IRC log of #meego for Monday, 2010-10-25

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UmeaboyHi!01:47
UmeaboyAnyone awake here?01:48
UmeaboyI installed Moblin (a.k.a Meego) in Virtualbox and as I boot I see the Moblin-logo, but nothing else happens.01:49
UmeaboyWhat's wrong?01:49
CosmoHillMoblin != Meego01:51
CosmoHillAlso Meego requires 3D acceleration which virtualbox is unable to support it :)01:52
rittkso comprehensive problem description...01:53
araujoUmeaboy, did you do the step of replacing libglx as explained here: http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_1.0_Netbook_VirtualBox ?01:53
UmeaboyIt's not installed in a netbook.01:54
UmeaboyA desktop.01:55
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rittkwho manages that carrick thing?01:56
araujoUmeaboy, uh?01:56
araujoUmeaboy, those are the instructions to install meego netbook in a virtual box environment (no matter desktop, laptop, whatever)01:57
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UmeaboyOkey.01:58
Umeaboygunzip? Why isn'r unrar used?01:58
UmeaboyAnd does it really matter where I download the so.gz-file TO?01:59
rittkgzip is free, rar isn't01:59
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Umeaboyrittk: The Linux-version of unrar is free. ;)02:00
UmeaboyI AM running Linux.02:00
rittkUmeaboy: right. but how to rar this?02:00
UmeaboyJust wanted to see what Meego looked like with my own eyes.02:00
CosmoHillgunzip, bzip2 and xz :)02:03
rittktry#2: who manages that carrick thing?02:05
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araujo?03:19
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lpotterermmm.. right04:16
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timophMyrtti: thanks for http://blip.tv/file/427533907:54
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foreachHi, most of meego tutorials are failed to build, how to fix it?11:16
lcukforeach, could you narrow it down to specific items and urls perhaps11:17
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lcuksince your single note is not very specific11:17
foreachlcuk, sorry, one moment please11:17
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foreachI installed meego sdk according to this page http://wiki.meego.com/Getting_started_with_the_MeeGo_SDK_for_Linux and then I tried to build this tutorial in QtCreator http://apidocs.meego.com/mtf/tutorial.html But building of this tutorial failed with error like "Could not find QApplicationPage::appear(QScene...) method"11:22
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kedzforeach, QApplicationPage ? that tutorial contains MApplicationPage not QApplicationPage ...11:24
foreachkedz, yes, MApplicationPage11:24
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foreachI also downloaded libmeegotouch source code from http://meego.gitorious.org/meegotouch/libmeegotouch and tried to build examples from there, but almost all of these examples are also failed to build11:27
rittkwho manages the carrick code ?11:27
rittkhi all, btw11:28
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zinitis there an easy way to get the meego image to start in virtualbox?11:33
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zinit(the netbook image that is)11:33
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Bostiksure, when it first starts to boot up, hit esc+e to edit the kernel load cmd11:34
Bostikremove the "quiet" keyword, that should give you some kind of terminal even if the bugger otherwise tries to misbehave11:34
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zinitfirst I need to get virtualbox to accept the .img file... or convert it to .iso so I can boot the VM from it.11:36
zinitrunning debian on my desktop here11:37
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Bostikdidn't it have an .iso to install from?11:38
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Bostiklet's check11:38
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zinitno. just a .img file. (had to dd it to the usb stick to isntall it on my netbook.11:39
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zinitruns great on the aspire one A11011:39
Bostikthat's pretty odd, I installed an from an .iso image but can't find the page11:40
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Bostikhttp://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_1.0_Netbook_VirtualBox11:41
Bostikah, it is an .iso but just with different extension11:41
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zinitthere is on at the opensuse ftp site.11:42
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RST38h'11:43
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zinitdownloading that one now to check11:44
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zinitcrap... the usual: unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your cpu. (the pc is a core2duo...)11:58
zinitworks on the netbook that has an atom, is there a way to trick it to believe the VM is a "appropriate" cpu?11:58
