| andre__ | Aranel: and that is MeeGo? Looks like Maemo. | 00:00 |
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| Aranel | oops sorry, wrong channel :) | 00:00 |
| Aranel | lol and I was wondering why #maemo is too silent tonight :P | 00:01 |
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| gomoran | What package-system is used by meego? debs? | 00:12 |
| CosmoHill | rpm | 00:13 |
| CosmoHill | (at last, a question I can answer without using the words "I think") | 00:14 |
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| slaine | vgrade, you there ? | 00:39 |
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| ni1s | does meego netbook still only support intel graphics? | 00:40 |
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| slaine | yes | 00:40 |
| ni1s | right, thanks | 00:41 |
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| vgrade | slaine, hi | 00:50 |
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| slaine | hey vgrade, long time not chat | 00:51 |
| slaine | no chat even | 00:51 |
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| gomoran | CosmoHill: Thanks. What a pity! | 00:51 |
| vgrade | been busy with the daytime job | 00:51 |
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| slaine | same here, very busy | 00:52 |
| slaine | thankfully | 00:52 |
| CosmoHill | gomoran: we've had the deb vs rpm debate from april to may | 00:52 |
| vgrade | yup | 00:52 |
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| CosmoHill | hey vgrade | 00:52 |
| vgrade | hi CosmoHil | 00:52 |
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| gomoran | CosmoHill: The problem is I know how to build debs and don't know how to build rpms – nothing religious here. | 00:53 |
| CosmoHill | I think there was talks of RPM workshops | 00:53 |
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| slaine | vgrade, So the reason I poked you, I was wondering where the generic 686 build effort was left | 00:54 |
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| vgrade | I think Stskeeps and ali1234 did some work on it but I got sidetracked onto the Nexus port | 00:55 |
| gomoran | CosmoHill: I don't doubt it's possible to learn how to build rpms. | 00:55 |
| vgrade | there are some nonSSSE projects on the maemo obs in Stskeeps home | 00:55 |
| gomoran | CosmoHill: I just bought a WeTab and this make it more difficult to do something with it. | 00:56 |
| vgrade | Slaine, are you wanting to utilise it on some specific hw | 00:56 |
| slaine | Yeah, I recall he was looking at creating a set of packages for boot strapping | 00:57 |
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| vgrade | slaine, https://build.obs.maemo.org/project/show?project=home:stskeeps:ssse3_bootstrap | 00:58 |
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| slaine | vgrade, I've got a ton of ULV Celeron hardware, with the acursed i855 graphics hardware | 00:58 |
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| vgrade | slaine, repo here if you don't have obs login, http://download.obs.maemo.org/home:/stskeeps:/ssse3_bootstrap/current/ | 00:59 |
| slaine | Things have finally fallen into shape with the Intel driver git master for this hardware | 00:59 |
| Aard | gomoran: the wetab is not really meego, only uses parts of meego core | 00:59 |
| gomoran | Aard: I know. But there is meego “under the roof” | 01:00 |
| vgrade | slaine, are you going to the conf? | 01:00 |
| slaine | Yeah, you ? | 01:00 |
| gomoran | Aard: basically it's a meego with an other GUI – as far as I know. | 01:00 |
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| vgrade | slaine, 50:50 at the moment, we have an important delivery on the day job | 01:01 |
| slaine | yeah, same here, but screw it, I work hard enough | 01:02 |
| Aard | gomoran: I wouldn't be too surprised if they adjusted parts of meego core as well. though I didn't bother to check it when someone had a wetab with him last week, not really interested in that thing | 01:02 |
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| vgrade | slaine, do you have any hardware to contribute to a port? | 01:02 |
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| gomoran | Aard: Why not? It's nice hardware. | 01:03 |
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| slaine | possibly | 01:03 |
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| slaine | the main hardware is quite specialized and as a result expensive | 01:03 |
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| slaine | But we've some cheaper boxes that we used for set top boxes | 01:03 |
| vgrade | slaine, may be a way to push the development of a port | 01:03 |
| slaine | nod | 01:04 |
| Aard | not really, I'd have expected to finde less powerhungry components. was a bit disappointed when i read the specification | 01:04 |
| vgrade | Slaine, I'm sure the conf will be a good place to push it | 01:04 |
| slaine | I don't there is any shortage of non-ssse3 x86 hardware out there though :) | 01:04 |
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| Aard | privately I prefer toying with arm-hardware, and at work I got more interesting stuff as well | 01:04 |
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| vgrade | slaine, all our stuff is the bleeding edge due to the graphics in our apps | 01:06 |
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| vgrade | slaine, no ols stuff around anymore | 01:07 |
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| vgrade | old | 01:07 |
| vgrade | apart from me :) | 01:08 |
| slaine | haha, snap | 01:08 |
| slaine | We've about 15,000 flatpanel PC's out in hospitals across the world with that setup | 01:08 |
| slaine | Another 6,000 with Via CPU's and the CLE266 graphics | 01:09 |
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| slaine | Only really started getting Atom+945 hardware over the last year or so | 01:09 |
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| CosmoHill | CLE266? | 01:09 |
| slaine | Old Via graphics chipset | 01:10 |
| slaine | pretty nice, does some MPEG2 decoding in hardware with XvMC | 01:10 |
| slaine | well, it was pretty nice in the first half of the 00's | 01:11 |
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| vgrade | slaine, cle266 rings a bell, I have an itx board in the garage | 01:11 |
| slaine | yup, that's the one | 01:12 |
| slaine | I've one under my TV as a MythTV box | 01:12 |
| vgrade | slaine, I would hav thought that you would be looking at ARM (Beagleboards etc) on that sort of scale | 01:13 |
| CosmoHill | the pandaboard I was shown looks very nice | 01:13 |
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| vgrade | slaine, or do you have to stick with PC arch for interfaceing? | 01:13 |
| vgrade | CosmoHill, that seems to be a big topic atm, not looked at it. | 01:14 |
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| vgrade | ah, dual core Arm A9, open gpu drivers? | 01:15 |
| CosmoHill | I'd assume so | 01:15 |
| CosmoHill | there are guides on their website to installing distros | 01:16 |
| slaine | vgrade, I am interested, but manufacturers have traditionally done this stuff as embedded PC's, we tailored our software to suit | 01:16 |
| javispedro | open gpu drivers? | 01:17 |
| vgrade | CosmoHill, all my spare time devices have shocking gpu support, Joggler and nexus one | 01:17 |
| ScottishDuck | nexus one getting 2.3 on thursday apparently | 01:18 |
| vgrade | javispedro, I was asking if the panda had open graphics drivers, as so many of them don't so your stuck with an old kernel version with nowhere to go | 01:18 |
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| javispedro | vgrade: I'd think not, like most other embedded gpus... | 01:19 |
| CosmoHill | vgrade: http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/tfp410.html | 01:19 |
| CosmoHill | I think that's the graphics chip | 01:19 |
| javispedro | the graphics chip is a standard sgx540 iirc | 01:19 |
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| javispedro | yep, confirming http://pandaboard.org/content/platform | 01:20 |
| javispedro | so, expect 100% closed user space. | 01:20 |
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| CosmoHill | powerVR, where have I heard....oh | 01:21 |
| ScottishDuck | Richard stallman will create an open GPU using his beard hair | 01:22 |
| CosmoHill | fyi the DVI port isn't supported yet | 01:22 |
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| javispedro | ScottishDuck: on a FPGA from parts of the HDD he uses as aureole in his Saint personna | 01:23 |
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| spvensko | holy crap o___________O this channel has more people than i expected | 01:50 |
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| vgrade | night all | 01:51 |
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| slaine | night vgrade | 01:52 |
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| CosmoHill | bye vgrade | 01:54 |
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| slaine | time me to head too | 02:09 |
| slaine | catch you all tomorrow | 02:09 |
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| Jartza | nights | 02:09 |
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| CosmoHill | cyas | 02:21 |
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| ircmiester | sup nigs | 02:39 |
| * ircmiester is looking for some meego info | 02:39 | |
| lolloo | hey! | 02:40 |
| ircmiester | hey | 02:40 |
| ircmiester | lolloo whats up | 02:40 |
| ircmiester | u have some meego info? | 02:40 |
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| lolloo | hey! yeah I do ircmiester | 02:41 |
| lolloo | I tried it on my N900 successfully | 02:41 |
| lolloo | its horribly slow! but fun! | 02:41 |
| lolloo | also, Xterm is there! +1 for that! | 02:42 |
| ircmiester | wow! | 02:42 |
| lolloo | and awesome portiat mode homescreen! | 02:42 |
| ircmiester | can you tell me what it is? | 02:42 |
| lolloo | I also duelboot with maemo | 02:42 |
| ircmiester | what is meego? | 02:42 |
| ircmiester | a database server? | 02:42 |
| lolloo | hehehe | 02:42 |
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| lolloo | its an OS for phones | 02:43 |
| lolloo | like Android | 02:43 |
| ircmiester | o | 02:43 |
| ircmiester | i need it for my iPhone | 02:43 |
