IRC log of #meego for Wednesday, 2011-01-19

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chris81Hello @all01:18
chris81May some help me out with the 3g connection on meego?01:18
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chris81I configured a static 3g modem under /etc/ofono/modem.conf with the test-scripts I can enter a pin but i don't know how to get it 'online'01:19
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chris81Why is the meego ui not offering a 3g option anyway?01:20
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wassupnariwhich rpm contains "Xlib.h" file?03:58
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Sceptic_dudeMay i ask why meego is coming along so slowly?05:34
Sceptic_dudeWhen talking to a few fellow developers they are all dismissing meego05:35
Sceptic_dudeIs anybody in this room or have you all given up too?05:37
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Sceptic_dudeI am a developer - humor me meego people.... Excite me05:40
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horseSceptic left, but anyone have anything to say? From what I hear, the MeeGo devs are trying to finish up ironing out the bugs from the big merge, but that there are a number of device manufacturers making products using MeeGo06:09
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berndhsI have something to say: I'm going to sleep. Night everyone.06:13
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RoDuSany one here installed meego on hsg-x5a telechips 980206:13
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lardmanAnyone got their Meego-booting N900 handy?08:46
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lardmanI'd like to know what the partition layout is of the sd card image08:47
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Stskeepsp1 btrfs, p2 swap, p3 vfat with uimage08:47
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lardmanthanks Stskeeps08:48
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vgrade-nexusCambridge Network Meeting 2 Feb. http://www.facebook.com/?sk=group_19297709404891210:28
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vgrade-nexuswoops,let me fix that link10:30
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vgrade-nexusok, fixed10:37
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raghumI getting error "passwd: Libuser error at line: 206 - error locking file: Bad file descriptor.", at the end installation of 1.1.80.14.20110111.8 of Meego Trunk11:26
raghumI getting error "passwd: Libuser error at line: 206 - error locking file: Bad file descriptor.", at the end installation of l1.1.80.14.20110111.8 of Meego Trunk11:26
raghumsorry duplicate query11:27
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raghumis there any permission setting on the host that I should take care off..11:28
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lcukraghum, perhaps get the latest update and try again?  when you say installing - which image are you getting and instructions are you following?11:32
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raghumlcuk, I tried couple of other installations, for pandaboard, all of them end with the same passwd: error11:41
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lcukraghum, ok - since you are looking at the panda, the specialists who may guide you better all huddle in #meego-arm11:42
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lcukthey are certainly going through similar11:42
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raghumI run the following command "sudo ./scripts/create.sh <Trunk version> 1 pandaboard ...11:42
lcukraghum, following which instructions (url)11:43
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raghumlcuk, http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/OMAP4_Panda/private-demo11:43
* lcuk shudders at "private" part of that 11:44
lcukseems somewhat endemic in a way11:44
raghumnothing serious though.. :)11:45
Stskeepslcuk: 'unofficial'? :P11:45
raghumit borrows some gstreamer packages hosted at build.meego.com11:45
raghumthe problem is it downloads all packages correctly..11:46
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raghumand starts "Installing .." after all the rpms are downloaded ..11:46
raghumbut at the end gives an error ..11:47
raghumthat's what get me :-(11:47
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lcukraghum, I wonder if the difference/problem is changes between 20110102 and 2011011111:48
lcukbased on this note in the wiki "Note: The 1.1.80.4.20101102.1 is the version on the MeeGo trunk we froze at the time of development of this demo, but, as expected, this will pretty much disappear soon. "11:48
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lcukStskeeps, can you map the wiki user names to irc people? do you know who will actually know more specifics?11:49
Stskeepslcuk: nisanthmenon and co11:49
raghumlcuk, i tried both 1.1.80.4.20101102.1 and 1.1.80.14.20110111.8 ..11:50
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raghumbut it ends in the same error11:50
