IRC log of #meego for Monday, 2010-10-18

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BumblebeeHello. Anyone listening?00:31
sofarhi00:32
pupnikhi00:32
BumblebeeHi. I cannot find any download link on http://meego.com/downloads/releases/updates/meego-v1.0.4-netbook-update00:32
sofarwhat are you looking for?00:32
sofaran image of the stable 1.0 release? that will automatically update00:33
CosmoHillyou download meego 1.0.0 and update it using zypper00:33
sofarthere are no images for each of the update releases00:33
rittkI'd suggest you the latest 1.1.80.2 snapshot00:34
rittkhttp://mirrors3.kernel.org/meego/builds/trunk/1.1.80.2.20101015.1/netbook/images/meego-netbook-ia32/meego-netbook-ia32-1.1.80.2.20101015.1.img00:34
sofaror just wait unti 1.1 is released00:35
CosmoHillsofar: what's that, about a week?00:35
sofar10 days00:35
BumblebeeIt might be a good idea to explain that on the site since there is no reason to assume people knowing this without it being explained to them.00:35
CosmoHillso a week on wednesday00:35
sofarBumblebee: it's like fedora - there's no fedora 13.1 images00:35
* CosmoHill adds it to the mental FAQ00:36
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sofarinfobot: updateimages is there are no images for updates, just download the latest stable release - it will update itself to the latest updates automatically after installation.00:37
infobotsofar: okay00:37
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BumblebeeAnother question. Why is the version supposedly without Google Chrome called meego-netbook-chromium-ia32-1.0-20100524.1.img? "Chromium" suggests the presence of Chrome.00:40
pupnikafaik chromium is the 'FOSS' version00:41
sofarwrong name, programmer error00:41
pupnikoh00:41
pupniknm00:41
CosmoHillBumblebee: chromium is the open source version of chrome, which pupnik just said00:43
miheronot much difference for user between those two00:43
miherobeen testing the chromium now on new ubuntu00:44
BumblebeeI prefer a browser that doesn't report all my activities back to Google. Why not include Iron or Firefox?00:45
CosmoHillI thought firefox was included00:45
sofarsupporting browsers is a huge task00:45
sofarthere's easily 2-3 people working full time on chrome/chromium support in MeeGo00:46
miherostarts to be the most complicated single application in devices00:46
sofarmutliple browsers would be too expensive to support00:46
CosmoHillmultiple browsers would be something meego would support once it's more mature?00:46
sofarjust look at how many security advisories are filed against firefox/et c00:46
pupnikoh disabling various googlespy things shouldn't be too much work - there are patches floating around00:46
sofarCosmoHill: from the community OBS, sure00:46
pupnikand there's 'inconito mode' which could be set to default00:47
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CosmoHillspeaking of the community OBS, "cobs" and "pub" are joint first in the sub-domain poll00:47
BumblebeeIs it more difficuilt to install Firefox in MeeGo than it would be to install it in any other installed Linux distro system?00:48
sofarno00:48
thiago_homewell, yes. If there are no pre-built packages, it's harder.00:48
sofarmozilla provides prebuilt binaries00:48
sofaryou can just install those00:49
thiago_homethat's harder than distribution packages00:49
thiago_homeyou asked if it were more difficult. I'm answering it is.00:49
thiago_homethe easiest method is via distro packages.00:49
sofarwe've already established that part00:49
sofarno need to reiterate it00:50
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CosmoHillsweet, I got a text when my phone was connected to the Ovi suite and it popped up on my computer :)00:53
BumblebeeI'm experimenting with Linux on my HP mini 210. I tried Puppeee Linux which is only a third in (download) size but it doesn't recognise my wireless network hardware. Based on what I read I seem to be able to expect MeeGo to work on this netbook. It was nice that I didn't need to erase the SD-card I tried it on to make a bootable medium. I understand that this isn't possible with MeeGo. Or is there?00:55
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BumblebeeIs ther another metod to get the necessary files on the SD card without erasing the SD card?00:57
sofarare you intending to install MeeGo using an SD card?00:57
sofaror are you installing MeeGo onto an SD card?00:57
BumblebeeFor testing purposes yes.00:57
BumblebeeTo boot from it.00:57
sofarif you have enough space on the card, it's possible to have multiple OS's on it00:58
sofarotherwise, no00:58
sofaryou probably also need to repartition, and modify the MeeGo image to work that way00:58
sofarso, it's technically possible, but not recommended00:58
nialaaworks on my usbstick but nowith my sdhc card00:58
BumblebeeYes but according to the instructions writing the IMG file to flash medium erases the medium.00:58
CosmoHillit shoudln't be to hard to get puppy linux working, if meego works then puppy should too00:58
BumblebeeThis wasn't necessary with Puppee.00:59
sofarinstalling from SD card has issues not related to MeeGo - the BIOS needs to support booting from SD card and lots of BIOS'es don't do that00:59
sofarBumblebee: yes, and that is the recommended method00:59
sofarget another SD card?00:59
CosmoHillif booting from the internal SD reader doesn't work you might want to try a USB adatper00:59
BumblebeePuppeee booted fine from the SD card ( http://puppeee.com/web/ )01:00
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sofarBumblebee: it's totally possible to have multiple live images on one medium01:02
sofarBumblebee: but in order to get that working, you'd need to manipulate the second image you install on that medium in a way which is not trivial01:03
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sofarit has nothing to do with MeeGo at all... any second live image on a SD card will have this problem01:04
BumblebeeDoesn't the image writer suggested ( https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer ) overwrite, meaning erase, the flash medium when writing the IMG file?01:04
sofaryes, because that's the RECOMMENDED method (iow, easiest)01:05
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sofarthere is not a distro in the world which will show you how to install a second live OS on to a USB stick/SD card01:05
BumblebeeOk but is there an alternative that doesn't erase everything. Just copies the files to the SD?01:05
sofarsure there is, if there is enough unpartitioned space around, and disk space free01:06
sofarand it's not documented01:06
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sofarand nobody will help you with it, lol01:06
BumblebeeI don't want it to coexist with Puppeee on the same SD. I just want other non OS related files there to remain on the SD.01:06
sofarcopy them off, try meego, copy them back01:06
BumblebeeYeah. I got that ;)01:07
sofarhehe sorry, you asked if it was possible, not if it was easy/feasible :)01:07
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BumblebeeThere isn't just a zip file which I can unpack and then run some .BAT file to make it bootable or something like Unetbootin-Windows-494.exe01:08
sofarno01:09
BumblebeePuppeee does that ( a batch file) and it is very convenient IMHO.01:10
CosmoHillBumblebee: may I suggest getting a second SD card or backing up the contents first?01:10
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BumblebeeDo archive apps like WinRar or 7Zip suppirt this IMG format?01:11
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BumblebeeI am aware of that option CosmoHill. Thanks.01:12
CosmoHill:)01:12
sofarwe can't answer that. please check the winrar etc projects for that information :)01:12
BumblebeeOK01:12
CosmoHilllcuk: for 28 characters it takes 1:40...so far. It's not finished yet01:13
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BumblebeeWill this upcoming version 1.1 come as a new installable version or also as an update that will need to be applied to v1.0?01:14
sofar1.0 will remain 1.001:14
sofarthere is no support for updating a 1.0 installation to a 1.1 installation01:14
sofar- yet01:15
BumblebeeSo it will be a new complete version?01:15
CosmoHill1.0 was the first core release, 1.1 was the first release with a GUI / UX01:15
sofartechnically, yes, it's a new complete version01:15
BumblebeeOK01:15
* nialaa not easy to understand libmeegotouch01:19
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CosmoHillhttp://cross-lfs.org/~cosmo/meego/faq.txt01:20
nialaaCosmoHill:  :) lol01:21
BumblebeeWould there be any reason, stability-wise, for me to not use version 1.1.80.2 but stick to v1.0?01:21
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CosmoHill(don't laugh, it's a minute old)01:21
CosmoHillyes01:22
CosmoHillthere is a bug in 1.1.80, it's recommended you stick with Meego 1.1 or use 1.1.9001:22
