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| brenddie | touchpad mouse doesnt work. tried a lilliput touchscreen and it too didnt work | 00:33 |
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| smithna | Anyone know why icons for/on the taskbar would disappear? (IVI) They were there initially when I installed, now they are gone after some upgrades | 02:33 |
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| brenddie | smithna try this: http://meego.com/devices/in-vehicle/in-vehicle-faq#q13 | 02:53 |
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| gary6 | Hey, i just installed meebo, i was wondering what the cli package management system was. | 04:44 |
| berndhs | gary6: yum or zypper, your choice | 04:46 |
| gary6 | cool and what repositories is it based on, and can I add more. | 04:47 |
| gary6 | ok, ^^ just relised that was kinda stupid to ask... | 04:48 |
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| gary6 | awesome, ill have a play around with zypper, and ill be back soon when i break it :) | 04:49 |
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| gary6 | how do you update the repos because my install doesn't seem to be able to locate alot of them? | 05:05 |
| gary6 | is their a online list of the current repos? | 05:06 |
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| DawnFoster | gary6: have you already tried zypper from the command line? | 05:22 |
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| DawnFoster | gary6: details - http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_1.0_Netbook_Updates#Can.27t_See_the_Continue_Button_on_First_Update | 05:23 |
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| priyanka | has anybody tries installing obs-server on fedora m getting the error permissions is needed by obs-server-2.0.6-6.1.i586 , | 09:25 |
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| Sage_ | Does someone know where the 1.1 repos are currently exported? | 09:36 |
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| Sage_ | Now when 1.1 branched from Trunk the locations changed, right? | 09:36 |
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| Koll | hi all | 10:04 |
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| fabo | thiago: connman plugin and ssl issue, both fixed in MeeGo OBS | 10:17 |
| thiago_home | thanks | 10:17 |
| * thiago_home has another idea for the fix | 10:17 | |
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| thiago_home | I'll get the openssl soname during configure | 10:17 |
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| Khertan_ | Morning all | 15:27 |
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| Goodi | afternoon :) | 15:28 |
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| pupnik_ | nice job polishing vectormine look and feel Khertan_ | 15:34 |
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| Khertan_ | pupnik_: thx | 15:35 |
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| Khertan_ | pupnik_: this is the only game installed on my n900 and play on it often ;) | 15:36 |
| pupnik_ | i probably mentioned 'space duel' which can be played 2p coop. right? | 15:36 |
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| Khertan_ | pupnik_: hum ... you have mention something about it ... | 15:37 |
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| Khertan_ | pupnik_: but didn't well remember | 15:37 |
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| Khertan_ | pupnik_: a bit like space war on vectrex ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2mb-ENbxxg | 15:38 |
| Khertan_ | :) | 15:38 |
| pupnik_ | http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=atari+space+duel the most fascinating mode is 2p with both ships joined by a line into a 'space station' - one player accelerating will send the station spinning around its center of gravity | 15:38 |
| Khertan_ | pupnik_: with the star gravity attraction ? | 15:38 |
| pupnik_ | no that's space war | 15:39 |
| pupnik_ | so cooperative mode becomes particularly nasty in a dense screen, as one player dodging an asteroid will whip the other one around | 15:39 |
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| Khertan_ | pupnik_: it s silly ! | 15:42 |
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| pupnik_ | actually me and my best friend got very good at it on the arcade version. one person would take the lead in steering the station and the other one would correct spin | 15:43 |
