| auke | er, that was meant for thebootroo | 00:00 |
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| thebootroo | auke: just the meego touch framework and its example, but no handset APPlication | 00:00 |
| thebootroo | ok guys | 00:01 |
| thebootroo | i have to leave | 00:01 |
| thebootroo | bb | 00:01 |
| auke | correct, hence, more than just a terminal. | 00:01 |
| thebootroo | auke: user will get no launcher at boot an see just a term to run manually some examples app | 00:02 |
| thebootroo | so for beginner user, you got 'just' a term | 00:02 |
| thebootroo | ok this time i go | 00:03 |
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| thebootroo | bye all | 00:03 |
| auke | as I said... -core is not for user consumption | 00:03 |
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| auke | what defines core has nothing to do with what the startup UI is... | 00:03 |
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| CosmoHill | hey auke | 00:12 |
| CosmoHill | I've just finished coding my chain hashing homework :) | 00:12 |
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| auke | LOL | 00:19 |
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| CosmoHill | if I'm honest, that wasn't the response I was expecting | 00:20 |
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| auke | sorry, I'm easily amused... procrastinating about making a ppt :/ | 00:21 |
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| CosmoHill | I hope it works better than my lecturer's, his come out weird on everyone's laptop | 00:24 |
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| CosmoHill | auke: wanna see my code, might take up a minite of two :) | 00:26 |
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| CosmoHill | http://pastebin.cross-lfs.org/16340 | 00:28 |
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| tLight | give me URL for suitable REP, please | 06:29 |
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| kunal | trying the Build rpm without chroot or OBS getting errors | 08:21 |
| kunal | some one knows about the same? | 08:21 |
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| timakima | i'm planning to get a laptop that i could run meego sdk ( http://wiki.meego.com/Getting_started_with_the_MeeGo_SDK_for_Linux#Pre-requisites ), and would work also otherwise decently with linux (sleeping, wlan etc). do you have any good experiences with laptops you could recommend? | 12:48 |
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| npr664 | Hello! | 13:39 |
| npr664 | If you do not mind I am going to ask a question. | 13:39 |
| npr664 | Do you know if there are any current operating system version Meego, with support multitouch? | 13:39 |
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| Tumi_ | timakima: we use samsung-nc10 | 13:54 |
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| Tumi_ | although, IMO, development is easier by running on QEMU on desktop PC | 13:55 |
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| timakima | Tumi_: we have nc10 too but would like to have more power :) | 14:04 |
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| Tumi_ | power is overestimated. optimize your code! ;D | 14:07 |
| CosmoHill | lol | 14:08 |
| * CosmoHill looks at adobe | 14:08 | |
| CosmoHill | I don't like the fact that we need more and more powerful computers to do the same stuff | 14:09 |
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| CosmoHill | like itunes 10 requires a 1Ghz processor where as before 10 it was 500Mhz or osmehting | 14:09 |
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| timakima | a big hammer and brute force solves all problems :) | 14:09 |
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| CosmoHill | I shouldn't need a big hammer for 480p youtube | 14:10 |
| Tumi_ | if it has extracoolglorious enhancement algorithms! | 14:14 |
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| timakima | couple of years ago i updated from 1ghz powerpc to 2,2 ghz core2duo running os x. and my first reaction was that the ui is slower | 14:14 |
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| Tumi_ | I never used powerpc macs :/ with core2duo it was running quite nicely anyway | 14:16 |
| Tumi_ | just needs SSD =) | 14:16 |
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| pexi_ | i recall that osx was very slow on g4, especially with low ram | 14:17 |
| timakima | i liked the powerpc ibook much more than the new ones. lot better build quality and better keyboard. i run debian in it but it gets difficult to get powerpc binaries for some applications | 14:17 |
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| lcuk | CosmoHill, kittens look cuter in HD | 14:17 |
| timakima | 10.3 was ok | 14:17 |
| pexi_ | 10.3. with g4 and 512mt ram was ok | 14:18 |
