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| bulletxt | hi, what would be the fastest way to install Qt4 on meego netbook 1.0? thanks | 00:12 |
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| bulletxt | are there binary packages or am I forced to go through compiling sources? | 00:12 |
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| renato | Khertan_Home, ping | 00:28 |
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| lpotter | bulletxt: there are binary packages | 00:29 |
| sivang | lpotter: yes, I was sure of that as well, but can't find them on repo.meego.com | 00:29 |
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| sivang | lpotter: the only thing qt in the repos is the connman wrappers and someother package as it seems. | 00:36 |
| sivang | lpotter: can you advice otherwise? | 00:37 |
| sivang | lpotter: consider this for example, http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/1.0.90.3.20100921.1/handset/repos/armv7l/packages/armv7l/ , but maybe it is available from other sources as an RPM Package | 00:37 |
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| thiago_home | yay, my attendance to meegoconf has been accepted :-) | 00:40 |
| sivang | thiago_home: you mean, internal? there's no news for community participants yet right? | 00:41 |
| thiago_home | yes | 00:42 |
| thiago_home | as in I'm a Nokia person and we're limiting the number of Nokia people in the conf | 00:42 |
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| sivang | thiago_home: i see., congrets | 00:43 |
| * sivang brb | 00:43 | |
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| GAN900 | That doesn't make a lot of sense. | 00:49 |
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| thiago_home | what doesn't? | 00:51 |
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| GAN900 | Reducing the number of Nokians. | 00:55 |
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| GAN900 | Hard to foster open practices and collaborative atmosphere when you lock everybody away in the cathedral. :P | 00:56 |
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| thiago_home | GAN900: well, we don't want to overwhelm either | 01:00 |
| thiago_home | we want to make sure that other people can join | 01:00 |
| thiago_home | the venue can fit 600 people | 01:01 |
| thiago_home | we don't want 300 Intel people and 300 Nokians | 01:01 |
| GAN900 | True enough, but I see good names having to fight far too hard to get in. | 01:02 |
| thiago_home | I didn't have to fight. I registered today :-) | 01:02 |
| thiago_home | I hadn't realised I had to register | 01:02 |
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| thiago_home | then I spent 10 minutes on the website trying to figure out where I had to register | 01:03 |
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| thiago_home | I was kinda embarrassed when I realised it was the big central part of the homepage saying "Sign up now" | 01:04 |
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| GeorgeIoak | looking for help w/ ivi on a BeagleBoard. it boots but i get a ivihome has crashed and will restart. how can i debug this? | 03:52 |
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| vnepo | hello | 04:07 |
| vnepo | any new news on meego n900? | 04:07 |
| johnx | vnepo, good things happening. I think they're close to redistributable SGX drivers too | 04:08 |
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| vnepo | sgx drivers? | 04:12 |
| johnx | the drivers for the 3D chipset | 04:12 |
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| vnepo | oh so that would make meego faster on the n900 | 04:15 |
| ScottishDuck | it already has sgx drivers in the nokia builds | 04:17 |
| vnepo | i cant wait to install meego once a more stable build is available | 04:19 |
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| j24 | hiy all | 07:17 |
| j24 | I'm looking for a wiki or tuto how to build Meego | 07:18 |
| j24 | as I want to add new arm boards and sh on it | 07:18 |
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| ALoGeNo | morning.. | 12:03 |
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| ALoGeNo | hey is any way of deativate startup_progress from the boot init? | 12:13 |
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| Stskeeps | is that meego? | 12:13 |
| ALoGeNo | is mer | 12:14 |
| ALoGeNo | i have 720 image running on the htc universal :) | 12:14 |
| Stskeeps | off topic here then | 12:14 |
| ALoGeNo | oh sorry i was thinked that is a derivated proyect :P | 12:14 |
| Stskeeps | it is, but questions go in #mer, not #meego :) | 12:15 |
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| mauro | good morning to every one! | 12:28 |
