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| Macer | so.. how is the n900 one going? | 00:01 |
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| Macer | something usable yet? | 00:02 |
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| auke | #define "one" | 00:02 |
| CosmoHill | Macer: I think it's going very well | 00:02 |
| Macer | what hw isnt working still? | 00:02 |
| Macer | sorry. havent checked up in a while | 00:02 |
| auke | easy: unsupported hardware isn't working still. | 00:03 |
| Macer | i am just waiting umtil it is done | 00:03 |
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| Macer | unsupported? | 00:03 |
| Macer | i thought nokia was giving out closed blobs | 00:03 |
| CosmoHill | auke: I think he meant what parts of the n900 still don't work | 00:03 |
| auke | what needs to be done? | 00:03 |
| auke | lol | 00:03 |
| auke | CosmoHill: he could be more specific :) | 00:03 |
| Macer | CosmoHill: yeah... that is what i meant | 00:03 |
| CosmoHill | I pointed that out to someoen today and got shouted at | 00:03 |
| auke | hehe | 00:03 |
| Macer | :) | 00:04 |
| auke | CosmoHill: you deserved it, I bet :D | 00:04 |
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| Macer | haha | 00:04 |
| auke | anyway I thought gfx and battery is now working properly | 00:04 |
| CosmoHill | the "university network" to me means the whole thing | 00:04 |
| CosmoHill | what I'd actually done is connected a computer to the back bone :/ | 00:04 |
| auke | CosmoHill: brilliant! | 00:05 |
| Macer | ah. so still no cam and modem? | 00:05 |
| Macer | or is the cam the only thing? | 00:06 |
| CosmoHill | lcuk: was doing some witchcraft with his cam | 00:06 |
| Macer | lol! | 00:06 |
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| auke | CosmoHill: TMI :) | 00:06 |
| Macer | reverse engineering the drivers by disecting the hw? | 00:07 |
| CosmoHill | auke: but I didn't even mention the goat! | 00:07 |
| CosmoHill | Macer: he got the camera to track it's movement and change the screen's content | 00:07 |
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| eikke | is there any repository where gst-plugins-bad/ugly etc are available? | 00:18 |
| rauli | there is one for 1.0 .. i compiled mine from source for 1.1 | 00:19 |
| auke | there's a forum thread that links to a personal repo with some stuff | 00:19 |
| * eikke still doesnt get why meego needs to be a separate distribution | 00:20 | |
| auke | there's a very strong case to not base on a distro that you do not control... | 00:21 |
| CosmoHill | you can't optimise what you can't control | 00:22 |
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| CosmoHill | (or in some cases, unoptimise) | 00:22 |
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| auke | generic vs. specifc | 00:22 |
| auke | generic vs. specific | 00:23 |
| CosmoHill | you sound like my general studies teacher | 00:23 |
| auke | although there's an argument that a "mobile-device-targeted" distribution will work well on pretty much any consumer-type device, that isn't the same as "a generic" distribution working well on mobile devices | 00:28 |
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| auke | hence it makes sense to not try to respin an existing distro at all - that would be just as much work as just making a specific distro | 00:29 |
| eikke | partially agree | 00:31 |
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| auke | then there's the operational risk - suddenly your work could be extremely complex because you need to provide X but your upstream distro broke that, or has X+N | 00:32 |
| eikke | thats not an issue if you dont ship any end-user stuff | 00:33 |
| auke | end-user stuff? | 00:33 |
| eikke | eg if I work on some GNOME app, I dont care at all if some distro would break GTK | 00:33 |
| eikke | auke: full distribution | 00:33 |
| auke | obviously that's totally relevant if a huge part of what we deliver is based on e.g. Qt | 00:34 |
| eikke | s/gtk/qt then, whatever, same principle applies | 00:34 |
| auke | upstream breaks Qt? we're hosed, missing our planned deadline to deliver release X.Y | 00:34 |
| eikke | only if your goal is to deliver full sets (top to bottom) :) | 00:35 |
| auke | then there's the potential that "upstream" considers you hostile and tries to derail your project | 00:35 |
| auke | or otherwise not cooperate | 00:35 |
| eikke | nobody says there should be only 1 upstream | 00:35 |
| auke | yeah we'll do half debian and half red hat | 00:35 |
| auke | that'll fly | 00:36 |
| eikke | no | 00:36 |
| eikke | the thing is, you dont do anything | 00:36 |
| eikke | consider meego to be a project similar to the gnome desktop release, or the kde desktop | 00:36 |
| eikke | you dont really care about fedora or debian or opensuse at that point | 00:36 |
| auke | sure, a fancy desktop for mobiles, but power consumption and performance on any device sucks? | 00:37 |
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| auke | oh and nobody will ship it | 00:37 |
