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| CosmoHill | no | 00:27 |
| kyb3R | :) | 00:28 |
| kyb3R | thanks for the invitation though | 00:28 |
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| txithihausen | kkkk it was just my mistake! :) i will put /_join #meego and I forgot the slash :) | 00:30 |
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| niala | it's quiet | 01:31 |
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| thebootroo_ | yes it is | 01:32 |
| CosmoHill | boobies | 01:32 |
| thebootroo_ | that's very funny, we are often the only geeks alive at these hours of the night | 01:32 |
| matrixx | at least in Finland, most of the people are either sleeping or having a party at saturdays | 01:33 |
| matrixx | at this time | 01:33 |
| ptl | or sleeping at a party | 01:35 |
| ptl | *in | 01:36 |
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| niala | helo thebootroo_ | 01:36 |
| thebootroo_ | niala: good evening / night | 01:36 |
| niala | matrixx: yes a party | 01:37 |
| niala | CosmoHill: yes sleeping | 01:37 |
| niala | sometines i sleep at party | 01:37 |
| CosmoHill | huh, that's not what I said | 01:37 |
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| halvors | When will the first handset with Meego be released? | 01:37 |
| CosmoHill | halvors: we don't know | 01:37 |
| niala | next year | 01:37 |
| CosmoHill | oh wait, yes niala is right | 01:38 |
| halvors | ok | 01:38 |
| ptl | which month? | 01:38 |
| lcuk | long weekend for Finns this week as I understand | 01:38 |
| niala | maybe next year in december | 01:38 |
| halvors | Nothing in december? | 01:38 |
| ptl | december??? oh, come on | 01:38 |
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| ptl | the N9 will be out in january or february, isn't it? | 01:38 |
| niala | nop halvors i don't think so... | 01:38 |
| halvors | Next year in december? | 01:39 |
| niala | ptl: sorry orry i don't know | 01:39 |
| niala | it was a joke don't believe me | 01:39 |
| lcuk | collaborative irc games would be awesome :) | 01:39 |
| lcuk | meego the MMORG | 01:39 |
| lcuk | RPG even | 01:39 |
| halvors | What you gays think it the best Meego phone i can buy when it is released? | 01:39 |
| piratephlox | Consumer Electronics in Las Vegas or MWC is probably the date we know it ;) | 01:39 |
| niala | lcuk: collaborative irc game? | 01:40 |
| niala | halvors: with no product yet it's difficult to know but n900 it's a good start.. | 01:41 |
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| niala | oh he s angry he have left | 01:42 |
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| matrixx | :( | 01:42 |
| CosmoHill | oh well | 01:43 |
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| CosmoHill | it's the vendors who annoce when meego will be in they're phone | 01:43 |
| niala | maybe never.... | 01:44 |
| * niala kick niala | 01:44 | |
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| Jay_BEE | [15:38]<niala>maybe next year in december <--- hehe | 01:47 |
| niala | thebootroo_: spreads is not in google.translate | 01:48 |
| niala | héhé | 01:48 |
| niala | Jay_BEE: waouh 15h38 the earth is big | 01:48 |
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| thebootroo_ | niala: i don't know i don't use Google translator | 01:49 |
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| thebootroo_ | niala: [FR] spreads = troisième personne du singulier sur le verbe to spread : disperser voire (dans mon cas) désintégrer | 01:50 |
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| niala | ohh thank you for the lesson :) | 01:50 |
| Jay_BEE | [15:38]<ptl>the N9 will be out in january or february, isn't it? <--- Nokia announced the N9?!? | 01:50 |
| * Jay_BEE goes to Nokia's website to find the press release | 01:50 | |
| thebootroo_ | niala: ur welcum | 01:50 |
| CosmoHill | I hate it when people shorted the word "come" | 01:52 |
| niala | thebootroo_: cum cum cum yourself!! :) | 01:52 |
| Jay_BEE | lol... typing n9 at nokiausa.com search box autocorrects to n900 | 01:52 |
| * CosmoHill wonders if niala knows what that word means | 01:52 | |
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| niala | maybe n900 is the best phone for 5 years again | 01:53 |
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| niala | CosmoHill: hey thebootroo_ has start. it's not me sir :) | 01:54 |
| piratephlox | hm, anybody thought about flashing the n8 with meego? | 01:54 |
| CosmoHill | you can't | 01:54 |
| CosmoHill | images have to be signed by nokia before you can flash the n8 | 01:54 |
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| piratephlox | urgs | 01:55 |
| CosmoHill | the boot loader won't let unsigned images be installed / booted | 01:55 |
| Jay_BEE | as expected, "0 search results for n9" | 01:58 |