| lolloo | you can! | 02:43 |
| lolloo | just go to meego.com | 02:43 |
| ircmiester | great! | 02:43 |
| lolloo | you will find threads in forums | 02:43 |
| ircmiester | can i run it on my wristwatch? | 02:43 |
| lolloo | explaining how to install it! | 02:44 |
| lolloo | ya | 02:44 |
| lolloo | ofcourse you do | 02:44 |
| ircmiester | wow! | 02:44 |
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| ircmiester | what else??!? | 02:44 |
| lolloo | laptops, cars | 02:44 |
| ircmiester | coffee makers? | 02:44 |
| lolloo | ya! | 02:44 |
| lolloo | anything! | 02:44 |
| ircmiester | wow! | 02:44 |
| ircmiester | this is amazing! | 02:44 |
| lolloo | it's INTEL and Nokia big project | 02:44 |
| lolloo | all devices in next year will be using it! | 02:45 |
| lolloo | check meego.com | 02:45 |
| ircmiester | all? | 02:45 |
| lolloo | awesome info! | 02:45 |
| lolloo | all! | 02:45 |
| ircmiester | wowsers! | 02:45 |
| lolloo | yeah I know! pretty sleeeeek | 02:46 |
| ircmiester | this is amazing! | 02:46 |
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| ircmiester | lbt! did u hear? | 02:46 |
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| lolloo | now I can duel-boot on my N900 | 02:47 |
| lolloo | I have two OSes on my phone! | 02:47 |
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| ircmiester | yes! | 02:47 |
| ircmiester | can you run apache? | 02:47 |
| lolloo | yes you can! | 02:47 |
| ircmiester | wow! | 02:48 |
| ircmiester | amazing! | 02:48 |
| ircmiester | you continue to amaze me! | 02:48 |
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| lolloo | the confrence will be arranged next week | 02:48 |
| lolloo | you can book you seat! | 02:48 |
| lolloo | I already booked mine! | 02:48 |
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| ircmiester | where? | 02:49 |
| ircmiester | Vegas? | 02:49 |
| *** ircmiester is now known as _Bryanstein | 02:49 | |
| lolloo | no my friend | 02:50 |
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| lolloo | it's in Dublin. | 02:50 |
| _Bryanstein | dam | 02:50 |
| _Bryanstein | i can't make it | 02:50 |
| lolloo | 15 november! | 02:51 |
| _Bryanstein | wow! | 02:51 |
| lolloo | please come all! this is will be big thing! | 02:51 |
| _Bryanstein | can i run mysql+php+apache on this Meego ? | 02:51 |
| lolloo | yes ofcourse | 02:51 |
| lolloo | it's a complete OS | 02:52 |
| _Bryanstein | wow! | 02:52 |
| _Bryanstein | i have a question | 02:52 |
| _Bryanstein | can i run X on it | 02:52 |
| _Bryanstein | ??? | 02:52 |
| wmarone | X is a fundamental part of MeeGo | 02:52 |
| lolloo | Xterminal | 02:52 |
| lolloo | yep! | 02:52 |
| lolloo | its the core! | 02:52 |
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| _Bryanstein | NO! | 02:53 |
| _Bryanstein | you're just fooling with me! | 02:53 |
| wmarone | http://meego.com/developers/meego-architecture/meego-architecture-layer-view | 02:53 |
| _Bryanstein | wmarone! did you hear? | 02:53 |
| lolloo | haha | 02:53 |
| wmarone | there is lots of information on the official website, most of your questions can be answered there | 02:53 |
| _Bryanstein | meego lets you run a linux flavor on your phone | 02:53 |
| lolloo | yes wmarone | 02:53 |
| _Bryanstein | o | 02:53 |
| _Bryanstein | you know about it? | 02:53 |
| _Bryanstein | can i run this os on my iPad ? | 02:54 |
| lolloo | I hope you all have a great fun and give your feedbacks | 02:54 |
| lolloo | to make this better! | 02:54 |
| _Bryanstein | lolloo | 02:54 |
| _Bryanstein | maybe i can meet up with u at the conference | 02:54 |
| wmarone | _Bryanstein: possibly, good luck figuring out how | 02:54 |
| lolloo | yes . | 02:54 |
| _Bryanstein | wmarone, i dont like your attitude! | 02:54 |
| lolloo | I will be online here | 02:54 |
| _Bryanstein | spoon feed me | 02:55 |
| * _Bryanstein is just a troll | 02:55 | |
| wmarone | not a very interesting one | 02:55 |
| *** _Bryanstein is now known as MrTroll | 02:55 | |
| MrTroll | lol | 02:55 |
| MrTroll | just kidding | 02:55 |
| lolloo | hehehe | 02:55 |
| MrTroll | i am a meego troll | 02:55 |
| MrTroll | :) | 02:55 |
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| MrTroll | cause I love meego! | 02:55 |
| lolloo | hope to see you all! | 02:55 |
| lolloo | me too MrTroll | 02:55 |
| MrTroll | great! | 02:56 |
| MrTroll | lolloo | 02:56 |
| MrTroll | not much action here | 02:56 |
| MrTroll | we should start #ILoveMeego | 02:56 |
| lolloo | hehehe | 02:56 |
| MrTroll | I'll work the North America hours | 02:56 |
| MrTroll | kewl? | 02:57 |
| lolloo | kewl | 02:57 |
| MrTroll | man | 02:57 |
| MrTroll | /join #ilovemeego | 02:58 |
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| MrTroll | waiskevin ! | 02:58 |
| MrTroll | wasikevin! did u hear about meego? | 02:58 |
| DawnFoster | wondering how long I let the bots talk to each other before kicking them :) | 02:58 |
| MrTroll | it's an os for your phone | 02:58 |
| MrTroll | dawnfoster! | 02:59 |
| MrTroll | did u hear about meego? | 02:59 |
| wasikevin | MrTroll, what about meego? | 02:59 |
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| MrTroll | it's an os for your phone | 02:59 |
| MrTroll | for your iphone | 02:59 |
| MrTroll | riot! | 02:59 |
| MrTroll | whats up brother? | 02:59 |
| michaelg|nok | DawnFoster: that's probably enough :) | 02:59 |
| MrTroll | michaelg|nok ! what's up bro | 02:59 |
| MrTroll | did you know meego can run on a coffee maker? | 02:59 |
| lolloo | have fun all! | 02:59 |
| MrTroll | lolloo me too! | 03:00 |
| MrTroll | i run meego on my new dishwasher | 03:00 |
| MrTroll | sometimes, i gotta wash my pussy out | 03:00 |
| MrTroll | so I run, ./dish_wash -vlo | 03:00 |
| MrTroll | oops | 03:00 |
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| MrTroll | fuck | 03:01 |
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| auke | thanks | 03:01 |
| MrTroll | wtf man | 03:01 |
| MrTroll | i love meego | 03:01 |
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| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o auke | 03:01 | |
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| MrTroll | auke blow me | 03:01 |
| MrTroll | you fat fuck | 03:01 |
| wmarone | ... | 03:01 |
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| lolloo | hehehe | 03:01 |
| auke | DawnFoster: setting bans is annyong, but more effective :) | 03:02 |
| alterego | Hah | 03:02 |
| DawnFoster | auke: yeah, I know - it's been a long day :) | 03:02 |
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| Termana | wow | 03:48 |
| Termana | lucky I missed that :p | 03:48 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | http://lwn.net/Articles/413932/ I'm sure you guys are aware of dneary's posting but the comments are worth reading. | 03:57 |
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| spvensko | hi, when i attempt to use yum on a fresh meego install it complains about yum not being found | 04:08 |
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| spvensko | however all of the documentation i can find suggests yum should be installed by default, am i missing something? | 04:08 |
| reverseswing | any guide to install meego in vmware or virtual box | 04:08 |
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| Myrtti | I could've easily lived without this headache I had when I woke up | 10:04 |
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| iekku | Myrtti, I can easily imagine. Selfmade one or ? | 10:05 |
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| Myrtti | iekku: I had two Bulmers on Saturday in sauna, so I doubt it's hangover... | 10:20 |
| Myrtti | atleast it's not gotten to a full blown migraine yet | 10:20 |
| iekku | Myrtti, hope it doesn't go that far, migraine is something you don't hope for even your biggest enemy | 10:21 |
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| Myrtti | I have minor ones couple times every month... best way of avoiding big ones is to stay away from fresh celery | 10:22 |
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| Stskeeps | ~haveameegomeeting | 10:29 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, haveameegomeeting is book at http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo-Meeting_IRC_Schedule , read http://wiki.meego.com/IRC_guidelines#IRC_Meeting_Guidelines and instructions for MeetBot at http://meetbot.debian.net/Manual.html | 10:29 |
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| Ganeshiva | hello world | 10:43 |
| Ganeshiva | any1 here | 10:44 |
| fretron | hi | 10:45 |
| Ganeshiva | is meego available for nokia 5800 | 10:46 |
| Termana | No | 10:46 |
| Ganeshiva | ya is it not possible | 10:46 |
| Myrtti | it's not recommended for daily use for even phones that do support it | 10:46 |
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| Ganeshiva | why is so?? | 10:46 |
| fretron | meego is still at quite earle stage | 10:47 |
| Termana | Because it's still in the oven | 10:47 |
| Ganeshiva | what is the hardware requirement for meego | 10:47 |
| Termana | You don't shout when you're baking something in the oven | 10:47 |
| Termana | Otherwise it goes flat | 10:47 |
| Myrtti | Ganeshiva: easiest phones to put it on are Nokia N900 and I suppose Aava dev device | 10:48 |
| psycho_oreos | the hardware doesn't allow it Ganeshiva | 10:48 |
| Ganeshiva | what is its hardware requirement for meego | 10:48 |
| Myrtti | on N900 it doesn't support for example SIM PIN | 10:48 |
| Termana | Myrtti, Aava isn't a reference device. Plus no consumers have it | 10:48 |
| psycho_oreos | signed sis, poor hardware specs are the two major things as to why meego won't run on it | 10:48 |
| Myrtti | Termana: "I suppose" | 10:49 |
| Termana | isn't any longer* I should say | 10:49 |
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| Ganeshiva | what lang is used for the apps | 10:49 |
| Termana | Ganeshiva, I want to give you an outright answer that no, meego does not and will never work on a Nokia 5800 | 10:49 |
| Termana | But then all the theoretical people will get up my arse again | 10:50 |
| psycho_oreos | C, python, Qt, etc | 10:50 |
| Termana | :p | 10:50 |
| psycho_oreos | if meego worked on other nokia devices apart from NIT, I'm sure this channel will be flooded with symbian users who constantly keep their eye peeled out for meego support | 10:50 |