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BumblebeeI assumed 1.1.80.2 to be the latest. It was linked to earlier by rittk. Where can I find v1.1 or 1.1.90? The site only mentions updates up to 1.0.401:25
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nialaaBumblebee: http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/01:27
rittkdon't mind, its full of bugs anyways01:27
CosmoHillBumblebee: sorry, i might have been thinking of 1.0.8001:28
rittkI use 1.1.80.1 and it is exactly as bad as `stable` 1.001:28
CosmoHillanything I should add to the FAQ?01:29
CosmoHillthis is a draft, I'll put it on the wiki later01:29
BumblebeeI don't see a 1.1.90 Was that perhaps a typo and did you mean 1.0.90?01:29
* rittk flashes 1.1.80.2.20101015.1 on the device01:29
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nialaaCosmoHill: maybe a link to how to make your own meego-live with kickstart01:30
CosmoHilldo you have the link?01:31
nialaahttp://wiki.meego.com/Image_Creation_For_Beginners01:31
CosmoHilladded01:32
pupnikty nialaa01:33
CosmoHillI was tempted to make a list of questions where the answer is just "no"01:33
nialaaCosmoHill:  ahh ok01:34
CosmoHillmid way put "Yes"  "really?" "no"01:35
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nialaaCosmoHill: can meego do coffee ?01:36
nialaapupnik: ??01:36
pupnikheya01:36
pupniki didn't know that link01:36
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nialaapupnik: more complete http://wiki.meego.com/Image_Creation01:37
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CosmoHillnialaa: I added that too01:39
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rittkhehe, qt-driven cofee machine was broken all the time at the devdays :)01:40
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nialaakickstart is a nice way to have meego-live with good language01:40
rittkwifi still doesn't works correctly in the 1.1.80.2 (01:41
rittkbut the touchscreen does01:41
CosmoHillwe should have a list of devices on the wiki with tick boxes01:41
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rittkmediaplayer still works after being closed while playing movie01:43
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CosmoHillhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions#Comparison_chart01:43
CosmoHilla list sort of like that01:44
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CosmoHilldevices along the side, things like wifi along the top01:44
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BumblebeeA list of supported hardware (audio/video/network chips etc.) would be useful too I think.01:45
nialaaCosmoHill: yes with aava, notebook, arm, etc it canbe difficult to now01:45
CosmoHillI was thinking more dell mini 9, asus eeepc, samsung n1001:45
BumblebeeNew models appear very rapidly. Hardware (chips) used in them changes much slower.01:46
nialaahttp://wiki.meego.com/Devices01:47
CosmoHillseems good01:48
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BumblebeeMy HP is a mini-210-1070ED which isn't on the list. But I kind of expect it will work.01:48
nialaaBumblebee: yes notebook are like pentium100 from last century01:49
CosmoHillBumblebee: find out and if it does add it :)01:50
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* CosmoHill does weird things with meego01:50
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BumblebeeIs Broadcom WiFi supported in v1.1.x ? I understand it isn't in 1.0.x. from that devices list in the Wiki.01:54
nialaaI have add s101 in devices list01:54
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rittkdoesn't works correctly for me01:56
nialaabroadcum you will have some problems http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=23801:56
* CosmoHill chokes on his drink01:56
nialaabroadcom no broadcum .... woops01:57
pupnikfreud waves from the grave01:58
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CosmoHilladded that to the FAQ01:58
rittk_meegopidgin works here01:59
nialaaCosmoHill: what? freud in the faq ?01:59
CosmoHilllol no01:59
CosmoHillthe broadcom thing01:59
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nialaaI think we need a clear link to the forum on the first page of meego.com02:00
rittk_meegoI did some simple bash sript that configures wifi via iwconfig + ifconfig + route02:00
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nialaaforum can be difficult to find for no english people02:00
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rittk_meegorrrh02:01
rittk_meegothe sizegrip should be much bigger here02:01
nialaasizegrip ?02:02
rittk_meegothat thing at the bottom-right corner of window02:02
nialaaok for resizing the windows..02:03
rittk_meegothat assists in resizing the window with dragging )02:03
* nialaa will sleep less stupid02:04
BumblebeeBTW is there something comparable to Prey ( http://preyproject.com/ ) for Linux?02:04
pupnikyes02:06
johnxssh + some gps app that runs on the command line02:06
pupnikthreads over on the t.m.o forums02:06
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johnxthough also, prey seems to say on the *front page* that it's available for linux ...02:07
CosmoHillah02:07
BumblebeeIndeed. They hide it a biot though. Just saw the lillr penguin icon.02:08
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johnxI saw a testimonial scroll by that mentioned it :)02:08
nialaa1after 5-6 hours meego live bug :)02:09
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BumblebeeThey say for Mac, PC's and Phone in the page title. Odd they are not more forthcoming about Linux.02:10
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nialaaBumblebee: remember me what do you search ?02:12
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BumblebeeMy questions are mostly answered nialaa.02:15
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nialaassh -X 192.168.1.1002:30
nialaaarf02:30
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CosmoHillError: Unable to connect to 192.168.1.1002:32
nialaalol02:32
nialaaI must watch more my screen, or nextime I will type password02:33
CosmoHillI've done that once so far02:34
nialaaCosmoHill: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=238 that's a good begin for your faq02:34
CosmoHillI'll look into that tomorrow02:34
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nialaayes it's late for me, good night, bonne nuit02:34
CosmoHillbonne nuit nialaa02:35
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BumblebeeI'm signing off too. Thanks for the info guys/gals.02:37
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CosmoHillcyas03:30
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rittkhow to create a rpm from the tarball?04:00
rittkI already have a compiled package04:00
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wangjanis anybody there?07:42
wangjani have one question: whether there is some tool for unit test for meego?07:43
pupnikfor qt apps?07:45
timophfor test execution or for writing them?07:45
timophand for manual or automated testing?07:46
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wangjanhello, i want to use the unit test tool for test excution08:12
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wangjanif i write some case for unit test, do we use the qt-creator?08:15
timophwangjan: http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/QA-tools/Testrunner-lite08:15
timophthat's a generic test execution tool.08:16
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wangjanhi, Timoph, you mean that i also use the tool testrunner-lite for unit test?08:16
timophbut if you're writing test with QtTestLib that might be an over kill08:16
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henais there a way to set the screen brightness as a kernel parameter, or some other way to get to see the kernel buffer brighter during bootup on handset08:17
Stskeepshena: device?08:17
henan90008:17
timophyou can use it with any tests but if you only want to see that your code work your better of just using QtTest08:18
Stskeepshena: do what i do ..take out usb cable, device completely powered off, hold down power button and then put in usb cable08:18
Stskeepshena: that causes it to light up first08:18
henaah, ok, thanks :)08:18
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timophwangjan: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7/qtestlib-manual.html08:20
jianchucould anyone help to  teach me how to switch to other channls?08:20
sandst1jianchu: are you using irssi?08:21
RST38h /join #<channelname>08:21
dm8tbrah, he's using qwebirc08:22
RST38heeeek!08:23
dm8tbryes, the /join command should add tabs to the qwebirc window08:23
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dm8tbrgetting a proper irc client in the long run would be recommended (xchat, chatzilla, irssi, quassel, … )08:24
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jianchusorry, just lost connection as timeout...08:27
