IRC log of #meego for Tuesday, 2010-09-28

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aukeStskeeps: do you remember what the screen size/xrandr output on n900 is again?00:04
aukenvm found it00:05
CosmoHillwhat was it?00:06
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auke800x48000:06
CosmoHillnot bad00:06
CosmoHillwhat's american tv, 600x480?00:06
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jausmusI think 640'ish, for SD00:07
auke640x480i00:07
CosmoHill640 for regular and 854 for widescreen00:07
aukethat's what comes out of my video grabber :)00:07
jausmus1920 for widescreen ;)00:08
aukefor OTA SD content00:08
aukeOTA HD content is mixed 1080i/720p00:08
CosmoHillso I could almost replace my TV with a n90000:08
aukeI wonder if you can plug in a USB OTA DVB-T ATSC tuner and watch tv00:08
aukeon n90000:08
CosmoHill(well that's a lie since we use 576i over here)00:08
aukeor equivalent for europe00:08
aukePAL has a higher resolution at lower framerate == same factual data density00:09
aukePAL = 25fps, NTSC = 29.97fps00:09
CosmoHillinteresting00:09
aukeHD is 60fps for 1080i00:09
aukeor 30fps for 720p/1080p00:09
CosmoHill1080p is 24, 30 or 6000:10
aukeyes00:10
auke24 for pal00:10
CosmoHillit's something stupid like 24.900:10
aukeyes00:11
aukesame with ntsc00:11
auke29.97 (who came up with that?)00:11
CosmoHill"30's a nice round number....to round..."00:12
CosmoHillwhilst on the topic of resolutions, does an xbox 360 support 1680x1050 via vga?00:13
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aukeyou mean, on a d-sub cable?00:13
CosmoHillyes00:13
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aukeI'm not sure if the chip does, but that resolution is within the limits of what should be possible00:14
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CosmoHillnow I need to get me a vga cable...and an xbox00:14
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GAN900CosmoHill, yes.00:31
GAN900CosmoHill, at least as far as I can remember.00:31
GAN9001440x900, too, I think.00:31
CosmoHillI've had a 360 controller for years so I figured at some point I should get the rest00:32
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GAN900You're done for now. :P00:33
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__key__what exactly is meego ?00:39
__key__i mean, is it an OS for my iphone 4 ?00:39
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CosmoHilldo you know what the meego website is?00:40
__key__CosmoHill, no00:40
CosmoHillwhere did you read of the channel?00:40
__key__FreeNode00:40
CosmoHillbullshit00:40
__key__?00:40
__key__from /list00:40
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CosmoHillthere are 1000s of channels on here so I dounbt that you'll stubble across one00:40
__key__yours is big00:41
__key__a very big channel you have here00:41
CosmoHillwww.meego.com00:41
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__key__ahh, that is, your website ?00:41
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CosmoHillit's meego's website00:41
__key__this, meego, can i run it on my iPad ?00:41
CosmoHillmaybe in the future if apple allow third party OSes on it00:42
aukeask apple :)00:42
__key__apple's lame huh00:42
__key__what about running a small cluster with meego boxes ?00:42
__key__like a beowolf cluster00:42
CosmoHillread the website first00:42
__key__ok, so first read the website00:43
__key__then i can come back to the channel?00:43
csdb__key__: great idea. Let us know how it goes00:43
__key__ok, will do!00:43
csdbafter you have the beowolf cluster? sure00:43
__key__hrmm00:44
__key__the site's down ?00:44
__key__i get error 40400:44
CosmoHillhttp://meego.com/00:45
CosmoHillworks for me00:45
__key__ahh00:45
__key__nginx, nice00:45
__key__i was trying, http://meego.com/cluster00:45
CosmoHillokay00:45
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CosmoHillkeep reading the website and you'll find out that meego is not for clusters00:46
__key__alright then, will ready the site and get back to u. later!00:46
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CosmoHilltroll?00:46
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aukeclose00:47
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aukeI don't see why you couldn't run meego on a cluster00:51
aukebut, anyone asking about it should be ignored. If you want to run a cluster you better know how to google :)00:51
CosmoHillI actually used meego as a host system to make LFS00:52
aukewell, you can use any OS that has a decent compiler chain for that00:52
CosmoHillknoppix was being annoying00:53
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TSCHAKeee2what is the best way to debug when mic craps out with "error: not an rpm file" ?01:55
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CosmoHillcyas03:07
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TSCHAKeee2is there a kickstart for ivi with emgd?03:14
