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| voyager_za | jonnor: Try it...it's a quick fix, but it took me almost two weeks to find the answer | 00:12 |
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| jonnor | voyager_za: I will :) | 00:14 |
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| araujo | lbt, ping | 02:10 |
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| Guest21818 | Hi X-Fade | 02:14 |
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| haroun | is there a way to disable "welcome screen" on Meego Netbook image ? | 02:17 |
| niala1 | splash screen. the blue screen ? | 02:18 |
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| haroun | nialal : the screen appears after kernel boots up ... the used for configuring location , time ... | 02:23 |
| haroun | nialal : the screen appears after kernel boots up ... the one used for configuring location , time ... | 02:23 |
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| niala1 | screen for configuring each time you are rebooting haroun ? | 02:34 |
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| andyross | haroun: firstboot, I think you mean. It only happens once, so I'm not sure what the complaint would be. But it can be disabled: echo RUN_FIRSTBOOT=NO > /etc/sysconfig/firstboot (or uninstall it from the image, but that's more involved). We do this when testing custom stuff on netbook hardware. | 02:36 |
| niala1 | he ask at each boot you to configure your loacation time etc ? | 02:36 |
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| haroun | nialal : i think andyross is correct.. | 02:43 |
| niala1 | yes but strange first boot must appear only once | 02:44 |
| haroun | andyross: In my case , I am not able to see "firstboot" file in "etc/sysconfig" .. Do i need to create "firstboot" file ??? | 02:44 |
| andyross | Yes, it's not present by default. | 02:44 |
| haroun | thank you .. let me try that | 02:45 |
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| mwichmann | so how does one get the touchpad on the s10-3t to work correctly? | 03:22 |
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| mwichmann | per the manual (gasp!) and original windows load, the lower left and right corners are like mouse buttons | 03:23 |
| mwichmann | meego doesn't seem to recognize this at all | 03:24 |
| jonnor | mwichmann: http://wiki.meego.com/Devices/Ideapad | 03:24 |
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| mwichmann | hmmm, "new kernel" wasn't exactly what I wanted to hear, but I guess it will work... | 04:12 |
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| reethu | hi. when i am trying to do a meego-sdk-chroot on the meego sdk image[.raw file], i am getting error "chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory". Can somebody help me with this? | 08:21 |
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| voyager_za | anyone have any luck with realtek 8192 wifi driver? | 12:10 |
| voyager_za | I can modprobe it and there's some output in dmesg, but then iwconfig does not show it | 12:11 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt_away: you're going on holiday? wow | 12:50 |
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| lbt_away | Stskeeps: amazing ... but yes... and I don't think there's any connection! | 12:55 |
| lbt_away | back to the net on the 6th though | 12:55 |
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| lbt_away | taxi's here | 12:55 |
| lbt_away | Happy New Year everyone ;) | 12:56 |
| sandst1 | happy new year | 12:58 |
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| tcs-meego | Hi, I am trying to place a transparent overlay widget over an existing widget, but its opening in a different DISPLAY than the main widget.. what am i missing? | 14:27 |
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| CosmoHill | yay, Reading are in the playoffs :D | 15:21 |
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| megabast | hi all, someone has alreayd had this problem when compiling nbtk : Couldn't find include 'PangoCairo-1.0.gir' (search path: ['/usr/share/gir-1.0', '/usr/share/gir-1.0', '/usr/share/gir-1.0']) ? | 15:35 |
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| megabast | I Have gobject-introspection-devel installed on my systeme | 15:35 |
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| Iraqi | is can install meego on htc desire a8181? | 18:00 |
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| CosmoHill | not yet | 18:01 |
