CosmoHill | I have one assignment I don't want to do so I end up doing nothing instead of working on the others | 00:00 |
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evilrob | I have bootmenu installed for booting to android... wonder if that's causign it | 00:00 |
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CosmoHill | eep | 00:01 |
DawnFoster | I force myself to focus a chunk of time (like 2 hours) on that really sucky project and then reward my self by spending some time afterward on the fun projects. | 00:01 |
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CosmoHill | I'll give that a go | 00:04 |
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kevloral | Hello all | 00:07 |
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DawnFoster | *gives auke permission to kick CosmoHill if we see him playing on IRC in the next 2 hours* | 00:10 |
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niala | hello, | 00:10 |
Alison_Chaiken | CosmoHill, I put tasks I really hate on my calendar like real appointments. | 00:10 |
DawnFoster | (kidding!) | 00:10 |
CosmoHill | niala: save me! | 00:10 |
niala | hello CosmoHill nice day? | 00:10 |
niala | waza? | 00:10 |
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CosmoHill | oh merde | 00:11 |
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CosmoHill | ha! | 00:11 |
Alison_Chaiken | CosmoHill, I put drone music (OHM collection of historic electronic music or Terry Riley or Keith Jarrett) on the headphones. | 00:11 |
auke | CosmoHill: don't make me ban you! | 00:11 |
CosmoHill | auke: fyi I'm collecting results at the moment | 00:11 |
qgil | friday link: http://www.conman.tv/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/conman-utd-500.jpg | 00:11 |
Alison_Chaiken | Also, I go to my hackerspace (Hacker Dojo) and take an oil can of RockStar. | 00:11 |
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niala | CosmoHill: what is your assignment? | 00:12 |
CosmoHill | based on some research and trying, theocratically impossible within my life time | 00:12 |
* qgil wonders why is it so difficult to find ofono and connman logos in the internet in good condition and easy to re-use | 00:13 | |
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auke | qgil: cuz Marcel sucks at making logos for his projects :) | 00:14 |
qgil | auke: the logos are fine - they are only not packaged conveniently (only the logo, decent quality etc) I wonder who has the source images | 00:15 |
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qgil | auke: the Marcel's stellar careers with project logos started with the BlueZ logo, if anybody here has seen it and remembers it :) | 00:16 |
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CosmoHill | niala: I stopped estimating how long it would take to finished when I started diving by millennia | 00:22 |
CosmoHill | dividing* | 00:23 |
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niala | dividing what? | 00:24 |
niala | you search Pi ? | 00:24 |
CosmoHill | what we have to do for our assignment takes a very very long time | 00:26 |
CosmoHill | but I can't tell you cos this channel is logged and my lecturer does google his own assignments | 00:26 |
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DawnFoster | qgil: check with mrshaver | 00:28 |
CosmoHill | niala: it's like monkeys and type writers only we've replaced the monkeys with a computer | 00:29 |
qgil | DawnFoster: Mike's behind everything! :) | 00:29 |
CosmoHill | it will still take a million years to do | 00:29 |
DawnFoster | qgil: yep :) | 00:29 |
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CosmoHill | cyas | 03:43 |
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Termana | mornign | 03:44 |
Termana | morning* | 03:44 |
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Alison_Chaiken | Hyvaa huomenta. | 03:47 |
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aloisiojr1 | hi all, does anybody know how to point to a specific package version in a .ks file ? | 05:31 |
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anaZ | lbt: there? | 13:13 |
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shacha | hello yesterday i've installed meego 1.1 but i can't connect to msn account and facebook account doesn't appear ... someone can help me? | 13:45 |
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shacha | someone is having the same problem with facebook status and msn account? | 13:50 |
