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| Sage | Stskeeps: after reboot the touchscreen started to work again... :/ | 00:48 |
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| fansy | morning | 02:36 |
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| fansy | Is anybody awake? | 02:37 |
| tyson_ | did anybody had experience of build ourself image? such as including your packages in a meego image... | 02:40 |
| tyson_ | good morning... | 02:40 |
| tyson_ | fansy, can you hear me? | 02:42 |
| fansy | tyson_: yes | 02:43 |
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| tyson_ | chinese? | 02:44 |
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| niala | tyson_: you mean your image with mic2 ? | 02:48 |
| tyson_ | yes,niala | 02:48 |
| tyson_ | can you help me ?niala | 02:48 |
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| niala | I m not sure, I m a simple user :) | 02:49 |
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| tyson_ | niala! me too. | 02:50 |
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| niala | tyson_: hwat is your problem | 02:51 |
| niala | *what | 02:52 |
| kismeter | anybody know about meego obs configration | 02:52 |
| araujo | kismeter, ask | 02:53 |
| niala | just ask and you see if you have an answer | 02:53 |
| wintige | anyone has built armv7l rpm with src.rpm ? | 02:53 |
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| tyson_ | niala! some errors arise,like this: IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/cache/meego-bootstrap/tmp/SampleMedia.tar' | 02:53 |
| niala | tyson_: error in downloading package? disk full? | 02:55 |
| kismeter | araujo:I setup a local obs and import meego 1.1, set the configration as http://wiki.meego.com/User:Stskeeps/10_easy_steps_to_a_local_OBS said | 02:55 |
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| niala | tyson_: ls /var/cache/meego-bootstrap/tmp/SampleMedia.tar repertory exist? empty ? | 02:56 |
| kismeter | araujo:the config get from git clone http://git.gitorious.org/meego-developer-tools/obs-project-config.git but when I build package, it says bad build configration | 02:57 |
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| tyson_ | niala! the directory /var/cache/meego-bootstrap has not the tmp/..and my disk has 7.3G free space. | 02:59 |
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| tyson_ | niala: maybe my .ks file has some problems...did you write your .ks file before you did this topic? | 03:03 |
| niala | tyson_: mmm Error creating image.... maybe you have other problem with your .ks or with mic2 | 03:04 |
| niala | lol i haven't read | 03:04 |
| wintige | when I use the same conmmands to build a rpm package with src.rpm as http://wiki.meego.com/Local_Build_Without_OBS_Needed, success to build a i586 rpm package,but fail to build a armv7l rpm,anyone know the reason? | 03:04 |
| niala | yes my ks file is good | 03:04 |
| kismeter | Stskeeps: online? | 03:05 |
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| jonnor | wintige: not without you showing us the errors | 03:07 |
| jonnor | wintige: preferably the entire build log | 03:08 |
| niala | tyson_: search a more explicit error. you see pakcage downloading when you create your image ? | 03:08 |
| wintige | jonnor: chroot: failed to run command 'rpm ': Exec format error | 03:09 |
| jonnor | wintige: in what context? | 03:09 |
| jonnor | just pastebin the entire build log | 03:09 |
| tyson_ | niala: the option --baseurl of the .ks file . i write it like this --baseurl=file:///home/administrator/myrepo. have some problems? | 03:09 |
| wintige | jonnor: and I work in the fedora | 03:09 |
| kismeter | hello, I setup a local host as the wiki said, when build an additional package, the build result is unresolvable, said nothing provides binutils, nothing provides gcc45, nothing provides glibc, nothing provides bzip2, nothing provides gzip, nothing provides libdb-4_5, nothing provides gdbm, nothing provides libzio, nothing provides ncurses, nothing provides perl-base, nothing provides rpm, nothing provides zlib, nothing provides aa | 03:11 |
| wintige | jonnor: those imformation :processing specfile /var/tmp/build-root/.build-srcdir/cpio.spec ... init_buildsystem --cachedir /var/cache/build --repository http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.0/core/repos/armv7l/packages/ /var/tmp/build-root/.build-srcdir/cpio.spec ... It seems that there was an incomplete setup of /var/tmp/build-root. To be sure, we will build it again completely... Your build system is broken!! Shall I execute | 03:12 |
| tyson_ | niala: i used this command: sudo mic-image-creator --config=/home/administrator/meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.1.80.7.20101119.1.ks --format=arm --mainrepo=myrepo | 03:12 |
| niala | tyson_: I don't if it's right or not but why 3/ --baseurl=file:/// | 03:12 |
| jonnor | wintige: so you are using the "build" tool?? | 03:13 |
| jonnor | wintige: are you sure it supports cross-compiling? | 03:13 |
| niala | tyson_: did you use ' createrepo ' ? | 03:14 |
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| tyson_ | niala: yes . i used this command to create my repo. | 03:14 |
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| david_ | tyson hello | 03:15 |
| wintige | jonnor:but I can build the i386 rpm ,do it show supporting cross-compiling? | 03:15 |
| wintige | jonnor:i586 | 03:16 |
| jonnor | wintige: i386 does not require cross-compiling, since I assume you are on a x86 machine | 03:16 |
| niala | tyson_: an without your repo image creation works ? | 03:16 |
| wintige | jonnor:yes | 03:16 |
| kismeter | david_:any ideas about obs? | 03:16 |
| wintige | jonnor:thanks ,I will try | 03:17 |
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| tyson_ | niala: yes. and the 3/ --baseurl=file:/// , about this, i writed it like this 3/ --baseurl=/home/administrator/myrepo. some errors arised. so i write it --baseurl=file:/// | 03:19 |
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| tyson_ | niala: yes. and the 3/ --baseurl=file:/// , about this, i writed it like this: --baseurl=/home/administrator/myrepo. some errors arised. so i write it --baseurl=file:/// | 03:22 |
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| niala | tyson_: I mean you are right with /// | 03:29 |
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| tyson_ | niala: what's your ks file about some important option? such as --baseurl. and so on. i want to see your ks file....maybe it can help me. | 03:33 |
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| niala | tyson_: nothing special not my own repo.. http://pastebin.com/z0TsFNDu | 03:42 |
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| wintige | Jonnor:online? I am trying to build a acorss-copile , and i have some question about "build" tool | 03:44 |
| wintige | jonnor:online? I am trying to build a acorss-copile , and i have some question about "build" tool | 03:45 |
| jonnor | wintige: I'm off to bed, but just ask, others might know the answer or help you find it | 03:46 |
| tyson_ | niala: thank you. and could you tell me your email? maybe next time i need ask you by email. | 03:46 |
| kismeter | rpm: error while loading shared libraries: liblua-5.1.so: cannot open shared object file:No such file or directory | 03:46 |
| wintige | jonnor:ok , "build" do not to find the tools to compile from the net | 03:47 |
| wintige | jonnor:it use the compile tools from the local host? | 03:48 |
| niala | tyson_: you can try http://meego.com/community/mailing-lists | 03:48 |
| niala | tyson_: some guru will help you | 03:49 |
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| wintige | jonnor: and I want to know ,"build" tools I loaded contain config file to meego1.0, where i can find "build" tools to meego1.1? | 03:52 |
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| niala | hello lcuk_idea, question: ideapad touchscreen have 1finger or more active? touchscreen have right/midle clic ? | 03:58 |
| lcuk_idea | niala, on the wiki i believe theres instructions for enabling the other buttons | 03:59 |
| niala | ok I search | 04:00 |
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| niala | synclient RBCornerButton=3 don't work for asus t101m | 04:10 |
| lcuk_idea | niala, you mentioned about the ideapad | 04:11 |
| lcuk_idea | perhaps a similar option will work | 04:11 |
| lcuk_idea | but did you try clicking the other side of the touchscreen | 04:12 |
| lcuk_idea | i believe some systems have that mapped to rmb | 04:12 |
| niala | yes yes I mentioned ideapad because I know they is a lot of work on it | 04:12 |
| wintige | anyone know "build" tools | 04:14 |
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| niala | lcuk_idea: can you please do for me an 'synclient -l' for me and pastebin http://pastebin.com/P3ds6Ga6 | 04:17 |
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| niala | from ideapad of course | 04:17 |
| lcuk_idea | not tonight i cant niala - but with 1000 people having ideapads someone can | 04:19 |
| ali1234 | niala: the touchscreen has two finger support | 04:20 |
| ali1234 | but afaik it is up to software to do stuff like rmb with it | 04:20 |
| niala | why why why why I did not dare go to conf.. :/ | 04:21 |
| ali1234 | funny story: i just reinstalled windows on my ideapad so i can install nokia qt sdk for windows so i can develop qt apps for symbian | 04:22 |
| lcuk_idea | ali1234, nokia sdk did not work on meego? | 04:23 |
| niala | ali1234: it's a crime :) | 04:23 |
| lcuk_idea | niala, i did anyway for you since i ended up flicking around http://pastebin.com/Z7qRj3Sj | 04:24 |
| lcuk_idea | in return: wanted: vnc client | 04:24 |
| ali1234 | lcuk_idea: there's no symbian compile for liux | 04:26 |
| lcuk_idea | ali1234, what did you use before last week to build symbian apps? | 04:27 |
| ali1234 | i didn't | 04:27 |
| ali1234 | i just developed for desktop | 04:27 |
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| niala | same synclient -l | 04:28 |
| ali1234 | actually there is a symbian compiler for linux but setting it up is too hard | 04:28 |
| ali1234 | amusingly enough, NOTHING works ootb with a vanilla win7 install on the ideapad | 04:29 |
| ali1234 | not even ethernet | 04:29 |
| Alison_Chaiken | niala, come to the San Francisco conference in May. There will be less rain than in Dublin but still lots of fine beers. | 04:29 |
| ali1234 | but even setting all that up was easier than trying to figure out the symbian on linux stuff :/ | 04:30 |
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| ali1234 | wow, win7 really likes to reboot a lot | 04:31 |