| Ganeshiva | ya surely | 10:52 |
| psycho_oreos | and very few NIT devices can support meego.. I think mainly n900.. so generally its a good idea for one to look and compare the specs of n900 versus some random symbian powered phone like 5800 | 10:52 |
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| Termana | Ganeshiva, if you can do the following things you can get MeeGo to "run" (not very well) on a 5800: 1) be able to boot the phone from an SD card or w/e (be able to boot you're own OS on it), 2) port the linux kernel to it and 3) port meego to it, including having to recompile everything | 10:52 |
| Myrtti | what I'm interested in though, is WHY you want MeeGo on the 5800? | 10:52 |
| psycho_oreos | you won't be able to make that symbian boot linux kernel | 10:53 |
| johnx | Myrtti, because they have a 5800 and are tired of symbian | 10:53 |
| Myrtti | johnx: tsk, I was looking for their answer ;-) | 10:53 |
| Ganeshiva | i have boot windows 3.1,95,98 already | 10:53 |
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| psycho_oreos | that's a different case | 10:53 |
| Termana | *facepalm* | 10:53 |
| Ganeshiva | It worked somewhat fine | 10:54 |
| johnx | Ganeshiva, ah. emulators? then you should run qemu in win 95 and run meego on it | 10:54 |
| psycho_oreos | lol | 10:54 |
| Termana | johnx, lol | 10:54 |
| * johnx is the king of problem solving | 10:54 | |
| psycho_oreos | it'll be kpanic galore | 10:54 |
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| Ganeshiva | how to boot meego in windows 95 | 10:54 |
| johnx | in qemu | 10:54 |
| * Myrtti facepalms | 10:54 | |
| Stskeeps | now see what you did | 10:54 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:54 |
| johnx | which is another layer of emulation | 10:54 |
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| Myrtti | Ganeshiva: "With Great Difficulty" | 10:55 |
| Ganeshiva | however we shall try it | 10:55 |
| johnx | Stskeeps, uhm, it's a socratic discussion. I'm leading him to enlightenment (or something) | 10:55 |
| Termana | Oh god | 10:55 |
| Myrtti | Ganeshiva: again, why do you want MeeGo on the 5800? | 10:55 |
| mmc | Ganeshiva: how do you boot windows on 5800? | 10:55 |
| Termana | johnx, make it quick! :p | 10:55 |
| psycho_oreos | and with excessively excruciatingly amounts of pain | 10:55 |
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| Ganeshiva | if it works it would be awesome | 10:56 |
| johnx | Ganeshiva, I was mostly kdding with you. running meego in emulation on a fast PC is slower than running it natively on the N900 | 10:56 |
| psycho_oreos | maybe you can start porting it Ganeshiva, afterall you're the one who has 5800 and wants meego ported to it | 10:56 |
| Termana | kempman has the right idea | 10:56 |
| Termana | /quit | 10:56 |
| johnx | Ganeshiva, at this point meego handset works on the N900 and if you want it to work on other hardware you better roll up your sleeves and get hacking | 10:56 |
| Termana | :p | 10:56 |
| psycho_oreos | I'll eat my words if you could hack meego to run on symbian devices like yours | 10:56 |
| * Myrtti gives Ganeshiva an extra helping of coffee and patience | 10:56 | |
| Ganeshiva | is it possible to emulate MeeGO in Virtual machines | 10:57 |
| psycho_oreos | the answer was mentioned above | 10:57 |
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| johnx | Ganeshiva, you'll need to compile qemu from source. do you have a linux desktop? | 10:57 |
| Ganeshiva | ok i ll try it | 10:58 |
| * Myrtti facepalms repeatedly | 10:58 | |
| Ganeshiva | i have dual boot | 10:58 |
| johnx | Ganeshiva, I think this is where to get started then: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Meego_on_Qemu | 10:58 |
| Termana | Myrtti, shall I ring the mental institution for johnx? :P | 10:58 |
| psycho_oreos | and no virtual machines won't work without hardware emulation.. either that or you port the codes directly suited to your 5800's cpu arch.. which if I'm not mistaken would be something like ARM11 | 10:59 |
| johnx | Termana, they'll never put me back in alive! | 10:59 |
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| Ganeshiva | johnx it asks for product id?? | 11:00 |
| Myrtti | "it would be awesome" is the worst reason for selfinflicted pain I've heard of for a while | 11:00 |
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| johnx | Ganeshiva, ah sorry. that was the link for maemo on qemu | 11:01 |
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| johnx | Ganeshiva, looks like no one got meego handset working in qemu yet. how is your C? | 11:02 |
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| * psycho_oreos shakes head repeatedly in dismay as the desperate user seems to be quite clueless how porting is supposed to happen with linux stuff | 11:03 | |
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| Ganeshiva | how is your C? what do you mean?? | 11:03 |
| Myrtti | psycho_oreos: "MAGIC" | 11:03 |
| psycho_oreos | clueless on how porting* | 11:03 |
| Myrtti | no? | 11:03 |
| Bostik | porting? isn't that a method of maturing wine? :) | 11:03 |
| johnx | Ganeshiva, I mean, you're a programmer right? | 11:03 |
| Termana | Wow. Just wow | 11:04 |
| psycho_oreos | Myrtti, that's what they do at Apple :) | 11:04 |
| Ganeshiva | ya know some basics | 11:04 |
| johnx | how much experience do you have with kernel-level C? | 11:04 |
| Myrtti | psycho_oreos: looks like that's needed here too | 11:04 |
| Termana | Yeah, he knows some BASICs | 11:04 |
| Myrtti | now now, don't be mean | 11:04 |
| Ganeshiva | nothing i hope! | 11:04 |
| Myrtti | lolwhat | 11:04 |
| Termana | :P | 11:05 |
| psycho_oreos | Myrtti, too bad it seems like someone has to invite Steve Jobs, maybe you can do it because you wanted MAGIC ;) | 11:05 |
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| Myrtti | psycho_oreos: let me wave my pink feathered shiny magic pen and pinch my eyes and mouth and make a wish | 11:05 |
| Myrtti | nnnngngggghghg | 11:05 |
| johnx | Ganeshiva, you will probably need to write a lot of C code at the kernel level to get MeeGo running on the 5800, or even to get it running in qemu | 11:05 |
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| Myrtti | sorry, E_NOCANDO | 11:06 |
| Ganeshiva | oh, its nice i ll learn a lot by this | 11:06 |
| psycho_oreos | boooo! that's not MAGIC!!! booooOOOOOOOOOooo!!1!!!!11! | 11:06 |
| johnx | (and getting it running in qemu, won't really help get it running on the 5800. it was mostly a joke on my part. sorry if I wasn't clear) | 11:06 |
| johnx | Ganeshiva, great. pick up a good book on C and start there | 11:06 |
| Ganeshiva | titles please | 11:07 |
| Ganeshiva | i ll be back in mins | 11:07 |
| johnx | google: good books on C | 11:07 |
| Termana | Start with "Computer Programming for Dummies" | 11:07 |
| slaine | dear god, what are you doing to that poor chap | 11:07 |
| iekku | oh my | 11:08 |
| psycho_oreos | Ritchie & Kernighan - The C Programming Language (2 Ed) | 11:08 |
| Bostik | K&R, linux kernel development 3rd ed. , ... | 11:08 |
| Myrtti | Ganeshiva: anything from O'Reilly, if they've got "Head First" book on it, then that | 11:08 |
| johnx | slaine, he wants to learn. who am I to stop him. if he has the motivation he'll learn. if not, he might at least understand the complexity | 11:08 |
| johnx | if I wave my hands and tell him "it's too complicated" that won't do any good in the long run | 11:09 |
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| slaine | lol | 11:09 |
| psycho_oreos | Ganeshiva, don't forget to also have a good look at the linux kernel source codes as well.. along with maemo's kernel patches for ARM specific instruction sets that you'll need to port if you want native version | 11:09 |
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| Myrtti | boo, now I want to watch Miyazaki films | 11:10 |
| Myrtti | boo | 11:10 |
| Myrtti | damned hostnames | 11:10 |
| johnx | Myrtti, oooh. that sounds like fun. | 11:10 |
| psycho_oreos | summer wars ftw ;) | 11:10 |
| Myrtti | johnx: been a while since I've seen Nausicaa, 6 months atleast | 11:10 |
| johnx | :D that's a long time to go without Nausicaa | 11:11 |
| Myrtti | Totoro in on 3 month rotate | 11:11 |
| Myrtti | s/in/is/ | 11:11 |
| infobot | Myrtti meant: Totoro is on 3 month rotate | 11:11 |
| johnx | I honestly haven't seen totoro yet | 11:11 |
| psycho_oreos | I have | 11:11 |
| psycho_oreos | grave of the fireflies :) | 11:11 |
| iekku | I call my boss Totoro | 11:12 |
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| Bostik | I probably have all of them | 11:12 |
| psycho_oreos | now that would come as a rude shock after watching it | 11:12 |
| Myrtti | I can't watch that unless it's a sunny nice day and can cuddle with the BF | 11:12 |
| Myrtti | last time I watched it I had nightmares for 4 nights | 11:12 |
| psycho_oreos | grave of the fireflies? heh | 11:12 |
| Bostik | a friend once commented on that one with rather alarming accuracy | 11:13 |
| Myrtti | psycho_oreos: I had just read a book about animal slaughters and saw nightmares of headless chicken running in burning Japanese villages | 11:13 |
| johnx | psycho_oreos, some of us have emotions :) | 11:13 |
| iekku | Myrtti, :D | 11:13 |
| Bostik | "The comic content of watching Schindler's List while chewing glass, but without the helpful salty taste" | 11:13 |
| johnx | Myrtti, and now you're a vegetarian? | 11:13 |
| iekku | johnx, being a vegetarian doesn't need nightmares... | 11:14 |
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| iekku | oops, not going to talk about that in here | 11:15 |
| Myrtti | johnx: I didn't eat chicken for 18 months. Reading the book was because I worked for the local animal rights group for couple of weeks | 11:15 |
| Myrtti | anyway | 11:15 |
| psycho_oreos | Myrtti, seen animal cruelty being recorded but hardly ever had any nightmares.. just constantly weird dreams that made no sense | 11:15 |
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| johnx | psycho_oreos, and the 'psycho' in your nick is totally unrelated, right? | 11:15 |
| iekku | haha | 11:16 |
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| psycho_oreos | Bostik, I've been wanting to watch that Schindler's list again, I used to watch it but I never watched it properly because I was rather immature at the time of watching it with me oldies at home | 11:16 |