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| niala | n9 battleship | 01:59 |
| niala | CosmoHill: you re still in irc stats ? | 02:01 |
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| CosmoHill | probably | 02:01 |
| CosmoHill | either that or I need to go on a killing spree | 02:01 |
| niala | and finish in Sun first page | 02:02 |
| CosmoHill | that's not a real news paper | 02:03 |
| niala | i dont know I only know it have a special central page | 02:04 |
| CosmoHill | niala: search "russel howard newspapers" | 02:04 |
| niala | CosmoHill: i understand nothing. he speak like a train. but i like his shoes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyOfUFEjuBA | 02:08 |
| niala | create a .spec from null is very boring | 02:09 |
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| CosmoHill | I have a template if you'd like | 02:10 |
| Termana | good morning | 02:10 |
| niala | good night Termana | 02:11 |
| niala | CosmoHill: yes i like | 02:11 |
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| CosmoHill | http://download.bluesquarelinux.co.uk/felix/SPECS/template.spec | 02:12 |
| niala | thank you CosmoHill. | 02:16 |
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| CosmoHill | you're welcome | 02:16 |
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| CosmoHill | niala: may I ask, what do you do for a living? | 02:22 |
| niala | network administrator/technician/etc but actually unemployed since 6month | 02:27 |
| niala | CosmoHill: | 02:27 |
| CosmoHill | aww | 02:27 |
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| niala | yes welcome crisis | 02:28 |
| CosmoHill | right, I'm gonna roll over and sleep | 02:28 |
| CosmoHill | cyas | 02:28 |
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| rpanwala | when do we see first meego device | 07:19 |
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| Termana | Thankfully he left before I had to answer him | 07:22 |
| theplic | lol | 07:22 |
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| Haro | Hi all , I would like to create a account for Meego OBS .. May i know procedure for that ??? | 08:11 |
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| Haro | Hi all , I would like to create a account for Meego OBS .. May i know procedure for that ??? | 08:12 |
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| berndhs | make an account on meego.com, and then ask lbt when he's awake | 08:15 |
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| Haro | berndhs : thank you | 08:15 |
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| theplic | whats OBS? | 09:22 |
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| Tili | can I not boot into meego using uboot? | 10:17 |
| Tili | i got uboot working already on n900 | 10:17 |
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| Stskeeps | you can boot the images from http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/meego-codedrop.php | 10:19 |
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| Tili | thanks | 10:23 |
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| Stskeeps | lo Meizirkki, how goes? | 11:15 |
| Meizirkki | Hey Stskeeps | 11:15 |
| Meizirkki | all well thanks | 11:15 |
| Meizirkki | How are you? | 11:16 |
| Stskeeps | i'm good, having a relaxing sunday :) | 11:17 |
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| Meizirkki | huh, it's been long since I was around here the last time... | 11:18 |
| Meizirkki | :) | 11:18 |
| Termana | morning Stskeeps and Meizirkki | 11:20 |
| Meizirkki | good morning Termana | 11:20 |
| andre__ | morn morn! | 11:20 |
| Termana | morning andre__ | 11:21 |
| Stskeeps | watching meego base packages build without cross compilation is about as much fun as watching wallpaper dry | 11:29 |
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| notabugs | hello, Can I download via torrent meego? | 11:30 |
| notabugs | version 1.1 | 11:31 |
| Stskeeps | no, but mirrors.kernel.org/meego/ might be faster for you | 11:31 |
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| notabugs | thanks | 11:34 |
| Meizirkki | Hmm, out of curiosity: Has someone looked at running Meego on ZTE Blade yet? | 11:36 |
| Meizirkki | It's very cheap phone.. too slow maybe? | 11:36 |
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| Stskeeps | is it hackable? | 11:37 |
| Meizirkki | I heard it is | 11:37 |
| Meizirkki | There are a bunch of custom android roms out there, but I can't find anything non-android | 11:38 |
| Meizirkki | *is | 11:38 |
| Meizirkki | Seems to be the same CPU the HTC legend has | 11:41 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 12:57 |
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| Stskeeps | morn jaffa | 12:58 |
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| sivang | hey ColKilkenny | 13:06 |
| sivang | ops :) | 13:07 |