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| pupnik_ | i think i know how to do the math with just integers, i think | 15:44 |
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| pupnik_ | so you don't think it's cool Khertan_ ? | 15:44 |
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| Khertan_ | pupnik_: yep it s ... | 15:45 |
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| Khertan_ | pupnik_: could be interesting | 15:45 |
| Khertan_ | pupnik_: but i didn't have the time currently to do it | 15:45 |
| Khertan_ | but maybe later :) | 15:45 |
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| Khertan_ | if you want to try vectormine source code are available | 15:45 |
| Khertan_ | i ll be happy to add your mod | 15:46 |
| pupnik_ | ok i'll think about it this weekend with carol | 15:46 |
| pupnik_ | do you have maemo-specific stuff #ifdef'd Khertan_ ? | 15:47 |
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| Khertan_ | nope ... it s pure python | 15:48 |
| Khertan_ | ah hum ... | 15:48 |
| pupnik_ | so no problem running on linux | 15:48 |
| pupnik_ | ? | 15:48 |
| Khertan_ | there is some things that are not really well written | 15:48 |
| pupnik_ | as long as it's understandble | 15:48 |
| Khertan_ | like the reading the accelerometers | 15:48 |
| Khertan_ | pupnik_: yep it s | 15:48 |
| Khertan_ | it s python | 15:48 |
| Khertan_ | so it s always readable | 15:48 |
| Khertan_ | :) | 15:48 |
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| Khertan_ | but normally you can use also left arrow key and right arrow key if you disable accelerometers | 15:49 |
| Khertan_ | but be carreful when adding too much things, pygame on n900 isn't really powerfull | 15:50 |
| Khertan_ | :) | 15:50 |
| Khertan_ | but we will be able to optimize that later | 15:50 |
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| Khertan_ | pupnik_: for information vectormine is a small clone of this game : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKl1ZuiVqMc | 15:52 |
| Khertan_ | :) | 15:52 |
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| Khertan_ | but the start animation is missing | 15:52 |
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| Khertan_ | OHOHOHOHOHO DEAR ALL PYTHON LOVER I VE FINNALY SUCCESSFULLY BUILD PYSIDE ON THE MEEGO OBS ! | 15:53 |
| Khertan_ | youhou ! | 15:53 |
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| luck | \o/ | 15:53 |
| Khertan_ | ok now i need to install meego on my netbook to see if it s work | 15:53 |
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| pupnik_ | are there even *plans* to get meego running in a vm? | 15:54 |
| luck | Khertan, congrats! renato was trying to build it yesterday too | 15:54 |
| Khertan_ | :) i was able to build it with his help | 15:55 |
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| luck | nice! | 15:55 |
| Khertan_ | luck: unfortunatly, it s for meego 1.0.x and qt4.6 | 15:55 |
| w00t_ | pupnik_: do you define qemu as a VM? | 15:55 |
| Khertan_ | as qt4.7 isn't the final release and contain some bugs on the community obs | 15:56 |
| pupnik_ | w00t_: a lot of people would like to run meego apps and sdk on one non-meego machine - for dev and testing | 15:56 |
| pupnik_ | some chat with people in Xen seemed to indicate it might be possible to run meego and debian side-by-side | 15:57 |
| pupnik_ | but there really doesn't seem a clean way to share a gpu between two OS's | 15:58 |
| pupnik_ | or even switch between them | 15:58 |
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| w00t_ | http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_SDK_Building_QEMU_Tools is worth a look | 16:03 |
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| vlj | hi | 16:04 |
| vlj | does meego use upstart or init ? | 16:04 |
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| w00t_ | no upstart | 16:05 |
| vlj | ok | 16:05 |
| vlj | is there any reason for that ? | 16:05 |
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| w00t_ | from what I recall, it uses a heavily customised process of its own, but may switch in the future.. there was a thread on meego-dev about it recentlyish | 16:06 |
| vlj | ok | 16:06 |
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| vlj | is there any release date for Meego 1.1 ? | 16:09 |
| vlj | we're in october now.... :p | 16:09 |
| Stskeeps | yes, go see http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Plans/1.1 | 16:10 |
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| vlj | 21 ? | 16:11 |
