IRC log of #meego for Friday, 2010-12-17

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niala1repo.meego.com is down00:00
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UmeaboyYaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!00:02
UmeaboyI sucessfully rooted my Kendo M7!00:02
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niala1CosmoHill: pan00:06
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CosmoHillhuh?00:09
niala1CosmoHill: sorry repo.meego.com is up now :)00:09
* CosmoHill smiles and nods00:09
niala1CosmoHill: you can watch tv :)00:09
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CosmoHillawesome00:10
niala1what is awesome CosmoHill?00:11
CosmoHillwatching tv?00:11
niala1who?00:12
MohammadAGwhat?00:12
niala1when?00:12
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MohammadAGwhy?00:12
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kaushikcannot find root file system. Create a symlink /dev/root00:13
kaushikany idea?00:13
CosmoHillthat isn't what root file system means00:13
kaushikso what does it mean?00:13
niala1no root fie system? do you have a hard disk ?00:13
CosmoHillit's the file system that / is00:13
CosmoHillfor example my / is ext300:14
kaushikI have a livecd image written to USB stick using mic-image-writer00:14
kaushikand i m trying to boot from there00:14
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niala1ah ah not so far :)00:15
CosmoHillhmm, you know the meego.img can be writen to a USB00:15
CosmoHillis that what you've done?00:15
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niala1image from .ks file or from meego.com ?00:16
kaushiki have wrote .iso to USB00:16
kaushikimage from .ks file00:16
niala1do you burn a candle when you write your image on usb ?00:16
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CosmoHillI mean you can write "meego-netbook-chromium-ia32-1.0-20100524.1.img" to a USB stick00:17
* niala1 kick himself00:17
kaushikwhat's candle? how do i check that?00:17
CosmoHillit involves a goat, you don't wanna know00:18
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kaushikis .img a preffered format for USB ?00:18
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CosmoHillthe meego .img files are preformated so they will work on both DVD and USB00:19
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lcukso, I appear to have accidentally opened #meego-bar and a couple of people wandered in following me, dawnfoster isnt here qgil either, Stskeeps can you remember in the morning to ask00:19
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CosmoHilllcuk: cool00:19
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* MohammadAG suggests it becomes an "offtopic" channel ;)00:20
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niala1lcuk: is the beer expensive in your bar ?00:22
lcukniala1, not at all00:22
lcukbut it is a work free zone :)00:22
niala1kaushik: how did you write your usb? which image?00:22
niala1work work always work....00:23
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kaushikCosmoHill: by .img did u mean i should create liveusb image? or convert iso into .img?00:25
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CosmoHillno, just download the meego one00:25
kaushikI am trying to create my own image from ks file00:26
kaushikand then boot it00:26
kaushikI can boot the one which is online00:27
kaushikI am able to*00:27
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niala1so the error is in your image.00:29
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kaushikwhile creating the image from ks files. I see this log in the end01:29
kaushikYour new image can be found here:01:29
kaushik/home/kaushik/meego/meego-netbook-ia32-1.1.80.9.20101207.1-1.1.80.20101213.2056.iso01:29
kaushikFinished.01:29
kaushikclose failed in file object destructor:01:29
kaushikIOError: [Errno 9] Bad file descriptor01:29
kaushikis anything wrong in ti?01:29
kaushikit*01:29
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ali1234yes, probably01:39
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lcuk#meego-bar is 24/7 open bar free beers and nibbles.02:21
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berndhsthey dont ship, do they02:26
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pupnikhttp://i.imgur.com/sqXWT.png02:40
CosmoHill"want a byte to eat? come to #meego-bar"02:40
pupnikhi CosmoHill02:40
pupnikclick02:40
MohammadAGCosmoHill, should go in the /topic :P02:40
CosmoHillpupnik: http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ldj64e3DtL1qzpwi0o1_500.jpg02:40
pupnikCosmoHill: you don't understand02:41
pupnikintel is behind meego02:41
pupnikintel is involved with genocide02:41
MohammadAGpupnik, sometimes you creep me out :P02:42
JunJiis the 'community obs' https://build.pub.meego.com/??02:42
CosmoHillJunJi: yes02:42
CosmoHillall *.pub.meego.com subdomains are02:42
JunJi:) yesterday I asked an account but it's not working yet02:42
JunJithanks02:43
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CosmoHillMohammadAG: I thought what I said was kinda cheesey02:43
JunJiI was always wondering how to show my nickname red02:44
pupnikMohammadAG: the 8088 was developed in an israeli research facility built on the graves of a palestinian town02:44
pupnikand the 8088 was the most evil processor ever released into the computing world02:44
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CosmoHillJunJi: it's called "highlight" it happens when someone else says your name02:44
JunJiCosmoHill: do you see me as red? :)02:44
CosmoHilli do now02:44
CosmoHillbut enough about my anger issues02:45
JunJiaha~~~~ nice. Thanks a lot02:45
pupnikintel has done good and bad things02:45
