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| CosmoHill | cyas | 01:12 |
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| vltR | hi, can anyoune tell me something about meego for n900? | 01:36 |
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| leinir | vltR: Sure! One thing to tell you about it is that it exists ;) | 01:41 |
| leinir | If you qualify your question with an actual bit of information you might like to get, then we can probably help you a bit better ;) | 01:41 |
| johnx | vltR, it must be installed to a microSD card | 01:43 |
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| vltR | my question is | 01:45 |
| vltR | is it capable of everyday use | 01:45 |
| vltR | does it support calling, sms'ing, web browsing? ;] | 01:45 |
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| johnx | barely, maybe, it did and will gain | 01:47 |
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| johnx | so, I'd say, no it's really not ready for everyday use | 01:47 |
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| berndhs | johnx: just not as a phone, otherwise its real cool :) | 01:52 |
| johnx | I guess "everyday usable" depends on what you use it for ;) | 01:53 |
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| andre__ | vltR, I would not call it usable, no. I've been trying the releases of the last weeks and many things still don't work. | 01:55 |
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| Mat_Matan | morning | 06:24 |
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| bef0rd | uhm there's something wrong with this meego, everytime I wake up my netbook, my modem/ap internet connection stops working :| | 07:21 |
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| sofar | bef0rd: check if there's a bugzilla about that, if not, file one | 07:36 |
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| bef0rd | will check sofar, it wasnt happening with previous image though | 07:43 |
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| slaine | morning all | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | morn slaine | 09:57 |
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| segobi | can anyone tell me if this disk is running in sata mode or ide ? | 10:18 |
| segobi | ata3.00: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 300) | 10:18 |
| segobi | [ 2.560164] ata3.01: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300) | 10:18 |
| segobi | [ 2.565904] ata3.00: ATA-8: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB, SSD 6.00, max UDMA/133 | 10:18 |
| segobi | [ 2.565916] ata3.00: 31277232 sectors, multi 1: LBA48 | 10:18 |
| segobi | [ 2.591056] ata3.00: configured for UDMA/133 | 10:18 |
| segobi | [ 2.591407] scsi 2:0:0:0: Direct-Access ATA SanDisk pSSD-S2 SSD PQ: 0 ANSI: 5 | 10:18 |
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| sofar | segobi: clearly says "ata3.00: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps" | 10:27 |
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| segobi | yeah just though because it also says sata link down | 10:30 |
| segobi | again | 10:30 |
| sofar | that's the other port | 10:30 |
| sofar | 3:01 | 10:30 |
| segobi | ah ok thx | 10:30 |
| sofar | most sata controllers have 2 ports | 10:30 |
| segobi | thanks for the info! | 10:31 |
| segobi | didnt see it | 10:31 |
| segobi | most sata drives can run in IDE mode right ? | 10:31 |
| segobi | I got some external case for that mini pci express SSD and it only runs IDE not SATA | 10:32 |
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| segobi | hope its compatible | 10:32 |
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| tigorhugo | hi | 12:48 |
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| tigorhugo | anybody knows how much will Nokia N9 with Meego os sell ? | 12:50 |
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| Stskeeps | no, we don't own timemachines | 12:50 |
| Myrtti | tigorhugo: it's not a published product, so there's no way of telling | 12:51 |
| tigorhugo | haha | 12:51 |
| w00t_ | Stskeeps: speak for yourself.. *efg* | 12:51 |
| Myrtti | I own a microwave that could pass from a time machine. | 12:52 |
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| theplic | are pyqt applications preferred for meego? | 12:53 |
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| tigorhugo | Google says yes | 12:57 |
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| foxfell | hi all, what about n900 port? | 14:54 |
| Termana | foxfell, what about it? | 14:55 |
| foxfell | i mean: where can i get status | 14:56 |
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| Termana | foxfell, http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/HandsetTestReport/N900Sanity20100924 | 14:57 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/HandsetTestReport/N900Acceptance20100927 too | 14:58 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:58 |