| pexi_ | but with finder you had to play some beach games time to time | 14:18 |
| sharpneli | I've been away for awhile so I've missed a lot. What were thoughts here considering the resignation of Ari Jaaksi? | 14:18 |
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| pexi_ | but real multitasking apps were pretty nice | 14:19 |
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| CosmoHill | I find that spotlight / finder on 10.5 goes a little nuts sometimes | 14:19 |
| * CosmoHill runs 10.5 on a 1.67Ghz G4 (fastest apple did) with 1.5GB of RAM | 14:20 | |
| npr664 | Excuse me! | 14:20 |
| npr664 | If you do not mind I am going to ask a question. | 14:20 |
| npr664 | Do you know if there are any current operating system version Meego, with support multitouch? | 14:20 |
| Stskeeps | npr664: meego 1.1 does, i think | 14:21 |
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| npr664 | This is done by the library libmeegotouch? | 14:22 |
| Stskeeps | xorg, qt | 14:23 |
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| npr664 | Then Meego supports multitouch | 14:23 |
| npr664 | but, are there any application developed for multi-touch? | 14:24 |
| mece | browser at least. | 14:24 |
| Stskeeps | i think duihome uses it | 14:24 |
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| npr664 | I mean in the repositories | 14:25 |
| mece | I meant photobrowser. | 14:25 |
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| npr664 | So photobrowser supports multi-touch? | 14:26 |
| CosmoHill | why does collabora sound familar | 14:26 |
| CosmoHill | npr664: i think you can pintch to zoom in and our | 14:27 |
| CosmoHill | out* | 14:27 |
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| npr664 | ok.. thank you! | 14:31 |
| npr664 | bye! | 14:31 |
| CosmoHill | cyas .o/ | 14:31 |
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| asdaQQ | is FAKE ??? --> http://tessatheslut.com/?id=7ve8h00h3wxnwgu1q8cqlwcp8stt4t | 16:09 |
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| CosmoHill | god dammit I need to stop clicking links from random people | 16:11 |
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| frals | CosmoHill: "tessa the slut dot com" didnt sound any alarms in your head? ;) | 16:28 |
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| lcuk | frals, I imagine some people have similar set as homepage | 16:33 |
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| tLight | give any rep URL for meego | 16:36 |
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| Stskeeps | repo.meego.com .. | 16:36 |
| tLight | no... there is too little | 16:37 |
| Stskeeps | no, there's all | 16:37 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:37 |
| tLight | fedora core suit? | 16:37 |
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| Stskeeps | uhm..? | 16:37 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:37 |
| tLight | i need ntfs-3g, gcc, some office, wine | 16:38 |
| tLight | samba also | 16:38 |
| Stskeeps | look for community repos on forum.meego.com | 16:38 |
| Stskeeps | gcc's on repo.meego.com though | 16:38 |
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| timoph | would be a weird distro without gcc :) | 16:38 |
| tLight | this cheched, but when compile, gcc not found | 16:38 |
| Stskeeps | tLight: you have to install it | 16:39 |
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| tLight | if i load Live Flash with "rw root... " this wiil be as well as i worked with installed meego? | 16:42 |
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| tLight | after install Meego on netbook Lenovo s10-3t, windows says "battery need to replace" | 16:45 |
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| tLight | command "yum" not found, Release 1.0.90 | 17:01 |
| Stskeeps | zypper.. | 17:02 |
| tLight | netbook | 17:02 |
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| tLight | trying do this: | 18:13 |
| tLight | sudo zypper addrepo ftp://volkoff.ru/repo/meego/i386/ "Community Repo" | 18:13 |
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| tLight | says, System management is locked by the application with pid (zypper) | 18:13 |
| tLight | but i not start this | 18:14 |
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| tLight | how add rep in zypper , release 1.0.90 | 18:15 |
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| qgil | dneary "[~dneary@Maemo/community/docmaster/dneary] has joined #meego" - how do you do this? | 18:39 |
| dneary | I guess it's that cloak thing someone mentioned a few months ago | 18:40 |
| dneary | I didn't do anything specifically | 18:40 |
| dneary | I bet your is similar (try leaving & coming back, I'll tell you) | 18:40 |
| qgil | aaaahhh - one image is more worth than thousand words ;) | 18:40 |
