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| auke | Stskeeps: do you remember what the screen size/xrandr output on n900 is again? | 00:04 |
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| auke | nvm found it | 00:05 |
| CosmoHill | what was it? | 00:06 |
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| auke | 800x480 | 00:06 |
| CosmoHill | not bad | 00:06 |
| CosmoHill | what's american tv, 600x480? | 00:06 |
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| jausmus | I think 640'ish, for SD | 00:07 |
| auke | 640x480i | 00:07 |
| CosmoHill | 640 for regular and 854 for widescreen | 00:07 |
| auke | that's what comes out of my video grabber :) | 00:07 |
| jausmus | 1920 for widescreen ;) | 00:08 |
| auke | for OTA SD content | 00:08 |
| auke | OTA HD content is mixed 1080i/720p | 00:08 |
| CosmoHill | so I could almost replace my TV with a n900 | 00:08 |
| auke | I wonder if you can plug in a USB OTA DVB-T ATSC tuner and watch tv | 00:08 |
| auke | on n900 | 00:08 |
| CosmoHill | (well that's a lie since we use 576i over here) | 00:08 |
| auke | or equivalent for europe | 00:08 |
| auke | PAL has a higher resolution at lower framerate == same factual data density | 00:09 |
| auke | PAL = 25fps, NTSC = 29.97fps | 00:09 |
| CosmoHill | interesting | 00:09 |
| auke | HD is 60fps for 1080i | 00:09 |
| auke | or 30fps for 720p/1080p | 00:09 |
| CosmoHill | 1080p is 24, 30 or 60 | 00:10 |
| auke | yes | 00:10 |
| auke | 24 for pal | 00:10 |
| CosmoHill | it's something stupid like 24.9 | 00:10 |
| auke | yes | 00:11 |
| auke | same with ntsc | 00:11 |
| auke | 29.97 (who came up with that?) | 00:11 |
| CosmoHill | "30's a nice round number....to round..." | 00:12 |
| CosmoHill | whilst on the topic of resolutions, does an xbox 360 support 1680x1050 via vga? | 00:13 |
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| auke | you mean, on a d-sub cable? | 00:13 |
| CosmoHill | yes | 00:13 |
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| auke | I'm not sure if the chip does, but that resolution is within the limits of what should be possible | 00:14 |
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| CosmoHill | now I need to get me a vga cable...and an xbox | 00:14 |
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| GAN900 | CosmoHill, yes. | 00:31 |
| GAN900 | CosmoHill, at least as far as I can remember. | 00:31 |
| GAN900 | 1440x900, too, I think. | 00:31 |
| CosmoHill | I've had a 360 controller for years so I figured at some point I should get the rest | 00:32 |
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| GAN900 | You're done for now. :P | 00:33 |
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| __key__ | what exactly is meego ? | 00:39 |
| __key__ | i mean, is it an OS for my iphone 4 ? | 00:39 |
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| CosmoHill | do you know what the meego website is? | 00:40 |
| __key__ | CosmoHill, no | 00:40 |
| CosmoHill | where did you read of the channel? | 00:40 |
| __key__ | FreeNode | 00:40 |
| CosmoHill | bullshit | 00:40 |
| __key__ | ? | 00:40 |
| __key__ | from /list | 00:40 |
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| CosmoHill | there are 1000s of channels on here so I dounbt that you'll stubble across one | 00:40 |
| __key__ | yours is big | 00:41 |
| __key__ | a very big channel you have here | 00:41 |
| CosmoHill | www.meego.com | 00:41 |
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| __key__ | ahh, that is, your website ? | 00:41 |
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| CosmoHill | it's meego's website | 00:41 |
| __key__ | this, meego, can i run it on my iPad ? | 00:41 |
| CosmoHill | maybe in the future if apple allow third party OSes on it | 00:42 |
| auke | ask apple :) | 00:42 |
| __key__ | apple's lame huh | 00:42 |
| __key__ | what about running a small cluster with meego boxes ? | 00:42 |
| __key__ | like a beowolf cluster | 00:42 |
| CosmoHill | read the website first | 00:42 |
| __key__ | ok, so first read the website | 00:43 |
| __key__ | then i can come back to the channel? | 00:43 |
| csdb | __key__: great idea. Let us know how it goes | 00:43 |
| __key__ | ok, will do! | 00:43 |
| csdb | after you have the beowolf cluster? sure | 00:43 |
| __key__ | hrmm | 00:44 |
| __key__ | the site's down ? | 00:44 |
| __key__ | i get error 404 | 00:44 |
| CosmoHill | http://meego.com/ | 00:45 |
| CosmoHill | works for me | 00:45 |
| __key__ | ahh | 00:45 |
| __key__ | nginx, nice | 00:45 |
| __key__ | i was trying, http://meego.com/cluster | 00:45 |
| CosmoHill | okay | 00:45 |
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| CosmoHill | keep reading the website and you'll find out that meego is not for clusters | 00:46 |
| __key__ | alright then, will ready the site and get back to u. later! | 00:46 |
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| CosmoHill | troll? | 00:46 |
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| auke | close | 00:47 |
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| auke | I don't see why you couldn't run meego on a cluster | 00:51 |
| auke | but, anyone asking about it should be ignored. If you want to run a cluster you better know how to google :) | 00:51 |
| CosmoHill | I actually used meego as a host system to make LFS | 00:52 |
| auke | well, you can use any OS that has a decent compiler chain for that | 00:52 |
| CosmoHill | knoppix was being annoying | 00:53 |
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| TSCHAKeee2 | what is the best way to debug when mic craps out with "error: not an rpm file" ? | 01:55 |