| sivang | CosmoHill, et al | 13:07 |
| Stskeeps | morn sivang | 13:07 |
| sivang | anybody know of a good web collaboration suite ? like having a good docs sharing and sahred working, web mail , calendar, sync, etc? | 13:07 |
| sivang | hey Stskeeps , how's it going? | 13:07 |
| Stskeeps | it's going fine - sunny day here | 13:08 |
| sivang | Stskeeps: that's nice, although I wish we had some rain to take off this dreadful fire | 13:08 |
| sivang | well, we need a lot of rain, not jus tsome | 13:08 |
| sivang | *some | 13:08 |
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| thp | where do i report a segfault in QtMobility on MeeGo Netbook? bugs.meego.com or the Qt bugtracker or somewhere else? | 14:53 |
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| thp | nm, filed as http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10886 | 15:30 |
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| thiago_home | we're almost at the Dune years | 15:32 |
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| Stskeeps | thp: cool @ qml hildon widgets | 15:45 |
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| lcuk | thp if the bug occurs on meego, report it on bmc | 16:10 |
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| lcuk | thp, is this related to what we discussed the other day and did you try running it as root (because of the strange wanrings on your console output) | 16:25 |
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| thp | Stskeeps: it's much faster than "real" hildon widgets.. which is a shame (for hildon) :p | 16:29 |
| thp | lcuk: also segfaults when running with "sudo" | 16:30 |
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| thp | Stskeeps: and as this only requires the theme images, this would run on any qml-capable platform as well | 16:31 |
| Stskeeps | thp: wonder if it'd be useful as a backend to qt components | 16:34 |
| Stskeeps | to have those have a 'native' view on m5 | 16:34 |
| Stskeeps | i wonder if this in some way could be useful for bringing hildon apps to meego | 16:35 |
| lcuk | Stskeeps, no. | 16:36 |
| thp | i guess it's more useful for newly-written apps | 16:37 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 16:37 |
| lcuk | but you are right about native look on m5 | 16:37 |
| lcuk | thp, if someone were to start building qml apps using these | 16:37 |
| lcuk | will things get complex if they wanted to change the look/feel to switch between style/ux feeling | 16:38 |
| lcuk | or is this just a bit of fun proof of concept | 16:39 |
| Stskeeps | or the fact hildon is possible to remake in 200 lines of qml | 16:42 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:42 |
| Stskeeps | (basis) | 16:42 |
| thp | i've just done basic components (buttons, etc..) - these are pretty straightforward | 16:43 |
| thp | combo boxes, etc.. are most likely more complex | 16:43 |
| thp | but then, the example includes parts of the window manager as well - dialogs, ... | 16:44 |
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| thp | http://www.flickr.com/photos/thp4/5234681136/ | 16:48 |
| thp | what license does the hildon "alpha" theme have, btw? any chance to get it opened up? | 16:48 |
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| Stskeeps | closed, i think | 16:49 |
| Stskeeps | use any themes in extras that's based off hildon-theme-layout-5 instead, those are cc sa i think | 16:49 |
| lolloo | hey thp, this way better | 16:49 |
| lolloo | http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5206/5234681136_857b3564e6.jpg | 16:50 |
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| lolloo | by the what phone is that? | 16:50 |
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| thp | n8 | 16:51 |
| thp | Stskeeps: yep, one could use e.g. marina on non-maemo platforms and the currently selected theme on maemo | 16:53 |
| lolloo | thp, awesome | 16:53 |
| Jaffa | thp: That's very cool. | 16:54 |
| lolloo | thp, is it maemo? | 16:54 |
| thp | lolloo: symbian^3. on the photo it's running qmlviewer from qt 4.7 in fullscreen mode with the hildon-qml example loaded | 16:55 |
| lolloo | wow | 16:55 |
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| lolloo | Qt rulezzzz | 16:55 |
| lcuk | Stskeeps, if the qml can actually run hildon apps then its good, until then its an impressive mockup (great example of flexibility of qml) | 16:57 |
| thp | it's not meant to make existing hildon apps runnable on qml | 16:59 |
| thp | it's more like "when somebody wants to create a new app for their n900, they could use this, and it will work on all qml platforms, but still look "at home" on n900 | 16:59 |
| npm | thp -- is that the new gpodder using QML -- got source? [[ need to look/learn/copy from some significant application coding in QML for http://ytd-meego.googlecode.com ]] | 17:00 |