| vlj | hm | 16:11 |
| vlj | is it ok for testing now ? | 16:11 |
| vlj | I mean, 1.0.99 | 16:12 |
| CosmoHill | vlj: from what I've been told and read the init is heavily optimised to run multiple things are once | 16:12 |
| CosmoHill | vlj: http://lwn.net/Articles/299483/ | 16:13 |
| Stskeeps | vlj: yes, it's in testing atm | 16:13 |
| Stskeeps | ie, release candidates | 16:13 |
| vlj | ok | 16:14 |
| vlj | seems that 1.1 can be run from xephyr with hardware acceleration | 16:17 |
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| CosmoHill | fyi yum won't be in meego 1.1 | 16:17 |
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| vlj | gma 500 won't be supported out of the box by meego 1.1 I think ? | 16:19 |
| Stskeeps | i don't know, actually | 16:19 |
| vlj | there was a gma 500 enabled version of moblin that was provided before Meego was announced | 16:20 |
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| Stskeeps | i kinda hope there'll be EMGD based on 1.1 as POR | 16:20 |
| vlj | but I don't find a gma 500 enabled version of Meego | 16:20 |
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| vlj | with emgd drivers | 16:20 |
| vlj | I'm a bit lazy, I don't want to build the driver by myself ;) | 16:21 |
| vlj | and emgd is a pain to configure | 16:21 |
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| Stskeeps | who the heck is that ingram guy? | 17:22 |
| GAN900 | Ingram the company, or Ingram somebody's name? | 17:23 |
| Stskeeps | meego-community@ | 17:24 |
| Stskeeps | name | 17:24 |
| DawnFoster | oh, the computer scientist :) | 17:25 |
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| DawnFoster | I have a computer science degree - should I start referring to myself as Dawn Foster Computer Scientist? | 17:25 |
| Stskeeps | my msn says C. Munk, BSc. ;) | 17:26 |
| Stskeeps | though i suppose I'm msc now.. | 17:26 |
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| Stskeeps | i have difficulties figuring out if it's an AI, alien, human or extremely screwed up human.. | 17:27 |
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| user__ | ola | 17:28 |
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| DawnFoster | Stskeeps: yeah, I'm with you on that question | 17:31 |
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| GAN900 | Bored human. | 17:33 |
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| sid3windr | http://www.georgeingram.net/ - watch out if you're epilleptic :p | 17:41 |
| sid3windr | (ie don't try to maximize the window) | 17:42 |
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| dillon | http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/MSMQSD ...has anyone considered writing a wrapper around glibc that provides the same symbols android's libc does? | 19:05 |
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| thiago | our armv7 builds are -mfloat-abi=hard, right? | 19:09 |
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| Stskeeps | no | 19:10 |
| Stskeeps | softftp | 19:10 |
| Stskeeps | i tried raising the issue some months back but noone seemed to react | 19:10 |
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| thiago | that explains why this doesn't compile | 19:12 |
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| Stskeeps | which? | 19:12 |
| thiago | Qt | 19:12 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 19:12 |
| Stskeeps | http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-dev/2010-August/004524.html | 19:12 |
| thiago | /home/tmacieir/.madde/arm-2010q1/bin/../lib/gcc/arm-none-linux-gnueabi/4.4.1/../../../../arm-none-linux-gnueabi/bin/ld: error: dbus.o uses VFP register arguments, dbus does not | 19:12 |
| thiago | do you know how to decode the eabi attributes from a binary? | 19:12 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 19:12 |
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| Stskeeps | objdump? not sure | 19:13 |
| Stskeeps | readelf | 19:13 |
| thiago | thanks | 19:13 |
| thiago | readelf -A | 19:13 |
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| thiago | libc has: Tag_ABI_HardFP_use: SP and DP | 19:15 |
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| thiago | my .o has: | 19:15 |
| thiago | Tag_ABI_HardFP_use: SP and DP | 19:15 |
| thiago | Tag_ABI_VFP_args: VFP registers | 19:15 |
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| thiago | and switching back to Harmattan too then | 19:17 |