| lcuk | qgil, I believe its X-Fade that arranges them (at least fro mthe maemo side) | 18:40 |
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| dneary | I don't really care ;) | 18:40 |
| Stskeeps | qgil: http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:maemo.org_IRC_cloaks | 18:40 |
| GAN900 | qgil, cloaks we handed out earlier in the year. | 18:40 |
| qgil | nor me, but I was curious about the How | 18:40 |
| lcuk | qgil, its based on the freenode GRF | 18:41 |
| GAN900 | qgil, talk to X-Fade or me. | 18:41 |
| dneary | You can see it if you look at the nickserv messages when you register | 18:41 |
| GAN900 | Not sure for MeeGo. | 18:41 |
| qgil | now it's evident that I never quite got the cloaks discussion :) | 18:41 |
| dneary | -NickServ- You are now identified for dneary. | 18:41 |
| dneary | --- Maemo/community/docmaster/dneary :is now your hidden host (set by services.) | 18:41 |
| dneary | qgil, Me too | 18:41 |
| dneary | GAN900, It's not a chanserv thing, it's a nickserv thing | 18:41 |
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| dneary | DawnFoster, Ping? | 18:42 |
| DawnFoster | hey dneary | 18:42 |
| dneary | DawnFoster, Fancy running a mass werewolf game at the meego conference? I'd love to play, never seen the game in action | 18:42 |
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| DawnFoster | oooooh, I would love to do that! | 18:43 |
| dneary | DawnFoster, If we get ~30 players, 4 werewolves... | 18:43 |
| DawnFoster | and I've done a fair amount of moderating | 18:43 |
| dneary | DawnFoster, Although you'll have to explain the set-up | 18:43 |
| DawnFoster | for 30 players, I might even do 5 werewolves. | 18:43 |
| DawnFoster | I can do that | 18:43 |
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| DawnFoster | We play monthly in Portland and we always have new players to explain it to | 18:43 |
| dneary | Does everyone lie down on the ground? Seems like you'd make noise getting up to see who the other werewolves are & give yourself away | 18:43 |
| DawnFoster | no | 18:44 |
| qgil | cloaks, werewolves... I'm learning a lot of unexpected things today | 18:44 |
| Stskeeps | it sure feels like a friday | 18:44 |
| DawnFoster | we sit in a circle and make noise during the night cycle to cover up movement | 18:44 |
| dneary | qgil, werewolf is a group game involving deceipt & strategy | 18:44 |
| DawnFoster | mooing, zombie noises or foot stomping | 18:44 |
| qgil | that makes everything clear ;) | 18:44 |
| dneary | qgil, You have a group of players, with 1 "seer" who can find out (via the moderator) if a given person is a werewolf or a human | 18:45 |
| DawnFoster | here's a simple explanation: http://www.portlandwerewolf.com/rules | 18:45 |
| DawnFoster | it's actually really easy | 18:45 |
| dneary | A number of werewolves, who know who the other werewolves are | 18:45 |
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| dneary | And the rest of people are villagers | 18:45 |
| DawnFoster | because you have a moderator who tells you exactly what to do every step of the wy | 18:45 |
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| dneary | Every night, the werewolves decide to kill someone, the seer gets to find out about 1 participant, and every morning, when everyone wakes up, the villagers form a mob & decide to lynch someone | 18:46 |
| dneary | And then they find out if the person they lynched was a werewolf or a human | 18:46 |
| RST38h | dneary: Is it a double feature? | 18:46 |
| RST38h | dneary: Werevolves + Angry Mobs? | 18:47 |
| dneary | So the werewolves are always trying to cast suspicion on people other than themselves, trying to kill the seer (who has more information), the seer is trying to cast suspicion on the werewolves without revealing that she's a seer | 18:47 |
| dneary | And the villagers are trying to work out who's playing them and is thus a werewold | 18:47 |
| dneary | RST38h, Yup | 18:47 |
| dneary | It sounds like fun | 18:47 |
| dneary | DawnFoster, Does that summarise roughly the game? | 18:48 |
| DawnFoster | I'll need to get some more werewolf cards to bring with me - unless someone else has a couple of decks? | 18:48 |
| DawnFoster | dneary: I think that about covers it | 18:48 |
| dneary | DawnFoster, I found a PDF today | 18:48 |
| dneary | http://eblong.com/zarf/pic/werewolf-cards-novo-1.1.pdf | 18:49 |
| DawnFoster | A friend of mine has printed a bunch of decks - he was talking about making some more, so I'm going to check with him first | 18:49 |
| theplic | ooh so the wolf game got here too | 18:50 |
| theplic | man this is sick | 18:50 |
| DawnFoster | we have some other special roles to that we might break out - healer, little girl, etc. | 18:50 |
| theplic | we play it on the irc channel | 18:50 |