| CosmoHill | the only way at the moment is the very hard way of porting MeeGo to it | 18:01 |
| Iraqi | to be double boot with android | 18:01 |
| Iraqi | so is there any OS can install on htc desire? | 18:02 |
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| CosmoHill | not that I'm aware of but I'm not really a phone person | 18:02 |
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| lcuk | Iraqi, its not that it cannot be installed: its that nobody has attempted it yet. if you are skilled enough, perhaps you can :) | 18:05 |
| Iraqi | how much size meego for phone? | 18:07 |
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| Iraqi | let me test it if work or damage my phone ;) | 18:08 |
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| Iraqi | meego is installing by pc or online or offline on phone? | 18:09 |
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| lcuk | CosmoHill, are you going anywhere for New Year? | 18:31 |
| lcuk | likewise others? any decent parties going on near you? | 18:31 |
| CosmoHill | nope, family are coming over for my dad's 50th birthday | 18:31 |
| lcuk | birthday on Jan 1st? | 18:32 |
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| CosmoHill | yep | 18:36 |
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| flavio | how can I add missing libraries to my local meego sdk? I can install these libraries into the emulator using zypper but I would like to be able to build my program also on my development machine | 19:14 |
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| lcuk | flavio, exactly the same way | 19:21 |
| lcuk | "zypper se [package]" should tell you whether its available | 19:21 |
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| lcuk | dev packages are [package]-devel | 19:21 |
| lcuk | "sudo zypper in [package]-devel" usually gets it added :) | 19:22 |
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| flavio | lcuk: I want to install the development package inside of the development chroot | 19:27 |
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| flavio | I do not want to install it inside of the emulator | 19:27 |
| flavio | I want it on the host system | 19:27 |
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| flavio | lcuk: do you know what I mean? maybe I just confused you... | 19:36 |
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| lcuk | flavio, you did not confuse me | 19:43 |
| lcuk | what prevents you doing what I just said | 19:43 |
| lcuk | I build libmeegotouch directly on my meego install | 19:43 |
| lcuk | and other things | 19:43 |
| flavio | lcuk: I do not want to build it inside of the emulator, I want to build it on my host machine, so that I can also package the final app | 19:44 |
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| flavio | lcuk: I could package the app using meego's obs but I don't have an account. Unfortunately lbt_away is away (according to the wiki he's the one in charge of obs) | 19:45 |
| lcuk | flavio, packing for other systems is different to building | 19:45 |
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| berndhs | flavio: you want to install lib-meego-something on a host that is not meego ? | 19:45 |
| flavio | berndhs: yep | 19:46 |
| flavio | berndhs: I need to install both qjson-devel and marble-devel inside of the chroot of my host machine. So that I can work on my code using meego-qtcreator, build the code and run/debug it inside of the emulator | 19:47 |
| berndhs | qjson is available on pretty much everything I think | 19:47 |
| berndhs | I don't know about marble | 19:47 |
| flavio | berndhs: I'm using openSUSE 11.3 and they are both available but they are not visible to meego-sdk-qmake | 19:48 |
| berndhs | i doint have experience with the SDK, its weird :P | 19:49 |
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| flavio | it seems that developing inside the emulator is the best solution | 19:49 |
| berndhs | yeah but that is separate from host stuff you wanted | 19:50 |
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| berndhs | inside the emulator is outside the host | 19:50 |
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| flavio | berndhs: yeah, I know but it seems the only solution | 19:50 |
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| balor | Fun install issue - My superblock was mounted at UTC, the system time was then subsequently set to UTC-1. Now, on boot, you go into maintainence mode. | 20:39 |