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dm8tbrdid you get our answers?08:28
jianchuno08:28
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dm8tbr05:21:30< RST38h>  /join #<channelname>08:29
dm8tbr05:22:49< dm8tbr> ah, he's using qwebirc08:29
dm8tbr05:23:28< RST38h> eeeek!08:29
dm8tbr05:23:34< dm8tbr> yes, the /join command should add tabs to the qwebirc window08:29
dm8tbr05:24:22< dm8tbr> getting a proper irc client in the long run would be recommended (xchat, chatzilla, irssi, quassel, … )08:29
jianchudm8stbr, can you show me how to join this channel via irssi?08:30
sandst1jianchu: /connect irc.freenode.net and after that /join #meego08:32
jianchuThanks08:33
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jianchulet me try08:33
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jianchuUnable to connect server irc.freenode.net port 6667            [Connection timed out]08:35
Stskeepsbehind a proxy?08:36
jianchui can connect via qwebirc08:36
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jianchu Stskeeps, Sorry, i do not know how to check if behind a proxy or not, can you show me how to check?08:42
Stskeepsjianchu: well, usually your network settings would reveal that, but i don't know :)08:43
TermanaN900Are you at work, school, a library or some other place that is providing public internet access?08:44
* Stskeeps yawns and gets breakfast08:44
Myrttiwell, his IP address might give some clues...08:45
jianchu:), problem is: i can login via qwebirc, but cannot with irssi, weird...08:45
Myrttijianchu: have you tried with any other client?08:45
Myrttiother than irssi08:45
jianchucan i set this proxy in irssi?08:46
Myrttiwhat you could also do is to join #freenode and ask help there as well08:46
dm8tbrhmm irssi might support proxy if the proxy supports CONNECT08:46
dm8tbrhttp://www.irssi.org/documentation/startup knows about http proxy setup :)08:48
jianchuget it, Thanks08:48
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jianchui will ask help from my own side as well:)08:48
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jianchudo we have Meego error channel here?09:21
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jianchui mean the channel for meego bug fix09:22
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TermanaN900jianchu, bug reports go on the bug tracker09:23
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jianchuso, we won't have special channel for bug fixing here, right?09:24
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TermanaN900jianchu, well, bug fixing goes on in the development channels I guess09:26
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TermanaN900But there is no central bug fixing channel09:27
jianchuO, thanks09:27
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jianchu_i do not know if it is out network problem or not, but guys here always disconnect auto...09:29
jianchu_Thanks guys for answer so many stupid question:)09:31
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Stskeepsmorn X-Fade09:49
X-FadeHi09:49
Stskeepsback from vacation?09:49
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X-FadeYes, back to the grind :)09:50
Stskeepshehe09:50
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djszapiis there a kde repository for Meego, like kdebase, kdelibs, plasma and so on ?10:41
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KaLifdjszapi: http://download.meego.com/live/10:44
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djszapihttp://www.notmart.org/index.php/Software/KDE_on_MeeGo -> so basically notmart's page seems to be quite fine.10:44
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djszapiKaLif: sorry, but I did not see KDE there.10:45
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lcukmorning X-Fade \o11:15
X-Fadehi lcuk11:17
lcukspotted you around, how have you been?11:17
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X-Fadelcuk: Good, great to be off the grid for a few weeks :)11:22
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lcukX-Fade, hope your batteries are recharged and ready for this period :)11:23
lcukI was at the Helsinki meetup last week and had a great chat with the folks there :)11:23
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lxsameerhi does any one tried to install meego on HTC devices?11:30
lcuktsk lxsameer do you not know how to internet search? http://www.slashgear.com/nexus-one-gets-meego-plus-dell-streak-htc-desire-video-26104295/11:33
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Myrttinexus one... *sigh*11:34
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* Myrtti looks at her lifeless device11:34
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lcukMyrtti, flash meego to it :P11:38
Stskeepsmorn andre__11:38
Myrttilcuk: I'd be happy if I could flash anything to it, but I'd really prefer having a working phone...11:39
Myrttiwell, it's a good thing I didn't give my trustworthy N95 away...11:39
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TermanaN900Myrtti, why is your nexus one lifeless? :p11:39
MyrttiTermanaN900: it started going into a reboot loop couple of weeks ago, and yesterday it just gave up11:40
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Venemohi12:12
Venemowhy is it that according to the job offerings, there are only senior developers at MeeGo? www.tinyurl.com/nnt34l12:12
Stskeepsuh? :P12:13
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Venemolook at the link12:13
Venemothey are only looking for senior developers and specialists12:13
Stskeepswell, it says (Senior)12:13
VenemoI'm wondering, why don't they need normal(=non-senior) developers too?12:14
lcukwell what skillsets would you offer? :)12:14
Stskeepsi'm not sure what the definition is, but entry level developers are easy to get and everyone would apply even if they didn't qualify, at all..12:15
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VenemoStskeeps: ah.12:15
Stskeepsyou'd want people who think themselves as senior developers..12:15
VenemoStskeeps: so everyone in the project is that highly qualified?12:17
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VenemoStskeeps: must be a good place to work then :)12:17
Stskeepsi don't know anything about the composition of nokia staff12:17
Stskeeps:P12:17
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RST38h<insert evil laughter here>12:17
Venemolol12:18
JaffaStskeeps: Mostly water, somewhat squishy12:18
TermanaJaffa, you forgot the hormones. Ravaging hormones that create wild mood swings12:19
TermanaThey're essential to any open source project12:20
Myrttiyeah, the "I need to get an Audi, now"12:20
Myrttior "beer, or I'll die"12:20
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lcukJaffa, watch out, some of the nokia staff have implants!12:20
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lcuknot the silicone kind either12:20
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* lcuk saw a wicked xray last week12:21
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Termanalcuk, was it of a raunchy sauce hot hot hot device internals?12:22
Termanasaucey*12:22
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Termana:p12:22
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lcukTermana, haha yes, nokia are developing wetware computers.12:23
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nialahello, have a nice day .  http://meteopetitefrance.fr/13:00
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Myrttiniala: in what way has that anything to do with MeeGo?13:03
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nialaMyrtti: I just say hello to the room13:10
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* CosmoHill pokes vgrade 14:35
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CosmoHillhey lcukn900, are you going to be in tomorrow's CO meeting?14:38
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lcukn900hey cosmo didnt see the schedule but most likely i am just out at lunch at the mo tho will see when i get back14:45
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CosmoHillit's 3pm tomorrow our time14:46
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thiagothe world is coming to an end...15:23
thiagohttp://www.nro.net/media/remaining-ipv4-address-below-5.html15:23
thiagodo we support IPv6 in MeeGo? :-)15:23
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CosmoHillthat URL is misleading, I thought there were less than FIVE ipv4 addresses15:24
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thiagoheh15:27
thiagooops :-)15:27
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thiagobut in reality we're just above 5% because whoever calculated the number didn't take into account the non-allocatable addresses15:27
thiagothe 10., 127., and 224.-255. networks15:27
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halvorsSome ideas about when Megoo Handset will be released to the public?15:28
Stskeepsit's already15:28
