auke | lol | 01:52 |
| CosmoHill | NSA? | 01:52 |
| auke | who are you spying on? | 01:52 |
| CosmoHill | nobody | 01:52 |
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| auke | riiiiight | 01:52 |
| berndhs | likely story | 01:52 |
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| CosmoHill | find your own victim | 01:52 |
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| auke | CosmoHill: you're my victim already | 01:52 |
| CosmoHill | yay | 01:52 |
| CosmoHill | at least someone wants me | 01:52 |
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| CosmoHill | speaking of victims | 01:53 |
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| ELENITA6 | hola | 01:57 |
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| ELENITA6 | helloooooooooo | 01:57 |
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| auke | hello | 02:08 |
| auke | (and goodbye) | 02:09 |
| CosmoHill | he's gone | 02:09 |
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| CosmoHill | damn, turns out my camera (Nikon D70) doesn't support GPS | 02:22 |
| sjokkis | CosmoHill: Nikon D70 is from 2004, so that's not surprising | 02:24 |
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| CosmoHill | dad's D90 supports it with an add-on | 02:26 |
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| sjokkis | CosmoHill: the D90 is a much higher-end camera. the D70 was Nikon's first consumer level DSLR | 02:27 |
| CosmoHill | really? | 02:27 |
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| sjokkis | really | 02:28 |
| sjokkis | the D90 is somewhere in between a consumer camera and professional camera | 02:29 |
| CosmoHill | I got the D70 when dad got the D90 | 02:30 |
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| sjokkis | your dad upgraded, then | 02:31 |
| sjokkis | traded up | 02:32 |
| CosmoHill | yep | 02:32 |
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| david___ | hey | 03:00 |
| CosmoHill | hi | 03:00 |
| david___ | good morning | 03:01 |
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| david___ | mm.. | 03:01 |
| david___ | I have a armv7 board, and I would like to porting meego on it | 03:02 |
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| david___ | but its kernel 2.6.32 which support its all of device completely. | 03:03 |
| CosmoHill | I think the guys you want to speak to are asleep | 03:03 |
| david___ | is it possible that porting meego on it using kernel 2.6.32? | 03:03 |
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| CosmoHill | I wouldn't know mysql, you might want to read the wiki | 03:04 |
| sivang | CosmoHill: s/mysql/myself/ ? | 03:06 |
| CosmoHill | wow did I really say mysql? | 03:07 |
| pierce | ya, that kina caught me off guard a bit | 03:07 |
| sivang | CosmoHill: I hope you are okay | 03:07 |
| sivang | CosmoHill: I mean, for me,this was the sign I needed a new job | 03:07 |
| CosmoHill | it's 1am and I start databases next week | 03:08 |
| pierce | fraudian slip showing lack of confidence in mysql skills I would guess | 03:08 |
| sivang | pierce: mysql skills is something even its creators are lacking | 03:08 |
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| pierce | mysql creators abandoned mysql long ago :-) | 03:08 |
| sivang | CosmoHill: good luck then | 03:08 |
| pierce | *flameon* | 03:08 |
| CosmoHill | merci | 03:08 |
| sivang | pierce: hehe | 03:08 |
| CosmoHill | and it's actually MSSQL | 03:09 |
| sivang | it is actully much better | 03:09 |
| sivang | to be honest | 03:09 |
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| sivang | but hye, I'm now a nosql fanboy with web 2.0 asiprations | 03:09 |
| sivang | I work a lot with CouchDB | 03:09 |
| sivang | and replication is a breeze | 03:09 |
| pierce | ow, I just got hit with a 2007 | 03:09 |
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| sivang | pierce: mssql? | 03:10 |
| pierce | nosql :-p | 03:10 |
| pierce | couchdb | 03:10 |
| sivang | what is 2007? | 03:10 |
| sivang | bug number? | 03:10 |
| CosmoHill | sivang: I don't have to pay for it so I'm fine | 03:10 |
| sivang | CosmoHill: good | 03:10 |
| CosmoHill | just a shame I can't use my ppc mac in that less | 03:10 |
| CosmoHill | lesson* | 03:10 |
| sivang | I agree | 03:10 |
| sivang | the ppc ones were something | 03:10 |
| * sivang has a POWER consortium shirt | 03:11 | |
| CosmoHill | ooo, nice | 03:11 |
| CosmoHill | I should get a "got root" t-shirt, since I do actually have root | 03:11 |
| sivang | Ilove it very much and take care not ot wash it to much | 03:11 |
| sivang | hehe | 03:11 |
| pierce | anywho.. david___ there should be no reason that you couldn't port it to that board, not really me field, but sounds like a fun experiment to me :-) | 03:12 |
| sivang | I think frescale made the shirts, and have their logo quite small on thesleeve | 03:12 |
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| sivang | anyway dudes | 03:12 |
| sivang | after a nice discovery of how not to drop qnetworkaccessmanager into auth loop, I go to sleep. | 03:12 |
| sivang | g'night! | 03:12 |
| CosmoHill | cyas | 03:13 |
| david___ | really? (i don't know how to send a direct message to you ) | 03:13 |
| CosmoHill | david___: it's /query username, but always ask permission first | 03:14 |
| pierce | slash msg | 03:14 |
| CosmoHill | pierce: you can begin a line with // | 03:14 |
| pierce | david___: I really wouldn't know where to start, but I know meego runs on plenty of arm stuff already, so what you are doing doesn't seem like much of a stretch | 03:16 |
| david___ | ok | 03:16 |
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| pierce | if you run into specific problems, I'm sure someone that know what they are talking about will be around soon | 03:17 |
| pierce | *knows | 03:17 |
| CosmoHill | I think most of the MeeGo ARM guys are from Nokia in Europe so they're probably asleep | 03:19 |
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| arsc | Wifi in school fails. hai all... >_< | 10:22 |
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| cvandonderen-off | hi | 10:28 |
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| cvandonderen-off | I'm trying to update my image to the latest build version 1.1.80.15.* | 10:29 |
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| cvandonderen-off | but then I get the following errors with zypper: Can't provide ./repodata/80423408d0523e03c257b20a8e534b9ceb7dadc8af00d8c78807cf5b27803a39-filelists.sqlite.bz2 | 10:29 |
| cvandonderen-off | even though that file exists | 10:29 |
| cvandonderen-off | any idea? | 10:29 |
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| Termana | lcuk_tv, are you using _tv to indicate you have an IRC client on your TV or simply that your watching TV? | 11:16 |
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| lcuk_tv | Termana, I was watching tv last night | 11:26 |