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shacha | hello yesterday i've installed meego 1.1 but i can't connect to msn account and facebook account doesn't appear ... someone can help me? | 14:03 |
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shacha | hello yesterday i've installed meego 1.1 but i can't connect to msn account and facebook account doesn't appear ... someone can help me? | 14:10 |
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esmirlin | hello, is facebook status plugin available on meego 1.1? | 14:22 |
impje | @esmirlin Not yet I think | 14:23 |
esmirlin | impje: and what about msn? i try to connect but i got a message saying some error :S | 14:24 |
impje | esmirlin: did you manage to get an internet connection? | 14:24 |
esmirlin | yes, actually i'm connect to my facebook and irc account... | 14:25 |
esmirlin | just msn doesn't work | 14:25 |
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esmirlin | i though server and port are incorrects but with 1.0.4 it works i can't guess why :S | 14:26 |
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impje | hm, can't help you there, I didn't succeed yet in establising an internet connection -> did you use the settings screen or throught the terminal? | 14:29 |
esmirlin | impje: settings screen... have no ide of how to do it throught the terminal lol | 14:29 |
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impje | hm, I will have to try again then | 14:30 |
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impje | have to go now, bye | 14:30 |
esmirlin | bye! | 14:31 |
esmirlin | what about msn? i try to connect but i got a message saying some error :-S | 14:31 |
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impje | oops, wrong channel, thought we were talking about the N900 :S | 14:33 |
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slowness | Hi, I found that Meego 1.1 has been released for N900 phones, great to hear it! My deal is that, does any try to install meego 1.1 using this method http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/NAND? I think about, does it really card mmc is needed? | 14:37 |
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mikecomputing | slowness, looks intresting I have to n900 maybe I will get sometime to test it. I probadly should be faster than MMC but I havents seen a NAND image for 1.1 so not sure it will work | 14:43 |
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mikecomputing | to meant I havbve two n900:s :-P | 14:43 |
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slowness | mikecomputing: ok, so in this case I need to go buy mmc card :) | 14:45 |
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mikecomputing | slowness, yep but make sure its fastest mmc u can get cause staring apps from MMC is dogslow | 14:47 |
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CosmoHill | bonjour niala | 14:49 |
niala | hello CosmoHill | 14:49 |
niala | youpi c'est le week end | 14:49 |
CosmoHill | youpi? | 14:49 |
niala | yeah | 14:50 |
CosmoHill | i mean what does it mean | 14:50 |
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niala | youpi = yeah (mostly say that) | 14:51 |
niala | a children world | 14:52 |
CosmoHill | oh I see | 14:52 |
dm8tbr | looks like an onomatopoeia to me | 14:52 |
niala | word... waouh I need café | 14:52 |
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CosmoHill | you need a café?! | 14:53 |
CosmoHill | wouldn't a coffee be easier to get? | 14:53 |
niala | café=coffe | 14:53 |
CosmoHill | oh I see | 14:54 |
* dm8tbr already had an mokka today, now it's coffee time :) | 14:54 | |
niala | I went to bed to late this morning!!! lol aspirin will help me | 14:55 |
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niala | CosmoHill: premier league this we? Reading vs ? | 15:09 |
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CosmoHill | niala: the one below it | 15:12 |
CosmoHill | niala: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_1/9129194.stm | 15:12 |
CosmoHill | niala: www.cosmo1847.co.uk << Me in my Reading FC shirt :) | 15:13 |
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Termana | CosmoHill, http://www.cosmo1847.co.uk/?page=server has a spelling mistake, it should say "and now it runs a home-brew" instead of "and not it runs a home-brew" | 15:17 |
niala | CosmoHill: :( my team is in national, that mean L1->L2->Nationnal sad | 15:17 |
CosmoHill | thanks Termana | 15:18 |
CosmoHill | you have no idea how many years that typo will have been there :p | 15:18 |
Termana | :p | 15:18 |