| beford | during installation yea | 04:31 |
| beford | like 3 times | 04:31 |
| ali1234 | nokia pc suite made me reboot twice in a row | 04:31 |
| ali1234 | and then csc.exe crashed | 04:31 |
| ali1234 | gotta love windows | 04:31 |
| ali1234 | i had to reboot after installing each driver too, that's like 10 reboots | 04:32 |
| berndhs | ali1234: you can tell your grandkids about the excitement of your touth, rebooting Windows | 04:32 |
| berndhs | s/touth/youth/ | 04:32 |
| infobot | berndhs meant: ali1234: you can tell your grandkids about the excitement of your youth, rebooting Windows | 04:32 |
| niala | Alison_Chaiken: :) Unfortunately it is a bit far . But may is far to, so maybe if my minister of finance is agree | 04:34 |
| niala | san francisco for holliday is not bad :) | 04:34 |
| ali1234 | btw, i checked the windows drivers, confirmed that it's the same accelerometer as in thinkpads | 04:35 |
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| niala | cat /proc/bus/usb/devices | 04:46 |
| niala | sorry | 04:46 |
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| ali1234 | great, it doesn't work anyway | 05:29 |
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| ali1234 | FINALLY | 05:57 |
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| ali1234 | this is pretty nifty... i bet the animated tiles example isn't this smooth on maemo | 05:58 |
| pupnik | what what | 05:59 |
| pupnik | what did you get working ali1234 | 05:59 |
| ali1234 | qt creator and c7 | 06:00 |
| ali1234 | and this demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEVrwYAAUvU | 06:00 |
| ali1234 | it's a lot smoother on the c7 than in that video | 06:00 |
| ali1234 | btw, if you ever develop for symbian, reboot your phone after installing trk or it won't work | 06:01 |
| ali1234 | the instructions do not mention this anywhere | 06:01 |
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| ali1234 | hmm this makes me want to install qt examples on the n900 just to compare | 06:02 |
| pupnik | how do you like c7 otherwise? | 06:02 |
| ali1234 | i love the c7 | 06:02 |
| ali1234 | best phone i ever had | 06:03 |
| ali1234 | it's the only phone i have seen that can sync my ggogle mail, calendar, and contacts without failing spectacularly | 06:04 |
| pupnik | nice | 06:04 |
| ali1234 | admittedly i never tried an android phone | 06:04 |
| pupnik | an e71 seems nice | 06:04 |
| pupnik | i like how symbian uses small screens | 06:04 |
| ali1234 | there is no need for super high res on such a tiny screen | 06:05 |
| pupnik | yes | 06:05 |
| ali1234 | it just needs more processing power to push pixels | 06:05 |
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| pupnik | a pandora has the proper battery for portable surfing | 06:05 |
| pupnik | "the germans have to pay one way or another" | 06:05 |
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| pupnik | lol | 06:06 |
| pupnik | this money debate in eu is too much :) | 06:06 |
| ali1234 | i'd rather have 360x640 and perfect 60fps all the time, than high res and slow jerky animations | 06:06 |
| ali1234 | the C7 battery lasts like 3 days with all the widgets going and email syncing over MfE | 06:07 |
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| ali1234 | and i don't miss the n900 resistive screen and keyboard at all, in fact i find them a pain to use now | 06:08 |
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| wmarone | does the C7's OSK have arrow keys at least? | 06:08 |
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| ali1234 | it has left and right | 06:09 |
| wmarone | huh | 06:09 |
| ali1234 | why would you want arrow keys? | 06:09 |
| wmarone | because using a capacitive screen to edit an e-mail is hell | 06:09 |
| wmarone | I tried doing it on an iPhone, drove me up a wall | 06:09 |
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| ali1234 | it's fine. try to get to the point when sending emails from phone :) | 06:09 |
| ali1234 | the OSK basically fills the whole screen anyway, but you can just press to move to another part of the text | 06:10 |
| wmarone | I'll ignore the ridiculous sentiment, and just say that even correcting a typo was impossible without erasing the entire word and starting over | 06:11 |
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| ali1234 | i have had a couple of problems with typos interacting with the auto corrector | 06:11 |
| wmarone | left and right arrow keys would have helped, at the very least :) | 06:11 |
| ali1234 | like, typo a word, auto correct fixes it wrong, now you have to erase the whole word instead of just 1 character | 06:12 |
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| ali1234 | i mostly use it for reading emails anyway, if i want to send a loooooong email i'll set down somewhere and get the netbook out | 06:13 |
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| wintige | when I use "build" to create a armv7l rpm with src.rpm on fedora 13 ,get this error:chroot: failed to run command `rpm': Exec format error | 07:22 |
| wintige | anybody know it | 07:22 |
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| wintige | and the same commands on ubuntu10.04, it didn't | 07:24 |
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| dotblank | I can't seem to use the meego sdk's mad tool to install a maemo target | 08:01 |
| dotblank | I'd like to do both | 08:01 |
| dotblank | fremantle-1030 (installable) | 08:01 |
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| dotblank | When I try to install/create it says it cannot fetch the image | 08:01 |
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| dotblank | fremantle-arm-sysroot-1030-slim.tar.gz' -- no such file. | 08:02 |
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| wintige | when I use "build" to create a armv7l rpm with src.rpm on fedora 13 ,get this error:chroot: failed to run command `rpm': Exec format error and the same commands on ubuntu10.04, it didn't anybody know it | 08:53 |
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| wintige | when I use "build" to create a armv7l rpm with src.rpm on fedora 13 ,get this error:chroot: failed to run command `rpm': Exec format error and the same commands on ubuntu10.04,it didn't ,anybody know it | 09:48 |
| wintige | when I use "build" to create a armv7l rpm with src.rpm on fedora 13 ,get this error:chroot: failed to run command `rpm': Exec format error and the same commands on ubuntu10.04,it didn't anybody know it | 09:49 |
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| pupnik | wintige: http://wiki.meego.com/Developing_in_a_MeeGo_Environment wintige | 10:01 |
| pupnik | http://wiki.meego.com/Developing_in_a_MeeGo_Environment#Exec_format_error | 10:01 |
| pupnik | does that fix your problem? | 10:01 |
| wintige | pupnik: yes, but I can not find this file(qemu-binfmt-misc.sh) anyway. | 10:02 |
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| wintige | pupnik: and I do not know whether it can do | 10:04 |
| pupnik | i don't know either | 10:06 |
| pupnik | maybe someone else knows | 10:06 |
| wintige | hope someone | 10:06 |
| pupnik | wintige: "which rpm" | 10:08 |
| pupnik | you have rpm command installed? | 10:08 |
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| wintige | every armv7l rpms I tried | 10:08 |
| wintige | pupnik: may be most of them | 10:09 |
| pupnik | did you pass --arch=armv7l to meego-image-creator ? | 10:09 |
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| wintige | pupnik: no ,I just want to build a rpm package with src.rpm file | 10:10 |
| pupnik | oh i get it | 10:10 |
| pupnik | would need to look at that build script | 10:11 |
| wintige | pupnik: yes ,I saw it , but I could no t find why | 10:12 |
| wintige | pupnik: i changed something in it ,and it can work on ubuntu10.04 normal | 10:13 |
| wintige | pupnik: still the same problem under dedora13 | 10:14 |
| pupnik | i might say screw it and use .pnd pckages | 10:16 |
| wintige | pupnik: what's mean? | 10:17 |
| Stskeeps | wintige: rpm -q -a | grep qemu | 10:17 |
| pupnik | http://pandorawiki.org/PND:FAQ | 10:17 |
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| wintige | Stskeeps: display : qemu-user-0.12.5-1.fc13.i686 qemu-system-sparc-0.12.5-1.fc13.i686 qemu-system-ppc-0.12.5-1.fc13.i686 qemu-system-mips-0.12.5-1.fc13.i686 meego-qemu-ia32-3-1.1.i386 qemu-img-0.12.5-1.fc13.i686 qemu-0.12.5-1.fc13.i686 qemu-arm-0.12.50+git18+71af3b1-1.2.i386 qemu-system-x86-0.12.5-1.fc13.i686 qemu-system-arm-0.12.5-1.fc13.i686 qemu-common-0.12.5-1.fc13.i686 qemu-system-cris-0.12.5-1.fc13.i686 qemu-kvm-tools-0.12.5-1.f | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | could you rpm -ql qemu-user ? | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | and pastie.org it | 10:19 |
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| wintige | Stskeeps:rpm -ql qemu-user :/etc/rc.d/init.d/qemu /usr/bin/qemu-alpha /usr/bin/qemu-arm /usr/bin/qemu-armeb /usr/bin/qemu-cris /usr/bin/qemu-i386 /usr/bin/qemu-m68k /usr/bin/qemu-mips /usr/bin/qemu-mipsel /usr/bin/qemu-ppc /usr/bin/qemu-ppc64 /usr/bin/qemu-ppc64abi32 /usr/bin/qemu-sh4 /usr/bin/qemu-sh4eb /usr/bin/qemu-sparc /usr/bin/qemu-sparc32plus /usr/bin/qemu-sparc64 /usr/bin/qemu-x86_64 | 10:21 |
| Stskeeps | looks ok, could you /etc/rc.d/init.d/qemu start and try again? | 10:21 |
| wintige | Stskeeps: I will try | 10:23 |
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| wintige | Stskeeps: no change | 10:27 |
| Stskeeps | wintige: hmm, curious - could you pastie.org the contents of /etc/rc.d/init.d/qemu ? | 10:28 |
| pupnik | that means not paste to the channel, but to http://pastie.org | 10:29 |
| wintige | Stskeeps: I am sorry that I can not go to http://pastie.org because of network.. | 10:32 |
| Stskeeps | ah, how about pastebin.mozilla.org ? | 10:32 |
| wintige | yes | 10:33 |
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| wintige | you mean I paste the result of command :/etc/rc.d/init.d/qemu to the web? | 10:35 |
| wintige | Stskeeps:ok, i have sent it | 10:38 |
| wintige | Stskeeps:http://pastebin.mozilla.org/867467 | 10:38 |
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| Stskeeps | that should really set it up correctly | 10:50 |
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| Stskeeps | alternatively consider http://wiki.meego.com/User:Stskeeps/10_easy_steps_to_a_local_OBS | 10:51 |
| pupnik | ooo | 10:51 |
| pupnik | thank you wonderful draft | 10:53 |
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| wintige | it seems helpful ,but now I want to build the rpm without obs. | 10:53 |
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| Fansy | Stskeeps: Good afternoon Stskeeps | 10:54 |
