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dm8tbryaay, the latest available netbook-qemu image still crashes vbox4, also on windows00:37
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dm8tbrany outlook how long 'meego-netbook-ia32-qemu' will be broken?00:41
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dm8tbrmh I can't even find a bug on bmc that netbook qemu images are broken due to a rpm conflict?00:54
dm8tbrdoes that mean nobody noticed yet?00:55
dm8tbrhttp://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/1.1.80.13.20110105.1/netbook/images/meego-netbook-ia32-qemu/00:55
dm8tbrFailed to build transaction : pvr-bin conflicts with mesa-libGLESv200:56
Stskeepsthere's a bug on that one00:56
Stskeepsthere was a .ks changeover so some things might break00:57
Stskeepshttp://qa-reports.meego.com/1.2/Core/Sanity/Netbook/615  , Key Issues:00:57
Stskeeps* Meego can't start X successfully(12070)00:57
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Stskeepsanyhow, sleep00:58
dm8tbr*nod*00:58
dm8tbrhere too00:58
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Termanamorning06:44
Alison_ChaikenHuomenta Termana.06:49
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pupnikhuomenta09:09
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Alison_ChaikenPäivät pitkät pyöräilyä: hyvä yuötä!09:58
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Stskeepsmorn david10:03
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dm8tbrStskeeps: ftr - I don't see QA test reports for the netbook qemu image10:35
Stskeepsreally? hmm10:37
Stskeepswhere did i see it then10:37
Stskeepsthis might be a leopard problem [1]10:38
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dm8tbrI do not have the visibility, but my guess is that nobody knows as the key words from the error log of mic2 don't show anything in BMC10:39
Stskeepshttp://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-releases/2011-January/001033.html , (if netbook doesnt boot, so wont qemu)10:39
dm8tbrthe image doesn't even get generated due to conflicting packages10:39
Stskeepshttp://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-releases/2011-January/001021.html10:39
dm8tbrok so it's general pvr screwup and it should work again eventually10:40
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Stskeepsyes10:41
Stskeepsand why i think hardware adaptations should be seperate from core ;)10:41
Stskeeps(this is probably the longest running discussion in meego)10:41
Stskeepsoriginally we had our own 'n900' section10:41
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pupnikStskeeps is right10:50
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henahena-desktop klogd: [223851.009921] Process zypper (pid: 6234, ti=e6ce8000 task=c936cdf0 task.ti=e6ce8000)10:58
henaSegmentation fault10:58
Stskeepsssse3?10:59
henanope10:59
henasorry, yes10:59
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henait seems to trigger only on install libcurl-devel11:02
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henasudo zypper install zypper-debug11:53
henaLoading repository data...11:53
henaReading installed packages...11:53
henaPackage 'zypper' not found.11:53
henaseems also weird that it complains about not finding zypper when i'm trying to install something else11:53
Stskeepsenable debuginfo repos11:55
henasigh, i guess i need to get over my abstinence about web11:55
henaand log into bugzilla or whatever it is11:55
henai have it, i just had an incorrect package name11:55
henait's zypper-debug11:56
henait's zypper-debuginfo11:56
henabut when i tried with -debug, it complains that i can't find package zypper11:56
henawhen it should have been obviously zypper-debug that it can't find11:56
Stskeepsmm11:58
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henawarning: the debug information found in "/usr/lib/debug//usr/bin/zypper.debug" does not match "/usr/bin/zypper" (CRC mismatch).12:29
henasigh, this is not my day12:29
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timeless_mbphena: compare the versions, are they the same?12:40
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henathey were not, updating the system now12:43
henasomehow i just assumed that it would install the same version12:43
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henaok, seems like i can't even install the same versions of zypper and zypper-debuginfo13:28
henaor then i'm just braindead13:28
henawhich is likely13:28
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Stskeepsdneary: was there ever any followups after http://live.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/20101223 hildon stuff?13:46
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lcukmorning \o13:53
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henaok, wtf14:06
henawhy are they different versions?14:06
henamorn lcuk14:06
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lcukare the repositories broken again14:27
lcukdoing zypper refresh causing errors14:27
lcukerrr zypper update14:27
henai got some too14:33
henafrom testing14:33
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henaok, now i'm getting for pretty much everything14:36
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lcukhena, yeah its odd14:40
lcukRetrieving repository 'handset' metadata [\]14:41
lcukSignature verification failed for file 'repomd.xml' from repository 'handset'.14:41