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vnepoguys anyone check out the new meego ux video...meego running on TI OMAP..its very fast and smooth check it out in youtube03:33
vnepoyoutube.com/watch?v=S20k1mvL8d003:34
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__key__wh00p03:45
__key__checked out the website earlier03:45
__key__i see you guys are gonna run meego in cars03:45
__key__?03:45
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__key__wh00p03:48
* __key__ waits03:48
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__key__so, meego is in beta ?04:50
__key__<ding>04:50
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TSCHAKeee2damn05:13
TSCHAKeee2i upgraded to the latest MIC, and now I get: failed to run mic inside bootstrap environment, error code -405:14
TSCHAKeee2well fuck a dickety duck05:15
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flavioferreiraHow i put meego on n900?07:14
flavioferreirai used this link : http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/NAND07:15
wmaroneSee if this helps: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=75707:15
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flavioferreirabut i dont have a sd card here07:16
flavioferreirai need use only usb07:16
johnxyou need an sd card07:17
flavioferreirais possible?07:17
wmaronesd card is required for booting meego at this time07:17
flavioferreiraThe phone works in meego on n900?07:18
johnxin a very basic way07:18
johnxit's not usable day-to-day07:18
flavioferreiracan i do a phone call ?07:18
johnxI believe so07:19
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flavioferreiraok ok07:19
flavioferreirai will search a sd card in my car07:19
flavioferreirathankss07:20
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KhertanHello all !08:57
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peb_HI folks ..10:06
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johnxhello peb_10:10
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JaffaMorning, all11:28
djszapimorning11:29
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lbthey Jaffa11:32
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MyrttiI wish my brain would finally start for today11:38
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djszapiMyrtti: have a kickoff then :)11:40
Myrttidjszapi: coffee seems to do absolutely nothing11:43
djszapi:P11:44
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Tumi_Myrtti: go running couple of times around the office, that will do the trick!12:05
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MyrttiTumi_: ... what office?12:11
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Tumi_Myrtti: does not really matter. Pick the closest one =)12:13
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Myrttiawww, there's no office in 10miles radius...12:15
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Tumi_then I guess one round is enough ;)12:17
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peb_Myrtti ... what about a round around the house?12:19
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MyrttiI'm not going out there to tresspass on other peoples gardens...12:21
peb_Myrtti, I see it's getting difficult. Let's go back to coffee: How about an increased dose of that drug?12:22
MyrttiGOOD IDEA!12:22
Myrttiit's morning still, so I'm allowed :-P12:22
peb_Myrtti, French Press or an automatic coffee maker?12:22
MyrttiBialetti Moka Express with 100% Columbian espresso roast/grind (brought from Columbia by BF)12:23
Myrttiautomatic drip machines are horrid12:24
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peb_Just dared to asked ... and to estimated if and how successfull the treatment can be.12:27
dm8tbrmokka express <312:27
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Myrttiok, now I've snorted my coffee too.12:37
Myrttihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOqx7HCwZI812:37
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peb_Myrtti, any effect yet?12:46
Myrttinot considerably - but I'm a bit strange - not so long ago I fell asleep happily an hour after having a whole moka pot...12:46
Myrttioh well, I guess I'll just have to plough through the day... again12:47
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bergienice, Helsinki MeeGo Network is now in meetup.com: http://www.meetup.com/Helsinki-MeeGo-Network/14:16
djszapi gooood !14:17
djszapiwill the next meeting be held at Symbio ?14:17
djszapi(itamerenkatu)14:18
bergiethat was the initial idea... I'll try to get it confirmed on Friday14:18
djszapiok, it is inplace for me :P14:18
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Myrttion our series of "Has Myrtti missed a memo or something": Why isn't the Birmingham MeeGo Experts meetup a Local MeeGo Network?14:23
Myrttibergie: :thumbsup:14:23