| eikke | why would nobody ship it? meego1.0 was targetted to be part of F14 | 00:37 |
| eikke | its even in the release notes | 00:37 |
| auke | nonsense, meego 1.0 was never targeted to be part of any distro except meego itself | 00:38 |
| auke | meego doesn't cater to other distro's | 00:38 |
| eikke | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MeeGo_1.0#Current_status | 00:38 |
| auke | that's not a meego statement, that's a fedora statement | 00:39 |
| eikke | i never said nor implied it'd be a statement coming from the meego project | 00:39 |
| auke | if fedora claims that meego parts are targeted towards fedora releases, they are full of nonsense. | 00:39 |
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| eikke | they dont say nor imply that either | 00:40 |
| eikke | they just want to ship the Meego netbook UX as a shell for their distro, similar to how they ship GNOME 2.x and KDE 4.x | 00:40 |
| auke | sure, they can, it has nothing to do with MeeGo as a project | 00:41 |
| auke | MeeGo is much more than just a UX for netbooks anyway | 00:41 |
| eikke | it does has something to do with the meego project, since the meego project becomes an upstream for fedora | 00:42 |
| eikke | I do know it's more than a netbook ux | 00:42 |
| eikke | I'm not saying building your own stack from bottom to top is a bad thing per se | 00:42 |
| eikke | it does have its benefits indeed | 00:42 |
| eikke | but it also has drawbacks | 00:42 |
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| auke | sure, there's implications to that choice | 00:43 |
| auke | but they're well-weighed and needed to make MeeGo on handsets for instance feasible | 00:44 |
| niala | question: any plan to use qt for UX netbook in futur? like other meego, ivi, phone, ? | 00:44 |
| auke | niala: would be nice, yes, we hope it happens in the long run | 00:45 |
| auke | but, no concrete plans whatsoever | 00:45 |
| niala | how netbook xill survive vs classic distro? I trust more the other meego-version | 00:46 |
| niala | xill/will | 00:46 |
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| niala | note for mee meego is already very nice and speed, but many people complain about app | 00:47 |
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| smithna | Howdy, does anyone know how to use buteo to sync with google contact info? | 00:54 |
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| chemfy | Hi, been trying to get MeeGo SDK up, I'm currently on this part http://wiki.meego.com/SDK/Docs/1.1/Configuring_QEMU_runtimes#Using_a_runtime , but when I run the command this happens, http://pastebin.com/PmUem6Dd and it appears no runtime was started. Can anyone give help with this? | 00:56 |
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| * wmarone sighs as yum redownloads 130MB of packages | 01:08 | |
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| CosmoHill | wmarone: meego doesn't use yum | 01:11 |
| niala | CosmoHill: it is still | 01:13 |
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| auke | negative | 01:15 |
| auke | meego netbook uses packagekit | 01:15 |
| auke | zypper is the supported package management | 01:15 |
| auke | yum may be installed, but it's -not- used by meego tools | 01:15 |
| auke | from 1.1 yum is gone, not installed by default | 01:16 |
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| wmarone | no no, I'm working with actual fedora on a different system | 01:21 |
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| wmarone | I'm very happy that yum was not chosen, assuming zypper will cache downloads | 01:22 |
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| auke | it does | 01:22 |
| wmarone | \o/ | 01:22 |
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| auke | /var/cache/zypp or something like that | 01:22 |
| niala | well I haven't do any 'zypper install yum*' and he is here. but it does not matter. | 01:24 |
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| auke | 1.1 image? | 01:25 |
| niala | yes | 01:25 |
| * auke gets mad at someone sneaking it back in, and goes to hit people over the head | 01:26 | |
| auke | niala: which image exactly? | 01:26 |
| niala | [root@niala-desktop niala]# cat /etc/meego | 01:27 |
| niala | meegofeedbackd/ meego-release meegotouch/ | 01:27 |
| niala | [root@niala-desktop niala]# cat /etc/meego-release | 01:27 |
| niala | MeeGo release 1.1 (MeeGo) | 01:27 |
| niala | BUILD: meego-netbook-ia32-1.1 | 01:27 |
| niala | oups sorry | 01:27 |
| * CosmoHill gives auke a bat | 01:27 | |
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| auke | no, not 'which build' | 01:27 |
| auke | which image did you use to install? | 01:28 |
| beford | that's weird because I remember using 1.0.99 images and they did not include yum | 01:28 |
| auke | e.g. what file did you download over the internet | 01:28 |
| auke | I'm looking at the official image build logs for all 1.1 images, and there's no mention of yum in them | 01:28 |
| beford | I am going to install this one in a minut http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.1/netbook/images/meego-netbook-ia32/meego-netbook-ia32-1.1.img | 01:29 |