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| thiago | huh? | 20:39 |
| thiago | times are always stored in UTC | 20:39 |
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| balor | thiago: hmm....I wonder where the issue is coming from then | 20:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~ping | 20:40 |
| thiago | you can change the clock backwards | 20:40 |
| thiago | but times are always stored in UTC | 20:40 |
| thiago | DocScrutinizer: what was that supposed to do? | 20:40 |
| thiago | there shouldn't be bots here | 20:40 |
| smoku | http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10260 - "It's broken by desing and it will stay like this". Cool. | 20:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | test if infobot aka apt aka ibot is actually here | 20:41 |
| balor | thiago: So the timestamp (in UTC) is being compared to the clock (UTC-1) and it has only been 10 mins since install..thus the superblock is timestamped in the future | 20:41 |
| thiago | balor: no, the clock is UTC | 20:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | there's a problem with the bot since some 2 days | 20:41 |
| thiago | balor: like I said, everything is UTC | 20:41 |
| balor | thiago: Ah. I wonder where the timestamp came from then | 20:41 |
| RST38h | smoku: You can write "hates meego ui" in the meego bugtracker. It is negative and non-constructive. | 20:42 |
| RST38h | s/ca/cannot | 20:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | thiago: there shouldn't be bots here? | 20:42 |
| thiago | balor: it can be that you store your hardware clock in local time (due to legacy operating systems) and your local time setting is wrong | 20:42 |
| thiago | balor: or the clock is wrong | 20:42 |
| thiago | DocScrutinizer: not that I know of | 20:42 |
| smoku | RST38h, this is exactly how I felt dealing with netbook ui | 20:42 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: writes or sends a message? | 20:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | I doubt that applies to infobot, as it tries to join channels only when chanop applies for that with Tim Riker | 20:42 |
| RST38h | smoku: Out of academic curiosity,what is wrong with notifications? | 20:43 |
| smoku | RST38h, read my last comment | 20:43 |
| RST38h | smoku: the last comment is written by rbradford and appears to indicate that notifications will still be visible to you | 20:43 |
| smoku | RST38h, F5 | 20:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | thiago: can loggong also relies on a bot | 20:44 |
| RST38h | sorry? | 20:44 |
| thiago | DocScrutinizer: what's a loggong? | 20:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | logging | 20:44 |
| thiago | DocScrutinizer: then please rephrase | 20:44 |
| smoku | RST38h, reload the page ;-) | 20:44 |
| thiago | the sentence doesn't make sense | 20:44 |
| RST38h | smoku: I see | 20:44 |
| RST38h | smoku: The next comment will be with a suggestion for you to hack at it and commit back the changes | 20:45 |
| smoku | RST38h, I already hacked it by installing Ubuntu Netbook UI :) | 20:45 |
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| RST38h | smoku: {funny, that was the suggestion I had in mind next :)} | 20:46 |
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| balor | Looks like the 1.1 release doesn't like my wireless :( And why was yum replaced with zypper? | 20:54 |
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| thiago | because the architects felt zypper was better | 20:55 |
| balor | thiago: Out of interest, why might one be better than the other? | 20:55 |
| thiago | ask the architects | 20:55 |
| balor | thiago: will do, thanks. | 20:56 |
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| timoph | at least zypper is faster | 20:56 |
| smoku | where is the meego OBS repository located? | 20:56 |
| thiago | repo.meego.com | 20:57 |
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| smoku | thiago, and where are the OBS built packages? | 21:00 |
| thiago | that's where OBS puts the packages it builds | 21:01 |
| smoku | ie. /MeeGo:/current:/Core/standard | 21:01 |
| thiago | obs.meego.com | 21:01 |
| smoku | > host obs.meego.com | 21:02 |
| smoku | Host obs.meego.com not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) | 21:02 |
| thiago | build.meego.com then | 21:02 |
| smoku | this is a web interface to OBS | 21:02 |
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| thiago | yes | 21:02 |