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| smooph | hey is there something like a release date for meego to be usable ... meaning with all the standards usable ... not the extra apps | 19:46 |
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| diegobz | hey... any Qt Linguist (.ts) expert around? | 19:55 |
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| theplic | i can speak jibberish | 19:57 |
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| CosmoHill | theplic: so can must of the staff at PC world | 19:59 |
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| theplic | wee | 19:59 |
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| CosmoHill | it's cheaper than actually teaching them about computers | 19:59 |
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| CosmoHill | the computer store? | 19:59 |
| theplic | wut? i dont live here | 19:59 |
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| sinny | hi! | 21:11 |
| auke | hello | 21:11 |
| sinny | I have just started using meego-sdk in my laptop | 21:12 |
| sinny | but in gui i am not able to do any thing :( | 21:12 |
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| sinny | i tried to google it but didn't get anything, if anybody have some idea then please help :) | 21:14 |
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| dillon | 'not able to do any thing' is to say the least vague | 21:19 |
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| sinnykumari | I was trying to enable my "broadcom" wifi in meego from http://slaine.org/_slaine/Meego_1.0_Wifi.html | 21:35 |
| sinnykumari | it says that : | 21:35 |
| sinnykumari | # | 21:35 |
| sinnykumari | 1)Activate the MeeGo toolbar and select the applications icon | 21:35 |
| sinnykumari | # | 21:35 |
| sinnykumari | 2)Choose the Accessories section and select Terminal (or type terminal in the search box) | 21:35 |
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| sinnykumari | but i doesn't get search option in it | 21:36 |
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| dillon | and no Terminal shows up in Accessories? | 21:43 |
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| foxfell_ | maybe write install script for n900 users? | 21:44 |
| foxfell_ | and put them to maemo repository | 21:45 |
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| sinnykumari | no, if i click on any icon like "add-up" then i only get | 21:47 |
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| sinnykumari | this is a placeholder for the Meego Add-Up Application | 21:48 |
| lcuk | sinnykumari, thats exactly what it means, the app is in need of fleshing out | 21:49 |
| lcuk | patches welcome :P | 21:49 |
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| dillon | I'd have thought there should be a terminal though... | 21:51 |
| sinnykumari | what should I do then? | 21:51 |
| dillon | (those instructions say it exists) | 21:51 |
| dillon | you could also, presumably, ssh into your (ethernet-connected) laptop and just do it from there, all it's asking for is a command line | 21:52 |
| sinnykumari | no when on my system terminal I do "startmeego" , then get one window and in it bottom middle i get 5 menu | 21:52 |
| dillon | if you have a system terminal, and assuming you've done 'startmeego &' so it's still there, just do the things it says after telling you to start the terminal app | 21:53 |
| sinnykumari | sorry! but i am not getting the last line meaning | 21:55 |
| sinnykumari | ' just do the things it says after telling you to start the terminal app' | 21:56 |
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| dillon | you have a shell prompt, right? where you type in 'startmeego' to make the UI go | 22:04 |
| dillon | instead of doing that, type in the things in that webpage that it wanted you to type in the Terminal | 22:04 |
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| sinnykumari | yes i did it, i typed in it "sudo yum install rpmdevtools" | 22:07 |
| sinnykumari | but i got error "Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: meego-sdk. Please verify its path and try again" | 22:07 |
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| dillon | hmmm, I had issues with meego-sdk for some reason when I updated a while back | 22:12 |
| dillon | I don't know how to fix that :) | 22:12 |
| sinny | dillon: okey! thanks for helping :) | 22:13 |
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| __key__ | interesting | 22:19 |
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| __key__ | so, meego kernel can handle SMP ? | 22:20 |