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lcukhrm raghum i would suggest filing a bug so it can be tracked and get to the right people, but IDK which category it should go in11:54
Stskeepsask on pandaboard mailing list maybe11:55
raghumThanks lcuk, Stskeeps.11:56
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lcukwhats the difference between instructions given and http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/OMAP4_Panda11:58
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lcukbah11:58
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lcukpcworld in the uk don't offer big microsd cards!13:08
lcukhttp://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/r/microsd/7345_70416_0/13:08
lcukonly 2gb ones on their website, shame13:08
Myrttiwhy would you buy from pcworld anyway13:08
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inzlcuk, http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/r/microsdhc/0_0_0/13:09
lcukMyrtti, the fact its a stones throw away and other computer shops are much further13:09
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vgrade-nexusCambridge Network Meeting 2 Feb. http://www.facebook.com/?sk=group_19297709404891213:09
lcuko_O inz :D13:09
CosmoHilllcuk: go for play.com13:09
lcukvgrade-nexus, that assumes people have facebook13:09
lcuknm, inz solved it13:09
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CosmoHillI got my dad's microSD cards from there, Sandisk ones come with a nice USB reader and are cheap :)13:10
CosmoHillIIRC It was £12 for a 4GB Class 6 with a USB reader13:10
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MyrttiWHY in FACEBOOK of all places13:10
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lcukCosmoHill, where is the class specified?13:14
lcukor is it pot luck13:14
* lcuk has a growing collection of 2gb cards which dont all fit meego on13:14
wassupnarihi, i'm trying to build 'meegotouch-home'13:15
brikshould say on the card itself13:15
lcukbrik, not mentioned on any card I have here13:15
wassupnariin this link : http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-dev/2010-August/004952.html  someone said i need those kind of libraries,13:16
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lcukahh well, tracy is grabbing: http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/lexar-microsdhc-mobile-memory-card-8gb-02667631-pdt.html13:16
wassupnariso i'm trying to build them,13:16
wassupnariis there anyone who know about "possibly undefined macro : AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE" error?13:17
Stskeepswassupnari: you're probably better off grabbing MeeGo SDK13:17
lcuktheres a great video about lexar memory production, end to end http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvf29R7nXlM13:17
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brikoh, mine has a tiny "c 6" on the front13:18
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wassupnarii'm compiling on MeeGo SDK13:18
vgrade-nexusMyrtti, I added the facebook group and twitter where else would you suggest13:19
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wassupnarii mean, MeeGo Emulator13:20
vgrade-nexuslcuk, we still have the forum post for the Cambridge meet, http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=1377&page=313:20
lcukvgrade-nexus, of course!13:22
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* lcuk ponders a big version of invar to do whole table full of devices and scrolly messages13:38
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lcukmorning ymb \o13:38
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alteregolcuk: so are you going to be attending meego cam?13:38
ymbmorning :)13:38
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lcukalterego, ou do know my actual location don't you? :P13:39
lcukyou13:39
wassupnariStskeeps : i'm compiling those libraries on MeeGo Emulator by using MADDE terminal13:40
alteregolcuk: no, :P13:40
Stskeepsok, and it doesn't support autoconf i believe13:40
alteregoYour scotland now?13:40
lcukalterego, Manchester13:40
alteregoOh, new it was some northern place :D13:41
alteregos/new/knew/13:41
infobotalterego meant: Oh, knew it was some northern place :D13:41
wassupnariit supports autotools13:41
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alteregoGuess not then, I'll make sure we take some pictures ;)13:41
alteregolcuk: Event if you're not going to be there, got any ideas for the agenda? :)13:41
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wassupnariStskeeps : in /usr/bin/autoconf is running13:42
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Stskeepsyeah, but isn't same as configure working always :)13:42
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lcukalterego, I gave you and vgrade specific things that you could both do last night.  I think it would be great to show people how your columbus gps app is coming on :)13:43
lcuksame as everyone: just go and talk about what interests you!13:43
alteregolcuk: cool, yeah, was planning on showing off my work anyway :P13:43
