| jo-erlend | interesting software. It ran extremely slowly, but that might have been due to my mmc. It seems to have much bigger focus on portrait mode... That is awesome. | 00:00 |
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| thiago | DawnFoster: are there any celebrations in the office today? | 00:00 |
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| DawnFoster | thiago: we're too tired after getting the release out to party :) | 00:01 |
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| Stskeeps | a celebratory nap might be in order | 00:02 |
| thiago | ok, so dublin it is :-) | 00:02 |
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| gotzl | hey, just tried to get meego 1.1 running over nfs, but i can't figure out which modules fire up the usb net on the n900.... any hints ? anyone ? anything ? | 00:04 |
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| Stskeeps | gotzl: initrd should do that | 00:05 |
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| Stskeeps | DawnFoster: noone announced 1.1 on meego-announce btw | 00:06 |
| auke | gotzl: meego does not support NFS | 00:07 |
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| Stskeeps | auke: well, the n900 kernel + busybox does :P | 00:07 |
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| auke | Stskeeps: cheaters | 00:08 |
| Stskeeps | i do have a pretty good use case for nfs in meego these days though | 00:08 |
| Stskeeps | nfs mount /usr/src and /usr/lib/debug for those bloody debuginfo packages | 00:08 |
| Stskeeps | and don't say sshfs | 00:09 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 00:09 |
| DawnFoster | Stskeeps: actually, we're working on that - quim tried to send it twice - never arrived. | 00:10 |
| DawnFoster | I'm going to try it | 00:10 |
| Stskeeps | i was a little surprised to find it empty :) | 00:10 |
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| auke | Stskeeps: ftp! oh wait... ;) | 00:11 |
| auke | crfs? | 00:11 |
| Stskeeps | crfs? | 00:11 |
| auke | crfs! | 00:11 |
| Stskeeps | btrfs over nbd? | 00:12 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 00:12 |
| auke | pretty much | 00:12 |
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| Stskeeps | i wouldn't mind a iscsi client at times.. | 00:13 |
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| DawnFoster | Stskeeps: ok, it just went out | 00:14 |
| Stskeeps | yep, saw :) | 00:14 |
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| ssldan | hi all, I am about to make a new install on friend's netbook that has moblin 2.1 installed and to replace it with meego v1.1. I am curious is there support for 3g/hsdpa usb modems in this latest release? Is it visible through ofono/connman or to continue /failback to using wvdial and scripts ? | 01:19 |
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| CosmoHill | cyas | 02:23 |
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| lolloo | hi Meego fans | 02:50 |
| lolloo | can I use maemo and Meego at the same time on N900? | 02:51 |
| lolloo | can I multiboot them on my device? | 02:51 |
| apol | i asked that a while ago | 02:52 |
| apol | dual boot is not officially supported yet (there's no doc) | 02:53 |
| apol | http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/MMC | 02:53 |
| apol | that's the wayy to do it | 02:53 |
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| lolloo | oh right, thanks apol | 02:55 |
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| meego_man | sup fewls | 03:35 |
| meego_man | what's poppin | 03:35 |
| meego_man | I'm trying to learn what Meego is? | 03:35 |
| auke | http://meego.com/ | 03:36 |
| auke | ~meego | 03:36 |
| infobot | well, meego is http://meego.com an opensource distribution for netbooks and mobile devices | 03:36 |
| meego_man | hrmm | 03:36 |
| meego_man | interesting | 03:37 |
| meego_man | so, not for desktop computers ? | 03:37 |
| meego_man | or laptops? | 03:37 |
| auke | is a laptop a mobile device? | 03:37 |
| meego_man | no | 03:37 |
| meego_man | so, it's for mobile devices ONLY | 03:38 |
| meego_man | ? | 03:38 |
| meego_man | is it just Ubuntu with different name? | 03:38 |
| auke | do you have a laptop with intel graphics chipset? | 03:38 |
| meego_man | maybe different flavor of freebsd ? | 03:38 |
| meego_man | yessir | 03:38 |
| auke | well then | 03:38 |
| auke | do this | 03:38 |
| meego_man | ok | 03:38 |
| meego_man | tell me | 03:38 |
| auke | go download the 1.1 netbook image | 03:38 |
| auke | and try it | 03:38 |
| meego_man | hrmm | 03:38 |
| meego_man | i don't know if that's gonna happen | 03:39 |
| meego_man | was really hoping to get some info here | 03:39 |
| meego_man | without downloading viri | 03:39 |
| auke | meego is linux | 03:39 |
| auke | pfff | 03:39 |
| auke | dude, go try it first | 03:39 |
| meego_man | hrm | 03:39 |
| meego_man | i dunno | 03:39 |
| meego_man | tell me this | 03:39 |
| meego_man | can i use it to run a server on my phone ? | 03:40 |
| auke | after you try it, I might tell you. | 03:40 |
| auke | goodbye, I have to leave | 03:40 |
| meego_man | i think you'll tell me now | 03:40 |
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| meego_man | fuck u then | 03:40 |
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| meego_man | and fuck meego | 03:40 |
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| Jucato | O.o | 03:42 |
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| lolloo | whats Nokia official openion about Meego on N900? | 03:55 |
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| sivang | hmm, so if geoclue is he positioning engine in MeeGo, how does it play with Mobility location services? | 04:07 |
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| sivang | or, is it the engine to which Mobility plugs in | 04:07 |
| sivang | ? | 04:07 |
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| sofar | you're supposed to use the QtMobility api to access the geolocation information, and not know anything about how it's implemented below that | 04:10 |
| sivang | sofar: sure, but I'm intereste to know about Geoclue's engine, since during some talks about mobility I attended it seems you can use multiple sources of informatoin including OVI's navtech et al | 04:11 |
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| sofar | sivang: I see | 04:20 |
| sofar | well basically it's an information provider to qtmob | 04:21 |
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| sofar | but, geoclue is widely documented on it's own webpage | 04:21 |
| sivang | sofar: okay, that what I thought. and it draws its data from open source information providing projects? | 04:21 |
| sivang | sofar: like open streets maps, or example | 04:22 |
| sivang | *for | 04:22 |
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| sofar | http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/GeoClue really answers all that | 04:22 |
| sofar | check it out | 04:22 |
| sofar | front page is very informative already | 04:22 |
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| sivang | sofar: thanks! | 04:25 |
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| sivang | sofar: is dbus communication so thin and light that it is used so extensively,even on embedded platforms? | 04:26 |
| sofar | reasonably, yes | 04:26 |
| sofar | apart from that, there's no way around it really | 04:27 |
| sofar | as a form of IPC, it's majorly taken over | 04:28 |
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| sivang | sofar: I see, I had some observations it sometimes brings Maemo on a performance jerk, but I guess there isn't much way aroud it, I just wonder if IPC could be minimized in terms of APIs | 04:32 |
| sivang | sofar: so use it as less as possible, but it seems every new thing is dbus'd | 04:32 |
| sivang | sofar: especially if multiple events arrive at the same time and UI is trying to cope up with... | 04:33 |
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| sivang | sofar: I mean, if there's a good contract, why IPC need be used? permission elevation? | 04:34 |