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| lcuk | Termana, but based on http://liqbase.net/meego.on.packard.bell.onetwo.20110114_001.jpg which is a HDTV with freeview tuner and main control as IR remote ;) it won't be too long :P | 11:27 |
| Termana | ;D | 11:27 |
| lcuk | ( its also multitouch which was more the point of that device ;) ) | 11:27 |
| Termana | Image is still loading for me, I'm having internet troubles, which seems to be stemming from the Queensland (Australia) floods | 11:28 |
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| jmanty | I'm creating package that only contains settings files and does not require building. Any idea, how I can prevent obs to try to run autogen? | 12:30 |
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| FunkyPenguin | can anyone confirm if meego-panel-devices is using upower in 1.1.80? | 12:41 |
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| lcuk | jmanty, ensure there are no autotools related components in your package | 12:41 |
| jmanty | lcuk: I don't have any packages listed as dependencies. Basically I only have package info section and %install and %files sections | 12:43 |
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| lcuk | jmanty, pastebin your spec file (is it spec thats related?) | 12:43 |
| lcuk | or point to gitweb url for it | 12:44 |
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| jmanty | lcuk: http://pastebin.com/pbKuCpvx | 12:46 |
| lcuk | #%autogen | 12:46 |
| lcuk | is that commented out or a step? | 12:46 |
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| jmanty | lcuk: commented out. Aren't # starting lines comments? | 12:48 |
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| lcuk | jmanty, you tell me.. but you say autogen is running and autogen is listed in your spec file.. | 12:48 |
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| jmanty | lcuk: I'll remove the line to see if it makes any difference. | 12:49 |
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| lcuk | sounds like a plan | 12:51 |
| jmanty | lcuk: that did the trick. Weird, I was completly sure that it was commented out | 12:51 |
| jmanty | lcuk: thanks =) | 12:51 |
| lcuk | \o | 12:51 |
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| lcuk | lcuk$ sudo zypper in early_lunch | 13:38 |
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| Fale | hi | 13:51 |
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| lcuk | hello fale \o | 13:52 |
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| Fale | The ViGLug is planning a pretty big event in May in Settala (Milan, Italy) and we would be interested in a speackman from MeeGo. Is there someone that could? Or, where can I ask? | 13:54 |
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| lcuk | Fale, cool stuff, do you have website link for your group | 13:56 |
| Fale | lcuk: viglug.org and a website of the event is going to be made in a few days ;) | 13:57 |
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| lcuk | and there are numerous places to post information, the easier places are the mailing lists and the forum http://forum.meego.com/ | 13:57 |
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| lcuk | Fale, would your speakers be in English or Italian? | 13:58 |
| lcuk | (noting your current site is Italian) | 13:59 |
| Fale | lcuk: All the talks are in Italian, so Italian would be way better (even because Italian people barely know english :() | 13:59 |
| lcuk | haha | 14:00 |
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| lcuk | fale, post onto the ML or the forum with informatio nthen, I will try to highlight it to any Italians who come through | 14:04 |
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| Fale | lcuk: awesome, thanks :) I'm going to post in ML in a few hours :) | 14:05 |
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| lcuk | thanks Fale :| | 14:08 |
| lcuk | I just got a slap from mrs lcuk | 14:08 |
| Fale | lcuk: thanks to you :) | 14:08 |
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| * lcuk ponders POTD from #meego-* channels because I have todays already | 14:21 | |
| lcuk | QOTD | 14:21 |
| lcuk | "<vilvo> there's no such thing as spamming the channel - there's just execuses not to share information so people can share those later when same questions are asked again" | 14:22 |
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| lcuk | Fale, http://twitter.com/lcuk/status/28065735372709888 | 14:26 |
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| Fale | lcuk: thanks :) | 14:30 |
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| smoku | Stskeeps, is there some howto fork a package from meego obs? | 15:13 |
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| Stskeeps | smoku: importsrckpkg | 15:15 |
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| smoku | Stskeeps, how do I give an URL to remote OBS? | 15:17 |
| smoku | Stskeeps, ie. I want to fork a package from MeeGo closed OBS | 15:17 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: there's no link between that and community obs atm, so you have to manually importsrcpkg in osc | 15:18 |
| smoku | Stskeeps, so what exactly was adverticed at the conference as "opening the obs"? | 15:19 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: it is possible to link, just that community obs doesn't do that atm cos of low power on builders | 15:19 |
| Stskeeps | (too few workers to handle so many spawned) | 15:20 |
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| tcs-meego | hi i am trying to install source rpm for kernel using zypper source-install kernel .. its not working | 15:24 |
| tcs-meego | i am using 2.6.37-6.10 | 15:25 |
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| giGGler | hi | 15:25 |
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| giGGler | why you need extra package? | 15:26 |
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| tcs-meego | umm i am trying to get the NVIDIA ION driver to work | 15:26 |
| giGGler | hehehehe | 15:27 |
| giGGler | me too | 15:27 |
| tcs-meego | on teh ZOTAC box | 15:27 |
| tcs-meego | oh really? | 15:27 |
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| giGGler | yes | 15:27 |
| tcs-meego | have you succeded? | 15:27 |
| giGGler | i have now osx on my 1201n netbook | 15:27 |
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| giGGler | and wanted a dual boot | 15:27 |
| giGGler | not really | 15:27 |
| giGGler | its a pain, dude | 15:27 |
| tcs-meego | i downloaded the source rpm from the website and did and rpm -i but it unpacked it right there.. | 15:27 |
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| tcs-meego | so i went ahead and tried to change the build link in the /lib/modules to this non standard location .. but NVIDIA's script is complaining it cant determine the version | 15:28 |
