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| smoku | CosmoHill, possibly. but if you want, I could power-on my A1200 :) | 00:03 |
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| CosmoHill | what's that? | 00:03 |
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| smoku | CosmoHill, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga_1200 | 00:14 |
| CosmoHill | mine was made this century :) | 00:14 |
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| lbt | night al | 02:27 |
| CosmoHill | bye | 02:27 |
| CosmoHill | might as well be off too | 02:27 |
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| Jaffa | lbt: pong | 08:14 |
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| Termana | morning | 08:31 |
| wassupnari | hello | 08:32 |
| wassupnari | does Meego supports "live wallpaper"? | 08:32 |
| wmarone | it might | 08:32 |
| wassupnari | anyone knows? | 08:32 |
| wmarone | "live wallpaper" might be a feature of some vendor installed desktop | 08:33 |
| wassupnari | hm.. i'm working on handset device | 08:33 |
| Stskeeps | wassupnari: look at duihome code, i guess | 08:33 |
| wassupnari | and developing application using Qt, but i cannot find which 'service' can register that widget as a live wallpaper | 08:34 |
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| Stskeeps | wassupnari: there's plugins for duihome, i believe | 08:34 |
| wassupnari | duihome? | 08:34 |
| Stskeeps | yes, the home screen in handset UX | 08:34 |
| wassupnari | duihome plugin is a kind of source repository? | 08:35 |
| Stskeeps | no, it's a method on how to attach to the home screen :) | 08:36 |
| wassupnari | oh, i see | 08:36 |
| Stskeeps | look at the source code for duihome, it'll make more sense | 08:36 |
| wassupnari | i'll check it | 08:36 |
| wassupnari | appreciate that! :) | 08:36 |
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| wassupnari | Does duihome plugin is a kind of program that can be deployed on Meego? | 08:44 |
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| wassupnari | Stskeeps, are you there? | 08:46 |
| Stskeeps | wassupnari: basically duihome has a plug-in architecture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-in_%28computing%29 ) http://meego.gitorious.org/meegotouch/meegotouch-home/trees/master/src/extensions/plaindesktopbackgroundextension | 08:46 |
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| wassupnari | okay, i'll look around this code, and will ask again. | 08:47 |
| wassupnari | Thank you so much!! | 08:47 |
| Stskeeps | no problem, just remember to do some research on the code of the components you're using | 08:48 |
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| wassupnari | okay :) | 08:51 |
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| steventao | Hi all. | 10:21 |
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| amjad | hi | 10:23 |
| steventao | I got some probmel when I use dist_compliance. | 10:23 |
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| steventao | It will show AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'name' | 10:24 |
| steventao | I don't know why. | 10:24 |
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| steventao | Could someone tell me why... | 10:26 |
| Myrtti | moin | 10:26 |
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| steventao | ? | 10:27 |
| Stskeeps | steventao: you probably need to give a bigger paste on pastie.org for instance, the error itself doesn't make much sense | 10:28 |
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| steventao | Ok...wait a monent | 10:29 |
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| steventao | http://pastie.org/1469145 | 10:30 |
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| Stskeeps | looks broken, could you file a bug against compliance tools? | 10:31 |
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| steventao | hmm..see | 10:33 |
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| steventao | I will file a bug. | 10:33 |
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| thiago | lcuk: thanks | 11:32 |
| * thiago appreciates the caffeine | 11:32 | |
| * thiago is just over 24 hours from flying somewhere tomorrow | 11:34 | |
| thiago | and I still don't know where | 11:34 |
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| * dm8tbr already made it halfway through europe | 11:40 | |
| dm8tbr | currently DUS airport | 11:40 |
| lcuk | thiago, on a magic mystery tour!? | 11:40 |
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| thiago | so mystery that even I don't know | 11:41 |
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| thiago | dm8tbr: which flights connect in DUS? | 11:41 |
| v_zaitsev | some dublin flights at least for sure :) | 11:42 |