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| CosmoHill | cyas | 03:07 |
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| TSCHAKeee2 | is there a kickstart for ivi with emgd? | 03:14 |
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| vnepo | guys anyone check out the new meego ux video...meego running on TI OMAP..its very fast and smooth check it out in youtube | 03:33 |
| vnepo | youtube.com/watch?v=S20k1mvL8d0 | 03:34 |
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| __key__ | wh00p | 03:45 |
| __key__ | checked out the website earlier | 03:45 |
| __key__ | i see you guys are gonna run meego in cars | 03:45 |
| __key__ | ? | 03:45 |
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| __key__ | wh00p | 03:48 |
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| __key__ | so, meego is in beta ? | 04:50 |
| __key__ | <ding> | 04:50 |
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| TSCHAKeee2 | damn | 05:13 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | i upgraded to the latest MIC, and now I get: failed to run mic inside bootstrap environment, error code -4 | 05:14 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | well fuck a dickety duck | 05:15 |
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| flavioferreira | How i put meego on n900? | 07:14 |
| flavioferreira | i used this link : http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/NAND | 07:15 |
| wmarone | See if this helps: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=757 | 07:15 |
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| flavioferreira | but i dont have a sd card here | 07:16 |
| flavioferreira | i need use only usb | 07:16 |
| johnx | you need an sd card | 07:17 |
| flavioferreira | is possible? | 07:17 |
| wmarone | sd card is required for booting meego at this time | 07:17 |
| flavioferreira | The phone works in meego on n900? | 07:18 |
| johnx | in a very basic way | 07:18 |
| johnx | it's not usable day-to-day | 07:18 |
| flavioferreira | can i do a phone call ? | 07:18 |
| johnx | I believe so | 07:19 |
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| flavioferreira | ok ok | 07:19 |
| flavioferreira | i will search a sd card in my car | 07:19 |
| flavioferreira | thankss | 07:20 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 11:28 |
| djszapi | morning | 11:29 |
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| lbt | hey Jaffa | 11:32 |
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| Myrtti | I wish my brain would finally start for today | 11:38 |
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| djszapi | Myrtti: have a kickoff then :) | 11:40 |
| Myrtti | djszapi: coffee seems to do absolutely nothing | 11:43 |
| djszapi | :P | 11:44 |
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| Tumi_ | Myrtti: go running couple of times around the office, that will do the trick! | 12:05 |
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| Myrtti | Tumi_: ... what office? | 12:11 |
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| Tumi_ | Myrtti: does not really matter. Pick the closest one =) | 12:13 |
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| Myrtti | awww, there's no office in 10miles radius... | 12:15 |
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| Tumi_ | then I guess one round is enough ;) | 12:17 |
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| peb_ | Myrtti ... what about a round around the house? | 12:19 |
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| Myrtti | I'm not going out there to tresspass on other peoples gardens... | 12:21 |
| peb_ | Myrtti, I see it's getting difficult. Let's go back to coffee: How about an increased dose of that drug? | 12:22 |
| Myrtti | GOOD IDEA! | 12:22 |
| Myrtti | it's morning still, so I'm allowed :-P | 12:22 |
| peb_ | Myrtti, French Press or an automatic coffee maker? | 12:22 |
| Myrtti | Bialetti Moka Express with 100% Columbian espresso roast/grind (brought from Columbia by BF) | 12:23 |
| Myrtti | automatic drip machines are horrid | 12:24 |
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| peb_ | Just dared to asked ... and to estimated if and how successfull the treatment can be. | 12:27 |
| dm8tbr | mokka express <3 | 12:27 |
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| Myrtti | ok, now I've snorted my coffee too. | 12:37 |
| Myrtti | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOqx7HCwZI8 | 12:37 |
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| peb_ | Myrtti, any effect yet? | 12:46 |
| Myrtti | not considerably - but I'm a bit strange - not so long ago I fell asleep happily an hour after having a whole moka pot... | 12:46 |
| Myrtti | oh well, I guess I'll just have to plough through the day... again | 12:47 |
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| bergie | nice, Helsinki MeeGo Network is now in meetup.com: http://www.meetup.com/Helsinki-MeeGo-Network/ | 14:16 |
| djszapi | gooood ! | 14:17 |
| djszapi | will the next meeting be held at Symbio ? | 14:17 |
| djszapi | (itamerenkatu) | 14:18 |
| bergie | that was the initial idea... I'll try to get it confirmed on Friday | 14:18 |
| djszapi | ok, it is inplace for me :P | 14:18 |
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| Myrtti | on our series of "Has Myrtti missed a memo or something": Why isn't the Birmingham MeeGo Experts meetup a Local MeeGo Network? | 14:23 |
| Myrtti | bergie: :thumbsup: | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | Myrtti: they didn't get the memo, maybe | 14:24 |
| sivu | myrtti forgot to knit me something... | 14:24 |