| sivang | sofar: please be adviced I might be looking at this too naively | 04:34 |
| sivang | sofar: ACLs are a good use case, though | 04:34 |
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| sivang | sofar: anyway, I'm re-crossing my time zone which is not good ;) Leave replies and I Will check them on my backlog. thanks for you hints. | 04:35 |
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| twinkie_addict | hi im considering weego for my soon to arive dell mini 10 was wandering how it would work and if it has suport to play some light games on it like zsnes for example | 04:44 |
| sofar | it should mostly work, wireless may be an issue depending on the wireless chipset | 04:44 |
| sofar | assuming you'll install the netbook image on it | 04:45 |
| sofar | there's a live ISO so you can try it before installing | 04:45 |
| twinkie_addict | cool | 04:45 |
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| twinkie_addict | its a relativly modest lil thing with 1.66 ghz atom 1gig of ram 250 gig hd not sure on wireless chipset has sd lots and usb but heck i only payed 42 dollers for it though att | 04:47 |
| sofar | bundle deal? | 04:47 |
| twinkie_addict | ships with win 7 starter | 04:47 |
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| twinkie_addict | just activation and 35 doller data plan | 04:48 |
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| twinkie_addict | not that ill use the data plan much cinse ill have it on wifi | 04:48 |
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| twinkie_addict | im donating an old pc i have to a freind i just need somthing to do web stuff play zsnes and mana world on | 04:50 |
| twinkie_addict | the 42 ontime cost for the netbook is good as with out 2 year plan it over 400 | 04:51 |
| twinkie_addict | how does meego handle flash ? | 04:52 |
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| sofar | meego supports flash in the netbook build | 05:02 |
| sofar | there's no zsnes play program although it should be trivial to install it or compile it | 05:03 |
| twinkie_addict | cool | 05:03 |
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| blackrock | Hello meegoers | 05:22 |
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| blackrock | Is it possible to replace my Symbian with MeeGo now? | 05:25 |
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| MeeGoExperts | blackrock: No. | 05:43 |
| blackrock | MeegoExperts: Then when would it be possible? | 05:44 |
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| * jay_bee waves | 05:55 | |
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| MeeGoExperts | Blackrock: Theres no definite upgrade path for Symbian to Meego at present. | 05:58 |
| MeeGoExperts | Jay_bee: Not comfortable waving back. I hope you understand. | 05:58 |
| jay_bee | heh... no worries | 05:58 |
| MeeGoExperts | Lol | 05:59 |
| jay_bee | congrats to the 1.1 release! now all I need is to get my 16gb micro sd back from my friend I loaned it to... | 05:59 |
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| MeeGoExperts | Even a 4Gb will do, but most important is that is a fast card opposed to the size tbh. | 06:00 |
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| jay_bee | but then considering I got it so long ago, it was probably a class 2 card... so it's probably time to upgrade to class 6 or better | 06:00 |
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| MeeGoExperts | SNAP ! | 06:00 |
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| MeeGoExperts | All the millions of cards I've got, I've only got 1 class 4 | 06:01 |
| jay_bee | so after class 6 is class 10 or is there also class 8? | 06:01 |
| MeeGoExperts | never heard of class 8. | 06:02 |
| jay_bee | k | 06:02 |
| jay_bee | brb | 06:02 |
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| jay_bee | re | 06:14 |
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| thiago | DawnFoster: around? | 06:32 |
| DawnFoster | thiago: always :) (and thanks for the chocolate) | 06:33 |
| DawnFoster | thiago: having fun in Portland? | 06:34 |
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| thiago | DawnFoster: yeah | 06:35 |
| thiago | we had indian food for dinner then came back to the hotel | 06:36 |
| thiago | we're now sitting by the fire at the lobby | 06:36 |
| thiago | not as fancy as skamania, but it will do :-) | 06:36 |
| DawnFoster | thiago: sounds nice - it's been a little rainy, so inside by a fire is probably a pretty good place to be right now | 06:37 |
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| thiago | yep, it is | 06:38 |
| thiago | did you like the chocolate? | 06:38 |
| Jucato | hm .. chocolate ... | 06:39 |
| DawnFoster | I just tried a piece - it's delicious! | 06:39 |
| * thiago likes Norwegian chocolate too | 06:40 | |
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| thiago | I bring it to people because they seem to enjoy it too | 06:40 |
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| DawnFoster | everybody likes chocolate :) | 06:41 |
| thiago | unfortunately, you wouldn't like the one I prefer the most (the name directly translates to "milk chocolate") | 06:41 |
| DawnFoster | especially good chocolate | 06:41 |
| DawnFoster | now, suddenly I'm in the mood for wine :) | 06:41 |
| * timoph is allergic to chocolate | 06:41 | |
| Jucato | milk chocolate is great :) | 06:41 |
| Jucato | though I seem to prefer white (milk) chocolate most | 06:41 |
| DawnFoster | timoph - oh no! | 06:42 |
| Jucato | timoph: ouch :( | 06:42 |
| timoph | yep. :( | 06:42 |
| thiago | I also avoid the chocolate with nuts for gifts. I know some people are allergic. | 06:43 |
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| thiago | mint sounded like a safe bet though | 06:43 |
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| Jucato | I kinda know how you feel. I'm allergic to seafood but everyone around talks about how I'm missing much | 06:44 |
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| Jucato | thiago: I still find mint chocolate a bit weird, but not as weird as chili chocolate | 06:44 |
| Jucato | (or whatever that's called) | 06:44 |
| thiago | lol | 06:44 |
| thiago | how about chocolate pizza? | 06:44 |
| Jucato | O.o | 06:45 |
| timoph | :) | 06:45 |
| Jucato | I hope you mean chocolate in the form/shape of pizza | 06:45 |
| Jucato | and not pizza topped with chocolate ... | 06:45 |
| DawnFoster | I actually like chili chocolate - like mexican spicy chocolate, I assume you mean? | 06:45 |
| pixelgeek | thiago: You should try Pizza Schmizza while you're here | 06:45 |
| Jucato | I think. we don't have that here, so I'm totally unaware of what it even tastes like | 06:45 |
| Jucato | that and I have a very low tolerance for spicy stuff :) | 06:46 |
| pixelgeek | They have fun toppings like potato and spaghetti on their pizzas | 06:46 |
| Jucato | pixelgeek: and chocolate? :) | 06:46 |
| thiago | Jucato: no, I meant pizza topped with chocolate | 06:46 |
| DawnFoster | ha - I also like chili pepper drinks - like hot pepper infused vodka and the like. | 06:46 |
| * pixelgeek checks their menu | 06:46 | |
| DawnFoster | thiago: hmmmm, not sure about that :) | 06:46 |
| Jucato | thiago: ok, as long as there's no tomato sauce or cheese :P | 06:46 |
| thiago | no, there isn't | 06:46 |
| thiago | the pizza is simply a delivery platform for the chocolate | 06:47 |
| Jucato | then that's ok I guess. I mean after all we do have chocolate on bread, and pizza dough is just like that :) | 06:47 |
| thiago | like banana pizza and icecream pizza | 06:47 |
| Jucato | fried ice cream ... | 06:48 |
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| pixelgeek | mmmm.. baked alaska | 06:48 |
| * jay_bee chuckles at thiago | 06:48 | |
| thiago | yes, but then it has a different name | 06:48 |
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| thiago | it's just "flamed" | 06:48 |
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| pixelgeek | Congrats to the team on the 1.1 release BTW | 06:50 |