| mauro | meego wont install in my eeepc 1008ha, | 12:29 |
| mauro | livecd works very well, | 12:30 |
| mauro | how can i understand the problem? | 12:30 |
| mauro | i'm familiar with the terminal if it helps | 12:30 |
| mauro | during install is an error on X server: | 12:31 |
| mauro | failed to load module "fbdev" | 12:31 |
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| ALoGeNo | try modprobe fbdev | 12:32 |
| ALoGeNo | or maybe you need xserver-xorg-video-fbdev packet | 12:32 |
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| theplic | hi all | 12:33 |
| ALoGeNo | maybe you can serch it or install it with yum | 12:33 |
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| mauro | ALoGeNo, but why in live is ok and in install mode no? | 12:33 |
| ALoGeNo | hi theplic | 12:33 |
| theplic | hi ALoGeNo | 12:33 |
| ALoGeNo | i dunno but the live cd's are more automatizated | 12:34 |
| theplic | do you anything about what kind of libraries we can use for meego app development? | 12:34 |
| mauro | ok, module loaded | 12:34 |
| ALoGeNo | when you install an OS you need to configure | 12:34 |
| ALoGeNo | less ubuntu | 12:34 |
| ALoGeNo | XD | 12:34 |
| ALoGeNo | mauro, try to start the X server and if that dont work, reinstall the fvdev xserver | 12:36 |
| ALoGeNo | if that work add line in etc/modules puting the name of the module fbdev | 12:37 |
| mauro | ok ALoGeNo | 12:37 |
| ALoGeNo | and restart | 12:37 |
| mauro | but i choose install mode | 12:37 |
| ALoGeNo | okey | 12:37 |
| mauro | or can i install olso from livecd? | 12:37 |
| ALoGeNo | nop | 12:38 |
| ALoGeNo | if you do modprobe and dont say nothing the module is loaded | 12:38 |
| ALoGeNo | you can see if that is it with lsmod | 12:38 |
| mauro | ah: i cannt access shell in install mode | 12:38 |
| ALoGeNo | if that is loaded add do that echo fbdev >/etc/modules | 12:39 |
| ALoGeNo | ohh | 12:39 |
| ALoGeNo | maybe you have safe mode | 12:39 |
| ALoGeNo | boot in safe mode | 12:40 |
| mauro | ALoGeNo, i'm trying to install from usb, the only 3 choose are: | 12:40 |
| mauro | livecd | 12:40 |
| mauro | install mode | 12:40 |
| mauro | hard disk | 12:41 |
| mauro | with live cd i can access 5 console (other xterm) | 12:41 |
| ALoGeNo | sorry but im involved with armel stuff that is not like in pc x86 stuff.. :) | 12:41 |
| ALoGeNo | i dont was try the livecd distro | 12:41 |
| mauro | oh | 12:41 |
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| ALoGeNo | ColKilkenny, i think that is with x86 but i dont remember | 12:42 |
| mauro | is there an other method with meego? | 12:42 |
| ALoGeNo | hum... | 12:43 |
| ALoGeNo | to boot from USB? | 12:43 |
| ALoGeNo | another method of what? | 12:43 |
| mauro | of install to eeepc, | 12:44 |
| mauro | without xserver i mean | 12:44 |
| mauro | in the debian style or slackware | 12:44 |
| ALoGeNo | you know if that run with grub? | 12:44 |
| mauro | yes is grub | 12:45 |
| ALoGeNo | if yes, you can edit the boot parameters | 12:45 |
| ALoGeNo | there you maybe set some safe mode stuff | 12:45 |
| ALoGeNo | mauro, you have this fault? | 12:47 |
| ALoGeNo | hey is any way of deativate startup_progress from the boot init? | 12:47 |
| ALoGeNo | sorry paste wrong | 12:47 |
| ALoGeNo | xd | 12:47 |
| ALoGeNo | Installation completes using ext3 as / however X won't start... INIT: Id "x" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes.. | 12:47 |
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| ALoGeNo | mauro, are you there? | 12:49 |
| mauro | ...no i see step findrootparts | 12:49 |
| mauro | (ops i'm here) | 12:49 |
| ALoGeNo | wait.. you can install the whole OS and lather X dont run? | 12:49 |
| mauro | does not exist | 12:49 |
| ALoGeNo | or that fault in X at the beggining? | 12:49 |
| mauro | no, i cannot access the graphical interface for installing | 12:50 |
| ALoGeNo | oh... | 12:50 |
| ALoGeNo | well you can clone it.. | 12:50 |
| ALoGeNo | i mean.. | 12:50 |
| mauro | ok you are in my mind | 12:51 |
| ALoGeNo | you can boot the live cd, look for the main /rootfs cp -av all in any folder and lather mount | 12:51 |
| mauro | ok, i try this!!! | 12:51 |
| ALoGeNo | you know what i mean? | 12:51 |
| ALoGeNo | maybe you can maintain you proper config or state from livecd :) | 12:52 |
| ALoGeNo | in this way i mean :) | 12:52 |
| mauro | i think yes, have i to chroot or no? | 12:53 |
| ALoGeNo | but isnt sure | 12:53 |
| ALoGeNo | but in this way you have the whole system installed | 12:53 |
| ALoGeNo | i have to check.. | 12:53 |
| lcuk | mauro, is your version of eeepc on the supported devices list, and did it work happily when you used it in liveusb mode? | 12:54 |
| mauro | lcuk, yes it is and it works well | 12:56 |
| lcuk | ok so now you are having issues only after you have copied to hard disk? | 12:58 |