| theplic | its a nice game though | 18:50 |
| dneary | RST38h, The game ends when all the werewolves are dead (humans win) or there are as many werewolves as humans left (werewolves gang up on humans & slaughter them) | 18:50 |
| dneary | DawnFoster, What does the healer do? Is this the wolfsbane player I read about who decides who to protect every night? | 18:51 |
| DawnFoster | the healer decides who to protect | 18:52 |
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| GAN900 | We play that as Mafia in the South. | 18:52 |
| GAN900 | Oof, there's some lag. | 18:53 |
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| DawnFoster | yeah, it's just like mafia | 18:54 |
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| DawnFoster | I might even print up some special meego conference decks that we can use. Hmmmm | 18:54 |
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| dneary | hehe | 18:55 |
| dneary | I can see I've given you work... | 18:55 |
| dneary | When do you think would be a good time? | 18:55 |
| dneary | Sunday evening, maybe? | 18:55 |
| sofar | wherewolves? what? | 18:55 |
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| DawnFoster | every evening? ;) | 18:55 |
| DawnFoster | Let's plan a formal game for Sunday evening & we can do some informal ones after the evening events on other days if people are interestes | 18:56 |
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| fale | hi, have I selected the wrong repo or the 1.0.x unstable branch has no update sinse the 2nd of October? | 19:15 |
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| auke | fale: what's the x number exactly? | 19:22 |
| fale | auke: 1.0.99 | 19:23 |
| auke | ok so | 19:24 |
| auke | the pre-1.1 branch is mostly frozen, so there will be very little updates to it | 19:24 |
| auke | where do your repo files point to? | 19:24 |
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| fale | auke: http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/1.0.90.4.20100928.1/netbook/repos/ia32/packages | 19:25 |
| auke | in general, the repo files for a numbered subversion point to that subversion only, and will not get you updates | 19:25 |
| auke | yup | 19:25 |
| auke | note the 1.0.90.4 in there? | 19:25 |
| fale | auke: the thing is that I still see a lot of bugs, and I though there would be work on them before freeze everything... | 19:26 |
| auke | they're being fixed | 19:26 |
| auke | except the fixes are in 1.0.99.0, 1.0.99.1 etc | 19:26 |
| auke | the image you have isn't meant to auto-update, it's a snapshot | 19:26 |
| auke | for testign | 19:26 |
| fale | auke: why I don't see anything more than 1.0.99.0-20101005 ? | 19:26 |
| auke | that was the latest pre-1.1 release | 19:27 |
| auke | today is 20100108, so only 3 days after 20101005 | 19:27 |
| auke | next release will be next week | 19:27 |
| fale | so I'm looking in the right folder ( http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/1.0.99/ ) isn't it? | 19:27 |
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| auke | depends on what you want | 19:28 |
| fale | auke: the closest thing possible to 1.1 ;) | 19:28 |
| auke | then sure, you can add the 1.0.99 repos to your system to get those updates | 19:29 |
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| fale | auke: I think I gave you the wrong repo before, let me check | 19:29 |
| fale | auke: no, is the right one, but I thought I changed it -.- the right one is the /daily ? | 19:30 |
| auke | official update repos for 1.1 have not been posted yet | 19:31 |
| auke | /daily is not appropriate for 1.1 | 19:31 |
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| qgil | Someone tells me on twitter: RC3 posted 2 times at 1.1.99.2 and 1.1.99.3 Should there be RC4 and this is just typo? | 19:37 |
| pupnik_ | qgil: look what fits in a n810 sized tablet (3000) http://imgur.com/un2k6.jpg | 19:38 |
| pupnik_ | evening :) | 19:38 |
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| qgil | pupnik_: is this your new self-made anti-scratch filter ? | 19:39 |
| fale | auke: even the /daily of 1.0.99? | 19:40 |
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| auke | fale: there's nothing posted there since 20101005 anyway | 19:41 |
| fale | auke: yeah, that's the thing :| | 19:41 |
| pupnik_ | it's a lot of battery. gotta love the BP-4L | 19:42 |
| fale | auke: so, I guess, I'll need to report all the bugs I'm seeing to see some of theme fixed | 19:42 |
| auke | fale: yup | 19:43 |
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| dneary | DawnFoster, Sounds good | 19:44 |
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| fale | in which module am I supposed to post a bug about suspending issues? | 19:49 |
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| arcticrobot | hi there | 19:51 |