| wmarone | it's linux 2.6.35, I certainly hope so | 22:20 |
| __key__ | lol | 22:20 |
| __key__ | ok, ic ... | 22:20 |
| __key__ | so, could also run as makeshift firewall ? | 22:20 |
| wmarone | sure, if you wanted it to | 22:21 |
| __key__ | nice | 22:21 |
| wmarone | but I'm sure there are distros better suited to that task | 22:21 |
| __key__ | hrmm.... | 22:21 |
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| __key__ | maybe it can run apache+postgre server ? | 22:21 |
| wmarone | sure, if you wanted it to | 22:21 |
| __key__ | meego rules! | 22:21 |
| wmarone | but again... | 22:21 |
| __key__ | another distro | 22:21 |
| __key__ | more suited | 22:21 |
| wmarone | indeed | 22:22 |
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| wmarone | meego is very focused on mobile applications | 22:22 |
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| __key__ | yessir | 22:22 |
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| __key__ | so, mobile apache+mysql+python app server | 22:22 |
| wmarone | sure | 22:22 |
| __key__ | nice | 22:23 |
| __key__ | apache inside my wrist watch ?" | 22:23 |
| mosty | __key__, why do you want to use meego for this? | 22:23 |
| __key__ | well, just looking at options | 22:23 |
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| __key__ | so | 22:24 |
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| __key__ | meego, you can run it on a 1.44 floppy ? | 22:24 |
| VLJ | hi | 22:25 |
| __key__ | hi | 22:25 |
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| mosty | meh, trolls suck these days | 22:25 |
| __key__ | mosty, u ever run Meego via 1.44 floppy ? | 22:26 |
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| __key__ | it is very cruicial for me to run Meego on floppy | 22:26 |
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| __key__ | hi | 22:26 |
| Surfa | yeah right | 22:26 |
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| __key__ | ? | 22:26 |
| Surfa | havent seen floppy drive in god knows how many years now | 22:26 |
| lcuk | __key__, Meego only supports 5 1/4inch floppies | 22:26 |
| mosty | __key__, yeah but only on my gameboy | 22:26 |
| lcuk | sorry | 22:27 |
| lcuk | the 3.5 inch ones are too small | 22:27 |
| __key__ | ? | 22:27 |
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| lcuk | if you try and write Meego onto a small floppy disk, you only get "Mee" | 22:27 |
| lcuk | you need 5 inches at least to fit the whole of "Meego" on it | 22:28 |
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| __key__ | man | 22:28 |
| __key__ | that blows | 22:29 |
| __key__ | Meego is lame | 22:29 |
| Stskeeps | __key__: are you trolling again? | 22:29 |
| RST38h | lcuk: more like you only get 'e' | 22:29 |
| lcuk | I am sure you will find a distro with a small enough name to fit in your requirements | 22:29 |
| __key__ | yessir | 22:29 |
| __key__ | hrmm | 22:30 |
| __key__ | bye! | 22:30 |
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| Stskeeps | __key__: please leave or resort to constructive conversation then | 22:30 |
| CosmoHill | why is he not banned? | 22:30 |
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| dillon | :psyduck: gotta love trolls | 22:45 |
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| auke | I can't figure out how to ban with pidgin | 22:48 |
| auke | lol | 22:48 |
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| seiflotfy | hey guys | 22:51 |
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| seiflotfy | is there a way to install meego natively on the n900? | 22:51 |
| auke | yes | 22:51 |
| auke | there's instructions on the wiki | 22:51 |
| ljp | natively? as in not on an sd card? | 22:52 |
| auke | no, those instructions are for installing on a SD card | 22:52 |
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| auke | hope I got that right | 22:54 |
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| seiflotfy | auke, yeah but is there a way to install on the emmc | 22:55 |
| seiflotfy | ? | 22:55 |
| auke | good question, I haven't looked that deeply at the flasher software | 22:55 |
| seiflotfy | auke, it would be awesome | 22:55 |
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| auke | well try reading the flasher documentation yourself | 22:56 |
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| seiflotfy | i couldnt find any class 2 microsd cards in my area | 22:56 |
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| auke | online? | 22:57 |