| DawnFoster | oh good, I was picturing tomato sauce, cheese and little bits of chocolate floating on top | 06:51 |
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| DawnFoster | chocolate on some pizza crust would be a little like a huge chocolate chip cookie | 06:51 |
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| thiago | it's a desert pizza | 06:51 |
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| * jay_bee nods at Dawn | 06:52 | |
| Jucato | DawnFoster: yeah I was worried about the too. good thing thiago clarified :) | 06:53 |
| Jucato | oh yeah, congrats on 1.1 especially handset UX :) | 06:53 |
| DawnFoster | Jucato: I know - it sounded really gross at first :) | 06:53 |
| DawnFoster | geez, I just had dinner and you guys are making me hungry | 06:53 |
| Jucato | haha! I just had lunch as well. too full to be hungry though. but I am somewhat craving for a warm chocolate drink :/ | 06:54 |
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| * jay_bee replaces the latest nightly trunk qt fennec 4 with the gtk version on his n900 | 06:54 | |
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| pixelgeek | Time to break out the halloween candy... | 06:54 |
| * thiago has only had this kind of pizza in Brazil | 06:54 | |
| * Jucato finds fennec still sluggish even on maemo5 on the n900. | 06:55 | |
| Jucato | jay_bee: you mean the fennec on the handset ux is using Qt? | 06:55 |
| thiago | Jucato: that was microb | 06:55 |
| jay_bee | i'm running maemo5 | 06:55 |
| Jucato | thiago: microb on meego 1.1 handset ux? | 06:55 |
| thiago | no, maemo5 | 06:56 |
| jay_bee | i hope to have meego running on my n900 sometime next week | 06:56 |
| Jucato | thiago: ah nah. I was really referring to fennec :) | 06:56 |
| Jucato | I installed it from their repo | 06:56 |
| * thiago still needs to upgrade to PR1.3 on his N900 | 06:56 | |
| jay_bee | pr1.3 rox | 06:56 |
| Jucato | faster than on maemo4 but still more sluggish than microb | 06:56 |
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| thiago | fennec with qt makes some ... interesting... design choices | 07:04 |
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| Jucato | "interesting". nice choice of words :) | 07:06 |
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| Jucato | though I'm still wondering why 1) the netbook UX still uses google chrome (looking at the download links) or 2) we're not using webkit (since I thought it would be the obvious choice given there's QtWebkit, or that S60's latest browser(s) use WebKit too afaik) | 07:08 |
| thiago | the browser is device-specific | 07:09 |
| thiago | each vendor chooses what they want to ship with | 07:09 |
| thiago | sometimes, it's also about the brand | 07:09 |
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| jay_bee | yeah if i ever install the netbook ux, chrome is the first thing to be uninstalled, if possible | 07:10 |
| thiago | as for QtWebKit, can you point to a good browser for handset devices? | 07:10 |
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| Jucato | thiago: I had thought Nokia would be developing one. but point taken :) | 07:12 |
| * Jucato is also somewhat locked in to using fennec because of Sync | 07:12 | |
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| jay_bee | i need to figure out how to use sync to perform the sync's locally and not over the intarnetz | 07:13 |
| Jucato | iirc you can install sync on your own, for example a local server. my friend has that, but I don't know how he set it up | 07:14 |
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| jay_bee | hmm... local server eh? i'll look it up | 07:16 |
| pixelgeek | random question - is anyone hosting a meego VM? | 07:17 |
| pixelgeek | (image) | 07:17 |
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| pixelgeek | or do I have to download the mic-image-creator and create my own? | 07:19 |
| thiago | DawnFoster: oh, now I remember: some people are asking for MeeGo t-shirts | 07:21 |
| thiago | are there some left in the office? | 07:21 |
| DawnFoster | thiago: I think so. Amy should be able to hook you up with some t-shirts | 07:21 |
| DawnFoster | we might have some at the dev days booth - again, Amy would know :) | 07:21 |
| jay_bee | ooh... i'd love to have a meego t-shirt... but then i'm not running it yet... | 07:22 |
| thiago | I'll talk to her tomorrow them | 07:22 |
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| thiago | thanks | 07:23 |
| Jucato | oh btw, is there a policy or style guidelines for creating your own MeeGon? :) | 07:23 |
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| DawnFoster | Jucato: http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Style_Guide | 07:23 |
| DawnFoster | and http://wiki.meego.com/Meegons | 07:24 |
| Jucato | awesome! thanks :) | 07:24 |
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| Jucato | jay_bee: now that you mention it ... I'm still on the "wait and see" level, but very much excited about MeeGo. Maybe I'll also "wait and see" before trying to get a cute customized MeeGon :) | 07:26 |
| Jucato | haha I see leinir's meegon in the list! :) | 07:27 |
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| * thiago likes the one on crashdb | 07:29 | |
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| pixelgeek | ah... um... I guess this answers my question - http://wiki.meego.com/Build_Infrastructure/Sysadmin_Distro#The_MeeGo_VM_appliance | 07:32 |
| DawnFoster | yeah, the crashdb guy is my personal favorite | 07:32 |
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| * thiago sees an ad on TV about web-connected printers by HP | 07:34 | |
| thiago | those looked familiar... | 07:35 |
| thiago | they're the ones running Qt :-) | 07:35 |
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| Jucato | thiago: http://www.precentral.net/hp-touts-web-connected-eprint-printers-webos-devices-video ? | 07:38 |
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| Jucato | thiago: while browsing the app manager, I just remembered: <thiago> as for QtWebKit, can you point to a good browser for handset devices? <-- Digia@Web | 09:25 |
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| Mat_Matan | morning | 09:44 |
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| Stskeeps | morn | 09:47 |
| jonni | I updated my wiki page about howto get wifi working with Meego 1.1 & Lenovo S10-3t -> http://rainisto.com/wiki/index.php?title=MeegoS10-3t | 09:49 |
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| Zeddy | hey, im having problems flashing the kernel with the meego firmware | 09:59 |
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| Zeddy | im not getting past the "flasher v2.5.2 (Oct 21 2009) | 10:00 |
| Zeddy | Suitable USB device not found, waiting." text | 10:00 |
| Stskeeps | take out usb cable on both sides, make sure the n900 is really dead, insert usb cables | 10:00 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:00 |
| Zeddy | are the instructions correct? What im doing is removing the battery, placing it back along with the cover. then i plug my device via usb and start the flasher | 10:00 |
| Stskeeps | should be good enough | 10:00 |
| Zeddy | when i plug in the usb cables the device seems to start up | 10:01 |
| Stskeeps | but nothing on pc side? | 10:01 |
| Zeddy | no | 10:01 |
| Stskeeps | are you running flasher as root? | 10:01 |
| Zeddy | hmm ill try that. :D | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | also, it's not in a vm or something right.. | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:02 |
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| Zeddy | meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.1-vmlinuz-2.6.35.3-10.3-n900 | 10:03 |
| Stskeeps | yes, looks right | 10:03 |
| Zeddy | i was kinda hoping for a "select operating system" step in the boot process :p | 10:04 |
| Zeddy | im guessing it wont take long untill someone codes trhat | 10:04 |