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wassupnariStskeeps : could you be more specific? :)13:45
* lcuk twiddles thumbs13:45
lcukNokia-N900:/home/user/MyDocs/fm_meego# dd if=/home/user/MyDocs/fm_meego/meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.1.80.15.20110117.80-mmcblk0p.raw of=/dev/mmcblk113:45
alteregoI've asked the guys at Collabora if they'll be interested in joining in.13:45
alteregolcuk: don't do that, it takes ages!13:45
wassupnariStskeeps : my autoconf version is 2.6513:45
lcukalterego, you are asking another one now :P13:45
alteregoIt also became corrupted when I tried doing it on the device :/13:46
alteregolcuk: I know :P I mean the Cambridge local guys :P13:46
lcukalterego, its good that you and vgrade are sorting out venue and agenda and I bet once its a bit more formulated people will rollup, even if its just for half hour ;)13:46
alteregoSure, there's a lot of potential in this area.13:47
alteregoUniversities etc.13:47
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alteregoAnd, of course, ARM :D13:47
wassupnariStskeeps : you mean.. the configure is not working always in the same way?13:47
alteregoI should talk to some of my contacts at ARM actually.13:47
Stskeepswassupnari: more like MADDE isn't a complete unix environment. best thing you can do is set up a OBS13:47
lcukalterego, one of my friends is coming to London early Feb too, if he does and it matches, I might suggest we head off on a trip to CBG13:47
* lcuk just waiting to hear specific dates13:48
alteregolcuk: oh, smart, well even if it's not on the day, I'd be happy to meet up with you for a few beers :D13:48
lcuknot sure how long he is staying in country tho13:48
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lcukalterego, yeah I was planning on getting train down to meet him and back same day13:48
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wassupnariStskeeps : oh, okay, I'm setting up OBS, too.13:48
lcukgetting back from CBG on same day is harsh though13:49
lcukreally early setoff13:49
alteregoYou have a better link to London?13:49
lcukyeah its a single train13:49
lcukthats partly why me and lardman were mentioning it the other day13:49
lcukits easier for a lot of guys from what I can gather13:49
lcukbut still has the overnight problem13:50
alteregoWell, I'll definitely be interested in doing a MeeGo London Network too :)13:50
wassupnariStskeeps : but i think this macro errors is not depend on the build system.. isn't it?13:50
alteregoI have a friend, who's actually joining the Cambridge event, who has access to university resources down there, which would make a good free venue.13:50
Stskeepswassupnari: it means automake isn't there13:50
CosmoHilllcuk: ah my bad, it was a SDHC, not microSD13:50
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wassupnariStskeeps : I have automake, and autoconf in my system13:51
CosmoHillalterego: ARU or Cambridge?13:51
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alteregoCosmoHill: not in Cambridge, in London :P13:51
alteregoI've got contacts in ARU though13:51
alteregoAnd Cambridge.13:51
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CosmoHillI'm a student at ARU but they'd charge the room for non-students13:51
lcukbah again13:51
lcukdd: writing '/dev/mmcblk1': No space left on device13:52
lcuk3911681+0 records in13:52
lcuk3911680+0 records out13:52
alteregoCosmoHill: what are you studying? :)13:52
CosmoHillComputing13:52
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alteregoCosmoHill: and do you want to come to the Camrbdige Network Meetup?13:52
CosmoHilllcuk: wait a moment, I got MeeGo on a 2GB SD card13:52
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wassupnariStskeeps : I can see in /usr/bin/autoconf | automake are running13:52
CosmoHillalterego: would you be offended if I said no?13:52
lcukCosmoHill, yes :)13:52
alteregoCosmoHill: no, of course not :P13:52
lcukCosmoHill, I would be!13:52
alteregoHah13:52
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lcukCosmoHill, 2gb mmc has been a difficulty for a while, the wiki instructions have changed to say 4gb13:53
lcukbut the main docs have not mirrored it yet13:53
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wassupnariStskeeps : I'm building on meego system, using ssh meego@localhost on MADDE terminal,13:55
Stskeepsok13:55
CosmoHilllcuk: http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/4-/12761325/Samsung-4GB-Micro-SDHC-Plus-Memory-Card/Product.html?searchstring=microSD&searchtype=allproducts&searchsource=0&searchfilters=s{microSD}%2b&cpage=2&urlrefer=search13:55
CosmoHilland http://www.play.com/Electronics/Electronics/4-/11404600/PNY-4GB-Optima-High-Speed-SD-HC-Card-3-Pack/Product.html?searchstring=microSD&searchtype=allproducts&searchsource=0&searchfilters=s{microSD}%2b&cpage=3&urlrefer=search13:55
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CosmoHillfirst is 4GB class 613:55
CosmoHill2nd is 4GB class 4 triple pack13:55
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CosmoHillI don't think he liked my suggestions :(13:57