StskeepsMyrtti: they didn't get the memo, maybe14:24
sivumyrtti forgot to knit me something...14:24
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Myrttisivu: the mittens are still halfway done in my trunk and your address on my fridge door14:24
sivuaww14:24
sivubtw, moved to a new address since march 201014:25
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Myrttihehe14:25
Myrttigood to know14:25
Myrttiif I ever get the mittens done, I'll ask for an update :-D14:25
sivuok. i'll expect somewhere around 2012.. :)14:26
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djszapisivu :)14:32
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andre__sigh. Why oh why do some guys attach word documents to bug reports in bugs.meego.com that just contain two lines of text that are the key entities to query for and of course are not part of the bug report text so they cannot be searched for (to avoid dups)?14:39
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w00t_andre__: smack them14:39
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andre__w00t_, I do, I do... I just have the very bad idea that this might be something that their managers told them :-/14:39
Stskeepsbug example?14:40
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andre__Stskeeps: there are billions of. 7349, 7355, 7353, 7350, 7351, ....14:41
andre__I try to explain why it's bad. Hopefully they understand.14:41
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Sage_/tmp/BUG_13641_Trans2.docx could not be saved, because you cannot change the contents of that folder.14:44
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Sage_I can't even open the .docx without saving it to specific folder ;)14:44
andre__Sage_, awesome, right? Same here, with .doc it works.14:44
Sage_yes with .doc it work14:44
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Sage_Well, my first question is why using .docx in the first place to _MeeGo_ bugzilla. Can meego even open .docx? :)14:45
andre__Sage: I wonder if it's a shared-mime-info issue on this machine, or a general issue. Also Fedora13?14:46
Sage_f13 yes14:46
andre__so, bug report, you or me? ;-)14:46
Sage_I'll give this one to you ;)14:46
andre__darrn! :-P14:46
stephgseems to me andre__ volunteered ;)14:46
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vilvoqa-tools weekly at #meego-meeting in 5 minutes, welcome14:55
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daisy21Could anyone tell me if i can use my meego repos in Moblin 2.114:57
daisy21?14:58
Stskeepsprobably not possible14:58
daisy21It looks like Moblin repos are being stopped14:58
daisy21Can't yum install anything14:58
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mairasfinally got an account to MeeGo OBS. now, is there a way to set my real name and change the password there?15:28
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Stskeepsosc meta user -e15:29
mairasyay15:29
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CosmoHillmairas: congrats15:29
mairasCosmoHill, that was an uphill battle ;-)15:29
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CosmoHillI ride up some place called "hill view road" so I'm used to it :p15:29
mairashaha15:30
CosmoHillthe top of the road is a little higher than the university15:30
CosmoHillthe bottom of it is a little lower than it15:30
slaineDoes it have a view of the hill ?>15:30
CosmoHillyou'd think so but no15:31
slaineThere's a road near me called Fernview court. It's not a court, there's no ferns to view15:32
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lcukCosmoHill, slaine - theres a place in America called Mianus but ..15:47
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CosmoHillThere's a place in american called Hell15:48
lcukmost of the Nokians around here work in Hel!15:49
* CosmoHill watches Hercules in HD15:50
adeussome of the Nokians here live in Nokia!15:50
dm8tbrthere is a town in Norway called Hell15:50
stephgI have been there15:50
slainelcuk, That particular place name is a common favorite around the office.15:50
stephgis near trondheim?15:50
slaineit never gets old15:50
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dm8tbrstephg: I keep forgetting, but some radio amateurs I know operated from that town. The operating mode was Hell(schreiber)15:51
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stephgheh15:52
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andrewzrohello16:23
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andrewzrocan anybody tell me if he trie to build chromium for ARM in MEeGo 1.0 or later?16:24
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andrewzroanybody?16:30
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djszapiwhy do you ask it ? Do you have any issue ?16:34
Stskeepsandrewzro: i think we tried but it failed to compile16:35
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andrewzroyes, it's failing for me to16:37