| thp | (the idea came when i was wondering whether or not qt quick components would provide a maemo 5 look and feel) | 17:00 |
| thp | npm: no, it's not the new gpodder qml ui. it's just a demo/mockup/example | 17:00 |
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| lcuk | thp, sure thing, what happens if the ui expects different interactions, for instance its not just the theme but the whole feel of the ui to fit in with platform | 17:01 |
| npm | what happens when you run the mockup/example on meego instead of maemo? | 17:01 |
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| thp | npm: http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5248/5234731634_947bbcb7df.jpg | 17:06 |
| thp | lcuk: what do you mean with "different interactions"? | 17:06 |
| lcuk | thp dialogs and stuff look/feel differently on different systems and even just differences between landscape/portrait | 17:07 |
| thp | lcuk: it's just one canvas, so i don't really care. | 17:07 |
| lolloo | awesome | 17:07 |
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| thp | lcuk: even on MTF, dialogs are not "real" dialogs anymore - just some visual things inside a single QGraphicsView | 17:08 |
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| thp | npm: "real" gpodder qml is not here yet. will look much different from the maemo 5 ui probably. | 17:11 |
| thp | npm: a very early demo with overused effects, but the real python backend: http://youtu.be/JuA0qRRpwHI | 17:11 |
| npm | thp: neat... looking forward to being able to use it | 17:12 |
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| sivang | thp: you created hildon qml theme? | 17:38 |
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| Stskeeps | how's QML like anyway with focus and so on (use cursor keys to move to elements) | 17:52 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 17:52 |
| thp | sivang: i didn't create the theme. just some qml components (gitorious.org/hildon-qml/demo) | 17:53 |
| thp | Stskeeps: there's focus support, but it has to be enabled manually i think | 17:54 |
| Stskeeps | i'm thinking that'd be useful for let's say meego tv or dumbphones :P | 17:54 |
| Stskeeps | (cursor movement, etc) | 17:54 |
| thp | Stskeeps: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/qdeclarativefocus.html | 17:55 |
| thp | Stskeeps: afaik dumbphones (at least from nokia) are probably going to have a touchscreen, anyway | 17:55 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 17:55 |
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| thp | for meego tv.. something like the wiimote maybe? ;) | 17:55 |
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| Stskeeps | that's my plan | 17:56 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:56 |
| Stskeeps | at least for my home project | 17:56 |
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| thp | Stskeeps: you just need a wiimote + bt + a "wireless sensor bar" (aka a piece of plastic, powered by batteries, with 2 ir leds on each side) | 17:57 |
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| Stskeeps | thp: yeah, i thought a wireless sensor bar | 17:57 |
| Stskeeps | thp: just didnt have time to find a seperate wiimote yet | 17:57 |
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| Stskeeps | er, bought | 17:58 |
| Stskeeps | man, my spelling engine is broken tonight :) | 17:58 |
| sivang | thp: nice, you're adding it to qt-components? | 17:59 |
| Stskeeps | thp: any good guides for pyside + qml yet? | 18:00 |
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| CosmoHill | growls* | 18:02 |
| thp | Stskeeps: lots! | 18:04 |
| thp | as in "9" | 18:04 |
| Stskeeps | hmm, i must not be looking enough then | 18:04 |
| thp | Stskeeps: http://developer.qt.nokia.com/wiki/PySideDocumentation | 18:04 |
| thp | "Application Component Tutorials" | 18:05 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 18:05 |
| thp | i've written them throughout the week to check out what works and what does not | 18:05 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | BTW, some discussion about Python support from MeeGo at http://tinyurl.com/37d4rq3 I hope that we can get the Community folks to support outreach to pythonistas, although I'm a bit busier figuring out why my Pandaboard doesn't recognize its display or create an eth0 device. | 18:05 |
| thp | Stskeeps: the qtmobility one is pretty nifty: http://youtu.be/DpVpSZSOcGM | 18:05 |
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| thp | Alison_Chaiken: i'll be giving a talk about pyside + qml at the pyugat meeting next sunday, let's see if there is some feedback then | 18:07 |
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| lcuk | thp, that pyside one looks similar to the beyond portrait vid :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z51-vCa0_Q&NR=1 | 18:10 |
