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| AlexAnteMachina | hi all | 00:03 |
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| AlexAnteMachina | anybody ever installed GoogleEarth on meego? | 00:03 |
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| auke | sure, I have | 00:03 |
| AlexAnteMachina | i wonder why it takes that long | 00:03 |
| auke | how are you installing? | 00:04 |
| auke | it's been a while, I think I just downloaded a tarball originally | 00:04 |
| auke | do they have an rpm now? | 00:04 |
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| AlexAnteMachina | got the *.bin file from the website, then ran it using sh | 00:04 |
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| AlexAnteMachina | its running for over half an hour now | 00:05 |
| etrunko | hello there, does anyone know where in the code i can find who uses libsocialweb? | 00:06 |
| AlexAnteMachina | using other distros on the same machine installing googleearth worked very quick | 00:06 |
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| auke | etrunko, you can query rpm to find out what projects require it, does that answer your question? | 00:09 |
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| seif__ | hey guys | 00:10 |
| auke | AlexAnteMachina, perhaps it's trying to query the network to get cache/map data? | 00:10 |
| seif__ | Stskeeps, how can i get ur drivers for the meego on n900 | 00:10 |
| AlexAnteMachina | nah... it works... but really slow | 00:10 |
| etrunko | aubrey: not quite, i'm actually trying to write an example app (not for meego) that would use libsocialweb as backend | 00:10 |
| etrunko | aubrey: via dbus, of course. :) | 00:11 |
| etrunko | so i'm trying to find an example of use | 00:11 |
| etrunko | not lucky at all so far | 00:11 |
| auke | there's several apps in meego.gitorious.org | 00:11 |
| auke | that's where you probably should look | 00:11 |
| auke | both in the netbook ui and handset ui sections | 00:11 |
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| etrunko | yeah, they're not much descriptive | 00:12 |
| etrunko | will try then | 00:12 |
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| timeless_mbp | oh wow | 01:07 |
| timeless_mbp | qgil worked a miracle | 01:07 |
| timeless_mbp | ok, time for me to play w/ expedia and co | 01:07 |
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| pupnik | how miracle timeless_mbp | 01:09 |
| pupnik | qgil is just great btw. the kind of guy you'd follow into battle. | 01:09 |
| timeless_mbp | oh, i'm going to meegoconf | 01:10 |
| pupnik | dublin? | 01:10 |
| timeless_mbp | yes | 01:10 |
| timeless_mbp | now i just have to figure out when that is | 01:10 |
| pupnik | you should be everywhere - you're the main man with a foot in the community | 01:10 |
| MohammadAG51 | 15 November | 01:11 |
| GAN900 | timeless_mbp, congrats. | 01:11 |
| GAN900 | timeless_mbp, hope to see you there. | 01:11 |
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| pupnik | dublin... maybe i should go too... | 01:12 |
| GAN900 | pupnik, do. | 01:12 |
| pupnik | just to catch a whiff of that country | 01:12 |
| pupnik | i think i will | 01:13 |
| * MohammadAG51 still hasn't decided | 01:13 | |
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| MohammadAG51 | last year at school and all, tickets aren't that cheap for 3 days | 01:13 |
| pupnik | would cost a lot | 01:13 |
| MohammadAG51 | there might be a holiday on 15/11 here, if that's the case i'll go for a week | 01:13 |
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| GAN900 | MohammadAG51, why didn't you apply for sponsorship? | 01:17 |
| MohammadAG51 | I don't think i qualify for one | 01:17 |
| GAN900 | MohammadAG51, how would you know? | 01:19 |
| GAN900 | You're the community SSU guy, c'mon. | 01:19 |
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| MohammadAG51 | heh, still haven't announced that | 01:20 |
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| GAN900 | I hate it when people dismiss themselves from the sponsorship without even applying. | 01:23 |
| GAN900 | Because it's usually people who deserve it. | 01:23 |
| auke | GAN900, so true | 01:24 |
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| ScottishDuck | good workers generally don't crave recognition | 01:24 |
| GAN900 | Which means the sponsorship slots get filled up with people who don't. | 01:25 |
| GAN900 | I should've done more active reconoitering to make sure people whi should've applied, had. | 01:25 |
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| MohammadAG51 | GAN900, there's always next year :) | 01:27 |
| GAN900 | MohammadAG51, hopefully. ;) | 01:28 |
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| * TSCHAKeee2 wants to shoot his archos 9 | 01:28 | |
| TSCHAKeee2 | argh | 01:28 |