andrewzroI tried to add some options to gyp_chromium as I found on google:16:38
andrewzro%ifarch %{arm}16:38
andrewzro<------><------>      -D target_arch=arm \16:38
andrewzro<------><------>      -D armv7=1 \16:38
andrewzro<------><------>      -D disable_nacl=1 \16:38
andrewzro<------><------>      -D linux_use_tcmalloc=0 \16:38
andrewzro%endif16:38
andrewzrobut it still tried to build nacl and fail16:38
Stskeepsnot sure, got a build log?16:38
andrewzroyes, how do I upload it16:38
andrewzro?16:38
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Stskeepspastie.org16:39
Stskeepscopy it in there and paste the url here16:39
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andrewzrohere: http://pastie.org/118648516:42
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Stskeepswell, just wanted to congratulate you on having an actual working OBS meego ARM setup :)16:44
andrewzro:) thanks16:44
Stskeepswe are a bunch of ARM people sitting in #meego-arm too16:45
TSCHAKeee2:D16:45
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thiagoStskeeps: have you seen Qt on arm?16:59
Stskeepsthiago: hmm?17:00
Stskeeps(unsure what you mean, obviously i've seen qt on arm as i work on n900 adaptation of meego..)17:00
thiagoStskeeps: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/427817:01
Stskeepsah17:01
Stskeepsi should have a meego on arm instead..17:01
stephgFennec on arm17:02
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stephgha17:02
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janilol @ qt on arm! =)18:43
leinirplease qualify that statement ;)18:43
slonopotamusjani: gtk on arm is even more lol :)18:44
leinirslonopotamus: i just find it more *facepalm*, but that's just my opinion on gtk in general - entirely personal ;)18:45
slonopotamus:D18:45
slonopotamusmeh, my palm m505 with _33mhz_ cpu opens calculator faster than n900 overclocked to 1 ghz18:47
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janileinir: [17:01] <thiago> Stskeeps: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/427818:48
GeneralAntillesslonopotamus, Palm's architecture is a lot different.18:49
leinirjani: Very lol, nicely ;)18:49
jani^ qt on arm! =)18:49
leiniri have one of those too, just not used it yet ;)18:50
slonopotamusGeneralAntilles: so what? it's 10 years old device.18:50
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GAN900slonopotamus, so apples and oranges.19:09
GAN900The Palm isn't doing anything most of the time19:09
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GAN900and programs are effectively stored in RAM.19:09
GAN900Both of which make for responsive opening.19:09
slonopotamusn900 isn't doing anything when i just start up damn calculator.19:10
GAN900Yes it is.19:10
GAN900It's maintaining a cellular connection, listening to accelerometer input, showing various status info in the menu bar, etc, etc.19:10
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slonopotamusadditionally, it (calculator) weirdly blinks on startup19:11
GAN900I agree that Nokia sucks at optimizing, but the issue isn't that simple.19:11
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GAN900That's the cached preview image19:11
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GAN900to make you feel like the app is loading faster19:11
slonopotamus...19:11
GAN900Except Nokia did it wrong19:11
slonopotamusblinking doesn't make apps launching faster19:12
GAN900They should've done like Apple and shown blank UI elements.19:12
slonopotamusand it spends precious time loading and showing that preview image19:12
GAN900It makes it FEEL faster, which, when it works, is effectively the same thing.19:12
GAN900It's a function of the compositor.19:12
GAN900It's basically free.19:12
slonopotamuslaunching calculator is basically free, however n900 manages to do it slowly and with a blink.19:13
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slonopotamusw/e, it's total offtopic :)19:14
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berndhsyeah, they problems in the modern world. Mass starvation, threat of nuclear war, and slow-launching calculators19:15
CosmoHillsounds like this info is useful19:15
MyrttiI vote for cheesecake19:15
CosmoHill+119:15
berndhs+119:16
berndhsyes cheesecake can be a problem too19:16
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GAN900slonopotamus, hey, you brought it up.19:16
slonopotamusGAN900: yep :P19:16
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vkvraju_Hi all20:19
CosmoHillhi20:19
vkvraju_I tried booting meego on n900 today. This is with the image that includes Nokia's closed components.20:20
vkvraju_I am having an issue with it, can someone help please20:20
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vkvraju_I was able to see the menu initially and then suddenly the screen went blank. No idea how to get the menu screen back20:20