| Alison_Chaiken | thp, we have a giant and active Python community here in SF. It's a big opportunity to get MeeGo talking to Python at May's meeting, but I haven't figured out how to make it happen. | 18:10 |
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| dnltea | cool vid ;-) | 18:12 |
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| berndhs | Alison_Chaiken: free beer, they wil start talking | 18:34 |
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| rumohr | hey there... one quetstion.. the hardware minimum to match me meego compliance is only given for Netbooks (1024x600-screen, keyboard, etc).. is there one for smartphones? | 18:51 |
| Alison_Chaiken | berndhs, too early for beer here, I'm having coffee and cereal. | 18:53 |
| berndhs | yeah :) | 18:53 |
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| berndhs | i mean of course, if they are local, consider starting in a social setting | 18:53 |
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| rumohr | aren't there hardware requirements for meego-compliance for smartphones? | 19:00 |
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| berndhs | rumohr: there will be, the compliance spec isn't finalized | 19:03 |
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| rumohr | ah, okay. thx... | 19:06 |
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| lcuk | Alison_Chaiken, since when is beer and cereal mutually incompatible? | 19:15 |
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| thp | lcuk: yes, like http://youtu.be/-hjh8Or9b2s | 19:24 |
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| * lcuk nods indeedy | 19:26 | |
| ali1234 | it's so laggy | 19:26 |
| ali1234 | what's the point of it? | 19:26 |
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| npm | thp: attempting to get your hildon-qml/demo -- "fatal: http://gitorious.org/hildon-qml/demo/info/refs not found: did you run git update-server-info on the server?" | 19:32 |
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| npm | never mind operator error | 19:33 |
| npm | dealing w/ too many rev control systems | 19:33 |
| thp | git clone http://git.gitorious.org/hildon-qml/demo.git :) | 19:34 |
| thp | npm: you also need to run it in a n900, as the artwork isn't included in the demo, but referenced from the system | 19:34 |
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| thp | (or copy the data and/or change the paths in hildon/hildon.js) | 19:34 |
| npm | n900 maemo or meego? | 19:34 |
| thp | maemo | 19:35 |
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| npm | can it run on meego too? | 19:36 |
| thp | npm: yes, copy /etc/hildon/theme/images/ and /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/hildon/ from a live maemo 5 system into meego | 19:37 |
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| berndhs | should there be a more prominent link to this page http://wiki.meego.com/Build_Infrastructure/Community_Builder/ITP ? | 19:46 |
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| * CosmoHill gives up with his assignments for now and goes to kill people on the PS3 | 19:54 | |
| lcuk | berndhs, sure | 19:54 |
| lcuk | i just updated the ITP page with the forum thread link also for package requests | 19:55 |
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| morci | hi | 19:56 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | lcuk, what kind of cereal goes with beer? I prefer hoppy beers, but have only ever had Miller Genuine Draft for breakfast, while water-skiing. I suppose a sweeter beer (a porter?) is okay. Meanwhile, framebuffer and network problems of meego on panda remained unsolved, although panda.ks is under careful scrutiny. | 20:39 |
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| lcuk | Alison_Chaiken, it doesnt matter what beer as long as the cereal floats and you can eat it with a spoon its a win | 20:55 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | lcuk, I did see several aMeegos coming into the hotel as I left for the airport on the morning after the conference at 3:30 AM. They must have been outing having breakfast. | 20:57 |
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| berndhs | Alison_Chaiken: they were already on their work schedule for their home timezone, no doubt | 21:06 |
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| Stskeeps | Alison_Chaiken: feel free to ask about panda/meego problems in #meego-arm as well :) | 21:15 |
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| lcuk | RevdKathy, i actually like the more friendly messages | 21:18 |
| RevdKathy | Really? It faintly creeped me out to hear the computer refer to itself as 'I' | 21:18 |
| RevdKathy | I like friendly messages but does it really have a sense of self? | 21:19 |