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| psycho_oreos | johnx, I'll let you to decide ;) | 11:16 |
| Bostik | psycho_oreos: it's a great film, and it works marvelously in a dark cinema | 11:16 |
| johnx | because sociopath_oreos was too long? or already taken? | 11:16 |
| psycho_oreos | johnx, nah psycho was just better :) short and sweet to the point | 11:17 |
| psycho_oreos | Bostik, yeh I watched it at home however but I guess I'll watch it again if I could still find that VCD | 11:17 |
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| johnx | VCD? awesome. I was halfway to buying a laserdisc player a year or so ago | 11:19 |
| Ganeshiva | I am back now!! | 11:20 |
| psycho_oreos | what you have laserdisks? :) I mean that's how long ago when I last saw it.. back when VCD were the craze in asia | 11:20 |
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| psycho_oreos | DVD were still pipeline dreams back then iirc | 11:21 |
| johnx | Ganeshiva, read the backlog. there were some good books suggested | 11:21 |
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| johnx | psycho_oreos, I frequented a couple used electronics stores :) | 11:21 |
| psycho_oreos | err pipe dreams* | 11:21 |
| psycho_oreos | o.O | 11:21 |
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| psycho_oreos | lol I wonder if laserdisks were to ever be made Bluray, I wonder how many TB will it hold :D probably like at least 80TB | 11:22 |
| johnx | what I loved were the sleeves the discs came in | 11:23 |
| psycho_oreos | in theoretical terms.. and in reality terms maybe close to 5TB | 11:23 |
| psycho_oreos | and the big cardboard boxes that reminds you of the vinyl days | 11:23 |
| Bostik | incidentally I think that Grave of the Fireflies is one of the best cinematic productions ever, it's delivery format just happens to be an animation instead of live actors | 11:23 |
| Ganeshiva | Kernighan_Ritchie_Language_C is nice I have read it once, I have missed few topic, i ll read it | 11:24 |
| psycho_oreos | apparently it was later released as live actor based movie | 11:24 |
| * Myrtti thinks of bunnies and daisies and pink lollipops | 11:25 | |
| Mek | lbt: ping | 11:25 |
| psycho_oreos | or at least live action based movie was based on that anime | 11:25 |
| psycho_oreos | never seen it but would like to see it however | 11:25 |
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| * psycho_oreos has a pink coloured background if that helps :) | 11:25 | |
| Ganeshiva | "<Bostik> K&R, linux kernel development 3rd ed. , ..." what is the author name | 11:26 |
| psycho_oreos | pink with black theme, anime image as wallpaper | 11:26 |
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| Ganeshiva | ya i got it Kochan & Wood , is it Right | 11:27 |
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| johnx | Ganeshiva, nah. that's "unix shell programming" that's pretty different :) | 11:28 |
| Ganeshiva | Y is everyone INactive Suddenly!! | 11:28 |
| johnx | I think it's this: http://www.amazon.com/Linux-Kernel-Development-Robert-Love/dp/0672329468 | 11:28 |
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| johnx | Ganeshiva, patience | 11:29 |
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| Ganeshiva | was i Disconnected before?? | 11:35 |
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| psycho_oreos | you pinged out | 11:36 |
| Ganeshiva | at | 11:36 |
| psycho_oreos | almost 5 minutes ago | 11:36 |
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| Ganeshiva | ok browser crash | 11:37 |
| Ganeshiva | what was my last post before "was i Disconnected before??" | 11:37 |
| Mek | hmm, http://dev.meego.com/community/mailing-lists asks for a username/password | 11:38 |
| psycho_oreos | <Ganeshiva> Y is everyone INactive Suddenly!! | 11:38 |
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| Stskeeps | Mek: lists.meego.com if you don't want to attach it with user | 11:38 |
| Ganeshiva | ok ok, after that i was speaking to myself for some time | 11:38 |
| Ganeshiva | it was a browser prob | 11:39 |
| Mek | Stskeeps: then the link on http://meego.com/developers/getting-started should maybe be fixed? | 11:39 |
| psycho_oreos | <johnx> Ganeshiva, patience <--- last said to you before you pinged out.. no additional messages for you | 11:39 |
| Stskeeps | Mek: well, possibly | 11:39 |
| Stskeeps | Mek: file a bug please | 11:39 |
| Ganeshiva | what a pitty!! | 11:40 |
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| Ganeshiva | lots of people | 11:42 |
| Ganeshiva | iN | 11:42 |
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| Myrtti | psycho_oreos: you asked for it, clearly... http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/5160991016/ | 11:45 |
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| psycho_oreos | Myrtti, I actually meant my desktop: http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/1038/mineax.png | 11:50 |
| lorp | hi guys | 11:51 |
| lorp | s | 11:52 |
| Myrtti | psycho_oreos: and I showed you mine ;-) | 11:52 |
| johnx | psycho_oreos, please tell me that's gkrellm? | 11:52 |
| lorp | I would like to play with qt quick on meego | 11:52 |
| psycho_oreos | johnx, on the left yes | 11:53 |
| lorp | is the best approach to use the meego sdk + qt-creator + chroot? | 11:53 |
| psycho_oreos | Myrtti, slight misunderstanding but I guess we're even heh | 11:53 |
| lorp | my target is meego on n900 | 11:53 |
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| Ganeshiva | i ll be back soon | 12:00 |
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| lbt | Mek: or here | 12:00 |
| Mek | lbt: I was told by various people to contact you for access to the meego OBS | 12:00 |
| lcuk | lbt, add me also if you would be so kind :) | 12:01 |
| lbt | Mek: community one | 12:02 |
| lbt | I need meego username | 12:03 |
| lbt | lcuk: done | 12:03 |
| fcrozat | Stskeeps: thanks for the hint for the back cover for 1.1 on n900 yesterday, I've enhanced the wiki about it | 12:03 |
| Mek | lbt: mkruisselbrink | 12:04 |
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| lcuk | \o/ ta lbt | 12:04 |
| lorp | lbt: any chance you can add me as well? meego username: lorenzopolidori | 12:04 |
| lbt | all done... try | 12:05 |
| Mek | how do I try? | 12:06 |
| lorp | thanks lbt | 12:06 |
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| lorp | lbt: could you give us the wiki page with the instructions on how to use the community OBS? | 12:07 |
| lorp | I remember there was one under construction... | 12:07 |
| Mek | http://wiki.meego.com/Build_Infrastructure/Community_Builder ? that doesn't seem to even include a hostname... | 12:07 |
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| lbt | lorp: it's a wiki.... ;) a *community* wiki.... you have a *community* account .... | 12:08 |
| lorp | Mek: yes it was that one | 12:08 |
| * lbt wonders if he's subtle enough | 12:08 | |
| lcuk | lbt, build.meego.com obs is not giving access to view status etc | 12:10 |
| lcuk | :( | 12:10 |
| Mek | lbt: so where do I access the community obs instance? | 12:10 |
| lorp | lbt: you mean rool up your sleeves? ;) | 12:10 |
| Mek | the wiki seems to be missing that basic bit of information... | 12:10 |
| lorp | it was this what I meant, just a little info would help to start... | 12:11 |
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| lbt | at the moment... cbuild.meego.com... soon build.pub.meego.com | 12:11 |
| lbt | https | 12:11 |
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| Mek | lbt: and username&password should be the same as on meego.com? as I get authentication failed... | 12:13 |
| lbt | how long ago did you create your meego account (or change the password) | 12:14 |
| Mek | a long time ago... | 12:14 |
| lbt | OK (we don't sync yet... blame mrshaver) | 12:14 |
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| lcuk | on cbuild i can login | 12:15 |
| lcuk | lbt, should i go via other path for build. | 12:15 |
| lbt | yes | 12:15 |
| Mek | lbt: hmm, actually on meego.com I can only login with my email address, not my username either... | 12:16 |
| lbt | ah... OK ... | 12:16 |
| lcuk | \o ok lbt, ta on both counts | 12:16 |
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| lbt | lorp: can you login | 12:17 |
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| lorp | I can't using my meego account... | 12:17 |
| lbt | grumble | 12:18 |
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| lorp | on meego.com I can login, but I can't on cbuild.meego.com.... | 12:21 |
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| lorp | same user and password | 12:21 |
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| * Mek can login on meego.com with e-mail address and password, but not username and password; and can't login at all on cbuild.meego.com | 12:22 | |
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| lbt | Mek, lorp go to meego.com http://meego.com/users/me and click edit... then, in the url what's the number | 12:30 |
| Mek | lbt: 16052 | 12:30 |
| lbt | go away you don't exist | 12:31 |
| lbt | :D | 12:31 |
| Mek | lol | 12:31 |
| * lcuk giggles | 12:32 | |
| Myrtti | I'm apparently 404 (Page Not Found) | 12:32 |
| lorp | lbt: 16572 | 12:33 |
| lbt | you are too new | 12:34 |
| lbt | seriously... your accounts are old? | 12:34 |
| lorp | Myrtti: instead of me put your username | 12:34 |
| Myrtti | lorp: no kidding. | 12:34 |
| Myrtti | (just teasing) | 12:34 |
| lorp | my account is quite new | 12:34 |
| lbt | ah, http://meego.com/user/me ... sorry | 12:34 |
| lbt | no s | 12:34 |
| Mek | not sure how old my account is... | 12:34 |
| X-Fade | lorp: We have a 60 day quarantine ;) | 12:35 |
| lbt | 21st October | 12:35 |
| Mek | ah, no, my account isn't old, sorry | 12:35 |
| lbt | was the cutoff | 12:35 |
| Mek | I created it after that date indeed | 12:35 |
| lorp | ok to kick off the new comers? | 12:35 |
| Aard | lbt: just tried, can't login on cbuild either :) | 12:35 |
| lbt | no... 'cos mrshaver needs a kicking ;) | 12:35 |
| X-Fade | lorp: Just kidding. | 12:35 |
| lbt | Aard: did you bribe me yet? | 12:36 |
| X-Fade | It is just because we don't get automatic updates of the user base yet. | 12:36 |