alteregoI use 4G class 4 without any problems.13:57
alteregoClass 6s are way too expensive atm13:57
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alteregoI've got a 4G and an 8G class 4 actually.13:57
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CosmoHillalterego: that one I linked to was £713:59
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alteregoReally?14:00
alteregoI've got a friend that works at play.14:01
alteregoCan probably get a discount :P14:01
CosmoHillyou want a discount on a £7 product?14:01
alteregoSure, why not.14:01
alteregoWhat kind of student are you? :P14:01
* lcuk giggles14:01
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CosmoHillhehe14:02
lcukok14:02
lcukso even though the memory card dd copy failed14:02
lcukits booted :)14:02
CosmoHillif I were to buy a microSD card I'd be an idiot since I don't have anything that will use it14:02
* alterego adds some patented Nokia standard "Operation Failed" information banners to Columbus.14:02
CosmoHilllcuk: lucky you, mine was sucessful and it wouldn't boot14:02
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* lcuk now retries to get on network using ui only14:03
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lcukon maemo its one of the longest UI flows and deepest levels of dialogs14:03
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lcuksettings/internet connections/connections/edit/next/next/advanced/ip addresses/enter them ;)14:04
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lcuk!! Settings,  !! Connections14:06
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alteregoHeh14:08
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* lcuk hmms14:09
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* lcuk wonders which bit of meego is missing from the 3gb mmc card that booted14:13
lcuk2gb14:13
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* lcuk half heartedly hopes it was the network configuration dialogs 14:14
lcukbut does not expect it14:14
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mairasX-Fade, lbt, do you already have a policy for creating projects/teams in the community OBS? :-)14:37
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lmoura_:q14:41
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lcukhm file manager component14:49
lcukhm network settings14:49
lcukbut at least I can see the maemo MyDocs now14:50
lcukmkdir /media/maemostuff; mount /dev/mmcblk1p1 /media/maemostuff14:50
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unclewernerhello everybody14:51
unclewerneri'm going to boot meego on a friends n90014:52
unclewernerquestion is: what to avoid, can i trash the device with meego 1.1?14:52
lcuk\o/14:52
lcukif you install to the external MMC and flash kernel for a one shot test and you dont screw up any of the command line options, no14:53
unclewernerlcuk: is that gesture input?14:53
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lcukis what gesture input?14:53
unclewernergood question14:53
unclewernerhave no mmc, going the nfs path14:53
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lcukwhere is meego photos app from the image14:59
* lcuk looks under the rug14:59
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[Rapunzel]hey15:03
* lcuk hunts for meego handset photos on n900 15:04
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[Rapunzel]heh u also here??15:04
Sagelcuk: rpm -ql sample-media15:05
lcuk[Rapunzel], no15:05
lcukSage, got no network, so cannot install anything15:06
lcukthought it was on the default install15:06
[Rapunzel]okay here seems same ppl like in -arm15:06
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lcukand I have mounted my Maemo MyDocs with all the sample media I need15:06
Sagelcuk: well you don't need network, just do that command and you see where the photos are :)15:06
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lcukahhh roger, a mo15:06
Sageand copy those to the /home/meego/Photos or what ever the photo folder is.15:07
lcuksage, have it mounted on /home/meego/maemo right now, lemme see where photo app is15:08
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lcukSage, the photos are there, but not the app to view them15:09
lcukmeego-handset-photo15:09
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Sageah15:10
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Sageundestood your problem wrong :)15:10
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Sagelcuk: btw, the icon could be hidden if that is all you checked because of bug 721915:12
MeeGoBotBug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7219 maj, Medium, ---, miroslav.safr, NEW, N900: Application icon is not available in landscape orientation15:12
lcukbut you give me ideas :)15:12
lcukpossibly sage, hold on15:12
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lcukzypper se photos does indeed say its installed15:12
lcukand, YES!15:13
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Sage:)15:13
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lcukthanks, have cced that bug15:14