CosmoHill | try now | 15:19 |
Termana | CosmoHill, much better! :p | 15:20 |
niala | CosmoHill: you are 8e maybe you will be european next year. It will be funny a olympique marseille vs reading | 15:21 |
Termana | CosmoHill, Though I think the pages are outdated anyway, aren't they? (The information on them) | 15:21 |
CosmoHill | I don't get new computers often :( | 15:21 |
niala | ohh it's #meego here lol MeeGoFoot :) | 15:21 |
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niala | can we develop a Qtmeego reading football score ? | 15:22 |
Termana | niala, you can develop any application you like | 15:22 |
CosmoHill | maybe format the BBC's RSS feed | 15:22 |
niala | difficult? | 15:23 |
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niala | qweb I suppose | 15:23 |
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niala | webkit ? | 15:24 |
niala | I m noobs in devel | 15:24 |
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lbt | anaZ: pong | 15:39 |
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CosmoHill | DawnFoster: http://applegeeks.com/comics/viewcomic.php?issue=128 | 16:04 |
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anaZ | lbt: in boss, where do I define the workflow and process? | 16:07 |
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lbt | we have a git repo that holds the various processes | 16:08 |
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lbt | process==workflow in BOSS | 16:08 |
lbt | that's then 'launched' | 16:08 |
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anaZ | and where is that repo? | 16:11 |
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anaZ | lbt: is that documented somewhere? | 16:12 |
lbt | we use an OBS launcher called robogrator | 16:12 |
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lbt | which uses the event key to look in a directory for a suitable process to launch | 16:12 |
lbt | I think that bit is nokia internal at the moment | 16:13 |
anaZ | and where is all of that? | 16:13 |
lbt | the process that it | 16:13 |
anaZ | hehe | 16:13 |
anaZ | great stuff | 16:13 |
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anaZ | ok, so what do I need to do to get going? | 16:14 |
lbt | it runs against nokia internal systems... so it's not really useful outside | 16:14 |
anaZ | boss is running, it gets events from obs, but I have no idea how to make it do anything useful | 16:14 |
lbt | OK ... sec | 16:14 |
anaZ | and the README/INSTALL are hmmm, do not have any info either, just guiding you through installation, which is not required if you install from RPMs anyways | 16:15 |
anaZ | Ok, thanks | 16:15 |
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lbt | msg'ed you a pastie | 16:16 |
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lbt | I'll ask if we can do this in a more open way... | 16:17 |
lbt | up 'til right now no-one has been that interested :) | 16:18 |
* lcuk has bopped you a few times recently | 16:18 | |
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lbt | yeah... I meant to actually implement | 16:19 |
* lcuk has been bopping you cos I want to use it :P | 16:19 | |
CosmoHill | I just read a 500 page comic mostly backwards | 16:19 |
lbt | anaZ: in general : http://github.com/jmettraux/ruote/wiki/overview | 16:19 |
lcuk | CosmoHill, i didnt know memento had been made into a comic | 16:20 |
CosmoHill | ? | 16:20 |
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lcuk | CosmoHill, watch the movie.read the description of it ;) | 16:51 |
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CosmoHill | niala: kick off in 7 mins | 16:53 |
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esmirlin | hello! is there a meego channel in spanish? | 18:15 |
esmirlin | as i have some questions... | 18:15 |
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th0br0 | esmirlin: try asking here. there should be some spanish speakers around | 18:17 |
esmirlin | fist i tried to add the comunity repository... using zypper and then i get the following message: Repository type can't be determined. | 18:17 |
esmirlin | the second one is that msn can't connect and i don't understad why | 18:17 |
th0br0 | what is the command you use when adding the repository? | 18:18 |
esmirlin | sudo zypper addrepo ftp://volkoff.ru/repo/meego/i386/ "Community Repo" | 18:18 |
esmirlin | my third question: is it possible to install google gears into meego? | 18:19 |