Stskeeps:P15:28
CosmoHillMeego 1.2 comes out in 9 days :)15:29
thiago1.1 you mean15:29
thiago1.2 is next March15:29
CosmoHillerm15:29
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halvors1.1 yes.15:29
CosmoHillnetbook :)15:29
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halvorsAlso when can i buy a phone in the store who run Megoo15:29
halvorsMeego sorry.15:30
halvors*15:30
Stskeepsn900 runs meego ;p15:30
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CosmoHillthiago: I don't see why they don't roll out IPv6 on domestic ISP15:32
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hefferDeutsche Telekom is planning to enable all their customers lines for dual stack ipv4/ipv6 mode by the end of 201115:34
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hefferthat's be 15,4 million ADSL users15:35
dm8tbrand they already run an 6to4 node on their net IIRC15:36
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heffermy ISP (NetCologne) recently donated a PoP to SixXS15:38
hefferwhich got overcrowded pretty fast15:38
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Surfawell, there may be surprisingly much activity for ipv6 in the near future15:39
Surfain multiple countries15:39
hefferi hope so15:39
hefferit's needed to get this going15:39
Sebastian92åñòü ðóññêèå:15:39
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CosmoHilloff to uni now, cyas15:41
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* heffer is in uni right now :D15:42
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matrixxlectures at uni are perfect for ircing15:47
hefferindeed15:47
hefferespecially if it's the first lecture on C15:47
matrixxsure15:48
hefferi think i'll pay attention as soon as the prof tells me something new :D15:48
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matrixxthat's the spirit :D15:50
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Myrttiho-hum. http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/5093508164/16:49
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GAN900Myrtti, that didn't last long.16:53
Aard==16:53
MyrttiGAN900: six months or so...16:53
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GAN900Back to N900?16:54
Myrttitheory is that the problem is with an application that unset the notification sound thus making the system unstable (?!)16:54
GAN900Flash it?16:54
MyrttiGAN900: I've never had one, I'm stuck with my 3 years old N9516:55
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MyrttiI've tried factory reset - no joy16:55
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RST38hWill Google fix it?16:56
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Myrttidoubt it, but I'm documenting it for the support request16:57
Myrttianyway...16:57
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RST38hIt might be nature's way of reminding you to buy an N900 :)17:01
RST38hOr simply shoddy HTC manufacturing.17:01
MyrttiRST38h: that would be done with the exact same lump of money that I used to buy the Nexus One17:01
Myrttiie. non-existant money17:02
MyrttiI've got some other plans for my money than using over 400€ on a phone17:02
RST38hWait, was that Nexus One given to you by the service provider?17:02
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Myrttino, by Chris DiBona of Google17:03
RST38hOk, I am afraid Chris will not take it back then :)17:03
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RST38hBut if it were from a service provider, they could replace it for free.17:04
Myrttiwhich may explain why I'm quite pissed off...17:04
CosmoHillhey Myrtti and RST38h17:04
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Myrttioh, well.17:04
Myrttiohai CosmoHill17:04
* CosmoHill is teaching his friend C++ :)17:05
CosmoHillI have pens and a white board, yay17:05
Myrttiwould 15 minutes on normal boot and 15 minutes on "factory reset" be enough of proof that it doesn't work?17:05
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CosmoHilldamn that's a long time17:05
CosmoHillyes something is wrong17:05
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RST38hHeya CosmoHill17:06
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RST38hMyrtti: It really depends on whether Google still invests in supporting these devices. If it does not, you are out of luck even if the poor Nexus is sizzling17:07
Myrttiwell, a reseller has it still in stock and is selling them for >600€, I asked what company they send their customers devices to and that company has an office in Tampere17:08
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Myrttiso if I pull nothing from HTC/Google, I'll just take a bus ride to that place and dish out money.17:08
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RST38h>600 euros? For an Android phone?17:11
* RST38h shrugs17:11
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MyrttiRST38h: http://www.verkkokauppa.com/popups/prodinfo.php?id=22057 <--17:12
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Myrttithere are better deals, but that's the biggest retailer of computer junk in Finland17:14
berndhsRST38h: 600 for *any* phone ?17:15
Myrttiberndhs: not unheard of in Finland17:15
MyrttiN900 was about 600 too when it launched17:15
Myrttiwhich is why I didn't and haven't bought it17:15
berndhsbut you guys don't even export any oil :)17:16
Myrttino, we export phones, you might have heard of the company... what was it again...17:16
Myrttioh yes, Nokia.17:16
CosmoHilllol17:18
CosmoHillmy friend just went "oh bollocks, it works"17:18
berndhssure, but OPEC just rips off the foreigners :)17:18
RST38hMyrrti: Sorry to come back to the topic but have you considered buying an N900 from Dell Small Business Store for $400 or so?17:18
dnearymmeeks, Ping?17:18
RST38hFroogle reports $369 as the smallest credible price17:19
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MyrttiRST38h: for the same reason why I bought N800 18 months ago instead of an N810 - it didn't have physical keyboard with nonexistant or misplaced scandinavian keys17:20
mmeeksdneary: Dave ! :-)17:21
mmeeksdneary: wassup ?17:21
Myrttiand $400 is still more money than I'd have to use to get the N1 fixed17:21
RST38hThis will be a US version and you can add any layout you want to it by editing a text file (still no labels on the keys of course)17:21
RST38hYea, if Google fixes it, it would be the best solution17:22
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dnearybspencer, Hi!17:24
bspencerdneary, hello!17:24
MyrttiRST38h: even if I pay 100€ for it, I'll still be saving money17:25
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Myrttis/for it/for fixing it/17:25
infobotMyrtti meant: RST38h: even if I pay 100€ for fixing it, I'll still be saving money17:25
henamy first irc'n with meego, sweet :)17:26
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henahow long does it take to learn all the package names again? :)17:28
henameaning apt vs. yum17:28
RST38hWhy learn package names?17:28
henahate the constant searching17:30
qgilmorning bspencer , do you think qemu will make it to 1.1? Looking at http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/SDKTestReports/Ubuntu10.04_32bit_ARMv7I_N900/1.0.99.0.20101005.117:30
henaand it's not like you have to learn them, you just happen to learn them by time17:30
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bspencerqgil, I'm not sure what the status is for n900 QEMU image17:32
bspencerx86 netbook and x86 handheld images have been working with QEMU since July17:32
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qgilah ok, this wasn't clear in that wiki page - thanks!17:32
bspencerand QEMU performance is pretty good currently, /if/ you can get it working at all17:32
bspencerQEMU doesn't work on many systems and there are issues that we haven't gotten to the bottom of wrt which systems work and which don't17:33
bspencergraphics cards, VT-enabling, etc.17:33
wangjani have one question, are CDK and QEMU devices like Aava?17:33
qgillast question: do you know if the rest of SDK sections at http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/SDKTestReports will be updated before the release? Or who would know?17:33
bspencerwangjan, QEMU is a virtual machine.  The image you run inside QEMU could be an Avaa or CDK image17:33
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wangjanso, you mean CDK is one headset?17:34
bspencerqgil, Praya (nokia) and Cathy (intel) are the QA leads for SDK.  They should know17:34
qgilthanks!17:34
bspencerCDK is one handset (kind of).  It is a development platform17:34
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wangjanthanks, bspencer, so in my thought, CDK is a real device i can get from the market?17:36
dnearybspencer, So - can I confirm the MeeGo on ARM training session for the Sunday night? I will have laptop & N900 with me17:36
dnearyOr should I bring my beagle board?17:36