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| Myrtti | sivu: the mittens are still halfway done in my trunk and your address on my fridge door | 14:24 |
| sivu | aww | 14:24 |
| sivu | btw, moved to a new address since march 2010 | 14:25 |
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| Myrtti | hehe | 14:25 |
| Myrtti | good to know | 14:25 |
| Myrtti | if I ever get the mittens done, I'll ask for an update :-D | 14:25 |
| sivu | ok. i'll expect somewhere around 2012.. :) | 14:26 |
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| djszapi | sivu :) | 14:32 |
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| andre__ | sigh. Why oh why do some guys attach word documents to bug reports in bugs.meego.com that just contain two lines of text that are the key entities to query for and of course are not part of the bug report text so they cannot be searched for (to avoid dups)? | 14:39 |
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| w00t_ | andre__: smack them | 14:39 |
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| andre__ | w00t_, I do, I do... I just have the very bad idea that this might be something that their managers told them :-/ | 14:39 |
| Stskeeps | bug example? | 14:40 |
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| andre__ | Stskeeps: there are billions of. 7349, 7355, 7353, 7350, 7351, .... | 14:41 |
| andre__ | I try to explain why it's bad. Hopefully they understand. | 14:41 |
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| Sage_ | /tmp/BUG_13641_Trans2.docx could not be saved, because you cannot change the contents of that folder. | 14:44 |
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| Sage_ | I can't even open the .docx without saving it to specific folder ;) | 14:44 |
| andre__ | Sage_, awesome, right? Same here, with .doc it works. | 14:44 |
| Sage_ | yes with .doc it work | 14:44 |
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| Sage_ | Well, my first question is why using .docx in the first place to _MeeGo_ bugzilla. Can meego even open .docx? :) | 14:45 |
| andre__ | Sage: I wonder if it's a shared-mime-info issue on this machine, or a general issue. Also Fedora13? | 14:46 |
| Sage_ | f13 yes | 14:46 |
| andre__ | so, bug report, you or me? ;-) | 14:46 |
| Sage_ | I'll give this one to you ;) | 14:46 |
| andre__ | darrn! :-P | 14:46 |
| stephg | seems to me andre__ volunteered ;) | 14:46 |
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| vilvo | qa-tools weekly at #meego-meeting in 5 minutes, welcome | 14:55 |
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| daisy21 | Could anyone tell me if i can use my meego repos in Moblin 2.1 | 14:57 |
| daisy21 | ? | 14:58 |
| Stskeeps | probably not possible | 14:58 |
| daisy21 | It looks like Moblin repos are being stopped | 14:58 |
| daisy21 | Can't yum install anything | 14:58 |
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| mairas | finally got an account to MeeGo OBS. now, is there a way to set my real name and change the password there? | 15:28 |
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| Stskeeps | osc meta user -e | 15:29 |
| mairas | yay | 15:29 |
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| CosmoHill | mairas: congrats | 15:29 |
| mairas | CosmoHill, that was an uphill battle ;-) | 15:29 |
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| CosmoHill | I ride up some place called "hill view road" so I'm used to it :p | 15:29 |
| mairas | haha | 15:30 |
| CosmoHill | the top of the road is a little higher than the university | 15:30 |
| CosmoHill | the bottom of it is a little lower than it | 15:30 |
| slaine | Does it have a view of the hill ?> | 15:30 |
| CosmoHill | you'd think so but no | 15:31 |
| slaine | There's a road near me called Fernview court. It's not a court, there's no ferns to view | 15:32 |
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| lcuk | CosmoHill, slaine - theres a place in America called Mianus but .. | 15:47 |
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| CosmoHill | There's a place in american called Hell | 15:48 |
| lcuk | most of the Nokians around here work in Hel! | 15:49 |
| * CosmoHill watches Hercules in HD | 15:50 | |
| adeus | some of the Nokians here live in Nokia! | 15:50 |
| dm8tbr | there is a town in Norway called Hell | 15:50 |
| stephg | I have been there | 15:50 |
| slaine | lcuk, That particular place name is a common favorite around the office. | 15:50 |
| stephg | is near trondheim? | 15:50 |
| slaine | it never gets old | 15:50 |
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| dm8tbr | stephg: I keep forgetting, but some radio amateurs I know operated from that town. The operating mode was Hell(schreiber) | 15:51 |
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| stephg | heh | 15:52 |
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| andrewzro | hello | 16:23 |
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| andrewzro | can anybody tell me if he trie to build chromium for ARM in MEeGo 1.0 or later? | 16:24 |
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| andrewzro | anybody? | 16:30 |
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| djszapi | why do you ask it ? Do you have any issue ? | 16:34 |
| Stskeeps | andrewzro: i think we tried but it failed to compile | 16:35 |
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| andrewzro | yes, it's failing for me to | 16:37 |
| andrewzro | I tried to add some options to gyp_chromium as I found on google: | 16:38 |
| andrewzro | %ifarch %{arm} | 16:38 |
| andrewzro | <------><------> -D target_arch=arm \ | 16:38 |
| andrewzro | <------><------> -D armv7=1 \ | 16:38 |