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| GAN900 | Why do you have an Archos? | 01:28 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | I wanted to see if I could do meegotouch r&d work on this archos | 01:29 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | because it's got a huge screen | 01:29 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | and it was reasonably x86 bsaed | 01:29 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | and the cpu is pretty fast, and decent performance if you have the right drivers | 01:30 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | problem is | 01:30 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | it's GMA500, _requires EMGD_, and the EMGD that intel builds, only works with Meego 1.0 release | 01:30 |
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| MohammadAG51 | GAN900, when does registration close anyways? | 01:30 |
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| TSCHAKeee2 | MeeGo 1.0 has already moved to Xorg 1.9, and Kernel 2.6.35 | 01:30 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | which EMGD does NOT function correctly with AT ALL. | 01:30 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | no way to patch it | 01:30 |
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| auke | Stskeeps: new sample-media package is pending acceptance for 1.1 core... | 02:01 |
| auke | Stskeeps: if you can, give it a test run | 02:01 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | auke: can we please beg Intel to get EMGD into meego? ;) | 02:02 |
| auke | of course | 02:02 |
| auke | begging is permitted | 02:02 |
| auke | sorry :) | 02:03 |
| * TSCHAKeee2 laughs | 02:03 | |
| TSCHAKeee2 | auke: the whole mess with GMA500 is reducing me to the fetal position. | 02:03 |
| auke | the problem isn't Intel, but the company who Intel got the hardware from | 02:03 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | yeah, i am aware | 02:03 |
| auke | Intel at least has tried hard enough | 02:03 |
| auke | I wonder how many people are standing outside Imagination's building now with signs asking for free drivers :) | 02:05 |
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| TSCHAKeee2 | auke: i am trying like hell to get meegotouch running under gma500 | 02:06 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | and at some point, the shaders changed | 02:06 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | and now mcompositor pukes when I try to run it | 02:06 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | *facepalm* | 02:06 |
| auke | I admire your courage, really | 02:07 |
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| TSCHAKeee2 | auke: I want so badly to make a Tablet UX, because one does not exist yet | 02:09 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | auke: but I can't even get the most basic pieces to function.. I mean dear god, if mcompositor/mdecorator at least would function | 02:10 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | I COULD DO THE REST | 02:10 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | #(#@%(#@%@#(%(#@ :P | 02:10 |
| auke | hehe | 02:10 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | as it is | 02:10 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | i will have to shelve this | 02:10 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | and wait 6 months | 02:10 |
| auke | developing a UI on badly supported hardware... not the best idea :) | 02:10 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | while i have a $400 tablet | 02:10 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | that is now a brick | 02:11 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | auke: it's the right hardware for what i am targeting | 02:11 |
| auke | I know | 02:11 |
| auke | wish I could help, sorry | 02:11 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | something will work... i guess i'll just repurpose mutter | 02:12 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | sigh | 02:12 |
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| auke | nooooo not mutter | 02:13 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | mutter works | 02:14 |
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| GAN900 | MohammadAG51, still open, but sponsorship is closed. | 02:35 |
| sjokkis | i got my approval just now. i'm stoked | 02:39 |
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| thebootroo | hello everybody | 02:44 |
| kevinB | quand est ce que le meilleur os sort | 02:44 |
| auke | kevinB: sorry, english channel | 02:45 |
| thebootroo | 27 of october n00b | 02:45 |
| auke | thebootroo: hello | 02:45 |
| kevinB | I know | 02:45 |
| thebootroo | auke: hello | 02:45 |
| kevinB | I just wanna show how beautiful is french | 02:45 |
| kevinB | ;D | 02:45 |
| kevinB | I said | 02:45 |
| thebootroo | french is ugly (PS: i'm french) | 02:45 |
| kevinB | When s the best OS for smartphone out | 02:45 |
| kevinB | :D | 02:45 |
| kevinB | SoOOOOOOOn | 02:45 |
| auke | thebootroo: why calling people n00b? please don't do that. | 02:46 |
| kevinB | Yes | 02:46 |
| kevinB | you hurted me | 02:46 |
| thebootroo | auke: don't woory its a friend ;-) | 02:46 |
| thebootroo | kevinB: hehe | 02:46 |
| kevinB | no i'm not | 02:46 |
| thebootroo | yes you're | 02:46 |
| thebootroo | .... dearn00b | 02:46 |
| kevinB | He keeps following me on all the chan I gop | 02:46 |