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| auke | yes, and the .packages file in that folder doesn't show yum, nor is yum mentioned in the log in the same folder | 01:30 |
| beford | I noticed something though, during the 1.0.99 installs and this 1.1 the touchpad click doesnt work on the installer, I have to use the touchpad button, but after starting meego it works | 01:32 |
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| auke | niala: can you answer my question? | 01:33 |
| niala | well maybeI have installed yum and my redfish brain not remember. I download image again and test live | 01:33 |
| auke | if you don't know that's fine | 01:33 |
| niala | bah your log say no yum, cpu are better than me :) | 01:34 |
| auke | mic2 pulls in yum | 01:34 |
| auke | but, other than that I don't know of any other apps that require yum right now | 01:34 |
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| niala | mic2 yes it's possible I use that | 01:35 |
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| niala | and abbout kickstart file it seem that .ks doesn't understand 'keyboard fr' he still use qwerty keyboard | 01:37 |
| auke | file a mic2 bugreport on that?! | 01:38 |
| niala | lol I never do that I have no solution yet | 01:39 |
| auke | bugreports are not for solutions | 01:40 |
| auke | they are for problems :) | 01:40 |
| auke | we have solutionzilla for solutions... | 01:40 |
| auke | fixzilla.meego.com ;) | 01:40 |
| niala | I have submitted a bug and it is closed because it's no a bug :) http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4003 | 01:41 |
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| auke | such is the life of some bug reports | 01:42 |
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| * smithna wonders since no one knows about buteo if anyone knows much about festival... | 01:51 | |
| niala | auke: you can sleep nice, after verif, yum is not by default, like you say maybe mic2 | 01:51 |
| auke | ok, thanks for taking the time to track that down | 01:51 |
| niala | other on t101 onefinger touchscreen work but if computer go sleeping only mousepad work on wake up. more for the forum i think | 01:51 |
| CosmoHill | wtf, my PC card eject button just popped out on it's own | 01:56 |
| niala | wtf? save the pandas ? | 01:56 |
| niala | World Taekwondo Federation | 01:58 |
| CosmoHill | wt = what the | 01:58 |
| CVirus | MeeGo looks very promising :-) | 01:59 |
| niala | ahhh, c'est quoi ce bordel I understand CosmoHill | 01:59 |
| niala | CVirus: yes it is | 01:59 |
| CosmoHill | something like that | 02:00 |
| CVirus | niala: can't wait to see it on a phone | 02:00 |
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| CVirus | niala: I mean shipped on a phone :-D | 02:00 |
| niala | wait and see | 02:00 |
| CVirus | aren't those Aava sets for sale ? | 02:01 |
| niala | CVirus: try it in a virtual environment | 02:01 |
| CVirus | niala: will do | 02:01 |
| CosmoHill | CVirus: they are development phones and cost one sun | 02:01 |
| CosmoHill | son* | 02:01 |
| niala | I don"t know what compagny are doing i m not dealer :) | 02:02 |
| CVirus | CosmoHill: I don't have one yet | 02:02 |
| CVirus | I'm getting an HTC Desire next week .. hopefully will play a bit with meego's port | 02:03 |
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| CosmoHill | cyas | 02:28 |
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| * twinkie_addict finaly decided to drop win 7 starter . and am deciding to try meego, how is it for those that use it ? | 02:28 | |
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| wangjan | "ImportError: No module named worker.worker" who encounted the problem when try to start ots.worker? | 08:12 |
| wangjan | anybody can give me some comments? | 08:14 |
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| zutesmog | Is your problem in dev or production?, don't know what worker is, but have you installed it in your project. | 08:15 |
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| zutesmog | oops sorry wrong chanel - | 08:23 |
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| timoph | wangjan: http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/QA-tools/OTS/UserDocumentation/Installation#Worker | 08:29 |
| timoph | you can also consult the ots developers in #meego-qa-tools (after they wake up) | 08:31 |
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| Tumi_ | they are woken =) | 08:35 |
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| wangjan | zutesmog, i have setup the ots server and also setup the worker eviroment according the ots installation from wiki, | 08:38 |
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| wangjan | when i start the worker, it pops up the error from my pc | 08:38 |
| Tumi_ | wangjan: I really recommend this #meego-qa-tools | 08:41 |
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| wangjan | Tumi, yes , so you can give me some help> | 08:42 |