| w00t | I'm sorry Kathy, I'm afraid I can't do that | 21:19 |
| lcuk | well make a poll and suggest alternatives for that case | 21:19 |
| brik | haha, I thought it was amusing "I'm running out of battery, I'll be shutting down soon!" | 21:20 |
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| lcuk | "scanning for nearby electrical outlets" | 21:20 |
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| lcuk | "identified active biomass, preparing interface" | 21:20 |
| w00t | lcuk: let's hope they don't realise they can use humans as an energy source | 21:20 |
| w00t | (matrix here we come) | 21:20 |
| lcuk | w00t, its actually an area of tech that would be really practically useful for pacemakers etc | 21:21 |
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| w00t | sure | 21:21 |
| w00t | until they switch off if they don't like you and burst out of your chest and into someone else | 21:22 |
| w00t | :p | 21:22 |
| lcuk | o_O :D | 21:22 |
| RevdKathy | When it reaches the stage or Orac or Data, it can talk to me. ;) | 21:22 |
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| lcuk | RevdKathy, o_O orac sounds as miserable as marvin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoHkaFDTiD8 | 21:24 |
| RevdKathy | Orac wasn't so much miserable as irascible. And Data was lovely. ;) | 21:25 |
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| lcuk | holly was better | 21:26 |
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| Jay_BEE | howdy | 21:26 |
| RevdKathy | Point of view, that one, lcuk | 21:27 |
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| lcuk | did linux get ported to positronix matrix? | 21:28 |
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| RevdKathy | Dunno... Data was known to occasionally require a reboot. | 21:29 |
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| berndhs | is anyone using telepathy-qt4 ? | 21:47 |
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| thp | RevdKathy: the low battery message is a good example of bad ui strings / wording =) | 21:50 |
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| RevdKathy | lcuk likes it, apparently. I'm all for informal messages, but was uneasy about the computer refering to itself in the first person | 21:51 |
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| thp | other examples were given in sivang and timeless' talk, although i can't find the link right now | 21:51 |
| timeless_mbp | conference2010.meego.com/session/creating-first-choice-open-source-mobile-platform-learning-mistakes-past-and-beyond | 21:51 |
| thp | ..that was fast :) | 21:51 |
| timeless_mbp | urlbars are my friend | 21:51 |
| ali1234 | my files/your files was another example | 21:51 |
| timeless_mbp | but yeah the low battery warning in meego is supposedly impressive | 21:52 |
| timeless_mbp | i haven't seen it yet | 21:52 |
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| RevdKathy | It makes me think of Noel Coward.. I say Old chap, I've noticed your battery is running a tad low | 21:53 |
| thp | "Your pages" / "Me and my computer" (slides, pg. 34/35) | 21:53 |
| Cotueur | hello | 21:53 |
| ali1234 | i saw a whole manual written in the first person the other day "first i will plug in the computer..." etc | 21:53 |
| RevdKathy | I don't mind it addressing me as 'you'. But I never met one that referred to itself as 'i' before. | 21:54 |
| timeless_mbp | ali1234: AYIE | 21:54 |
| timeless_mbp | RevdKathy: i really object to conversations logs using 'you' instead of 'me' | 21:54 |
| Cotueur | Can I found some support for meego here ? (Sorry for my bad english ^^) | 21:54 |
| timeless_mbp | Cotueur: s/found/find/ | 21:54 |
| Cotueur | oups... I wrote a little too fast :) | 21:55 |
| timeless_mbp | Cotueur: it's ok | 21:56 |
| timeless_mbp | you indicated your English isn't perfect | 21:56 |
| timeless_mbp | i wasn't correcting as a complaint, merely a helping hand | 21:56 |
| Cotueur | ok, thank. But it's the good place for some help ? | 21:58 |
| Cotueur | Or it's just a chan for general purpose ? | 21:58 |
| RevdKathy | Depends what you're looking for :) | 21:58 |
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| Stskeeps | Cotueur: just ask :) | 21:59 |
| Cotueur | I have a little bug when I try to update Meego with the application | 21:59 |
| thp | Cotueur: which meego (netbook i presume?)? which application? | 22:00 |
| Cotueur | I try to traduct the message | 22:00 |
| Cotueur | yes Meego on MSI Wind | 22:00 |
| Cotueur | The message talk about a problem with a security "signature" | 22:02 |
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| Cotueur | So, then the update of list of software never finish | 22:03 |
| Cotueur | And I can't do any action on update soft | 22:03 |
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| timeless_mbp | Cotueur: are you using wifi? | 22:08 |