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pupnikbut you can't trust them02:46
pupnik808802:46
CosmoHillthat is why we stuck with the 808602:47
pupnikthat was developed in texas02:47
pupniknot so bad02:47
CosmoHills/8086/80386/02:47
infobotCosmoHill meant: that is why we stuck with the 8038602:47
pupnikMohammadAG: you know PROMIS software?02:47
CosmoHillpupnik: clearly the best processor is ARM because it was made in england02:48
pupnikwatch your six02:48
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CosmoHillit's almost 1, I have another 5 hours before I should worry02:49
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CosmoHillcyas02:54
lcuknn CosmoHill02:55
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MohammadAGnight CosmoHill03:01
MohammadAGand morning lcuk :P03:01
CosmoHillI've been distracted by youtube03:01
CosmoHillhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2jEM5aHHJc&feature=related03:01
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niala1night CosmoHill03:02
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niala1CosmoHill: big big rats!03:03
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niala1i  dont want to sleep in this bed!03:04
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MohammadAGis twitter a mess atm?03:08
ali1234looks about like it always does to me03:09
pupnikhttp://i.imgur.com/qQWHY.jpg03:09
JunJiI shouldn't click the youtube link :((((((((((03:09
CosmoHillJunJi: but they're cool :)03:11
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pupnikhttp://i.imgur.com/eTfsq.png03:11
niala1rts invent rap03:11
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niala1rats03:11
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CosmoHillokay I'm actually going now03:13
CosmoHillbye03:13
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kaushikhow to create .img files using kickstart? I am able to create .iso and .usbimg04:06
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pupniki find it really shitty that Obama thinks he can kill people like me04:11
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pupnikif Obama says that, then i have to defend myself04:13
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berndhsObama hasn't talked to me about you04:17
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JunJilol04:18
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pupnikobama has called for killing of american citizens without trial04:42
kaushik_Anyone did meego on Oaktrail?04:44
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niala1kaushik_: .img or .iso is not very important04:47
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niala1--format=livecd  even if it's for an usb stick04:48
kaushik_yeah I did livecd only04:49
kaushik_but it tells that please create a symlink /dev/root04:49
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niala1have you change url repo in kickstart ?04:50
pupnik"In late January, I wrote about the Obama administration's "presidential assassination program," whereby American citizens are targeted for killings far away from any battlefield, based exclusively on unchecked accusations by the Executive Branch that they're involved in Terrorism. " http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/04/07/assassinations04:50
pupnikwhy are we working with intel?04:50
niala11.1 or trunk image ?04:50
pupnikthey are part of a genocidal regime04:50
kaushik_btw ..i tried the to take image from repo.meego.com and it worked fine on my PC but its not working fine in my intel oaktrail boarf04:50
kaushik_trunk image and 1.1 both04:51
kaushik_I tried both04:51
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niala1ahh oaktrail boarf ? what is that?04:51
kaushik_that's intel's board very similar to moorestown in architecture04:52
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kaushik_so I am currently trying the moorestown to get working04:52
kaushik_I have moorestown hardware as well04:53
kaushik_Same case in moorestown ... repo.meego images also fails for moorestown hardware04:53
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bubbleis there a wubi like installer for meego05:22
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Jay_BEEhola05:41
befordnot at the momment bubble05:44
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bubbleso is it feasible to customise wubi for use with meego05:51
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bubbleactually I was tinkering with wubi 8.10, trying to compile it from source but there's an error in 'make' that says "GRUB requires a working absolute objcopy; upgrade your binutils". But my binutils are already latest version 2.20 .06:00
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kismeterhello, anybody have intel icdk07:16
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JunJigood morning08:01
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Termanagood morning Myrtti08:52
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tyson_morning...08:57
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tyson_hi all, how do you manage your source code? use git or svn or cvs? and so on..08:59
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JunJityson_: for meego?09:07
tyson_JunJi: yes..09:07
JunJityson_: I think people would like to use obs which is supporting cross compiling..09:09
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tyson_JunJi:  i use the obs compile the source code..and now i want to use git manage my source code. but i don't know the relationship of them..09:11
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JunJiJunJi: are you using the osc commands?09:11