| Stskeeps | wintige: does /usr/bin/qemu-arm exist inside the chroot 'build' makes? | 10:54 |
| Fansy | Stskeeps: Did you ever meet a database issue when you delete an account with your API port on your local OBS? | 10:54 |
| Stskeeps | morning Fansy | 10:54 |
| Stskeeps | Fansy: hmm no | 10:54 |
| Stskeeps | Fansy: never had to delete one :) | 10:54 |
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| Fansy | Stskeeps: It says "You sent an invalid request!" and failed to delete the user. | 10:55 |
| Stskeeps | Fansy: interesting | 10:55 |
| Stskeeps | Fansy: any specific db error? | 10:56 |
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| wintige | Stskeeps:/var/tmp/build-root/usr/bin/qemu-arm exist | 10:57 |
| Stskeeps | wintige: i don't have a good idea right now, - maybe SELinux is enabled? | 10:58 |
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| tyson_ | Stskeeps: hello, do you have some experience of including your own package to build a meego image? thank you!~ | 11:02 |
| Stskeeps | tyson_: it's easy - grab a .ks of your image, add the repository with 'repo' command and add your package in %packages section, run mic-image-creator :) | 11:03 |
| wintige | thank you , find out anyway | 11:03 |
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| wintige | anybody know about local build rpm without obs | 11:13 |
| Stskeeps | wintige: could you ls -l /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc ? | 11:14 |
| Stskeeps | and paste it on pastebin.mozilla.org | 11:14 |
| tyson_ | Stskeeps: yes, the process of including our package to build a meego image is easy..but some errors arise.. | 11:14 |
| Stskeeps | tyson_: could you paste your errors on pastebin.mozilla.org please? | 11:14 |
| wintige | ok | 11:14 |
| Stskeeps | tyson_: is it ARM or X86 imag? | 11:15 |
| Stskeeps | e | 11:15 |
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| tyson_ | Stskeeps: i want to bulid ARM image. because i need it flash to N900 | 11:15 |
| wintige | http://pastebin.mozilla.org/867484 | 11:16 |
| Stskeeps | wintige: yeah, that's probably why then. hmm | 11:16 |
| Stskeeps | wintige: did you run '/etc/rc.d/init.d/qemu start' as root? | 11:17 |
| Stskeeps | tyson_: ok - let me see the errors then :) | 11:17 |
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| Stskeeps | and please include your full mic-image-creator line | 11:17 |
| wintige | yes | 11:17 |
| Stskeeps | wintige: could you run '/etc/rc.d/init.d/qemu status' ? | 11:18 |
| tyson_ | Stskeeps: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/867485 | 11:19 |
| wintige | Stskeeps:qemu binary format handlers are not registered | 11:19 |
| wintige | seems bad | 11:19 |
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| Stskeeps | wintige: and '/etc/rc.d/init.d/qemu start' output? | 11:20 |
| Stskeeps | tyson_: ah, i see | 11:20 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 11:20 |
| wintige | Stskeeps:Registering binary handler for qemu applications | 11:20 |
| Stskeeps | wintige: any errors? | 11:21 |
| wintige | no . | 11:21 |
| Stskeeps | tyson_: follow http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Creating_ARM_image_using_MeeGo_Image_Creator , " Run MeeGo Image Creator " section and try to generate an image without your repo first | 11:21 |
| Stskeeps | wintige: manually do this: | 11:21 |
| Stskeeps | wintige: echo ":qemu-arm:M::\x7fELF\x01\x01\x01\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x02\x00\x28\x00:\xff\xff\xff\xff\xff\xff\xff\x00\xff\xff\xff\xff\xff\xff\xff\xff\xfa\xff\xff\xff:$QEMU/qemu-arm:" > /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/register | 11:21 |
| Stskeeps | errr | 11:22 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 11:22 |
| Stskeeps | wintige: echo ":qemu-arm:M::\x7fELF\x01\x01\x01\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x02\x00\x28\x00:\xff\xff\xff\xff\xff\xff\xff\x00\xff\xff\xff\xff\xff\xff\xff\xff\xfa\xff\xff\xff:/usr/bin/qemu-arm:" > /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/register | 11:22 |
| Stskeeps | that instead | 11:22 |
| Stskeeps | tyson_: when you successfully compile a 'raw' image, i will tell you how to make your own repo work - you're on the right path | 11:22 |
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| tyson_ | Stskeeps: i already did it.... | 11:23 |
| Stskeeps | tyson_: i didn't see any --arch=armv7l line in your paste, so you didnt do it well enough :) | 11:23 |
| tyson_ | Stskeeps: follow http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Creating_ARM_image_using_MeeGo_Image_Creator , i did it succeed. | 11:25 |
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| tyson_ | Stskeeps: i used this command:mic-image-creator --config=/home/administrator/Downloads/meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.1.80.7.20101119.1.ks --format=raw --cache=/home/administrator/Downloads/mycache --arch=armv7l --run-mode=0 --save-kernel | 11:27 |
| wintige | Stskeeps:you mean echo ":qemu-arm:M::\x7fELF\x01\x01\x01\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x02\x00\x28\x00:\xff\xff\xff\xff\xff\xff\xff\x00\xff\xff\xff\xff\xff\xff\xff\xff\xfa\xff\xff\xff:/usr/bin/qemu-arm:" > /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/register | 11:29 |
| tyson_ | Stskeeps: and succeed.. the output is:Running scripts Your new image can be found here: /home/administrator/meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.1.80.7.20101119.1-1.1.20101125.0854-raw/meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.1.80.7.20101119.1-1.1.20101125.0854-mmcblk0p.raw /home/administrator/meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.1.80.7.20101119.1-1.1.20101125.0854-raw/meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.1.80.7.20101119.1-1.1.20101125.0854.xml /home/administrator/meego-hands | 11:29 |
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| wintige | Stskeeps:after that ,i tried again, and get the error. | 11:31 |
| wintige | Stskeeps:after that ,i tried again, and get the same error. | 11:31 |
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| tyson_ | Stskeeps: i add the option --arch=armv7l this time. and the command like this:sudo mic-image-creator --config=/home/administrator/my.ks --format=raw --mainrepo=myrepo --run-mode=0 --arch=armv7l | 11:37 |
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| tyson_ | Stskeeps: the errors arise..like this : Error: Given arch 'armv7l' is not found from the repositories. | 11:38 |
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| Stskeeps | tyson_: ok, so, copy your meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.1.80.7.20101119.1.ks to 'my.ks' .. there is lines with 'repo' in them, add another line like repo --name=myrepo --baseurl=file:///home/administrator/myrepo ,, and in %packages , add your package and now run mic-image-creator --config=my.ks --format=raw --cache=/home/administrator/Downloads/mycache --arch=armv7l --run-mode=0 --save-kernel | 11:41 |
| Stskeeps | you shouldn't use --mainrepo | 11:42 |
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| Stskeeps | wintige: ls -l /usr/bin/qemu-arm | 11:44 |
| wintige | Stskeeps:/etc/rc.d/init.d/qemu status :qemu binary format handlers are registered. but still not work | 11:44 |
| wintige | -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 810892 Aug 12 22:36 /usr/bin/qemu-arm | 11:45 |
| Stskeeps | wintige: 'selinuxenabled || echo "not enabled"' gives what output? | 11:46 |
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| wintige | Stskeeps:'selinuxenabled || echo "not enabled"' bash: selinuxenabled || echo "not enabled": command not found | 11:48 |
| Stskeeps | wintige: without the quotes :) | 11:48 |
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| kPb_in | hello all | 11:50 |
| wintige | Stskeeps: selinuxenabled || echo "not enabled" no output. | 11:51 |
| Stskeeps | wintige: setenforce 0 | 11:51 |
| Stskeeps | and try now | 11:51 |
| kPb_in | I am trying to dual boot meego on n900.. I followed all the instructions given in http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/MMC#Installing_Rootfs_on_external_MMC_card | 11:51 |
| kPb_in | but I get error boot.scr not found.. | 11:51 |
| tyson_ | Stskeeps: i want to use the meego's package as my repo. so i download them to my repo. if do this succeed, i will add my packages to my repo. | 11:52 |
| wintige | Stskeeps: what'mean? | 11:52 |
| Stskeeps | wintige: means 'disable selinux' | 11:52 |
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| Stskeeps | tyson_: you want to add on top of the meego image, right | 11:53 |
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| Stskeeps | mainrepo should almost never be used | 11:53 |
| wintige | Stskeeps: and try again? | 11:53 |
| Stskeeps | wintige: yes | 11:54 |
| wintige | Stskeeps: chroot: failed to run command `rpm': No such file or directory | 11:55 |
| Stskeeps | wintige: show me your 'build' command please | 11:55 |
| Stskeeps | and 'file /usr/bin/qemu-arm' | 11:55 |
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| wintige | build --repository http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.0/core/repos/armv7l/packages/ --arch armv7l cpio-2.11-1.2.src.rpm | 11:56 |
| tyson_ | Stskeeps: OK..thank you very much...and one question: i use the QT tool generate the package..such as helloworld application.. should i do this can build meego image succeed. because i don't know what styles of package can add to my repo. | 11:56 |
| Stskeeps | tyson_: you can add anything you like | 11:57 |
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| Stskeeps | tyson_: as long as they're rpm packages, naturally ;) | 11:58 |
| wintige | Stskeeps: seems that I cannot open /usr/bin/qemu-arm, it is binary file | 11:59 |
| Stskeeps | tyson_: yes, it should be - could you show output of the command 'file /usr/bin/qemu-arm'? | 12:00 |
| Stskeeps | file is a command :) | 12:00 |
| Stskeeps | er, i mean wintige: | 12:01 |
| wintige | Stskeeps: yes, result:/usr/bin/qemu-arm: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, stripped | 12:01 |
| Stskeeps | wintige: ah, there's the problem :) | 12:02 |
| Stskeeps | wintige: it should be statically linked | 12:02 |
| Stskeeps | wintige: second | 12:02 |
| tyson_ | Stskeeps: OK, because i found the meego.com's package is different with the QT generate's package..so i'm afriad if i add some wrong packages, maybe i can not build my own meego image. so....ah | 12:03 |
| Stskeeps | wintige: rpm -e qemu-user; rpm -i http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/dl9pf:/qemu/Fedora_12/i386/qemu-devel-0.13git2010.06.24.1826-8.1.i386.rpm | 12:04 |