dnearybspencer, That brings up a point - we should start communicating your expectations to attendees17:36
wangjanor just a develop platform where i can get? download?17:37
bspencerdneary, I will be there and ready to talk about what I know.   N900 devel isn't my expertise, but SDK setup is.17:37
sivangCDK?17:37
wangjanyes17:37
sivang"yet another acronym" ? :)17:37
bspencerdneary, so if it is a "BOF" environment, that works17:37
bspencersivang, YAA.    CDK = "C" Development Kit17:38
bspencerwhat is the "C" for?17:38
sivangare we using sofia in the telepathy stack btw?17:38
sivangbspencer: yesh, that was what I was wondering about.17:38
henabspencer: successor of "B" :)17:39
sivanghehe17:39
sivangtrue17:39
dnearybspencer, I'm thinking, one guy giving 2-5 minute overviews of the next step, followed by 10 mins while everyone does it17:39
bspencerwikipedia says "Content" (perhaps)17:39
dnearyRepeat17:39
sivangwhich lacked a type system or so they say17:39
bspencerdneary, sounds good to me.17:39
sivangbspencer: so this is about marketing?17:39
wangjanCDK is not a real device?17:39
dnearysivang, It was definitely the SIP stack in Maemo, so I imagine it's still there in oFono17:39
wangjanis it right?17:39
bspencerdneary, do we have a place to host it?  (a room)17:39
dnearybspencer, So a few slides would be useful17:40
sivangdneary: yay, since I learn it now to implement some SIP services17:40
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dnearyYes, we have a room that will fit up to 100 people - I've asked for it to be in a classroom format, for max. 50 people17:40
bspencerwangjan, CDK is a development kit, not a real device.  it looks like a naked handset -- something that wouldn't get through security at an airport..  You can't buy it at the store.  I don't know about the availability to get it17:40
* sivang searches for bspencer's session.17:40
Stskeepssivang: it's difficult to miss it, there's quite a few ..17:41
bspencerdneary, cool.17:41
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bspencersivang, I have a BOF session for SDK stuff each night.  Come hang out and get your questsions answered17:41
wangjanbspencer, thanks very much for you anwsers,17:41
bspenceror answer mine  :)17:41
dspeedThe "C" in CDK stands for "Customer".  CDKs are for early development on new silicon.17:41
sivangbspencer: yes, http://conference2010.meego.com/program/sessions/accepted?keys=spencer made it clear it is a recurring event :)17:42
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sivangdspeed: so like BSPs?17:42
sivang"Board Support Pacakges"17:42
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andre__assuming that some downstream (meego) changes exist, where is the meego git repository for evolution and evolution-data-server located?17:43
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sivangandre__: rumor has it there are no downstreams in meego :)17:44
dspeedsivang: The CDKs are used for many different things - driver development is one of them.17:44
Stskeepsandre__: if they exist, they're patches included in srpm17:44
Stskeepsagainst upstream tarball17:45
andre__sivang: I highly doubt that.17:45
andre__uhm. so are the diff files somewhere available on a server?17:45
Stskeepsandre__: sec17:46
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wangjanstill some questions: what tools will be used in the sanity test? testrunner?17:47
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wangjanwhat tools will be used in the hourly test/weekly testing/milestone testing?17:48
Stskeepsandre__: http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/1.0.99/daily/core/repos/source/evolution-data-server-2.30.2~20100629-1.5.src.rpm , rpm2cpio *.rpm | cpio -id  (make a new folder) , and patches, git snapshot data in changes and what patches are applied17:48
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andre__Stskeeps: :-D Thanks. A bit hackish, but should work17:49
wangjancan someone give some answers?17:49
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sivangbspencer: what about platform hacking, if for instance someone wants to work on the handset/arm branch on the downstream parts? (fix bugs only? or maybe new features that are not appropriate upstream as well?)17:51
bspencersivang, you can do a lot with a chroot wrt platform development, but the SDK currently focuses on app development.17:53
bspencerbut hacking libraries or other middleware is easy to do.  hacking the kernel or drivers is a little harder17:54
sivangbspencer: yes, I know, being at the Munich Dev Days, app development seems mostly straight forward now with Qt et al. We need more stuff about platform hacking. I actually emailed Stskeeps something, maybe I'll toss it to meeego-dev and start a discussion.17:55
sivangbspencer: and it also has fair amount of documentation by now as it seems.17:55
sivang(app dev)17:55
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sivangbspencer: this was not to say your sessions are not important! Many people have not attended Dev Days and are waiting for them :)17:56
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sivangbspencer: and yes, am interested in user-space, so middleware and peripheria18:03
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sgo11meego is Qt-based UI, but really! I can not find any Qt applications so far. is that possible to install kwrite, amarok, kontact? I can not find them with 'zypper se'. Do I need to add some other repo?18:20
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djszapiwhen will the meego build service be opened ?18:44
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henais there a quite howto somewhere on making yum packages for meego?19:19
henai'm mainly wonderin about repos and/or how are packages differentiated between handset/netbook/etc19:20
henapardon my lazyness19:20
Stskeepswiki.meego.com/Packaging/Tutorial19:20
henathanks19:21
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arfolldoes anyone know what's happened to the aava build images for meego? They seem to not have made new ones recently....19:27
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Stskeepsarfoll: i think they're possibly merged into another platform19:28
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arfollyou think the mft builds will work on the aava then?19:28
Stskeepsmtf is just 'meego touch framework', ie, handset ux19:28
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arfollah, those are the builds that work on the moorestown CDK, I'll see what the difference is in the .ks between those builds and the aava builds19:29
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Kaadlajkused to be only platformid=aava added to kboot.cmdline19:31
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RST38hheya qgil19:54
vyseeho19:54
qgilhi RST38h19:54
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vyshi19:57
thiagodid we have a TSG meeting last week?19:57
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Stskeepsyes19:58
thiagook19:58
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aukeStskeeps: any objections agains putting readahead size to ~128kb?20:00
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aukeStskeeps: I'll follow up in the bugreport20:00
* qgil just discovered http://www.slideshare.net/andreasjakl/quickstart-qt-for-windows-symbian-and-maemo-meego-441077620:00
Stskeepsthiago: http://trac.tspre.org/meetbot/meego-meeting/2010/meego-meeting.2010-10-13-18.56.html20:00
thiagoStskeeps: thanks20:00
* thiago realises he'll be travelling during the next one20:00
Stskeepsauke: no objections, we were planning on doing proper perf but 128 can't harm20:00
Stskeepsproper perf analysis, that is20:01
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thiagoand I don't even know what time the meeting will be in that timezone20:02
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song123Hi, which application is Qt based in current meego release? thanks.20:03
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qgilsong123: I believe Garage (application manager) is Qt based , but currently they default to MeeGo Touch (Handset) and GTK+ misc (Netbook). Not sure about IVI apps, I believe MeeGo Touch too20:06
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qgilsong123: why?20:06
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song123qgil: I heard meego was Qt UI based. but now, all I can find is gnome/gtk applications. I like to see kde apps.20:07
aukeStskeeps: it's a bit thick finger work anyway :)20:07
MyrttiQt does not KDE make20:07
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aukeStskeeps: we used to turn readahead off while sreadahead is actually running20:08
aukethat minimizes blocks read drastically at start20:08
aukethat code I'll merge back in 1.220:08
Stskeepsauke: :nod:20:08
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song123Myrtti: yeah, but I failed to find Qt app. all I can see is gtk based.20:08