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| Zeddy | so ur absolutely sure i should not start up the device or anything | 10:05 |
| Stskeeps | quite sure, the usb plugging in would be enough | 10:05 |
| Jucato | start the flasher first before plugging the device | 10:05 |
| Zeddy | yeah i did that now | 10:06 |
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| * Jucato himself forgot to read the part about putting back the battery cover first :) | 10:06 | |
| Zeddy | C:\Program Files (x86)\maemo\flasher-3.5>flasher-3.5.exe -l -k meego-handset-arm | 10:06 |
| Zeddy | v7l-n900-1.1-vmlinuz-2.6.35.3-10.3-n900 -b | 10:06 |
| Zeddy | does that look right? | 10:06 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 10:06 |
| Jucato | is that the equivalent of "as root" on windows? | 10:07 |
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| Zeddy | i started the command prompt with administrator rights so i guess that would be the equivalent of "as root" | 10:07 |
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| Zeddy | btw | 10:08 |
| Zeddy | is windows 7 not supported by the maemo flasher? | 10:08 |
| Zeddy | cause thats what im using :p | 10:08 |
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| Zeddy | supported operating systems: - Windows XP with SP3 and Vista with SP2 | 10:08 |
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| Jucato | I would presume it's also supported :) | 10:08 |
| Zeddy | "What version of Windows are you using? Take note that Maemo Flasher doesn't work with 64-bit versions of Vista and Windows 7" | 10:10 |
| Zeddy | lmao | 10:10 |
| Zeddy | that explains it | 10:10 |
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| Zeddy | so i should use the on device solution then, i dont even have any virtual machines at the moment | 10:10 |
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| Jucato | not possible to run cmd as in 32-bit mode or something? | 10:11 |
| Stskeeps | might be, don't know | 10:11 |
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| Zeddy | Jucato, yes by using c:\windows\SysWow64\cmd.exe | 10:14 |
| Zeddy | i tried that but did not help | 10:15 |
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| Zeddy | "for windows 7 user, first reboot your PC, press F8, select option “Turn off signed drivers”….is ready for flash." | 10:16 |
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| ilembitov | Where could I find the highlights of Meego 1.1 for Netbooks? | 10:18 |
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| Zeddy | ok that didnt solve the problem | 10:22 |
| Zeddy | how long should it take exactly for it to find the device? :p | 10:22 |
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| Stskeeps | fairly quick | 10:23 |
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| Zeddy | nope nothing seems to help | 10:34 |
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| Stskeeps | Zeddy: that's weird - boot up with a linux livecd (32bit) and check? | 10:35 |
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| Zeddy | my computer doesnt have a cd drive :P | 10:36 |
| Stskeeps | sigh | 10:36 |
| Stskeeps | liveusb then | 10:36 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:36 |
| Zeddy | i think ill just wait for the meego team to fix the issues and then try again | 10:36 |
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| Stskeeps | i'm from the meego-n900 team and i can tell you flasher isn't acting as it shoul | 10:36 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:37 |
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| Zeddy | i tried disabling driver signing completely, running in 32 bit mode, running with admin priviledges and so on.. nothing | 10:37 |
| Zeddy | Stskeeps, oh :P | 10:37 |
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| Zeddy | well it seems that the problem is well known with the maemo flasher | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | well | 10:39 |
| Zeddy | i found alot of topics conserning windows 7 64 bit and the flasher | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | with 64-bit in general | 10:39 |
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| Zeddy | ill just install xp mode and run that | 10:41 |
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| dneary | Hi mmeeks | 11:19 |
| dneary | et al | 11:19 |
| mmeeks | dneary: Dave ! :-) | 11:20 |
| dneary | Yessir? | 11:20 |
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| mmeeks | dneary: I saw some rumours of Java goodness tonight that made my copyrights-on-APIs blog post from some months back look strangely prescient ;-) | 11:20 |
| dneary | Did you see how prescient and non-committal I was back in 2007? | 11:20 |
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| mmeeks | file:///home/michael/activity/blog/2010-08-16-java-copyrights.html | 11:21 |
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| mmeeks | dneary: heh :-) so - let us scratch each other's backs then ;-) | 11:21 |
| * mmeeks finds a non-file URL | 11:21 | |
| dneary | You shouldn't have to wait for people to notice when you have foresight - "I told you so" should be OK sometimes (just to remind people to listen next time) | 11:21 |
| mmeeks | http://people.gnome.org/~michael/blog/2010-08-16-java-copyrights.html | 11:21 |
| dneary | Weird - I have a network connection over wifi on this laptop (obviously, I'm talking to you) but no DNS | 11:23 |
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| dneary | mmeeks, I'll read it | 11:25 |
| dneary | What are the rumours? | 11:25 |
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| dneary | Oh wow | 11:32 |
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| dneary | mmeeks, Yes, I remember reading that & thinking "maybe Michael's just being paranoid", but now that you say it, specs as copyrighted material has potential for mayhem | 11:33 |
| dneary | Although, surely one could clean-room the specs | 11:33 |
| dneary | Starting from the raw API | 11:33 |
| lorenzo_ | hi there | 11:33 |
| lorenzo_ | got a general question on bug fixing | 11:34 |
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| mmeeks | dneary: well - if you have to implement the spec - you have to have the same APIs, methods, parameters etc. | 11:35 |
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| dneary | mmeeks, Surely tyhat's classic fair use? | 11:36 |
| lorenzo_ | is it strictly necessary to use an OBS system to do bug fixing? | 11:37 |
| dneary | Although... I guess we do copyright headers | 11:37 |
| Stskeeps | lorenzo_: technically you can do it on device too | 11:37 |
| dneary | sorry for the OT discussion, everyone except mmeeks :) | 11:37 |
| Stskeeps | dneary: we discuss bacon at times, java apis is ok too | 11:38 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:38 |
| lorenzo_ | Stskeep: do you mean simply rebuilding the library and installing it every time on the device | 11:38 |
| Stskeeps | lorenzo_: for instance, or doing it in a osc chroot | 11:39 |
| dneary | mmeeks, But of course, the expression of the spec (Java class definitions) are available under a FaiF license (twice!) | 11:39 |
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| dneary | So asserting ownership for Android would simultaneously (surely) be asserting a copyright infringement by Harmony? | 11:40 |
| Stskeeps | lorenzo_: http://wiki.meego.com/User:Stskeeps/10_easy_steps_to_a_local_OBS | 11:40 |
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| lorenzo_ | Stskeeps: great, I'll give it a try, thanks | 11:41 |
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| dneary | mmeeks, Your paragraph "but you can't copyright APIs" - turns out that people do all the time, now I think of it. And I'm a big fan of your footer link re. the Swedish Conspiracy | 11:46 |
| dneary | Stskeeps, Do you know about the swedish conspiracy? | 11:46 |
| mmeeks | dneary: lol ;-) | 11:46 |
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| sivang | lbt: so it feels in no time will be in this sad situation for newbs installing community apps outside of the compliance? https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9089 | 12:41 |