andre__vkvraju_, what's the exact image name? is this reproducible after removing the battery and rebooting?20:21
vkvraju_andre__: the image name is meego-handset-armv7l-n900acceptance-1.0.90.4.20100924.4-mmcblk0p.raw.bz220:22
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vkvraju_didn't try removing the battery yet. Just booted into it couple of minutes back.20:22
TSCHAKeee2vgrade: around?20:23
vkvraju_and the kernel is this : meego-handset-armv7l-n900acceptance-1.0.90.4.20100924.4-vmlinuz-2.6.35.3-10.1-n90020:23
peb_vkvraju, and I was about to ask how's it working (meego@N900)20:23
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CosmoHillI think someone should start a n900 FAQ20:23
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TSCHAKeee2vgrade: any chance an emgd repository will show up again, now that there is an official release?20:23
vkvraju_loaded kernel with this command : flasher-3.5 -l -b -k <kernel name>20:23
vkvraju_CosmoHill: That would be really helpful20:24
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vkvraju_I read in meego forums today that the latest image was able to make and recieve calls and SMS's20:25
vkvraju_so, thought of trying it. The process to install was simple enough but the experience after booting into it was not :(20:25
Stskeepsflasher -l -k <kernel> -b20:26
CosmoHill-b needs to be the last flag?20:26
Stskeepsright20:27
Stskeepsit carries kernel command line20:27
vkvraju_I followed instructions form the wiki here : http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/MMC20:27
andre__vkvraju_: by the way, do you own the DSL router of your current IP address (122.164.138.130)?20:27
vkvraju_almost the last last  command in that page20:27
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vkvraju_no idea andre20:28
andre__vkvraju_: "admin" as user and "password" as password are a bit insecure if you don't want people like me to change your router settings.20:28
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vkvraju_oh no, please don't do that !20:29
Stskeepsandre__: haxx0r20:29
vkvraju_I will ask my friend to change it. I am using his connection20:29
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andre__Stskeeps, sorry, cannot resist to try default settings sometimes.20:29
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CosmoHillwhy does the router have remote access enabled anyway20:30
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py_newbieHi, can someone help me with requirements to install meego? I have an amd x2 4000 , 4gb ram running win7 x64. the system requirements at http://meego.com/devices/netbook/installing-meego-your-netbook mentions MeeGo will not work on non-SSSE3 CPUs. can I install meego sdk inside a vmware VM running ubuntu 10.x and learn meego for netbooks?20:32
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CosmoHillpy_newbie: meego won't work, you have an AMD20:33
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py_newbiecurrently my development happens for win projects so I can't wipe that out and install linux as primary/host os20:33
py_newbieCosmoHill: not even in a VM?20:33
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py_newbiebuying an intel syste, with SSSE3 just to learn meego is heavy requriement!20:34
CosmoHillI don't think it will work in a VM either since the host doesn't have SSSE320:34
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py_newbies/syste/system20:34
CosmoHillyou're welcome to try it20:34
CosmoHillbut I don't know how much will work without SSE320:34
CosmoHillSSSE3*20:34
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CosmoHillyou're next issue will be the graphics card20:35
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py_newbiea local client is offering a tiny meego project, so buying a new system for that is a huge step , I will not even recover the cost of the system is project does not take off20:38
py_newbieso I would appreciate all I help I can get to see if meego can run in a vmware vm with linux20:39
CosmoHillmeego is still in heavy development20:39
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py_newbiewebsites says sdk 1.0 has been released?20:39
CosmoHillat some point there may be a non-SSSE3 port or one that would work on AMD20:39
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CosmoHillit probably has, I don't know if you can run it on an AMD since I don't own one to test on20:40
CosmoHillalso when you say the cost of the system are you thinking £800 workstation or £200 netbook?20:40
py_newbiemore like $300 without monitor20:41
py_newbieI mean desktop/workstation20:41
py_newbieso I can use it for another stuff if this meego project does not workout20:41
CosmoHillI think this meego project has to work out, it is the replacement for moblin and maemo20:42
py_newbiesorry , my bad20:42
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py_newbieI did not mean meego project20:42