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Stskeepsauke: well, this is just a workaround currently as fennec performance is important, if you can get a sreadahead change in that benefits everyone, that's even better20:09
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thiagosong123: are you talking about the netbook release?20:11
thiagosong123: almost all of the apps in the handset release are Qt-based.20:11
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Stskeepsauke: so you'll take over the work with readahead_kb? we'll do an acceptance test tomorrow to see if there's any bad sideeffects from '0'20:12
song123thiago: sorry, yeah, netbook release. sorry that I didn't mention it.20:12
henareferring to the contributing page, upstream in meegos case is consideres single projects, and not maemo or moblin?20:12
Stskeepshena: moblin and maemo are 'dead' to meego20:12
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Stskeepsso single projects, yeah20:12
thiagosong123: yes, most apps are written with Gtk+ and Clutter there20:12
thiagosong123: and like Myrtti said, introducing Qt-based apps won't make MeeGo any more KDE than it is GNOME now.20:13
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song123thiago: will meego add Qt application for netbook release in the future? any plans?20:13
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thiagosong123: new apps are being developed all in Qt20:14
thiagowhether there are needs for new apps in the netbook remains to be seen20:14
thiagomy guess is yes, there will be new apps and those will be Qt20:14
henalet's take take an example, if i wanna make a package for wvdial, is there a contrib repo or what kind of process would there be to get the package into the repos20:15
henaand if i'm not willing to maintain the package, it just dies if nobody else maintains it, or how does this work? :)20:16
song123thiago: OK. I am wondering if I can install KDE app in the netbook release. Is there a kde repo that I can add?20:16
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thiagosong123: you can install KDE apps. I have. But I compile my own KDE.20:16
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Stskeepshena: i think once the community OBS is up there'll start being a process for those kind of things20:16
thiagosong123: I don't think there are repos.20:16
thiagosong123: see what Stskeeps has just said20:17
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lcukCosmoHill, thanks, yes I will sit on the CO meeting tomorrow afternoon at 3pm, uk time ;)20:17
song123thiago: ok, thanks a lot for the help and reply.20:17
* thiago actually ran the full Plasma-Netbook on MeeGo20:17
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thiagoworked fine, but it draws a little more power than the MeeGo standard netbook UI and is a bit slower20:18
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henaStskeeps: ok, so for now it'll be my own hosting20:19
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lcukplus hearing the computer setting off sirens and wailing about a PLASMA COOLANT LEAK ON PORT NACELL was a bit disconcerting20:19
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henais there a page for personal repos already, or would this possibly be a good page to start?20:21
Stskeepshena: forum.meego.com has some 'community repo' thing20:21
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henaalrighty, i guess this will be enough of my lame questions for tonight :)20:23
aukeStskeeps: for 1.2 I'll take ownership20:24
aukeStskeeps: for 1.1 I doubt we can do much more at this time20:24
Stskeepsauke: k - so we'll probably run with the workaround - 0 or 128 better?20:24
Stskeepsit was really amazing how much a benefit it had20:24
CosmoHilllcuk: I plan to present the results of the community OBS sub domain20:25
CosmoHillthat should be a few sentences20:25
lcukawesome20:25
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henapfft, my meego lappie ran out of battery, how irritating20:34
CosmoHillwas it like my apple where you get two warnings before it goes to sleep20:35
aukeStskeeps: 128kb please, for now20:35
CosmoHillor like my friend's laptop where it goes "I die now" *powers off*20:35
henadid the flash/mmc install process change since 1.0 (or the wiki page) since i was getting no init/root errors with the latest snapshot20:35
Stskeepsauke: k20:36
henaCosmoHill: nope, it was like blee, and the p came from my head20:36
Stskeepsauke: i'll submit a change then20:36
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henathat was handset image 1.1.80 from 15th20:37
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aukeStskeeps: tyty20:37
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song123is that possible to check cpu temperature under meego netbook release?20:39
CosmoHillis there anyone in here who hasn't voted on the Community OBS sub-domain name and would like to?20:39
henawhat's OBS :D20:39
song123some flash websites always make my cpu 100% busy.20:39
Stskeepshena: 1.1.80 is hosed20:39
Stskeepshena: we're working on it20:40
CosmoHillhena: I knew right up until the moment you asked me that question20:40
henaah, can i help? :)20:40
CosmoHillOpenSUSE Build Service20:40
Stskeepshena: basically btrfs wasn't enabled in meego kernel :)20:40
Stskeeps(n900 one)20:40
henaoki20:40
CosmoHillsong123: I have a 15", 5 year old powerbook and most flash websites do that to my processor20:40
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song123CosmoHill: mine is new. hp mini.20:41
CosmoHillif people want to vote see this thread: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=167120:41
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henaobviously there's a catch to this, since just enabling btrfs would be too simple? :)20:41
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Stskeepshena: process is hard ;)20:41
henaah, ok :D20:42
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henalol @ auki.meego.com20:43
CosmoHilli like that one :(20:44
henawell, it's not really international, nor do i get the joke :)20:45
henapub is the traditional i guess20:45
CosmoHillthe english translation would be "build.on.meego.com"20:45
henabut it wouls still be build.auki.meego.com20:46
ieatlintauki isn't bad20:46
henawould20:46
CosmoHillyou've thinking in one language :p20:46
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ieatlintcobs.meego.com sounds unpleasant to me, and community.meego.com is way too long to type :P20:46
Stskeepscbuild?20:47
Stskeeps:P20:47
song123ok, i just turn off flash in chrome://plugins.20:47
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henadev sounds too test/experimental/"meego property"20:48
henai think pub or contrib20:48
ieatlinti'd prefer pub or auki20:48
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CosmoHillsomeone's broken the tie20:51
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CosmoHillthe sub domain might be selected tomorrow20:54
nialahi sub domain of what ?20:54
CosmoHillfor the community OBS20:55
henaok, so no point in voting for contrib :)20:55
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nialain a irc meeting? or only intel and nokia?20:55
Stskeepscommunity office meeting20:56
CosmoHillthere is a Community Office IRC meeting tomorrow at 14:00 UTC20:56
nialanoted20:56
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CosmoHillI saw the logs from the last one, only about six people in it20:57
nialait's often the case20:58
shadeslayerdoes meego have a webkit browser?20:59
shadeslayerif so, where is its source?20:59
nialaand never asian people at irc meeting20:59
sjokkisthere's chromium...20:59
sjokkisshadeslayer: http://code.google.com/chromium/20:59
CosmoHillah, the next Community Office meeting is NOT tomorrow, it's now the 2nd of November at 19:00 UTC20:59
shadeslayeroh20:59
shadeslayernot chromium :P20:59
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shadeslayerany other?21:00
sjokkiswhat? no21:00
nialachrome lol21:00
sjokkisof course not21:00
sjokkiswell, yes. chrome21:00
henai hate passwords...21:01
sjokkisthe only other major browsers that use webkit are konqueror and safari21:01
henaevery single time i try to log into some website i have to reset my password first21:01
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* shadeslayer throws rekonq in that list as well21:01
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sjokkisshadeslayer: i said major browsers21:02
CosmoHillhena: why not use the name of your computer21:02
shadeslayersjokkis: rekonq is becoming more mainstream now21:02
CosmoHilleg mine would be powerbook21:02
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sjokkisit's not a major browser21:02
sjokkisneither is konqueror, for that matter21:02
shadeslayeryes :)21:02
CosmoHillKonqueror requires KDE libs which MeeGo doesn't have21:02
shadeslayerbut more and more people are switching to rekonq21:03