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CosmoHillsweet, Adobe Photoshop Lightroom for £65 and it works with windows AND mac15:22
fabiomssilvaHi, there is any way to use less memory on N900. It keeps on using the swap, making it so slooooow ?15:23
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lcukfabiomssilva, which OS and specifically what are you running15:23
lcukCosmoHill, thats good, except for the tiny drawback of being a channel for linux users :P15:24
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CosmoHillwine?15:24
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CosmoHillfor the recycle value of my mac, I could top up my car -.-15:50
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lcukCosmoHill, thats fine if you own a tank.15:59
CosmoHillthey offered £5516:00
lcuktake it to an antique dealer instead16:00
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CosmoHill-.-16:02
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CosmoHillI suppose I should go to uni and do something productive16:03
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lcukCosmoHill, put up a for sale sign at uni for your old mac16:03
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lcukthen get a new one16:03
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CosmoHill"do you like shiny things? buy my mac"16:05
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CosmoHill"comes with free snobbery"16:06
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lcukheh16:06
* lcuk works out where photos have gone16:07
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CosmoHillI might take my DSLR out and get a picture of the floods16:07
lcukCosmoHill, ? floods in CBG?16:08
lcukwhich end or all16:08
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CosmoHillCGB?16:09
CosmoHillCBG*16:09
CosmoHillmy home town has flood warnings and my uni is next to the river16:09
GAN900CosmoHill, the answer to that "might" is always "yes". ;)16:10
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CosmoHillhopefully I can keep my feet dry this year16:12
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lcukthat lovely 24bit meego backdrop does not look as crisp on n90016:12
CosmoHillscaled down to much?16:12
lcukgraphics colour depth16:13
lcuknot stretching16:13
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Cosmo|Unicyas .o/16:14
lcuk\o16:14
GAN900Damn low color screens16:14
lcukGAN900, its not the screen specifically16:16
GAN900lcuk, in the case of the N900 it is.16:17
lcukbut yeah, low color graphics modes (and issues with raising it)16:17
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dnearyDawnFoster, Updated Metrics/Dashboard page18:12
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dnearyDawnFoster, I'm leaning towards Pentaho. It's got a cooler name, and better dashboard support for free. I'm not sure which reason is the most important...18:13
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DawnFosterdneary: Ha!18:13
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dnearyDawnFoster, Huh? :)18:15
DawnFosterI like the cool name as a criteria :)18:15
* lbt wonders where the forum/email integration is at...18:16
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DawnFosterdneary:  but seriously, I've heard good things about Pentaho. Never used them myself.18:16
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DawnFosterlbt: As I've said for months, once we get all of the infrastructure moved to OSU, we'll re-evaluate what it will take to integrate mail / forums :)18:17
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lbtOK. Just prodding it18:18
Mat_Matanbry18:18
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dnearyDawnFoster, Every time I see Pentaho, it reminds me of Pentabarf18:20
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dnearyThe Pentaho people always put the accent on the middle syllable (penTAho), but I parse it differently18:21
lbtP*O*ntaho18:22
lbt?18:22
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dnearylbt, ? It's Pentaho18:26
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dnearyDawnFoster, So I'm going to send an RFC to meego-community. I have local Bugzilla, MediaWiki, Drupal & git instances here that I can use for testing purposes18:27
lbtyou say Pentaho, I say Ponhato....18:27
dnearyI hate the way these open core companies hide the useful docs about how to use them though :) Still need to figure out Kettle & JasperETL18:27
DawnFosterdneary: sounds good18:28
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markumanwhat package manager is using meego?19:04
Stskeepsmarkuman: RPM + zypper19:04
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markumanStskeeps: are there any other alternative repos for meego? i'll miss some mpc client, libreoffice, octave....19:05
Sagelbt: ping, is there any target for armv5el in build.pub. ?19:06
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X-FadeSage: no19:06
Sage:/19:07
SageX-Fade: there is armv5el in meego 1.0, but that is not included?19:08
X-FadeYeah, we don't import that.19:08
Sage:/19:08