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zinitthere we go:) switch off the intel cpu VM stuff, then it came12:01
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zinitwas PAE that had to be enabled for it to boot the kernel. X wont start though...12:20
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Myrttitimoph: http://blip.tv/file/429106512:22
timophcool12:22
zinitjust hangs isntead of starting X12:23
Myrttithere probably won't be further recordings, I don't have time for doing them12:23
zinitcould be something in grub.conf or the x config12:23
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zinitthe installation went fine though...12:24
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timophMyrtti: I have a cam available so I could record the next sessions12:30
Myrttigreat12:31
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lcukmorning konttori_work \o12:53
konttori_worklcuk, morning12:58
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lcukkonttori_work, at the recent Helsinki meego meetup, there was an overview of QML stuff and there were people from both camps (all qt with qml as binding, or all qml with js for heavy lifting)13:01
lcukwhich side of the fence do you prefer at the moment?13:01
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nialahi,13:05
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konttori_workAh, personally, I see that as case by case. I would honestly prefer that we have a good solid story for the all qml approach (plus plugins for some fancy stuff), and yet, I see many benefits in sometimes doing only ui with qml (also in this case+fancy plugins for fancy stuff).13:07
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konttori_worklcuk, you should have contacted me when you were here in helsinki. I would have loved to have a chat.13:09
lcukyeah konttori_work there was a lovely all qml implementation of a login system, looked very slick13:09
RST38hBut does all-qml approach work at the moment?13:09
lcukwe were both a bit busy, when I spotted you you were heavy in a meeting13:09
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RST38hI've checked QtQuick/QML thing last week and it seems to be missing a lot of stuff (mostly non-UI-related)13:09
RST38hNamely, I have been trying to figure out how to 1) capture a video in QML and 2) submit data via HTTP in QML13:10
konttori_worklcuk, oh crap. next time for sure then.13:10
lcukyeah RST38h I saw that, its just making sure the API can support the usecases required and think it will come with time13:10
lcukabsolutely13:10
RST38hBut I suspect that there are way more scenarios like these13:10
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konttori_workRST38h, the mobility multimedia api caters for the camera cases.13:10
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RST38hkonttori: But is it available from QML?13:11
konttori_workYou should be able to pull it from suitable mobility branch already now.13:11
konttori_workyeah13:11
lcukkonttori_work, it was auto uploading to the youtube live service - direct from an all qml app13:11
RST38hkonttori: Yes, I found the CameraAPI but did not find a way to use it from QML13:11
RST38hMaybe it all requires a better tutorial then...13:11
konttori_workHmm... there should be bindings for it in qml.13:11
konttori_workall mobility APIs are to have QML bindings in mobility 1.113:11
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* lcuk likes how mobility is looking :)13:12
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konttori_workimport Qt 4.713:12
konttori_workimport Qt.multimedia 1.113:12
konttori_workRectangle {13:12
konttori_workwidth: 64013:12
konttori_workheight: 48013:12
konttori_workCamera { anchors.fill: parent }13:12
konttori_work}13:12
konttori_workthat should do the trick.13:12
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lcukkonttori_work, but then you need to grab that data, and push to youtube web api13:12
konttori_work(isn't that just plain beautiful?)13:12
lcukits not just visualising on screen13:12
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lcukqgil was asking, because I believe that robot os has something similar13:13
konttori_workFor that kind of case, you definitely need to do a qt wrapper that takes care of the streaming to the web.13:14
rittkcarrick guys: ping13:14
konttori_workI think we'll have the qt4-gstreamer bindings exposed to qml as well pretty soon.13:14
lcukyup konttori_work and thats part of the limitation with the current qml api13:14
* lcuk nods13:14
konttori_work(dunno the schedule atm), so after that, you might be able to do it all in qml.13:14
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lcukkonttori_work, alterego has also been looking at qml stuff, he has a nice app currently written in qt native and has been digging and investigating and making some nice progress with it, are there any talks at the conference about qml?13:16
konttori_workmeego conference you mean?13:16
lcukyeah13:16