lcukWarning: This might be caused by a malicious change in the file!14:41
lcukContinuing might be risky. Continue anyway? [yes/no] (no): yes14:41
lcukRetrieving repository 'handset' metadata [/]14:41
lcukDownload (curl) error for 'http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/daily/handset/repos/ia32/packages/repodata/131a16d7698480652a169db5eb30a628431670917fb2b571c7d8000288f4f5f0-primary.sqlite.bz2':14:41
lcukError code: Unrecognized error14:41
lcukError message: HTTP server doesn't seem to support byte ranges. Cannot resume.14:41
Stskeepsone of the kernel.org mirrors are acting up14:42
lcuksounds like it14:42
henai guess that could explain my inconsistensies also, then14:43
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henaalso, kind of annoying that if i'm running mplayer with many files for example, it gets new zones by random15:05
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henaevery second file opens up in a new zone and the other in existing zone15:06
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vljhi17:47
vljthere is no facebook plugin in meego 1.1 ?17:47
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nhghi all19:12
nhgJust wondering if anyone received the lenovo netbook shipments from the meego conference held in Dublin.  Me and my colleagues who attended the conference are still waiting for it.  This may not be the right forum for this question but if anyone can point me in the right direction on this it would be appreciated.  Thanks.19:14
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Stskeepsi think some did receive it19:15
Stskeepsforum.meego.com has a thread on it19:15
nhgStskeeps: any ideas if there is someone at Intel we should followup with?  We sent a couple of emails to Amy Leeland but haven't got any response from her.19:16
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berndhssome European shipping is still confused from the 12 millimeters of snow they got a month ago19:17
mihero:)19:18
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Stskeepsnhg: no idea sorry19:20
nhgStskeeps:  no worries....I just need to find the right folks at Intel to followup on it.19:21
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CosmoHillI've been up for 7 hours and I've only just turned the computer on, something must be wrong with me20:06
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lcukCosmoHill, most days I never turn the computer on20:09
lcukmind you, I don't turn it off either20:09
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CosmoHill8 days until I get my assignment / exam results :)21:51
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Mat_MatanCosmoHill: you will fail it :P21:52
CosmoHillyou sound like my friend simon21:52
Mat_Matanhłehłehłe21:52
Mat_Matan:]21:52
CosmoHill"good luck (you're gonna fail, fail!)21:52
CosmoHill"remember, the worst thing that can happen is that you wouldn't be able to answer any of the questions and you'll look like an idiot"21:53
lcukCosmoHill, this isn't final result though is it?21:53
CosmoHillnope21:54
BostikI'd like to see if I can fail the Turing Test21:54
CosmoHillfirst semester21:55
CosmoHillit's 3/8th of my degree21:55
* CosmoHill is now scared21:55
lcukBostik, I would like to pass turing test for once21:55
CosmoHillBostik: the first thing most people get wrong is the pronunciation21:55
Bostik:p21:56
CosmoHillhuh, bbc iplayer has just stopped playing mid way and quit21:56
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CosmoHillthe user who's just quit is making me think of the rice pudding I've just eaten21:56
* Mat_Matan have only 2 weeks to Spring Break21:58
CosmoHillah is that what it's called?21:58
CosmoHillwe call it "lecturer's leaving us for 3 weeks when we need them the most"21:58
CosmoHilloften shorted to "easter"21:59
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CosmoHillnoooooooo, I have an exam on Database somrthing or other22:07
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Jartzahmmh22:20
Jartzanow finally some time to test meego on n90022:21
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zarizJartza: don't hesitate to tell how it works.22:28
Jartzayeah22:28
Jartzaas soon as I get everything backed up22:29
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Stskeeps1.1 'demo' image on tablets-dev.nokia.com/meego-codedrop.php is usually better for 'just test', the 1.1.80/1.2 images are still under development22:29
Jartzaalthough it doesn't matter that much, that n900 is broken anyway22:29
JartzaStskeeps: I'm going to test the whole application dev. cycle22:30
Stskeeps:nod:22:30
Jartzabecause I have to create the course materials out of that :)22:30
Stskeepsgood luck - if you have any questions regarding meego on n900, feel free to ask in #meego-arm22:31
Stskeepstraining materials are good :)22:31
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Stskeepswhat kind of course materials btw?22:32
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cameroonihiya - is anyone able to help me.. did a fresh install on my netbook of meego 1.1 netbook with chrome browser.. however a lot of sites: google/twitter etc say that the servers security certificate has been revoked!? and also trying to do a system update i get 'a security signature is not present'!? any assistance would be greatly appreciated..22:53