| thebootroo | lol | 02:46 |
| thebootroo | you connect ed AFTER me | 02:47 |
| sjokkis | GAN900: you're going to the conference, right? i'm having a tad bit of difficulty finding really cheap tickets. what's considered acceptable? | 02:47 |
| thebootroo | so you keep on following me | 02:47 |
| auke | thebootroo: kevinB: please, no games in here. | 02:47 |
| kevinB | ;) | 02:47 |
| thebootroo | auke: ok | 02:47 |
| thebootroo | ./kick KevinB | 02:47 |
| thebootroo | hehe | 02:47 |
| thebootroo | so | 02:47 |
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| thebootroo | did anyone here achieved on getting a regular Maemo 5 Plain Qt app (Facebrick, Grr ...) running on MeeGo handset ? and i f yes, how does it looked like ? did it have MeeGo's Style ? | 02:49 |
| lcuk | thebootroo, theres a bug relating: http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7881 | 02:49 |
| thebootroo | sudo kevin -quit | 02:49 |
| thebootroo | ;-) | 02:49 |
| v2px | the last archivement i unlocked was: bringing your n900 to the store for usb-port repair | 02:50 |
| thebootroo | lcuk: what is this bug related ? | 02:50 |
| thebootroo | v2px: sry for u | 02:50 |
| v2px | :| | 02:50 |
| v2px | it's gone for 2 days now | 02:50 |
| sjokkis | DawnFoster: you around? | 02:50 |
| thebootroo | v2px: soooo sad :-( | 02:51 |
| v2px | i'm glad i kept my 6230 :D | 02:51 |
| thebootroo | lcuk: this is a serious problem IMo | 02:52 |
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| thebootroo | cant even launch a qt app in a qt wm ! O.o | 02:52 |
| thebootroo | so this means window integration is not done vie XReparentWindow() ?? | 02:53 |
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| lcuk | thebootroo, it means its a bug :O | 02:53 |
| thebootroo | lcuk: a very strange bug tough | 02:54 |
| thebootroo | so apps need to be in libmt to work ? | 02:54 |
| lcuk | temporary oversight | 02:54 |
| thebootroo | kind of active integration in compositor instead of passive one ? | 02:54 |
| lcuk | gtk ones work :P | 02:55 |
| lcuk | to a degree | 02:55 |
| thebootroo | even more strange so | 02:55 |
| thebootroo | but xterm don't | 02:55 |
| thebootroo | and another Q: | 02:59 |
| thebootroo | is the camera app for handset UX being developped ? | 02:59 |
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| auke | see: http://meego.gitorious.com/meego-handset-ux for a list of handset UX applications and components | 03:01 |
| thebootroo | so no | 03:02 |
| auke | did you look? | 03:02 |
| thebootroo | yes | 03:02 |
| wmarone | what's this: http://meego.gitorious.com/meego-handset-ux/meego-handset-photo | 03:03 |
| thebootroo | the album ;-) | 03:03 |
| auke | actually | 03:04 |
| auke | yes | 03:04 |
| auke | there's no camera application for handset UX yet, is the answer I got | 03:04 |
| thebootroo | yes | 03:04 |
| auke | it's planned for 1.2 | 03:05 |
| thebootroo | 2bad | 03:05 |
| auke | anything else I can help you with? | 03:05 |
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| thebootroo | one thing thaht i woudl have loved to see in meego browser (which is fennec, i don't like it very much but so..) is the swirling zoom, like in maemo 5 | 03:06 |
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| thebootroo | and i really wonder why they keep using a such browser, when its so easy to develop a qt one since QtWebkit is well integrated | 03:07 |
| thebootroo | i dont like gtk, nor gecko | 03:07 |
| auke | I think there are plans to do something like that | 03:07 |
| thebootroo | do what ? | 03:07 |
| auke | switch to a different browser engine | 03:08 |
| thebootroo | they can drop the complete browser cause ui toolkit is wrong too (they have to overlay the ux to get integrated - far from perfect - in meego UX) | 03:08 |
| thebootroo | i think a full libMeeGoTouch browser would be well, and quite quick to develop | 03:09 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | thebootroo: do it | 03:10 |
| thebootroo | i've myself developped a couple of programs in qt and this is very quick | 03:10 |
| auke | yup | 03:10 |
| thebootroo | TSCHAKeee2: sry i already have a big project on my shoulder | 03:10 |
| auke | what project is that? | 03:10 |
| thebootroo | ModernOS | 03:10 |
| auke | will it help MeeGo? | 03:10 |
| thebootroo | not specially | 03:11 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | amazing how many ppl think they can make a linux distribution | 03:11 |
| thebootroo | the project is very anterior to meegi | 03:11 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | or a whole new OS | 03:11 |
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| thebootroo | TSCHAKeee2: yes I can because I want | 03:11 |
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| thebootroo | its not yet another distro, its a deeply rethinked linux kernel and qt based OS for noobs | 03:12 |
| thebootroo | http://modern-os.projects.servhome.org/news-item?id=77 | 03:12 |
| * TSCHAKeee2 has been working on a massive whole house smart home platform for almost a decade, and still has 20 years of work left to do. | 03:12 | |
