IRC log of #meego for Saturday, 2010-09-25

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bulletxthi, what would be the fastest way to install Qt4 on meego netbook 1.0? thanks00:12
bulletxtare there binary packages or am I forced to go through compiling sources?00:12
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renatoKhertan_Home, ping00:28
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lpotterbulletxt: there are binary packages00:29
sivanglpotter: yes, I was sure of that as well, but can't find them on repo.meego.com00:29
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sivanglpotter: the only thing qt in the repos is the connman wrappers and someother package as it seems.00:36
sivanglpotter: can you advice otherwise?00:37
sivanglpotter: consider this for example, http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/1.0.90.3.20100921.1/handset/repos/armv7l/packages/armv7l/ , but maybe it is available from other sources as an RPM Package00:37
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thiago_homeyay, my attendance to meegoconf has been accepted :-)00:40
sivangthiago_home: you mean, internal? there's no news for community participants yet right?00:41
thiago_homeyes00:42
thiago_homeas in I'm a Nokia person and we're limiting the number of Nokia people in the conf00:42
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sivangthiago_home:  i see., congrets00:43
* sivang brb00:43
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GAN900That doesn't make a lot of sense.00:49
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thiago_homewhat doesn't?00:51
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GAN900Reducing the number of Nokians.00:55
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GAN900Hard to foster open practices and collaborative atmosphere when you lock everybody away in the cathedral. :P00:56
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thiago_homeGAN900: well, we don't want to overwhelm either01:00
thiago_homewe want to make sure that other people can join01:00
thiago_homethe venue can fit 600 people01:01
thiago_homewe don't want 300 Intel people and 300 Nokians01:01
GAN900True enough, but I see good names having to fight far too hard to get in.01:02
thiago_homeI didn't have to fight. I registered today :-)01:02
thiago_homeI hadn't realised I had to register01:02
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thiago_homethen I spent 10 minutes on the website trying to figure out where I had to register01:03
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thiago_homeI was kinda embarrassed when I realised it was the big central part of the homepage saying "Sign up now"01:04
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GeorgeIoaklooking for help w/ ivi on a BeagleBoard. it boots but i get a ivihome has crashed and will restart. how can i debug this?03:52
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vnepohello04:07
vnepoany new news on meego n900?04:07
johnxvnepo, good things happening. I think they're close to redistributable SGX drivers too04:08
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vneposgx drivers?04:12
johnxthe drivers for the 3D chipset04:12
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vnepooh so that would make meego faster on the n90004:15
ScottishDuckit already has sgx drivers in the nokia builds04:17
vnepoi cant wait to install meego once a more stable build is available04:19
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j24hiy all07:17
j24I'm looking for a wiki or tuto how to build Meego07:18
j24as I want to add new arm boards and sh on it07:18
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ALoGeNomorning..12:03
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ALoGeNohey  is any way of deativate startup_progress from the boot init?12:13
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Stskeepsis that meego?12:13
ALoGeNois mer12:14
ALoGeNoi have 720 image running on the htc universal :)12:14
Stskeepsoff topic here then12:14
ALoGeNooh sorry i was thinked that is a derivated proyect :P12:14
Stskeepsit is, but questions go in #mer, not #meego :)12:15
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maurogood morning to every one!12:28
mauromeego wont install in my eeepc 1008ha,12:29
maurolivecd works very well,12:30
maurohow can i understand the problem?12:30
mauroi'm familiar with the terminal if it helps12:30
mauroduring install is an error on X server:12:31
maurofailed to load module "fbdev"12:31
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ALoGeNotry modprobe fbdev12:32
ALoGeNoor maybe you need xserver-xorg-video-fbdev packet12:32
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theplichi all12:33
ALoGeNomaybe you can serch it or install it with yum12:33
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mauroALoGeNo, but why in live is ok and in install mode no?12:33
ALoGeNohi theplic12:33
theplichi ALoGeNo12:33
ALoGeNoi dunno but the live cd's are more automatizated12:34
theplicdo you anything about what kind of libraries we can use for meego app development?12:34
maurook, module loaded12:34
ALoGeNowhen you install an OS you need to configure12:34
