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| niala_happy | maybe same issue I don't know .. I tired I tired a lot of emotions today | 00:00 |
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| popping-kam | niala_happy: xubuntu a l'air de passer :d sur le eeepc | 00:02 |
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| djszapi | thiago_home ping | 00:15 |
| djszapi | can you have a look at my code at some point whether you can find trivial bad coding thingies like __k__ last time ? | 00:16 |
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| thiago_home | djszapi: I believe you're asking in the wrong channel | 00:17 |
| djszapi | I am sorry then :) | 00:17 |
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| thiago_home | and I don't want to do this now | 00:17 |
| djszapi | not that urgent. | 00:17 |
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| thiago_home | qgil: located the organiser for the code sprint | 00:24 |
| thiago_home | qgil: I'll have her email you | 00:24 |
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| smoku | what replaced HAL in meego? | 00:29 |
| thiago_home | devkit + udisks | 00:31 |
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| qgil | thiago_home: thanks! | 00:33 |
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| smoku | thiago_home, is there something like 'lshal' ? | 00:36 |
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| thiago_home | smoku: no idea, sorry | 00:39 |
| thiago_home | the meego netbook is offline in the office | 00:39 |
| smoku | I'm trying to find out why my X does not see any input devices :/ | 00:40 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: does it have a /dev/input/eventX? | 00:40 |
| smoku | surely | 00:40 |
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| smoku | 0-4 | 00:41 |
| Stskeeps | grab nokia-n900-configs and look at our 90-input-n900 or something file.. | 00:41 |
| smoku | evtest reports that they give correct events | 00:41 |
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| smoku | Stskeeps, where does MatchProduct content come from? | 00:47 |
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| smoku | /sys/class/input/eventX/device/name ? | 00:48 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 00:48 |
| Stskeeps | i think | 00:48 |
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| smoku | Stskeeps, it helped. :) thanks | 00:54 |
| Stskeeps | np | 00:54 |
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| rittk | are meego nighly builds available? | 05:24 |
| rittk | btw, gnight #meego | 05:24 |
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| niala-usb-live | hello have a nice day | 12:10 |
| thiago_home | hello | 12:10 |
| Chani | damn, I only just heard about the meego early-bird thing... | 12:11 |
| thiago_home | you've already got your tickets? | 12:11 |
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| Chani | thiago_home: just booking them this moment actually, but I've already sent my travel estimate.. | 12:18 |
| Chani | ooh! good news, the 13th is actually a cheaper day to fly :) | 12:18 |
| * thiago_home will probably arrive on the 13th | 12:18 | |
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| Chani | cool :) | 12:24 |
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| * Chani even managed to find a ryanair flight that's not at 6am ;) | 12:24 | |
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| thiago_home | I'll schedule my flights this week | 12:37 |
| thiago_home | fregl: have you scheduled yours? | 12:37 |
| Chani | damn, the hostel is nearly full on the 13th | 12:38 |
| * Chani has flighst now, though | 12:39 | |
| Chani | ohh my god the rooms left are... expensive :/ | 12:39 |
| Chani | still cheaper than flying on the 14th, but... ick | 12:39 |
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| Chani | hrm. | 12:59 |
| Chani | I wanted to add myself to that early-bird page, but when I try to log into the wiki, I get sent to http://meego.com/user?destination=wiki_home - where it appears I'm already logged in. but when I return to the wiki I'm not logged in *there*... | 12:59 |
| * Chani is stuck in login limbo... :/ | 13:03 | |
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| thiago_home | kded4 crashed? | 13:03 |
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| Chani | thiago_home: huh? | 13:06 |
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| Chani | oy | 13:07 |
| Chani | I logged out, then logged in via the wiki link, and now it believes me. | 13:07 |
| Chani | ...and now I actually read the page properly and see that I',m not supposed to register there. ha | 13:08 |
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| lcuk | CosmoHill, ping | 15:28 |
| CosmoHill | pong | 15:29 |
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| lcuk | heya dude \o | 15:30 |
| CosmoHill | hey | 15:31 |
| lcuk | the clustering software you have been using, does it have to be hosted on Windows machines, or is it cross platform | 15:31 |