StskeepsSage: we should make a v6 hardfp experiment, now i know how to do those :P19:09
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SageI really need to setup my own OBS because the build.pub. isn't working for me at all :(19:09
SageTrunk is too obsolete, can't compile against devel: project and no armv5el19:10
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SageX-Fade: ^ some improvement suggestions :)19:11
lbtSage: I'd be keen to get more people acting as maintainers for the pub OBS19:11
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Sagelbt: \o19:11
X-FadeSage: Can you file a bug about this? So we don't forget?19:11
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SageX-Fade: which one of those? :)19:12
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X-FadeSage: Whatever you need. We can always WONTFIX it ;)19:12
Sage:P19:12
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barrocahello my friends, i'm working on a fix to the bug 10379 but i'm still having trouble to debug it.19:13
Sagelbt: I'm happy to help with OBS maintaining etc.19:13
MeeGoBotBug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10379 nor, Medium, ---, srini, NEW, Manual time change is lost after shutdown19:13
X-FadeSage: We're in a meeting now, but let's discuss that later.19:13
barrocai think there might be some problem with the interaction from the clock to timed daemon.19:14
SageBug 1263819:15
MeeGoBotBug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12638 nor, Undecided, ---, maemo, NEW, No armv5el target available19:15
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markumanhm, i a window is to big for my netbook, on other linux i press the alt key and can move the window, on meego this don't work. any ideas?19:20
lcukmarkuman, which app?19:21
markumanlcuk: opera^^19:22
barrocamarkuman: type xrandr as root on a terminal.19:22
barrocait will print the supported resolution19:23
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lcukmarkuman, panning around a window is not an ideal solution, but granted it would help you work around problem, perhaps best is to raise it with opera devs as a bug (much same way as xchat has similar bug for same reason)19:24
markumanbarroca: no, resolution is not the problem. the window is to big for netbook^^19:24
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lcukor even more outlandish, on the OBS patch/fix problem locally and offer a patch to upstream19:25
markumanhm k19:25
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barrocamarkuman: i know, but with greater resolution you might get more space on the screen.. the thing is that applications should be compiled to run on the default screen size of meego.19:25
lcukmarkuman, many "desktop" apps have forgotten what its like to be resolution19:25
lcukconstrained19:25
markumanlcuk: yeah, thats true19:26
lcukbarroca, actually, apps should be able to adapt to screen space19:26
markumanbarroca: whats the default screen resolution of meego on netbooks?19:26
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lcukhandset apps adore the extra screen space of netbook19:26
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barrocalcuk: makes sense, but for markuman case, wait for opera to be recompiled into meego will take longer than increasing the resolution.19:27
barroca;-)19:27
LuizFernandoHeyy,  seee this #karen_cg19:27
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markumanwill meego updated automaticaly on next version if available?19:28
* CosmoHill grrs at spammers19:28
lcukmarkuman, it depends, where did you get opera from to install?19:28
barrocamarkuman: it depends on screen type, for instance, on intel's classmate pc is 1024x600, but i think there are another parameter for that.19:28
markumanlcuk: i just take the rpm based version from opera.com19:28
lcukbarroca, so the 1024*600 ideapad I have here can run at higher resolution?19:28
barrocamaybe, run xrandr to see resolutions available.19:29
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lcuk1024*60019:29
lcuk800*60019:29
lcuk640*48019:29
* lcuk goes back to original point19:29
barrocalcuk: i guess not...19:29
CosmoHilllcuk: basically VGA or above?19:30
lcukmarkuman, file a bug with opera19:30
lcukalso compliment them on putting out an rpm which works :)19:31
lcuk"works"19:31
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barrocai've got a netbook with 1280x76819:31
barrocaor something like this, and the menus are smaller than on the lenovo screen.19:31
lcukisn't that just a regular laptop?19:31
lcukwhat model is it?19:32
barrocano, an intel classmate pc also.19:32
barrocabut i guess they attached a strange screen on it.19:32
barrocawe received some different samples here...19:32
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lcukmeego handset on 1920*1080 will be cool19:33
jewardMy N900 is getting pretty battered and I'm wondering if it will last long enough for the successor.  Does anyone know anything about such a product?19:33
Stskeepsjeward: engadget's better for rumours, if you need fact, wait for announcements :)19:34
barrocalcuk: :)19:35