ALoGeNoless ubuntu12:34
ALoGeNoXD12:34
ALoGeNomauro,  try to start the X server and if that dont work, reinstall the fvdev xserver12:36
ALoGeNoif that work add line in etc/modules puting the name of the module fbdev12:37
maurook ALoGeNo12:37
ALoGeNoand restart12:37
maurobut i choose install mode12:37
ALoGeNookey12:37
mauroor can i install olso from livecd?12:37
ALoGeNonop12:38
ALoGeNoif you do modprobe and dont say nothing the module is loaded12:38
ALoGeNoyou can see if that is it with lsmod12:38
mauroah: i cannt access shell in install mode12:38
ALoGeNoif that is loaded add do that echo fbdev >/etc/modules12:39
ALoGeNoohh12:39
ALoGeNomaybe you have safe mode12:39
ALoGeNoboot in safe mode12:40
mauroALoGeNo,  i'm trying to install from usb, the only 3 choose are:12:40
maurolivecd12:40
mauroinstall mode12:40
maurohard disk12:41
maurowith live cd i can access 5 console (other xterm)12:41
ALoGeNosorry but im involved with armel stuff that is not like in pc x86 stuff.. :)12:41
ALoGeNoi dont was try the livecd distro12:41
maurooh12:41
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ALoGeNoColKilkenny,  i think that is with x86 but i dont remember12:42
maurois there an other method with meego?12:42
ALoGeNohum...12:43
ALoGeNoto boot from USB?12:43
ALoGeNoanother method of what?12:43
mauroof install to eeepc,12:44
maurowithout xserver i mean12:44
mauroin the debian style or slackware12:44
ALoGeNoyou know if that run with grub?12:44
mauroyes is grub12:45
ALoGeNoif yes, you can edit the boot parameters12:45
ALoGeNothere you maybe set some safe mode stuff12:45
ALoGeNomauro,  you have this fault?12:47
ALoGeNohey  is any way of deativate startup_progress from the boot init?12:47
ALoGeNosorry paste wrong12:47
ALoGeNoxd12:47
ALoGeNoInstallation completes using ext3 as / however X won't start... INIT: Id "x" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes..12:47
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ALoGeNomauro,  are you there?12:49
mauro...no  i see step findrootparts12:49
mauro(ops i'm here)12:49
ALoGeNowait.. you can install the whole OS and lather X dont run?12:49
maurodoes not exist12:49
ALoGeNoor that fault in X at the beggining?12:49
maurono, i cannot access the graphical interface for installing12:50
ALoGeNooh...12:50
ALoGeNowell you can clone it..12:50
ALoGeNoi mean..12:50
maurook you are in my mind12:51
ALoGeNoyou can boot the live cd, look for the main /rootfs cp -av all in any folder and lather mount12:51
maurook, i try this!!!12:51
ALoGeNoyou know what i mean?12:51
ALoGeNomaybe you can maintain you proper config or state from livecd :)12:52
ALoGeNoin this way i mean :)12:52
mauroi think yes, have i to chroot or no?12:53
ALoGeNobut isnt sure12:53
ALoGeNobut in this way you have the whole system installed12:53
ALoGeNoi have to check..12:53
lcukmauro, is your version of eeepc on the supported devices list, and did it work happily when you used it in liveusb mode?12:54
maurolcuk, yes it is and it works well12:56
lcukok so now you are having issues only after you have copied to hard disk?12:58
maurono, i can't install because the fist screen (welcome) appear but the button NEXT doesn't work,12:59
mauroin the 5 console i saw an error in the xserver: can't load module fbdev13:00
mauroand in the 2 console more warning that say " step `somewhat': does not exist (or any of similar)13:01
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ALoGeNomauro here is a way..13:02
ALoGeNohttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-from-scratch-13/boot-lfs-livecd-from-hard-disk-612890/13:02
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mauroALoGeNo, ok, i read and i think it is possible, but every time i have the live,13:09
maurowitouth savings of installed packeges ...13:09
mauroetc..13:09
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mauroAhhh: if i press next button , in the first console it says:13:13
mauromount: / not mounted, or bad option:13:13
maurothe only difference in livr mode and install mode is:13:13
mauroadding liveinst nosplash 4 at the end of "live command line"13:14
mauronow i tried  to boot with liveinst instead of liveimg13:16
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theplicdoes anyone how to use external libraries while developing an application for meego?13:17
mauroand the welcome screen appeared but with forward instead of next13:17
mauroYYYYEEEEEESSSSSS it works!!13:18
mauro....perphaps13:18
ALoGeNolol13:20
ALoGeNomauro in any case..13:20
mauro:-((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((13:20
ALoGeNotry this, in grub after the last parameter in kernel line, set video=vga13:20
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ALoGeNoand ctrl+x to bot or b13:21
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ALoGeNoiwas read that you can boot fedora Install with basic video driver13:21
* araujo writing a small scripting *lightweight* language13:24
mostytheplic, build/install the external library first, then continue as normal?13:25
thiago_homearaujo: assembly?13:26
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Khertan_Homerenato, pong13:27
araujothiago_home, not really, i am using objc ... with objfw ... a new portable library13:28