th0br0 | http://forum.meego.com/showpost.php?p=9469&postcount=5 the only reference for that i have is this link there... he reported something similar but it didn't work out... try doing a "community" instead of "Community Repo" alhtough I doubt that will change anything | 18:20 |
th0br0 | meego doesn't use firefox so, nope. therei s no gears for chrome on linux unfortunately | 18:21 |
th0br0 | and regarding msn, no idea. | 18:21 |
esmirlin | th0br0: i did the community stuff and i got the same | 18:21 |
esmirlin | how can i deleted them btw? | 18:22 |
th0br0 | mh no idea then. maybe try again later once the repository has been updated. (or wait until someone with more knowledge replies). | 18:22 |
th0br0 | delete what? | 18:22 |
esmirlin | the repos i added | 18:22 |
th0br0 | if the repo actually had been created, have a look in /etc/zypp/repos.d | 18:22 |
th0br0 | s/had/has/ | 18:22 |
infobot | th0br0 meant: if the repo actually has been created, have a look in /etc/zypp/repos.d | 18:23 |
th0br0 | s/has/was/ | 18:23 |
th0br0 | ^^' | 18:23 |
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esmirlin | ok done | 18:25 |
esmirlin | and have you tried msn on meego 1.1? | 18:25 |
th0br0 | nopr | 18:26 |
th0br0 | *nope | 18:26 |
niala | hello th0br0 | 18:26 |
th0br0 | hello niala | 18:26 |
esmirlin | i get a message that i don't know translate into english... Error de red | 18:26 |
th0br0 | esmirlin: which app are you using for msn? | 18:26 |
esmirlin | the one that come with meego, empathy i think | 18:27 |
milliams | It means "network error" I believe. | 18:27 |
th0br0 | error de red should be connection error or so | 18:27 |
th0br0 | yeah milliams | 18:27 |
esmirlin | cause i would like to install pidgin but i don't know if it fits in the people tab | 18:27 |
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Qantourisc | jikes this channel is huge ! | 18:30 |
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Qantourisc | Anyone knows if it's easy to replace the kernel to support other hardware ? like say in in qemu to test ? | 18:31 |
esmirlin | so no idea of the msn problem? can anyone just try to connec in order to figure out i it's just my problem or is a general one? | 18:31 |
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Qantourisc | esmirlin: in belgium i'm here connected | 18:31 |
esmirlin | Qantourisc: tu parles français? c pour un privé pour t demander qqchose... g du mal avec l'anglais lol | 18:32 |
Qantourisc | esmirlin: ca marche en belgique le msn | 18:32 |
esmirlin | Qantourisc: peut tu m'indiquer le "port" et le "server" que tu as dans tes options? | 18:33 |
Qantourisc | pour msn ? | 18:33 |
esmirlin | oui | 18:34 |
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Qantourisc | je ne sais pas, normalement le msn client sais ... | 18:34 |
Qantourisc | vous avez besoin de la information ? | 18:34 |
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esmirlin | Qantourisc: alors tu peut entrer dans le menu ou tu choisis ajouter une compte et dans les options avancées de msn y a marqué le port et le server... je veux les savoir pour prouver si je les ai mal mis... | 18:35 |
Qantourisc | d'accord je va regarder a le source de bitlbee un instant | 18:36 |
niala | esmirlin: server methode http: gateway.messenger.hotmail.com server:messenger.hotmail.com port:1863 | 18:36 |
Qantourisc | est aussi mes excuses pour mon francais | 18:36 |
Qantourisc | a voilla niala a diter nous | 18:36 |
esmirlin | Qantourisc: t'inquète pas... chui espagnol :P | 18:36 |
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niala | it would be fun to know from where come the people on irc | 18:37 |
Qantourisc | BE | 18:37 |
esmirlin | ES | 18:37 |
Qantourisc | (Dutch) | 18:37 |
lcuk | i tell people I am from Earth | 18:37 |
niala | fr | 18:38 |
Qantourisc | i come from the womb | 18:38 |
niala | yes we to lcuk | 18:38 |
esmirlin | niala: msn works for you? | 18:38 |
niala | esmirlin: yes | 18:38 |
lcuk | niala, has anyone ever come close to realising the truth? | 18:38 |
niala | lcuk ? | 18:39 |
esmirlin | still don't... i don't understand cause on meego 1.04 it worked :S | 18:39 |
niala | x files? | 18:39 |
niala | esmirlin: ' m on 1.1 it work | 18:40 |
Qantourisc | is there an easy way to test-run meego ? | 18:40 |
niala | usbstick | 18:40 |
Qantourisc | and boot in ? | 18:41 |
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Qantourisc | or does it has a kernel with general drivers ? (then i can run it on qemu) | 18:41 |
th0br0 | DE actually ;) | 18:41 |
esmirlin | and someone guess why it can be? :S how desperated gets me linux :( | 18:41 |