| Cotueur | Yes | 22:08 |
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| timeless_mbp | if you visit https://secure.google.com what happens? | 22:09 |
| timeless_mbp | hrm, not secure | 22:09 |
| timeless_mbp | https://encrypted.google.com/ | 22:09 |
| timeless_mbp | sorry :) | 22:10 |
| Cotueur | I can visit this page | 22:11 |
| timeless_mbp | hrm, ok | 22:11 |
| timeless_mbp | what version of meego netbook are you using? | 22:11 |
| Cotueur | good question... | 22:11 |
| Cotueur | the latest :) | 22:11 |
| Cotueur | 1.1 | 22:13 |
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| Cotueur | How can I see the number version ? | 22:15 |
| timeless_mbp | dunno | 22:18 |
| berndhs | Cotueur: cat /etc/meego-release | 22:18 |
| Cotueur | meego release 1.1 | 22:20 |
| Cotueur | BUILD: meego-netbook-ia32-1.1 | 22:21 |
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| rumohr | "MX Libraries" -> what does MX stand for? UX stands for "user experience", i suggest? | 22:30 |
| rumohr | it occurs in the wik article about MeeGo Architecture Layer View | 22:31 |
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| lcuk | rumohr, MX is Moblin user eXperience | 22:33 |
| lcuk | http://blogs.gnome.org/thos/2009/11/18/a-new-clutter-widget-toolkit/ | 22:33 |
| rumohr | ah, okay... | 22:34 |
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| Cotueur | erf | 22:35 |
| Cotueur | RTFM for me | 22:35 |
| Cotueur | I found this : http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=360 | 22:35 |
| lbt | haroun: pong | 22:36 |
| timeless_mbp | Cotueur: glad you found it | 22:37 |
| timeless_mbp | that sucks though | 22:37 |
| timeless_mbp | terrible ue, very sorry about it | 22:37 |
| timeless_mbp | it doesn't look like there's a useful intrastructure bug on file to avoid repeating that disaster | 22:37 |
| lbt | mmm infra bugs? | 22:38 |
| timeless_mbp | lbt: so.. | 22:38 |
| timeless_mbp | somewhere between 1.1 original and today, it looks like the repo cert changed | 22:38 |
| timeless_mbp | afaict | 22:38 |
| timeless_mbp | repo certs shouldn't be allowed to change w/o a process for updating deployed users | 22:39 |
| lbt | meego core ? | 22:39 |
| timeless_mbp | http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2562 | 22:39 |
| timeless_mbp | i wonder if it's actually better to endoflife a server and replace it w/ a new dns name | 22:39 |
| timeless_mbp | and have the old server merely have one package which updates the cert and path | 22:39 |
| lbt | ryan ware is the bod to ask | 22:40 |
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| timeless_mbp | does he appear on irc? | 22:40 |
| lbt | not sure | 22:40 |
| CosmoHill | there is a ryan on IRC but I don't know if he's your guy | 22:40 |
| X-Fade | CosmoHill: No, that is GeneralAntilles ;) | 22:41 |
| Cotueur | yes, instruction on the post works :) | 22:41 |
| CosmoHill | probably | 22:41 |
| X-Fade | CosmoHill: Well, I have met both of them and they are not the same :) | 22:42 |
| CosmoHill | that would be creepy if there were doubles, i mean they're from different parts of the world | 22:43 |
| X-Fade | CosmoHill: Not really. Both US based, which from our EU view is all the same. | 22:44 |
| haroun | lbt: I sent you an email.. Did u have a chance to look at it ? | 22:44 |
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| lbt | haroun: yes - you're enabled | 22:44 |
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| CosmoHill | ah fair enough | 22:44 |
| haroun | lbt: thanks | 22:44 |
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| npm | is there an image/repo for n900 that includes QtMobility 1.1, which seems to be the first version that supports camera ... http://code.google.com/p/ytd-meego/issues/detail?id=1#c3 | 22:53 |
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| npm | or is there an easy way to deliver a statically linked app containing qtmobility 1.1 onto a working n900/meego ? | 22:55 |
| npm | or... would installing qtmobility 1.1 over existing meego 1.1 handset image break anything? | 22:56 |
| thiago_home | it might, but it shouldn't break | 22:56 |
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| npm | i guess i could install mobility and qt 4.7.1 in a separate dir and use QTDIR and QTLIB env-vars when running my app? | 22:57 |
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| thiago_home | npm: LD_LIBRARY_PATH | 23:07 |
| thiago_home | QTDIR means nothing at all | 23:07 |
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| markinfo | Hallo. I have nokia n810. There is now os2008. But some programs are no more updated. I have found http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N8x0 "Boot into XFCE4 on N810 with working keyboard" it seems great because on desktop i user also XFE. But wenn it will be available? | 23:11 |