| Tumi_ | I'm not the best one but the other guys there | 08:42 |
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| Tumi_ | E-P might know | 08:43 |
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| wangjan | is he at here? | 08:44 |
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| Tumi_ | not sure | 08:46 |
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| Tumi_ | is there problem joining the channel? | 08:47 |
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| Tumi_ | I encourage using specialized channels whenever possible not to flood the general ones :) | 08:56 |
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| Foreach | Hi, is it possible make phone calls in N900 with Meego 1.1 installed to it? | 10:01 |
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| Stskeeps | yes, if you have a PIN-less sim card | 10:02 |
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| erani | hello all | 10:23 |
| erani | I'm having issues with my eeepc 1000H and meego. it seems that meego somehow work recognize my wlan card | 10:24 |
| erani | it's turned on in bios and os but i can't find any networks | 10:24 |
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| Foreach | hmm, I'm trying to boot meego on n900 according to #meego at irc.freenode.net but device hangs after showing "Waiting for root device /dev/mmcblk0p1" in console. Well, It not hangs - cursor is blinking - but noting happens. Is it as it should be? | 10:50 |
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| Stskeeps | put your back cover on | 10:51 |
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| Foreach | Stskeeps, did it before booting.. | 10:51 |
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| Sazius | erani: what does it say for HWaddr if you open a Terminal and type "ifconfig wlan0" ? | 11:05 |
| Sazius | erani: if it is the same problem that I had on EeePC 901 then this forum thread might be helpful: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=1756 | 11:06 |
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| erani | Sazius: all zero's | 11:10 |
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| erani | hmm, but ifconfig wlan0 up doesn't work | 11:12 |
| erani | even with sudo | 11:12 |
| Sazius | hmm, I was just going to suggest that | 11:13 |
| Sazius | strange | 11:13 |
| erani | something about SI0CSIFFLAGS | 11:13 |
| Sazius | if you read that forum thread further there is the same issue for some people | 11:14 |
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| Sazius | this seemed to help: http://forum.meego.com/showpost.php?p=12139&postcount=36 | 11:14 |
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| Sazius | but check the forum thread... | 11:16 |
| erani | oh, ok. :) sorry, i'm on my n900 in a lecture so trying to focjus on both assistant and irc is rather challenging | 11:17 |
| erani | -j | 11:17 |
| erani | thanks, i'll look into that | 11:17 |
| Sazius | ok, good luck :) | 11:18 |
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| erani | i now got wlan0 if up but can't see any networks O.o | 11:35 |
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| erani | oh, just adding the ifconfig wlan0 up to rc.sysinit fixed the problem as was described in the first page. thank you :) | 11:53 |
| Sazius | great! :) | 11:54 |
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| Foreach | this is strange anyway, could not boot meego on n900. After flashing kernel to device it starts to wait for /dev/mmcblk0p1 and do nothing. What could be the reason for this? | 12:48 |
| Stskeeps | back cover not on or you wrote the image in a bad way | 12:49 |
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| eurisko | hi all, is it possible to install meego on a ARM based tablet? | 13:22 |
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| X-Fade | eurisko: That really depends on what you want. | 13:24 |
| eurisko | okay, let me explain, i want to develop an application to work with gps. For that i need a hardware plataform with a touchscreen and portable. So i found those cheap arm tablets from china | 13:25 |
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| X-Fade | eurisko: What cpu is in there exactly? | 13:26 |
| eurisko | they cost arround 160$ , my question is if it's possible to install meego into it | 13:26 |
| eurisko | let me see | 13:26 |
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| eurisko | ZT180 1.06GHZ ARM | 13:26 |
| eurisko | ZT ZeniThink | 13:27 |
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| X-Fade | That seems to be an armv6 cpu. | 13:28 |
| X-Fade | Which means it is not supported by MeeGo. | 13:28 |
| X-Fade | That doesn't mean you can't use MeeGo on it, but you'd need to recompile for armv6 yourself. | 13:29 |
| eurisko | yes it is | 13:29 |
| eurisko | what arm cores are supported by meego, is there any page where i can read about it? | 13:29 |
| phellarv | "The Zenithink ZT-180 is powered by an ARM Cortex A8 1GHz processor" | 13:29 |
| eurisko | no phellarv it's a lie | 13:30 |
| phellarv | Is it? | 13:30 |