niala | Qantourisc: wich version do you want to test | 18:42 |
Qantourisc | v1.1 ? | 18:42 |
niala | handset, netbook, ivi | 18:42 |
niala | ? | 18:42 |
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Qantourisc | what does ivi do ? | 18:42 |
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niala | In Vehicule Infotainment | 18:44 |
Qantourisc | hmmm | 18:44 |
Qantourisc | i'll quess handset and netbook | 18:44 |
niala | for spaceship :) like star trek | 18:44 |
Qantourisc | no actually only handset | 18:44 |
leinir | GENIVI, or as they will be known in two hundred years or so, LCARS ;) | 18:44 |
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niala | handset in a virtual environment or n900 (other correct me if I m wrong) & netbook on usbstick Qantourisc | 18:45 |
esmirlin | and do you know if i can connect to msn throught jabber? | 18:45 |
Qantourisc | esmirlin: one can | 18:45 |
Qantourisc | esmirlin: but the server needs a msn gateway installed | 18:46 |
Qantourisc | (on the server) | 18:46 |
esmirlin | like messenger.hotmail.com and 1863? | 18:46 |
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Qantourisc | esmirlin: no how to explain it | 18:46 |
esmirlin | pk? | 18:47 |
Qantourisc | esmirlin: the server you connect to me@somejabberserver.com | 18:47 |
niala | CosmoHill: bad day for Readin fc | 18:47 |
Qantourisc | the owners of somejabberserver.com need to have software installed to allow connecting to msn | 18:47 |
CosmoHill | it started well then went very bad but now it's alright | 18:47 |
dm8tbr | jabber/xmpp has so called 'transports' | 18:47 |
esmirlin | and any explaination of how to fix msn protocol? | 18:48 |
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Qantourisc | esmirlin: haven't done it yet sorry :/ usually the server's webpage explains sutch info, someone smarter then me might now though | 18:48 |
niala | CosmoHill: oh yes 3-3 I m not updating :) | 18:49 |
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Qantourisc | i'll use video's instead :) | 18:51 |
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CosmoHill | niala: finnished 4 - 3 to Reading :D | 19:03 |
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niala | CosmoHill: champagne! | 19:21 |
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CosmoHill | :D | 19:21 |
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CosmoHill | that would bring us up two places to 6th | 19:22 |
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JKL_ | hi. any idea why wireless interface is nto showing up in my asus 901? | 19:36 |
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fcrochik | anybody here can help me with a question on how to install the sdk/qemu? | 19:56 |
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riot | hiya. | 20:03 |
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niala | fcrochik: have you read http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_SDK_Development_Options http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_SDK_with_QEMU | 20:12 |
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fcrochik | niala: yes...that is what I am trying to follow. That is what I get when I try to create the target using the handset image: Can not find qt installation in meego-handset-sdk-20101012-1.1.80.20101024.1603-sda-sysroot | 20:15 |
ssldan | hi, are repos for meego v1.1 populated with apps as I am unable to find openoffice suite via yum zypper or packagekit frontend ? maybe some repos are disabled by default ? | 20:15 |
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q_ | hi, is there any way to speed up boot time? (thats why I chose mobilin, but my boottime droped from 16s to way more with meego and its versions...) Maybe I can use something like "-profile" at boot to shedule caching? | 20:16 |
CosmoHill | q_: I don't think they've focused to much on quick boot times for the 1.1 release | 20:16 |
q_ | CosmoHill, to bad, i might go back to mobilin... | 20:17 |
lcuk | q_, whats the boottime for you now? | 20:17 |
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lcuk | CosmoHill, the concentration has already been done as part of moblin ? | 20:17 |
CosmoHill | there was a lot of focus on getting Moblins boot times as small as possible | 20:18 |
q_ | lcuk, 20 seconds to login and another 20 seconds to mutter (but now I have encryption enabled (which should encrypt onle the home folder, but maybe all needs to be decrypted?)) | 20:18 |
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lcuk | q_, so it was 16 seconds to mutter before? | 20:18 |