| mauro | no, i can't install because the fist screen (welcome) appear but the button NEXT doesn't work, | 12:59 |
| mauro | in the 5 console i saw an error in the xserver: can't load module fbdev | 13:00 |
| mauro | and in the 2 console more warning that say " step `somewhat': does not exist (or any of similar) | 13:01 |
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| ALoGeNo | mauro here is a way.. | 13:02 |
| ALoGeNo | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-from-scratch-13/boot-lfs-livecd-from-hard-disk-612890/ | 13:02 |
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| mauro | ALoGeNo, ok, i read and i think it is possible, but every time i have the live, | 13:09 |
| mauro | witouth savings of installed packeges ... | 13:09 |
| mauro | etc.. | 13:09 |
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| mauro | Ahhh: if i press next button , in the first console it says: | 13:13 |
| mauro | mount: / not mounted, or bad option: | 13:13 |
| mauro | the only difference in livr mode and install mode is: | 13:13 |
| mauro | adding liveinst nosplash 4 at the end of "live command line" | 13:14 |
| mauro | now i tried to boot with liveinst instead of liveimg | 13:16 |
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| theplic | does anyone how to use external libraries while developing an application for meego? | 13:17 |
| mauro | and the welcome screen appeared but with forward instead of next | 13:17 |
| mauro | YYYYEEEEEESSSSSS it works!! | 13:18 |
| mauro | ....perphaps | 13:18 |
| ALoGeNo | lol | 13:20 |
| ALoGeNo | mauro in any case.. | 13:20 |
| mauro | :-(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( | 13:20 |
| ALoGeNo | try this, in grub after the last parameter in kernel line, set video=vga | 13:20 |
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| ALoGeNo | and ctrl+x to bot or b | 13:21 |
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| ALoGeNo | iwas read that you can boot fedora Install with basic video driver | 13:21 |
| * araujo writing a small scripting *lightweight* language | 13:24 | |
| mosty | theplic, build/install the external library first, then continue as normal? | 13:25 |
| thiago_home | araujo: assembly? | 13:26 |
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| Khertan_Home | renato, pong | 13:27 |
| araujo | thiago_home, not really, i am using objc ... with objfw ... a new portable library | 13:28 |
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| theplic | mosty: how do i install it in my xephyr dev environment? | 13:31 |
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| mosty | theplic, enter the chroot, and install it from the command line. or open a terminal in xephyr if you must | 13:35 |
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| mauro | ME STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the problem was that the module of meego doesn't support click on touchpad, | 14:13 |
| mauro | i tried clicking on button or with enter and now i'm installing :-((( | 14:13 |
| mauro | sorry sorry sorry | 14:14 |
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| Ami2489 | Hey | 15:37 |
| Ami2489 | Hi | 15:37 |
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| theplic | mosty: are you here? | 15:41 |
| mosty | yes | 15:42 |
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| Stskeeps | morn andre__ | 15:50 |
| andre__ | heja. :) | 15:51 |
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| spurvewt|h | hello, how i can mount my reiserfs partition from meego terminal?.. or where i can find some reiserfs utils for installing? | 16:21 |
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| CosmoHill | you'd mount it like any other linux distro | 16:22 |
| theplic | is there anyone here who can tell me how i can use pyqt in xephyr? | 16:22 |
| CosmoHill | if it fails it means the kernel doesn't support that FS | 16:22 |
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| theplic | hi CosmoHill | 16:23 |
| CosmoHill | hey theplic | 16:23 |
| theplic | can i bother you with some newb questions? | 16:23 |
| CosmoHill | if it's the one I've just read from you, no | 16:23 |
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| theplic | well can you atleast tell me how i can install stuff in my xephyr environment? | 16:24 |
| CosmoHill | via zypper from the terminal | 16:24 |
| theplic | ok | 16:24 |
| spurvewt|h | CosmoHill, yes, i have 'unknown filesystem..' :/ | 16:24 |
| theplic | thanks ill try that | 16:24 |
| CosmoHill | spurvewt|h: check bugs.meego.com | 16:24 |
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| CosmoHill | lcuk: if you do LFS the support channel is very good even if it's a bit floppy hands | 16:31 |