| andrewzro | <------><------> -D disable_nacl=1 \ | 16:38 |
| andrewzro | <------><------> -D linux_use_tcmalloc=0 \ | 16:38 |
| andrewzro | %endif | 16:38 |
| andrewzro | but it still tried to build nacl and fail | 16:38 |
| Stskeeps | not sure, got a build log? | 16:38 |
| andrewzro | yes, how do I upload it | 16:38 |
| andrewzro | ? | 16:38 |
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| Stskeeps | pastie.org | 16:39 |
| Stskeeps | copy it in there and paste the url here | 16:39 |
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| andrewzro | here: http://pastie.org/1186485 | 16:42 |
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| Stskeeps | well, just wanted to congratulate you on having an actual working OBS meego ARM setup :) | 16:44 |
| andrewzro | :) thanks | 16:44 |
| Stskeeps | we are a bunch of ARM people sitting in #meego-arm too | 16:45 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | :D | 16:45 |
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| thiago | Stskeeps: have you seen Qt on arm? | 16:59 |
| Stskeeps | thiago: hmm? | 17:00 |
| Stskeeps | (unsure what you mean, obviously i've seen qt on arm as i work on n900 adaptation of meego..) | 17:00 |
| thiago | Stskeeps: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4278 | 17:01 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 17:01 |
| Stskeeps | i should have a meego on arm instead.. | 17:01 |
| stephg | Fennec on arm | 17:02 |
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| Stskeeps | die | 17:02 |
| stephg | ha | 17:02 |
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| jani | lol @ qt on arm! =) | 18:43 |
| leinir | please qualify that statement ;) | 18:43 |
| slonopotamus | jani: gtk on arm is even more lol :) | 18:44 |
| leinir | slonopotamus: i just find it more *facepalm*, but that's just my opinion on gtk in general - entirely personal ;) | 18:45 |
| slonopotamus | :D | 18:45 |
| slonopotamus | meh, my palm m505 with _33mhz_ cpu opens calculator faster than n900 overclocked to 1 ghz | 18:47 |
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| jani | leinir: [17:01] <thiago> Stskeeps: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4278 | 18:48 |
| GeneralAntilles | slonopotamus, Palm's architecture is a lot different. | 18:49 |
| leinir | jani: Very lol, nicely ;) | 18:49 |
| jani | ^ qt on arm! =) | 18:49 |
| leinir | i have one of those too, just not used it yet ;) | 18:50 |
| slonopotamus | GeneralAntilles: so what? it's 10 years old device. | 18:50 |
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| GAN900 | slonopotamus, so apples and oranges. | 19:09 |
| GAN900 | The Palm isn't doing anything most of the time | 19:09 |
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| GAN900 | and programs are effectively stored in RAM. | 19:09 |
| GAN900 | Both of which make for responsive opening. | 19:09 |
| slonopotamus | n900 isn't doing anything when i just start up damn calculator. | 19:10 |
| GAN900 | Yes it is. | 19:10 |
| GAN900 | It's maintaining a cellular connection, listening to accelerometer input, showing various status info in the menu bar, etc, etc. | 19:10 |
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| slonopotamus | additionally, it (calculator) weirdly blinks on startup | 19:11 |
| GAN900 | I agree that Nokia sucks at optimizing, but the issue isn't that simple. | 19:11 |
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| GAN900 | That's the cached preview image | 19:11 |
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| GAN900 | to make you feel like the app is loading faster | 19:11 |
| slonopotamus | ... | 19:11 |
| GAN900 | Except Nokia did it wrong | 19:11 |
| slonopotamus | blinking doesn't make apps launching faster | 19:12 |
| GAN900 | They should've done like Apple and shown blank UI elements. | 19:12 |
| slonopotamus | and it spends precious time loading and showing that preview image | 19:12 |
| GAN900 | It makes it FEEL faster, which, when it works, is effectively the same thing. | 19:12 |
| GAN900 | It's a function of the compositor. | 19:12 |
| GAN900 | It's basically free. | 19:12 |
| slonopotamus | launching calculator is basically free, however n900 manages to do it slowly and with a blink. | 19:13 |
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| slonopotamus | w/e, it's total offtopic :) | 19:14 |
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| berndhs | yeah, they problems in the modern world. Mass starvation, threat of nuclear war, and slow-launching calculators | 19:15 |
| CosmoHill | sounds like this info is useful | 19:15 |
| Myrtti | I vote for cheesecake | 19:15 |
| CosmoHill | +1 | 19:15 |
| berndhs | +1 | 19:16 |
| berndhs | yes cheesecake can be a problem too | 19:16 |
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| GAN900 | slonopotamus, hey, you brought it up. | 19:16 |
| slonopotamus | GAN900: yep :P | 19:16 |
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| vkvraju_ | Hi all | 20:19 |
| CosmoHill | hi | 20:19 |
| vkvraju_ | I tried booting meego on n900 today. This is with the image that includes Nokia's closed components. | 20:20 |
| vkvraju_ | I am having an issue with it, can someone help please | 20:20 |
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| vkvraju_ | I was able to see the menu initially and then suddenly the screen went blank. No idea how to get the menu screen back | 20:20 |
| andre__ | vkvraju_, what's the exact image name? is this reproducible after removing the battery and rebooting? | 20:21 |
| vkvraju_ | andre__: the image name is meego-handset-armv7l-n900acceptance-1.0.90.4.20100924.4-mmcblk0p.raw.bz2 | 20:22 |