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| arcticrobot | I have a quick question about Meego Release Engineering Plans for 1.2 wiki page | 19:51 |
| arcticrobot | there is two Release Candidates listed at 1.1.99.2 and 1.1.99.3 | 19:52 |
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| arcticrobot | I mean Release Candidates 3 | 19:52 |
| arcticrobot | http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Plans/1.2 | 19:52 |
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| arcticrobot | Is that just a typo and there should be a RC4 at 1.1.99.3? | 19:54 |
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| auke | arcticrobot: looks like it | 20:02 |
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| arcticrobot | auke, thanks | 20:06 |
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| * CosmoHill will be teaching his friend c++ and other stuff real soon | 20:15 | |
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| auke | wildc4rd: we're not doing moblin anymore, and that's official | 20:16 |
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| MeeGoExperts | Whats the reasoning of not including Yum in the incremental builds ? | 20:17 |
| wildc4rd | kk, if I'm honest I've not done moblin for 6 months, but I'll try it again soon | 20:17 |
| MeeGoExperts | Hi everyone btw !!! | 20:17 |
| CosmoHill | MeeGoExperts: zypper is replacing yum | 20:18 |
| MeeGoExperts | Cool | 20:18 |
| CosmoHill | from Meego 1.1 zypper will be the only package manager | 20:18 |
| auke | please report issues with zypper to me or file a bugreport right away | 20:19 |
| * CosmoHill makes a note | 20:19 | |
| auke | that way we can make things smooth from 1.2 on | 20:19 |
| MeeGoExperts | oh cool. How do you make it do a "group install" | 20:19 |
| MeeGoExperts | ? | 20:19 |
| CosmoHill | why does yum and zypper give me a "illegal instruction" error on non-SSSE3 computers? | 20:20 |
| auke | it's optimized | 20:20 |
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| CosmoHill | MeeGoExperts: zypper install -t pattern [group] | 20:20 |
| auke | zypper install -t pattern pattern-name | 20:20 |
| auke | run `zypper pt` to see patterns | 20:20 |
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| MeeGoExperts | Thanks CosmoHill and auke | 20:21 |
| CosmoHill | you're welcome | 20:21 |
| MeeGoExperts | *makes quick note* | 20:21 |
| auke | infobot: patterns is a method to install groups with zypper. Use `zypper pt` to list patterns, use `zypper install -t pattern pattern-name` to install them. | 20:21 |
| infobot | okay, auke | 20:21 |
| auke | ~patterns | 20:21 |
| infobot | [patterns] a method to install groups with zypper. Use `zypper pt` to list patterns, use `zypper install -t pattern pattern-name` to install them. | 20:21 |
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| CosmoHill | oo nice | 20:21 |
| auke | yep | 20:21 |
| CosmoHill | hey thiago_home | 20:22 |
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| CosmoHill | auke: how do I find out all the information stored in the bot? | 20:22 |
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| auke | infobot: zypper is the replacement for yum in MeeGo from 1.1 on. See ~patterns for info on how to install groups with zypper. | 20:22 |
| infobot | auke: okay | 20:22 |
| auke | I think you can /q the bot and query it | 20:22 |
| CosmoHill | ~nickmeter auke | 20:24 |
| infobot | auke is 100% lame with a cherry on top! | 20:24 |
| * CosmoHill hides | 20:24 | |
| auke | lol | 20:25 |
| auke | ~nickmeter cosmohill | 20:25 |
| infobot | cosmohill is 100% lame with a cherry on top! | 20:25 |
| * CosmoHill noms said cherry | 20:25 | |
| MeeGoExperts | lol @ infobot | 20:25 |
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| CosmoHill | ~nickmeter w00t_ | 20:26 |
| infobot | w00t_ is 100% lame with a cherry on top! | 20:26 |
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| MeeGoExperts | *using zypper for group install* :-) | 20:28 |
| RST38h | auke: So how many package managers doesmeego have now? | 20:28 |
| auke | technically 2: zypper and packagekit | 20:28 |
| MeeGoExperts | I think there are quite a few people still looking for yum to do this (like I was) | 20:28 |
| CosmoHill | auke: maybe you should put a small script in | 20:29 |
| CosmoHill | when someone runs' "yum" it goes "please use zypper instead" | 20:29 |
| Myrtti | hrm | 20:29 |
| MeeGoExperts | On the development builds it just saus command not found | 20:29 |
| RST38h | auke: Why packagekit then? | 20:30 |
| CosmoHill | echo "#/bin/sh\nPlease use zypper instead." > /usr/bin/yum | 20:30 |
| CosmoHill | chmod +x /usr/bin/yum | 20:30 |
| CosmoHill | :) | 20:30 |
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| CosmoHill | crap, I missed out echo in the echo | 20:30 |