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| tcs-meego | it really is becoming a pain | 15:28 |
| giGGler | have you upgraded to 1.1.2? | 15:29 |
| tcs-meego | i am using the snapshot build .. 1.1.80 | 15:29 |
| tcs-meego | http://download.meego.com/snapshots/1.1.80.15.20110117.6/core/repos/ia32/packages | 15:30 |
| giGGler | afaik, you might use rpm -Uvh | 15:30 |
| smoku | Stskeeps, oh. and if I would have my own OBS? any howto/doc ? | 15:30 |
| tcs-meego | ohh lemme try that | 15:30 |
| giGGler | U -> upgrade | 15:30 |
| giGGler | i though meego was a ipad replacement for netbook or so | 15:31 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: i'm not 100% sure if linkpacs work across OBS links, didnt test it recently | 15:31 |
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| giGGler | but it still needs hacks and tricks | 15:31 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: worth a try? | 15:31 |
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| smoku | Stskeeps, it was a 'just in case' question. I don't have own OBS yet :) | 15:32 |
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| tcs-meego | hmm giggler i tried .. doesnt seem to have done nething | 15:32 |
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| giGGler | sorry to hear that from you | 15:34 |
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| giGGler | have you tried -ivh? | 15:34 |
| tcs-meego | the main thing is this .. we are trying to get HDMI out to work with Meego .. so that as a hack it will work as a set top box .. with a USB tuner and HDMI out .. but the atom box i have right now .. i have a feeling Meego is not using the graphics card .. | 15:34 |
| smoku | BTW, what is the recommended method to develop meego software on IA machine? I cannot get Xephyr to work with acceleration. Qemu? | 15:35 |
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| giGGler | tcs-meego: but what worked for you? | 15:35 |
| giGGler | everything but hdmi-out? | 15:36 |
| tcs-meego | hmm for me.. the USB tuner is working | 15:36 |
| facesea | hi, buddies, I meet a problem about start emulator with Qt Creator on fedora 14. | 15:36 |
| tcs-meego | i am able to use it with Qt and mplayer ..and throw transparent menu boxes on top of the video | 15:36 |
| tcs-meego | just the HDMI out is not working as of now | 15:36 |
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| tcs-meego | i have tried this using an atom netbook .. as well as this machine.... | 15:37 |
| lcuk | sage, stskeeps: | 15:37 |
| tcs-meego | the graphics on the atom netbook was better | 15:37 |
| lcuk | bug 12678 | 15:37 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12678 enh, Undecided, ---, gavin.hindman, NEW, [FEA] BT DUN and Wifi Ad-hoc Missing from ConnMan | 15:37 |
| facesea | hi, I post a thread at http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=2503, could some body take a look? Thank you very much | 15:38 |
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| giGGler | it should log more info to the console | 15:40 |
| * lcuk hopes that FEA will help with "Connecting Devices" | 15:40 | |
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| facesea | hi, I post a thread at http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=2503, could some body take a look? Thank you very much | 15:52 |
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| lcuk | facesea, i come into irc to talk to people, could you give us a brief overview of your problem and then people might go to your link | 15:52 |
| lcuk | i have been taught not to just click on random urls you see ;) | 15:53 |
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| facesea | sorry, the problem is that The QEMU can start, but the Qt Creator cannot connect with QEMU | 15:54 |
| facesea | I install the sdk, both armv7l and ia32, but in the Qt Creator, Tools->Options->Qt4, Qt Version, only /usr/lib/madde/linux-i686/targets/meego-core-armv7l-1.1.2/bin/qmake, there is no ia32 exist. | 15:54 |
| facesea | base on Fedora 14, Dell 640M is used. | 15:55 |
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| lcuk | facesea, ok, the best channel where folks who may be able to answer is #meego-sdk (however there are some overlap, hopefully people there are also here) | 15:55 |
| lcuk | facesea, has it never worked for you, ie first time installation testing | 15:55 |
| lcuk | based on the log on the url you specified | 15:56 |
| facesea | OK, thank you :) sorry to bother here. | 15:56 |
| lcuk | it looks like something is misconfigured | 15:56 |
| lcuk | " | 15:56 |
| lcuk | package helloworldp-0.0.1-1.armv7l is intended for a armv7l architecture" | 15:56 |
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| lcuk | facesea, noting your install steps, you put on the armv7l sdk, then also the x86 one | 15:58 |
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| lcuk | I wonder if they do not coexist? | 15:58 |
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| lcuk | and hence you have qt-creator trying to push arm builds into what is an x86 sdk | 15:58 |
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| facesea | I follow the guide of http://wiki.meego.com/SDK/Docs/1.1/Creating_Hello_World, it has two Qt version, but I just one | 16:00 |
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| facesea | It seems the ia32 version is installed, but I cannot find it at the postion it should be. | 16:00 |
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| facesea | I want to install the ia32, but even I uninstall the ia32 version, but still cannot re-install it... | 16:03 |
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| lcuk | facesea, ahh you also posted onto the mailing list and the forum :) hopefully someone will chirp up soon lol | 16:05 |
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| lcuk | fale, did you also know about: http://www.meegoit.com/2011/ some collaboration may bring more success to your event | 16:08 |
| facesea | thank you, i have fix on this problem more than eight hours, thank you, sorry for my crude | 16:09 |
| Fale | lcuk: thanks :) I'll look forward to it :) | 16:09 |
| lcuk | facesea, do not worry :) | 16:10 |
| lcuk | hope it gets rectified | 16:10 |
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| facesea | thank you, bye:) | 16:14 |
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| uxman | hello | 16:41 |
| uxman | do any of you know if usb otg (on-the-go) will be supported in Meego or not? | 16:42 |
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| lcuk | uxman, on which device.. | 16:42 |
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| uxman | hi lcuk, I'm actually interested in otg on meego for netbook | 16:43 |
| lcuk | uxman, pass, I thought most netbooks have regular usb and not the OTG variant | 16:44 |