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| vkvraju_ | didn't try removing the battery yet. Just booted into it couple of minutes back. | 20:22 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | vgrade: around? | 20:23 |
| vkvraju_ | and the kernel is this : meego-handset-armv7l-n900acceptance-1.0.90.4.20100924.4-vmlinuz-2.6.35.3-10.1-n900 | 20:23 |
| peb_ | vkvraju, and I was about to ask how's it working (meego@N900) | 20:23 |
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| CosmoHill | I think someone should start a n900 FAQ | 20:23 |
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| TSCHAKeee2 | vgrade: any chance an emgd repository will show up again, now that there is an official release? | 20:23 |
| vkvraju_ | loaded kernel with this command : flasher-3.5 -l -b -k <kernel name> | 20:23 |
| vkvraju_ | CosmoHill: That would be really helpful | 20:24 |
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| vkvraju_ | I read in meego forums today that the latest image was able to make and recieve calls and SMS's | 20:25 |
| vkvraju_ | so, thought of trying it. The process to install was simple enough but the experience after booting into it was not :( | 20:25 |
| Stskeeps | flasher -l -k <kernel> -b | 20:26 |
| CosmoHill | -b needs to be the last flag? | 20:26 |
| Stskeeps | right | 20:27 |
| Stskeeps | it carries kernel command line | 20:27 |
| vkvraju_ | I followed instructions form the wiki here : http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/MMC | 20:27 |
| andre__ | vkvraju_: by the way, do you own the DSL router of your current IP address (122.164.138.130)? | 20:27 |
| vkvraju_ | almost the last last command in that page | 20:27 |
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| vkvraju_ | no idea andre | 20:28 |
| andre__ | vkvraju_: "admin" as user and "password" as password are a bit insecure if you don't want people like me to change your router settings. | 20:28 |
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| vkvraju_ | oh no, please don't do that ! | 20:29 |
| Stskeeps | andre__: haxx0r | 20:29 |
| vkvraju_ | I will ask my friend to change it. I am using his connection | 20:29 |
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| andre__ | Stskeeps, sorry, cannot resist to try default settings sometimes. | 20:29 |
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| CosmoHill | why does the router have remote access enabled anyway | 20:30 |
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| py_newbie | Hi, can someone help me with requirements to install meego? I have an amd x2 4000 , 4gb ram running win7 x64. the system requirements at http://meego.com/devices/netbook/installing-meego-your-netbook mentions MeeGo will not work on non-SSSE3 CPUs. can I install meego sdk inside a vmware VM running ubuntu 10.x and learn meego for netbooks? | 20:32 |
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| CosmoHill | py_newbie: meego won't work, you have an AMD | 20:33 |
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| py_newbie | currently my development happens for win projects so I can't wipe that out and install linux as primary/host os | 20:33 |
| py_newbie | CosmoHill: not even in a VM? | 20:33 |
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| py_newbie | buying an intel syste, with SSSE3 just to learn meego is heavy requriement! | 20:34 |
| CosmoHill | I don't think it will work in a VM either since the host doesn't have SSSE3 | 20:34 |
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| py_newbie | s/syste/system | 20:34 |
| CosmoHill | you're welcome to try it | 20:34 |
| CosmoHill | but I don't know how much will work without SSE3 | 20:34 |
| CosmoHill | SSSE3* | 20:34 |
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| CosmoHill | you're next issue will be the graphics card | 20:35 |
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| py_newbie | a local client is offering a tiny meego project, so buying a new system for that is a huge step , I will not even recover the cost of the system is project does not take off | 20:38 |
| py_newbie | so I would appreciate all I help I can get to see if meego can run in a vmware vm with linux | 20:39 |
| CosmoHill | meego is still in heavy development | 20:39 |
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| py_newbie | websites says sdk 1.0 has been released? | 20:39 |
| CosmoHill | at some point there may be a non-SSSE3 port or one that would work on AMD | 20:39 |
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| CosmoHill | it probably has, I don't know if you can run it on an AMD since I don't own one to test on | 20:40 |
| CosmoHill | also when you say the cost of the system are you thinking £800 workstation or £200 netbook? | 20:40 |
| py_newbie | more like $300 without monitor | 20:41 |
| py_newbie | I mean desktop/workstation | 20:41 |
| py_newbie | so I can use it for another stuff if this meego project does not workout | 20:41 |
| CosmoHill | I think this meego project has to work out, it is the replacement for moblin and maemo | 20:42 |
| py_newbie | sorry , my bad | 20:42 |
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| py_newbie | I did not mean meego project | 20:42 |
| CosmoHill | ah, this client's meego based project? | 20:42 |
| py_newbie | I meant the tiny meego project I am getting | 20:42 |
| CosmoHill | Meego used Qt for it's interface so if your project is Qt it should be able to work on any platyfor | 20:43 |
| CosmoHill | platform | 20:43 |
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| CosmoHill | I.E. You don't need meego to make a Meego app if you stick to Qt | 20:44 |