| smoku | I'm looking for a repo | 21:02 |
| thiago | then I need to read up on OBS lore before I can answer the question | 21:03 |
| thiago | I don't know what you're looking for | 21:03 |
| timoph | where currently literally hundreds of repos there.. | 21:03 |
| timoph | s/where | 21:03 |
| timoph | /there's/ | 21:03 |
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| timoph | :) | 21:03 |
| smoku | thanks for delaying me then. I already found the answer myself | 21:04 |
| * timoph is trying to get used to a new keyboard | 21:04 | |
| thiago | smoku: what is it? | 21:04 |
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| flavio | thiago: do you know how can I get an account on meego obs server? lbt_away is away | 21:06 |
| lcuk | X-Fade also has magic wand | 21:06 |
| lcuk | but he may also be away at this time, he needs your meego.com account name (thats been active for a while) | 21:07 |
| thiago | flavio: talk to lbt when he's not lbt_away | 21:07 |
| thiago | flavio: for now, try build.pub.meego.com | 21:07 |
| flavio | thanks | 21:08 |
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| flavio | thiago: unfortunately registration is broken, there's an exception at the end of the process | 21:11 |
| timoph | flavio: you need to request the account from X-Fade or lbt_away | 21:11 |
| timoph | see what lcuk said a few lines earlier | 21:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer | thiago: (rephrasation) the webpage you can see under http://mg.pov.lt/meego-irclog/search?q=infobot is *about* a bot always been on #meego, and it is created *by* a bot also in #meego obviously (povbot?) | 21:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer | thiago: infobot needs *invitation* by chanops or chan-owner, to initially join any channel. So it's been here by invitation | 21:25 |
| thiago | there's no nickname infobot | 21:25 |
| thiago | if you mean povbot`, anyone could have brought it in | 21:25 |
| lcuk | povbot` is awesome and existed for many years around maemo offering complete searchable logs :$ mgedmin is his wrangler and maintainer of mg.pov.lt | 21:27 |
| povbot` | lcuk: Error: "is" is not a valid command. | 21:27 |
| RST38h | Do Nokia and/or Intel have control of povbot? | 21:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer | thiago: sorry, I don't know how to utter my point more clearly. Sorry for my poor english, and sorry I wasn't able to explain to you why I did ~ping | 21:29 |
| javispedro | doesn't matter because infobot is not yet up aiui | 21:29 |
| thiago | DocScrutinizer: no, I understood why you did ~ping | 21:29 |
| thiago | DocScrutinizer: I just didn't understand the part about logging. The sentence didn't make sense. | 21:30 |
| thiago | anyone can log. So a log existing doesn't mean a bot is here. | 21:30 |
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| lcuk | RST38h idk, what does it matter | 21:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | javispedro: "we" (this chan can get infobot's sister apt | 21:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | javispedro: "we" (this chan) can get infobot's sister apt | 21:30 |
| javispedro | ah | 21:30 |
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| RST38h | lcuk: Well #meego is an official Meego channel, and it must have an official bot, and mgedmin's bot is notofficial | 21:31 |
| lcuk | then what does t matter about nokia or intel in this case, for official it should be LF shouldn't it? | 21:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | javispedro: I *know* infobot is "down", that's why I did a ~ping as ~chaninfo tells me apt thinks she joined #meego, which evidently she didn't | 21:31 |
| RST38h | lcuk: Major interest holders in the Meego project should be administering the bot, officially | 21:31 |
| lcuk | RST38h, its a log | 21:31 |
| * RST38h cackles evilly | 21:32 | |
| lcuk | mgedmin is a major interest holder in the project | 21:32 |
| lcuk | as are each and every one of us here. | 21:32 |
| RST38h | lcuk <-- bought it | 21:32 |
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| mikecomputing | is woifi WL driver broken in weekly build of meego-netbook | 21:43 |
| mikecomputing | ? | 21:43 |
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| Stskeeps | meh - the bots in here serve their purpose. known to me: povbot (official logs), MeeGoBot (bug lookup, etc), infobot (many freenode channels) and meegomeetbot (custodian of the meeting room) | 21:46 |