| povbot | Bug 9089: Upgrading Maemo itself (nokia official recommended upgrade) failed with "no enough space" on target device. | 12:41 |
| _MeeGoBot_ | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9089 is not accessible | 12:41 |
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| sivang | heh, povbot needs to tech _MeeGoBot_ to fetch the bugs according to the shortened URLs | 12:42 |
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| Stskeeps | andre__: it's possible to hide individual comments? interesting | 12:45 |
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| andre__ | Stskeeps, sure it is | 12:45 |
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| sivang | hey andre__ :) | 12:45 |
| andre__ | heja | 12:46 |
| sivang | and Stskeeps | 12:46 |
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| andre__ | Stskeeps, can you see comments 27 and 28 in https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3809 ? | 12:48 |
| povbot | Bug 3809: Typing occasionally slows to a crawl, lags input | 12:48 |
| _MeeGoBot_ | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3809 maj, High, 1.1, ningxin.hu, VERI FIXED, Internet Panel panels fail to lanuch | 12:48 |
| Stskeeps | andre__: good point | 12:49 |
| andre__ | yay, povbot triggers MeeGoBot. sigh | 12:49 |
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| lcuk | andre__, the "insider group" will need to be extendable if they want to see Stskeeps porn collection | 12:54 |
| andre__ | lcuk: that's something to discuss with the maintainers, but you have a valid point here | 12:55 |
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| lcuk | tho frankly, putting sensitive information on something and trusting admins to maintain the locks on that data is folly | 12:56 |
| lcuk | one accidental opening and carstens favorite websites are known to everyone | 12:56 |
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| andre__ | I don't see a problem. Good things should be shared. | 12:59 |
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| lcuk | lol | 12:59 |
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| zabouka | hello i have some problems with meego on my asus 1005PE, the thing is that internal microphone doesnt work, nor the hot keys... and the screen is too dark... i've read that addin add acpi_osi=Linux to the kernel boot parameters the dark thing can be arranged but no idea of where i do have to add it... anybody can help me? | 13:01 |
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| zabouka | hello i have some problems with meego on my asus 1005PE, the thing is that internal microphone doesnt work, nor the hot keys... and the screen is too dark... i've read that addin add acpi_osi=Linux to the kernel boot parameters the dark thing can be arranged but no idea of where i do have to add it... anybody can help me? | 13:04 |
| dm8tbr | repeating yourself will not get you more answers. repeating yourself will not get you more answers. | 13:05 |
| dm8tbr | patience might though | 13:05 |
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| zabouka | sorry lol | 13:05 |
| zabouka | i'm despereted.... been all nith trying to find the file where add this thing :S | 13:06 |
| andre__ | bootmanager configuration? | 13:06 |
| zabouka | yes | 13:06 |
| zabouka | andre__: but where is it? | 13:07 |
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| andre__ | zabouka, my guess is /boot/extlinux/extlinux.conf | 13:10 |
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| zabouka | it didn't work :( | 13:25 |
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| zabouka | someone has meego on asus 1005pe? | 13:26 |
| andre__ | zabouka, what? | 13:26 |
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| lcuk | zabouka, http://wiki.meego.com/Devices | 13:27 |
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| zabouka | lcuk: i have nothing to do with that list... i already know mine is compatible | 13:30 |
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| lcuk | zabouka, if its fully compatible, whats your problem? | 13:31 |
| lcuk | if its not, please add some notes onto that page | 13:31 |
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| hena | i've had meegon on my hp 110 now for a while and i'm quite fond of it | 13:32 |
| hena | just with i had a touchscreen and 720p resolution | 13:32 |
| hena | wish | 13:32 |
| zabouka | lcuk: the prolem is that screen is too darky, i used to use ubuntu and it also arrives... but changing grub configuration i solved the problem... here in meego... no idea of how i change it... can i show you what i did on ubuntu and you tell me if it's possible to do into meego? | 13:33 |
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| andre__ | zabouka, maybe check the extlinux manual what options it provides... | 13:38 |
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| lcuk | zabouka, I do not know how to fix your device, and posting links to my PM box unsolicited wont help | 13:38 |
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| lcuk | I was just trying to help by pointing to the device compatability table incase someone else had marked similar issues | 13:39 |
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| lcuk | the 491 people here might know more >> | 13:39 |
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| ruskie | trying to boot meego 1.1 handset on the n900 of the microsd... in a word... doesn't work... | 14:03 |
| ruskie | followed this: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/MMC | 14:03 |
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| ruskie | I can see the sd card has the 2 partitions one as btrfs | 14:03 |
| ruskie | can mount that one an it works | 14:04 |
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| ruskie | seems to be just stuck at the nokia screen | 14:05 |
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| ruskie | I tried core as well but that claimed it didn't support btrfs for root | 14:05 |
| Jucato | you shouldn't even see the nokia screen afaik | 14:05 |
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| stephg | ruskie: the trunk (1.1.80) is broke at the moment | 14:06 |
| ruskie | stephg, ok.. .but what about 1.1? | 14:06 |
| ruskie | that was what I downloaded | 14:06 |
| stephg | when you ran flasher-3.5 did it output anything? | 14:06 |
| ruskie | yeah | 14:06 |
| ruskie | sends the kernel | 14:06 |
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| ruskie | hmm I think I'm using the wrong kernel | 14:07 |
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| stephg | you should try this image & kernel: | 14:07 |
| stephg | http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.1/handset/images/meego-handset-armv7l-n900/ | 14:07 |
| ruskie | yup | 14:07 |
| stephg | anything else, you're going to have trouble with at the moment I'm afraid | 14:07 |
| ruskie | have those | 14:07 |
| ruskie | yeah... was calling the wrong kernel | 14:07 |
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| ruskie | had two | 14:08 |
| stephg | good luck with the right one ;) | 14:08 |
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| ruskie | meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.1.80.3.20101026.1-vmlinuz-2.6.35.3-9.5-n900 and meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.1-vmlinuz-2.6.35.3-10.3-n900 | 14:08 |
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| ruskie | :) | 14:08 |
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| ruskie | I take it it takes a while to display any GUI(assuming it has one) when running from a class4 card | 14:09 |
| stephg | the first boot is slower than subsequent ones for a bunch of reasons | 14:09 |
| ruskie | ok | 14:09 |
| stephg | but yes, the GUI isn't particularly quick to come first time | 14:09 |
| ruskie | really just need a way to access the rootfs of the device and fix my blunder... as in run a depmod on the right dir | 14:09 |