lcuk | or 16 seconds to login | 20:19 |
q_ | yes, but without encryption and login i have to admit | 20:19 |
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lcuk | if it was 16seconds to login dialog | 20:19 |
q_ | 16 to mutter | 20:19 |
lcuk | it doesnt sound like a drastic regression | 20:19 |
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lcuk | how did you login? | 20:19 |
q_ | i think it logged in automatically | 20:19 |
CosmoHill | q_: could you run the bootchart program? | 20:19 |
ssldan | q_: on my friend's toshiba nb100 with moblin 2.1, boot time from power on to moblin desktop is 18 sec (hdd) | 20:20 |
q_ | CosmoHill, i had problems with it in moblin, does it run OOTB in Meego 1.1? | 20:20 |
CosmoHill | OOTB? | 20:20 |
q_ | out of the box | 20:20 |
CosmoHill | I don't think bootchartd would come pre-installed on Meego as it's a development tool | 20:21 |
CosmoHill | but you should be able to install it via the package manager | 20:21 |
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q_ | ok... I had problems with another lib back than.... | 20:21 |
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niala | ohh facebook disappeared from status-panel ? | 20:29 |
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q_ | CosmoHill, bootchart works :) is gnome.screensav supposed to eat a lot of CPU on startup? | 20:32 |
CosmoHill | I don't see why it should | 20:33 |
CosmoHill | most people don't need a screen saver when booting | 20:33 |
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q_ | I'll see what heappens when i disable the screensaver (dont need it anyway) | 20:33 |
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q_ | why are the settings in "accessories" not in "system" ? | 20:34 |
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CosmoHill | q_: I have no idea but it sounds like a bug | 20:35 |
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q_ | CosmoHill, the screensaver is also the screenlocker = login window | 20:38 |
q_ | so it's really the decryption that takes 8-9s | 20:38 |
q_ | :/ | 20:38 |
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q_ | ok, so how can i disable encryption without reinstalling everything? | 20:43 |
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CosmoHill | at the very lease you're going to have to format something | 20:43 |
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q_ | a new user maybe? | 20:43 |
CosmoHill | is it /home or /home/user that is encrypted? | 20:44 |
q_ | ompossible I guess ^^oh dear, i will just reinstall | 20:44 |
q_ | i dont know | 20:44 |
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sfriqueu | hey guys, i just have a question | 20:52 |
sfriqueu | it is possible to install meego as dual-boot ? | 20:52 |
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sfriqueu | using multi-boot ? | 20:52 |
q_ | yes | 20:52 |
q_ | uhm | 20:52 |
sfriqueu | how ? | 20:52 |
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q_ | i dont wknow, what is multiboot? | 20:52 |
CosmoHill | yes | 20:52 |
sfriqueu | is an package from maemo | 20:52 |
CosmoHill | how is a much harder question | 20:52 |
sfriqueu | i had nitdroid as dualboot | 20:53 |
sfriqueu | hahaha | 20:53 |
q_ | sfriqueu, so you have a mobile device? | 20:53 |
CosmoHill | first of all, x86 or n900? | 20:53 |
sfriqueu | CosmoHill, | 20:53 |
sfriqueu | yeah | 20:53 |
sfriqueu | n900 | 20:53 |
sfriqueu | sorry, my bad | 20:53 |
CosmoHill | yes that can be dual booted | 20:53 |
q_ | I'm a netbook user only, sry i cant help :) | 20:53 |
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sfriqueu | CosmoHill, how ? | 20:53 |
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sfriqueu | as you said | 20:53 |
sfriqueu | much harder hahaha | 20:53 |
riot | So, what about qemu-gl on debian? | 20:53 |
sfriqueu | i so in the website | 20:53 |
sfriqueu | i can use the flasher | 20:53 |
sfriqueu | but once i reboot, i can't get it again, only if i flashe again right ? | 20:54 |
CosmoHill | http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/MMC | 20:54 |
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sfriqueu | i read this | 20:56 |
sfriqueu | bu not for 1.1, let me ready again | 20:56 |
sfriqueu | i read that while ago | 20:56 |
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sfriqueu | they say, not reocmede to flash the kernel on device | 20:57 |
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sfriqueu | CosmoHill, have you did it ? | 20:59 |