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| spurvewt|h | CosmoHill, it seems there's nothing about reiser or i'm looking bad.. | 16:33 |
| CosmoHill | you can either file a bug or look harder | 16:33 |
| CosmoHill | I'd go for the former | 16:33 |
| CosmoHill | as far there is no EXT4, NTFS or the thing you just said support | 16:33 |
| spurvewt|h | ok, thanks :) | 16:34 |
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| MrCase | not sure how to ask it, so maybe i'll just do it: i want to develop a small app for my n900, but seeing how there is a general lack of quality applications on the n900/maemo i am wondering if i should go the meego route. will meego be supported somehow on the n900? | 17:18 |
| thiago_home | meego already runs on the n900 | 17:18 |
| thiago_home | but you run it on the n900 on your own risk. Nokia will not recommend it. | 17:19 |
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| CosmoHill | meego also supports netbooks so it would have a wider range of devices than maemo | 17:20 |
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| MrCase | thiago_home: how good does it run? i find maemo lacking in almost every aspect. today i had to restart the device in order to connect via UTMS. sometimes when i end calls the media player starts playing loudly (wasn't even running before). can one use meego on n900 for phone, web browsing, googletalk, skype, SMS? | 17:23 |
| MrCase | CosmoHill: that is what i think too. | 17:23 |
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| mosty | MrCase, meego is much buggier on n900 than maemo | 17:24 |
| thiago_home | MrCase: I use Maemo5 every day on my N900 | 17:24 |
| thiago_home | web browsing, phone, skype, SMS | 17:25 |
| thiago_home | and the occasional media player while on flights | 17:25 |
| GAN900 | MrCase, no. | 17:25 |
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| MrCase | thiago: yeah, that works all for me too. with the occasional hiccup and lack of apps. | 17:27 |
| sivang | thiago_home: I like using the python based zoutube for on the road unpredicted choice of music :) | 17:28 |
| RST38h | thiago: Quick question: can I use QTimers without having to use Qt signal/slot system? | 17:28 |
| mosty | RST38h, don't think so, what's wrong with signals/slots? | 17:30 |
| MrCase | for interoperability between maemo and meego, should i just focus on developing Qt? | 17:30 |
| MrCase | *with Qt | 17:30 |
| thiago_home | as a recommendation? yes | 17:30 |
| thiago_home | as a necessity? no. Both are X11, so you can run anything you'd want | 17:31 |
| MrCase | roger. thanks. | 17:31 |
| RST38h | mosty: they do not work | 17:32 |
| mosty | RST38h, they work for me. you probably have an error in your code | 17:32 |
| RST38h | Using Q_OBJECT at the start of the class definition bring up "no vtable" errors that I can only fix by moving constructor and destructor into the .h file | 17:32 |
| mosty | RST38h, are you sure that you have defined all the required methods? | 17:33 |
| RST38h | Yes. | 17:33 |
| RST38h | And as I said, moving them to .h removes the errors | 17:33 |
| mosty | and you're running moc correctly? | 17:34 |
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| RST38h | No idea. When I try running it standalone, it says that the binary is not found | 17:35 |
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| RST38h | which is strange given that the binary is there | 17:35 |
| RST38h | Custom build tools really really suck =( | 17:35 |
| mosty | are you using make directly, or generating makefiles with qmake? | 17:36 |
| RST38h | qmake does not work for me, there is a bug there that is probably too difficult to fix so they do not | 17:38 |
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| RST38h | And, again, makefiles have nothing to do with the message I get when I try running moc from command line | 17:38 |
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| RST38h | as I said, custom build tools are...mmm...fun | 17:39 |
| mosty | qt does love to add wrappers to things | 17:39 |
| mosty | it's highly likely that you're not using moc correctly. if i were you i would investigate that- it will probably fix your vtable problem | 17:40 |
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| RST38h | Let me demonstrate: | 17:41 |
| RST38h | moc: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), | 17:41 |
| RST38h | bash: ./moc: No such file or directory | 17:42 |
| RST38h | So, 'file' says it is a proper executable binary but when I run it, it says there is no such file | 17:42 |
| Stskeeps | what sb target? | 17:43 |
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| mosty | RST38h, try "strace ./moc" - you probably have missing libs, or haven't set LD_LIBRARY_PATH | 17:43 |