JunJisorry, it was a stupid mistake :) I'm sleepy09:11
JunJityson_ : are you using the osc commadS?09:12
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tyson_JunJI: i think osc commands has some shortcomings..09:13
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JunJityson_: I thought it will be very similar to svn09:14
tyson_JunJI: and i know the bsgit command and obs-git command...but i don't know how to use them...i think they are better than osc command...09:14
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tyson_JunJi: if you writed some application program, you use the osc command manage them??   if you have many application programs...how to manage them? use osc?09:18
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Stskeepstyson_: one package per program -- generally you would develop your program, store in git, make releases (tar.gz) and then package in obs09:20
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tyson_Stskeeps: how to communicate "git" with "obs"?  i have no idea about this problem long time...09:23
Stskeepstyson_: well, there's this source services stuff, but you basically do some manual work09:23
seshuclDoes the 1.1 image install in the device have atom processor and Intel 4500 graphics accelerator?09:24
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Stskeepsseshucl: it's software, not a machine ;)09:24
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TermanaStskeeps, I don't know what you're talking about - I downloaded me a new dem dere sound card just the other day09:25
Termana:P09:25
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seshuclStskeeps: well, I'm trying to install the meego 1.1 on my netbook09:26
Stskeepsyou probably mean 'support' or require :)09:26
tyson_Stskeeps:  could you say some details about this? or give some website for me ? thanks...09:26
Stskeepstyson_: do you know how to package into spec?09:26
seshuclOne has intel 500 graphics accelerator and I was told the it is not supported and so i cannot install megoo on the system.09:27
Stskeepsah, gma 50009:27
Stskeepsyes, there's a problem with that09:27
seshuclwhat about 4500?09:27
Stskeepsthink that's different09:27
seshucldoes that also have the problem? my other system has that...09:27
seshuclbut it almost behaves as the earlier one...there is one instance where I saw the splash screen09:28
seshuclbut that did not stick.09:28
tyson_Stskeeps: oh, i don't know the mean "how to package into spec". sorry!~09:30
Stskeepstyson_: wiki.meego.com/Packaging/Tutorial :)09:30
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tyson_Stskeeps:  i did it, but didn't success....09:33
Stskeepswell, try harder :) it's possible to do09:33
Stskeepstime for me to work09:33
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tyson_Stskeeps:  OK, thanks... listen to you, i think this is very simple, but i also don't know how to communicate git with obs.  if i follow the website which you gave me succeed. i will ask you. please don't refuse me. thanks. Stskeeps.09:44
Stskeepsgood luck :)09:44
tyson_Stskeeps: good man... :)  working now..09:46
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sandst1tyson_: Having Git communicating with OBS in Meego is under progress, so the tools are not ready yet. See http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Infrastructure for more info09:53
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tyson_sandst1: ok, thanks. if i have some problems, i will ask you...thank you..10:03
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tyson_sandst1: do you know obs-git or bsgit command? i think they can communicate git with obs. yes or no?10:08
sandst1tyson_: yes, at least with the obs that opensuse is using, but haven't tried them with meego obs10:09
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tyson_sandst1:  does the opensuse obs  has difference with meego obs? i think they are same... and meego is just a project...10:16
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sandst1tyson_: there is an OBS instance for OpenSUSE and there's an OBS instance for MeeGo. they are based on the same software but are different servers10:21
Mekthere are even two OBS instances for MeeGo10:23
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tyson_sandst1: if the git didn't be used in meego, how intel and nokia manage source code(such as  the application programs) and devolpment application programs?10:30
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sandst1tyson_: Git is used in meego but the integration with OBS is not ready yet10:33
sandst1tyson_: see meego.gitorious.org10:33
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Stskeepstyson_: people do it manually :10:34
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tyson_sandst1, Stskeeps: OK, i got it. thank you.. best wish!~10:40
sandst1tyson_: np10:40
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tyson_sandst1: i login this meego channel first time,  i know Stskeeps, he teach me many knowledge, and this time, i know you.. i'm a fresh man for meego. but you are very patient teach me. I am very grateful to you. thank you.10:47
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sandst1tyson_: yup, that's what the channels are for :)10:53
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tyson_sandst1: OK, if i will be good at meego.. i will do it also...11:02
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kyb3Rhi11:05
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kyb3Rhmmm....how do I change from one app to another with keyboard shortcuts (netbook)11:06
kyb3Ralt + arrow takes me to textbased-ui :)11:07
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sandst1kyb3R: alt-tab ?11:08