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alecjw | hi, anyone know why my n900's stuck on waiting for root device? | 21:01 |
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CosmoHill | sfriqueu: no. I don't own a n900 | 21:02 |
sfriqueu | those instrus are pretty much the same i read | 21:02 |
sfriqueu | but i would like have it dualboot, but seens to dangers | 21:03 |
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CosmoHill | sfriqueu: http://blip.tv/file/4296208 | 21:04 |
niala | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PQDZypO-5Y&feature=player_embedded | 21:06 |
niala | oh to late | 21:06 |
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niala | s/to/too | 21:07 |
CosmoHill | hmm, that's the same video | 21:07 |
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CosmoHill | litterary, someone has downloaded the video I linked to and uploaded it to youtube | 21:07 |
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niala | CosmoHill: will nexts phones better than a n900? It's possible? | 21:09 |
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niala | I hesitate to buy one | 21:10 |
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CosmoHill | try them out at the shop and read reviews | 21:13 |
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riot | um, torrents for the SDK images would be nice. I'm getting only ~100 kb/sec here.. | 21:14 |
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niala | I think better to wait christmas, but one day n900 will not be product . I don't know | 21:14 |
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CosmoHill | one day the n900 will be a cheap phone you got off ebay for your kids | 21:14 |
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CosmoHill | but for now it's £480 | 21:15 |
niala | right lol | 21:15 |
niala | that's why I hesitate, | 21:15 |
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niala | I wait for un an hologram-phone | 21:16 |
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CosmoHill | Nokia should be announcing their MeeGo handsets in Q1 2011 | 21:16 |
riot | yeah, right, i'll wait for a tricorder. | 21:16 |
CosmoHill | I'd like a face to face conversation | 21:17 |
riot | nokia is sooo late. The markets exploded about a year ago. | 21:17 |
CosmoHill | riot: what market and what country? | 21:17 |
niala | I doubt that the next will be better than n900 .. wait and see like say english people :) | 21:17 |
CosmoHill | just because it's next doesn't mean it's the successor | 21:18 |
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CosmoHill | that reminds me, my friend has a Nokia 5500 and Nokia Esomething which got sent to his house | 21:18 |
CosmoHill | but he didn't buy them and nobody has paid for them | 21:18 |
niala | CosmoHill: ah the futur is not better in our world? lol | 21:18 |
riot | CosmoHill: if i knew. I still run with an old e51. But around me everyone either owns stupid, locked up and scary iphones or creepy google devices. | 21:18 |
riot | and my n810 won't run meego, afaik. | 21:19 |
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CosmoHill | erm | 21:20 |
CosmoHill | there's something about for the n8x0 | 21:20 |
riot | is there any reason why the sdk takes 2 hours to download? | 21:20 |
CosmoHill | yes, you're ISP hate you | 21:20 |
riot | CosmoHill: aw, c'mon.. 400 mhz without _ANY_ gl | 21:20 |
riot | CosmoHill: i doubt that. Strongly. | 21:20 |
riot | my isp even gave me 2 mbits more than promised. | 21:21 |
CosmoHill | mine gave me -6 | 21:21 |
riot | and, no, i'm not torrenting. | 21:21 |
riot | but if i were, i'd do 8 mbits. | 21:21 |
CosmoHill | do you want to link me to the file you are downloading? | 21:21 |
riot | http://download3.meego.com/sep09/meego-netbook-ia32-1.0.80.12.20100727.1-sdk-pre0901.raw.tar.bz2 | 21:21 |
lcuk | riot, 400mhz is more than enough cpu power to get man to the moon :P | 21:21 |
riot | lcuk: yah, i know. But not enough for making a phone call, apparently. | 21:22 |
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lcuk | and diablo + telescope shows that 3d isnt essential | 21:22 |
lcuk | riot, sure it is, its more cpu power than most phones | 21:22 |
riot | lcuk: and thats the same for almost every "smartphone" manufacturer out there | 21:22 |
niala | 250 kb/s | 21:22 |
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CosmoHill | 4MB/s | 21:22 |
CosmoHill | :) | 21:22 |
riot | so, meego has some weird peerings. Their isp hate them, not me. | 21:22 |