| uxman | lcuk, so do you mean it won't be supported? | 16:44 |
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| lcuk | uxman, I don't know | 16:45 |
| uxman | I didn't find any info about if it'll be supported and in what version | 16:45 |
| lcuk | which device are you expecting it to work on | 16:45 |
| Stskeeps | uxman: OTG's up to hardware adaptation to handle, ie, switch between gadget/otg | 16:45 |
| uxman | but N8 has otg support | 16:45 |
| uxman | and it would be quite weird if meego netbook doesn't have | 16:45 |
| lcuk | N8 is not a netbook though | 16:46 |
| lcuk | netbook == mini laptop yes? | 16:46 |
| Stskeeps | uxman: netbooks are usually notebooks and have real USB ports :) | 16:46 |
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| uxman | ah, sorry | 16:47 |
| uxman | I actually mean tablet :) | 16:47 |
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| Stskeeps | same - it's up to hardware adaptation to handle it :) rest of system will just see it as connected USB devices :) | 16:47 |
| lcuk | uxman, well specifically which *device* are you talking about needing usb otg? | 16:47 |
| uxman | lcuk: well, I'm just thinking about it because we're planning to write a software for meego using on a tablet device. Our software need to communicate with usb device | 16:48 |
| uxman | where the table acts as usb host | 16:48 |
| Stskeeps | uxman: should work fine, really - use standard linux interfaces for it | 16:49 |
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| uxman | thanks Stskeeps, good to know it should work | 16:50 |
| Stskeeps | uxman: out of curiousity, ARM or atom target? | 16:50 |
| uxman | it'll be ARM | 16:50 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 16:50 |
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| Stskeeps | remember to get ARMv7, otherwise meego won't run on it | 16:51 |
| uxman | yep | 16:51 |
| Stskeeps | ie, cortex-a8, tegra2, marvell | 16:51 |
| Stskeeps | bbl | 16:51 |
| uxman | ok, thanks you guys | 16:53 |
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| anidel | hi everyone... | 16:55 |
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| anidel | I am trying to restore extlinux on my netbook.. but I can't find the mbr.bin file in the extlinux directory.. | 16:55 |
| anidel | I only see mbr.bak weird | 16:55 |
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| unclewerner | i just flashed the latest 1.1.80 on n900 | 17:00 |
| unclewerner | the question is: how to get started developing for it... especially against qtm 1.1 | 17:00 |
| anidel | ah stupid me.. that's in /usr/share/syslinux | 17:01 |
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| anidel | Go to www.meego.com into the Developers section and download and install the SDK first.. | 17:02 |
| anidel | In that section you will find everything you need | 17:02 |
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| unclewerner | and i can compile for qtm 1.1? | 17:02 |
| unclewerner | ok, i'll try... | 17:03 |
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| anidel | I know 1.2 is targeted for MeeGo 1.2... not sure about 1.1 | 17:03 |
| anidel | I think it *could* work... but you gotta give it a try.. btw MeeGo 1.2 is not that far away anyway | 17:03 |
| unclewerner | but sdk is old, isn't it, meego 1.1 came with mobility 1.0.2 | 17:04 |
| unclewerner | not far away = nice to hear | 17:04 |
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| anidel | SDK is for 1.1 | 17:04 |
| rbelem | hey guys, mobility trunk have sensors working with meemo n900? | 17:05 |
| rbelem | *meego | 17:05 |
| anidel | why is that old? 1.2 is not there yet, may be you can find some pre-release developers-only image of 1.2 ... | 17:05 |
| rbelem | anidel, http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2010/12/24/qt-mobility-1-2-technology-preview/ | 17:05 |
| unclewerner | anidel: i'm trying to write some training slides for qtm 1.1 | 17:05 |
| unclewerner | and looking for a demo system | 17:06 |
| anidel | rbelem: thanks, pointer is mostly useful to unclewerner | 17:06 |
| rbelem | anidel, i used that repos to install mobility 1.2 | 17:06 |
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| anidel | cool | 17:07 |
| rbelem | but i did not manage to get sensors working :-( | 17:07 |
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| rbelem | i'm building sersorsfw trunk now to see if it works | 17:08 |
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| unclewerner | there is no zypper on n900, isn't it? | 17:08 |
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| rbelem | unclewerner, it has zypper | 17:09 |
| unclewerner | ah,, slowly i'm getting it | 17:10 |
| rbelem | unclewerner, i'm using images from here http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/ | 17:10 |
| anidel | no rush | 17:10 |
| anidel | :) | 17:10 |
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| unclewerner | rbelem: and the latest images work with the sdk? | 17:11 |
| rbelem | unclewerner, yup | 17:11 |
| unclewerner | nice, i give it another try | 17:15 |
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| smoku | could anyone check for me: rpm -qf /usr/include/GL/glx.h ? | 17:21 |
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| anidel | smoku: i don't have that file | 17:25 |
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| smoku | anidel, i found it, but thanks for interest :) | 17:27 |
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| anidel | no problem | 17:29 |
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| unclewerner | i installed meego-sdk-armv7l under ubuntu 10.04, but the package is empty | 17:56 |
| unclewerner | just a copyright and a changelog | 17:57 |
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| sanjay6976 | Hi | 18:05 |
| sanjay6976 | I am new to meego | 18:05 |
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| andre__ | hi. | 18:06 |
| sanjay6976 | and I want to create a meego build infrastructure | 18:06 |
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| lbt | sanjay6976: who for... and what scale? | 18:08 |
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| sanjay6976 | Ildt: want to build meego source code and make few changes in the ui framework | 18:09 |
| sanjay6976 | ldt: want to build meego source code and make few changes in the ui framework | 18:09 |
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| unclewerner | damn this was a meta package... | 18:11 |
| sanjay6976 | ldt:this is to know meego operating system and contribute to meego in multimedia and ui framework | 18:12 |
| sanjay6976 | ldt:can i get the access to meego OBS | 18:12 |
| sanjay6976 | lbt:want to build meego source code and make few changes in the ui framework | 18:13 |