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| foxfell | tnx | 14:58 |
| Termana | foxfell, go with Stskeeps' one, the one I pointed to is old :P | 14:58 |
| Myrtti | so can you or can't you make phonecalls with it yet? | 15:00 |
| Stskeeps | you can | 15:00 |
| Myrtti | so what's phonesim? | 15:00 |
| Stskeeps | phonesim is a phone simulator for ofono | 15:01 |
| Stskeeps | alternate driver, n900 modem is in use on n900 | 15:01 |
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| seif_ | ok guys i got me a microssd card from my gf | 15:37 |
| seif_ | 2 GB | 15:37 |
| seif_ | but she does not have an adapter | 15:37 |
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| FunkyPenguin | fcrozat, isnt that kernel thing a holdover from fedora's kernel policy? | 16:02 |
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| fcrozat | FunkyPenguin: no, it is a patch in libzypp meego package | 16:02 |
| fcrozat | at least, it is not describe as a "policy" | 16:03 |
| fcrozat | s/describe/described/ | 16:03 |
| infobot | fcrozat meant: at least, it is not described as a "policy" | 16:03 |
| fcrozat | thanks infobot :) | 16:03 |
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| FunkyPenguin | fcrozat, fair enough, i just remember RHT used to always install all kernels in parrelel and let users choose which they wanted | 16:04 |
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| fcrozat | FunkyPenguin: we had a similar policy at Mandriva. But you end with a lot of kernel installed | 16:04 |
| fcrozat | we tried to teach MandrivaUpdate to remove all but 3 kernels | 16:05 |
| FunkyPenguin | what happens if you just use yum for package management instead of zypp? | 16:05 |
| fcrozat | but it was just workarounding the issue | 16:05 |
| fcrozat | FunkyPenguin: no idea.. gpk is using libzypp and I'm not really interested in testing yet another package manager | 16:05 |
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| FunkyPenguin | heh | 16:06 |
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| RST38h | Anyone considered removing redundant package managers, etc? | 16:07 |
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| seif_ | FunkyPenguin, khello | 16:15 |
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| Myrtti | Jaffa: ping | 16:28 |
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| seif_ | wow meego is slow on the n900 | 16:32 |
| seif_ | very very slow | 16:32 |
| Stskeeps | seif_: what version did you download? | 16:33 |
| Stskeeps | and first boot is always slow | 16:33 |
| Stskeeps | keep in mind nothing is prestarted | 16:33 |
| seif_ | not the boot | 16:33 |
| seif_ | working with it | 16:33 |
| seif_ | non responsive at all | 16:34 |
| seif_ | as in the UX | 16:34 |
| Stskeeps | hmm, that sounds different than my experience | 16:34 |
| Stskeeps | what class SD | 16:34 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 16:34 |
| seif_ | huh? | 16:34 |
| Stskeeps | you know there's class 2,4,6 etc.. | 16:34 |
| seif_ | hwo do i figure it out | 16:34 |
| seif_ | ? | 16:34 |
| Stskeeps | usually there's a nice circle on the microsd | 16:35 |
| seif_ | no circled here | 16:36 |
| seif_ | its a scandisk 2 GB | 16:36 |
| seif_ | if it matters | 16:36 |
| Stskeeps | then it's probably a class 1, ie, bloody slow :P | 16:36 |
| seif_ | how can i get it on my emmc | 16:37 |
| seif_ | ? | 16:37 |
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| Stskeeps | can't, atm | 16:37 |
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| Jaffa | Myrtti: pong | 16:38 |
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| seif_ | Stskeeps, r u running meeg ofulltime | 16:43 |
| Stskeeps | not yet | 16:43 |
| Stskeeps | i will, eventually | 16:43 |
| Stskeeps | to eat my own dogfood | 16:43 |
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| seif_ | wht version r u using | 16:43 |
| Stskeeps | right now? 0924.4 | 16:43 |
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| seif_ | same here | 16:45 |
| seif_ | Stskeeps, why can i see the battery status yet | 16:46 |
| seif_ | or the wlan | 16:46 |
| Stskeeps | wlan works fine | 16:46 |
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| andre__ | hmm, booting latest MeeGo on N900 hangs at "Generating SSH1 RSA host key: _" (like BMO#708) | 16:49 |
| Stskeeps | version? | 16:49 |
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| andre__ | meego-handset-armv7l-n900acceptance-1.0.90.4.20100924.4 | 16:50 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 16:50 |
| Stskeeps | file a bug, didn't see that before though | 16:50 |
| Stskeeps | and CC carsten@maemo.org on it | 16:50 |
| andre__ | thanks | 16:51 |