| eurisko | they try to sell it as it a armv8 | 13:30 |
| eurisko | arm a8 | 13:30 |
| eurisko | but it isn't | 13:30 |
| X-Fade | eurisko: On #meego-arm, Stskeeps was looking into armv6 support. | 13:30 |
| phellarv | eurisko: Aaah - Found it: http://www.androidtablets.net/forum/other-platforms/406-zenithink-zt-180-specifications-faking-not-armv7-a8-cortex.html | 13:30 |
| X-Fade | phellarv: That seems to be an overhyped lie. | 13:31 |
| eurisko | there is a thread here , wait http://www.androidtablets.net/forum/other-platforms/406-zenithink-zt-180-specifications-faking-not-armv7-a8-cortex.html | 13:31 |
| eurisko | that one | 13:31 |
| phellarv | ;-P | 13:31 |
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| eurisko | x-fade what means overhyped? | 13:31 |
| X-Fade | They inflated their specs it seems :) | 13:32 |
| eurisko | oh yes they did :D | 13:32 |
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| eurisko | but now they are seeling them cheap because of the bad fame | 13:32 |
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| kt_ | is there an easy way to search for file in the entire meego source code tree? | 14:01 |
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| kt_ | or an easy way do download everything | 14:02 |
| Stskeeps | rsync the src.rpms :P | 14:02 |
| kt_ | Stskeeps, i am not familiar with rsync. How would you use it to get all the source code at http://meego.gitorious.org/ *? | 14:04 |
| Stskeeps | well, i would just grab it from the repo.meego.com | 14:05 |
| slaine_ | kt_: what are you looking for, there's probably a better way to narrow it down | 14:05 |
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| kt_ | i am looking for a header file called accessories.h or actually i am looking for the file where input_dev_t is defined | 14:07 |
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| kt_ | slaine_, i am trying to figure out how the jack sensing is implemented | 14:09 |
| slaine_ | meego 1.0 or 1.1 | 14:09 |
| slaine_ | didn't think jack was on meego | 14:10 |
| kt_ | slaine_: meego 1.0 for now. | 14:10 |
| slaine_ | grand, you can do | 14:10 |
| slaine_ | yum whatprovides */accessories.h | 14:10 |
| slaine_ | that'll tell you what rpms offer it | 14:11 |
| kt_ | slaine, not "jack" but the sensing of whether headphones are plugged in or not | 14:11 |
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| slaine_ | Thanks CosmoHill, was about to get one before I head off later | 14:13 |
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| kt_ | slaine, i have tried running "yum whatprovides */accessories.h" on the meego pc. no results | 14:14 |
| kt_ | is the meego source code tree really searched by yum? | 14:15 |
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| Bostik | package content index, more likely | 14:16 |
| slaine_ | Any packages that have a non-private api will generate a -devel rpm | 14:16 |
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| kt_ | i think that should be able to use repo to download the complete source code tree for meego but i don't know how to do it | 14:16 |
| slaine_ | so headers etc. would be there | 14:16 |
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| kt_ | slaine_, ok but the meego source code tree is hardly contained in a package? | 14:17 |
| Bostik | kt_: rsync should be the best tool for that; you won't get an unpacked source tree (a'la BSD) but you do get all the .src.rpm files in addition to binaries | 14:17 |
| slaine_ | you're talking about a private api then | 14:17 |
| slaine_ | So where did you get accessories.h from ? | 14:18 |
| slaine_ | Or you could write a simple script that gets a list of all the rpms installed on your system and then does a 'yumdownloader --source <packagename>' | 14:19 |
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| * slaine_ needs to learn all the zypper equivilants | 14:19 | |
| CosmoHill | zypper help | 14:20 |
| CosmoHill | on a side note that's the only zypper command that works on non-SSSE3 | 14:20 |
| kt_ | slaine_, I am looking in http://meego.gitorious.org/maemo-multimedia/ohm, in wired.c the header file is included. There are so many projects that I can't download them all one by one. | 14:22 |
| slaine_ | that's what you asked how to do | 14:22 |
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| kt_ | slaine_, no i want to dowload all the source code for meego (all projects) in one go | 14:22 |
| kt_ | like repo init -u git:somethingwithmeego | 14:23 |
| kt_ | repo sync | 14:23 |
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| slaine_ | there's a difference between all the source code for meego and all the gitorious.org hosted projects that are under the meego section | 14:25 |
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| slaine_ | Stskeeps: is maemo-multimedia even used on the handset-ux ? | 14:26 |
| Stskeeps | which parts? | 14:27 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:27 |
| kt_ | slaine_, i use the netbook version | 14:27 |
| slaine_ | kt_: you're looking at handheld maemo code though, afaik | 14:27 |