| lbt | sanjay6976: so... you don't need to setup an obs unless you want to | 18:13 |
| lbt | you can use the community OBS as a normal dev user | 18:13 |
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| sanjay6976 | lbt: can i download the git code and directly build it?? | 18:14 |
| sanjay6976 | lbt:as i saw it requires OBS for setting up build infrastructure | 18:15 |
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| lbt | sanjay6976: yes. you can build locally using 'osc' | 18:15 |
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| lbt | you can also submit to the build service to get it built there | 18:16 |
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| sanjay6976 | lbt:thanks I will try using OSC | 18:18 |
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| lcuk | hm | 18:20 |
| lcuk | PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND | 18:20 |
| lcuk | 505 lcuk 20 0 4268 1684 724 R 99.6 0.2 2:12.77 dbus-daemon | 18:20 |
| lcuk | 522 lcuk 25 5 184m 35m 22m S 1.3 3.5 0:37.21 duihome | 18:20 |
| lcuk | crap | 18:20 |
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| Venemo | if MeeGo's rpm can support DeltaRPMs, then I now understand why you guys chose RPM over .deb | 18:25 |
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| barroca | Venemo: For my point of view, MeeGo started from Moblin which had many things from Fedora. | 18:26 |
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| Venemo | barroca: yes, however with the support for delta rpms, I think it is superior. | 18:27 |
| barroca | Venemo: But, today, with smart zypper yum, doesn't make any difference from deb or rpm... | 18:27 |
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| lcuk | one thing apt still has is speed, damn zypper on the console is slow | 18:27 |
| Venemo | lcuk: I dunno if apt has anything like the delta rpm feature | 18:28 |
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| Venemo | lcuk: if not, then downloading the deltas (especially on slow connections) will take considerably less time than the full packages, thus outweighing apt's perf gains | 18:29 |
| lcuk | Venemo, I mean the startup time, once running its sweet | 18:30 |
| barroca | Venemo: but there was many many debates on this on the list. But there might be a reason related to commercial distros vs non-commercial ones. | 18:30 |
| lcuk | but every invocation of "zypper se [something]" takes its time | 18:30 |
| Venemo | I haven't tried zypper yet | 18:30 |
| Venemo | yum is okay on my Fedora though | 18:31 |
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| erstazi | Venemo: there is debdelta but honestly, deltarpms do their jobs | 18:43 |
| Venemo | erstazi: ok :) | 18:43 |
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| mkaran | Hi lbt, | 18:45 |
| mkaran | I need one help | 18:45 |
| mkaran | I am trying create one local build setup | 18:45 |
| mkaran | I have install build tool chain from http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/tools/repos/ubuntu/10.04/ | 18:46 |
| lbt | mkaran: are you trying to build apps locally? or are you setting up an OBS for your company | 18:47 |
| mkaran | then I have download the gstreamer code from git repository | 18:48 |
| mkaran | locally | 18:48 |
| mkaran | I want to port webm support into gstreamer, that's why I trying to build gstreamer | 18:51 |
| mkaran | I have taken code from git://gitorious.org/maemo-multimedia/gstreamer.git | 18:51 |
| lbt | OK - so you don't need any OBS stuff locally | 18:51 |
| lbt | just use 'osc' | 18:51 |
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| mkaran | I have install all tool chain from http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/tools/repos/ubuntu/10.04/ | 18:52 |
| lbt | the first step is to get an account on the community OBS and then build the package there | 18:52 |
| mkaran | so I have seen osc is install | 18:53 |
| mwichmann | I thought gstreamer already had webm support? | 18:53 |
| mkaran | I have seen vorbis support is there | 18:53 |
| mkaran | I mean audio support is there | 18:53 |
| mkaran | video support is not there | 18:53 |
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| mwichmann | GStreamer Plug-ins | 18:54 |
| mwichmann | GStreamer support for WebM is expanding rapidly. Note the following plug-in packages and minimum versions: | 18:54 |
| mwichmann | Package Version Provides | 18:54 |
| mwichmann | gst-plugins-good 0.10.23 WebM container | 18:54 |
| mwichmann | gst-plugins-bad 0.10.19 VP8 video | 18:54 |
| mwichmann | gst-plugins-base Any current Vorbis audio | 18:54 |
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| lbt | pastebin .... | 18:54 |
| mwichmann | yeah, yeah, sorry | 18:54 |
| lbt | :P | 18:54 |
| mkaran | So how can I get the OBS account | 18:54 |
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| lbt | now, that I can do... | 18:55 |
| lbt | what's your meego account name? | 18:55 |
| mkaran | can u please give one account for me | 18:55 |
| mkaran | mkaran | 18:55 |
| lbt | done | 18:55 |
| lbt | no closed source and no trying to rebuild all of meego :) | 18:55 |
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| mkaran | can u please send build guide bcoz I will do first time | 18:56 |
| mkaran | Also please tell me what is the password for OBS | 18:57 |
| mkaran | Also pls tell me I have OSc setup | 18:57 |
| lbt | mkaran: there's build info on the wiki - a tutorial too | 18:57 |
| mkaran | I can build on that setup | 18:57 |
| lbt | the passwd is the meego.com passwd | 18:57 |
| mkaran | ok | 18:57 |
| mkaran | Thanks | 18:58 |
| mkaran | can u pls tell me I can use OSC | 18:58 |
| lbt | I can't tell you how - but there is a tutorial | 18:59 |
| mkaran | ok | 18:59 |
| lbt | ok ... work .... bbiab | 18:59 |
| mkaran | Can u pls tell me, webm support is there,, | 19:00 |
| mkaran | but I have seen oggdmux is there | 19:00 |
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| mkaran | that's mean it will give ogg/vorbis support | 19:01 |
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| mkaran | video support, I have not seen | 19:01 |
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| arsc | bbl - pm/highlight if you need me | 19:21 |
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| berndhs | I installed xfce4 and now when I run mutter it looks all different :( | 19:27 |
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| sivang2 | hi all | 20:00 |
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| sivang2 | where is the page at the wiki with the repositories instructions for upgrading to 1.2 on the netbook? | 20:01 |
| sivang2 | I want to upgrade there to fix the right click (e.g. new kernel) and the earphones sound issue. | 20:01 |
| lcuk | mgedmin, ping, irc search broken for meego but appears to work for other channels. | 20:01 |
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| * mgedmin looks | 20:01 | |