| Aard | do I have to? | 12:36 |
| lbt | Mek, lorp... I suggest you complain to the user mailing list | 12:36 |
| lbt | Aard: oh yes | 12:36 |
| lbt | beg!! | 12:36 |
| lbt | bwahahahaa | 12:36 |
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| X-Fade | Or offer lbt beers at the conference. Beer credit that is. | 12:36 |
| Aard | I'm allowing you to go shopping without spending your money :p | 12:36 |
| lbt | (cider) | 12:36 |
| lcuk | lbt - mine let me in? did i already have an account setup? | 12:37 |
| lbt | lcuk: maybe | 12:37 |
| X-Fade | Ehm yeah, cider.. | 12:37 |
| * lcuk mustv offered cider in the past | 12:37 | |
| lbt | Aard: meego.com account ? | 12:37 |
| lorp | guinness cider | 12:37 |
| Stskeeps | i take liquorice as bribes | 12:37 |
| Aard | lbt: aard | 12:37 |
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| lbt | try | 12:37 |
| lcuk | Stskeeps, laces or ribbons? | 12:37 |
| Aard | \o/ | 12:37 |
| X-Fade | I have to warn that I just imported a new 'current' so builds will take a while to be scheduled. | 12:38 |
| Stskeeps | lcuk: anything | 12:38 |
| Mek | so, since I created my account after october 21st, I can't get access? or what should I do? | 12:38 |
| lbt | Mek, lorp ... I was serious about the mailing list complaint thing... we've been bugging them for *months* to write a 30 minute sqldump|ssh cronjob | 12:38 |
| lcuk | lol Stskeeps :) shall keep eyes out | 12:38 |
| lbt | I'm am totally pissed about it | 12:39 |
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| lorp | which mailing list? which one exactly? | 12:39 |
| lbt | mmm community | 12:40 |
| lbt | but you need to subscribe... and ... ask in a positive way :) | 12:40 |
| lbt | now... real work .... l8r | 12:40 |
| lorp | ok | 12:40 |
| Myrtti | Stskeeps: salmiakki, red or normal? | 12:42 |
| Stskeeps | Myrtti: well, i shift between strong liqourice and sweet-like liquorice. can only get sweet-like liquorice here in poland :P | 12:43 |
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| Myrtti | I like you :-) | 12:46 |
| timakima | have to say, i misread that line as "liquor" at least two times :) | 12:46 |
| Stskeeps | timakima: liquor works for bribes too | 12:46 |
| pexi | any1 going to the meego wrt workshop? | 12:48 |
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| Myrtti | tom yum gai for lunch | 12:49 |
| Myrtti | omnomnom | 12:49 |
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| thresh | hi | 13:36 |
| thresh | anyone tried booting meego on his/her n900? | 13:36 |
| thresh | I can see the kernel booting fine, but after that only a black screen with backlight :-) | 13:37 |
| thresh | oh here it is, took 5 minutes to boot :) | 13:37 |
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| stylesen | Is there a place where we can get all tar.gz files inside the distfiles directory to setup dev environment for madde | 13:42 |
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| stylesen | the README says "Location of these files is discussed elsewhere" for the distfiles | 13:46 |
| stylesen | can someone explain where to get it? | 13:46 |
| thresh | yeah well I thought meego will run faster on n900 :D | 13:47 |
| Stskeeps | thresh: it will, once we get the new gfx drivers in and actually try to optimize :) | 13:47 |
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| thresh | Stskeeps: good luck! | 13:48 |
| Stskeeps | thresh: saw thp's video of the new drivers? | 13:48 |
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| Stskeeps | thresh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWtMLs3j09U&feature=player_embedded | 13:49 |
| thresh | nope, will look now | 13:49 |
| thresh | oh yeah I did :) | 13:49 |
| thresh | looks waaay better :) | 13:49 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 13:49 |
| Stskeeps | the problem was that for 1.1, these drivers were still unstable | 13:49 |
| thresh | oh I see, i've been using 1.1.80 | 13:50 |
| Stskeeps | we found the cause but it is caused by a change in xorg, so we need to fix our driver itself | 13:50 |
| vilvo | meego-qa-tools weekly meeting in 5mins at #meego-meeting. welcome! | 13:54 |
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| kt_ | Hi, I realize this is quite off-topic but I have a small very simple Qt question: When I have made a GUI using the Qt designer how do i then get pointers to the GUI objects such as check-boxes? I only know the names of the control objects, for instance checkBox_3 | 13:56 |
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| andre | kt_: -> #qt ? | 13:58 |
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| kt_ | andre, there is not much activity at qt right now it seems | 14:06 |
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| andre | kt_: the identifier will be the same. i.e. checkBox_3. a good opportunity to use sensible names ;-} | 14:08 |
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| kt_ | andre, thank you for you answer but I did not fully understand it. I am thinking that I need to do something like this: QCheckBox * pCB = somefunction("checkBox_3"); | 14:12 |
| kt_ | pCB->setEnabled(false); | 14:12 |
| andre | kt_: no, this already exists in the ui structure, so it's something lie QCheckBox *checkBox = whereYourUiIs->checkBox_3. | 14:14 |
| andre | or even whereYourUiIs->checkBox_3->setEnabled(false) | 14:14 |
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| kt_ | andre, thank you, i just had to figure out that I should use the Ui::MainWindow *ui instead of "this" | 14:18 |
| stylesen | where can I download xtar version 1.9 ? | 14:20 |
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| andre | kt_: -> #qt, and yes, 'ui' whould then probably be 'whereYourUiIs' | 14:26 |
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| misterioz | hi everyone | 14:39 |
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| misterioz | I have msi netbook with Intel wireless chipset | 14:40 |
| misterioz | I have no wireless connection although the module iwlagn is loaded | 14:40 |
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| CosmoHill | http://www.speedtest.net/result/1023178468.png :D | 14:41 |
| misterioz | does anyone have this problem | 14:41 |
| misterioz | ? | 14:41 |
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| misterioz | anyone? | 14:54 |
| fretron | maybe | 14:55 |
| CosmoHill | is your wifi card supported by meego? | 14:55 |
| misterioz | it's supported by the kernel, don't know bout meego | 14:56 |
| CosmoHill | it should be supported then | 14:57 |
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| misterioz | in Networks I have only wired network | 14:59 |
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| CosmoHill | i think there is a switch somewhere to enable wifi | 15:00 |
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| tobis87 | Stskeeps: Hi, Aes hardware driver does not crash the device anymore after applying this patch : http://pastebin.com/PMt2j1Hs | 15:01 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 15:01 |
| tobis87 | I don't know if these patches do apply against 2.6.35, http://marc.info/?l=linux-omap&m=128231189301197&w=2 http://marc.info/?l=linux-omap&m=128231189601206&w=2 | 15:01 |
| misterioz | CosmoHill: ok, I removed the module and tried modprobe again and the dmesg | 15:02 |
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| tobis87 | But here is my latest full version of the driver as standalone: http://pastebin.com/nctZFLSQ | 15:03 |
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| misterioz | I'm getting request for firmware file 'iwwifi-6050-4.ucode failed. | 15:03 |
| misterioz | ok so I need a firmware, I'll download the firmware and test it and update you how everything went | 15:05 |
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| misterioz | CosmoHill: ok, I can confirm that the wifi is now working | 15:11 |
| CosmoHill | yay | 15:11 |
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| misterioz | I downloaded the firmware from intellinuxwireless.org and put the firmware in /lib/firmware and that was it | 15:13 |
| psycho_oreos | you meant the microcode | 15:13 |
| misterioz | psycho_oreos: yes | 15:14 |
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| pupnik | http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Google-Android-OS-x86-Atom,10733.html Intel Porting Android for x86 Notebooks, Tablets | 15:15 |
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| jarkkom | didn't Aava already do port of android 2.1 to atom? | 15:17 |
| CosmoHill | the Aava does run Android | 15:18 |
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| shargir | lastlog | 16:17 |
| shargir | menu | 16:17 |
| Myrtti | fail | 16:17 |
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| pupnik | < seedeeoh> We're all soon to be multi-millionaires. Unfortunately. | 16:50 |
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| majeru | hi, is libmeegotouch supported/included in meego 1.1? | 17:09 |
| thiago | no/yes | 17:09 |
| majeru | ok, so we should avoid it in new applications, right? | 17:10 |
| thiago | correct | 17:10 |
| majeru | and stick to plain qt | 17:10 |
| majeru | ok, thanks thiago | 17:10 |
| thiago | qt quick | 17:10 |
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| majeru | this app is not meant to look fancy, I think qwidget will do | 17:11 |
| thiago | not really | 17:11 |
| thiago | use qt quick | 17:11 |
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| majeru | :) | 17:11 |
| Stskeeps | vilvo: got a good bugzilla location for that FEA#? | 17:11 |
| vilvo | Development Tools -> meego-qa-reports | 17:12 |
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| Stskeeps | thanks | 17:12 |
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| lcuk | thiago, is qt quick supported on all platforms that native qt is? | 17:12 |
| thiago | yes | 17:12 |
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| majeru | thiago: the thing this is an already implemented/work in progress application written using meegotouch | 17:13 |
| lcuk | does it follow the native style correctly? | 17:13 |
| thiago | it's just JavaScript + Graphics View | 17:14 |
| lcuk | like using windows widgets and stuff | 17:14 |
| thiago | majeru: then continue, but note that it won't be MeeGo compliant. You may need to rewrite it later. | 17:14 |