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| dm8tbr | already went from TMP to ARN and then DUS. next and final destination W | 11:43 |
| dm8tbr | WRO | 11:43 |
| thiago | ouch | 11:43 |
| thiago | that's a long hop to get there | 11:43 |
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| thiago | sounds like Las Palmas in 2009... | 11:44 |
| thiago | OSL-FRA-MAD-LAS | 11:44 |
| thiago | LPA I mean | 11:44 |
| thiago | LAS is Las Vegas | 11:44 |
| dm8tbr | the other way would be hel / warsaw / wro | 11:44 |
| thiago | HEL has free wifi | 11:44 |
| thiago | ARN doesn't | 11:44 |
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| dm8tbr | yeah, neither does DUS | 11:45 |
| * dm8tbr uses company sim for brief status update | 11:45 | |
| lcuk | thiago, scrabble rules: what sthe longest word you can make using the letters of recent airports? :P | 11:45 |
| lcuk | whats the ^ | 11:45 |
| thiago | dm8tbr: yeah, tried that in Brazil when I was at the beach | 11:45 |
| thiago | 350 € in data transfer... | 11:46 |
| thiago | lcuk: depends on whether you go to Canada or not | 11:46 |
| thiago | you can't make scrabble words with Canadia airport codes | 11:46 |
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| * dm8tbr invested the equiv of 25¤ into his polish prepaids and will save his employer a _lot_ (this bought me 7GB) | 11:47 | |
| thiago | ¤ ? | 11:47 |
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| dm8tbr | 100pln | 11:47 |
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| thiago | I meant the symbol | 11:48 |
| lcuk | lol thiago - those are the high scoring ones, you can use vowels from other regular airports | 11:48 |
| thiago | I'm guessing you're using ISO-8859-15 and my client translated to Latin 1 | 11:48 |
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| part | thiago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Currency_%28typography%29 | 11:48 |
| dm8tbr | hmm my irssi should use wtf-8 | 11:48 |
| thiago | lcuk: YYZ, YVR, YOW, YUL, YXE | 11:49 |
| * thiago wonders if there's an airport in Canada YQZ or YZQ | 11:49 | |
| thiago | that would be the highest scoring | 11:49 |
| thiago | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YQZ - Quesnel Airport | 11:50 |
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| sandst1 | YYZ is the strongest because it's got its own song | 11:53 |
| sandst1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3hJ5-ngUow | 11:53 |
| sandst1 | :P | 11:53 |
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| CosmoHill | the wifi on a powerbook kinda sucks | 12:33 |
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| lcuk | CosmoHill, so don't use a powerbook. | 12:36 |
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| CosmoHill | I don't have the 4 million pounds required to buy a new mac laptop tho | 12:36 |
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| lcuk | CosmoHill, who said anything about a mac :P | 12:37 |
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| CosmoHill | bbl | 12:38 |
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| CosmoHill | back | 12:50 |
| amjad | CosmoHill you using Yellow dog linux on powerbook by any chance?? | 12:51 |
| CosmoHill | nope, 10.5 leopard | 12:51 |
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| amjad | thought so, i assume you have G4 :) when i was developing yellow dog linux (5.x) we always had issues with wifi (bm drivers ) :) | 12:52 |
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| CosmoHill | @intel people, if I say anything bad about you it's probably cos of apple leaving ppc | 12:54 |
| thiago | so apple preferring intel is bad for intel? | 12:55 |
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| CosmoHill | I mean i might say something a bit stupid | 12:57 |
| CosmoHill | I can see thiago backing me into a corner very quickly so I'm gonna get some toast | 12:58 |
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| lcuk | o_O http://blogs.nokia.com/nseries/2011/01/17/worlds-most-expensive-nokia-phones/ | 13:03 |
| CosmoHill | I read that as "on a scale of 1 - whore" :/ | 13:04 |
| CosmoHill | whilst they may be great phones and cost a lot of money, they do like like "chavy" | 13:05 |
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| CosmoHill | lcuk: I'm leaving in about half an hour to get my results :/ | 13:09 |
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| lcuk | i thought you already got those last week? | 13:09 |
| CosmoHill | I got the unmoderated marks for two assignments | 13:09 |
| CosmoHill | I have one assignment and one exam to get | 13:10 |
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| CosmoHill | I need 70%+ in the exam since I got 70% in the assignment | 13:10 |
| lcuk | ahh cool | 13:10 |