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| slaine_ | your audio driver would probably issue a kevent if it honored the switch you're talking about. | 14:29 |
| kt_ | slaine_, i need to figure out how to do jack sensing, i am just looking in the code for inspiration and to copy-paste some parts | 14:29 |
| kt_ | ok | 14:29 |
| slaine_ | that's plagiarism, not inspiration ;) | 14:30 |
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| slaine_ | anyway, I'm off for that cuppa/lunch. Hope to be back later for the CO meeting | 14:30 |
| slaine_ | laters | 14:30 |
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| dcordes | hi | 14:31 |
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| dcordes | smoku: are you tomasz from the arm-linux-msm mailing list ? | 14:31 |
| smoku | dcordes, Tomasz Sterna. yes | 14:32 |
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| dcordes | smoku: nice | 14:33 |
| dcordes | smoku: it is hard to find out what you are basing on when looking at http://gitorious.org/streak | 14:34 |
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| dcordes | smoku: I would like to add more documentation here http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Streak | 14:34 |
| dcordes | smoku: I would like to add Leo (HTC HD2) in the qualcomm kernels | 14:36 |
| dcordes | smoku: so we have a similar aim | 14:36 |
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| smoku | dcordes, because we (as the dell streak development community) do not know what we are basing at | 14:44 |
| smoku | dcordes, dell just domped some source at us ( http://opensource.dell.com/releases/streak/ ) with close to zero additional information | 14:45 |
| dcordes | smoku: I am talking about the kernel branch. does the dell streak development community have a website? | 14:45 |
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| dcordes | smoku: you are very welcvome to join #htc-linux . we do a lot with qsd8xxxx | 14:45 |
| dcordes | thanks for the link I will add it in the htc-linux wiki | 14:46 |
| smoku | dcordes, their kernels have 2.6.29 version encoded. but when you look at it there is a lot of code from .31 and .35 in these sources | 14:46 |
| smoku | dcordes, so it's a mixup of code from different kernel versions | 14:46 |
| dcordes | ok | 14:47 |
| dcordes | and the gitorious branch is that kernel from dell ? | 14:47 |
| smoku | dcordes, we do not have a website. we mostly talk at #dellstreak here at freenode | 14:47 |
| dcordes | you should really add it in the gitorious descriptio | 14:47 |
| dcordes | ok | 14:47 |
| dcordes | feel free to document anythin in the htc-linux wiki, as it is full of qualcomm | 14:48 |
| smoku | dcordes, which branch? dell-* branches are code imports from dell. the rest are my attempts to port dell changes to msm-2.6.35 branch from codeaurora | 14:48 |
| dcordes | I added some stuff about streak in the htc-linux.org wiki at http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Streak | 14:50 |
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| dcordes | wrong channel, sorry | 14:50 |
| dcordes | alright thanks | 14:51 |
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| back-2-95 | Hi all, I try to run application in MeeGo/N900 which takes RSS feed from internet. Problem is that I can't type WIFI wpa key as n900 keyboard types what ever. Now the wpa key is saved somewhere in the settings but I can't find how to edit it.. Any clues? Or do I have to just write the whole image again to SD card? | 15:08 |
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| Tormis | I created new connection when mistyped my key | 15:11 |
| back-2-95 | so you just added the network with "Add" page and retyped it? | 15:12 |
| Tormis | yep | 15:12 |
| back-2-95 | I have numbers in my wpa key, and when I try to write numbers with the keyboard, it goes crazy and types what ever... | 15:13 |
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| Tormis | weird, slow but working here | 15:15 |
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| back-2-95 | im using the 1.1 handset ux from meego.com | 15:18 |
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| Tormis | same here | 15:19 |
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| chemfy | Hello, been trying to get MeeGo SDK working on Ubuntu 10.10 and when I start qemu it always gets stuck on this part http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/9716/meegob.png , anyone got an idea whats wrong? | 15:23 |
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| Tormis | back-2-95: can you type numbers somewhere else correctly? | 15:26 |
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| back-2-95 | I rebooted 2 times and it got better... | 15:31 |
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| X-Fade | What is happening with daily builds when there is only an image available, but not the repos? Is this an error condition somehow? | 15:37 |