| sivang2 | Also, if someone can help me restore the touch behavior as now everything is with a mouse cursor and works through the mouse, I'd appreciate it. | 20:02 |
| sivang2 | (I have disabled it after having issues with the VKG) | 20:02 |
| sivang2 | (*VKB) | 20:02 |
| mgedmin | lcuk, what about now? | 20:02 |
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| lcuk | mgedmin, :D fastest bug fix in the whole world. grats dude \o | 20:03 |
| mgedmin | yeah, three-character fix in apache config | 20:04 |
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| sivang2 | jeremiah: ping | 20:05 |
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| sivang2 | hey CosmoHill | 20:08 |
| CosmoHill | hello | 20:08 |
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| CosmoHill | I've been out for about 2 hours taking pictures around the countrysid | 20:09 |
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| sivang2 | CosmoHill: ah, that's nice. Do you have the link to meego repo list handy by any chance? | 20:09 |
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| CosmoHill | repo | 20:10 |
| CosmoHill | damn enter key | 20:10 |
| CosmoHill | repo.meego.com | 20:10 |
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| CosmoHill | there isn't a list, you just look through the directories | 20:10 |
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| sivang2 | CosmoHill: I want to upgrade to 1.2 to get all the latest fixes | 20:11 |
| sivang2 | CosmoHill: re: right click and headphones audio | 20:11 |
| sivang2 | CosmoHill: this is why I want to upgrade, also, do you know of good mirrors? the default ones are dead slow for me. | 20:11 |
| CosmoHill | nope sorry | 20:11 |
| CosmoHill | I don't know if you can upgrade from 1.1 to 1.2 | 20:12 |
| sivang2 | ah :/ | 20:12 |
| CosmoHill | if you'd like I can get the latest 1.2 snapshot image for you and mirror it | 20:12 |
| sivang2 | CosmoHill: I was sure I can just set the conf to point to the latest release repo and upgrade to it | 20:13 |
| sivang2 | CosmoHill: like with debian based systems. :/ | 20:13 |
| andre__ | I think dneary asked the same question on the mailing list and didn't get an answer either... | 20:13 |
| * andre__ is also interested in the answer | 20:13 | |
| sivang2 | andre__: uh-ha | 20:13 |
| CosmoHill | Debian is much more established | 20:13 |
| sivang2 | andre__: I guess I will need to rebuild the kernel myself | 20:13 |
| sivang2 | andre__: for the right click, and well, to patch the config file for alsa myself for the headphones audio | 20:14 |
| CosmoHill | so do you want me to mirror the latest 1.2 snapshot? | 20:14 |
| CosmoHill | cos 1.2 hasn't been released yet | 20:14 |
| sivang2 | CosmoHill: so, I will have to reinstall with 1.2 and then I could set up to follow trunk? as if I was on debian sid? | 20:14 |
| CosmoHill | it might follow the trunk by default | 20:15 |
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| sivang2 | CosmoHill: okay, so please do, I'd appreciate it greatly. Where can you put it geographically? | 20:15 |
| CosmoHill | US | 20:15 |
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| CosmoHill | some people just fine my mirror faster even tho it's the same country | 20:16 |
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| sivang2 | CosmoHill: do you have an idea where do the default mirros point at? (/me is coming from Debian so stuff are not easy for me to discover) | 20:16 |
| sivang2 | CosmoHill: ok, cool then | 20:16 |
| sivang2 | CosmoHill: thank you | 20:16 |
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| * CosmoHill downloads at 8MB/s | 20:16 | |
| CosmoHill | 9.41MB/s average | 20:17 |
| sivang2 | andre__: you have any idea what needs to be done to restore touch behavior in 1.1? | 20:17 |
| sivang2 | CosmoHill: nice | 20:17 |
| CosmoHill | sivang2 et andre__: http://cross-lfs.org/~cosmo/meego/1.2/ | 20:17 |
| CosmoHill | I really should get off the floor | 20:18 |
| sivang2 | CosmoHill: you need to prepare for the course next week? | 20:19 |
| CosmoHill | not really | 20:19 |
| CosmoHill | I actually have a server with Windows Server 2008 and MySQL 2008 on it :) | 20:19 |
| CosmoHill | *MSSQL | 20:19 |
| sivang2 | ah | 20:19 |
| sivang2 | right you said something about it | 20:19 |
| CosmoHill | I think remote desktop might still be set up on it | 20:20 |
| sivang2 | when we talked about the mysql froidian slip | 20:20 |
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| CosmoHill | my problem is that I don't get access to the course stuff until it starts | 20:20 |
| CosmoHill | so I don't know what to do or prepare for | 20:20 |
| sivang2 | CosmoHill: what is it about? RDBMS theory or else ? | 20:20 |
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| CosmoHill | it was funny talking to the lecturer cos he was looking for my grade and I was like "but you don't teach me until next week" | 20:21 |
| sivang2 | heh | 20:21 |
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| CosmoHill | bit of theory and pratical, normally 1 hour lecture and 2 hour tutorial | 20:21 |
| CosmoHill | plus I think 5 hours a week private study per subject | 20:21 |
| sivang2 | okay, so fromr what I recall make yourself acqueinted with relaional algebra | 20:22 |
| CosmoHill | I did pretty well with normilisation last year | 20:22 |
| sivang2 | the lectures like to try and show the subject as complicated as they like to present theorms and basic sql operations first in relational algebra | 20:22 |
| sivang2 | and then ask you to implement it in sql | 20:22 |
| sivang2 | from my experience | 20:23 |
| sivang2 | also, to know how to design a table set | 20:23 |
| CosmoHill | I think I did my MSSQL year 1 assignment in 36 hours and a red bull | 20:23 |
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| sivang2 | e.g. what should be a one to one, one to many or many or many to many relations | 20:23 |
| sivang2 | and know when a forigen key is wrong, e.g. there are questions like "this ERD is wrong, can you fix it?" | 20:23 |
| sivang2 | etc.. | 20:23 |
| CosmoHill | crap, ERD is somewhere in my head but it's currently not within reach | 20:24 |
| sivang2 | CosmoHill: it is dead easy | 20:24 |
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| sivang2 | CosmoHill: read up in mit's ecourses or so | 20:24 |
| CosmoHill | I just look at my preivous assignments | 20:24 |
| sivang2 | CosmoHill: they have a very good piece about it there. | 20:24 |
| CosmoHill | I think at one point I was insulting people in SQL format | 20:25 |
| sivang2 | hehe | 20:25 |
| sivang2 | makes sense :) | 20:25 |
| sivang2 | CosmoHill: your mirror is AMAZING | 20:25 |
| sivang2 | CosmoHill: 300kb/s | 20:25 |
| CosmoHill | I'll tell the owner that | 20:25 |
| CosmoHill | ah, sounds like your download is being capped like mine | 20:25 |