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konttori_workI don't know to be honest. It's completely outside of my radar atm. I'm fully devoted to clearing harmattan.13:17
lcuksure thing, i bet someone else here has a map of the talks and can tell us which may be related to watch for13:18
konttori_workI sent an email to you lcuk  and marco ballesio13:18
konttori_work(about gst qml bindings)13:18
lcukyeah I just giggled a bit13:18
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konttori_workdid you giggle at me making a separation between harmattan and meego, or what?13:20
RST38hkonttori: Ok, so I add that camera thing, but can I then use it to capture video from the JavaScript?13:20
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konttori_workRST38h, I would try to point you to the example if I could find one, but gitorious is misbehaving.13:24
lcukkonttori_work, at the email arriving13:24
konttori_workok13:24
Milhouseknotorri: so is harmattan still happening, or been binned while we wait for MeeGo proper?13:26
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zinitsome of you guys going to the conference in dublin in november?13:28
konttori_workMilhouse, happening. Will be called meego, although, debian packaging and 'old' maemo lower levels.13:30
konttori_workso, I'm keeping them separate in my books.13:30
konttori_workon API and ABI level, they should be compatible, so that makes it possible for marketing to call that still meego.13:31
MilhouseKonttori: yep, aware of the "MeeGo" branding on Harmattan/Maemo6 but after the CEO call last week it wasn't clear to me if it had been ditched in favour of a true MeeGo release sometime next year (H2 2011?). Good to hear it's still on track, but will it be this year (as promised long ago) or has it slipped into 2011?13:33
Milhouse(If you can't say - understood)13:33
konttori_workMilhouse, yeah, I really cannot comment to that in absolutely any way.13:35
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Weasel_is the an application for maemo/meego that enables voice dialling symbian style?13:39
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Weasel_I have to buy a new phone soon, and I haven't found any info about that. Android's voice dialling is no good and I wouldn't like to go symbian anymore.13:46
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zinitWeasel_: havent had any problem with voice dialling on the iphone. (I know. not exacly opensource or anything resembling that... but it works)13:59
zinitthe N8 might have some interesting features..13:59
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foreachhow can I add some widget inherited from QWidget into MApplicationPage?14:06
Weasel_zinit: I wont go iphone because I'm looking for a platform to develop some software for my own specific needs. How iphones voice dialling works? Androids way is: press button on headset, say command "call contact name", verify selection with tap on touchscreen. Symbian way is: press button on headse, say "contact name", phone answers with text to speech repeating contact name and calls contact if not cancelled with headset button14:06
Weasel_Symbian way is very good as I have my hands occupied most of the time when I operate various machinery and I don't have to take the phone out of my pocket14:09
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fredyls14:25
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Weasel_total 15183214:26
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dolpcd ~14:26
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CosmoHillRST38h: you know you helped me with the seed problem I was having14:42
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CosmoHillturns out clock() returns zero :/14:42
RST38hYeah???14:43
CosmoHilloh crap is that the time14:43
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Stskeepsinfobot, haveameegomeeting is book at http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo-Meeting_IRC_Schedule , read http://wiki.meego.com/IRC_guidelines#IRC_Meeting_Guidelines and instructions for MeetBot at http://meetbot.debian.net/Manual.html14:44
infobotStskeeps: okay14:44
Stskeeps~haveameegomeeting14:44
infobotsomebody said haveameegomeeting was book at http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo-Meeting_IRC_Schedule , read http://wiki.meego.com/IRC_guidelines#IRC_Meeting_Guidelines and instructions for MeetBot at http://meetbot.debian.net/Manual.html14:44
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_davidx_Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?14:48
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Stskeeps.. sorry, i failed to parse that sentence?14:48
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_davidx_okay..14:49
_davidx_ima leave now >_<14:49
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ivrubanoI did zypper refresh and zypper update. the problem is that now when I lunching sdk it shows only black screen. can I do something with this?14:51
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MohammadAG51it's buggy14:59
MohammadAG51at least Qr wise14:59