| Myrtti | MeeGoExperts: are you MeeGoExperts in Twitter too? | 20:31 |
| MeeGoExperts | Yes | 20:31 |
| MeeGoExperts | Tend to post everything related to MeeGo | 20:31 |
| MeeGoExperts | Or try. | 20:32 |
| Myrtti | right | 20:32 |
| CosmoHill | are you one person (physically)? | 20:32 |
| RST38h | Mhm | 20:32 |
| Myrtti | I was just wondering about the UK MeeGo Experts meetup, why isn't it a Local Meego Network? | 20:32 |
| CosmoHill | what meet up? | 20:32 |
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| MeeGoExperts | Mainly at the moment. Ive had a few people come and go ..... | 20:32 |
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| CosmoHill | that reminds me, my uni's had all week to email me about rooms | 20:33 |
| MeeGoExperts | The meetup started as a general tech meetup and now has become more termed as a Meego meetup (incorporating tech). I do need to set the entry on the Local Meego Network | 20:34 |
| CosmoHill | if you do set up one it would raise awareness | 20:34 |
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| MeeGoExperts | If ANYONE is in the BIRMINGHAM UK area tomorrow and wants to come along, please do so :-) | 20:34 |
| CosmoHill | meego for brummies | 20:35 |
| MeeGoExperts | I have been trying a fair bit of tweeting for awareness and I hope I have to a certain extent. A lot of new comers do contact me daily :-) | 20:35 |
| MeeGoExperts | :-) @ CosmoHill | 20:35 |
| CosmoHill | you could make a post on the forum about it and put it on the wiki page | 20:35 |
| CosmoHill | I hope it goes better than MeeGo Cambridge | 20:35 |
| MeeGoExperts | I hope so too *Crosses fingers and toes* | 20:36 |
| CosmoHill | brb | 20:36 |
| MeeGoExperts | What happened at Meego Cambridge ? | 20:36 |
| MeeGoExperts | k | 20:36 |
| CosmoHill | gonna watch my mate his a bin with his car | 20:36 |
| CosmoHill | damn he missed | 20:36 |
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| Myrtti | I wouldn't have minded to attend the Cambridge one | 20:38 |
| Myrtti | and it has 5 members on it too, so it could be official as well | 20:38 |
| Myrtti | too bad I'm flying to Finland on Sunday | 20:38 |
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| MeeGoExperts | I need to look at posting this … brb | 20:41 |
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| jacktheripper | Can I somehow mount rootfs either through USB or just normally using http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Using_Rescue_Initrd ? | 20:57 |
| jacktheripper | because it really wouldn't be a 'rescue' kernel if it doesn't have that option :/ | 20:58 |
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| MeeGoExperts | Thread created for a Local Meego Group : http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?p=10838#post10838 | 21:03 |
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| MeeGoExperts | All are welcome :-) | 21:03 |
| MeeGoExperts | Well, Local Birmingham UK Meego | 21:03 |
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| MeeGoExperts | Event submitted :-) | 21:20 |
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| jacktheripper | can anyone tell me exactly what cases the rescue initrd (http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Using_Rescue_Initrd) is intended for ? | 21:21 |
| DawnFoster | MeeGoExperts: and event approved and published :) | 21:22 |
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| MeeGoExperts | BRILLIANT :-) | 21:25 |
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| theplic | hi i cant seem to find libgconf2-dev in the zypper repo | 21:28 |
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| auke | devel packages are named 'devel' | 21:28 |
| theplic | i was trying to build and the AM_GCONF_SOURCE_2 macro not found error crops up in autogen.sh | 21:29 |
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| auke | try GConf-dbus-devel | 21:29 |
| auke | zypper source-install is your friend | 21:29 |
| theplic | auke: what does it do? | 21:30 |
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| auke | install required packages to build source code etc | 21:31 |
| theplic | auke: will it work on git repo sources too? | 21:31 |
| auke | that does not compute | 21:32 |
| erani | good evening all | 21:32 |
| theplic | what kind of source packages are you referring to? | 21:32 |
| auke | I'm not referring to source packages | 21:32 |
| erani | I'm considering buying the N900, but I'm hesitating a bit since I'm unable to find any on-date information considering if the Ovi services, including Music and Syncm do work with the phone? | 21:32 |
| auke | I'm referring to "required packages to build source code" | 21:32 |
| theplic | well zypper source-install says it requires a source package name | 21:32 |