| py_newbie | my client, who is local small software firm is getting an order to test a meego project, which they want to pass to me | 20:44 |
| py_newbie | they nor I have any idea about meego | 20:44 |
| vkvraju | hmm | 20:44 |
| py_newbie | so my first assignment is to build a small meego project | 20:44 |
| py_newbie | then learn how to test meego apps | 20:44 |
| vkvraju | so, I removed the battery and rebooted | 20:45 |
| vkvraju | the system went back to maemo | 20:45 |
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| peb_ | vkvraju, at least you have not bricked the N900 | 20:45 |
| py_newbie | I see scope in this but it is a bit of a risk to invest in a desktop jsut to learn meego | 20:45 |
| vkvraju | oh, is there a chance to brick the N900 too? | 20:46 |
| CosmoHill | I don't think you can brick your N900, at least nobody in here has | 20:46 |
| vkvraju | now, I am scraed to try further | 20:46 |
| * dm8tbr still waits for bricks to build his house | 20:46 | |
| peb_ | :-) Hey, I tried to be positive! | 20:46 |
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| peb_ | So if nobody in here has, the chance for vkvraju to be the first are ... less than 10% or lower .. | 20:47 |
| py_newbie | if I buy a new intel system and install linux , will I be able to learn and buld apps for netbooks as well as for handset ( in an emulator?) | 20:47 |
| CosmoHill | by default the N900 boots into meamo and I think it always will since you are unable to replace the NAND | 20:47 |
| CosmoHill | (I think) | 20:48 |
| vkvraju | I want to try installing MeeGo and make a phone call. Is that possible? | 20:48 |
| vkvraju | with the Nokia's 24 Sept image | 20:48 |
| CosmoHill | that depends, do you want to do it as a test or as an every day phone? | 20:48 |
| vkvraju | as a test ofcourse | 20:48 |
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| CosmoHill | py_newbie: $240 USD for a nettop without monitor | 20:48 |
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| CosmoHill | or keyboard, or mouse, or wifi, or optical drive... | 20:49 |
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| py_newbie | :( cant go for nettop, has to be a workstation , if I don't get the full meego project later, I would be able to use the desktop for proper development | 20:50 |
| vkvraju | CosmoHill: are there any better instructions to be followed for this installation process? | 20:50 |
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| CosmoHill | I honestly have no idea | 20:51 |
| CosmoHill | Since I don't own a N900 I've never looked for flashing guides :) | 20:51 |
| py_newbie | so if I buy a cheap low end intel cpu that has SSSE3 support, install linux, then I will be able to use meego to learn, right? | 20:51 |
| CosmoHill | almost | 20:52 |
| py_newbie | almost? | 20:52 |
| CosmoHill | you also need to worry about the graphics card | 20:52 |
| vkvraju | thats ok. so, anyone here that can help. Stskeeps? | 20:52 |
| CosmoHill | For example meego kinda works on my C2D laptop | 20:52 |
| CosmoHill | the reason it doesn't work fully is because it's got an nvidia graphics card, not an Intel one | 20:52 |
| py_newbie | the default graphics on mobo wont work? | 20:52 |
| py_newbie | ofcouse, I will go for a intel cpu + an intel mobo | 20:53 |
| CosmoHill | if they are intel and if it's not GMA500 then there's a good chance | 20:53 |
| CosmoHill | I think there will be a better list on the meego website | 20:53 |
| py_newbie | I found generic sys reqs but not a list | 20:53 |
| py_newbie | I will try again | 20:53 |
| CosmoHill | py_newbie: I speced up a cheap meego capable computer with the ability to be upgraded a lot | 20:54 |
| py_newbie | yes, i agree | 20:54 |
| py_newbie | once client pays ;) I can upgrade | 20:54 |
| CosmoHill | so you can go from a i3 with intergraded graphics to an i7 with PCI-E graphics and a load more RAM | 20:54 |
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| py_newbie | for me i3 is almost high end | 20:55 |
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| py_newbie | I am thinking a old dual core 2 cpu | 20:55 |
| CosmoHill | I have a Pentium 4 :) | 20:55 |
| py_newbie | meego works on that | 20:55 |
| py_newbie | ? | 20:55 |
| CosmoHill | yeah, I have a C2D laptop and meego kinda runs on that | 20:55 |
| CosmoHill | (see above) | 20:55 |
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| py_newbie | I have a dell poweregse sc430 with dual core cpu | 20:56 |
| py_newbie | let me see if it supports SSSE3 | 20:56 |
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| py_newbie | lol, forgot it has a really crapy graphics chipset | 20:56 |
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| CosmoHill | is it intel? | 20:56 |
| py_newbie | s/poweregse/poweredge | 20:56 |
| py_newbie | yes | 20:56 |
| CosmoHill | cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep ssse3 | 20:57 |
| py_newbie | has win7 x64 running | 20:57 |
| CosmoHill | I have a poweredge, 44kg of scrap | 20:57 |
| py_newbie | but I will try some hardware info utility to find out | 20:57 |
| py_newbie | poweredges are is heavy! the only think I dont like about them | 20:58 |
| py_newbie | otherwise rock solid, very dependable | 20:58 |
| CosmoHill | mine is almost old enough to start highschool | 20:58 |
| py_newbie | can you please give the specs of your cpu/mobo , I will use taht as a basic ref to buy a low end sytem | 20:59 |
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| CosmoHill | hold on | 20:59 |
| py_newbie | that is my poweredge does not workout, I think the graphcis chipset will not be compatible | 21:00 |