riot | or maybe they hate mine | 21:23 |
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CosmoHill | gone down to 1.4MB/s | 21:23 |
niala | CosmoHill: normal you are closer :) | 21:23 |
CosmoHill | now 3 | 21:23 |
CosmoHill | my connection goes via paris | 21:24 |
riot | yes, on my server in Frankfurt i get 1,8 mb/s.. thats mean :( | 21:24 |
riot | hmm. whatever. The SDK's probably not running away. | 21:24 |
dm8tbr | millibit per second, that's horrible! | 21:24 |
niala | CosmoHill: well maybe I can stop downloading my holiday movies :) | 21:24 |
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CosmoHill | riot: as soon as I'm finished I'll mirror it | 21:25 |
quitte | does meego use network-manager? | 21:25 |
niala | bouh ;) 150kbs | 21:25 |
CosmoHill | quitte: comman | 21:25 |
quitte | ?? | 21:25 |
riot | CosmoHill: torrents would be nice. At least for the lesser often published netbook image | 21:25 |
niala | well, it's an hold image no ? | 21:26 |
riot | when i have it, i'm gonna put up one. | 21:26 |
CosmoHill | I'm an idiot | 21:26 |
CosmoHill | (nobody agree with that!) | 21:26 |
riot | oh my, don't write that. :( | 21:26 |
niala | CosmoHill: lol why | 21:26 |
CosmoHill | riot: http://cross-lfs.org/~cosmo/meego/ | 21:26 |
CosmoHill | oh wait now | 21:27 |
quitte | CosmoHill: i'm not sure. was comman a name of a package or something? | 21:27 |
niala | CosmoHill: did you try smeegol ? | 21:27 |
dm8tbr | connman? | 21:27 |
riot | CosmoHill: same speed ;) | 21:27 |
CosmoHill | niala: yes it's odd | 21:28 |
CosmoHill | the graphics screw up sometimes, other times it won't work at all and sometimes it logs you out straight away | 21:28 |
niala | odd? | 21:28 |
niala | ok | 21:28 |
CosmoHill | I have to drop into command line sometimes | 21:29 |
quitte | hmm. so connman basically reimplements network-manager? | 21:29 |
niala | replace (I'm right?) | 21:29 |
quitte | why? | 21:30 |
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CosmoHill | niala: I think you're right | 21:31 |
niala | quitte: good question, I am glad that you ask | 21:32 |
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quitte | looking at the about connman webpage i don't see anything that makes connman more suitable for embedded devices or even what the difference to nm is. | 21:34 |
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niala | quitte: I think it's about devel network-manager too complicated | 21:35 |
Myrtti | there was discussion about that in the spring at the Collaboration Summit but I forgot what | 21:35 |
quitte | something like a R2-PO? | 21:35 |
niala | well I know R2d2 but no R2-PO :) | 21:35 |
quitte | C3PO. the translator part | 21:36 |
niala | :) | 21:36 |
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CosmoHill | hey slaine | 21:46 |
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alecjw | oooh meego changes your screen orientation using the accelerometer | 21:57 |
alecjw | nice | 21:57 |
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alecjw | very slow though... could that be because its running off an SD card? | 21:58 |
Stskeeps | sgx drivers need upgrade, we're blocked by a crash bug so cant integrate yet | 21:59 |
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CosmoHill | has anyone benchmarked IO performace on internal and external memory? | 21:59 |
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lcuk | Stskeeps, please get whatever infoand sources you have documented | 22:00 |
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alecjw | hmm | 22:04 |
alecjw | how do i shutdown in meego? =/ the power button does nothing and i dont know the password to do sudo poweroff | 22:05 |
Stskeeps | n900? | 22:05 |
alecjw | yup | 22:05 |
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Stskeeps | hold down power button for quite a while | 22:06 |
Stskeeps | it is longer than on maemo | 22:06 |
alecjw | ah yeah there it goes | 22:06 |
alecjw | cheers | 22:06 |
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CosmoHill | I swear firefox has a problem with history disappearing | 22:58 |
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ssldan | is it possible to install open office in new meego v 1.1 I can't find it via yum or zypper | 23:37 |
ssldan | thank you | 23:37 |
CosmoHill | vum shouldn't even be avaiable | 23:37 |
leinir | You may be looking for libreoffice | 23:37 |
ssldan | libreoffice is available in meego repos ? | 23:39 |
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