| seiflotfy | i am leaving in 2 days | 22:57 |
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| CosmoHill | yay auke | 23:03 |
| lbt | OK build.obs.com and api.obs.com is used for the core OBS ... what should the community be called? I like : build.public.meego.com api.public.meego.com ? | 23:06 |
| Stskeeps | obs.com? | 23:06 |
| lbt | d'oh | 23:06 |
| lbt | take 2 : OK build.meego.com and api.meego.com is used for the core OBS ... what should the community be called? I like : build.public.meego.com api.public.meego.com ? | 23:06 |
| CosmoHill | Open Book System? | 23:06 |
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| CosmoHill | ah I see | 23:07 |
| auke | OpenSuSE Build System | 23:07 |
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| * lbt issues a recall for his earlier irc message | 23:07 | |
| Stskeeps | lbt: public has a wrong taste.. but bob is already taken | 23:07 |
| CosmoHill | auke: obs.com is the book one | 23:07 |
| CosmoHill | build.dev.meego.com ? | 23:07 |
| lbt | build.community.meego.com is too damned long | 23:07 |
| auke | CosmoHill: context | 23:07 |
| lbt | CosmoHill: not bad | 23:07 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i kinda liked cbuild and capi and crepo | 23:07 |
| CosmoHill | you can't have build.com.meego.com as that;s just weird | 23:08 |
| lbt | <sigh> Danes have no taste | 23:08 |
| Stskeeps | oi | 23:08 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 23:08 |
| CosmoHill | we have two Danish exchange students :) | 23:08 |
| auke | can't blame them, their country is gray and dull | 23:08 |
| * auke hides | 23:08 | |
| lbt | like "cbuild".... | 23:08 |
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| lbt | almost British in it's greyness ;) | 23:09 |
| auke | cobs.meego.com | 23:09 |
| auke | I like that | 23:09 |
| auke | build.cobs.meego.com, api.cobs.meego.com | 23:09 |
| lbt | ok... yes | 23:09 |
| auke | it's all a bunch of cobs | 23:09 |
| CosmoHill | hmm, not bad | 23:09 |
| Stskeeps | how about obs.meego.com to make confusion total? | 23:09 |
| auke | Stskeeps: too confusing | 23:10 |
| Stskeeps | well | 23:10 |
| Stskeeps | 'build.meego.com' and 'build.for.meego.com' ;) | 23:10 |
| lbt | it's going to stick with us... and we need clarity and brevity (and style) | 23:10 |
| CosmoHill | obs sounds more official instead of communal | 23:10 |
| lbt | clever | 23:10 |
| lbt | api.for.meego.com download.for.meego.com... | 23:11 |
| Stskeeps | api.build.for.meego.com | 23:11 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 23:11 |
| berndhs | Stskeeps: build.meego.com | 23:11 |
| * lbt figures a bikeshed on a friday night... | 23:11 | |
| lbt | berndhs: that's taken by the core obs | 23:11 |
| auke | build.me.for.meego.com | 23:11 |
| CosmoHill | build.MeFor.Meego.com | 23:12 |
| berndhs | lbt: we'll send our lawers and take it from them :) | 23:12 |
| auke | build.we.meego.com? | 23:12 |
| lbt | build.bob.meego.com | 23:13 |
| berndhs | build.open.meego.com | 23:13 |
| * auke just watched the sintel movie | 23:13 | |
| lbt | berndhs: they're a bit touchy about implying the core is closed | 23:13 |
| CosmoHill | could we shorten "public" to "pub" or is that just lazy? | 23:13 |
| berndhs | it is :) | 23:13 |
| lbt | even though, you know... it is | 23:13 |
| berndhs | pub is good | 23:13 |
| CosmoHill | s/touchy/touché/ | 23:13 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: farm.meego.com? | 23:14 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 23:14 |
| Stskeeps | (build farm..) | 23:14 |
| CosmoHill | would that make us cattle? | 23:14 |
| Stskeeps | we're all sheep | 23:14 |
| Stskeeps | :p | 23:14 |
| CosmoHill | I know you say moo and all... | 23:14 |
| berndhs | i like build.pub.meego.com | 23:14 |
| CosmoHill | out of interest, was this discussion meant to take place in this week's cancelled TSG meeting? | 23:15 |
| lbt | CosmoHill: far too relevant ;) | 23:16 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: we can always go for the name.. cas.meego.com | 23:16 |
| lbt | we currently have cbuild.meego.com and capi and cdownload.... am I alone in not liking them? | 23:16 |
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| CosmoHill | i don't like them | 23:16 |
| CosmoHill | they're a typo away from being the official ones | 23:16 |
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| lbt | so we have *.cobs.m.c *.for.m.c *.dev.m.c *.pub.m.c | 23:17 |