| sivang2 | CosmoHill: I want a vds there , how much does it cost? | 20:25 |
| CosmoHill | I can download form one server at 300kb/s tops | 20:26 |
| sivang2 | CosmoHill: from where I am , 300kb/s is something only to get in workplaces | 20:26 |
| CosmoHill | no idea, this host belongs to an employee at the data centre so he get's it for free - cost of server | 20:26 |
| sivang2 | CosmoHill: if you can get me the details, I will switch over from my current VDS | 20:26 |
| CosmoHill | I get 1.2Mb/s on my phone :) | 20:26 |
| sivang2 | oh nice | 20:26 |
| CosmoHill | it's actually a decicated server | 20:26 |
| sivang2 | 786kb/s or so the highest here | 20:27 |
| sivang2 | CosmoHill: well, I don't mnind the server, just the throughput of network | 20:27 |
| CosmoHill | if you look around in my directory you should see "phpsysinfo", that will give you specs | 20:27 |
| sivang2 | CosmoHill: I have a vds in UK, but I can't reach it well with my current provider | 20:27 |
| sivang2 | CosmoHill: with orange it was quite good | 20:27 |
| CosmoHill | you're in the UK? | 20:27 |
| sivang2 | CosmoHill: no, in Israel | 20:27 |
| sivang2 | CosmoHill: but the UK server works well for plain web, badly for ssh access and longer downloads | 20:28 |
| CosmoHill | I think I remember you saying that actually | 20:28 |
| CosmoHill | could be QoS | 20:28 |
| sivang2 | CosmoHill: I just found a good package +root with intrahost | 20:28 |
| sivang2 | CosmoHill: I have some backends for mobile apps I am developing there | 20:28 |
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| sivang2 | CosmoHill: I have a VMWare console and I can reboot, reinstall, change kernels and what not | 20:29 |
| sivang2 | CosmoHill: as if it was a physical machine | 20:29 |
| sivang2 | my network is crappy, I now get 190kb/s | 20:30 |
| CosmoHill | my friend had an english VM that could do that, can't remember the host | 20:30 |
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| sivang2 | CosmoHill: some of them offer that, yes | 20:32 |
| sivang2 | CosmoHill: mine's here: www.intrahost.co.uk | 20:32 |
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| sivang2 | CosmoHill: did you attend Dublin? | 20:34 |
| CosmoHill | nope | 20:35 |
| sivang2 | CosmoHill: ah, okay, otherwise we would probably have talked. | 20:35 |
| CosmoHill | timeless tried to get me to come over to his table to help him...until he worked out I was in england | 20:35 |
| sivang2 | CosmoHill: heh, which table? | 20:35 |
| sivang2 | CosmoHill: the last day of the bogs? | 20:35 |
| sivang2 | bofs | 20:36 |
| CosmoHill | duno, I wasn't there | 20:36 |
| sivang2 | CosmoHill: we were actually chatting to #maemo people quite close to when we went up to give the talk | 20:36 |
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| * CosmoHill watches something called IRC Rally | 20:39 | |
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| sivang2 | CosmoHill: does the image you mirrored contains the prop. wifi driver? | 20:40 |
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| CosmoHill | no idea, if it's broadcom you'd probably need to follow slaine's guide | 20:41 |
| * sivang2 lspci's | 20:41 | |
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| sivang2 | CosmoHill: ahteros is like a broadcomm? | 20:43 |
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| CosmoHill | no idea | 20:43 |
| CosmoHill | if it's in 1.1 it should be in 1.2 | 20:43 |
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| sivang2 | k | 20:45 |
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| maelcum | hi. can somebody tell me if the meego core platform includes the standard c++ runtime libraries (std::string, the STL...)? | 21:14 |
| maelcum | i couldn't find a really complete looking document about such things | 21:14 |
| Stskeeps | libstdc++'s there, so i assume so | 21:14 |
| maelcum | Stskeeps: cool, thanks | 21:15 |
| sivang2 | probably also in the compliance spec, no? | 21:16 |
| sivang2 | maelcum: did you check the comp. spec? | 21:16 |
| maelcum | i haven't found the right document yet | 21:16 |
| maelcum | sivang2: i was googling for something like "meego platform specification" | 21:16 |
| Stskeeps | maelcum: 'compliance' is probably better | 21:17 |
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| maelcum | i've found an incomplete draft of the 1.1 compliance spec | 21:17 |
| sivang2 | maelcum: http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/Compliance#Specification | 21:17 |
| sivang2 | maelcum: is that were you were looking? | 21:17 |
| maelcum | sivang2: it was some pdf file, but in the meantime i found that same wiki page. | 21:18 |
| sivang2 | yes, there are a couple versions there. | 21:18 |
| sivang2 | maelcum: try the latest , e.g. 1.0.99.5 | 21:19 |
| maelcum | nice, there's a link to a current and much more complete pdf.# | 21:19 |
| maelcum | sivang2: yes, that one. | 21:19 |
| maelcum | it includes libstdc++ | 21:19 |
| sivang2 | maelcum: so I guess 'it's a yes!' :) | 21:19 |
| * sivang2 quotes Knut Yrvin | 21:19 | |
| maelcum | indeed | 21:19 |
| maelcum | wow, that OS image will be quite a bit larger than "competing mobile linux distributions". android-x86 is an 86 megabyte iso... | 21:20 |
| maelcum | not that there is anything wrong with shipping a real linux system | 21:21 |
| sivang2 | maelcum: well, android is a toy, as far as I and my colleagues tested it. | 21:21 |
| sivang2 | maelcum: also notice the kernel version... | 21:21 |
| sivang2 | maelcum: (that they carry) | 21:21 |
| sivang2 | maelcum: has its uses, but less universal as I personally hope for meego to become | 21:22 |
| maelcum | i intend to integrate any meego devices into my icecream compile cluster, for the heck of it... | 21:23 |
| maelcum | you're preaching to the choir :) | 21:23 |
| sivang2 | :) | 21:23 |
| sivang2 | hmm icecream | 21:23 |
| sivang2 | .. | 21:23 |
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| maelcum | the best distributed compiler for linux and similar systems | 21:24 |
| sivang2 | yes, I used to work with distcc alot. People now tell me that's so last century | 21:24 |
| auke | I have to admit icecream is pretty good | 21:24 |
| sivang2 | :) | 21:24 |
| auke | but I prefer coffee as dessert | 21:25 |
| sivang2 | err, a lot | 21:25 |
| sivang2 | rather than alot | 21:25 |
| sivang | this nick is better | 21:25 |
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| sivang | http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html | 21:26 |
| sivang | hmm, where is timeless when you need him ;) | 21:26 |
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| maelcum | the hyperboleandahalf girl has some geeky traits but she is more deranged than the average geek. | 21:28 |
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| ali1234 | damn, why does forum.nokia have to suck so very very badly? | 22:12 |