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theplicmosty: how do i install it in my xephyr dev environment?13:31
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mostytheplic, enter the chroot, and install it from the command line. or open a terminal in xephyr if you must13:35
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mauroME STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the problem was that the module of meego doesn't support click on touchpad,14:13
mauroi tried clicking on button or with enter and now i'm installing   :-(((14:13
maurosorry sorry sorry14:14
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Ami2489Hey15:37
Ami2489Hi15:37
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theplicmosty: are you here?15:41
mostyyes15:42
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Stskeepsmorn andre__15:50
andre__heja. :)15:51
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spurvewt|hhello, how i can mount my reiserfs partition from meego terminal?.. or where i can find some reiserfs utils for installing?16:21
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CosmoHillyou'd mount it like any other linux distro16:22
theplicis there anyone here who can tell me how i can use pyqt in xephyr?16:22
CosmoHillif it fails it means the kernel doesn't support that FS16:22
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theplichi CosmoHill16:23
CosmoHillhey theplic16:23
thepliccan i bother you with some newb questions?16:23
CosmoHillif it's the one I've just read from you, no16:23
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theplicwell can you atleast tell me how i can install stuff in my xephyr environment?16:24
CosmoHillvia zypper from the terminal16:24
theplicok16:24
spurvewt|hCosmoHill, yes, i have 'unknown filesystem..' :/16:24
theplicthanks ill try that16:24
CosmoHillspurvewt|h: check bugs.meego.com16:24
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CosmoHilllcuk: if you do LFS the support channel is very good even if it's a bit floppy hands16:31
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spurvewt|hCosmoHill, it seems there's nothing about reiser or i'm looking bad..16:33
CosmoHillyou can either file a bug or look harder16:33
CosmoHillI'd go for the former16:33
CosmoHillas far there is no EXT4, NTFS or the thing you just said support16:33
spurvewt|hok, thanks :)16:34
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MrCasenot sure how to ask it, so maybe i'll just do it: i want to develop a small app for my n900, but seeing how there is a general lack of quality applications on the n900/maemo i am wondering if i should go the meego route. will meego be supported somehow on the n900?17:18
thiago_homemeego already runs on the n90017:18
thiago_homebut you run it on the n900 on your own risk. Nokia will not recommend it.17:19
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CosmoHillmeego also supports netbooks so it would have a wider range of devices than maemo17:20
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MrCasethiago_home: how good does it run? i find maemo lacking in almost every aspect. today i had to restart the device in order to connect via UTMS. sometimes when i end calls the media player starts playing loudly (wasn't even running before). can one use meego on n900 for phone, web browsing, googletalk, skype, SMS?17:23
MrCaseCosmoHill: that is what i think too.17:23
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mostyMrCase, meego is much buggier on n900 than maemo17:24
thiago_homeMrCase: I use Maemo5 every day on my N90017:24
thiago_homeweb browsing, phone, skype, SMS17:25
thiago_homeand the occasional media player while on flights17:25
GAN900MrCase, no.17:25
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MrCasethiago: yeah, that works all for me too. with the occasional hiccup and lack of apps.17:27
sivangthiago_home: I like using the python based zoutube for on the road unpredicted choice of music :)17:28
RST38hthiago: Quick question: can I use QTimers without having to use Qt signal/slot system?17:28
mostyRST38h, don't think so, what's wrong with signals/slots?17:30
MrCasefor interoperability between maemo and meego, should i just focus on developing Qt?17:30
MrCase*with Qt17:30
thiago_homeas a recommendation? yes17:30
thiago_homeas a necessity? no. Both are X11, so you can run anything you'd want17:31
MrCaseroger. thanks.17:31
RST38hmosty: they do not work17:32
mostyRST38h, they work for me. you probably have an error in your code17:32
RST38hUsing Q_OBJECT at the start of the class definition bring up "no vtable" errors that I can only fix by moving constructor and destructor into the .h file17:32
mostyRST38h, are you sure that you have defined all the required methods?17:33
RST38hYes.17:33
RST38hAnd as I said, moving them to .h removes the errors17:33
mostyand you're running moc correctly?17:34
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RST38hNo idea. When I try running it standalone, it says that the binary is not found17:35
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RST38hwhich is strange given that the binary is there17:35