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| Stskeeps | povbot and meegomeetbot will merge when we have a shell at infra | 21:46 |
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| lcuk | Stskeeps, you forgot merbot exists | 21:49 |
| lcuk | (which is on your account afaik) | 21:49 |
| Stskeeps | ah, yes | 21:50 |
| Stskeeps | that one too merge | 21:50 |
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| Stskeeps | there's a wiki page | 21:50 |
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| lcuk | where? | 21:51 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.meego.com/Web_infrastructure/IRC | 21:52 |
| Stskeeps | actually, another one | 21:52 |
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| Stskeeps | http://wiki.meego.com/Web_infrastructure | 21:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Stskeeps: would you like to have back infobot with a different name? (just until I sort things out with Tim/infobot) | 21:53 |
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| Stskeeps | DocScrutinizer: same db? | 21:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | yep | 21:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer | same instance | 21:53 |
| RST38h | Told you, folks, #meego needs an official bot! | 21:53 |
| Stskeeps | possibly | 21:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ~ping | 21:54 |
| apt | ~pong | 21:54 |
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| javispedro | apt: hello | 21:54 |
| apt | Howdy Bub | 21:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | Stskeeps: if any time infobot resurrects, you might want to /kick apt - they don't act nicely when same time same room ;-D | 21:55 |
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| lcuk | anyone with meego netbook on something that is not the ideapad? | 22:59 |
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| lcuk | i would like to know if the adhoc networking bug we have there is generic or specific to lenovos | 23:00 |
| mwichmann | what would be a reproducer? | 23:00 |
| lcuk | have an adhoc network around and try to connect to it | 23:00 |
| mwichmann | I've got an acer | 23:00 |
| lcuk | the n900 can setup one easily | 23:00 |
| * lcuk uses adhoc often but the ideapad simply does not see them | 23:01 | |
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| lcuk | http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=440 Bug 440 - Unable to support ad-hoc mode for WiFi | 23:01 |
| lcuk | actually, its going to be a global issue with such a low bug number | 23:01 |
| lcuk | damn | 23:01 |
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| mwichmann | yeah, that's really old, sez it was a moblin bug before it | 23:04 |
| lcuk | yeah | 23:04 |
| mwichmann | I've had no end of trouble with wireless on the acer | 23:04 |
| lcuk | do you have specific bug numbers? | 23:05 |
| mwichmann | any kind of serious data transfer does something so weird it reboots my access point | 23:05 |
| mwichmann | two different ones in fact (a linksys and a netgear) | 23:05 |
| lcuk | access points are notorious for needing kicking and rebooting | 23:05 |
| lcuk | i think thats not related to the OS in use | 23:06 |
| lcuk | mine used to break on windows only | 23:06 |
| lcuk | hang on | 23:06 |
| mwichmann | other linux notebooks and windows don't see to have this | 23:06 |
| lcuk | that bug 440 in meego | 23:06 |
| lcuk | is marked fixed in moblin | 23:06 |
| lcuk | http://bugzilla.moblin.org/show_bug.cgi?id=537 | 23:06 |
| mwichmann | there was a moblin bug at least for this, but nobody else could reproduce, never went anywhere | 23:07 |
| lcuk | yeah | 23:07 |
| lcuk | networking bugs are frustrating | 23:07 |
| CosmoHill | http://dev.bluesquarelinux.co.uk/install.log :) | 23:07 |
| lcuk | even qt has had its share of things | 23:07 |
| CosmoHill | (I wrote the install script) | 23:08 |
| lcuk | QTBUG-7 just got fixed too | 23:08 |
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| lcuk | CosmoHill, install script for what? | 23:10 |
| CosmoHill | my distro :) | 23:10 |
| lcuk | isn't that offtopic then :P | 23:11 |
| CosmoHill | isn't everything I say? | 23:11 |
| iekku | :D | 23:11 |
| lcuk | good point | 23:12 |
| lcuk | MODSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS | 23:12 |
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| lcuk | CosmoHill, does your dad know hes having a party? | 23:18 |
| CosmoHill | I assume so | 23:18 |
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