| majeru | thiago: so porting it to plain qt would be easier than to qml | 17:14 |
| lcuk | "libmeegotouch" != meego compliant. hmm | 17:14 |
| lcuk | something about that sounds wrong | 17:14 |
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| Stskeeps | welcome to new developer strategies.. | 17:15 |
| lcuk | can't quite put my finger on it | 17:15 |
| thiago | why? it's just like connman | 17:15 |
| Aard | lcuk: it's a more recent development. | 17:15 |
| thiago | it's a middleware, something for the platform to use and share code | 17:15 |
| thiago | like X too | 17:15 |
| thiago | apps shouldn't be using it directly | 17:15 |
| Stskeeps | vilvo: bug 9827 | 17:16 |
| _MeeGoBot_ | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9827 enh, Undecided, ---, ville.p.ilvonen, NEW, Include links to testcase in report results | 17:16 |
| lcuk | Aard, wheres the documentation then | 17:17 |
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| vilvo | Stskeeps: thanks, we'll look after that bug 9827 | 17:45 |
| Mat_Matan | hi | 17:45 |
| _MeeGoBot_ | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9827 enh, Undecided, ---, ville.p.ilvonen, NEW, Include links to testcase in report results | 17:45 |
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| Myrtti | mmmm hot mint chocolate | 17:47 |
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| pupnik | Android Mythbusters! http://laforge.gnumonks.org/weblog/2009/11/04/#20091104-android_mythbusters Excellent slide presentation including what is missing (from a linux perspective) from android OS | 17:59 |
| Stskeeps | pupnik: yes, that's ancient | 17:59 |
| pupnik | mhm | 17:59 |
| pupnik | but 'meegons' might want to skim it for an overview | 18:00 |
| pupnik | if they don't know it yet, hence the post | 18:00 |
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| qgil | Dear #meego fellows: those of you going to the MeeGo Conference, would you mind volunteering a couple of hours connecting this IRC room with the Dublin events? Add yourselves to http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Conference_2010/Volunteering | 18:28 |
| qgil | thanks! | 18:28 |
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| Stskeeps | ah, i was wondering about if it was here that would be mentioned on the live streams :) | 18:30 |
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| Stskeeps | "if you have a N900 along, you can do this job" ;) | 18:31 |
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| dneary | DawnFoster, "Category:Die die die" would have been better :( | 18:34 |
| andre__ | or "DeleteMe" | 18:34 |
| DawnFoster | dneary: that would have been more fun :) | 18:35 |
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| borco | hi | 18:35 |
| dneary | DawnFoster, Not to late to change... | 18:35 |
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| dneary | andre__, Ideally it should follow wiki naming conventions. | 18:36 |
| dneary | "Category:Delete me" | 18:36 |
| andre__ | dneary, which are documented at...? | 18:36 |
| dneary | andre__, Wiki contribution guidelines | 18:36 |
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| andre__ | ah. thanks | 18:37 |
| dneary | Which I would like to have linked from every edit (like I did for the Maemo wiki: http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Dneary#.22Edit_help.22_extension) | 18:37 |
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| dneary | andre__, Although, the wiki contribution guidelines page seems to be overstating the "how to edit a wiki page" and understating the "how to do it right" bits nowadays | 18:38 |
| dneary | I'd like to see the "Style" section get moved to the top | 18:38 |
| andre__ | I agree | 18:38 |
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| dneary | Esp. since "Help:Editing" works now | 18:40 |
| dneary | DawnFoster, Had you noticed that I imported the wiki help files? | 18:40 |
| DawnFoster | dneary: I have a hard time with that page because it merges guidelines, how to and style in a single page | 18:40 |
| DawnFoster | I wanted the guidelines at the top | 18:40 |
| dneary | Yes | 18:40 |
| DawnFoster | to be consistent with all of the other guidelines | 18:40 |
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| dneary | I just moved them before the "how to" section :) | 18:41 |
| DawnFoster | feel free to reorganize - I just don't have time to think about it | 18:41 |
| DawnFoster | cool, thanks | 18:41 |
| dneary | Nor do I, really | 18:41 |
| DawnFoster | I did notice you imported the help, thank you very much! | 18:41 |
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| Stskeeps | DawnFoster: i assume you're going to be fairly busy during the conference, should i coordinate getting ops and such for the people volunteering to moderate here while there's live streams? | 18:43 |
| DawnFoster | yes, please! | 18:43 |
| Stskeeps | k | 18:43 |
| DawnFoster | that would be a huge help | 18:43 |
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| Stskeeps | i can't promise to be attentive enough on irc so i'd rather coordinate than moderate :P | 18:44 |
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| Stskeeps | DawnFoster: the QA guys agreed to set up an IRC channel for their work today, so i set the usual settings on #meego-qa for them | 18:57 |
| Stskeeps | (logging, you added with founder access, etc) | 18:58 |
| DawnFoster | Stskeeps: perfect, thank you! | 18:58 |
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| Stskeeps | and now on to wash some mushrooms.. | 18:58 |
| Stskeeps | brb | 18:58 |
| dneary | DawnFoster, You might also want to outline your volunteer needs for the unconference | 19:00 |
| dneary | Stskeeps, You know about #meego-qa-tools already? | 19:01 |
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| timakima | dneary: #meego-qa-tools is about test tools development, i guess #meego-qa is more generally about meego quality | 19:06 |
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| Stskeeps | dneary: yes, it was stated in meeting (check minutes/logs) they wanted to keep that seperate | 19:14 |
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| lbt | dneary: I am really disappointed at the way meego people hide in dark corners :) | 19:17 |
| CosmoHill | but I like my corner | 19:17 |
| lbt | exception/rule | 19:17 |
| * lbt ducks | 19:17 | |
| CosmoHill | seriously tho, there are some people we only ever see in meetings | 19:17 |
| lbt | they hang out in irc in rooms with 10 people and claim to be "working in the open" | 19:18 |
| lbt | yeah... :) | 19:18 |
| lbt | anyhow... I've given up on that one | 19:18 |
| CosmoHill | to me, "working in the open" means working on a laptop in the middle of a park | 19:19 |
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| Stskeeps | CosmoHill: i've worked at some point in the middle of a big grass field with my n900 in my hand | 19:19 |
| CosmoHill | lbt: you'd like little updates on how things are going | 19:19 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:19 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i'm starting to realize that i can't keep tabs on everything, but we do need a 'memo' culture | 19:19 |
| dneary | latelate | 19:20 |
| dneary | lbt, Which dark corners? | 19:20 |
| CosmoHill | Stskeeps: were you tweeting "hey, the grass really is greener over here" | 19:20 |
| dneary | lbt, I would like this to be the channel where everyone joins, forgets about it, but is pingable | 19:20 |
| lbt | #meego-packaging springs to mind | 19:20 |
| CosmoHill | Stskeeps: maybe people can add things to the memo throughout the day and it gets issued once a week / day | 19:20 |
| leinir | dneary: basically yeah, that's how i view this channel too... | 19:21 |
| dneary | That way when someone goes "qgil: ping?" | 19:21 |
| * leinir would love to see that on people's employment contracts :P | 19:21 | |
| CosmoHill | dneary: like a switchboard of channels | 19:21 |
| dneary | They will get a nitification, and know people are looking for them | 19:21 |
| dneary | Even if they aren't available right away & don't ping back for hours | 19:21 |
| lbt | yeah... | 19:21 |
| dneary | qgil, Don't worry - I'm not looking for you, really :) | 19:21 |
| lbt | rofl | 19:21 |
| leinir | No requirement to actively take part in every discussion on whatever random crap happens here, but to actually be in here | 19:21 |
| dneary | Anyway, late, gone. Buy! | 19:22 |
| CosmoHill | my tab goes red if my name is set off and the message also pops up in the corner :) | 19:22 |
| Kaadlajk | having huge channel with people not related to your dark corner would not be good either :) | 19:22 |
| lbt | no... but I'd like there to be less places | 19:22 |
| dneary | I think we should grass-roots create the "Category:Die die die" category for pages to be deleted | 19:22 |
| CosmoHill | there was someone this morning who came in and said "damn this channel is bigger than I thought' and left | 19:22 |
| dneary | lbt, Yeah, I said the same when we started (and so did DawnFoster) | 19:22 |
| lbt | dneary: well, mea culpa | 19:23 |
| dneary | CosmoHill, It's also a bit chattier than I'd like for it to be useful | 19:23 |
| Stskeeps | it had the opposite effect of less people working in the open though, but we had this discussion efore.. | 19:23 |
| lbt | I wanted to start lots of liitle chans | 19:23 |
| lbt | this chan is not-for-work | 19:23 |
| lbt | it's the coffee area | 19:23 |
| dneary | Stskeeps, You need a middle ground | 19:23 |
| DawnFoster | lbt: we've started a few more channels: http://wiki.meego.com/Community_communication | 19:23 |
| lbt | I'd almost prefer less chans but unfocused | 19:24 |
| CosmoHill | lbt: see I'm the opposite | 19:24 |
| dneary | A place where people can come to work, where it's quiet, and another place where everyone knows where they are, but they ignore it mostly | 19:24 |
| lbt | so "this is noisy -> #meego-work1" | 19:24 |
| CosmoHill | I like the one channel where it all happens | 19:24 |
| DawnFoster | the reality was that without them people we just creating them privately and keeping them secret | 19:24 |
| dneary | Like twitter vs a blog | 19:24 |
| DawnFoster | at least this way we have a little more visibility | 19:24 |