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shadeslayeralso, Kubuntu now ships rekonq as default browser...21:03
sjokkisaaaaaaand i'm done with this discussion21:03
shadeslayerso that way its gaining more market, but that doesnt mean it doesnt have bugs :P21:03
nialabouh kde is a gas factory21:04
sjokkisnot even people using kde use the built in browser21:04
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CosmoHillthere are two or three people working full time on Chrome support in MeeGo21:04
shadeslayerok, but my question still remains, no other browser apart from chrome?21:05
nialafirefox21:05
aukefirefox is gone from trunk21:06
nialamoblin-web-browser21:06
shadeslayerwebkit preferably :)21:06
nialaah ok sorry21:06
aukechrome, fennec-qt21:06
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djszapiis there an rpm repository somewhere providing rpm packages for Meego just to check out what I should package for example if I liked to have kdelibs on meego in rpm ?21:07
henaah, back to meego21:07
nialahttp://repo.meego.com/21:07
henai hate the default theme on meego netbook, but this still so beats the arse of ubuntu netbook21:08
henaCosmoHill: because i refuse to use the same password twise21:09
henatwice21:09
henatwise...21:09
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CosmoHillget a finger print reader :)21:10
sjokkisDawnFoster: you around?21:10
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DawnFostersjokkis: yes21:12
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sjokkisDawnFoster: i'm having my hotel stay sponsored by the linux foundation. do i go about booking the roomm the same way as if i paid for it myself?21:15
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DawnFostersjokkis: you'll need to contact the LF - angela should have sent you an email?21:19
DawnFosterI have absolutely nothing to do with the process of getting hotels booked, but Angela can help you out21:20
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djszapiseems kdelibs is not packaged for meego :(21:21
aukeyes21:21
aukeobviously21:21
aukethat's what the community OBS will be fore21:21
aukefor*21:21
djszapinobody has not got the faintest idea when that will be opened.21:22
djszapiso KDE guys kinda..waiting.21:22
leinirWell, KDE guys and plenty of others...21:22
aukelbt is in charge, he should be able to give updates.21:22
leinirhighly problematic21:22
Stskeepsthere's even an easy guide to setting up your own obs if you're in a hurry..21:22
djszapiwhat do you mean ?21:23
djszapito get an account ?21:23
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nialaleinir: problematic for what? what do you need ?21:23
djszapior provide a package that one can apply ?21:23
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CosmoHilldjszapi: have you voted for the community OBS sub-domain?21:23
djszapiniala: problematic to do kde development on meego.21:23
Stskeepshttp://wiki.meego.com/User:Stskeeps/10_easy_steps_to_a_local_OBS <-21:23
nialaCosmoHill: a link to vote21:23
niala?21:23
djszapiCosmoHill: pardon ?21:23
CosmoHillhttp://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=167121:24
leinirniala: People perceive the community obs as something really important, and as it is missing, stuff is put on hold in a bunch of places21:24
* CosmoHill gives niala a cookie for helping with the FAQ tomorrowe21:24
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djszapiyeah, agreed with leinir, it is just an obstacle for the community unneccesarily21:25
nialadjszapi: well you are rightmeego is not a full distri linux,  for now and I believe they do not wan't do a linux distro like other21:25
Stskeepswell, the world doesn't need another full distro, but for the purposes it's intended for, meego's quite nice21:25
thiago_homemeego is specialised on a few objectives21:25
djszapiit is not new distro question.21:25
thiago_homeobjectives that other distros haven't focused on21:26
sjokkisDawnFoster: will do. thanks21:26
nialaI m agree with OBS I can't wait ... :)21:26
djszapiit would not hurt anybody to provide an opportunity for kde devels.21:26
nialaif kde does not fill my hard Disk 8G21:27
djszapiwhy would it fill ?21:27
djszapiare you serious ? :)21:27
djszapihehe21:27
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nialakde have a lot of dependancies21:27
leinirdjszapi: building kde takes a very considerable amount of space :)21:27
thiago_homeniala: most of which are already in meego21:27
thiago_homethe biggest of them is Qt :-)21:27
djszapiyepp21:27
djszapithiago_home: 2mins for you :P21:28
thiago_homeabout 721:28
leinirniala: as does any other project where the NIH principle has been taken seriously ;)21:28
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nialaso why not kde... but it's hard for 1G ram . maybe I must test kde. I haven't use it since 10 year lol21:29
thiago_home1 GB is plenty21:29
djszapiniala: I do not understand why you are against it if you have not even used that...21:29
leinirKDE runs fine on 51221:29
leinirdjszapi: FUD is fun ;)21:29
djszapi:D21:29
leinirdjszapi: why worry about facts? ;)21:29
henaefl ftw21:30
djszapiI do not worry :)21:30
henabut i guess i need to learn qt finally21:30
djszapiI am being happy, salalala :)21:30
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* thiago_home hasn't seen rasterman in a while21:31
thiago_homeis he still working for samsung?21:31
nialadjszapi: I have used it.  but in last century kde was not so cool , especially it was heavy .maybe now it is more adapted with new computer...21:31
Stskeepsthiago_home: yeah and seems to be building something on top of ubuntu it looks like21:31
nialabut notebook..... i doubt21:31
thiago_homeI wonder if he's worked on Bada21:32
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Stskeepsbada's architecture diagram is still full of win21:32
Stskeepshttp://www.linuxfordevices.com/images/stories/samsung_bada_arch.jpg21:32
leinir...21:33
leiniryeaaah... ;)21:33
* niala vote for a light WindowMaker-touch21:33
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thiago_homelooks like the meego archictecture, with less details21:34
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* lpotter_ imagines blackbox on a phone...21:34
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thiago_homehow about twm with xterm?21:35
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CosmoHillchrome works in twm :)21:36
thiago_homeoh, wait, wasn't exactly that what we had in early MeeGo Handset? :-)21:36
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lpotter_chrome?! links!21:36
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nialatelnet!21:37
lpotter_telnet is the email client21:38
lpotter_screen is a must21:38
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ieatlinttelnet is a great email client21:39
thiago_homeand IRC client too21:40
henaraster works for samsung now? didn't even know that :)21:40
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henawas still working for va since last time21:41
ieatlintyeah, apparently he's in seoul now even21:41
thiago_homeI saw him last in 200921:42
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ieatlinthe's in this channel often enough21:42
thiago_homereally? /me doesn't remember him talking21:42
ieatlintwas last in here this morning, quit at 13:11:08 UTC21:45
ieatlint... morning for me :P21:45
lpotter_he's stalking us21:45
CosmoHilllpotter_: well that is the whole point of facebook21:46
lpotter_no, the whole point of facebook is to sell your personal data to advertisers21:47
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ieatlintactually, facebook doesn't sell your personal data21:47
ieatlintthey do all their advertising in-house21:47
ieatlintthere's lot to criticise facebook for, but that's one thing they haven't really done21:48
lpotter_your right, its worse, they enable 3rd parties to sell your personal data...21:48
ieatlintthere you go21:49
henait's not worse21:49
ieatlintbut they don't charge for that21:49
henaif you put something in the web, it's there21:49
henayour own choice21:49
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ieatlinthena: your argument ends when you put your data on facebook with a privacy policy and settings that keep it private, and then one day facebook decides to change their policies and release it to everyone21:49
henaonce something hits the web, you cannot expect any control over it after21:50
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henabut you can't trust that21:50
ieatlintand suddenly anyone can see that you're part of a group called "gay people still in the closet" or "rough sex lovers", including your friends, parents, employer, etc21:50
henasuch is the nature of the web21:50
ieatlint... which happened in may21:50
ieatlintthey also changed the policy on photo sharing21:50
henaonce you put something in, it never comes out21:51