| lcuk | or was the windows part only what you installed into the cluster ontop? | 15:31 |
| CosmoHill | erm | 15:31 |
| CosmoHill | the software on windows is windows HPC | 15:32 |
| CosmoHill | I think both linux and windows support MPI but I don't know if they are homo or hetro genius | 15:32 |
| lcuk | isnt hetro genius like Albert Einstein :P | 15:33 |
| CosmoHill | The main reason for the windows part is because of some windows only software the engineering department would like to run | 15:33 |
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| lcuk | indeed | 15:34 |
| * lcuk has barely looked at irc for most of this week | 15:35 | |
| CosmoHill | I can PM you my dissertation question if you're interested | 15:36 |
| lcuk | go for it | 15:37 |
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| lcuk | CosmoHill, ahh cool, do the clustering tasks have to be specially written and are there any specific languages geared towards it? or can you just use them with some specific python management classes? | 15:51 |
| lcuk | (for instance) | 15:51 |
| CosmoHill | they will use MPI so any language that has support for that | 15:52 |
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| lcuk | oh cool, so with a big shared NAS and some grunt you can start a process across all the machines which can churn through their requests and get you the data at the end | 15:55 |
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| CosmoHill | in theory | 15:56 |
| lcuk | what prevents it from being in practice? | 15:56 |
| CosmoHill | in my theory after 20 mins hard work some of them will die :/ | 15:56 |
| lcuk | well that is to be expected | 15:56 |
| lcuk | machine churn in a cluster is normal | 15:56 |
| CosmoHill | the problem I have is that once a computer dies that\s it, one less node | 15:57 |
| lcuk | indeed it is, does the cluster management software have reporting info about which machines have fallen out of the group? | 15:58 |
| lcuk | so one of the dedicated admins can go and look at it | 15:58 |
| CosmoHill | I believe is does however there may be an issue with that | 15:58 |
| lcuk | or just power up another | 15:58 |
| lcuk | hmm, what issue? | 15:58 |
| CosmoHill | linux will say that windows nodes are down and visa versa | 15:58 |
| lcuk | CosmoHill, hmm? you are saying that if its an all linux cluster it will not report the state of its machines? | 16:00 |
| CosmoHill | the linux head node will | 16:01 |
| CosmoHill | the windows one might think it's all alone in the rack | 16:01 |
| lcuk | ok, so the management software itself has bugs? | 16:02 |
| CosmoHill | I think it's more to do with the management software being OS dependant | 16:03 |
| lcuk | that is a bug. | 16:03 |
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| CosmoHill | there may be some cross-platform software I can use | 16:09 |
| lcuk | CosmoHill, does the clustering software work on the cloud? ie can a remote access cluster be setup which talks to different internet servers? | 16:11 |
| CosmoHill | i have no idea | 16:11 |
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| lcuk | yeah that has all the data connectivity issues too | 16:11 |
| CosmoHill | i think I have two external IP addresses but no open ports | 16:12 |
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| smithna | Hi, has anyone got meego-handset-music working under the ivi image? (it's now included in the repo for ivi) | 18:47 |
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| ilovefairuz | Hello. Is there a planned released of a Tablet UX ? | 19:10 |
| ilovefairuz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqeeQd-YNL0 <-- this one | 19:11 |
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| niala | ilovefairuz, you mean that ? http://meego.com/downloads/releases/1.0.80.8/meego-handset-day1-developer-preview | 19:39 |
| CosmoHill | it would be strongly recommended that you use 1.0.90 | 19:40 |
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| ilovefairuz | niala: no not the handset ux | 19:46 |
| ilovefairuz | it looks like a ux specifically designed for tablets | 19:46 |
| vlcn | a very nice looking one | 19:51 |
| vlcn | first I've seen that ilovefairuz | 19:51 |
| niala | it's seems like if " lang fr " and ' keyboard fr ' instructions doesn't work in .ks file | 19:53 |
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| Aison | evening, I guess this is asked 100times. Can I somehow use meego on my old asus eeepc 4g? | 21:03 |
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| lcuk | Aison, hmm | 21:07 |
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| lcuk | there is a hardware compatability page | 21:07 |
| Aison | yes, I know, and there it's not mentioned | 21:07 |
| Aison | but I also heard that it might work | 21:07 |
| lcuk | have you considered just putting it on a usb stick and trying it? | 21:08 |
| Aison | well, maybe I should, but if I know it's not working, I don't delete my usbstick first | 21:08 |