| X-Fade | http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/1.1.80/1.1.80.4.20101029.1/ does not have repos, but http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/1.1.80/1.1.80.3.20101026.1/ does. | 15:37 |
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| FunkyPenguin | am i correct in saying that moblin-panel has been replaced with meego-panel which is provided by mutter-meego? | 15:43 |
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| djszapi | what is the name of the meego 1.2 release like maemo was fremantle ? Can that be known ? | 15:58 |
| Stskeeps | we didn't have a name for 1.1 or 1.0 | 15:59 |
| Stskeeps | so it's likely 1.2 doesn't have one | 15:59 |
| djszapi | public yet :P | 15:59 |
| Stskeeps | i don't know of one, public or not | 15:59 |
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| CosmoHill | is it good or bad that I removed two heat sinks in two minutes and both had processors attached | 16:56 |
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| lcuk | CosmoHill, not usually, were the computers powered up though? | 16:59 |
| CosmoHill | nope | 16:59 |
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| CosmoHill | I went to remove the fan off one, found it was in fact the heatsink lock then realised the processor had come out too | 16:59 |
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| lcuk | eek | 16:59 |
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| CosmoHill | then spent 2 mins swearing at it cos the heat sink got stuck and I couldn't remove it from the case | 17:00 |
| lcuk | CosmoHill, the amount of force required to attack heatsink to cpu nowadays is silly | 17:00 |
| lcuk | attach | 17:00 |
| CosmoHill | both are pentium4 | 17:00 |
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| lcuk | i remember the tomshardware thing about removing heatsink from intels and amds | 17:00 |
| CosmoHill | I'd only fitted one of them 5 mins ago | 17:00 |
| lcuk | was amazing to see | 17:00 |
| CosmoHill | yeah I remember that | 17:00 |
| lcuk | caused a change in the amd chipset from what I recall | 17:01 |
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| CosmoHill | my plan was to swap my bros heat sink and put the old fan on the new one | 17:01 |
| lcuk | CosmoHill, you do know that using superglue as a heatsink compound is not normal | 17:01 |
| CosmoHill | in the process I broke the old fan mount and couldn't fit the old fan to the new one cos of the screws | 17:01 |
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| CosmoHill | it's a great way to make sure you have contact between the heatsink and processor | 17:02 |
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| CosmoHill | hey DawnFoster | 17:16 |
| DawnFoster | hey CosmoHill | 17:16 |
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| lcuk | morning DawnFoster \o | 17:18 |
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| Myrtti | TuesdayTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtPb8g8Jl6I | 17:35 |
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| chemfy | Hello, been trying to get MeeGo SDK working on Ubuntu 10.10 and when I start qemu it always gets stuck on this part http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/9716/meegob.png , anyone got an idea whats wrong? | 18:59 |
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| awayfar | Hey guys, I have a quick (dumb) question. I have Meego running using a USB mouse. I see the mouse just fine in normal X, but using uxlaunch with duihome I cannot see the mouse. Where can I tell uxlaunch/duihome my mouse device? | 19:29 |
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| Myrtti | omnomnom chocolate | 19:50 |
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| auke | who has a netbook with ralink wireless (e.g. asus eee pc) that runs 1.1 and has issues? | 19:54 |
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| auke | X-Fade: ping | 19:59 |
| auke | lbt: ping | 19:59 |
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| X-Fade | auke: pong? | 20:00 |
| qgil | testing testing from Qt Developer Days 1h before Community Office IRC meeting :) | 20:00 |
| X-Fade | qgil: loud and clear :) | 20:00 |
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| thiago | qgil: let's see if the wifi holds out | 20:01 |
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| qgil | well, the meeting is at lunch time (which can be good, or can be bad) | 20:02 |
| qgil | thiago: definitely bad for my stomach :) | 20:02 |
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| Stskeeps | qgil: it's an irc meeting, having laptop in one hand and a sandwich in the other isn't visible ;) | 20:07 |
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| auke | X-Fade: crepo.meego.com | 20:08 |
| auke | X-Fade: lbt pointed to you when I asked him why my personal repo wasn't publishing | 20:08 |
| qgil | Stskeeps: disapearing 10 minutes to grab the food and come back might be noticeable - but I'll manage | 20:08 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 20:08 |
| X-Fade | auke: Dat heb ik gefixt :) | 20:08 |
| auke | ok | 20:08 |