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| CosmoHill | the assignment and exam are worth 50% of the grade for Data Structures and Algorithms | 13:11 |
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| raghum | File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/mic/imgcreate/kickstart.py", line 29, in <module> | 13:53 |
| raghum | import pykickstart.commands as kscommands | 13:53 |
| raghum | ImportError: No module named pykickstart.commands | 13:53 |
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| raghum | sorry for the garbled dump | 13:54 |
| raghum | I am trying to build Meego FS. I get the error "ImportError: No module named pykickstart.commands" | 13:55 |
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| raghum | I tried to update python2.6-dev. But I still get the "ImportError: No module named pykickstart.commands" | 13:57 |
| raghum | any help? | 13:57 |
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| steventao | Hi all again. | 14:11 |
| steventao | After some test and study, I still feel confuse about app-compliance-tool. | 14:12 |
| steventao | I don't know why I need it. | 14:12 |
| Stskeeps | it's supposed to be run against rpm packages, i think | 14:12 |
| steventao | If I use sdk to develop my AP, it will be a problem? | 14:13 |
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| tcs-meego | when does 1.2 come up? | 15:03 |
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| tcs-meego | there are too many things that i am waiting for that arent there in 1.1 | 15:04 |
| frals | wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering or smth should have the info | 15:04 |
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| * lcuk engineers frals | 15:04 | |
| tcs-meego | hmm .. end of march :( | 15:05 |
| alterego | Hrm, can't get theming to work on desktop meego-touch :/ | 15:06 |
| Stskeeps | tcs-meego: that's why you develop your product alongside :) | 15:06 |
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| tcs-meego | is anyone here maintaining bluetooth-qt for meego.. it has a .pro and .pri file..where the files it is pointing to are missing altogether | 15:32 |
| Stskeeps | sounds a bit broken, like that in 1.2 too? | 15:33 |
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| alterego | bluetooth-qt? Not qt mobility connectivity api? | 15:35 |
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| tcs-meego | i found bluetooth-qt... qt mobility connectivity api seems like it will come up in 1.2 | 15:38 |
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| alterego | tcs-meego: exactly, it's best to develop along side 1.2 trunk like Stskeeps suggested. | 15:42 |
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| vgrade-nexus | Stskeeps, has the armv7hl build finished? | 17:07 |
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| hena | sigh, someone working on netbook fullscreen zones? | 18:03 |
| hena | i hate the face that you can't change zones if you have something fullscreen | 18:03 |
| hena | s/face/fact/ | 18:03 |
| infobot | hena meant: i hate the fact that you can't change zones if you have something fullscreen | 18:03 |
| hena | ugh | 18:03 |
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| araujo | morning | 18:38 |
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| berndhs | araujo: howdy | 18:40 |
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| vgrade-nexus | Stskeeps, no problem, thanks | 18:52 |
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| vgrade-nexus | looks forward to the time when he can look inside the main OBS | 18:54 |
| berndhs | yeah the world will never be the same after that | 18:55 |
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| araujo | heh | 18:57 |
| araujo | hi berndhs | 18:57 |
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| sabotage | Stskeeps: pong | 19:07 |
| Stskeeps | sabotage: ah, sorry, didn't mean to summon you :P we were discussing about community obs | 19:08 |
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| sabotage | oh, kk | 19:08 |
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| * sabotage was non-techie this weekend, painting some machine parts on a stone/gem grinder he's restoring | 19:09 | |
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| CosmoHill | that's the first time I've sworn at a petrol pump | 19:12 |
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| CosmoHill | anyone know how to report a website to google / yahoo? | 19:59 |
| Jartza | CosmoHill: how to "report"? | 19:59 |
| Jartza | to add into indexing, or to report for abuse etc? | 19:59 |
| Jartza | http://www.google.com/addurl/ at least adds site to google indexing | 20:00 |
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| CosmoHill | someone spammed our forum so I want them to suffer | 20:06 |