MohammadAG51Qt even14:59
MohammadAG51modest has zoom using volume keys14:59
MohammadAG51err, wrong channel, sorry :/15:00
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lcukkonttori_work, does QML have automagic binding support (even automatic regeneration via introspection), or does it require specific manual code bindings to be created for each class?15:05
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konttori_worklcuk, read: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7/qtbinding.html15:18
lcukthanks konttori_work \o15:18
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konttori_workand for plugins: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7/qdeclarativeextensionplugin.html15:19
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sunderhi, does anyone know how to calibrate evdev15:52
rittkhow to calibrate input driver ?15:53
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Shapeshifterbtw, will meego still cache an application database on the device like maemo or will it use a fast online index like android/iphone?15:57
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Guest81330Hi , I want to install gtk for meego ..what pkg name to be given to KS file [using mic ]16:01
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Weasel_hmm, aava mobile platform seems interesting. I guess device is not available anywhere...16:20
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MyrttiWeasel_: it is available, but the price - when I checked the last time - was in the realm of "interplanetary"16:33
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Weasel_Myrtti: ok, thanks for the info16:55
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sfriquehelo folks16:57
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sfriquemeego wil be realy release in 3 days ?16:57
GAN900sfrique, don't expect a final product.16:57
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sfriqueGAN900, i am not espectinf that16:58
sfriqueGAN900, but will be an useable one ?16:58
* GAN900 guesses not.16:58
GAN900Although that's partially UX dependent.16:58
sfriquei bought my N900 just becasue of meego hahah16:59
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sfriqueanyways, nokias says meego just in 2011 =/17:03
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Stskeepsthis is meego.com :)17:04
GAN900sfrique, MeeGo != MeeGo17:05
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hhurttaone meego will be official one and another meego will be the one hackers shall play with?17:06
Stskeepsmeego.com delivers a platform, vendors build upon it17:07
hhurttasounds awfully lot like how the game was supposed to be played with symbian17:08
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sfriquei am waiting for meego.com but even them don't give much information17:09
thiagohhurtta: device vendors take meego from meego.com and build a device with it17:09
boudhas anyone packaged an app for the version of meego on the wetab yet?17:10
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ddez's!18:12
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lolloohttp://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/ubuntu-moves-away-gnome18:39
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mirfso who's running meego on their n900?18:42
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ahynes1I've chrooted to meego, but nothing more.18:44
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aukealright weekend is over19:18
Stskeepswe had a weekend?19:18
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MyrttiI wish it were weekend still19:41
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berndhsmeego on this beagleboard http://www.newswise.com/articles/beagle-supercomputer-has-landed-in-chicago ?19:48
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qgilReading the Ubuntu Unity news. Does anybody know how much do they rely on Clutter?20:42
Stskeepsthey claim 'mutter' is involved, so i would guess quite..20:43
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Stskeepsah, yes, it's clutter built20:45
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qgilAnd who are the Clutter maintainers nowdays? All Intel employees or more? I mean, Canonical is risking quite a lot with this jump20:47
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Stskeepsdid we find out where matthew allum got hired? :P20:47
miheroalso the new unity is worse then the 10.04 launcher20:48
qgilNow Clutter is an essential piece in GNOME Shell (but it's unclear who will ship it), Ubuntu soon (that means plenty of users) and MeeGo Netbook (no idea about volumes planned and long term plans)20:48
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qgilthis, and the blog from Matt about Qt in Ubuntu sounds like a puzzle I'm still not deciphering20:49
StskeepsGTK+ development isn't always sexy..20:50
qgilwith a push on Netbook UX community development and the MeeGo Extras finally taking off, I could see a bright futore for MeeGo not only ion netbooks but also in bigger screens20:50