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| stephg | well if you dd'd the right iamge to your SD card | 14:10 |
| stephg | you only need to reflash with the right kernel | 14:10 |
| ruskie | I'm trying to save from reflashing the root | 14:10 |
| stephg | again: if you flashed the 1.1 release (not 1.1.x development) you only need to run flasher again | 14:11 |
| stephg | not DD | 14:11 |
| ruskie | I meant for m5 ;) | 14:11 |
| stephg | hmm. exactly what was your flasher command ;) | 14:11 |
| ruskie | I rolled my own m5 kernel and forgot to run a depmod on the modules dir | 14:12 |
| ruskie | so I can't boot using that | 14:12 |
| stephg | aha | 14:12 |
| ruskie | so trying to get it done this way | 14:12 |
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| aguitel | is meego running fine in acer aspire one d260 ? | 14:13 |
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| lcuk | aguitel, the 250 is on the supported devices list, no mention of the 260 | 14:15 |
| lcuk | http://wiki.meego.com/Devices | 14:15 |
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| Jucato | ruskie: I actually just reflashed my n900 a few minutes ago. something went wrong with the webos games thing :) | 14:17 |
| ruskie | hmm how can I gain root in meego 1.1? | 14:18 |
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| Tumi_ | isn't it root/meego? | 14:19 |
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| ruskie | ahh | 14:19 |
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| stephg | yeah not sudo but su at the moment | 14:21 |
| chem|st | ruskie: have you tried to flash the std m5 kernel only? | 14:23 |
| ruskie | yeah won't work simply because there is no modules for it to use | 14:23 |
| ruskie | it boots but doesn't go passed that | 14:23 |
| chem|st | ah so you got no modules at all atm? | 14:23 |
| ruskie | they are in a diff dir... | 14:24 |
| chem|st | lol | 14:24 |
| chem|st | ok that sounds ugly | 14:24 |
| ruskie | yup | 14:24 |
| chem|st | is there a way to export / in R&D mode? | 14:25 |
| ruskie | well I'm booted in meego atm | 14:25 |
| ruskie | but can't mount anything from any of the mtdblock devices | 14:25 |
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| ruskie | o mount an ubifs volume, one does not directly access the underlying nand device (mtd). The exact procedure depends on the kernel and the state of the used backport. You need to do an ubiattach first. <-- and there is no ubiattach that I can see | 14:29 |
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| aguitel | lcuk, the question is the sd card reader | 14:34 |
| aguitel | lcuk, in ubuntu/debian is not working | 14:34 |
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| ruskie | so no ubiattach no way to access the rootfs | 14:39 |
| lcuk | aguitel, why are you asking here if its a debian/ubuntu problem? :p | 14:40 |
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| aguitel | lcuk, coz maybe meego solve this | 14:42 |
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| lcuk | aguitel, sure, since the 250 is marked as compatible, it would be good if you could try it on the 260 and report back then | 14:43 |
| aguitel | ok | 14:43 |
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| MeeGoExperts | How can I give feedback regarding the install instructions for meego on N900 ? | 15:02 |
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| MeeGoExperts | Afternoon all btw :-) | 15:02 |
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| lcuk | MeeGoExperts, type away, preferably show link to the instructions you are on about. if the changes make sense the wiki can be updated | 15:03 |
| MeeGoExperts | Lol @ type away !! I love it | 15:05 |
| lcuk | MeeGoExperts, its your meego too :) | 15:05 |
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| MeeGoExperts | "If you see the message shown in 6, then connect the N900 with USB cable to your PC and the flash should start automatically" <<— Surely we need to keep "U" pressed on the Nokia N900 keyboard before we connect the USB cable ? | 15:06 |
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| MeeGoExperts | :-) | 15:06 |
| MeeGoExperts | http://meego.com/devices/handset/installing-meego-nokia-n900 | 15:07 |
| Stskeeps | MeeGoExperts: no | 15:07 |
| Stskeeps | its only in case you have a stupid os that doesnt like usb device changes | 15:07 |
| Stskeeps | ive never used u, personally | 15:07 |
| MeeGoExperts | I could'nt get mine to work off a mac without it. | 15:08 |
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| arthurc | hello, I want to test meego 1.1 in a kvm virtual machine. Is it ok in 64 bits ? | 15:09 |
| milliams_ | arthurc: I've been having problems but maybe other have managed to get it to work. | 15:10 |
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| arthurc | let's test | 15:10 |
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| ruskie | hmm does meego 1.1 already charge the n900? | 15:12 |
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| Stskeeps | yes, just not with wall charger | 15:13 |
| MeeGoExperts | Thanks for the feedback guys. Starving. Food. Gotta go :-) | 15:13 |
| lcuk | Stskeeps, i guess the mac version of the flasher isnt detecting mode | 15:13 |
| lcuk | even though we do not need the U variation since battery insertion works so well everywhere, its potentially still required to be documented? | 15:14 |
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| lcuk | Stskeeps, also to many people mac os is far fro ma stupid os | 15:19 |
| ruskie | omg... managed to save my install through meego | 15:19 |
| thiago | lcuk: the fact that most people don't see the stupidity doesn't mean it isn't stupid :-) | 15:20 |
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| thiago | like when doing a benchmark of thread locking primitives on Mac and losing to a virtual machine running Linux with the same test on the same Mac | 15:20 |
| lcuk | thiago, what about benchmarks that matter to people in general :P | 15:21 |
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| lcuk | "can i upload videos" "can i watch youtube" "do my screens look slick and inviting" :P | 15:22 |
| thiago | what, you don't run applications that start 10 threads and try to race each other to 2000 locks? :-) | 15:22 |
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| lcuk | thiago, my apps just start quickly | 15:23 |
| lcuk | if every app is doing as you said, no wonder people complain about speed :P | 15:24 |
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| Jef91 | I see meego 1.1 is on distrowatch, what is n900 support like with this release? | 15:55 |
| ruskie | it'll run | 15:59 |
| ruskie | beyond that... 10 minutes of fun | 15:59 |
| Myrtti | it's for developers, end users get only a limited amount of joy out of it | 16:00 |
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| Jef91 | Ahh thanks for the input. | 16:10 |
| Jef91 | Think we will ever see a functional n900 under it? | 16:10 |
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| Myrtti | sure | 16:11 |
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| Myrtti | 1.1 just isn't it | 16:11 |
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| Jef91 | Good good. | 16:16 |
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| htraki | Hi, I have some questions about Meego. 1, How Can I install it on my harddrive, of course dual boot ? 2, Can I set other language as english? | 16:39 |
| Joppeffs | yes and yes | 16:40 |
| Joppeffs | i assume you are talking about meego on netbook | 16:40 |
| htraki | I have a nettop MSI Wind Nettop 120 XP with Intel Atom N230 | 16:40 |
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| Joppeffs | hmm, check out meego.com and netbooks | 16:41 |
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| Joppeffs | there's a list of supported hardware | 16:41 |
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| htraki | My computer is not listed, but I could run it without problem with Moblin | 16:43 |