RST38hCustom build tools really really suck =(17:35
mostyare you using make directly, or generating makefiles with qmake?17:36
RST38hqmake does not work for me, there is a bug there that is probably too difficult to fix so they do not17:38
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RST38hAnd, again, makefiles have nothing to do with the message I get when I try running moc from command line17:38
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RST38has I said, custom build tools are...mmm...fun17:39
mostyqt does love to add wrappers to things17:39
mostyit's highly likely that you're not using moc correctly. if i were you i would investigate that- it will probably fix your vtable problem17:40
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RST38hLet me demonstrate:17:41
RST38hmoc: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),17:41
RST38hbash: ./moc: No such file or directory17:42
RST38hSo, 'file' says it is a proper executable binary but when I run it, it says there is no such file17:42
Stskeepswhat sb target?17:43
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mostyRST38h, try "strace ./moc" - you probably have missing libs, or haven't set LD_LIBRARY_PATH17:43
mostyand "ldd ./moc"17:44
sivangmosty: what could happen to make you need to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH ?17:44
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RST38hStskeeps; fremantle/armel17:48
RST38hStskeeps: but this executable does not run even outside the scratchbox. Same error.17:49
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* RST38h sighs and installs native Ubuntu10 tools17:54
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RST38hMaybe I can somehow make them run inside scratchbox or do some other hack17:55
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mostysivang, if you compiled qt and installed it somewhere unusual, and didn't add it to your ld.so.conf18:05
mostyusually when i get unexpected "file not found" errors, it turns out to be either a missing interpreter or a missing shared library18:05
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ircmastermanhttp://bit.ly/c6bASW18:40
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CosmoHillI can't read German18:41
ircmastermandoesnt matter^^ its a counter...thx for the click18:42
CosmoHilloh you bastard18:42
wmaronego go noscript18:43
ircmastermanthink before clicking!18:43
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CosmoHillI have ad blocker installed18:44
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thepliclol18:45
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theplicthat was nasty18:45
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theplichi in the repo (that zypper uses) theres xmlrpc-c-devel but not the c++ development package18:48
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theplic^^chuck that18:50
CosmoHillthis makes me feel better:  16:50:01 up 300 days, 17:20,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.0018:53
CosmoHillmwhahah18:53
lcukCosmoHill, i don't really have a hankering to build LFS, but I tihnk MFS would be cool to try18:55
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CosmoHill:)18:55
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RST38hMhm... Ok, looks like I know why it does not like the moc binary19:09
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RST38hIt has been compiled for Linux 2.2.x19:09
RST38hThis machine is 2.6.x19:09
RST38hAnd the moc installed as part of the Ubuntu10 Qt package does work19:10
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* RST38h found another gaping hole in MOC, right after finding one in QMake19:41
* RST38h now wonders if Qt has ever been used in any large scale commercial projects: its tools look like they have come from someone's college project19:42
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StskeepsRST38h: i am wondering why you try to run a x86 binary in a sb armel target though19:43
RST38hStskeeps: SB is a mixed environment, it runs both x86 and armel binaries19:43
RST38hStskeeps: SB2 at least19:44
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Stskeepsyes, but only if their ld-linux.so.* is there19:44
Stskeepsthat's why it says "no such file or directory"19:44
RST38hStskeeps: Now, the problem was that Fremantle qt package comes with x86 MOC compiled for Linux 2.2.x19:44
Stskeepsshouldn't be a problem19:44
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RST38hStskeeps: Once I replaced it with Ubuntu's own MOC, it started working19:44
Stskeeps(afaik)19:44
Stskeepseither way, i'm going back to banging my head against the fennec build process19:45
Stskeepsso infinitely more insane19:45
johnxRST38h, meego seems to be a large commercial project based on Qt :D19:45
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RST38hStskeeps: Anyways, I am not paid to analyze or fix Qt packaging,  let Qt people do that19:45
RST38hStskeeps: I have found a much worse hole though19:46
johnxStskeeps, and you're building for a 'supported' architecture :) imagine building for one that isn't ...19:46
RST38hjohnx: Well, then Meego developers are in for trouble19:46