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| markinfo | Stskeeps, hi, you know probably? | 23:13 |
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| Stskeeps | markinfo: currently there are no armv5 builds for meego so project stalled a bit | 23:16 |
| markinfo | Stskeeps, will it be usable practically? due to CPU and RAM power? Runs it smooth enough? | 23:17 |
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| ali1234 | considering that it doesn't run "smooth" on an n900 i wouldn't get my hopes up | 23:21 |
| Stskeeps | markinfo: wasnt half bad on xfce :P handset ux def not | 23:21 |
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| markinfo | hm - I have installed XFCE on Celeron 366, 96MB RAM and 4GB HDD a few days ago and it was quite slow. But wenn was opened only one programm it was still usable. | 23:25 |
| ali1234 | the ram in a celeron would be super slow | 23:26 |
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| ali1234 | its not just about cpu speed | 23:26 |
| thiago_home | now try running something with OpenGL hardware acceleration | 23:26 |
| thiago_home | smooth 60fps animations | 23:26 |
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| ali1234 | 60 fps on meego? | 23:26 |
| thiago_home | yes | 23:27 |
| ali1234 | cool | 23:28 |
| ali1234 | it was never possible on maemo... | 23:28 |
| markinfo | the question is - will it be available sometime? I do not know what to do with my nokia n810 - if to keep it or not. | 23:31 |
| ali1234 | what is "it"? | 23:32 |
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| thiago_home | meego for n810? not really planned... | 23:32 |
| thiago_home | the server infrastructure is offline | 23:33 |
| Stskeeps | markinfo: only thing done is some hobbyists working on it but since meego.com doesnt build for the cpu arch in n8x0 its a bit hopeless | 23:33 |
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| Stskeeps | markinfo: a recompile is possible but if its worth it.. | 23:34 |
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| haroun | Need help. how to setup a standalone OBS setup for Meego ??? Can someone point me a exact procedure or Url ? | 23:36 |
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| markinfo | Stskeeps, is there some principal Problem that blocks it or is this a question of compilation only? | 23:38 |
| markinfo | i mean some problem with hardware. | 23:38 |
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| Stskeeps | markinfo: well, cant be meego compliant since we dont have glesv2 | 23:39 |
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| thiago_home | I think there are drivers for OMAP2 | 23:40 |
| thiago_home | it's an SGX anyway | 23:40 |
| Stskeeps | nop, MBX | 23:40 |
| Stskeeps | glesv1 | 23:40 |
| thiago_home | ah | 23:40 |
| thiago_home | useless then | 23:40 |
| ali1234 | markinfo: the problem is that meego is optimized for hardware that doesn't currently exist, anything you can buy today is too old | 23:41 |
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| markinfo | nokia n900 too? | 23:42 |
| ali1234 | yes, it runs like a dog | 23:42 |
| markinfo | hm - some dogs are running very fast - some very slow. | 23:42 |
| Stskeeps | ali1234: thats not really cos of whatever its optimized for, more like not optimized :P | 23:42 |
| ali1234 | it is | 23:43 |
| thiago_home | n900 is an OMAP3, it has GLESv2 | 23:43 |
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| ali1234 | meego is optimized for end to end 3d acceleration | 23:43 |
| Stskeeps | ali1234: new sgx drivers make a world of difference as well as the usual boosting tricks | 23:43 |
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| markinfo | hm - i see Nokia n900 can be buyed for 190€ .... i payed in spring for n810 150€ | 23:45 |
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| Stskeeps | anyhow, sleep time | 23:45 |
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| ali1234 | i must say that i find the rotation effect on handset quite comical | 23:48 |
| markinfo | will it be easyier/possible to have XFCE on nokia n900? | 23:48 |
| ali1234 | it rotates the display 90 degrees... but then it is the wrong aspect ratio to fit on the screen | 23:48 |
| thiago_home | markinfo: compile and run it | 23:48 |
| ali1234 | and then it just jumps to the new version | 23:48 |
| ali1234 | what is the point? just change it instantly | 23:49 |
| thiago_home | the effect you see must not be the final version then | 23:51 |
| ali1234 | what does the final version do? | 23:51 |
| thiago_home | can't tell you | 23:53 |
| ali1234 | heh | 23:53 |
| ali1234 | "something really good, honest" | 23:53 |
| ali1234 | i hope it does what symbian^3 does | 23:53 |
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