| Stskeeps | CosmoHill: revenge publically logged in irc logs isn't a good thing :) | 20:07 |
| CosmoHill | hehe | 20:07 |
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| CosmoHill | sod google, I'm not creating an account just to have a URL remove3d | 20:09 |
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| Gepettovski | Question: Apart from the MeeGo OS, is there any Linux distro which currently supports the MeeGo Netbook UX? The Fedora packages are broken and Smeegol is a huge mess. | 20:10 |
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| CosmoHill | wasn't there a Ubuntu remix? | 20:11 |
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| Gepettovski | There was, but they discontinued it when they decided to go with Unity | 20:17 |
| Gepettovski | This was before MeeGo, too - it was Moblin | 20:18 |
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| Gepettovski | I aks because my new netbook has lots of hardware that MeeGo doesn't support yet, but almost every big distro I've tried had the necessary hardware support. It's easier to throw a mask on one of those than to go out hunting for drivers | 20:19 |
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| CosmoHill | what hardware do you have? | 20:22 |
| Gepettovski | I have an LG X140 | 20:22 |
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| wmarone | Gepettovski: what hardware does meego not support? | 20:23 |
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| Gepettovski | wmarone: that would be my webcam, microphone, integrated 3G modem and wireless card. | 20:25 |
| Gepettovski | The drivers for the wireless card are easily available from ralink, so that's a non-issue | 20:25 |
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| Gepettovski | I think I'll take this silence as a "no, there isn't". | 20:34 |
| Gepettovski | It's a shame, but | 20:34 |
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| Gepettovski | I suppose in a year or so my hardware will probably have 100% native support. Such is the world of Linux drivers | 20:35 |
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| RST38h | moo al | 20:52 |
| RST38h | +l | 20:52 |
| CosmoHill | mew | 20:52 |
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| Sage | lbt: ping, it seems that the build.pub.meego.com repository copy of trunk isn't very uptodate. Meaning: MeeGo:current:Core. Could that be updated? | 20:56 |
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| timeless_xchat | anyone awake? | 21:15 |
| mwichmann | no | 21:15 |
| wmarone | just us chickens | 21:15 |
| auke | please don't wake me up :) | 21:15 |
| Myrtti | bwaak. | 21:15 |
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| timeless_xchat | can someone remind me about auth... is bugs.meego.com using unified auth w/ *.meego.com? | 21:17 |
| Myrtti | yup | 21:18 |
| Myrtti | well... | 21:18 |
| Myrtti | kinda | 21:18 |
| wmarone | it should be, I use the same login across all of the sites | 21:19 |
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| Myrtti | bugs cant handle openid tho | 21:19 |
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| wmarone | true | 21:20 |
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| andre__ | bugs not handling openID is an upstream Bugzilla issue | 21:26 |
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| valianholt | good day | 21:50 |
| hena | also, when maximized windows in a zone, the windowbar could hide... ;) | 21:50 |
| hena | or titlebar | 21:51 |
| valianholt | would like to see your opinion people in there :) MWC is upcoming, in February actually, rumors say that Nokia N9 will be announced, is the community version of MeeGo fully usable yet, so they will use it, or probably it will be some Nokia fork with many closed source parts? :) | 21:51 |
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| hena | no | 21:52 |
| valianholt | or it will be from regular MeeGo team, which have to keep all the details about OS secured, so they will release source codes afterward? | 21:53 |
| Stskeeps | valianholt: well, i think nokia will dump a load of differentiation on top of any OS, closed source, really :P | 21:53 |
| hena | :/ | 21:53 |
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| Stskeeps | valianholt: http://wiki.maemo.org/What_can_we_realistically_expect#Questions_.26_Answers_about_Harmattan might be a hint on what would be released, if at all, by nokia, at some point | 21:54 |
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| valianholt | I see | 21:59 |
| valianholt | thx | 21:59 |
| Stskeeps | hopefully they'll course correct and get on real meego horse :) | 21:59 |
| valianholt | so basically, MeeGo is just the base OS, what we saw on N900 etc., but they awaiting boom/big success from Nokia, will be mainly harmattan merit? | 22:01 |