| CosmoHill | then again Im used to smaller channels | 19:24 |
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| lbt | DawnFoster: I notice meego-packaging isn't on there | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | well, not registered either | 19:25 |
| * Stskeeps makes mental note to talk to a staffer | 19:25 | |
| lbt | I *do* understand it though ... my team stays on jabber | 19:25 |
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| Stskeeps | we closed the meego-arm jabber forcibly | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:25 |
| lcuk | strong arm tactics? | 19:26 |
| lbt | groan | 19:26 |
| lbt | I really need to kick them harder but we have internal work too which kinda has to be there | 19:26 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 19:26 |
| Stskeeps | the half-way public things are difficult | 19:26 |
| lbt | <cough> harmattan email | 19:26 |
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| CosmoHill | facebook has moved to jabber | 19:27 |
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| iekku | didn't get that working | 19:27 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i wonder how many in IT had a heartattack over that one | 19:27 |
| lbt | <grin> | 19:28 |
| timakima | do people in IT management generally have a heart? :) | 19:28 |
| CosmoHill | you're thinking of customer support | 19:29 |
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| lcuk | hey Noobmonk3y \o | 19:41 |
| Noobmonk3y | hey lcuky! | 19:41 |
| Noobmonk3y | 4 days, still no qtmobility working :( | 19:42 |
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| Noobmonk3y | what i dont get, is no one else seems to have the same problem :| | 19:45 |
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| lcuk | hm Noobmonk3y what is up | 19:45 |
| Noobmonk3y | same problem, whenever i add qtmobility lines it gives me the yellow squiggles (iin this case file not found) - http://www.screencast.com/users/noobmonkey/folders/Jing/media/fbf202a8-dc73-4dc4-ac80-bbe4a8f684f9 | 19:46 |
| Noobmonk3y | i've tried everything that google will throw at me | 19:46 |
| Noobmonk3y | just doesnt seem to like qtmobility | 19:47 |
| lcuk | hm | 19:47 |
| Noobmonk3y | even a fresh project from QT .... | 19:47 |
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| Noobmonk3y | have tried 3rd party fixes like this -> http://qt-mobility.blogspot.com/2010/01/installing-qt-mobility-on-windows-7.html | 19:47 |
| Noobmonk3y | even though it's old :P | 19:47 |
| Noobmonk3y | have uninstalled all - reinstalled started again, nothing | 19:47 |
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| lcuk | Noobmonk3y, which sdk are you installing from | 19:51 |
| Noobmonk3y | Nokia QT SDK | 19:51 |
| lcuk | version | 19:51 |
| lcuk | infact, url where you just regot the latest | 19:51 |
| Noobmonk3y | 2.01 | 19:51 |
| Noobmonk3y | http://qt.nokia.com/downloads | 19:52 |
| Noobmonk3y | http://www.forum.nokia.com/Develop/Qt/ | 19:52 |
| Noobmonk3y | tried both lol | 19:52 |
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| corecode | aloahe | 21:05 |
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| Navegador | Hi | 21:11 |
| corecode | if i flash the meego kernel on my n900, will i be able to use maemo still? | 21:12 |
| Stskeeps | don't flash, just load | 21:12 |
| Navegador | Just logged in to get some info on running Meego on a GMA500 netbook, just read the wiki and vgrade's comments. Any news on that front? | 21:12 |
| corecode | Stskeeps: what do you mean? | 21:12 |
| Stskeeps | corecode: use flasher-3.5 -l -k vmlinuz -b, don't use -f | 21:13 |
| corecode | ah | 21:13 |
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| corecode | what will that do? | 21:13 |
| auke | hurt a kitten | 21:13 |
| Stskeeps | load the kernel into memory, leaving maemo intact | 21:13 |
| Stskeeps | and hurt a kitten, yes | 21:13 |
| auke | :) | 21:13 |
| auke | Navegador: sorry, no news on that front. | 21:13 |
| corecode | that happens while i'm still running maemo? | 21:13 |
| corecode | can i do that from maemo as well? | 21:13 |
| Stskeeps | no, have to use a pc or follow the u-boot dual boot guide | 21:14 |
| corecode | okay | 21:14 |
| corecode | thanks | 21:14 |
| Navegador | Oh well. | 21:14 |
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| corecode | would you advise me to use the 1.1 handset image, or should i try a more recent snapshot? | 21:14 |
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| Navegador | is it at all possible, even if it takes some serious tinkering, to run meego on a GMA500-based device? | 21:15 |
| Navegador | Or are we back to square 1? | 21:15 |
| Stskeeps | corecode: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/Dual_Boot | 21:15 |
| corecode | Stskeeps: much obliged | 21:15 |
| corecode | uh there is 1.3? | 21:16 |
| corecode | heh | 21:16 |
| auke | Navegador: the same tinkering steps that were possible with moblin might still work, but I have not been following it for a while | 21:16 |
| auke | it's not looking good | 21:16 |
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| Stskeeps | Navegador: it's remotely possible to get something working with the emgd drivers if you downgrade to xorg and other libraries to meego 1.0 base, but then it's really no longer meego :P | 21:16 |
| auke | basically, yes | 21:17 |
| Stskeeps | ran handset ux and netbook ux quite well, but yeah.. | 21:18 |
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| Navegador | @auke: Thanks for the replies! It sucks though that a Nokia-Intel OS will run on a bunch of netbooks but not on the Nokia-Intel one! | 21:24 |
| Stskeeps | Navegador: gma500's a nightmare for everybody involved, yeah | 21:25 |
| Navegador | Stskeeps: Hehe you can say that again | 21:26 |
| Navegador | Anyway thanks for the replies. Back to sucky Ubuntu support I guess. | 21:27 |
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| Navegador | Or Windows 7 (argh!) | 21:27 |
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| Stskeeps | Navegador: well, i suppose you can grab meego 1.0 and drop in the EMGD release manually.. search forum.meego.com for booklet | 21:28 |
| auke | Navegador: we're not happy with the status ourselves, sorry | 21:28 |
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| * qgil is really impatient knowing why 1000 people registered to the MeeGo Conference in 2010 and whether they will really shows up (from the "Personal IRC Confessions" series) | 21:31 | |
| qgil | I mean impatient to know... | 21:32 |
| Stskeeps | qgil: wasn't it like 800 limit at some point? | 21:32 |
| qgil | at some point yes Stskeeps | 21:32 |
| thiago_home | I don't think more than 600 will show up | 21:32 |
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| qgil | and 600 before that some point Stskeeps | 21:32 |
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| X-Fade | Well it is already a big step from the 400+ we saw last year in Amsterdam ;) | 21:32 |
| iekku | i don't have enough money and company doesn't pay... | 21:33 |
| Stskeeps | as long as there's enough food.. | 21:33 |
| qgil | X-Fade: yes, but last year Maemo had a stable platform, a product launched... | 21:33 |
| thiago_home | the N900 was announced... | 21:34 |
| X-Fade | qgil: True, but now we have Engadget hype.. | 21:34 |
| qgil | These 1000 with the current platfrm, SDK and products out already shows the exponential growth that MeeGo imples vs Maemo+Moblin | 21:34 |
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| qgil | X-Fade: this is why I start wondering about the 1000 - when I look there I don't see the kind of people that would fly to Dublin just because Engadget buzz | 21:35 |
| qgil | (and in any case the best and most optimistic MeeGo buzz can't compare to e.g. Android buzz90 | 21:35 |
| Stskeeps | qgil: ask how many hotel bookings were made? | 21:35 |
| Stskeeps | that should give some kind of indication | 21:35 |
| * javispedro the other day reviewed some of the names and found some interesting ones | 21:35 | |
| Stskeeps | we're past cut-off so | 21:35 |
| qgil | I think 500-600 and all are booked | 21:35 |
| X-Fade | qgil: They are not all coming just because they like to see dublin either :) | 21:35 |
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| qgil | javispedro - define interesting btw it will be interesting seeing *you* again :) | 21:36 |
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| javispedro | qgil: people last time I saw was during palmos days :) | 21:37 |
| X-Fade | But yeah no big product releases with MeeGo yet. Maybe people expect there to be some surpirses. | 21:37 |
| Stskeeps | javispedro: i still think it's bloody interesting that webos has some bits linked to qt4.6 | 21:38 |
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| javispedro | Stskeeps: I was surprised too. Then again this was 2.0, which supposedly started development far ago. | 21:39 |
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| qgil | X-Fade: the funny thing with MeeGo is that basically nobody can know if there will be surprises for sure or not | 21:41 |
| X-Fade | qgil: 'Problem' with our registration is that it is free. | 21:41 |
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| * thiago_home expecting surprises in the form of devices | 21:41 | |
| RST38h | moo Stskeeps | 21:42 |
| Stskeeps | moo RST38h | 21:42 |
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| Stskeeps | javispedro: how's webos'es SDK situation? | 21:43 |
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| qgil | X-Fade: free registration combined with limited capacity might be a problem at some point, yes | 21:43 |
| javispedro | Stskeeps: still same, no hints of native Qt apps. | 21:43 |
| Stskeeps | javispedro: i meant like, in terms of developer perception of it | 21:44 |
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| X-Fade | qgil: Yeah, there is no commitment. No problem when you register and don't come. | 21:44 |
| X-Fade | There are these all you can eat sushi restaurants that have solved that issue. You can order as much as you like, but if you don't eat it, you pay for it :) | 21:45 |
| * lbt wonders if he's entitled to any freebie devices.... since Nokia's 9 days overdue with a contract it means I'm not technically employed by them at the moment ;) | 21:45 | |