toresbeDocScrutinizer: hi. :)20:50
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toresbeSo - and I'm sorry if this is a FAQ but I can't really find an answer - how do I test out meego on the N900?20:51
veliqgil: did you see my msgs?20:51
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qgiloops20:51
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miheromeego netbook ux is better then unity even now, unity loses lots of screen space for the static panel20:53
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javispedrostatic? -- you can at least customize its contents for all I know.20:54
qgilmihero: but that won't move the Ubuntu users to MeeGo Netbook, and I guess they can made that pannel hide just like the top pannel hides in MeeGo20:54
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miherono, it doesn't autohide, that is the problem20:56
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miheroI liked the old launcher they had on 10.04 much more20:59
lcukmihero, thats of course an difference for touchscreen ux - you cant really "hover" in the right place to allow a panel to popup21:00
miherowhen you have a 10" display you don't want to waste 1" from left side to launcher panel21:00
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lcukif you want an expanding/autohide panel it always costs you a swipe21:00
miherothat's true21:00
lcukand for 10" i would not really worry about 1"21:00
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miheroI worry:)21:01
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miherothat's why i changed back to normal desktop and modified it with couple of useful applets21:02
lcuksure21:02
miherobut for the meego netbook edition it is much more usable for non touch netbook21:02
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miherohaven't tested it with touchscreen so can't comment how usable it is that way21:04
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lcukcompletely different use profile, even windows feels wrong on touchscreens ;)21:05
CosmoHillhey lcuk and Alison_Chaiken21:05
lcukwindows 7 X in top right on an upright monitor is hardwork21:05
Alison_ChaikenHey CosmoHill and lcuk too.21:05
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lcukgorilla arm :P21:05
lcukhi CosmoHill and Alison_Chaiken21:05
Alison_ChaikenYou guys going to be at the Conference in Dublin?21:05
CosmoHillI've learnt a little about optimisation today :)21:06
CosmoHillnope21:06
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lcukpotentially21:06
lcukCosmoHill, yeah what did you learn?21:06
CosmoHillwell I had a bit of code that requires a huge ammount of work so he changed some ints to chars and used registers21:07
CosmoHillother than that he didn't change my code to much21:07
lcukmemory writes with chars is a bit off21:07
lcukunaligned accesses makes cpus cry still21:07
CosmoHilloh and because we changed ints to chars we removed type casts which incure an overhead (I didn't know this)21:07
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CosmoHillchars are used for numbers21:07
toresbeI didn't really get an answer... is there a link or anything to a page where there's info on how to test meego on my N900?21:07
CosmoHilltoresbe: there are a few things on the wiki about installing on the n90021:08
lcukhttp://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N90021:08
CosmoHillone of them should be how to boot from the memory card21:08
toresbeAh! There!21:08
toresbelcuk: thanks :)21:08
javispedroCosmoHill: usually,  blindlessly changing ints to chars is not an "Optimization", unless you want to trigger some specific compiler optimization21:09
javispedro(there's a reason fastint_t is an int...)21:09
lcukthe fact you adjusted code to see and found improvement is the best part :)21:10
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javispedro:)21:10
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CosmoHilljavispedro: only small numbers were changed21:14
CosmoHillIE less than 255 (unsigned) or 12821:14
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javispedroCosmoHill: but, depending on your platform, writing a full int might not be any slower than writing a char.21:15
javispedroCosmoHill: either way, as luck put, the best way is to try and measure it :)21:15
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CosmoHillfrom a speed point of view it should be identical (apart form the bit with the casting)21:17
CosmoHillbut from a memory point of view it is an improvement21:17
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toresbelcuk: hm, does it positively require a USB cable? Is there no other way to load the kernel? :\21:20
qgil... anyway, being Intel currently the main Clutter maintainer and being Nokia currently the main Qt maintainer I think MeeGo has odds to score well vs Ubuntu in the short and mid terms21:20
qgil... but the MeeGo Extras is key in the short term, and the AppUp/Ovi/etc can make a real difference21:21