CosmoHillah, this client's meego based project?20:42
py_newbieI meant the tiny meego project I am getting20:42
CosmoHillMeego used Qt for it's interface so if your project is Qt it should be able to work on any platyfor20:43
CosmoHillplatform20:43
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CosmoHillI.E. You don't need meego to make a Meego app if you stick to Qt20:44
py_newbiemy client, who is local small software  firm is getting an order to test a meego project, which they want to pass to me20:44
py_newbiethey nor I have any idea about meego20:44
vkvrajuhmm20:44
py_newbieso my first assignment  is to build a small meego project20:44
py_newbiethen learn how to test meego apps20:44
vkvrajuso, I removed the battery and rebooted20:45
vkvrajuthe system went back to maemo20:45
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peb_vkvraju, at least you have not bricked the N90020:45
py_newbieI see scope in this but it is a bit of a risk to invest in a desktop jsut to learn meego20:45
vkvrajuoh, is there a chance to brick the N900 too?20:46
CosmoHillI don't think you can brick your N900, at least nobody in here has20:46
vkvrajunow, I am scraed to try further20:46
* dm8tbr still waits for bricks to build his house20:46
peb_:-) Hey, I tried to be positive!20:46
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peb_So if nobody in here has, the chance for vkvraju to be the first are ... less than 10% or lower ..20:47
py_newbieif I buy a new intel system and install linux , will I be able to learn and buld apps for netbooks as well as for handset ( in an emulator?)20:47
CosmoHillby default the N900 boots into meamo and I think it always will since you are unable to replace the NAND20:47
CosmoHill(I think)20:48
vkvrajuI want to try installing MeeGo and make a phone call. Is that possible?20:48
vkvrajuwith the Nokia's 24 Sept image20:48
CosmoHillthat depends, do you want to do it as a test or as an every day phone?20:48
vkvrajuas a test ofcourse20:48
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CosmoHillpy_newbie: $240 USD for a nettop without monitor20:48
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CosmoHillor keyboard, or mouse, or wifi, or optical drive...20:49
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py_newbie:( cant go for nettop, has to be a workstation , if I don't get the full meego project later, I would be able to use the desktop for proper development20:50
vkvrajuCosmoHill: are there any better instructions to be followed for this installation process?20:50
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CosmoHillI honestly have no idea20:51
CosmoHillSince I don't own a N900 I've never looked for flashing guides :)20:51
py_newbieso if I buy a cheap low end intel cpu that has SSSE3 support, install linux, then I will be able to use meego to learn, right?20:51
CosmoHillalmost20:52
py_newbiealmost?20:52
CosmoHillyou also need to worry about the graphics card20:52
vkvrajuthats ok. so, anyone here that can help. Stskeeps?20:52
CosmoHillFor example meego kinda works on my C2D laptop20:52
CosmoHillthe reason it doesn't work fully is because it's got an nvidia graphics card, not an Intel one20:52
py_newbiethe default graphics on mobo wont work?20:52
py_newbieofcouse, I will go for a intel cpu + an intel mobo20:53
CosmoHillif they are intel and if it's not GMA500 then there's a good chance20:53
CosmoHillI think there will be a better list on the meego website20:53
py_newbieI found generic sys reqs but not a list20:53
py_newbieI will try again20:53
CosmoHillpy_newbie: I speced up a cheap meego capable computer with the ability to be upgraded a lot20:54
py_newbieyes, i agree20:54
py_newbieonce client pays ;) I can upgrade20:54
CosmoHillso you can go from a i3 with intergraded graphics to an i7 with PCI-E graphics and a load more RAM20:54
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py_newbiefor me i3 is almost high end20:55
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py_newbieI am thinking a old dual core 2 cpu20:55
CosmoHillI have a Pentium 4 :)20:55
py_newbiemeego works on that20:55
py_newbie?20:55
CosmoHillyeah, I have a C2D laptop and meego kinda runs on that20:55
CosmoHill(see above)20:55
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py_newbieI have a dell poweregse sc430 with dual core cpu20:56
py_newbielet me see if it supports SSSE320:56
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py_newbielol, forgot it has a really crapy graphics chipset20:56
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CosmoHillis it intel?20:56
py_newbies/poweregse/poweredge20:56
py_newbieyes20:56
CosmoHillcat /proc/cpuinfo | grep ssse320:57
py_newbiehas win7 x64 running20:57
CosmoHillI have a poweredge, 44kg of scrap20:57
py_newbiebut I will try some hardware info utility to find out20:57
py_newbiepoweredges are is heavy! the only think I dont like about them20:58