| javispedro | Stskeeps: well, I've not read many rantings about it save for the usual "it's javascript". IMHO documentations is on the level of Maemo's (aka not impressive) | 21:45 |
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| * lbt thinks he'll avoid the post for the rest of the week | 21:45 | |
| RST38h | Maemo docs are mostly repackages gnome/etc docs | 21:46 |
| RST38h | can't have the same in web os, right? | 21:46 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: ah, it's that time of year | 21:46 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: time to make big money on consulting while it lasts | 21:46 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:46 |
| lbt | hehe | 21:47 |
| qgil | lbt: do you need an N900??? | 21:47 |
| lbt | I need an SD card with meego on it ;) | 21:47 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: have you even tried meego yet? :P | 21:47 |
| lbt | 2 actually :) | 21:47 |
| lbt | nope :( | 21:48 |
| lbt | every waking second goes into infra | 21:48 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 21:48 |
| Stskeeps | that's commitment :) | 21:48 |
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| qgil | lbt: I'll remember this the next time you embrace on a time.consuming email discussion ;) | 21:48 |
| lbt | heh... it's passion! | 21:48 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: you did notice we moved from mer to meego, right? just checking .. ;) | 21:49 |
| qgil | and for me it's... lunchtime now ;) | 21:49 |
| * lbt glances up.... oh... | 21:49 | |
| javispedro | RST38h: not only repackages, there's some main guide; but for a complete reference you basically look up into clearly autogenerated docs. | 21:49 |
| lbt | maybe I'd better not take that T-shirt then | 21:49 |
| Stskeeps | i'm planning to take my red tshirt | 21:50 |
| RST38h | javoispedro: not unusual nowadays :( | 21:50 |
| Stskeeps | at least for the sunday part | 21:50 |
| lbt | barcelona :) | 21:50 |
| * lbt has a meego t-shirt already \o/ | 21:50 | |
| CosmoHill | :o | 21:51 |
| lbt | I want to see if Valterri has a MeeGo tatoo ;) | 21:51 |
| * javispedro hopes for proper video recording of all sessions! | 21:51 | |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i was pondering a 'meego on arm' tatoo | 21:51 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: rofl | 21:51 |
| X-Fade | Hehe. | 21:51 |
| Stskeeps | javispedro: there'll supposedly be live streaming | 21:52 |
| X-Fade | In the main hall only. | 21:52 |
| RST38h | javispedro: notgoing? | 21:52 |
| Stskeeps | ah, yeah | 21:52 |
| javispedro | Stskeeps: live? but I'll be in some other channel! ;) | 21:53 |
| DawnFoster | everything will be recorded for play later | 21:53 |
| DawnFoster | big room will be live streamed | 21:53 |
| Stskeeps | DawnFoster: we just pray the people are proper professionals instead of the morons we had last year.. | 21:53 |
| javispedro | RST38h: going, but worrying about schedule collisions | 21:53 |
| X-Fade | DawnFoster: Thanks for the info. | 21:53 |
| javispedro | DawnFoster++ | 21:53 |
| DawnFoster | I hammered on them with obscure questions about bandwidth isolation, uploading, etc. | 21:54 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 21:54 |
| X-Fade | Yeah, the schedule has a big problem. There are too many interesting talks :) | 21:54 |
| DawnFoster | I *think* we have it figured out | 21:54 |
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| javispedro | X-Fade: Indeed. | 21:55 |
| Stskeeps | i wonder how the wifi will cope with 400+ n900's | 21:56 |
| niala | you send a email to comunity with the url for stream and other stuff? | 21:56 |
| Stskeeps | niala: there's links on schedule, i assume those would be used | 21:56 |
| DawnFoster | I warned them to expect each person to be using 2 wireless connections at all times :) | 21:56 |
| DawnFoster | I tried to stress that geek conference attendees will use *all* available bandwidth | 21:57 |
| X-Fade | DawnFoster: Good, that is exactly what we saw in the last conference ;) | 21:57 |
| javispedro | not to worry. someone should run firesheep on the unprotected network on the very first day and ... problem solved! | 21:57 |
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| lbt | just 2 devices? | 21:58 |
| lbt | :( | 21:58 |
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| corecode | how come the 1.1 release doesn't require an IMEI, but the codedrop does? | 22:00 |
| DawnFoster | lbt - just an average - I expect you to need about 10 :) | 22:00 |
| Stskeeps | corecode: it's a convience place for us to drop that image | 22:00 |
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| Stskeeps | corecode: we needed the image published somehow and it isn't a '1.1' feature | 22:01 |
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| corecode | how are they different? | 22:01 |
| Stskeeps | corecode: there's a third partition that contains a vfat filesystem with uImage on | 22:01 |
| Stskeeps | compared to the normal 1.1 release image | 22:01 |
| corecode | for uboot | 22:02 |
| Stskeeps | right | 22:02 |
| javispedro | btw | 22:02 |
| javispedro | You should also offer raw partition images | 22:02 |
| corecode | but why does this require the IMEI then? | 22:02 |
| corecode | is that just a side effect of codedrop? | 22:02 |
| Stskeeps | corecode: sideeffect - we used to need IMEI for the images | 22:03 |
| corecode | ah | 22:03 |
| Stskeeps | corecode: we just didn't have time to set up a proper drop :) | 22:03 |
| corecode | fair enough | 22:03 |
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| javispedro | though it's easy enough to extract the partition from the sd image :) | 22:03 |
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| corecode | so i could just use the 1.1 image and slap a uboot partition on it? | 22:04 |
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| Stskeeps | yes, we have a guide for doing all this from scratch | 22:05 |
| Stskeeps | in practice, 1.1 is easier | 22:05 |
| Stskeeps | er, codedrop | 22:05 |
| corecode | yea | 22:05 |
| corecode | i guess so | 22:05 |
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| niala | at conference, you will take question from internet ? irc? note maybe all #meego'ers will be in Dublin :) | 22:09 |
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| petteri | , but they will still ask questions on IRC :) | 22:10 |
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| javispedro | exactly | 22:22 |
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| * javispedro fondly remembers last years' maemo event he wasn't able to attend | 22:23 | |
| DawnFoster | we will have someone on IRC fielding questions from the remote audience | 22:23 |
| javispedro | irc was quite lively | 22:23 |
| DawnFoster | plus most of the room on IRC as typical for any tech conference :) | 22:23 |
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| georgem | Is anyone aware of anyway to boot meego on an Atom without using a standard PC bios? Has anyone heard of anything like coreboot that supports US15W or E600 platforms? | 23:25 |
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| Stskeeps | well, don't they have EFI? | 23:25 |
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| georgem | Stskeeps: I'll look into that. | 23:27 |
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| Stskeeps | if so, look into grub for efi or maybe syslinux's efi variant (i think) | 23:28 |
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| hpa | At this point Syslinux doesn't have EFI yet, but there is ELILO (which has nothing to do with LILO) | 23:29 |
| georgem | ok. interesting. | 23:29 |
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| georgem | Ahh. tianocore. this looks interesting. | 23:34 |
| lcuk | http://meego.com/about/contribution-guidelines | 23:36 |
| lcuk | is this document wrong? | 23:37 |
| lcuk | it says patches are good | 23:37 |
| lcuk | but no mention of the even better option: direct gitorious merge request | 23:37 |
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| lcuk | where peer review can occur immediately | 23:37 |
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| * lucent pops over from #maemo | 23:37 | |
| lcuk | (for the meego specific things anyway) | 23:37 |
| lcuk | \o lucent | 23:38 |
| lucent | I'm not a developer, though I have a good knack for troubleshooting and bug reporting | 23:38 |
| lcuk | thats good to have | 23:38 |
| lcuk | :) | 23:38 |
| lucent | are more ... people / bodies needed to test wifi on N900 target? I could be that guy who goes back and forth with a real developer | 23:38 |
| lcuk | have you tried meego on your device yet? | 23:38 |
| lucent | ha | 23:38 |
| lucent | I have not tried meego on N900 | 23:39 |
| lcuk | :) perhaps you could give the wifi modules a workout and see whether its coming along | 23:40 |
| lucent | uhhh okay I followed that there's some guides about installing Meego on N900, however as I use it for a day to day phone, what do you say is the least likely to bork method? | 23:40 |
| lcuk | the principle method is the one people use :) | 23:40 |
| lcuk | install onto an external MMC | 23:40 |
| lucent | ah okay I have those | 23:41 |
| RST38h | install to a microSD card | 23:41 |
| lcuk | plug it in and do a soft kernel boot | 23:41 |
| lcuk | which reverts after you reboot | 23:41 |
| lucent | what capacity suggested? | 23:41 |
| lcuk | the dualboot documentation is a bit hairy atm and still needs clarification | 23:41 |
| lcuk | 4gb | 23:41 |
| RST38h | What is the status of having seamless switching between meego and maemo btw? | 23:41 |
| lcuk | RST38h, ^ | 23:41 |
| RST38h | Still not functional? | 23:41 |
| lcuk | i believe its possible | 23:42 |
| lcuk | but its not an easy ride | 23:42 |
| * lcuk has not got the guts to try it | 23:42 | |
| lcuk | hmm | 23:42 |
| lcuk | i could on my other | 23:42 |
| lucent | do you mean seamless "kexec" ? | 23:42 |
| * lcuk will do it after the other items on todo | 23:42 | |
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| qgil | omg, sometimes I feel lazy with Netbook UX - for example now that I must figure out how to get 'wget'... | 23:59 |
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