ieatlintand they don't make it clear that "friends" of yours can sign up to use a facebook app, and reveal your data, even though you never agreed to do anything with that app21:51
henayeah, everyone should understand by default, that anything that is written to web is "public", it's too bad that it's not so, but that is the name of the game21:52
ieatlintthey also fail to make the privacy settings and risks clear, with internal figures saying only half their user base has ever even looked at the privacy settings page21:52
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henait's not just facebook, i would count storing gmail conversations as the same21:53
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ieatlintheh, i think you live in an unrealistic world if you consider that acceptable21:53
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henai don't consider it acceptable, i consider a state21:54
henait's too bad it is so, but you can't trust the web21:54
ieatlinta state that facebook set themselves for, and criticisms are wholly valid21:54
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henawell, it doesn't matter if it's facebook or myspace or twitter or whatever21:56
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ieatlintthe issue is only partly that of people not realising all they share is by default public.. it's that fact that facebook has a history of changing their policy without warning, and revealing data that yesterday was private to anyone21:57
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henaany user that writes something to the web needs to understand that it's under the mercy of the people who have any access to it21:57
ieatlintand then after some outcry, allowing people to opt-in for some extremely confusing privacy settings21:58
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ieatlintwhich have no guarantees they won't simply disappear again21:58
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henasure, facebook is cryptic in their policies and people are easily fooled by it21:58
ieatlinthena: that's an extremely libertarian attitude21:58
henawell, it is how it is21:58
henaif you trust someone over the web, your naive :)21:59
jarkkomthese days they're apparently taking it quite seriously, especially after politicians got involved in whole privacy row21:59
henasomeone you don't know21:59
ieatlintheh, it is how it is because a company is abusing their users21:59
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ieatlintjarkkom: hardly21:59
henaand you don't think google isn't abusing their users?21:59
henathey're just a bit more suddle22:00
ieatlinthena: i can only name one google privacy violation, and google acted quickly to solve it22:00
ieatlintand that was their fuckup when buzz was introduced22:00
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jarkkomgoogle is in quite a bit of trouble as well in some EU countries22:00
henait's not that they violate some privacy set, but they just use all the data of you on their own agendas22:01
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ieatlintyeah, but them using my data is no secret, nothing new, and doesn't expose me to the public22:01
henawell, that's in the hands of any google employee that has access to it22:02
ieatlintoh, and disclaimer: i know people who work at facebook and google, and as such may have biases based on my friend's own views22:02
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ieatlintnah, google's internal security doesn't simply let any employee go read your email22:02
ieatlintyes, there was a recent case with an employee caught reading gtalk conversations, and as i understand it, he's currently being prosecuted22:03
henaof course not, but some have the access, sure they have the ethics not to reveal it to the public, but they still could, facebook has standard users in the same position22:03
henabut i wouldn't store my bank codes in google cloud or whatever22:04
ieatlintwell, i think google's policy in china, and their efforts to show you exactly who has been accessing your gmail account -- including giving you alerts when suspicious activity is seen, speaks far more to their commitment for a user's privacy than any other major company22:05
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djszapiwhere can I find the touchscreen driver for Meego ?22:21
lcukieatlint, hena is right and once its online that its out of your hands.22:21
djszapitsc2005 I guess.22:22
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djszapihttp://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-dev/2010-April/001735.html k kool !22:22
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ieatlintlcuk: not arguing the risk of putting something online, but that doesn't absolve a company of responsibility22:24
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thiago_homedjszapi: driver for what touchscreen?22:27
djszapin90022:27
djszapiI would like to get the ioctl entry since they normal inputs are under /dev/input/by-path/ on desktop, not in case this ts.22:27
* thiago_home sees /dev/input/ts22:28
Stskeepsif there's a udev rule for it22:29
djszapithiago_home: I have got just maemo availability now, but it should be hardware 'feature', not software22:29
djszapibut the driver checking is the sure point :)22:30
djszapiwhat it creates ..22:30
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djszapireturn spi_register_driver(&tsc2005_driver);22:32
djszapimmh...22:32
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djszapiis there any kernel level related meego IRC channel ?22:48
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CosmoHilli think there is #meego-dev but I'm not to sure22:49
djszapithere is, but that is not kernel specific I gues.22:49
djszapi* guess, maybe it is worth to give it a try.22:49
CosmoHillit's development22:49
djszapiy22:49
CosmoHillI mean it's the development channel, so it's more specific than this general channel22:50
djszapisure :)22:50
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Rydekull\o/ ive bought a wetab running meego23:06
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CosmoHilla what?23:07
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Rydekullhttp://wetab.mobi23:08
CosmoHillcool23:09
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Rydekullyeah. but, to be honest. i expected to be a bit disapointed, and i am. sooo... now im starting to dig inhow i can get less disappointed ;-P23:11
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djszapithiago_home: you were right with /dev/input/ts23:17
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djszapithiago_home: http://meego.gitorious.org/meegotouch/meegotouch-feedbackreactionmaps/blobs/master/src/mfsource/mfkernelthread.cpp#line3523:19
djszapimeego touch framework does the same.23:19
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stephgauke: yt?23:40
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citnhi there23:43
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CosmoHillhello23:44
citnI'm having trouble logging in on build.meego.com.23:44
citnI did some reading on wiki.meego.com about the obs, but I don't know what account to use on that site.23:45
citnI tried to log in with my regular www.meego.com account but it doesn't work. Any ideas? :D23:45
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aukestephg: here23:45
aukestephg: you probably just saw my bugreply23:46
stephgthanks for the quick going-over of my not very useful numbers23:46
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stephgyesh23:46
stephgalso want to apologise as I just spammed another of your bugs with an attachment due to firefox crash23:46
aukehaha that's fine23:47
aukebut your numbers are not super useful :)23:47
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stephgI know, but I figured something (anything) was a start23:47
aukeas I posted in the bugreport, the only 2 numbers that mattered were small file size reads :)23:48
aukeit's a start23:48
stephgthe iozone defaults I guess are intended at people benchmarking arrays; and I did only run the defaults23:48
stephgis interesting though that the subjective performance of fennec with readahead = 0 was still good, I guess that merely means there's more going on elsewhere that is upsetting the performance23:49
stephg(of fennec I mean(23:49
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aukeit's a balance23:51
aukereadahead will help fennec's startup - it will reduce the time it spends waiting for blocks from disc23:51
aukebut too much and the scheduler is just too busy23:52
aukeplus we waste memory23:52
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citnApparently the obs is closed ( http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=615 ). Sorry for your time/23:53
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stephgyeah23:54
citnI put a vote on it ;)23:56
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