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| wintige | Stskeeps: you mean I should uninstall qemu? | 12:06 |
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| wintige | Stskeeps:the first command: error: Failed dependencies: qemu-user = 2:0.12.5-1.fc13 is needed by (installed) qemu-2:0.12.5-1.fc13.i686 | 12:08 |
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| Stskeeps | wintige: yeah, let's just do that to get things working | 12:09 |
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| tyson_ | Stskeeps: excuse me, if i add the helloworld package to my repo..and succeed generate the raw image. and use the flasher3.5 to install it to N900, how can i look it in my N900? can i see the icon of the helloworld,and click it ,and then see the "hello world!~" | 12:09 |
| Stskeeps | tyson_: if the helloworld package has a .desktop file yes | 12:10 |
| Stskeeps | tyson_: and you would write the .raw image to a microSD card and load the kernel | 12:11 |
| Stskeeps | as in wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/MMC | 12:11 |
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| wintige | Stskeeps: I did it , try again? | 12:13 |
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| tyson_ | Stskeeps: yes. now my N900 installed the meego os. if i didn't do this. i certainly don't konw the falsher 3.5. ah | 12:14 |
| tyson_ | Stskeeps: BTW, thank you very much ..Stskeeps.. | 12:14 |
| Stskeeps | wintige: yes | 12:15 |
| wintige | Stskeeps: should I need to install qemu-arm, seems not exsit | 12:15 |
| Stskeeps | tyson_: no problem - consider making a wiki page on wiki.meego.com describing what you had to do | 12:15 |
| Stskeeps | wintige: /usr/bin/qemu-arm should exist now that you added qemu-devel with 'rpm -i http://'' | 12:15 |
| Stskeeps | tyson_: then we can point the next person with same problem to the wiki page :) | 12:16 |
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| wintige | Stskeeps: no, it not exsit. | 12:17 |
| tyson_ | Stskeeps: How to do this, because i'm a meego fresh man.. sorry.. | 12:17 |
| Stskeeps | tyson_: do you have a meego.com account? | 12:17 |
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| Stskeeps | wintige: did you run rpm -i http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/dl9pf:/qemu/Fedora_12/i386/qemu-devel-0.13git2010.06.24.1826-8.1.i386.rpm | 12:17 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 12:17 |
| tyson_ | Stskeeps: yes.. my email is xiqiubo@gmail.com... | 12:17 |
| wintige | Stskeeps: I am on fedora13, is fedora12 ok? | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | wintige: yes | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | wintige: it's a static binary | 12:18 |
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| Stskeeps | tyson_: you can go to http://wiki.meego.com/User:Tyson/Adding_a_package_to_a_MeeGo_Image and click "create", write a document with how you did it and then click 'save' :) | 12:19 |
| Stskeeps | tyson_: and in the future we can use what you wrote to help others | 12:19 |
| wintige | Stskeeps: I did it twice ,but it still not exist | 12:19 |
| Stskeeps | wintige: that's a bit odd | 12:20 |
| Stskeeps | wintige: rpm -ql qemu-devel | 12:20 |
| tyson_ | Stskeeps: OK , this like bolg..isn't it? | 12:20 |
| wintige | Stskeeps: package qemu-devel is not installed | 12:20 |
| Stskeeps | tyson_: like wikipedia | 12:20 |
| Stskeeps | wintige: well, something went wrong when you ran 'rpm -i http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/dl9pf:/qemu/Fedora_12/i386/qemu-devel-0.13git2010.06.24.1826-8.1.i386.rpm | 12:20 |
| Stskeeps | then | 12:20 |
| Stskeeps | could you tell me any errors it says? | 12:20 |
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| wintige | only a warning: /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.Ttd1Ba: Header V3 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 62b49fdb: NOKEY | 12:21 |
| Stskeeps | wintige: ok, then it should have installed it - rpm -ql qemu-devel doesn't say anything? | 12:22 |
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| wintige | Stskeeps:nothing but not installed , information: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/867512 | 12:24 |
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| Stskeeps | next time when there's a bunch of output, don't say 'only a warning' :) | 12:25 |
| Stskeeps | rpm -e qemu-common | 12:25 |
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| wintige | Stskeeps:I am sorry. | 12:26 |
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| tyson_ | Stskeeps: OK, now i try to add helloworld package to my own image, if succeed , i will write the wikipedia. and could you tell me something about how to make a package with the desktop file..if i use the QT tool generate's package, it has not the desktop file. | 12:27 |
| wintige | Stskeeps:it needed by many qemu-system- file | 12:28 |
| wintige | Stskeeps:rpm -e anyway? | 12:28 |
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| wintige | Stskeeps:online? | 12:43 |
| Stskeeps | tyson_: uncertain of that part - you can probably run it from console | 12:43 |
| Stskeeps | wintige: yeah, just rpm -e the things blocking installation | 12:44 |
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| Stskeeps | i'm online but was vacuuming my apartment :) | 12:44 |
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| wintige | Skskeeps:you are busy, now I run 'yum remove qemu*',and I can not install them | 12:49 |
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| wintige | Stskeeps:but this time , I run 'rpm -i 'http'' , just that warings | 12:51 |
| wintige | Stskeeps:and it work normal now, | 12:52 |
| wintige | Stskeeps:thank you very much | 12:52 |
| Stskeeps | no problem - could you add a section to http://wiki.meego.com/Developing_in_a_MeeGo_Environment on how you had to fix it? and how to diagnose something was wrong ('file /usr/bin/qemu-arm') | 12:53 |
| Stskeeps | i'm off for now, bbl | 12:53 |
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| Stskeeps | there's a 'Troubleshooting (ARM)' section it would fit great in | 12:54 |
| Mat_Matan | hi (bry) | 12:54 |
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| wintige | Stskeeps:ok ,thanks again | 12:55 |
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| tyson_ | Stskeeps: excuse me, i don't know the package name i should write to the ks file..the QT generate's package name is helloworld-0.0.1-1.i586.rpm... i write the "helloworld" or "helloworld-0.0.1-1.i586.rpm" to the %package section? | 13:06 |
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| lcuk_idea2 | hey, can i remove the sliding transition effect that occurs when alt-tabbing | 13:12 |
| lcuk_idea2 | ? | 13:12 |
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| theplic | lcuk_idea2: you dont like it? | 13:12 |
| lcuk_idea | theplic, it does not match with the alt-tab order | 13:12 |
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| lcuk_idea | so when switching it makes my brain fritz | 13:12 |
| theplic | lcuk: hi lcuk | 13:12 |
| theplic | oh | 13:13 |
| theplic | wut? | 13:13 |
| tyson_ | Stskeeps: the error like this: Error: failed to create image : <urlopen error [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/administrator/myrepo/LICENSE.txt'>.....and i need leave now. maybe you can post email to me. my emali is xiqiubo@gmail.com. thank you very much. | 13:13 |
| lcuk_idea | i just filed bug 10544 | 13:13 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10544 nor, Undecided, ---, tf, NEW, Alt-Tab app order not reflected in applications | 13:13 |
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| kismeter | Hello, I setup a local obs, it can build meego packages. but obs have a problem, when I login as Admin and want to delete a user, error occurs. it says "You sent an invalid request!". any body know the problems? | 13:14 |
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| ElijahsFriend | 'God bless america' | 13:15 |
| ElijahsFriend | I hear this call in all circles. Military, Political, Financial and even Churches. But I say America bless God first. Make him proud to be an American then yes he will bless you as a nation. In your coming and in your going, in your dealings and in your negotiations yes I dare say even in your prosperity. But it is not a one way street. Should God reward us for our misdeeds, our greed and... | 13:15 |
| ElijahsFriend | ...our lack of mercy. We push our power around like a bully rather than a benefactor. I say let us show God what we want from him and not the other way around because we neither obey nor follow the lead we just goad that he favors us. Now let me show you when he blesses other nations so that you can see what you missed. As far as one nation under God you can kiss my ass. - Elijah | 13:15 |
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| theplic | was that a troll? | 13:16 |
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| jonnor | No, trolls stay for the discussion. | 13:17 |
| rauli | he appears to be a messenger from god | 13:17 |
| lcuk_idea | it was additional training texts for irc bots :P | 13:17 |
| kismeter | haha maybe | 13:17 |
| jonnor | rauli: is that what one calls spammers these days? .p | 13:17 |
| jayne | he certainly seemed to feel he was a messenger from God. | 13:18 |
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| kismeter | any body know about the obs can solve my problem? | 13:19 |
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| lcuk_idea | kismeter, are you sure you are not trying to remotely delete a user | 13:20 |
| kismeter | lcuk_idea: you mean delete a user just available on local? | 13:22 |
| rauli | jonnor: actually i think he was quoting the movie there will be blood | 13:22 |
| lcuk_idea | kismeter, dunno, just asking a question that comes to mind | 13:22 |
| kismeter | lcuk_idea::P | 13:23 |
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| kismeter | X-Fade:I setup a local obs, it can build meego packages. but obs have a problem, when I login as Admin and want to delete a user, error occurs. it says "You sent an invalid request!". can you give me some suggestion | 13:27 |
| davidjensenusa | lwhen is meego coming out? | 13:28 |
| lcuk_idea | davidjensenusa, which meego, many people are happily using certain variants | 13:28 |
| * lcuk_idea is on meego atm | 13:28 | |
| davidjensenusa | wwhat are the variants? i assume this means tablet, car, smartphone? | 13:30 |
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| gebi | how are umts/3g modems supposed to work on meego? | 13:43 |