Stskeepscamerooni: is your time set correctly?22:53
cameroonii believe so.. i did a reinstall a few minutes ago and set it to 7.24 (it's now 7.54 in Melbourne, Aus)22:54
Stskeepsyear correctly?22:54
cameroonijanuary 7, 201122:55
Stskeepshmm22:55
Stskeepsthat should work, yeah22:55
cameroonigoing into the date & time in the system panel though and i just get a blank screen?22:55
cameroonii recall before the install, when i was running direct from the usb (and the google sites/twitter in the status panel were working) that there were time/date settings similar to the one in the install process22:57
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Stskeepshmm22:57
CosmoHillmy computer just said "oh no", literary said that, how worried should I be?22:57
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ali1234are you playing lemmings?22:58
CosmoHillnope22:58
ali1234probably worry then22:58
Stskeepsi don't know too much about the netbook build, camerooni - but those errors really sound like time/date problems22:58
camerooniis there a way that i could forcibly reinstall the date/time components via the command line or similar..?22:59
CosmoHillcamerooni: the certificate might only last 10 mins22:59
CosmoHilland if your clock is 30 mins wrong it will reject it22:59
Mat_MatanFFUUUU when nokia will open software shop for meego apps -.- i can't wait more22:59
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vljhi23:00
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vgradevlj, evening23:00
vljgood evening :)23:01
vgradelong time23:01
vljI saw you're working on a tegra 2 port of meego23:01
vgradewhat are you up to23:01
vljyup23:01
vljwell, I was packaging maven 2 for opensuse23:01
vljI'm still packaging maven2 for opensuse :p23:01
vgradeyes, need to get some kernel source for the tegra23:02
vljYesterday I installed meego223:02
camerooniokay.. thanks guys. how would i ensure my clock is setup correctly.. should i just do a fresh install and ignore and time/date changes?23:02
vgradeto progress meego23:02
vljmeego 1.1*23:02
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vljdid you see the kernel source for folion 100 ?23:02
vljI worked a bit on getting ubuntu on ac10023:02
vljsources are available for ac100/folio 100 kernel23:03
elf_Hello! Could help me with this problem. I installed Meego 1.1 on my tablet PC . But the Wifi does not work. Where I can download the packages who need to build the driver on the tablet PC?23:03
vgradetried the gtablet kernel but did not have much luck but that was before I got anything booting23:03
vljsadly the xorg part of tegra 2 display driver is not in a good shape23:03
vgradeam im the middle of it at the momemt23:04
vgradeStskeeps has a plan23:04
vljwhich one ? :)23:04
vgrade:)23:04
vljdowngrade meego xorg to 1.5 ?23:04
kyb3Relf_: http://slaine.org/_slaine/Meego_1.1_Wifi.html23:05
vgrade1.6 :)23:05
vljhttps://github.com/tsh/folio10023:05
vljok23:05
vlji guess there is no way to get acceleration from tegrafb to xorg23:05
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JartzaStskeeps: course materials for courses I arrange to companies, meego software development23:05
vgradethanks, the ac100 stuff was a great help23:05
Jartzaor more likely meego application development23:06
elf_<kyb3R>; I do not have Internet on a tablet. And I can not install on it rpmdevtools23:06
kyb3Relf_: too bad :)23:07
vgradevlj, in getting the vega flashed initially23:07
vljok23:07
vljbtw there is no Facebook plugin on Meego 1.1 ????23:07
kyb3Rbtw there is no Diaspora* plugin on Meego 1.1 ????23:08
vljthere was no diaspora plugin on meego 1.023:08
vljthere was a facebook plugin on Meego 1.023:08
kyb3Rnot that I know of23:08
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kyb3Roh ok.23:08
vljthat's why I'm asking23:08
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vljit is not very common to loose features in an update23:09
elf_<kyb3R>: can tell me where you can download these packages separately and transferred to a flash drive?23:09
kyb3Relf_: you really can't get your device on wire? What connection you're using now?23:10
elf_I am sitting on the Internet from another computer23:11
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kyb3Relf_: and you cant switch the wire?23:12
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elf_no, in the tablet is only wifi=(23:14
befr0delf_: what tablet is it? are you sure its a broadcom chipset?23:14
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elf_no, it is RTL8192SE . realtek chip23:16
befr0dthat slaine link is useless then, try http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?p=1414023:18
befr0dbut seems like you still require an internet connection23:19
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elf_I know where to download drivers and how to install them. I need to know where I can download make gcc kernel-netbook-devel  rpmdevtools. And then move them on flash to  the tablet pc.23:23
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clu.23:30
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Venemohow does MeeGo's compositor deal with portrait mode? all windows support portrait or a flag is needed, like on Maemo?23:54
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VenemoStskeeps: any idea about this one?23:58
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