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johnxRST38h, ok19:46
CosmoHilllcuk: just starting LFS (I figure best to do LFS first before trying MFS)19:46
StskeepsRST38h: scratchbox isn't exactly the most modern devel environment :P19:46
ScottishDuckmeego on hppa19:46
CosmoHillI'm loving the way VMware Workstaion is randomly freezing19:47
johnxCosmoHill, not enough RAM?19:47
CosmoHilllaptop has 4GB19:47
johnxand your VM has ... ?19:47
CosmoHill512MB19:47
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johnxreboot the VM. sometimes they just get wedged19:48
CosmoHillI think I'll reboot into init 319:48
CosmoHillthen ssh backdoor into it19:48
johnxalso, I dearly hope you had someone else give you the vmware license and didn't pay for it directly :)19:48
CosmoHillI get it for one year as a student19:48
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RST38hStskeeps,johnx: Anyway, hre is the story:19:52
StskeepsRST38h: first off - is it maemo or meego, i'm confused?19:53
RST38hWhen MOC takes a header file to process, that header may include parts that are only relevant in C++ mode or C mode19:53
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RST38hStskeeps: It is plain Qt in Fremantle19:53
RST38hStskeeps: And the distinction does not make any difference because the share the same tools19:54
Stskeepsfair enough19:54
RST38hSooo, if you have got a header with parts that only get included in C++, MOC will ignore these parts19:54
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PurtiI am trying to install MeeGo SDK with Xephyr on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS20:06
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Purtithe host machine is intel. I am using Oracle VM ware and ubuntu shows the VGA controller as VGA compatible controller: InnoTek Systemberatung GmbH VirtualBox Graphics Adapter20:07
Purtiquestion is can i install Meego SDK with Xephyr20:08
Purti?20:08
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RST38hAhahaha, a new problem20:12
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RST38hWhen you derive your class from two Qt classes and run it through MOC, the result will not compile20:13
RST38hGCC will, naturally, complain about QObject being an ambiguous base20:13
RST38hOk, I am afraid Qt signals/slots are a no-go, plan B.20:14
th3hateStskeeps, ping20:15
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th3hatewhat's the difference between acceptance image  and normal image?20:17
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CosmoHillhow do I install a group / pattern with zypper?20:17
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sivangth3hate: maybe acceptance image has got to have all the required compoenents for proper testing before release?20:19
sivangth3hate: e.g. for integration testing, or somesuch20:20
* sivang guesses20:20
* th3hate nods20:20
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CosmoHill zypper install -t pattern development-tools20:22
johnxis there an IVI or netbook repo for ARM?20:23
GAN900Not as far as I know.20:24
johnxsame conclusion I came to20:24
GAN900joy20:24
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GAN900johnx, we only want Atoms in those things, silly.20:25
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* johnx wants an ARM netbook with a pixel qi screen20:26
GAN900Don't we all.20:27
johnxalright, so if ARM netbook/IVI builds aren't happening for right now, is there a plan to start them later? (asking someone in the know, not just for opinions)20:27
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GAN900Last discussion I heard was that, no, there wasn't a plan, as such, but it would likely happen eventually.20:29
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GAN900The timeframe for which is likely dependent on vendor interest. . . .20:30
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Stskeepsjohnx: netbook is a build issue.. there was simply too much failin20:31
Stskeepsg20:31
StskeepsIVI is another issue and has been delayed a bit because IVI WG had to get set up and actors in place, etc..20:31
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johnxalright, so if I'm interested in netbook or IVI I should put my time where my mouth is as it were :)20:33
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* CosmoHill is getting annoyed at the random pauses20:39
smithnaOh, so that's why not much action on the IVI front....20:41
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RST38hHmmm20:42
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sofarthere's plenty happening with IVI20:43
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sofarexcept, the companies driving IVI tend to work much more behind the scenes20:43
* smithna was basing things off of changes on the daily repo for IVI20:44
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RST38bisMhm, QTimer, in its infinite wisdom, does not contain any virtual methods called on the timer expiration20:45
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RST38bisSo,essentially, the only way to use it through signals, and I already know how much trouble these signals are20:46