| gebi | i've 2 which work perfectly on debian and ubuntu but don't do anything on meego? | 13:43 |
| Termana | gebi, when ofono supports them, and MeeGo uses a version of ofono that supports them, ofono and connman should let you use 3G modems. | 13:44 |
| Termana | With whatever network manager MeeGo Netbook uses | 13:44 |
| thiago_home | connman | 13:45 |
| gebi | and how? i've plugged in the 3G modem (even with disabled pin) and nothing comes up | 13:45 |
| gebi | only the dmesg output that a new gsm modem was plugged in | 13:46 |
| Termana | thiago_home, err... right. Nevermind me, going a bit delusional | 13:46 |
| gebi | both modems should be supported by ofono, it's a huawei and a zte 180 | 13:46 |
| gebi | zte even with disabled pin | 13:46 |
| Termana | gebi, like I said, ofono doesn't support general USB 3G modems at the moment, and even if they have now implemented it, MeeGo isn't using a version that supports it | 13:47 |
| Termana | to my knowledge. | 13:47 |
| gebi | oh, didn't read that from your response sorry | 13:47 |
| gebi | but du you _really_ say that a netbook distri like meego does not support 3g modems?? | 13:47 |
| gebi | a netbook without internet is just a pice of crap, albeit light crap | 13:48 |
| Termana | yes I _really_ said that. As evidenced by the words on your screen and the log in the log file, I said that | 13:48 |
| Termana | At least for 1.1 | 13:48 |
| thiago_home | it should work | 13:48 |
| thiago_home | if it doesn't, it's a bug | 13:48 |
| thiago_home | please file it so we can correct it | 13:48 |
| gebi | oh, didn't even thought about that possibility, thx | 13:49 |
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| gebi | thiago_home: how should they work? (should be a real question) does the 3g modem come up as new connection under network? | 13:50 |
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| thiago_home | I don't know | 13:52 |
| thiago_home | I don't have any modem to test with | 13:52 |
| thiago_home | the only time I use a modem is when I plug my N900 to my laptop via USB and dial out | 13:52 |
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| gebi | oh? really? here in austria you get faster connection with umts than with wired internet, at least in the inner cities | 13:53 |
| thiago_home | yeah, not gonna get 20 Mbit/s on UMTS... | 13:55 |
| thiago_home | the office has a 34 Mbit/s and I live 15 minutes away | 13:56 |
| thiago_home | the only time I use 3G is when I'm travelling and the conference place's Internet is horrible | 13:56 |
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| gebi | thiago_home: heh... | 14:00 |
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| gebi | here i get 3mbit with a 'up to' 20mbit dsl and live in the center of the city, umts has no problems getting to 5mbit | 14:01 |
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| lcuk_idea | NooBmonk3y, good morning \o | 14:13 |
| NooBmonk3y | Gooooood morning :) | 14:13 |
| lcuk_idea | what delicious cakes is Mandy making today? *grin* | 14:13 |
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| NooBmonk3y | hehe, she's at the bank talking mortages, not as fun as cake making :( | 14:14 |
| lcuk_idea | NooBmonk3y, home making is important :P | 14:16 |
| NooBmonk3y | lol, she already has a house, wants another lol | 14:17 |
| NooBmonk3y | some people are just greedy :P | 14:17 |
| lcuk_idea | one monkey not enough for her :P | 14:17 |
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| theplic | whos making cake? | 14:19 |
| lcuk_idea | theplic, normally mrs NooBmonk3y | 14:20 |
| theplic | ah | 14:20 |
| theplic | i would like to eat her cake | 14:20 |
| NooBmonk3y | lol | 14:20 |
| lcuk_idea | lol | 14:20 |
| theplic | wait that did not come out as expected. | 14:20 |
| NooBmonk3y | theplic, it could have come out worse though | 14:20 |
| theplic | yea | 14:21 |
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| kPb_in | am trying to install meego on n900.. I have uboot installed and I did "dd" raw image on mmc.. now where should I create boot.scr? | 14:28 |
| Stskeeps | kPb_in: just grab 'demo' image from tablets-dev.nokia.com/meego-codedrop.php | 14:29 |
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| Stskeeps | and that should help you easily | 14:32 |
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| kPb_in | Stskeeps: Ok.. | 14:33 |
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| lcuk_idea | is there any tweak to prevent meego from shutting down when I close the lid? mainly when I am charger | 14:48 |
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| javispedro | laptop working with lid closed could be a hazard | 14:56 |
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| javispedro | (heating) | 14:57 |
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| lcuk_idea | javispedro, closing the lid to move around the house is more of a hazard | 14:58 |
| lcuk_idea | :P | 14:58 |
| lcuk_idea | especially to sanity | 14:59 |
| javispedro | heh | 14:59 |
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| chuckgao | hi guys, do you know is there any HDMI lib can be use in Meego/Linux ? | 15:11 |
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| jonnor | chuckgao: what do you mean HDMI lib? | 15:33 |
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| chuckgao | hi jonnor , sorry for reply late . I mean , just like Nokia N8 , they use a lib(maybe symbian or not) to implement HDMI tv-out | 16:05 |
| chuckgao | Meego dosn't have yet, maybe in the furture will | 16:06 |
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| lcuk_idea | chuckgao, o_O is meego running on the N8 then to require HDMI out? | 16:11 |
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| chuckgao | no,it looks like the HW of the meego's device didn't support HDMI now .And for N8 ,symbian^3 support the feature | 16:19 |
| chuckgao | i just find in Linux , ASLA seems have APIs to do this , but i'm not sure | 16:20 |
| theplic | can meego be installed on n8? | 16:21 |
| lcuk_idea | i am not even sure if generic tvout is working on the n900 handset actually | 16:21 |
| jonnor | chuckgao: HDMI video output is provided by the graphics drivers | 16:23 |
| jonnor | chuckgao: HDMI audio output is provided by audio drivers | 16:23 |
| lcuk_idea | chuckgao, HDMI holograph output is provided by R2D2 | 16:24 |
| chuckgao | @jonnor, so , how about N8's HDMI output , do you know how they do it ? | 16:25 |
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| Stskeeps | chuckgao: thats symbian and probably also gfx drivers | 16:25 |
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| lcuk_idea | Stskeeps, the tvout mirroring on n900, low priority I know, but I see no bugs about it, do you happen to know where there is one? | 16:27 |
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| * lcuk_idea will file if not there yet | 16:27 | |
| Stskeeps | lcuk_idea: we have a patch, just not upstreamed | 16:28 |
| lcuk_idea | coolio! | 16:28 |
| Stskeeps | we just got it a day after our n900 talk | 16:29 |
| jonnor | has there been anything happening regarding a Meego port for the N8? | 16:29 |
| lcuk_idea | sweet yeah | 16:29 |
| chuckgao | hi Stskeeps , can we use the gfx drivers directly to make the output in both symbian and meego ?Or we should use some symbian C++ api ? | 16:29 |
| lcuk_idea | i noted that the examples and demos were done using OHP like maemo2008 style lol | 16:29 |
| jonnor | chuckgao: do you mean as an application? | 16:29 |
| chuckgao | yes | 16:30 |
| chuckgao | something like that | 16:30 |
| lcuk_idea | chuckgao, i would expect that driver sharing between symbian and meego would be not possible | 16:30 |
| chuckgao | hi , do you Helix ? | 16:30 |
| lcuk_idea | initial thing, does general linux support hdmi out? | 16:30 |
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| jonnor | of course | 16:31 |
| lcuk_idea | jonner, cool, i recall someone saying it didnt | 16:31 |
| lcuk_idea | perhaps it was only one flavour | 16:31 |
| jonnor | chuckgao: in general, the application does not need to know anything about the output system to be displayed there | 16:32 |
| chuckgao | so , you mean , the gfx driver will do it for us ? we just need to connect the phone and the tv ? | 16:34 |
| lcuk_idea | haha bug 8873 | 16:34 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8873 enh, Medium, ---, rusty.lynch, NEW, need a touch friendly file picker dialog for app development | 16:34 |
| Stskeeps | chuckgao: usually policy turns it on, but ye | 16:35 |
| Stskeeps | s | 16:35 |
| jonnor | chuckgao: yes typically, the graphics system handles it, and there is no reason it cannot be automatic | 16:35 |
| jonnor | however, if one want an application to *control* the video output alone, that would have to be solved differently | 16:36 |
| jonnor | on a handset and similar devices (which typically do not have a good concept of a multi-screen workspace) that might be wanted | 16:37 |
| chuckgao | i have a question here , someone told me that there has 2 modes with HDMI output , one is called copy mode , and another i forget the name , do you know what does it mean? | 16:37 |
| jonnor | you mean "clone" versus "extend"? | 16:38 |
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| jonnor | these are not really HMDI modes per se, more like the typical ways one would use a HDMI output in the graphics system | 16:38 |
| chuckgao | maybe , i'm not sure . What's the differences between the two ? | 16:38 |
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| jonnor | very roughly clone gives you the same image on the external output as on the primary screen, where as extend gives you an area which can display something different | 16:40 |
| jonnor | can the N900 be used for the extend case at all? | 16:40 |
| jonnor | I don't have a tv to test with, but I suspect not | 16:41 |
| Stskeeps | jonnor: with xv tricks i think | 16:41 |
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| javispedro | well | 16:42 |
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| chuckgao | the N8 can be used for the Clone case, but how about the "extend" case ? Can N8 do that ? | 16:42 |
| javispedro | you could also setup another xorg server on the fb1 device :) | 16:42 |
| javispedro | dunno if you'd be able to use sgx to it. | 16:42 |
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| Stskeeps | chuckgao: we do meego, we dont know anything about symbian :) | 16:43 |
| javispedro | jonnor: the stock N900 maemo already does it for the builtin media player | 16:44 |
| chuckgao | yes , do you know how can we handle the mode? | 16:44 |
| jonnor | javispedro: really, that is nice | 16:44 |