| auke | gatver, nog een hollander | 20:08 |
| X-Fade | lastig he ;) | 20:08 |
| auke | http://crepo.meego.com/home%3a/ -> no auke | 20:09 |
| X-Fade | But it only publishes on rebuild. | 20:09 |
| auke | oh | 20:09 |
| auke | so I have to force a rebuild? | 20:09 |
| X-Fade | Yeah, please do so. I tweaked the xen setup too, so I hope that it is less slow. | 20:09 |
| auke | good time to try | 20:09 |
| * auke hits the rebuild button on all the xfce packages | 20:10 | |
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| X-Fade | It is idle anyway. | 20:10 |
| vnepo | hello everybody | 20:10 |
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| auke | hmm I wonder if I can rebuild an entire project somehow with one command | 20:11 |
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| thiago | "te fixen" is a real verb? :-) | 20:12 |
| X-Fade | auke: delete the repo target and add it again. ;) | 20:12 |
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| X-Fade | thiago: no, that is borrowed from English and butchered to fit :) | 20:13 |
| auke | ah smart | 20:13 |
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| erani | hmmh, meego strangely crashes every time when it goes to sleep mode on my 1000h... | 20:15 |
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| auke | X-Fade: bedankt. it's rebuilding and looking faster than it was already... | 20:15 |
| erani | closing the lid won't freeze the system, but if it is idle for some time it'll crash | 20:15 |
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| X-Fade | auke: xen dom0 didn't have enough cpu power assigned to it, so that killed scheduling between the worker VMs. | 20:16 |
| auke | nod | 20:17 |
| auke | ok http://crepo.meego.com/home%3a/auke%3a/xfce/ already appeared, nice | 20:17 |
| auke | sweet | 20:17 |
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| X-Fade | But the IO on these servers still seems quite slow. And setting up a worker vm each time takes quite some IO. | 20:18 |
| X-Fade | So we need to play with that some more. | 20:19 |
| X-Fade | We could do with some nice Intel solid state drives :D | 20:19 |
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| X-Fade | Stskeeps: Yes. | 20:22 |
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| X-Fade | Stskeeps: at rpm5.org it lists armv5teb and armv5tel, so I guess that answers it? | 20:23 |
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| thiago | eb = endian-big | 20:23 |
| thiago | ARM can run in either endianness | 20:23 |
| thiago | that has nothing to do with the FP ABI | 20:24 |
| X-Fade | Hmm yeah, but isn't this the same difference? | 20:24 |
| X-Fade | Hardfp apps don't work on non-fp hardware? | 20:24 |
| thiago | they don't | 20:24 |
| RST38h | but is usually little-endian | 20:24 |
| thiago | but sse apps don't work in non-sse hardware either, yet they don't have an arch for themselves either | 20:24 |
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| X-Fade | thiago: complicated ;) | 20:26 |
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| * Stskeeps watches his armv6+vfp meego:1.1:core chew away | 20:26 | |
| X-Fade | Stskeeps: What hardware are you trying to run that on? | 20:27 |
| Stskeeps | X-Fade: a machine that if it had hands, it would try to choke me | 20:27 |
| thiago | note that you really want armv7, to get the SMP-safe instructions | 20:28 |
| Stskeeps | yeah - this is just a hobby project for the n8x0 devices | 20:28 |
| Stskeeps | and to learn more about meego porting | 20:28 |
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| DawnFoster | Community Office meeting starting now in #meego-meeting Agenda http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office/Meetings | 21:01 |
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| Unmensch | hey hey | 21:28 |
| Unmensch | is there a port of meego to the archos 7o internet tablet planned | 21:28 |
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| auke | Unmensch: no, no ports are "planned" officially right now. | 21:29 |
| Unmensch | too bad, I am a former n800 user and think that android can't really compete | 21:30 |
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| alsaf | Hi got a query about third party development on meego | 21:32 |
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| X-Fade | heh :) | 22:01 |
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| robtaylor | So, I've just been cleaning up ContextKit's documentation, and now i have a nice tarball of it's docs. | 22:18 |
| robtaylor | What should I do with it? :) | 22:18 |
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| dziq | hello | 22:29 |
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| X-Fade | auke: it seems the repo got published ok now? | 23:24 |
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| auke | X-Fade: pro! yeah, it published ok | 23:32 |
| auke | now I can actually go and clean it up a bit | 23:33 |
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| auke | trunk is ok | 23:43 |
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