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lcuktoresbe, theres more indepth dualboot stuff being hacked around with and documented atm but its considered a taster only and since the OS is not functionally complete at the moment its enough for most folks.  by all means dig more and find the extra info21:23
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toresbeI just don't have the USB cable, is all :)21:24
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lcukhold on, i have a spare, i will email it to you21:24
toresbeAh, excellent!21:24
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javispedroO.o21:25
CosmoHillhahahaha21:25
toresbeHow's the postage when emailing something of that size?21:25
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lcukqgil, the pr1.3 update today adding qt4.7 support should allow many more compatible qt based apps to be available on ovi for n90021:27
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lcukhave you heard of any titles in development we might see on our n900s? :D21:28
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qgilhi lcuk - yes I know  :)21:30
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qgillcuk: I mean "yes, I know" ref "the pr1.3 update today adding qt4.7 support should allow many more compatible qt based apps to be available on ovi for n900"21:31
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qgilno idea about your second comment21:31
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lcukqgil, I saw revdkathy over the weekend and we had a good laugh at the BCN weekend we all had.  the meego summit early birds stuff looks like an excellent followup21:34
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toresbelcuk: I looked into using "bootmenu", and came across this page - http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/Dual_Boot#Bootmenu_.28optional.2921:37
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toresbebut - where do I put the kernel and what do I name it? :)21:37
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lcuktoresbe, IDK, I did not write that documentation21:38
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qgilI just learned from lazy twitter that Ubuntu unity will move from Clutter to Compiz - interesting http://smspillaz.wordpress.com/2010/10/25/a-bright-new-future-for-compiz/21:45
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joejoehi, i am trying to install meego on sd card and boot it on n900. I proceeds according to http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/MMC , but I can see only kernel panic while booting21:47
aukethere was a bad image that didn't boot21:48
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auketry another image21:48
joejoeI suppose, that problem is that kernel cannot work with btrfs (used on mmc)21:48
joejoei have already tried two images. Could you point me to any working image?21:48
javispedroI've always impressed by Ubuntu's long use of Compiz21:48
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CosmoHilljavispedro: in a good way?21:53
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javispedroyeah, but -- mostly, just surprised.21:54
javispedroit's not like any other distro uses it?21:54
qgiljavispedro: SuSE?21:55
qgilI guess Novell is investing i Xgl and Compiz for a reason21:56
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qgilbtw Novell is another interesting piece in the MeeGo and Ubuntu puzzles21:56
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arjancompiz always looked like a science experiment to me21:57
arjanbut the 0.9 version seems to be the first one where they tried to be "real"21:57
arjanwe'll see where it lands21:57
arjanso far I'm not very impressed by many of the compositors; they all seem to have too much perf overhead21:57
arjanmutter being the one where we spent most time optimizing from any of them I think21:57
javispedroarjan: exactly that same feeling, but it's made it into the default into [-one-] two distros21:58
javispedro(re compiz as science experiment)21:58
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qgilhi arjan this morning I wish I could get a glimpse of MeeGo Netbook UX and Ubuntu in 2 years time  ;)21:59
arjanmeego netbook UX implemented with qt quick will be interesting22:00
arjanfully touch enabled etc etc22:00
Stskeepsthere's plans to try that out?22:00
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lbtStskeeps: where's the FAQ response to "can I dual boot MeeGo now I have 1.3" ?22:03
CosmoHilllbt: http://cross-lfs.org/~cosmo/meego/faq.txt22:03
CosmoHillthat one?22:03
Stskeepslbt: "MeeGo 1.3 is out?"22:03
Stskeeps;)22:03
lbt:P22:04
qgilafter using MeeGo Netbook for work in a twentysomething monitor I really wonder what is the big deal between a Handet UX augmented, a tablet UX and a netbook/laptop ux - honestly22:04
RST38h"Where can I download MeeGO 1.3 warez???"22:04
CosmoHillRST38h: pirate bay?22:04
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RST38hCosmo: Yeaaah22:06