| jonnor | I suspect future Meego devices to at least have feature parity with that then | 16:44 |
| chuckgao | if i want a extend mode , how can i do that ? | 16:44 |
| jonnor | *Meego handset | 16:44 |
| javispedro | I also remember reading that the N8 does it also for videos... | 16:45 |
| javispedro | (because it can output full 1080p over HDMI, can't it?) | 16:45 |
| prometoys | hi, is there a meego tweaks or beginners guide? | 16:45 |
| jonnor | Hopefully this will be public, supported API for these cases in future devices | 16:45 |
| jonnor | *there | 16:46 |
| prometoys | i really like to use meego, but I miss a lot of stuff. the debian users translation guide is a good start, but i need more info | 16:46 |
| jonnor | prometoys: what are you missing? | 16:46 |
| prometoys | like, how do i start/stop services | 16:46 |
| jonnor | hopefully that will soon be using systemd :D | 16:47 |
| prometoys | infos about repositories, shortcuts, settings, what is used instead of init etc | 16:47 |
| jonnor | I thiink it is using upstart right now | 16:48 |
| GAN900 | Depends on the UX, no? | 16:48 |
| Stskeeps | no, sysvinit and fastboot | 16:48 |
| prometoys | stskeeps, jonnor: thanks | 16:49 |
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| lcuk_idea | MeeGoExperts1, \o | 16:51 |
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| prometoys | does anybody managed to get a n900 (with maemo5) running as a modem for meego? | 16:53 |
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| lcuk_idea | hmmm prometoys | 16:58 |
| lcuk_idea | its detected by low level | 16:58 |
| lcuk_idea | but does not come through to the UX | 16:59 |
| lcuk_idea | [ 4195.346547] usb 1-2: Product: N900 (PC-Suite Mode) | 16:59 |
| lcuk_idea | [ 4195.346555] usb 1-2: Manufacturer: Nokia | 16:59 |
| lcuk_idea | [ 4195.350798] cdc_acm 1-2:1.6: This device cannot do calls on its own. It is not a modem. | 16:59 |
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| prometoys | this is the dark side of network-manager, i get used to the comfort that it just works | 16:59 |
| prometoys | now i have no idea how to use the n900 as a modem from the shell :) | 17:00 |
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| thiago_home | USB? | 17:00 |
| theplic | hi thiago | 17:00 |
| lcuk_idea | yes thiago | 17:00 |
| theplic | hi thiago_home | 17:00 |
| lcuk_idea | plugged in and did the same action on n900 that I do in other lesser OSes | 17:01 |
| lcuk_idea | I will file this as a bug actually | 17:01 |
| thiago_home | let me check my manual config | 17:01 |
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| theplic | lesser OS's ? | 17:01 |
| thiago_home | confirm /dev/ttyACM0 exists | 17:01 |
| thiago_home | configure your init string to: AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","internet.netcom.no","",0,0 | 17:02 |
| NooBmonk3y | lcuk, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=884418#post884418 :) | 17:02 |
| thiago_home | replace internet.netcom.no with your operator's APN | 17:02 |
| lcuk_idea | thiago, yes it does | 17:02 |
| prometoys | thiago, lcuk: thanks | 17:02 |
| thiago_home | dial *99# | 17:02 |
| lcuk_idea | i have never configured an init string in my life | 17:03 |
| thiago_home | that's it | 17:03 |
| tmzt_g2root | that's using a proxy on the phone? not phonet? | 17:03 |
| thiago_home | no, that's 3G via the USB modem | 17:03 |
| prometoys | thiago: where do I define the init string? | 17:05 |
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| lcuk_idea | NooBmonk3y, :) you are simply awesome, you know that don;t you | 17:06 |
| * NooBmonk3y grins sheepishly | 17:06 | |
| NooBmonk3y | you can tell i really am trying to make this thing actually look usable! | 17:07 |
| * lcuk_idea giggles at SMS | 17:07 | |
| thiago_home | prometoys: how are you going to dial? | 17:07 |
| prometoys | thiago: good question, i have no idea. | 17:08 |
| * thiago_home uses kppp | 17:08 | |
| lcuk_idea | thiago, on n900 i just connect to internet using its UI, plug in usb and select pc suite mode | 17:08 |
| lcuk_idea | it then comes up as a modem on my laptop | 17:08 |
| lcuk_idea | no dialing reqd | 17:08 |
| thiago_home | lcuk_idea: it comes up as a modem, but how do you use the modem? | 17:09 |
| thiago_home | pc suite mode enables USB networking | 17:09 |
| lcuk_idea | connection manager whatsit, just like any other network connection | 17:09 |
| thiago_home | but AFAIK the Fremantle kernel doesn't come with NAT enabled | 17:09 |
| lcuk_idea | works like a charm, lots of people have same experience | 17:10 |
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| thiago_home | now try without turning on the internet in the N900 UI | 17:10 |
| lcuk_idea | the other connection method is also not available at the moment | 17:10 |
| lcuk_idea | since meego networking does not support adhoc | 17:10 |
| lcuk_idea | thiago, why would I do that | 17:10 |
| lcuk_idea | i want internet, so i connect to internet | 17:10 |
| thiago_home | because you'd see you don't have to connect using the N900 UI | 17:10 |
| thiago_home | from what I can tell, it's a separate connection | 17:11 |
| lcuk_idea | would the n900 ui show that it was connected via your method? | 17:11 |
| prometoys | thiago: yes, in ubuntu i would use network-manager to establish the connection. what do i use in meego | 17:11 |
| thiago_home | lcuk_idea: no | 17:11 |
| lcuk_idea | so potentially peoples credit could be going down | 17:11 |
| lcuk_idea | without realising it by just glancing at n900 | 17:12 |
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| thiago_home | that means it's a Fremantle UI issue | 17:12 |
| thiago_home | if I can go online without it showing in the UI, it's a Fremantle bug | 17:12 |
| lcuk_idea | having to remember an arcane connection string is more the issue :P | 17:13 |
| thiago_home | I don't remember | 17:13 |
| thiago_home | I looked it up once and put it in my kppp | 17:13 |
| thiago_home | now I simply fire it up and press Connect | 17:13 |
| thiago_home | anyway, if you turn off your connection on the N900, does the computer disconnect too? | 17:13 |
| prometoys | i have a flatrate. via gprs i can use two connections, one in the n900 itself, one with n900 itself, with 3g i must disconnect the connection in maemo | 17:14 |
| lcuk_idea | the 3g connection routinely connects and disconnects | 17:14 |
| lcuk_idea | thats part of 3g | 17:14 |
| prometoys | but, how do i connect to 3g with n900 as modem in meego (on a netbook) | 17:14 |
| lcuk_idea | "celluar data not available" | 17:14 |
| thiago_home | prometoys: I don't know, I've never tried. | 17:15 |
| thiago_home | I've only tried on my laptop and I use a distribution that thankfully doesn't have NM | 17:15 |
| prometoys | thiago: i have no problems with NM. it works perfectly with NM. I want do it without NM! ;) | 17:16 |
| thiago_home | I've just told you | 17:16 |
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| CosmoHill | that's the first time I've ever defrosted a hose pipe | 17:16 |
| thiago_home | pppd+chat are the old-time tools for dial-up | 17:17 |
| thiago_home | so just use them | 17:17 |
| jonnor | but make sure a bug is filed against connman too, it should allow you do do thee things | 17:18 |
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| thiago_home | connman should just detect the presence of a USB modem and then offer for you to connect | 17:18 |
| prometoys | jonnor: i hope it will be accepted, not like the 802.1X networks (#2588) | 17:19 |
| lcuk_idea | thiago, do you have qt-creator on your meego netbook install? | 17:19 |
| thiago_home | lcuk_idea: haven't installed anything on it yet | 17:19 |
| lcuk_idea | is it just me or does the font in the code editor look ill?! | 17:19 |
| prometoys | thiago: "should" in future? means it cant do it right now? | 17:19 |
| thiago_home | prometoys: I don't know. Like I told you, I have never tried. | 17:19 |
| lcuk_idea | thiago, please do, would be good to have an expert such as yourself looking :) | 17:20 |
| thiago_home | prometoys: but my point is that this is the objective. If it isn't doing so, it's either not implemented (future feature) or a bug. | 17:20 |
| prometoys | thiago: sorry, i just wanted to be sure, that there is no misunderstanding... my english skills, u know | 17:20 |
| prometoys | thiago: i tried it right now and it offers nothing, i just installed ppp and will try it again on the shell | 17:21 |
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| prometoys | with the n900 an alternative would be, configuring usb0 and using routing. is it possible with the n900 or something missing? | 17:23 |
| thiago_home | the n900 can do it | 17:24 |
| thiago_home | Maemo5 can't | 17:24 |
| thiago_home | no iptable_nat.ko | 17:24 |
| prometoys | thiago: oh, i just right now saw, that you mentioned kppp. is it available for meego? | 17:25 |
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| prometoys | thiago: what a pity | 17:25 |
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| lcuk_idea | nice, hello world from qt creator in meego on meego works! | 17:28 |
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| lcuk_idea | "sudo zypper install qt-creator" was all it took to get it installed too :) | 17:29 |
| lcuk_idea | much better than the faff required in windows! | 17:30 |
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| pexi | if the win-installer was problematic, you're in a deep hole when programming :) | 17:32 |
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| lcuk_idea | pexi, well getting started is a big issue for many people :) | 17:38 |
| pexi | true dat :) | 17:39 |
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| lcuk_idea | RevdKathy, thats because i am at ians :P | 17:48 |
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| RevdKathy | So you exaggerated the statement 'talking on irc' ;) | 17:49 |
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| lcuk_idea | no, thiago came up with a mechanism to use n900 from the ideapad, dont know if it works tho | 17:50 |
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| RevdKathy | Be interested to see! Did you see this: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=2097 | 17:53 |
| RST38h | Consider using Bluetooth to connect. | 17:54 |
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| niala | lcuk: hello, 05:49:46 PM) lcuk_idea: no, thiago came up with a mechanism to use n900 from <--- maybe synergy ? | 17:56 |
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| timeless_mbp | so, i found my collabora shirt :) | 18:05 |
| CosmoHill | yay | 18:05 |