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| CosmoHill | cos it's a cheap whore? | 22:13 |
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| ali1234 | pretty much | 22:13 |
| CosmoHill | edit undo? | 22:13 |
| ali1234 | since no nokia site ever supports SSO i have to make a different account on every one | 22:14 |
| ali1234 | sometimes i can get ali1234, sometimes it is already taken | 22:14 |
| ali1234 | on forum nokia it was taken | 22:14 |
| ali1234 | and i can't remember what i used | 22:14 |
| ali1234 | i have the signup email but it doesn't tell you what your username is | 22:15 |
| ali1234 | and the "forgot password" mechanism asks you for your username | 22:15 |
| ali1234 | it can't work from email address | 22:15 |
| ali1234 | and there is no way to file a support request without logging in | 22:15 |
| ali1234 | so i am screwed, i have to make yet another account | 22:15 |
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| ali1234 | is there any documentation about how to package a Qt Creator project yet? | 22:34 |
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| ShadowJK | ali1234, and those nokia sites that do accept emails happily accept any email and never tells you "sorry we don't have that email address on record, maybe you used another one?" | 22:41 |
| * ShadowJK tried to recover his non-existing Ovi account for about 6 months before realizing he never made one | 22:42 | |
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| ali1234 | lol | 22:42 |
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| CosmoHill | lol | 22:42 |
| ali1234 | well, i sent a password reset email to whoever took "ali1234" on forum nokia | 22:42 |
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| CosmoHill | lol | 22:42 |
| ali1234 | apparently it wasn't me | 22:42 |
| ali1234 | i know i signed up though, i have the confirmation email | 22:43 |
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| ShadowJK | I'm sure I have a forum.nokia account, and a nokia.. whatever they call the forums.. and one for the online shop.. and one for the ovi store.. and ovi music store... | 22:43 |
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| ali1234 | nokia conversations | 22:43 |
| ali1234 | i have an account on that, my username is ali1234 there | 22:44 |
| ali1234 | i have an ovi music account too, where my login is ali1234 then a bunch of extra numbers | 22:44 |
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| ShadowJK | I thought Nokia Conversations was the blog thing | 22:44 |
| ali1234 | oh maybe it is | 22:44 |
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| * andre__ every week gets a password change email from wikipedia because somebody tries to get the name 'andre'... | 22:44 | |
| ShadowJK | lol | 22:45 |
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| ali1234 | nokia discussions is the forums | 22:45 |
| ali1234 | i only use ali1234 because ali was taken on freenode, now i use it everywhere | 22:45 |
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| ali1234 | come on, i know someone here knows how to make a spec file for a qmake project... | 23:23 |
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| auke | wiki -> spectacle | 23:23 |
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| ali1234 | oh great, so the answer is to write a YAML file and then convert it to spec? | 23:25 |
| ali1234 | ok, so how to i write a YAML file for a qmake project? | 23:25 |
| auke | Builder: qmake | 23:26 |
| auke | specifically | 23:26 |
| auke | but, it's politely suggested to use yaml/spectacle, not required | 23:26 |
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| ali1234 | where can i see a YAML file for a qmake based project that has no dependencies other than qt core and no other fancy stuff in it? | 23:29 |
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| auke | in the src.rpm of an application matching those specifications | 23:31 |
| auke | or, in OBS | 23:31 |
| Stskeeps | ali1234: http://pastie.org/1482336 | 23:31 |
| Stskeeps | pretty big example | 23:31 |
| ali1234 | bloody hell that's huge | 23:31 |
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| Stskeeps | normally they're smaller | 23:31 |
| Stskeeps | just edit it to your needs | 23:32 |
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| auke | good example though, lots of quirks | 23:32 |
| ali1234 | my app only has 1 file, an executable, produced from qmake | 23:32 |
| auke | that's gonna be easy then :) | 23:32 |
| ali1234 | this is a terrible example because of all the quirks make it impossible to follow what is happening | 23:32 |
| ali1234 | auke: i know it should be easy... so why is it so damn hard? | 23:33 |
| auke | packaging is a non-lineair task | 23:33 |
| auke | too many variables | 23:33 |
| ali1234 | in this case it is not | 23:33 |
| ali1234 | there are no variables, and no patches because i am also the developer | 23:33 |
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| auke | oh | 23:33 |
| auke | then use autospectacle :) | 23:34 |
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| ali1234 | that's not part of the spectacle package? | 23:35 |
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| Stskeeps | ali1234: http://pastie.org/1482346 better? | 23:35 |
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| ali1234 | Stskeeps: i was expecting something about 3 lines long | 23:36 |
| Stskeeps | you're picky | 23:36 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 23:36 |
| auke | http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-developer-tools/autospectacle | 23:36 |
| auke | use: perl autospectacle.pl $http_url_to_tarball | 23:36 |
| ali1234 | auke: that's more like it :) | 23:37 |
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| ali1234 | does it need spectacle installed? | 23:37 |
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| ali1234 | yes, it does | 23:43 |
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| ali1234 | ok, that failed | 23:45 |
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| ali1234 | http://pastebin.com/Fg74tSYt | 23:46 |
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| ali1234 | ok, it doesn't work properly if you have other tarballs in the same directory | 23:47 |
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| ali1234 | well now i'm not sure if it worked or not - it produced an error but it made a yaml and a spec: http://pastebin.com/upMmfB0L | 23:49 |
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| ali1234 | ok, i should be able to upload this to OBS now... let's try it | 23:54 |
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| ali1234 | damn it, now the novell login is giving me the run around | 23:58 |
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