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toresbeHm. So I followed the online instructions refering to meego and multiboot, but it just powers off in the multiboot menu when I select it.. Any hints for me..?22:09
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Stskeepsthose instructions explictly says 'under construction', don't they/22:09
Stskeeps?22:09
toresbethey do22:10
Stskeepswell, there's your cause22:10
Stskeeps:P22:10
toresbethat's about a useful as a bucket of sand in the desert22:10
Stskeepsi know, that's why i'm working on the actual solution :)22:10
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toresbeDo you know anything about what causes it? Non-existant kernel file? I'm not sure where it finds it.22:12
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toresbeIt looks a bit as if the loader assumes the FS is ext3, but that does not seem to be the case.22:14
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toresbeAnd that is because it is indeed not the case; it seems to use something called "btrfs", which makes me wonder how the heck I'm going to get it booted.22:30
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Stskeepstoresbe: basically those instructions are old and we're not using kexec anymore.22:42
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toresbeStskeeps: OK, I see - what should I be researching instead?22:43
Stskeepstoresbe: track our work in #meego-arm - we're basically going to have a u-boot based solution22:44
toresbe_will_ have? So at the moment it's not possible to boot the meego kernel without a USB cable? :\22:44
Stskeepsit is possible, but you won't get very far22:45
Stskeepswe've had successful boots with u-boot.22:45
toresbeWell, the kernel booting is always a good sign :)22:45
Stskeepsnot until display driver starts acting up22:46
Stskeeps:P22:46
javispedroStskeeps: btw, do you have any stuff documenting the kexec issues that were found? I'd want to use it not necessarily for Meego.22:46
toresbeIt is quite literally a start. Thanks for that pointer. I'll rtfm up on this uboot thingie.22:46
Stskeepsjavispedro: display driver doesn't like re-entry22:46
toresbeIt's all just a little bit of init code repeating *sings*22:47
Stskeepsjavispedro: what do you intend to use?22:47
javispedroStskeeps: it's a Linux driver initialization thing?22:47
Stskeepsjavispedro: basically22:47
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javispedroStskeeps: homebrew stuff, not necessarily Linux even22:47
Stskeepsjavispedro: use u-boot then22:47
toresbeOh goodie! I just got display corruption after a cold boot!22:47
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toresbepurdy purdy triangles.22:47
Stskeepsit can technically even boot symbian ;p22:47
javispedroStskeeps: I prefer to check the environment before booting22:48
Stskeepshm?22:48
Stskeeps:P22:48
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javispedroI mean, I'm going to research mostly -- so I might want to run stuff before kexec()ing22:49
Stskeepsah, ok22:49
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Stskeepsu-boot has boot scripts but i guess they're not that interesting22:49
toresbeStskeeps: so I run the vmlinuz image through mkimage, and then boot that as if it was a vmlinuz image?22:50
Stskeepshttp://al.robotfuzz.com/~al/maemo/u-boot/22:51
toresbeStskeeps: so the file resulting from this procedure can be fed to multiboot?22:53
Stskeepsso, basically, the u-boot.bin that is there, gets combined with the maemo zimage and you flash it to your kernel area22:54
Stskeepsat bootup, u-boot looks for kernel named uImage on microsd partition 3 (vfat partition)22:54
Stskeepsif it doesn't find it, or a bootscript on partition 1 (vfat), it boots maemo kernel22:54
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toresbeCool! But this still involves patching the maemo kernel, that is to say - I still need a USB cable? Or can I feed uImage to multiboot as a vmlinuz image?22:56
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toresbeRiiight. I think I understand. The clever bit you're doing is making u-boot a third-stage-but-regressing-to-first-stage bootloader?22:58
toresbeSo I turn the meego kernel into a uImage, I prepend the u-boot.bin to it, and then load it in multiboot.23:00
Stskeepsit doesn't involve patching maemo kernel :)23:01
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Stskeepstoresbe: NOLO loads u-boot from kernel area - u-boot has a built-in zimage that it defaults to23:01
Stskeepsbut let's talk in #meego-arm23:01
toresbeOK, thanks :)23:02
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miherohttp://www.networkworld.com/community/node/67880 <<for the earlier ubuntu discussion23:10
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oshinif i want to port a lib to meego, should I use Handset image from http://wiki.meego.com/Getting_started_with_the_MeeGo_SDK_for_Linux ?23:11
oshini am on ubuntu.23:11
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GAN900Is there a flights page on the wiki yet?23:29
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