| thiago_home | erani: wrong channel to ask though | 21:33 |
| erani | e.g. Does Ovi Calendar sync with the N900's Cal? | 21:33 |
| erani | oh, well :) indeed, but I wondered if any meego dev's or users happen to own maemo phone ^_^' | 21:33 |
| auke | e.g. if you want to recompile X, that would be the 'source package' that you need to install build dependencies on | 21:33 |
| thiago_home | erani: I do own one | 21:34 |
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| thiago_home | erani: but I don't use Ovi Calendar | 21:34 |
| auke | there's a busy #maemo channel | 21:34 |
| auke | I think | 21:34 |
| * thiago_home syncs only with Exchange | 21:34 | |
| theplic | auke: well im trying to build meego's source. that wont work with source-install i guess | 21:34 |
| auke | zypper won't help you with that anyway | 21:35 |
| theplic | speaking of which i still havent been able to find the meego-panel repo. every meego-panel-xyz repo requires a "meego-panel" package. but no luck. :( | 21:35 |
| theplic | auke: well gconf-dbus-devel did help with the macro problem. so thanks :) | 21:36 |
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| fandeli | when trying to create a netbook liveusb image I'm getting this error: Error: Failed to run mic inside bootstrap environment. Return code: -4 | 22:16 |
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| fandeli | does anybody know what I'm doing wrong or what I'm missing? | 22:17 |
| esmirlin | hello! i'm gonna install meego and ubuntu (i know how to do) but i wanna reserve a partition to use between both OS... the question is... what kind of file system do i need to make it run on ubuntu? | 22:18 |
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| thiago_home | what filesystems does ubuntu read? | 22:18 |
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| tmzt_ | they should support the same | 22:19 |
| tmzt_ | ubuntu might not support btrfs yet though | 22:20 |
| esmirlin | thiago_home: ubuntu reads everything my problem is meego | 22:20 |
| esmirlin | tmzt_: that was for you sorry | 22:20 |
| tmzt_ | I see | 22:20 |
| thiago_home | esmirlin: if ubuntu reads everything, then how can meego be the problem? | 22:20 |
| tmzt_ | why is that an issue? | 22:20 |
| thiago_home | just choose one that meego can read | 22:20 |
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| esmirlin | does meego support ext4? | 22:20 |
| thiago_home | the installer won't let you choose something it doesn't support | 22:21 |
| back-2-95 | I just flashed n900 with sd card. n900 show lots of lines, but MeeGo does not show up... any clues? | 22:21 |
| back-2-95 | so it booted from sd but meego UI does not come alive... | 22:22 |
| thiago_home | back-2-95: which image did you download? | 22:22 |
| Stskeeps | is the back cover on? | 22:22 |
| back-2-95 | yes, back cover is on | 22:22 |
| esmirlin | ok so if i choose: sda1 for ubuntu, sda2 for meego (both ext3) and then another ext3 on sda3 for my files... how can i mount it on meego? | 22:22 |
| thiago_home | esmirlin: with the mount command, or adding to /etc/fstab | 22:23 |
| back-2-95 | i have meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.1.80.0.20101005.1-mmcblk0p.raw | 22:23 |
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| thiago_home | back-2-95: I don't know then | 22:23 |
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| back-2-95 | I also tried meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.1.80.0.20101001.1-mmcblk0p.raw | 22:23 |
| esmirlin | thiago_home: but i don't want it mount permanently... i just wanna mount it whenever i want... i'm not an english speaker so i don't know if you understand me... let me know if don't please | 22:24 |
| thiago_home | esmirlin: I understand you | 22:24 |
| thiago_home | esmirlin: mount it whenever you want it | 22:24 |
| esmirlin | oooki | 22:24 |
| Stskeeps | back-2-95: how did you dd it to the sd card? | 22:24 |
| esmirlin | ok so ill format and install and then ill be back, see you guys! | 22:24 |
| esmirlin | and thanks very much! | 22:25 |
| back-2-95 | sudo dd bs=4096 if=<raw_image> of=/dev/mysdcard | 22:26 |
| Stskeeps | mysdcard being? | 22:26 |
| back-2-95 | sudo dd bs=4096 if=/home/makorh/meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.1.80.0.20101005.1-mmcblk0p.raw of=/dev/mmcblk0 | 22:26 |
| Stskeeps | ok, good | 22:26 |
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| Stskeeps | was anything from /dev/mmcblk0 mounted before? | 22:26 |
| Stskeeps | ie, when you dd'ed | 22:26 |
| back-2-95 | no | 22:26 |
| Stskeeps | please check with 'mount' | 22:27 |
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| back-2-95 | I also had another sd card with image which booted just fine in the morning... only difference is the pc where I am doing this from. | 22:28 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 22:28 |