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| lcuk | Aison, http://wiki.meego.com/Devices#Netbooks | 21:14 |
| lcuk | so your device is not listed here? | 21:14 |
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| * lcuk waves @ araujo \o | 21:14 | |
| lcuk | was your return trip easier than the outbound one? | 21:14 |
| * araujo waves @ lcuk !! | 21:14 | |
| araujo | lcuk, much easier! ... but I felt very tired too :P | 21:15 |
| araujo | lcuk, I had to take only 3 planes , hehe | 21:15 |
| lcuk | of course, it was a long way to travel | 21:15 |
| lcuk | I managed to pack my helicopter! | 21:15 |
| araujo | hahaha | 21:15 |
| lcuk | :D it flies very well! | 21:15 |
| araujo | wow, awesome! | 21:15 |
| araujo | well, good to know you managed to pack it :D | 21:15 |
| lcuk | after I had some beers with Adam at 3am before he setoff back, I was flying it around the room | 21:16 |
| * araujo been sleeping during these last 24 hours | 21:16 | |
| araujo | lcuk, awesome ... I left around that time too ... like 4am or so | 21:16 |
| araujo | lcuk, did you have nice trip too? | 21:17 |
| araujo | though you are a lucky one ... I shouldn't even ask you that :P | 21:17 |
| lcuk | :) I had a very pleasant return leg, I was able to relax on Thursday and met up with a good friend | 21:17 |
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| lcuk | I was sat next to a man from London who had also been visiting Nokia | 21:18 |
| araujo | hehe nice | 21:18 |
| lcuk | though he was from the Nokia Siemens hardware end | 21:19 |
| lcuk | I had to wear my suit though and have my big snow coat on! | 21:19 |
| lcuk | because they would not fit in the suitcase | 21:19 |
| lcuk | :) when I saw my mum after I returned she was very impressed at my smart appearance :) | 21:19 |
| araujo | hehehe ... and at the end .. when started snowing??? | 21:20 |
| araujo | hahaha | 21:20 |
| lcuk | yes, they even delayed the flight, so those of us flying back could see the snow | 21:20 |
| araujo | lcuk, you got style, for sure | 21:20 |
| araujo | :P | 21:20 |
| lcuk | \o/ | 21:20 |
| araujo | ;) | 21:21 |
| thiago_home | snow? | 21:21 |
| thiago_home | been to Helsinki? | 21:21 |
| lcuk | yes thiago_home Helsinki had a light dusting yesterday, many people were happy to see it | 21:21 |
| CosmoHill | boarding? | 21:21 |
| araujo | lcuk, and you know, I also have a snow coat, I just didn't bring it with me ... fortunately I left before snowing :P | 21:22 |
| * thiago_home hasn't been to Helsinki in a while... | 21:22 | |
| thiago_home | 8 days :-) | 21:22 |
| lcuk | lol araujo, you could have kept warm by just keeping close to your big bacon burger :P | 21:22 |
| kyb3R | I always have a stupid smile on my face when I see the first snow :) | 21:23 |
| araujo | lcuk, that big bacon burger could definitely produce lot of heat ..... | 21:23 |
| araujo | :P | 21:23 |
| lcuk | kyb3R, as I walked through Helsinki centre there were people smiling everywhere, the mood was lifted for many people yesterday | 21:23 |
| * lcuk smiled with them :) | 21:23 | |
| kyb3R | nice :) | 21:24 |
| * araujo points out that those people were probably smiling at lcuk suit+snow-coat style though ..... | 21:24 | |
| DocScrutinizer | lcuk: back at home? | 21:24 |
| kyb3R | araujo: hahahah | 21:24 |
| lcuk | lololol araujo | 21:25 |
| araujo | hehe ;) | 21:25 |
| lcuk | but I did buy nicer shirts whilst there | 21:25 |
| thiago_home | suits? who did you go to meet? | 21:26 |
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| lcuk | thiago_home, I was told to dress smart, so I did | 21:27 |
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| harbaum | Hi! | 21:33 |
| harbaum | Is it possible to place ordinary qt widgets within a meegotouch based ui? | 21:34 |
| CosmoHill | hallo | 21:34 |
| thiago_home | harbaum: yes, via QGraphicsProxyWidget | 21:35 |
| thiago_home | your UI will become slow | 21:35 |
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| harbaum | Ok, thanks. Will take a look at this! | 21:35 |
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| lcuk | thiago_home, ? | 21:36 |
| thiago_home | QGraphicsProxyWidget makes it slow | 21:37 |
| frals | lcuk: saw your tweet, shame im in sthlm this weekend, no snow here :( | 21:37 |
| lcuk | no snow in hel either | 21:37 |
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| smithna | What's the difference between hfdialer and the phone app in IVI? | 21:50 |
| pupnik | lcuk: have you heard of a bootable qemu image available yet? | 21:56 |
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| lcuk | not sure pupnik I have been playing with the xephyr one this week I think, but not sure of the technical underpinnings | 22:01 |
| lcuk | http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_SDK_with_Xephyr | 22:01 |
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| pupnik | oh ty sir | 22:06 |
| Aison | lcuk, no, my device is not listed :) | 22:07 |