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| prometoys | ok, i played with ppp and cant get working configuration | 18:16 |
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| prometoys | but i must did something with my n900. when i received a call, the sound was broken | 18:17 |
| prometoys | like a stream on low bandwith | 18:17 |
| prometoys | she couldnt hear me, too | 18:18 |
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| Venemo_N900 | does the N900's FM transmitter work on MeeGo? | 18:22 |
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| RevdKathy | Does anyone have a working microphone/sound input on the ideapad? | 18:34 |
| theplic | whats an ideapad? | 18:35 |
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| Texrat | anyone home? | 18:40 |
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| GAN900 | Texrat, no. | 18:42 |
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| Venemo_N900 | Texrat: I'm home, why do you ask? | 18:45 |
| Texrat | ah cool | 18:45 |
| Texrat | no reason | 18:46 |
| Texrat | it was just so quiet here | 18:46 |
| Venemo_N900 | :) | 18:46 |
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| RevdKathy | Hi Texrat! | 18:49 |
| Texrat | hey | 18:50 |
| Stskeeps | lo kathy, texrat | 18:51 |
| Venemo_N900 | hi Stskeeps | 18:52 |
| Stskeeps | hi venemo | 18:52 |
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| Texrat | hola! | 18:53 |
| Jay_BEE | hiyas | 18:53 |
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| RevdKathy | 'lo Stskeeps :) | 18:55 |
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| lcuk_idea | spyro and I running meego on an eee | 19:36 |
| lcuk_idea | i keep bashing the screen :P | 19:36 |
| GAN900 | Jaffa, still running MeeGo? :P | 19:36 |
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| Venemo_N900 | RevdKathy: are you here? | 19:58 |
| Jaffa | GAN900: Don't use it often enough to have bothered replacing it... | 19:59 |
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| RevdKathy | It varies Venemo_N900. I am here if I'm not anywhere else. Since I got the IdeaPad, I have tended to hang round here looking for help/info/etc | 20:00 |
| javispedro | btw, for task switching on the netbook ux you can also try and tap on the top pixel row :) | 20:00 |
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| AndyBleaden | RevdKathy, Hi Have you sorted your skype issue | 20:03 |
| GAN900 | Jaffa, I'm actually bothering to take it to work with me with Ubuntu on it. | 20:04 |
| RevdKathy | No, apparently the IdeaPad doesn't have any sound input? I mean, hardware-wise it does, but can't actually use a mic. | 20:04 |
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| javispedro | it has a mic iirc | 20:04 |
| javispedro | lemme check it out | 20:05 |
| GAN900 | RevdKathy, all of these words make it sounds like you're trying to do unsupported things. *eg* | 20:05 |
| * javispedro is also doing prolly "unsupported" things ;) | 20:05 | |
| RevdKathy | Well, I'm trying to use skype, GAN900. | 20:06 |
| AndyBleaden | RevdKathy, I managed it by installing xfce sudo zypper install xfce4-mixer and then running that to set up sound | 20:06 |
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| RevdKathy | Ohhh! Something new to try! Thanks AndyBleadon. Venemo_N900 that's why I hang round here! | 20:06 |
| javispedro | definitely has a mic :) | 20:07 |
| AndyBleaden | RevdKathy, it worked on my lenovo earlier one but same issue | 20:07 |
| AndyBleaden | it throws up a gui | 20:07 |
| AndyBleaden | wilol stick a piccy on twitpic | 20:07 |
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| RevdKathy | AndyBleadon thanks - I will try it. And a GUI is even better for us bears | 20:07 |
| RevdKathy | Have been exhorted to start a set of 'Bear's Guides' | 20:08 |
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| * lcuk_idea alt-tabs here | 20:11 | |
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| CosmoHill | dammit, no wonder I couldn't find my webcam | 20:12 |
| CosmoHill | I kept using lspci instead of lsusb >.< | 20:12 |
| AndyBleaden | RevdKathy, twitpic link coming over now | 20:12 |
| RevdKathy | Got it, thanks. Along with one from lcuk featuring bacon. | 20:13 |
| AndyBleaden | http://twitpic.com/3ar7hh | 20:13 |
| AndyBleaden | RevdKathy, cool | 20:13 |
| RevdKathy | No, the bacon image is far from cool, AndyBleadon | 20:14 |
| AndyBleaden | RevdKathy, you select your sound card (intel) I think | 20:14 |
| RevdKathy | Thanks _ I'll try that next! | 20:14 |
| AndyBleaden | Then select all the (click) all the boxes | 20:14 |
| AndyBleaden | It is in your apps as mixer | 20:15 |
| AndyBleaden | RevdKathy, Only turn up one mic not both and not too much or you will get LOUD FEEDBACK like I did :) | 20:17 |
| RevdKathy | AndyBleadon: mine looks slightly different - and doesn't find headphones | 20:17 |
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| AndyBleaden | have you selected all the controls (bottom left) | 20:18 |
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| RevdKathy | Yes - but it still doesn't find anything like so many | 20:19 |
| AndyBleaden | RevdKathy, BTW I am andybleaden not andybleadon.. :) He is a much maligned fig | 20:19 |
| RevdKathy | Oops! Sorry | 20:20 |
| AndyBleaden | RevdKathy, Which sound card have you select Middle Top drop down box where mine says HDA there may be other choices | 20:20 |
| RevdKathy | There is only that choice, and the analogue which has even less | 20:21 |
| Venemo_N900 | RevdKathy: just a small tip: most irc clients auto-complete names when typing in the first few characters then pressing tab | 20:21 |
| AndyBleaden | RevdKathy, No probs..Bleadon is near Weston Super Mare ..I was from Bristol :) | 20:21 |
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| RevdKathy | Is it you in Glossop I have just invited to chat on Skype then? | 20:21 |
| RevdKathy | Or some other random bloke? | 20:21 |
| AndyBleaden | RevdKathy, I tried to claim the village but the council said no | 20:21 |
| AndyBleaden | RevdKathy, | 20:22 |
| AndyBleaden | hang on | 20:22 |
| AndyBleaden | RevdKathy, Cest moi! | 20:22 |
| RevdKathy | aha! You are out to lunch? | 20:23 |
| AndyBleaden | RevdKathy, LIsten I need to split for a few hours...outlaws for dinner but will be back ...have a play around with sound mixer or sudo alsamixer | 20:23 |
| AndyBleaden | RevdKathy, need to update that...you will not have any mic yet tho? | 20:24 |
| RevdKathy | Ok - not hearing you but seeing you! | 20:25 |
| RevdKathy | probably not - need to reboot I expect | 20:25 |
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| AndyBleaden | RevdKathy, need to go I am afraid | 20:29 |
| RevdKathy | Ok - that was interesting. Mine looks nothing like that (overheard in the playground) | 20:29 |
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| RevdKathy | Have a good evening! | 20:29 |
| pupnik | you too RevdKathy | 20:30 |
| Venemo_N900 | you too | 20:30 |
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| RevdKathy | I'm still here - doing 12 things at once, but still here | 20:30 |
| tyson__ | Stskeeps: online? | 20:31 |
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| CosmoHill | when I install my nokia phone on windows 7, why do I get 7 unspecified devices instead of one nice phone device? | 20:39 |
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| CosmoHill | is it over? | 20:40 |
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| tyson__ | Stskeeps: online? | 20:41 |
| javispedro | seems so | 20:42 |
| javispedro | ^^CosmoHill | 20:42 |
| javispedro | btw, the topic line is broken | 20:42 |
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| javispedro | it has unicode non-breaking space instead of plain ascii space | 20:43 |
| javispedro | this breaks x-chat linkifier | 20:43 |
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| javispedro | for example character after "..../meego-irclog/" and before "| IRC guidelines" is instead of " " | 20:44 |
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| javispedro | this used to happen on #maemo... guess it is contagious ;) | 20:44 |
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| RevdKathy | WTF happened there? | 20:44 |
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| pupnik | here? | 20:44 |
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| RevdKathy | yeah, here | 20:44 |
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| pupnik | netsplit | 20:44 |
| pupnik | maybe | 20:44 |
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| CosmoHill | when I install my nokia phone on windows 7, why do I get 7 unspecified devices instead of one nice phone device? | 20:44 |
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| javispedro | ah, so it was not over. | 20:44 |
| javispedro | :( | 20:44 |
| alterego | Oh, was that a netsplit? | 20:44 |
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| tyson__ | many red color of "=="...... | 20:48 |
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| tyson__ | what's the problem？ | 20:49 |
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| CosmoHill | I'd like my nokia phone and all it's stuff to show up like this: http://black-flag.co.uk/files/printer-device.png | 20:51 |
| javispedro | device stage | 20:52 |
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| javispedro | it's a few registry keys away :) | 20:52 |
| javispedro | well, "a few". | 20:52 |
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| tyson__ | javispedro: china is now 2:55 am...what about you? | 20:57 |
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| CosmoHill | if anyone else ever sees it they're gonna wanna mug me :o | 20:57 |
| dm8tbr | CosmoHill: you want to emulate a printer? | 20:57 |
| CosmoHill | I mean I'dlike my phone to have that setup | 21:00 |
| CosmoHill | instead of 7 unspecifcied devices | 21:00 |
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| javispedro | tyson__: http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/eu/cet.html | 21:05 |
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| tyson__ | javispedro: thank you very much!~ | 21:09 |
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| niala | :( my bonsai tree dies | 21:12 |
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| CosmoHill | noooo! | 21:12 |
| tyson__ | niala: do you know me ? | 21:12 |
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| CosmoHill | my desktop is having one hell of a time and showing it's age | 21:16 |
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| niala | hello tyson_ :) it's must be late now for you | 21:20 |