| back-2-95 | both have ubuntu 10.04 32bit and everything else is the same... | 22:29 |
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| back-2-95 | there was mention on pressing the "u" when flashing and the battery+cover thing. Is there some differences between these 2 methods? It seems that both do the trick of booting from sd... | 22:30 |
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| BManojlovic | good evening, i'm trying to use opensuse smeegol version of meego and i have specific problem that result in this http://picpaste.com/pics/DSC_0005-Is2c2t2b.1286565877.jpg , my .xsession-errors can be found http://pastie.org/1208324 | 22:31 |
| BManojlovic | i can't resize it in any way | 22:31 |
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| Stskeeps | anyone who has an interest in having their own OBS, having vmware or virtualbox installed and who aren't feeling bad about alpha level documentation? | 22:56 |
| Stskeeps | own OBS that can build meego packages, too | 22:57 |
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| auke | BManojlovic: for smeegol issues, please ask the opensuse/smeegol people for help | 23:13 |
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| CosmoHill | auke: do they have a channel? | 23:23 |
| CosmoHill | #smeego | 23:24 |
| CosmoHill | ignore that | 23:24 |
| auke | don't know | 23:24 |
| auke | infobot: smeegol is an opensuse-supported version of the MeeGo Netbook UX. For support for smeegol please go to #opensuse-moblin | 23:26 |
| infobot | auke: okay | 23:26 |
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| CosmoHill | infobot: what is 21 - 4? | 23:27 |
| infobot | I think you lost me on that one, CosmoHill | 23:27 |
| CosmoHill | infobot: what is auke? | 23:27 |
| infobot | I think you lost me on that one, CosmoHill | 23:27 |
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| csdb | Stskeeps: was that a question about who has local OBS repo? | 23:30 |
| BManojlovic | auke: smeegol is meego but ok will not bother people here don't worry... | 23:34 |
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| CosmoHill | BManojlovic: Smeegol is the OpenSUSE implementation of Meego | 23:35 |
| BManojlovic | and there is no connection with meego except code behind it? | 23:37 |
| CosmoHill | I can't tell you as I've not read the Smeegol announcement | 23:38 |
| CosmoHill | since it's there implementation it's best to talk to them first | 23:38 |
| CosmoHill | they may send you back here for all we know | 23:38 |
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| BManojlovic | yes they did :) | 23:38 |
| CosmoHill | ah | 23:39 |
| CosmoHill | in that case, hello :) | 23:39 |
| BManojlovic | hello :) | 23:39 |
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| CosmoHill | hmm, if I understand this correctly Smeegol is basically OpenSUSE with the MeeGo UX on top | 23:41 |
| CosmoHill | plus some addition features | 23:42 |
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| * CosmoHill is downloading Smeegol | 23:44 | |
| BManojlovic | correct | 23:46 |
| CosmoHill | BManojlovic: what graphics card do you have? | 23:47 |
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| BManojlovic | atom ion platform (nvidia something 9400) | 23:49 |
| CosmoHill | 9400 sounds about right | 23:49 |
| BManojlovic | binary driver installed | 23:49 |
| CosmoHill | have you installed any graphics cards | 23:49 |
| CosmoHill | ah yes | 23:49 |
| CosmoHill | *drivers | 23:49 |
| CosmoHill | I have good news and bad news | 23:49 |
| BManojlovic | bad first ;) | 23:49 |
| CosmoHill | the good news is that I have a C2D with Nvidia 9300 graphics | 23:49 |
| CosmoHill | the bad news is that it's 100 miles away with a friend | 23:50 |
| lolloo | what is? | 23:50 |
| BManojlovic | ok that is bad :) | 23:50 |
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| CosmoHill | I'll do some testing of my own on smeegol as there are a few things I want to try out that I know meego can't do | 23:51 |
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| CosmoHill | BManojlovic: you're english right? | 23:52 |
| BManojlovic | CosmoHill: i will be on both channels trying tof figure out how it was supposed to work :) | 23:52 |
| BManojlovic | CosmoHill: nope from Serbia | 23:53 |
| CosmoHill | ah okay | 23:53 |
| CosmoHill | the problem is that that little box in the corner isn't meant to be that little right? | 23:53 |
| BManojlovic | correct | 23:54 |
| BManojlovic | first when i click on some of "tabs" it would open half screen (vertically half of screen ) and show content of it, and immediately move it into that square | 23:55 |
| BManojlovic | err shrink it i mean | 23:55 |
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