kyb3Rsandst1: obviously :)11:08
kyb3Rthanks11:08
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tyson_sandst1: i'm off now. go home... see you..11:13
tyson_Stskeeps: i'm off now. go home... see you..11:13
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lbto/ all11:40
Stskeepsmorn lbt11:40
lbthey.... how's you?11:40
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Stskeepsi'm good, last work day of the year today11:41
Stskeeps:P11:41
lbtgood11:41
Trenkin:)11:41
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lbtI'm off over early new year period11:41
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JunJihello11:43
lbtmorning JunJi11:43
JunJigoodmorning11:44
X-FadeJunJi: your account should work now.11:44
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JunJiyes, I see now thanks :)11:44
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JunJiQuestion, is there any meego handset image which is compiled as armv5?11:46
JunJiso far, taking almost 2weeks I tried to install my own obs and finally got it. But this is really taking long long time...11:47
JunJithis is about my company project.. so really need it actually. lol..11:47
X-FadeJunJi: I suggest you join #meego-arm, the people there have more experience with the arm side of things.11:49
JunJiaha11:49
JunJithanks I'm going there11:49
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shivhi, is it possible to have the meego handset image boot using a virtual machine in windows ?16:42
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GAN900shiv, potentially with a lot of work.16:48
GAN900The acceleration requirement seems to make that rather more difficult than less, though.16:49
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tybollt<put on flame retardant pants> will there be java support? </flame pants>17:11
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mwichmannnot safe to take those off before people start the flaming :)17:11
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tybolltmwichmann: :)17:15
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jonnortybollt: what kind of "java support" are you looking for?17:17
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tybolltjonnor: ehr Iono what it is called to be perfectly honest but something mimicking what an S60 device can do today in terms of java17:28
tybolltbank/govt apps etc17:28
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berndhsI wouldn't trust a bank or government to run their software on my computer, java or not java :)17:31
jonnortybollt: I see no reasons why distributors of Meego products, or ISVs, would not be able to ship such support17:32
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tybolltjonnor: Out of the box for the handset arm edition, perhaps?17:33
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jonnortybollt: I see it as unlikely it will be a part of Meego core (or a profile)17:34
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tybolltjonnor: fair enough, ty17:35
jonnortybollt: Do note that this is my personal view, I have no influence over the projects direction :)17:36
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* arjan\ auto-packages cppcheck with autospectacle18:50
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Stskeepssounds like a cool tool, but it really needs a FEA# ;)18:50
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arjan\we have too much red tape in this project for simple things.18:52
Stskeepsoh, i agree18:52
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berndhsarjan\: file a bug to reducte the red tape18:52
arjana bug or a FEA ?18:52
Stskeepspersonally i wouldn't mind a 48 hour expected response rate on features18:52
arjanif the fscker takes 10 seconds to (auto) package18:52
Stskeepsarjan: FEA, according to http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Process#Package_quality_expectations_for_submissions_into_.2A:Testing_projects18:52
Stskeeps:P18:53
arjanI don't want to spend 4 hours dealingwith featurezilla crap18:53
Stskeepsneither does the rest of us :P18:53
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Stskeepsi wouldn't mind a proper meego extras though where we can dump nice utils into though18:54
lcukarjan, the inverse is that once its in it must be supported beyond that period18:54
Stskeepsok, time to go pick up some food18:55
lcukso the ppa style personal stuff is actuallly good for letting you test and get confident with it being required whilst sorting the rest of the release engineering with heavy backing from comfortable usage in your area18:55
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abstract3dwhat is the pass for api.meego.com ?19:11
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abstract3doh forget it wrong page :$19:12
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* CosmoHill is free from his assignments :D20:10
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ni1shey, anyone tried meego on a eee pc 90021:12
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lcukni1s, works on other eee pcs flawlessly21:16
lcuknot sure of specific models tho21:16
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Saziusni1s: I've tried it on EeePC 901, worked great on that23:01
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Saziusnot sure how much 900 and 901 differ though23:03
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Nitial900 is celeron, 901 atom23:08
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Saziusok, that might me significant23:20
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Saziusmight BE that is23:20
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