| berndhs | nicer to have a common qualifier in the name, build.something.meego.com, download.something.... | 23:17 |
| lbt | I think so too berndhs | 23:17 |
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| Stskeeps | build.apps.for.meego.com? ;p | 23:18 |
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| Stskeeps | download.apps.for.meego.com.. | 23:18 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: have you bought shares in Cherry ? | 23:18 |
| CosmoHill | so far we have: dev, pub, public, farm, for, open, cobs and apps; | 23:18 |
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| Stskeeps | bbl sleep | 23:19 |
| lbt | I can tell you need it ;) | 23:19 |
| berndhs | what's "open" in finnish ? | 23:19 |
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| CosmoHill | I'm sure my friend said bbl to me sometime. I think it was march... | 23:19 |
| Stskeeps | we're not going to use 'ovi', at least.. | 23:19 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 23:19 |
| * lbt looks for Aard... | 23:19 | |
| lbt | or ahma... | 23:20 |
| CosmoHill | why don't we take all the ones that we've come up with and like and then put them to a vote on the forum? | 23:20 |
| lbt | OK | 23:20 |
| berndhs | google translate says "auki" is "open" | 23:21 |
| w00t_ | Stskeeps: why not? :-) | 23:21 |
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| auke | lol | 23:21 |
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| CosmoHill | that's a point berndhs, does the word need to be english? | 23:24 |
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| CosmoHill | you can't have "us" as people would mistake it for an American mirror | 23:25 |
| thiago_home | auki / kiini | 23:25 |
| thiago_home | says so on the label | 23:25 |
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| CosmoHill | shall I add Auki to the list? | 23:27 |
| CosmoHill | also what language is it? | 23:27 |
| thiago_home | Finnish | 23:27 |
| lbt | CosmoHill: I'm doing a post | 23:27 |
| CosmoHill | cool | 23:28 |
| thiago_home | the other label (on the heater) says "ei saa peittää" | 23:28 |
| seiflotfy | is installing meego over chroot slower than a mmc | 23:28 |
| berndhs | no funky characters in the url :) | 23:28 |
| CosmoHill | you just destroyed all hopes of me trying to learn Finnish | 23:29 |
| CosmoHill | lbt: how many ideas do you have? I count 8 | 23:29 |
| lbt | shall I paste them? | 23:29 |
| CosmoHill | yes please | 23:30 |
| lbt | *.dev.meego.com Yep... targets developers | 23:30 |
| lbt | *.pub.meego.com Short. Clear | 23:30 |
| thiago_home | berndhs: why not? they work fine :-) | 23:30 |
| lbt | *.public.meego.com Slightly longer. Clear. | 23:30 |
| lbt | *.farm.meego.com Amusing (api.farm.meego.com?) | 23:30 |
| lbt | *.cobs.meego.com Community OBS ... makes sense | 23:30 |
| lbt | *.for.meego.com Fun... why not :) | 23:30 |
| lbt | *.apps.meego.com The primary focus is apps... but respins happen here too | 23:30 |
| lbt | *.auki.meego.com Open (in Finnish) | 23:30 |
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| CosmoHill | yes I have them all | 23:30 |
| GAN900 | All of the other urls are focusing on what happens at them. | 23:30 |
| CosmoHill | thiago_home: yes but nobody else can find them on the keyboard | 23:31 |
| GAN900 | Needs to be verbose enough that it's obvious at first glance what's going on there. | 23:31 |
| GAN900 | The fact that we have non-public build services on meego.com seems to be the root of the problem. :rolleyes: | 23:32 |
| thiago_home | "ei saa peittää" = "do not cover" | 23:33 |
| CosmoHill | I'm assuming those who use the public build service well and gain trust / reputation would gain access to the closed build service at some point? | 23:33 |
| lbt | GAN900: yup... build.core.meego.com would have been good | 23:33 |
| lbt | funny really | 23:33 |
| GAN900 | Hilarious. | 23:33 |
| lbt | years ago yahoo.com gave the tld email accounts to customer ... customer@yahoo.com BT gave it to employees employee@bt.com .... | 23:34 |
| lbt | just a state of mind.... open or closed | 23:34 |
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| CosmoHill | we have staff at the TLD and students at a sub-domain | 23:35 |
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| DawnFoster | Stskeeps: you still around? | 23:39 |
| CosmoHill | he went to bed 20 mins ago | 23:40 |
| DawnFoster | no worries - I'll ping him again tomorrow :) | 23:40 |
| DawnFoster | CosmoHill: thanks for keeping tabs :) | 23:40 |