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| * Jaffa needs to download the latest image and flash his N900. | 16:52 | |
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| seif_ | Stskeeps, could it be that meego does not ask for the pin | 16:58 |
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| Stskeeps | seif_: yes and phone functionality will only work on one without pin atm | 17:10 |
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| seif_ | if only maemo supported portrait mode | 17:12 |
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| Jaffa | seif_: Maemo does support portrait mode. | 17:15 |
| Jaffa | seif_: I suspect you mean "if only more applications on Maemo supported portrait mode". | 17:15 |
| seif_ | Jaffa, yeah that is what i meant | 17:15 |
| seif_ | example the home screen | 17:15 |
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| seif_ | trying nitdroid | 17:17 |
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| Stskeeps | evening zenvoid | 18:07 |
| zenvoid | hello Stskeeps | 18:07 |
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| TejWC | Hello, my name is TejWC. I am rather new here and I got a silly question. Right now MeeGo on the "Netbook" looks very different than MeeGo on the handset or tablet. So, this is difference going to stay like this or will the UI converge at some point? | 18:36 |
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| TejWC | I guess nobody is actually actively reading this channel :-/ | 18:43 |
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| Stskeeps | TejWC: i'm not sure, but i think netbook is a legacy ui and might eventually be replaced with a qt based one | 18:46 |
| TejWC | Stskeeps: Thanks. I assume the legacy is due to the "Moblin" project inheritance so I guess I can safely ignore it. | 18:48 |
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| biodi | hello, anyone interested in participating in an open source study? | 19:07 |
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| KA | hi, anyone into madde or meego sdk? I'm trying to install madde but create_from_image fails | 19:09 |
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| slonopotamus | btw. i saw a first-device-with-meego announce today, WeTab. | 19:47 |
| slonopotamus | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/WePad-and-NFS-NPad/ | 19:48 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 19:48 |
| wmarone | I would like to see the WeTab with an ARM | 19:48 |
| TejWC | Pre-order only :( | 19:48 |
| wmarone | the power savings alone would be worth it | 19:48 |
| slonopotamus | wmarone: many people would like to :) | 19:49 |
| slonopotamus | i'd say there's no reason to use x86 in mobile devices unless you're running windows | 19:50 |
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| TejWC | slonopotamus: or if you are sponsored by Intel ;) | 19:53 |
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| kaosum | I have a question about the MeeGo downloads for netbooks. Is the only difference in both downloads is that one comes with Google Chrome? What does the one without the Google Chrome come with? | 20:11 |
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| sNiff3ls | Hi everybody, can someone tell me whats the default root password for meego-ivi? I couldnt specify one at the installation. | 20:15 |
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| DawnFoster | kaosum: the other one comes with Chromium (the open source version of chrome) | 20:24 |
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| stephg | sNiff3ls: root and meego passwords are likely 'meego' without the quotes | 20:30 |
| sNiff3ls | hm but if i type sudo <some-command> and use meego as passwort it says: "meego is not in the sudoers file. this incident will be reported." | 20:31 |
| sNiff3ls | hmpf su works... | 20:31 |
| sNiff3ls | thanks | 20:31 |
| stephg | well as the error says | 20:31 |
| stephg | the meego user isn't in /etc/sudoers | 20:32 |
| stephg | you'd need to add it, but as you see su works | 20:32 |
| CosmoHill | I can confirm that the passwords are "meego" | 20:32 |
| stephg | CosmoHill maybe ;) | 20:32 |
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| stephg | sNiff3ls: You'd want to add the following line to /etc/sudoers (using visudo): | 20:33 |
| stephg | meego ALL=(ALL) | 20:34 |
| stephg | scrub that, should be: | 20:34 |
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| stephg | meego ALL=(ALL) ALL | 20:34 |
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| sNiff3ls | yeah found it already | 20:35 |
| sNiff3ls | thanks anyway | 20:35 |
| stephg | np | 20:35 |
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| CosmoHill | wb auke | 20:54 |
| auke | pidgin say POOF | 20:54 |
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| theplic | ok quick question | 20:54 |
| theplic | qt or pyqt? | 20:54 |