py_newbieotherwise rock solid, very dependable20:58
CosmoHillmine is almost old enough to start highschool20:58
py_newbiecan you please give the specs of your cpu/mobo , I will use taht as a basic ref to buy a low end sytem20:59
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CosmoHillhold on20:59
py_newbiethat is my poweredge does not workout, I think the graphcis chipset will not be compatible21:00
CosmoHillwhat is it?21:00
py_newbiesome 16mb onboard chipset21:00
CosmoHillyou know you can boot meego off a memory stick / dvd to test it21:00
py_newbiereally, no21:00
py_newbiethanks21:00
CosmoHillcan that be adjusted in the BIOS?21:00
py_newbiewhat should I download21:01
py_newbieis there a live cd for meego21:01
CosmoHillthe image is the livecd21:01
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py_newbieCosmoHill: would you be referring to this : http://meego.com/downloads/releases/netbook21:03
CosmoHillyes21:03
py_newbiesays for netbooks?21:03
py_newbieok21:03
CosmoHillI think the netbook refers to the UX21:03
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py_newbiewhat is the diff between MeeGo v1.0 for Netbooks (Google Chrome Browser) and21:04
py_newbieMeeGo v1.0 for Netbooks21:04
py_newbieI should go with MeeGo v1.0 for Netbooks , right?21:04
py_newbiefor now, I just want to boot up and see if my system can run meego21:05
CosmoHillI've lost the computer spec but i know it was £203 GBP21:05
py_newbieif you can give me ecant cpu and mobo model that will be great, that is all I need21:06
py_newbieor even just the brand and model21:06
py_newbieI will google for rest21:06
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py_newbies/ecant/exact21:06
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CosmoHillhttp://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_5563.html21:07
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py_newbieI dont want to buy a low end system and find I made a mistake :P21:07
CosmoHillI think it may have been this one21:07
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CosmoHillI'm not 100% sure so do whatever at your own risk21:07
py_newbie:-)21:07
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py_newbieI will fly down and hold you responsible :-)21:08
CosmoHillhmm I have an idea21:08
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py_newbieyou system is i3!21:08
py_newbieI thought you said a pentium?21:09
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CosmoHillit maybe able to take a Pentium if it's the same socket and has an intergraded graphics21:10
CosmoHillI think a 2008 Mac mini would be meego capble21:10
theplicCosmoHill: hi21:10
CosmoHillhello21:10
CosmoHillright, in about 20 mins I'm going to ignore all of you and go back to my homework21:10
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py_newbieCosmoHill: thanks for your help21:11
CosmoHillyou're welcome21:11
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CosmoHilltheplic: scratch that, I'm eating dinner. nom nom nom21:19
mikeleibwhere does CosmoHill study?21:19
CosmoHillAnglia Ruskin University in England21:19
mikeleibexcellent21:20
CosmoHillindeed21:20
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theplicCosmoHill: kk21:22
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samsinHi all21:22
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samsinHappy Meego user here :)21:22
samsinExept for21:22
CosmoHillyay21:22
* CosmoHill cocks gun21:22
samsinExcept dfor one thing : I see the boot console when I hit Alt+tab21:22
samsinafter a alted installation & a "/usr/sbin/first-boot" hand done21:23
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samsinany idea how to disable the main console to show on alt+tab <,21:23
samsin<,21:24
samsinThank's21:24
CosmoHillyou sure you're not going to tty0 by mistake?21:24
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samsinCosmoHill: sure21:24
samsineven if, how can it be shown on a alt+tab that msut be catch by X for switching x apps ?21:25
CosmoHillI have no idea :)21:25
samsinIf i do a Alt+tab : first it show the boot tty, then next time it will switch to the next X app, thn again the tty, then the next X app...21:26
dm8tbraw KzH21:26
dm8tbrgrrr21:26
samsinquitte anoying, isn't it ? :)21:26
samsinI haven't found anything related on forums.21:27
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samsinanyway I've found something here : http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=115621:32
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taiffuHi, where I can account to this service build.obs.maemo.org22:16
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CosmoHillI don't know but I hear it's an uphill battle22:16
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taiffuSo its there someting athoer build service around for meego?22:18