| CosmoHill | what is it? | 21:00 |
| py_newbie | some 16mb onboard chipset | 21:00 |
| CosmoHill | you know you can boot meego off a memory stick / dvd to test it | 21:00 |
| py_newbie | really, no | 21:00 |
| py_newbie | thanks | 21:00 |
| CosmoHill | can that be adjusted in the BIOS? | 21:00 |
| py_newbie | what should I download | 21:01 |
| py_newbie | is there a live cd for meego | 21:01 |
| CosmoHill | the image is the livecd | 21:01 |
| * py_newbie checking meego website | 21:01 | |
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| py_newbie | CosmoHill: would you be referring to this : http://meego.com/downloads/releases/netbook | 21:03 |
| CosmoHill | yes | 21:03 |
| py_newbie | says for netbooks? | 21:03 |
| py_newbie | ok | 21:03 |
| CosmoHill | I think the netbook refers to the UX | 21:03 |
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| py_newbie | what is the diff between MeeGo v1.0 for Netbooks (Google Chrome Browser) and | 21:04 |
| py_newbie | MeeGo v1.0 for Netbooks | 21:04 |
| py_newbie | I should go with MeeGo v1.0 for Netbooks , right? | 21:04 |
| py_newbie | for now, I just want to boot up and see if my system can run meego | 21:05 |
| CosmoHill | I've lost the computer spec but i know it was £203 GBP | 21:05 |
| py_newbie | if you can give me ecant cpu and mobo model that will be great, that is all I need | 21:06 |
| py_newbie | or even just the brand and model | 21:06 |
| py_newbie | I will google for rest | 21:06 |
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| py_newbie | s/ecant/exact | 21:06 |
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| CosmoHill | http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_5563.html | 21:07 |
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| py_newbie | I dont want to buy a low end system and find I made a mistake :P | 21:07 |
| CosmoHill | I think it may have been this one | 21:07 |
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| CosmoHill | I'm not 100% sure so do whatever at your own risk | 21:07 |
| py_newbie | :-) | 21:07 |
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| py_newbie | I will fly down and hold you responsible :-) | 21:08 |
| CosmoHill | hmm I have an idea | 21:08 |
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| py_newbie | you system is i3! | 21:08 |
| py_newbie | I thought you said a pentium? | 21:09 |
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| * py_newbie cant affoard a i3 | 21:09 | |
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| CosmoHill | it maybe able to take a Pentium if it's the same socket and has an intergraded graphics | 21:10 |
| CosmoHill | I think a 2008 Mac mini would be meego capble | 21:10 |
| theplic | CosmoHill: hi | 21:10 |
| CosmoHill | hello | 21:10 |
| CosmoHill | right, in about 20 mins I'm going to ignore all of you and go back to my homework | 21:10 |
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| * theplic sets the timer | 21:11 | |
| py_newbie | CosmoHill: thanks for your help | 21:11 |
| CosmoHill | you're welcome | 21:11 |
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| CosmoHill | theplic: scratch that, I'm eating dinner. nom nom nom | 21:19 |
| mikeleib | where does CosmoHill study? | 21:19 |
| CosmoHill | Anglia Ruskin University in England | 21:19 |
| mikeleib | excellent | 21:20 |
| CosmoHill | indeed | 21:20 |
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| theplic | CosmoHill: kk | 21:22 |
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| samsin | Hi all | 21:22 |
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| samsin | Happy Meego user here :) | 21:22 |
| samsin | Exept for | 21:22 |
| CosmoHill | yay | 21:22 |
| * CosmoHill cocks gun | 21:22 | |
| samsin | Except dfor one thing : I see the boot console when I hit Alt+tab | 21:22 |
| samsin | after a alted installation & a "/usr/sbin/first-boot" hand done | 21:23 |
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| samsin | any idea how to disable the main console to show on alt+tab <, | 21:23 |
| samsin | <, | 21:24 |
| samsin | Thank's | 21:24 |
| CosmoHill | you sure you're not going to tty0 by mistake? | 21:24 |
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| samsin | CosmoHill: sure | 21:24 |
| samsin | even if, how can it be shown on a alt+tab that msut be catch by X for switching x apps ? | 21:25 |
| CosmoHill | I have no idea :) | 21:25 |
| samsin | If i do a Alt+tab : first it show the boot tty, then next time it will switch to the next X app, thn again the tty, then the next X app... | 21:26 |
| dm8tbr | aw KzH | 21:26 |
| dm8tbr | grrr | 21:26 |
| samsin | quitte anoying, isn't it ? :) | 21:26 |
| samsin | I haven't found anything related on forums. | 21:27 |
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| samsin | anyway I've found something here : http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=1156 | 21:32 |
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| taiffu | Hi, where I can account to this service build.obs.maemo.org | 22:16 |
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| CosmoHill | I don't know but I hear it's an uphill battle | 22:16 |
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| taiffu | So its there someting athoer build service around for meego? | 22:18 |
| CosmoHill | I think DawnFoster would be a good person to speak to about this | 22:20 |
| taiffu | ok, good to know. Thanks | 22:20 |
| Stskeeps | taiffu: there should be a community OBS coming within the next weeks | 22:20 |
| taiffu | ahaa | 22:21 |
| ScottishDuck | so is everything in RC mode now | 22:21 |