| valianholt | same like N900 = debian base + very cool fremantle | 22:01 |
| valianholt | the awaiting ... * | 22:01 |
| Stskeeps | harmattan is maemo5 + 1, basically, but anyway.. what will matter is MeeGo API :) | 22:02 |
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| valianholt | k | 22:03 |
| Stskeeps | and the SDKs there | 22:03 |
| valianholt | cuz want to buy Dell Streak, in case that Nokia Meego device won't be announced in February | 22:03 |
| valianholt | but still giving a chance to Nokia | 22:03 |
| Stskeeps | isn't the streak a bit old by now? | 22:03 |
| valianholt | new version going to be released on MWC | 22:04 |
| valianholt | better hardware, dual core | 22:04 |
| valianholt | I like the screen size | 22:04 |
| valianholt | great for a GPS device :) | 22:04 |
| valianholt | but I don't know, android is still somehow not interesting to me, boring OS with bunch of apps | 22:05 |
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| valianholt | I had two N900s but sold each, waiting for someting better | 22:05 |
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| timeless_xchat | service notice: mxr.meego.com is down until i undo it | 22:10 |
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| hena | could the atom packages be named as ia32, same as the platform, in the future? :) | 22:25 |
| Stskeeps | if you recode all the scripts, sure ;) | 22:26 |
| hena | hehe | 22:27 |
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| lcuk | what specific image and video codecs are included in the open source maemo release from repositories? and are these formats supported for generation by the camera software | 23:01 |
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| lcuk | ie so that can make photos and videos from onboard camera and view/share them :) | 23:01 |
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| steven_ | So I'm looking at meego & it looks pretty cool. Just wondering what the UI is built on. | 23:30 |
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| GAN900 | steven_, depends on which UX. | 23:45 |
| GAN900 | Ideally Qt, though. | 23:45 |
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| fiferboy | Netbook UX is Gtk-based at the moment :( | 23:47 |
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| hena | at the moment, that's so great :) | 23:48 |
| hena | not that i prefer anything, but all of my most needes apps are gtk only ;) | 23:48 |
| fiferboy | I am nothing it not optimistic | 23:48 |
| fiferboy | Qt support on the Netbook UX is decent for the time being | 23:49 |
| fiferboy | Except if you need mysql capabilities... | 23:50 |
| steven_ | Why would mysql & qt be needed on a netbook? Seems like SQLite would be better for embedded operations. | 23:52 |
| hena | i needed it | 23:53 |
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| hena | local databases are always needed | 23:54 |
| fiferboy | sqlite is fine for local storage, but if you want to communicate or sync with a server mysql makes that easier | 23:54 |
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| hena | well, i wanna have a local copy of drupal on my netbook for reason foo | 23:54 |
| hena | doesn't sound so unreasonable scenario | 23:55 |
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| steven_ | Guess my point was MySQL tends to be overkill for most things. I once wrote an MMO that ran off of SQLite & that was 4 or 5 years ago. | 23:55 |
| hena | but it's still widely used | 23:56 |
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| steven_ | Sooo umm just curious by why not just use an ODBC driver for that stuff? | 23:56 |
| CosmoHill | :) | 23:56 |
| hena | i guess it just comes down to why not | 23:57 |
| steven_ | That way you stay Database agnostic & don't have to worry about Oracle pulling something sneaky with it. | 23:57 |
| fiferboy | steven_: You mean the generic ODBC to communicate with a server? | 23:57 |
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| steven_ | Yes I do. I'm not saying for everything, I'm just saying in instances where you want to communicate with a remote MySQL instance, ODBC might be a better way to go in most cases. | 23:58 |
| CosmoHill | lcuk: my results are various shades of awesome :D | 23:59 |
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| fiferboy | steven_: The Qt documentation says a native driver should be given preference to the ODBC driver | 23:59 |
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| fiferboy | I already had a mysql database setup on a server, and I thought native driver would be the way to go (since I was already using it on other platforms) | 23:59 |
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