CosmoHillI think DawnFoster would be a good person to speak to about this22:20
taiffuok, good to know. Thanks22:20
Stskeepstaiffu: there should be a community OBS coming within the next weeks22:20
taiffuahaa22:21
ScottishDuckso is everything in RC mode now22:21
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Stskeepsor panic mode, depending on perspective22:23
taiffu:)22:24
DawnFosteroh good, it looks like Stskeeps answered before I got to it :)22:25
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ScottishDuckhow many scary bugs do you have to squish22:25
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djszapimsg Lynoure ping23:00
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Lynourehmm23:02
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__key__wh00p23:07
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__key__u guys have a website for more information on meego ?23:07
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CosmoHillwww.google.com23:07
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__key__u guys bought that site or what ?23:08
CosmoHillyes we bought it23:08
__key__maybe google forgot to re-register the domain ?23:08
__key__and u just snagged it up23:08
__key__hrmm23:08
__key__i don't see anything about meego at google.com23:08
__key__just a bunch of search stuff23:08
* __key__ thinks somebody is pulling his leg23:09
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__key__can Meego run a Cucumber Task Queue ?23:10
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aukeI know a website that can answer that question.23:10
__key__http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potato23:10
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__key__?23:10
__key__auke, what's that23:11
Stskeeps__key__: trolling again?23:11
Stskeeps:P23:11
aukehttp://google.com/23:11
__key__Stskeeps, sup with u today?23:11
__key__auke, I don't think that site is yours23:11
Stskeeps__key__: fennec is what's up23:11
Stskeeps:P23:11
auke__key__: if you're serious, feel free to stay. if not, please, go somewhere else23:11
__key__auke, u don't like me?23:11
__key__ok then23:11
__key__i will leave u alone, hater23:12
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TSCHAKeee2where are the kickstart files stored for the various builds ?23:12
StskeepsTSCHAKeee2: gitorious, either os base or infrastructure23:13
jedixI came across them in the repos23:13
StskeepsDawnFoster: any news on TSG tomorrow?23:13
TSCHAKeee2Stskeeps: okay23:13
TSCHAKeee2I am going to attempt to install the emgd from a tarball in postinstall, since there is no emgd repo any more23:13
StskeepsTSCHAKeee2: sounds like fun23:14
StskeepsTSCHAKeee2: i think vgrade did something like this already23:14
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TSCHAKeee2Stskeeps: vgrade pointed to a repository, which.. isn't there anymore.. i have been trying to get in touch with him.23:17
StskeepsTSCHAKeee2: yes, but from tarball23:17
TSCHAKeee2Stskeeps: i am going to attempt to do an install of the handset UX onto an Archos 9, and use that as the basis for my new orbiter research...23:17
TSCHAKeee2ok.23:17
TSCHAKeee2I guess i just need to flag him down.23:18
TSCHAKeee2I'm cobbling bits together from different kickstart files, but wanted to see the baseline kickstarts being used in trunk.23:18
Stskeepsthey're in meego.gitorious.org23:18
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DawnFosterStskeeps: I wish I knew :) Still trying to confirm as always23:20
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StskeepsDawnFoster: hehe, good luck then :)23:20
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TSCHAKeee2Stskeeps: found it, thank you23:22
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TSCHAKeee2Stskeeps: stupid question, does @build_id@ get set by OBS?23:23
Stskeepsno, by mic23:23
Stskeeps--release=daily for instance23:23
Stskeepsor 1.0.90blahblah23:23
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TSCHAKeee2understood23:24
TSCHAKeee2okay! :D23:24
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TSCHAKeee2what would cause "mic.imgcreate.errors.CreatorError: Command 'file' is not available." ??23:44
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py_newbieHi, the hardware specs mentions , meego requires CPU: 32bit Intel Atom or Intel Core 2 CPU  and a compatible Intel graphics chipset ,23:57
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py_newbieI am planning on buying an intel core 2 duo cpu23:57
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py_newbiecan some one pls point me to docs on "compatible Intel graphics chipset"23:57
py_newbieI thought the default on an intel mobo would be ok, but would help to see list of compatible Intel graphics chipset to be sure23:58
aukeanything except the gma50023:59
aukethere is a list somewhere23:59

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