| auke | MTF | 20:55 |
| theplic | mtf? | 20:55 |
| auke | meego touch framework | 20:55 |
| Purti | did anyone try QT-Quick on meego? | 20:55 |
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| auke | woo, transifex-client finally made it to trunk | 21:06 |
| auke | diegobz: ^^ | 21:06 |
| theplic | auke: what is it? | 21:06 |
| theplic | is it an app you created? | 21:06 |
| auke | a cli for transifex. no it's just the upstream package. | 21:07 |
| theplic | auke: do you know how i can submit bugs | 21:07 |
| theplic | or rather how i can setup and build the source | 21:07 |
| auke | those are 2 very different things :) | 21:08 |
| auke | everything is in src.rpms that you can rpmbuild | 21:08 |
| theplic | auke: sorry. i meant patches for bugs | 21:08 |
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| auke | submitting bugs? -> bugs.meego.com | 21:08 |
| theplic | i need the source to build | 21:08 |
| auke | you can extract src.rpms and then you get the source code and all patches | 21:09 |
| theplic | auke: where can i find src.rpms? | 21:09 |
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| auke | repo.meego.com | 21:09 |
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| theplic | auke: should i look under build/trunk? | 21:10 |
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| auke | theplic: I can't anser that, you need to figure out yourself which src.rpm's are for your system | 21:14 |
| theplic | auke: ok ty | 21:14 |
| CosmoHill | does the repo have ftp access? | 21:14 |
| theplic | CosmoHill: are you asking me? | 21:16 |
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| auke | CosmoHill: afaik no | 21:20 |
| auke | ftp? what's that? | 21:20 |
| CosmoHill | something that allows me to go "get *" :) | 21:20 |
| auke | and now you know why we don't have ftp | 21:21 |
| CosmoHill | :( | 21:21 |
| auke | haha | 21:21 |
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| auke | not like wget can't crawl a folder for you | 21:22 |
| CosmoHill | it can? :o | 21:22 |
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| auke | just mirror the folder with a depth of 1 | 21:22 |
| DawnFoster | theplic: You might also find this documentation about submitting patches to meego useful: http://meego.com/about/contribution-guidelines | 21:23 |
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| theplic | DawnFoster: thanks but what i really need is help on how to setup the dev environment | 21:24 |
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| CosmoHill | auke: I have a plan for meego from scratch | 21:24 |
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| auke | CosmoHill: haha | 21:31 |
| CosmoHill | I have quiet a lot of plans at the moment and some of them are stressing me out :/ | 21:31 |
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| CosmoHill | no idea where I got this liquid wand from, I think an op gave it to me in another channel | 21:32 |
| theplic | oh | 21:33 |
| theplic | i like tea | 21:33 |
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| theplic | especially lemon | 21:33 |
| CosmoHill | I've never had coffee | 21:33 |
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| Purti | I intend to develop a camera app for meego...any idea which hardware i should plan to test the app? | 21:52 |
| Stskeeps | anything that can implement gst-photography, i think | 21:52 |
| Purti | i want to use QT, QT Mobility and Gstreamer.. | 21:53 |
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| rrix | Hiyo... I've got access to the Meego buildservice instance but had kind of given up on it since I couldn't find the webui instance or it didn't exist or something... Has any of that changed/plan to change now that there is new servers and shinies at OSUOSL for MeeGo's buildservice? | 21:54 |
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| Stskeeps | there's supposed to open a community obs fairly soon | 21:55 |
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| rrix | Yup.. but I already have access to the non-community one, I just can't figure out osc well enough to navigate it. | 21:55 |
| Stskeeps | build.meego.com - what do you plan on doing there? | 21:56 |
| rrix | ah! now it's there? | 21:56 |
| rrix | Stskeeps: kde plasma-mobile builds | 21:56 |
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| diegobz | auke: awesome! | 22:21 |
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| CosmoHill | Cool, Nokia Netbook is on the Gadget show on channel 5 now | 22:26 |
| marnanel | On the handset UX, mdecorator crashes for me with these errors: http://pastebin.ca/1949830 Am I doing something obviously wrong? The stylesheets it's asking for do indeed not exist, but they aren't installed by the stylesheet packages. | 22:28 |
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