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w00t_RST38bis: QObject::startTimer20:49
smithnasofar: Any idea when us peons might see what's going on with IVI?20:52
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sofarthere should be another 1.1 IVI release20:56
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RST38bisw00t: Yes, yes, yessss!!!!!20:58
RST38bisw00t <-- the savior20:58
* RST38bis goes off to implement timerEvent()20:59
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CosmoHillit took me 15 mins to start building the temp tools for LFS just because when I copied the source over the LAN it come out the other wise with a different md521:02
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smithnasofar: I look forward to it...21:10
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Stskeepsevening fatalsaint21:10
FatalSaintAfternoon Sts21:11
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Stskeepsfatalsaint, saw latest post in n900 thread?21:11
FatalSaintmeego forums?21:12
FatalSaintno dont think so.. i'll go check21:12
stephgFatalSaint: you will like!21:13
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FatalSaintredistributable binaries finally?  awesomeness!21:14
Stskeepsand call audio21:14
FatalSaintSIM without PIN.. what specifically is that?21:14
stephga SIM without a passnumber21:15
FatalSaintHow do you know if you have one?21:15
stephgon your n900 do you have to enter 2 numbers at boot21:15
Stskeepsdevices ask you on startup for a PIN21:15
Stskeeps:P21:15
FatalSaintlol21:15
CosmoHillthat reminds me I need to set my pin21:15
FatalSaintAlrighty then.. guess that means I don't have one.21:15
CosmoHillcrap, it's already set but I didn't set it21:16
stephgCosmo what is your device?21:16
RST38bisNice vertically scrolled list of settings = QScrollArea? =)21:16
CosmoHillnokia 6220c21:17
stephgactually scratch that, you only have 3 attempts at your pin21:17
stephgthen you have to talk to your provider21:17
FatalSaintSkeeps: What are we hoping the final status will be at the 1.1 release in october?21:17
CosmoHillit says last attempt :o21:17
CosmoHillso I just press cancel21:17
stephgdo you depend on your phone :)21:17
CosmoHillI mean I can use the phone normally, I just can't set the pin21:18
stephgsomething doesn't add up21:18
stephgI mean, if you don't know what the pin is, what happens when you bounce your phone21:18
CosmoHillbounce?21:18
stephgrestart21:18
CosmoHillit's set so it doesn't ask you for the pin21:19
CosmoHillI think I can enable pin on boot but I can't change the pin code21:19
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stephgyou can probably add a device lock to your device (unrelated to the SIM PIN)21:21
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CosmoHilloh yes it's the device pin21:21
CosmoHillthe sim doesn't have one21:21
stephgthat makes more sense21:22
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RST38bisAh, it shows the config page perfeclty now!21:24
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CosmoHillluck: I think i might be able to used an unmodified version of the LFS temp tools to build meego21:29
CosmoHillas in I just need to add things like rpm and it's deps to the temp tools instead of changing the software versions and configurations21:29
CosmoHillyou'd then install the versions of the software by hand up until the part where you need to adjust the tool chain21:30
CosmoHillfrom then you should be able to compile meego src.rpm files in theory21:31
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apexi200sxdoes anyone know of when any meego devices re being released21:39
CosmoHillyes21:39
CosmoHill(I'm  not one of them)21:40
sofarI need to make a robot trigger a disclaimer when someone uses the word "when"21:40
sofar:)21:40
stephgha21:40
sofarapexi200sx: YES people know NO they cannot tell you21:41
CosmoHillsofar: something that shouts "Never!"21:41
johnxsofar, when will you get around to writing that? /ducks21:45
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stephgsomeone needs to open a bug!21:46
sofarhaha, yeah, file a bugzilla :)21:46
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stephgdd this to that bla bla bla I can't wait for the day that we can decimate the n900 image21:54
stephg2gb takes sooooooooo long21:54
CosmoHillbtyesize?21:55
stephg1946157057 bytes (1.9 GB) copied, 294.858 s, 6.6 MB/s21:55
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stephgI'm only moaning21:57
stephgignore me21:57
johnxthink he means you might do better with different dd settings :)21:57
stephgoh I see well nah 4k it is I guess for it is SD :(21:57
bef0rd4k? i do bs=4M for my uSD and it seems to work ok21:58
johnxactually, I forgot what I'm getting out of my "class 6" card, but it certainly isn't 6.6MB/s ...21:58
* stephg eats his words21:59
sofarbtrfs with compression will make the images about half the size22:00
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stephgsofar: yeah I know, and obv all the verticals images have the kitchen sink pulled in by default for testing22:03
sofarthere should still be normal images around22:10
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