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| luist | hey... i upgrade my perl to 5.12.1 and i need new packages perl-DBI and perl-DBD (i was using fedora ones because meego doesnt have them) that requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.1) instead of perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.10.0) that was being provided in the last version of perl that i had... how can i solve this? | 18:51 |
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| jcosta | hello... I just downloaded the MeeGo 1.1, used image-writer to load a usb disk, and booted into a compaq mini 110c, but I got a "Bug in initramfs /init detected. Dropping to a shell. Good luck!"... any ideas? :-) | 19:07 |
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| zaza | hello how can i upgrade from 1.0.4 to 1.1 ? | 19:53 |
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| auke | I'm writing a wiki page about that | 19:56 |
| auke | please stand by until that's finished | 19:56 |
| lcuk | auke, awesome :) | 19:57 |
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| * berndhs figures to wait until the dust settles a little with upgrading to 1.1 | 19:58 | |
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| zaza | auke: thanks dude!!! ill be arround here, just type my name when you will finnished! ^^ | 19:59 |
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| zaza | and what's the difference between 1.0.4 and 1.1? | 20:01 |
| lcuk | 0.0.6 | 20:01 |
| DawnFoster | lcuk: :) | 20:01 |
| zaza | :P | 20:02 |
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| DawnFoster | zaza: This page has release notes which talk about what has changed: http://meego.com/downloads/releases/1.1/meego-v1.1-netbooks | 20:03 |
| DawnFoster | for netbook - other devices are in the sidebar for those release notes | 20:03 |
| lcuk | DawnFoster, in a past life, we used to maintain a release highlights page | 20:03 |
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| lcuk | which we added the top X new things to for each release | 20:03 |
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| lcuk | then you could just read from the top to your current version | 20:04 |
| lcuk | and get to know the best bits since your current one | 20:04 |
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| DawnFoster | would be great to see someone do that in the wiki | 20:04 |
| lcuk | me and boss would always have to rearrange stuff tho, i kept adding technical stuff, it was actually wanted to glance down at the big new features | 20:05 |
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| luist | hey... i upgrade my perl to 5.12.1 and i need new packages perl-DBI and perl-DBD (i was using fedora ones because meego doesnt have them) that requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.1) instead of perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.10.0) that was being provided in the last version of perl that i had... how can i solve this? | 20:11 |
| zaza | do you know how can i install more languages for the corrector? | 20:11 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | MeeGo wins "Best New Open-Source Project" for 2009 or 2010 in Linux Journal's Reader Poll, although Android wins "Product of the Year" and "Best Mobile OS." N900 wins "Best Linux Smartphone." Source: December 2010 issue. | 20:40 |
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| auke | all, I just posted: http://wiki.meego.com/Upgrading_MeeGo_Versions | 20:48 |
| auke | please be careful following the instructions on that page | 20:48 |
| auke | it is not SAFE, nor SUPPORTED to upgrade your system in the way described on that page | 20:48 |
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| lcuk | auke, this is for the netbook i gather | 20:53 |
| lcuk | thanks btw :D | 20:53 |
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| jploh | Is there are a compatible yum repo for meego? Is rpmfusion okay? | 20:55 |
| jploh | Also, does MeeGo have an irc client? | 20:55 |
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| qgil | dear lazy IRC, has anybody checked the actual licensing of the Handset and IVI apps? | 21:05 |
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| qgil | http://meego.com/about/licensing-policy talks since the MeeGo launch about "BSD-style licenses" but I haven't actually checked | 21:07 |
| auke | jploh: yes, meego-netbook has telepathy | 21:07 |
| auke | lcuk: arbitrary - netbook or handset should work no matter what | 21:08 |
| auke | but yes, I wrote it from a netbook perspective | 21:08 |
| jploh | auke: thanks! | 21:08 |
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| qgil | jploh: there is meego-handset-chat too, but I haven't tried it | 21:09 |
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| jploh | qgil: I'm more interested for the netbook as I don't have a handheld to test with. Thanks though! | 21:10 |
| Jucato | qgil: quick question before I fall unconscious from lack of sleep: does that licensing mean that the apps included in the reference UX must be BSD-style license/permissive licenses, therefore can't be GPL? | 21:11 |
| qgil | Jucato: no, as far as I understand it means that the apps the MeeGo project will create / is creating will tend to have this license | 21:12 |
| Jucato | s/must be/must have/ | 21:12 |
| infobot | Jucato meant: qgil: quick question before I fall unconscious from lack of sleep: does that licensing mean that the apps included in the reference UX must have BSD-style license/permissive licenses, therefore can't be GPL? | 21:12 |
| qgil | Jucato: it doesn't restrict non-BSD apps from becoming apps officially supported by the project | 21:12 |
| Jucato | ah | 21:12 |
| qgil | Jucato: Netbook UX has plenty of LGPL apps and I was trying to check the Handset apps but I have no idea how to open a rpm file :) | 21:13 |
| Jucato | "must be under some permissive OSI compatible license" - must be, afaik, in legal speak is quite forceful. but IANAL | 21:13 |
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| Jucato | anyway thanks for the info :) | 21:13 |
| qgil | How can I open http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.1/handset/repos/source/meego-handset-chat-0.2.3-1.17.src.rpm to check the license? | 21:14 |
| Stskeeps | got meego right? | 21:14 |
| qgil | Stskeeps: yes | 21:14 |
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| Jucato | http://www.g-loaded.eu/2008/01/28/how-to-extract-rpm-or-deb-packages/ | 21:15 |
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| andre__ | qgil: On my desktop I simply use /usr/bin/file-roller | 21:16 |
| andre__ | it's Apache License | 21:16 |
| andre__ | according to LICENSE | 21:16 |
| Noobmonk3y | evening qgil, keeps, etc etc :) | 21:16 |
| Stskeeps | qgil: rpm -qp url | 21:16 |
| qgil | thank you everybody :) | 21:17 |
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| lcuk | qgil, http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-handset-ux/meego-handset-photo/blobs/master/LICENSE | 21:19 |
| lcuk | photo has apache license | 21:19 |
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| * lcuk wentdirect to the source | 21:20 | |
| qgil | Stskeeps: rpm -qp http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.1/handset/repos/source/meego-handset-chat-0.2.3-1.17.src.rpm gives "not an rpm package (or package manifest)" heh | 21:20 |
| qgil | thanks lcuk - ok I'll assume "BSD-style" = Apache by default | 21:21 |
| lcuk | http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-handset-ux/meego-handset-chat/blobs/master/LICENSE | 21:21 |
| lcuk | same license for chat :) | 21:21 |
| Stskeeps | qgil: interesting | 21:21 |
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| lcuk | qgil, from what I know, its similar but with differences that only license folks will know more about | 21:23 |
| qgil | lcuk: Apache is a BSD-style license, that's all | 21:24 |
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| thiago | arjan: ping | 21:25 |