| thebootroo | my website is in french but screenies are in english | 03:12 |
| thebootroo | i've for example implemented the Maemo 5 switcher in and it's all qt | 03:12 |
| thebootroo | you may find a taste of moblin / meego netbook, but don't get wrong, i had the idea for my project since 6 years, so before the first moblin version | 03:14 |
| auke | no worries | 03:15 |
| auke | alright, I'm packing up | 03:15 |
| auke | later folks | 03:16 |
| thebootroo | ok bb | 03:16 |
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| basilarchia | has anyone here ever tried to turn the emgd driver for the tunnel creek into a raw framebuffer driver (as in /dev/fb0)? | 07:31 |
| basilarchia | it looks like it might be doable. (the driver is here: http://gitorious.org/~xinyunliu/meego-os-base/xylius-kernel-source) | 07:32 |
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| sjokkis | brik: high five! | 11:09 |
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| timeless_mbp | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=590683 crashes Firefox with gcc 4.5 because gcc 4.5 is broken | 12:50 |
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| ScottishDuck | GNU always make such high quality products | 12:54 |
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| Stskeeps | lo wazd | 16:38 |
| sivang | hey Stskeeps | 16:39 |
| Stskeeps | afternoon sivang | 16:39 |
| sivang | are there any options for emulation/simulation SDK for meego for people without VT? | 16:39 |
| sivang | like how scratchbox runs on my LG T380 uv | 16:40 |
| sivang | :) | 16:40 |
| Stskeeps | qemu n900 should come at some point | 16:40 |
| sivang | and in the meanwhile there's the netbook ? | 16:40 |
| sivang | qemu | 16:40 |
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| wazd | Stskeeps: heya :) | 17:03 |
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| Stskeeps | morning qgil | 17:16 |
| * qgil brings to wiki.meego.com the table-art developed at wiki.maemo.org e.g. http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Sprints/November_08 :) | 17:16 | |
| qgil | hi there Stskeeps | 17:16 |
| * qgil is working on http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office/Marketing/Meego.com_1.1_update now | 17:17 | |
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| RST38h | qgil: BORDER=1 =) | 17:18 |
| sivang | qgil: took me a while to respond to your last note re: cross symbian/meego through qt. Been a bit ill and got tied up with work. | 17:18 |
| Stskeeps | qgil: can maybe tie into http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Plans/1.1/1.1.0.0 as well | 17:18 |
| qgil | RST38h: :) just gimme some time | 17:18 |
| sivang | http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Plans/1.1/1.1.0.0#Planned_bugfixes_2 | 17:19 |
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| sivang | nice, we jsut needt o hae bug there, this way people could ask to work on any of them | 17:19 |
| Stskeeps | sivang: picked up straight from bugzilla | 17:19 |
| Stskeeps | (target build) | 17:19 |
| sivang | Stskeeps: who integrated? | 17:19 |
| qgil | Stskeeps: interesting page. Is it all about the final-final 1.1 release? | 17:20 |
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| Stskeeps | qgil: http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Plans/1.1 - each weekly has 'details' | 17:20 |
| qgil | I know that one | 17:20 |
| Stskeeps | 1.1.0.0 is one of those | 17:21 |
| qgil | what I need to do is the To-Do of the final release | 17:21 |
| sivang | why oh why doesn't the wiki take me to the page I was reading before I logged in :) | 17:21 |
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| sivang | Stskeeps: trying to see what sort of markup you used there for extracting the bugs :-p | 17:21 |
| Stskeeps | sivang: ah | 17:21 |
| qgil | Stskeeps: I'll continue with that table in the meego.com subpage and then we'll see | 17:22 |
| Stskeeps | qgil: yeah, the release pages aren't really in use either, just thought i'd note that it exists too :) | 17:22 |
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| sivang | Stskeeps: nice, so mediawiki runs a bugzilla query | 17:26 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 17:26 |
| Stskeeps | very useful | 17:26 |
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| sivang | and futturezilla is like Launchpad's blueprints system? | 17:26 |
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| djszapi_ | hey, how can I install git in scratchbox ? | 17:49 |
| djszapi_ | apt-cache search git does not return any relevant package. | 17:49 |
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| djszapi_ | deb http://scratchbox.org/debian stable main | 17:50 |
| djszapi_ | deb http://scratchbox.org/debian ./ | 17:50 |
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| djszapi_ | I have just tried those lines in my /etc/apt/sources.list | 17:50 |
| Stskeeps | this is meego, we don't have scratchbox | 17:50 |
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| djszapi_ | y, but someone can answer it though | 17:52 |