jewardI was hoping there was something more concrete than rumors.19:35
RST38hjeward: google for N919:35
jewardI've seen some of that... let me look again.19:36
lcukbarroca, http://liqbase.net/meego.on.packard.bell.onetwo.20110114_001.jpg19:36
markumanlcuk: the opera bug tracker is not open for everyone^^ but chromium is fine too19:38
jewardOh, looks like it's supposed to be released next month!19:39
jewardAwesome. :-)19:39
barrocalcuk: it acctually have 1366x76819:40
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barrocalcu: http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/9396/foto23zx.jpg with our look customization.19:42
jewardAre there any other meego handsets coming out?19:42
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markumansomeone get icq to work with empathy 2.30.2 comming with meego 1.1?19:44
barrocalcuk: see how small the icons are?19:44
lcukbarroca, cool beans19:45
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barrocaany way, i still need help debugging date and time on netbook..19:45
lcukbug 11281 you mean19:46
MeeGoBotBug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11281 nor, Medium, ---, brian.j.jones, ASSI, datetime applet can't set date or time19:46
CosmoHilllcuk: dude! I've just seen a memory card that is more than my car!19:46
* lcuk tracking that19:46
* nhg wonders if anyone received the shipments of lenovo netbooks promised by Intel at the Meego Conference in Dublin last November.19:46
lcuknhg, I have heard reports of a load of them arriving over Christmas19:47
nhglcuk: thanks...so far no word on mine and my colleagues and its been 2 months19:47
lcuknhg, eek19:48
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lcukchaseup via DawnFoster and I am sure she will know who to follow beyond that19:48
barrocano, bug 1037919:48
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MeeGoBotBug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10379 nor, Medium, ---, srini, NEW, Manual time change is lost after shutdown19:48
DawnFosternhg: Can you email Amy Leeland again with your name / address19:49
DawnFosternhg: a couple of people's shipments bounced back and we didn't have alternate contact info19:49
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DawnFosternhg: cc me on the email to amy dawn.m.foster@intel.com19:50
nhgDawnFoster: Sam Houston and Amy Leeland haven't been able to give us shipping tracking numbers yet...which means they havent been shipped yet (not bounced back at least in our case)19:51
DawnFosternhg: I really can't help you over IRC19:51
DawnFosternhg: I need an email with a real name and physical address to Amy cc me.19:52
lcukbarroca, since you already commented on the bug last week, best idea is to get to one of the bug triage meetings (different days) http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo-Meeting_IRC_Schedule19:52
nhgDawnFoster: sure..will email you separately19:52
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lcuktomorrows core triage might be an idea to bring it up after19:52
lcuk(problem is coming from panel, but it may be lower levels that are not accounting for it)19:53
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barrocalcuk: i think that timed is doing some wrong setups on time.19:54
lcukandre__, do you know best way to get bugzilla to spit out a list of bugs commented/voted/messed with during a week?19:54
lcukbarroca, then add that to bug and see if you can find a way to test it?19:54
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andre__lcuk: split "commented/voted/messed" into one word and I will see ;-)19:55
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barrocalcuk: yes, i've just noticed that might be an timed issue... i'm trying to see if it's related first.19:56
lcukandre__, activity.19:56
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lcukpeople commenting, adding extra votes, getting involved etc19:56
fenrirhello... is 4gb microsd good enought to try meego 1.1 in dualboot on n900 ?19:56
Stskeepsfenrir: yes19:56
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Stskeepssize wise, speed wise, class 6 is always better19:57
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andre__lcuk: query.cgi, "Only bugs changed between" section, "-168h" in the first empty field? :)19:58
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fenrirhmm what do i need to install meego.... dualboot software of somekind ?19:59
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lcukandre__, o_O you mean all those were changed in last 24h!   http://bugs.meego.com/buglist.cgi?chfieldto=Now&query_format=advanced&chfieldfrom=-24h20:02
Stskeeps390? not bad20:02
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andre__lcuk, correct20:03
lcukyeah Stskeeps - thats quite a lot indeed for a single day!20:03
lcukthanks andre__20:03
andre__well, also stuff like changing CC and so on20:03
lcuksure20:03
andre__np20:03
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barrocalcuk: thanks20:10