| lbt | post #3 ..... http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?p=10473#post10473 | 23:40 |
| lbt | I'm getting the hang of these forum thingies..... if only we had email integration ;) | 23:41 |
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| CosmoHill | lbt: where's the poll? | 23:41 |
| lbt | lets see if there are suggestions from the forum | 23:41 |
| CosmoHill | ah okay | 23:41 |
| * thiago_home likes auki.meego.com | 23:42 | |
| goddess | yer | 23:42 |
| lbt | thiago_home: nice isn't it | 23:42 |
| CosmoHill | the bottom one looks like it's swearing :/ | 23:42 |
| lbt | heh | 23:42 |
| GAN900 | It tells you exactly shit about what's behind it, though. | 23:42 |
| berndhs | CosmoHill: so you like it then ? | 23:42 |
| lbt | GAN900: build.auki.meego.com ? | 23:43 |
| lbt | not a build system? | 23:43 |
| lbt | I think it's pretty obvious :) | 23:43 |
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| CosmoHill | lbt: is it possible to have the top two URLs? | 23:43 |
| lbt | build.httpbasedserverchrootfarm.meego.com | 23:43 |
| GAN900 | Ah, prepending build to all of them. | 23:43 |
| GAN900 | Right | 23:43 |
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| CosmoHill | eg build.auki.meego.com and build.open.meego.com point to the same place | 23:43 |
| GAN900 | That's so unclean. :/ | 23:43 |
| GAN900 | obs.meego.com? :D | 23:44 |
| lbt | GAN900: but there are 3 discrete services behind it build/api/download | 23:44 |
| GAN900 | Is there no technical solution to making build.meego.com suitable for both? | 23:44 |
| GAN900 | Ah | 23:45 |
| lbt | CosmoHill: yes... but I doubt it would be welcom | 23:45 |
| lbt | e | 23:45 |
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| lbt | GAN900: not that I can think of | 23:45 |
| lbt | there are security issues too | 23:45 |
| lbt | the core build system is partitioned | 23:46 |
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| CosmoHill | isn't the chrome image build on the closed build service? | 23:46 |
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| lbt | I don't think closed is a good description .... it's as open as the debian build service | 23:47 |
| lbt | only people with commit rights get access | 23:47 |
| lbt | which is SOP in the oss world | 23:47 |
| thiago_home | "ovi auki" means "open door" | 23:47 |
| lbt | which bit is the door | 23:48 |
| CosmoHill | so the ovi store is really just a shop for doors? | 23:48 |
| thiago_home | lbt: ovi | 23:48 |
| thiago_home | CosmoHill: yes | 23:48 |
| lbt | just checking | 23:48 |
| CosmoHill | lbt: you making sure you didn't suggest build.door.meego.com? | 23:48 |
| lbt | what's finnish for revolving ? | 23:48 |
| ColKilkenny | kind of. "avoin ovi" would be more appropriate for "open door" | 23:48 |
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| thiago_home | CosmoHill: "auki" is an adjective, isn't it? | 23:49 |
| ColKilkenny | if you shout "ovi auki" then it's more like a command "open the door!" | 23:50 |
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| thiago_home | hmm | 23:50 |
| ColKilkenny | or something, finnish is a bit difficult language to translate :) | 23:50 |
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| CosmoHill | shout "open the revolving door". that will confuse them | 23:51 |
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| thiago_home | "aava" also relates to open, doesn't it? | 23:52 |
| thiago_home | open, vast | 23:52 |
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| ColKilkenny | yeah, well it's not very common word but it's used when describing the sea for an example | 23:53 |
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| ColKilkenny | when there's no shores in sight then it's "aava" | 23:53 |
| CosmoHill | aava sounds like a good word for when you're stuck with a load of As in scrabble | 23:54 |
| thiago_home | there's also avaa | 23:54 |
| thiago_home | which also means open | 23:54 |
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| ColKilkenny | yeah, that the verb | 23:54 |
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| * thiago_home thought that "auki" meant "on" | 23:56 | |
| thiago_home | the tap says "auki / on" and "kiini / off" | 23:56 |
| CosmoHill | DawnFoster: tell me you're seeing this too; two Finnish guys confusing themselves with their own language? | 23:58 |
| DawnFoster | CosmoHill: ha! | 23:58 |
| dillon | I assumed they were swedish speakers ;) | 23:59 |
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