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| Stskeeps | do you ask the price of bacon in a vegetarian irc channel? | 17:53 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:53 |
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| djszapi_ | I do not think it is such a matter. | 17:54 |
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| qgil | much better now :) http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office/Marketing/Meego.com_1.1_update | 17:59 |
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| Stskeeps | morn DawnFoster - feeling better today? | 18:07 |
| DawnFoster | Stskeeps: still trying to decide, but not really much better :) | 18:07 |
| DawnFoster | thanks for asking | 18:07 |
| DawnFoster | migraines take a few days to recover from | 18:08 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 18:08 |
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| Jaffa | DawnFoster: Tell me about it - still feeling shitty from being in bed all day yesterday. | 18:10 |
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| DawnFoster | jaffa: yeah, I spent al day yesterday laying down - still dizzy and nauseous today. Trying to work a little, but not sure how long I can make it | 18:11 |
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| DawnFoster | jaffa: hope you're starting to feel better | 18:11 |
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| Saviq | DawnFoster: hi, any news? should I have received something after your last meeting? | 18:23 |
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| DawnFoster | saviq: our email to you bounced - let me send you a pm. | 18:25 |
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| fiferboy | GAN900: GeneralAntilles: ping? | 20:10 |
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| GAN900 | fiferboy, pong? | 20:26 |
| GAN900 | fiferboy, pong? | 20:26 |
| fiferboy | GAN900: Did you catch Halladay's performance? | 20:26 |
| GAN900 | fiferboy, nope. | 20:27 |
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| vasily_pupkin | hi | 22:19 |
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| Stskeeps | hi | 22:19 |
| vasily_pupkin | is there any port of meego with native 2.6.22 n810 kernel? | 22:19 |
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| vasily_pupkin | may be "for" :] | 22:19 |
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| Stskeeps | vasily_pupkin: nop, just .35 | 22:19 |
| vasily_pupkin | eh | 22:19 |
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| vasily_pupkin | wifi works? | 22:19 |
| Stskeeps | didn't test recently | 22:20 |
| Stskeeps | p54spi | 22:20 |
| vasily_pupkin | hm | 22:20 |
| ScottishDuck | is 1.2 sticking with .35 | 22:20 |
| ScottishDuck | or migrating to .36/7 | 22:21 |
| vasily_pupkin | and how powersaving works? | 22:21 |
| Stskeeps | badly | 22:21 |
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| crismon | Hi channel :) I have a question. If is possible to install Smeegol to eeepc900? | 22:22 |
| crismon | i've tried liveusb but i con't find the install option | 22:22 |
| sjokkis | DawnFoster: got a question for you if you're around | 22:23 |
| Stskeeps | crismon: probably a good question for #opensuse-moblin | 22:23 |
| crismon | Stskeeps: thank you | 22:23 |
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| Pillum | hey guys | 23:52 |
| Pillum | whats the difference between core-n900 and handset-n900 images? | 23:53 |
| Robot101 | handset has the handset user experience, I guess | 23:54 |
| Pillum | what means? | 23:54 |
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| Pillum | handset has alot more packages i see | 23:56 |
| Pillum | most of them are for messaging and calling | 23:56 |
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| thebootroo | core means not user interface, just common base of all editions | 23:57 |
| auke | core is used for validation purposes | 23:58 |
| thebootroo | then plug on the ux you want (handset, tablet, netbook , ivi, desktop...) | 23:58 |
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| auke | it's not meant for used consumption | 23:58 |
| auke | s/used/user | 23:58 |
| Pillum | theres a desktop meego? | 23:58 |
| auke | netbook | 23:58 |
| thebootroo | with Core you can get only X and a terminal | 23:58 |
| thebootroo | Pillum: not yet | 23:58 |
| thebootroo | Pillum: but that's possible | 23:59 |
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| Pillum | thebootroo: but its planned? | 23:59 |
| Pillum | ah | 23:59 |
| auke | actually, there's more than just X and a terminal in Core | 23:59 |
| thebootroo | MeeGo is meant to but modular | 23:59 |
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| thebootroo | auke: i meant in terms of UI | 23:59 |
| auke | there's no desktop UX planned, the netbook UX will work on desktop just fine | 23:59 |
| thebootroo | i know core embeds Qt4.7, open ssh ... | 23:59 |
| FunkyPenguin | could someone advise on where in panel-web does it call chromium-browser? | 23:59 |
| auke | auke: parts of the handset UI are in Core | 23:59 |
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