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| Stskeeps | or panic mode, depending on perspective | 22:23 |
| taiffu | :) | 22:24 |
| DawnFoster | oh good, it looks like Stskeeps answered before I got to it :) | 22:25 |
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| ScottishDuck | how many scary bugs do you have to squish | 22:25 |
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| djszapi | msg Lynoure ping | 23:00 |
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| Lynoure | hmm | 23:02 |
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| __key__ | wh00p | 23:07 |
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| __key__ | u guys have a website for more information on meego ? | 23:07 |
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| CosmoHill | www.google.com | 23:07 |
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| __key__ | u guys bought that site or what ? | 23:08 |
| CosmoHill | yes we bought it | 23:08 |
| __key__ | maybe google forgot to re-register the domain ? | 23:08 |
| __key__ | and u just snagged it up | 23:08 |
| __key__ | hrmm | 23:08 |
| __key__ | i don't see anything about meego at google.com | 23:08 |
| __key__ | just a bunch of search stuff | 23:08 |
| * __key__ thinks somebody is pulling his leg | 23:09 | |
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| __key__ | can Meego run a Cucumber Task Queue ? | 23:10 |
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| auke | I know a website that can answer that question. | 23:10 |
| __key__ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potato | 23:10 |
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| __key__ | ? | 23:10 |
| __key__ | auke, what's that | 23:11 |
| Stskeeps | __key__: trolling again? | 23:11 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 23:11 |
| auke | http://google.com/ | 23:11 |
| __key__ | Stskeeps, sup with u today? | 23:11 |
| __key__ | auke, I don't think that site is yours | 23:11 |
| Stskeeps | __key__: fennec is what's up | 23:11 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 23:11 |
| auke | __key__: if you're serious, feel free to stay. if not, please, go somewhere else | 23:11 |
| __key__ | auke, u don't like me? | 23:11 |
| __key__ | ok then | 23:11 |
| __key__ | i will leave u alone, hater | 23:12 |
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| TSCHAKeee2 | where are the kickstart files stored for the various builds ? | 23:12 |
| Stskeeps | TSCHAKeee2: gitorious, either os base or infrastructure | 23:13 |
| jedix | I came across them in the repos | 23:13 |
| Stskeeps | DawnFoster: any news on TSG tomorrow? | 23:13 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | Stskeeps: okay | 23:13 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | I am going to attempt to install the emgd from a tarball in postinstall, since there is no emgd repo any more | 23:13 |
| Stskeeps | TSCHAKeee2: sounds like fun | 23:14 |
| Stskeeps | TSCHAKeee2: i think vgrade did something like this already | 23:14 |
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| TSCHAKeee2 | Stskeeps: vgrade pointed to a repository, which.. isn't there anymore.. i have been trying to get in touch with him. | 23:17 |
| Stskeeps | TSCHAKeee2: yes, but from tarball | 23:17 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | Stskeeps: i am going to attempt to do an install of the handset UX onto an Archos 9, and use that as the basis for my new orbiter research... | 23:17 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | ok. | 23:17 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | I guess i just need to flag him down. | 23:18 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | I'm cobbling bits together from different kickstart files, but wanted to see the baseline kickstarts being used in trunk. | 23:18 |
| Stskeeps | they're in meego.gitorious.org | 23:18 |
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| DawnFoster | Stskeeps: I wish I knew :) Still trying to confirm as always | 23:20 |
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| Stskeeps | DawnFoster: hehe, good luck then :) | 23:20 |
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| TSCHAKeee2 | Stskeeps: found it, thank you | 23:22 |
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| TSCHAKeee2 | Stskeeps: stupid question, does @build_id@ get set by OBS? | 23:23 |
| Stskeeps | no, by mic | 23:23 |
| Stskeeps | --release=daily for instance | 23:23 |
| Stskeeps | or 1.0.90blahblah | 23:23 |
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| TSCHAKeee2 | understood | 23:24 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | okay! :D | 23:24 |
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| TSCHAKeee2 | what would cause "mic.imgcreate.errors.CreatorError: Command 'file' is not available." ?? | 23:44 |
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| py_newbie | Hi, the hardware specs mentions , meego requires CPU: 32bit Intel Atom or Intel Core 2 CPU and a compatible Intel graphics chipset , | 23:57 |
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| py_newbie | I am planning on buying an intel core 2 duo cpu | 23:57 |
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| py_newbie | can some one pls point me to docs on "compatible Intel graphics chipset" | 23:57 |
| py_newbie | I thought the default on an intel mobo would be ok, but would help to see list of compatible Intel graphics chipset to be sure | 23:58 |
| auke | anything except the gma500 | 23:59 |
| auke | there is a list somewhere | 23:59 |
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