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| halvors | Does somebody here have some idea about when i can get an Nokia phone with Meego? | 21:29 |
| auke | ~when | 21:29 |
| infobot | later | 21:29 |
| auke | :) | 21:29 |
| CosmoHill | auke: lol | 21:29 |
| auke | infobot: when is "before christmas, but I won't say which year" | 21:30 |
| infobot | auke: what are you talking about? | 21:30 |
| auke | infobot: forget when | 21:30 |
| infobot | i forgot when, auke | 21:30 |
| auke | infobot: when is "before christmas, but I won't say which year" | 21:30 |
| auke | ~when | 21:30 |
| auke | infobot: lart infobot | 21:30 |
| * infobot takes a large goose feather pillow and swings it wildly in auke's direction, hitting auke and sending auke flying into the closet | 21:30 | |
| halvors | But when :) | 21:30 |
| auke | darn! it's taunting me! | 21:30 |
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| thiago | Nokia has announced that it will announce the MeeGo devices in 2011 | 21:33 |
| CosmoHill | it's announced that there will be another announcement later? | 21:34 |
| thiago | yes | 21:34 |
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| mihero | has announced that they will inform date when they might possibly announce something:) | 21:37 |
| tranqenstein | has anyone seen a good guide on how to multiboot the n900 with meego? | 21:41 |
| qgil | the answer to halvors was 'today' :P http://meego.com/devices/handset/installing-meego-nokia-n900 | 21:42 |
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| tranqenstein | w00t, thanks qgil | 21:43 |
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| evilrob | anyone here successfully installed meego to boot on an n900? | 22:12 |
| milliams | evilrob: Yes, some people have. But not me (I don't own the device). | 22:13 |
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| evilrob | following http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entry/STEP-By-STEP-How-to-Install-MeeGo1-1-on-N900 | 22:13 |
| evilrob | it appears that the raw file wasn't made a correct filesystem. not mounting | 22:14 |
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| milliams | Have you seen http://meego.com/devices/handset/installing-meego-nokia-n900 | 22:14 |
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| krnlklink | is there anyway to install meego 1.1 on a laptop without pae support? Specifically a Dell D400? | 22:16 |
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| Peter__ | HI | 22:29 |
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| CosmoHill | hello | 22:30 |
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| sh0gunk0 | hi | 22:32 |
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| qgil | meet Qt 6100 - codenamed Chicken Sandwich http://www.casio4business.com/sa/products/qt6100/qt6100.html | 22:34 |
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| lcuk | qgil, do you get a hot chicken sandwich if you use the included thermal printer :P | 22:37 |
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| fiferboy | GAN900: Did you ever start that flight info wiki page? | 22:54 |
| GAN900 | fiferboy, haven't touched my desktop in two days. | 22:55 |
| GAN900 | So, no. :D | 22:55 |
| fiferboy | GAN900: wiki doesn't work on N900? :P | 22:55 |
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| Myrtti | fiferboy: have you ever heard of the first rule of Wikipedia | 22:58 |
| Myrtti | it is applicable to any wikis | 22:58 |
| fiferboy | Don't talk about wiki? | 22:58 |
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| Myrtti | {{sofixit}} | 22:58 |
| Myrtti | don't ask why someone hasn't done this or that. ever. | 22:59 |
| Myrtti | fiferboy: I hereby assign YOU to make that wikipage about flight info. | 22:59 |
| Myrtti | GAN900: you're welcome | 22:59 |
| fiferboy | Myrtti: By assigning it to me, you have volunteered to do it | 23:00 |
| GAN900 | Ha | 23:00 |
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| Myrtti | fiferboy: you mentioned it first | 23:00 |
| Myrtti | so it's your problem now | 23:00 |
| GAN900 | fiferboy, it does, but I was implying my time has been rather limited. :P | 23:00 |
| fiferboy | GAN900: I hear that | 23:00 |
| DawnFoster | *thinks that in the time it's taken to have this discussion, someone could have created the wiki page* :) | 23:03 |
| fiferboy | DawnFoster: Most likely someone familiar with wiki markup | 23:03 |
| fiferboy | It has taken me five minutes to figure out how to create a new page :) | 23:03 |
| Myrtti | DawnFoster: I could've probably done it, but I'm not coming to Dublin so... | 23:04 |
| Myrtti | *shrug* | 23:04 |
| DawnFoster | Myrtti: bummer that you aren't coming to Dublin :( | 23:04 |
| Myrtti | yeah, middle of the week is a bit troublesome | 23:05 |
| fiferboy | Now it'll take me 10 more to figure out where to put it | 23:05 |
| Myrtti | there's plenty of other Nomovokians coming though | 23:05 |
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| GAN900 | Myrtti, yes, but it's corporate friendly! | 23:09 |
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| * GAN900 had to fight for time off. | 23:09 | |
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| Myrtti | I didn't even bother, I'd rather spend the Christmas time without the feeling of immediate need of being at work | 23:10 |
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| fiferboy | Okay, there is a basic flight information page | 23:14 |
| fiferboy | Feel free to change it however makes most sense | 23:15 |
| fiferboy | http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Conference_2010/Flight_Information | 23:17 |
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| GAN900 | Myrtti, too bad. | 23:19 |
| GAN900 | Myrtti, hopefully the next one is more community-friendly. | 23:19 |
| * GAN900 doubts it. | 23:19 | |
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| sammyc | Does anyone know where I can find an example EGL/GLES example for meego? | 23:28 |
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| jedix | j #beagleboard | 23:31 |
| jedix | woops | 23:32 |
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| kde3kko | is it just me or is the meego forum down? | 23:34 |
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| auke | hmm | 23:35 |
| fcrochik | Hi... I am trying to install the meego SDK/QEMU (http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_SDK_with_QEMU) but can't find the image I should use with mad-admin ...on the doc says "that you downloaded above".. | 23:37 |
| DawnFoster | I just poked reggie to find out | 23:37 |
| DawnFoster | (about the forums) | 23:37 |
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| DawnFoster | reggie has it all under control - everything should be back up shortly | 23:40 |
| qgil | I just checked and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OFono - impressive! ;) | 23:40 |
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| mihero | should the see also section point to meego instead of maemo? | 23:41 |
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| evilrob | figured out what I did.... I dd'd the meego image that was built onto the partition, not the base device. | 23:43 |
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| kde3kko | still can't figure out how to control qt applications settings. appearance tab seems only to work with gtk ones | 23:48 |
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| UlfHofemeier | Hi | 23:54 |
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| CosmoHill | hello | 23:58 |
| CosmoHill | DawnFoster: any discipline tips for doing assignments? | 23:59 |
| evilrob | so I'm installing on my n900... last step is run flasher. I never get the "Flashing kernel... done." message. the previous line is fine "100% (x of x kB, avg xxxxx kB/s)" | 23:59 |
| evilrob | ideas? | 23:59 |
| DawnFoster | CosmoHill: you mean like stop procrastinating on IRC instead of doing assignments ;) | 23:59 |
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