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markumani guess if i want the meego desktop on other linux distribution, i need everything from here, am i right? http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-netbook-ux20:47
Stskeepsyeah, and a non-meego sounding name ;)20:47
kyb3R:)20:47
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markumanStskeeps: why an non-meego sounding name? and how does all the meego desktop stuff will startet? i can't find any .xinitrc file on meego 1.1? and does meego-netbook-ux bring its own login manager with?20:49
Stskeepsmarkuman: well, there's a meego trademark where there is a compliance program attached, so in case you wanted to make product or the likes, meego netbook ux on another distribution wouldn't/couldn't be called 'meego' :P20:50
Stskeepsmarkuman: and meego uses uxlaunch20:50
kyb3Rmeego is a trademark, which you don't want to mess with20:50
* Stskeeps still recalls getting heat for calling something "Debian for Nokia Internet Tablets", heh20:51
kyb3Rwe had our share with the trademark issues, so my advice is to avoid the word.20:51
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markumanStskeeps: hm, i don't want to make my own distribution, i just want to made a pkgbuild for archlinux.20:52
Stskeepskyb3R: very good job with the meego-fi community btw, i'm really impressed how well it seems to run :)20:52
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kyb3RStskeeps: thanks :)20:53
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Stskeepsmarkuman: alright20:54
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markumanis the kernel config from meego 1.1 somewhere available?21:02
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lcukmgedmin, irc search broke, giving error!21:38
CosmoHilllcuk: IRC in general broke21:38
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lcukCosmoHill, thats as maybe, but mgedmin's server is perhaps one of the most stable on the net!21:39
* alterego yawnsors21:39
alteregoJust prepared a nice release speach for the impending 0.9.3 version :)21:39
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Alison_ChaikenIs there no #meego-meeting today?22:00
StskeepsAlison_Chaiken: TSG was moved a week according to wiki22:00
Alison_ChaikenStskeeps, it's next week then?22:01
Stskeepsyeah22:01
Alison_ChaikenThanks, I'll change my calendar.22:01
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alteregoTSG was last night22:03
alteregoOh wait, was that something else ..22:03
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StskeepsTNG?22:04
alteregoHeh22:05
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lcukI am right, n900 does have working wifi at the moment doesn't it?22:33
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Myrtti*sigh* this shoulder pain is making my life miserable23:11
Myrttinow I'm wondering am I cranky as well23:11
CosmoHillare you single?23:11
alteregoHahah23:12
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MyrttiCosmoHill: can't see how that relates...?23:12
DawnFosterCosmoHill: you behave yourself mister :)23:12
lcukDawnFoster, I actually read the genuine concern then23:12
DawnFosterremember that bib brother is always watching (or maybe big sister in my case) :)23:12
CosmoHillthe punch line was Myrtti says "no" and I go "then shut up then"23:12
DawnFosterand I can't type23:13
MyrttiCosmoHill: I prefer to participate in jokes I understand23:13
CosmoHillmaybe big brother has a gender issue?23:13
CosmoHillmaybe cosmo should think before he types?23:13
Stskeepsprobably23:13
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Myrtti*sigh* I'll just go and sulk in bed23:14
lcukMyrtti, is it injured or "merely" aching?23:14
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* CosmoHill gives Myrtti some painkillers23:15
Myrttihaven't injured it to my knowledge, but my shoulder joint has started popping and I can't turn my head - walking and swallowing is a bit difficult too23:15
lcukeep23:15
* Myrtti spreads half a tube of Voltarol on the shoulder23:15
CosmoHillMyrtti: maybe you're sleeping funny23:15
MyrttiI don't know, I just feel miserable23:16
CosmoHillDawnFoster: fyi Myrtti is safe23:16
* Tm_T huggles Myrtti with all the warmness he got23:17
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Tm_Tthiago_ny: the url is still wrong (;23:19
CosmoHillDawnFoster: fyi they fixed the FAQ wiki issue23:21
Tm_Tgood night all23:22
CosmoHillcyas Tm_T23:22
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* CosmoHill throws a kitten to DawnFoster 23:32
DawnFosterCosmoHill: Yay kittens :)23:33
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CosmoHillyou'd be standing there and the next think you know my mate's kitten will run up your back23:33
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CosmoHillmy mate said I had scratches on my back :/23:35
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harounDoes anyone know , from which src.rpm I can get "pvr_drv.so" driver ??23:53
CosmoHillthe GMA500 driver?23:53
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haroun pvr-bin .. I got it ...23:56
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