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| villev | spectacle doesn't support building Qt projects OOB? | 21:20 |
| villev | it seems you need to patch the .spec file... | 21:20 |
| villev | is this still the case? | 21:21 |
| villev | that seems terribly, terribly wrong for a system where qt is the default toolkit | 21:21 |
| niala | hello CosmoHill, yes I m not sure if it's because of winter or not. | 21:21 |
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| lcuk_idea | hello timeless_mbp, lardman_ \o | 21:22 |
| Stskeeps | villev: there's autospectacle too | 21:22 |
| lcuk_idea | \o Stskeeps | 21:22 |
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| timeless_mbp | hi | 21:22 |
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| villev | Stskeeps: it's not in spectacle main package? (I'm using the tools repo for ubuntu) | 21:23 |
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| villev | well anyway, I'll read up on autospectacle | 21:25 |
| villev | is the current working assumption that we should be checking out the developer tools from git instead of using the repo? | 21:27 |
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| villev | well, autospectacle doesn't seem to get the job done | 21:31 |
| villev | Building package .... | 21:31 |
| villev | Build failed ... stopping here. | 21:31 |
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| villev | not the most verbose of the tools | 21:32 |
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| wyrwiszmat | hello | 21:48 |
| wyrwiszmat | i have problem with running meego sdk on ubuntu 10.10 x86_64 machine | 21:49 |
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| wyrwiszmat | its any solve for this problem? | 21:49 |
| villev | wyrwiszmat: my guess is that there is your problem right there :) | 21:49 |
| villev | (64 bin linux) | 21:50 |
| villev | bit | 21:50 |
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| wyrwiszmat | can i use vm to run and use sdk | 21:51 |
| wyrwiszmat | ? | 21:51 |
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| villev | wyrwiszmat: good question - you would have 2 nested vms | 21:59 |
| villev | as the sdk is using qemu as well... | 22:00 |
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| wyrwiszmat | villev: for linux 64bit its good choose? | 22:01 |
| Tumi_ | z | 22:01 |
| wyrwiszmat | "z"? | 22:01 |
| Tumi_ | zzzz( | 22:01 |
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| CosmoHill | hey Tumi_ | 22:04 |
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| * lbt clicks on lkml ... 80k unread messages... | 22:09 | |
| sivang | 80k/// | 22:09 |
| sivang | nice | 22:09 |
| CosmoHill | lbt: select all, delete | 22:10 |
| GAN900 | CosmoHill++ | 22:11 |
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| villev | wyrwiszmat: 64 bit linux is a bad idea unless you really need it | 22:15 |
| villev | so about this "extras" thing... is there a status report or somesuch for it? | 22:16 |
| CosmoHill | GAN900: you've just reminded me of all the programming I've been doing | 22:16 |
| villev | I know the builder just got up, but is there actually something useful trickling to extras already? | 22:16 |
| Mat_Matan | hi, where i can find meegosdk in one package? | 22:16 |
| villev | my build on obs is choking on find-debuginfo.sh | 22:18 |
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| Stskeeps | villev: people are working to cut time of that, at least for arm | 22:19 |
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| villev | Stskeeps: mine is probably stupid user error: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=i586&package=qmlreddit&project=home%3Avivainio&repository=meego_1.1_extras_Netbook | 22:20 |
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| villev | find: `/home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILDROOT/qmlreddit-0.0.1-9.1.i386': No such file or directory | 22:20 |
| villev | it creates and nukes that dir several times before | 22:21 |
| sivang | timeless_mbp: there's a good polish saying "I'll have plenty of time to sleep, *eventually* ;) | 22:21 |
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| villev | there is plenty of time for sleep in grave | 22:21 |
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| sivang | villev: exactly ! :) | 22:22 |
| sivang | villev: you know it as wel? | 22:22 |
| villev | I guess it's an international saying | 22:22 |
| sivang | villev: ah, here it is known as something immigrant pole jews days | 22:22 |
| sivang | *say | 22:22 |
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| sivang | villev: were you taking about the new extras for Maemo on the opensuse obs? | 22:23 |
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| GAN900 | Familiar in the US | 22:24 |
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| GAN900 | More often: "You can sleep when you're dead." though. | 22:24 |
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| villev | sivang: I'm talking about the extras for meego netbook | 22:25 |
| villev | that are sourced from build.pub.meego.com | 22:25 |
| sivang | ah, okay | 22:26 |
| sivang | unrelated thn. | 22:26 |
| villev | well, I imagine same obs could someday build maemo extras too | 22:28 |
| sivang | GAN900: more popular here as "I'll have plenty of time to sleep in the grave" when you tell your aunt she works too hard, or when you tell her shemakes her husband work too hard "He'll have plenty of time to sleep in the grave" | 22:28 |
| sivang | GAN900: etc | 22:28 |
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| sivang | villev: I read somwhere opensuse obs can build debs as well and rpms if packaging metadata is aval | 22:29 |
| sivang | villev: avail | 22:29 |
| villev | yeah, opensuse obs can e.g. build for ubuntu | 22:29 |
| villev | but starting to provide something you can use on n900 is work in progress I believe | 22:30 |
| sivang | I see. | 22:30 |
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| sivang | villev: qmlreddit? | 22:38 |
| sivang | villev: interesting :) | 22:38 |
| jonnor | villev: it was stated at the Meego conf that the OBS people were hoping to be able to build packages for freemantle and harmattan as well | 22:38 |
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| villev | sivang: you can try it on n900 already | 22:45 |
| villev | it's in extras-devel | 22:45 |
| villev | jonnor: yeah, and lbt has brought it up occasionally on maemo-dev ml | 22:46 |
| sivang | villev: will do | 22:47 |
| lbt | we have fremantle building on build.maemo.org | 22:47 |
| lbt | 'just' needs pulling over | 22:47 |
| lbt | meh... why not... | 22:48 |
| sivang | lbt: hopw do you enable obs to build for antoher packaging target? | 22:49 |
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| lbt | eg deb ? | 22:49 |
| sivang | lbt: yes how much involved is it? | 22:50 |
| lbt | you provide a debian/ dir and a dsc | 22:50 |
| villev | sivang: there are checkboxes where you choose the targets | 22:50 |
| lbt | a 'target' is a collection of packages needed to provide a chroot | 22:51 |
| lbt | so if you point to a target that has .deb pkgs in it then you end up with a deb-based chroot | 22:52 |
| lbt | similarly .rpm | 22:52 |
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| niala | CosmoHill: readingfc ? | 23:02 |
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| CosmoHill | 0 - 0 against leeds | 23:02 |
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| niala | CosmoHill: :( again !!! | 23:02 |
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| niala | always a draw | 23:03 |
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| CosmoHill | not always | 23:03 |
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| niala | nearly | 23:04 |
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| lbt | http://randomfunnypicture.com/wp2/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/meanwhile-in-finland.jpg | 23:27 |
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| CosmoHill | also in finland (NSFW) http://imgur.com/KIIVO.jpg | 23:30 |
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| * CosmoHill instantly starts looking for the undo button | 23:30 | |
| villev | anyone else think there is a framerate problem in meego 1.1 netbook + Qt apps btw? | 23:32 |
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| villev | qml works much slower than on, say, N900 on my ideapad with meego | 23:32 |
| mortenmj_ | currently meego for handset has a framerate problem just running the main menu, so whatevz you know | 23:34 |
| villev | yeah, I can understand handset probs, but for netbook as well | 23:34 |
| villev | the desktop shell works just fine | 23:34 |
| mortenmj_ | well, i'm currently at the emulation phase in the project i'm working on now. haven't tried actually running it in meego yet | 23:35 |
| mortenmj_ | i'll let you know how it goes | 23:35 |
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| cobra-the-joker | hey guys ... can install meego on samsung star ? | 23:51 |
| Venemo_N900 | I doubt it, but maybe it's possible | 23:52 |
| Venemo_N900 | I don't have a clue about how to do it though | 23:52 |
| cobra-the-joker | whats the requirments to be able to install it | 23:52 |
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| jonnor | cobra-the-joker: are you an end-user? | 23:53 |
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| cobra-the-joker | jonnor , somehow | 23:53 |
| jonnor | (as opposed to a developer/hacker)? | 23:53 |
| cobra-the-joker | in between | 23:53 |
| jonnor | cobra-the-joker: it will require a lot of hacking | 23:54 |
| cobra-the-joker | jonnor , i know some tricks | 23:55 |
| cobra-the-joker | althoiugh i wished to be supported | 23:55 |
| cobra-the-joker | i will do my best and post the results | 23:55 |
| jonnor | somehow I doubt you realize what this involves | 23:56 |
| jonnor | porting an OS to a new mobile device | 23:56 |
| cobra-the-joker | its opensource | 23:57 |
| cobra-the-joker | isnt it ? | 23:57 |
| jonnor | Meego core is open source, yes | 23:58 |
| jonnor | and the handset UX | 23:58 |
| lbt | cobra-the-joker: main thing... do you have decent 3D driver support ? | 23:58 |
| cobra-the-joker | lbt , you mean in the samsung star | 23:58 |
| cobra-the-joker | ? | 23:58 |
| lbt | yes | 23:58 |
| cobra-the-joker | i dont know actually | 23:59 |
| lbt | http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Porting_Guide | 23:59 |
| cobra-the-joker | thanx lbt , thats what i just needed | 23:59 |
| lcuk2 | villev, i note fonts in qt look grainy and coarse | 23:59 |
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