| lcuk | Aison, would you care to check it out please and list it if it *doesn't* work | 22:08 |
| lcuk | no point in everyone who has incompatible hardware having to tell | 22:08 |
| lcuk | and it would be good to be able to move not working -> working :) | 22:08 |
| lcuk | as patches and fixes come in | 22:08 |
| Aison | ok, I will try | 22:09 |
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| Stskeeps | sofar: uxlaunch sets up .xsession-errors manually right? | 22:34 |
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| lcuk | who here has a beard? | 23:30 |
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| Aison | i'm not | 23:37 |
| Aison | do you need a picture of a taliban? ^^ | 23:37 |
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| erani | http://mobilernr.com/had-apple-announced-the-nokia-n8/ | 23:38 |
| araujo | lcuk, I had ... but I shaved it .... | 23:40 |
| araujo | :P | 23:40 |
| lcuk | araujo, lol | 23:41 |
| araujo | :( | 23:41 |
| lcuk | i found a restaurant I want to visit next time I visit .hel btw | 23:42 |
| araujo | lcuk, which one?, | 23:42 |
| lcuk | so we do not have to stick with McDonalds :P | 23:42 |
| araujo | what kidn of food? | 23:42 |
| araujo | lcuk, that would be nice | 23:43 |
| araujo | :P | 23:43 |
| lcuk | aww I thought you liked your BIG BACON!! | 23:43 |
| araujo | hehehe | 23:43 |
| araujo | had nightmares with it that night | 23:43 |
| araujo | :P | 23:43 |
| lcuk | i walked past it and saw people eating a lovely roast chicken | 23:44 |
| araujo | close to nokia? | 23:44 |
| lcuk | and ait had such a nice aroma coming from the door :) | 23:44 |
| lcuk | yeah up the road towards town from the hotel | 23:44 |
| lcuk | I was walking back towards central | 23:44 |
| araujo | roast chicken definitely makes it .... | 23:45 |
| shadeslayer | ok, quick question, should i buy the N900 or the N8 ? ill probably be buying one of them the next week? | 23:45 |
| * araujo will get lcuk to order the food in finnish again | 23:45 | |
| * shadeslayer is all confused | 23:45 | |
| araujo | shadeslayer, I would go with N900 ... | 23:45 |
| lcuk | http://www.krullas.com/ | 23:46 |
| lcuk | found it | 23:46 |
| shadeslayer | araujo: ok, any news of the N9? | 23:46 |
| lcuk | I took a photo on my way past | 23:46 |
| araujo | shadeslayer, none from my side :P | 23:46 |
| shadeslayer | oh and i bet the N8 isnt hackable enough ... :P | 23:46 |
| shadeslayer | i just like the N8 because it has a capacitive screen :) | 23:47 |
| araujo | lcuk, I was expecting something less .... formal ... :P | 23:47 |
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| mihero | e7 would be better symbian phone, it has qwerty | 23:48 |
| shadeslayer | araujo: oh and will the community be willing to keep rolling out un-official meego images in the future? like ... is there a team dedicated to that? | 23:48 |
| lcuk | araujo, :) my mum told me to be the best I can, so I tried. | 23:48 |
| shadeslayer | mihero: id like to avoid symbian :) | 23:48 |
| mihero | n8 is also symbian:) | 23:49 |
| shadeslayer | yes, but thats precisely why im confused :P | 23:49 |
| araujo | lcuk, just say you want to eat roast chicken in a suit ..... stop the excuses | 23:49 |
| araujo | shadeslayer, you mean, for the N900 ? | 23:50 |
| shadeslayer | araujo: yes | 23:50 |
| lcuk | araujo, it felt a bit odd in McDonalds I would give you that :P | 23:50 |
| araujo | shadeslayer, I would say .. you wouldn't need to worry about that | 23:50 |
| araujo | lcuk, heheh | 23:50 |
| shadeslayer | ok then im covered fair and square i guess | 23:50 |
| lcuk | hey, you missed a great meetup on wednesday night | 23:51 |
| lcuk | there was a great presentation on qml stuff | 23:51 |
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| araujo | lcuk, how was it?, who assisted? | 23:51 |
| shadeslayer | araujo: thanks dude :) | 23:51 |
| araujo | shadeslayer, welcome! | 23:51 |
| araujo | lcuk, ooh, qml .. cool stuff | 23:51 |
| shadeslayer | you guys are discussing qt dev days right :P | 23:51 |
| erani | shadeslayer: i would go for N900 too... | 23:52 |
| lcuk | shadeslayer, no, the helsinki meego meetup | 23:52 |
| shadeslayer | lcuk: oh .. | 23:52 |
| lcuk | what went down at the devdays then? | 23:52 |
| shadeslayer | erani: kewl | 23:52 |
| lcuk | anything cool or exciting? | 23:52 |
| shadeslayer | lcuk: i didnt attend :P | 23:52 |
| shadeslayer | i am attending UDS tho | 23:52 |
| lcuk | shame, who did - are there any shining examples or connections made? | 23:53 |
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| shadeslayer | araujo: are there any prospects of the N9 being released in the coming 2 months? | 23:54 |
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| araujo | shadeslayer, I really couldn't tell you :P | 23:56 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 23:56 |
| shadeslayer | thanks anyways, everyone ... cya later | 23:57 |
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