| mosty | and "ldd ./moc" | 17:44 |
| sivang | mosty: what could happen to make you need to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH ? | 17:44 |
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| RST38h | Stskeeps; fremantle/armel | 17:48 |
| RST38h | Stskeeps: but this executable does not run even outside the scratchbox. Same error. | 17:49 |
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| * RST38h sighs and installs native Ubuntu10 tools | 17:54 | |
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| RST38h | Maybe I can somehow make them run inside scratchbox or do some other hack | 17:55 |
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| mosty | sivang, if you compiled qt and installed it somewhere unusual, and didn't add it to your ld.so.conf | 18:05 |
| mosty | usually when i get unexpected "file not found" errors, it turns out to be either a missing interpreter or a missing shared library | 18:05 |
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| ircmasterman | http://bit.ly/c6bASW | 18:40 |
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| CosmoHill | I can't read German | 18:41 |
| ircmasterman | doesnt matter^^ its a counter...thx for the click | 18:42 |
| CosmoHill | oh you bastard | 18:42 |
| wmarone | go go noscript | 18:43 |
| ircmasterman | think before clicking! | 18:43 |
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| CosmoHill | I have ad blocker installed | 18:44 |
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| theplic | lol | 18:45 |
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| theplic | that was nasty | 18:45 |
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| theplic | hi in the repo (that zypper uses) theres xmlrpc-c-devel but not the c++ development package | 18:48 |
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| theplic | ^^chuck that | 18:50 |
| CosmoHill | this makes me feel better: 16:50:01 up 300 days, 17:20, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | 18:53 |
| CosmoHill | mwhahah | 18:53 |
| lcuk | CosmoHill, i don't really have a hankering to build LFS, but I tihnk MFS would be cool to try | 18:55 |
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| CosmoHill | :) | 18:55 |
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| RST38h | Mhm... Ok, looks like I know why it does not like the moc binary | 19:09 |
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| RST38h | It has been compiled for Linux 2.2.x | 19:09 |
| RST38h | This machine is 2.6.x | 19:09 |
| RST38h | And the moc installed as part of the Ubuntu10 Qt package does work | 19:10 |
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| * RST38h found another gaping hole in MOC, right after finding one in QMake | 19:41 | |
| * RST38h now wonders if Qt has ever been used in any large scale commercial projects: its tools look like they have come from someone's college project | 19:42 | |
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| Stskeeps | RST38h: i am wondering why you try to run a x86 binary in a sb armel target though | 19:43 |
| RST38h | Stskeeps: SB is a mixed environment, it runs both x86 and armel binaries | 19:43 |
| RST38h | Stskeeps: SB2 at least | 19:44 |
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| Stskeeps | yes, but only if their ld-linux.so.* is there | 19:44 |
| Stskeeps | that's why it says "no such file or directory" | 19:44 |
| RST38h | Stskeeps: Now, the problem was that Fremantle qt package comes with x86 MOC compiled for Linux 2.2.x | 19:44 |
| Stskeeps | shouldn't be a problem | 19:44 |
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| RST38h | Stskeeps: Once I replaced it with Ubuntu's own MOC, it started working | 19:44 |
| Stskeeps | (afaik) | 19:44 |
| Stskeeps | either way, i'm going back to banging my head against the fennec build process | 19:45 |
| Stskeeps | so infinitely more insane | 19:45 |
| johnx | RST38h, meego seems to be a large commercial project based on Qt :D | 19:45 |
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| RST38h | Stskeeps: Anyways, I am not paid to analyze or fix Qt packaging, let Qt people do that | 19:45 |
| RST38h | Stskeeps: I have found a much worse hole though | 19:46 |
| johnx | Stskeeps, and you're building for a 'supported' architecture :) imagine building for one that isn't ... | 19:46 |
| RST38h | johnx: Well, then Meego developers are in for trouble | 19:46 |
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| johnx | RST38h, ok | 19:46 |
| CosmoHill | lcuk: just starting LFS (I figure best to do LFS first before trying MFS) | 19:46 |
| Stskeeps | RST38h: scratchbox isn't exactly the most modern devel environment :P | 19:46 |
| ScottishDuck | meego on hppa | 19:46 |
| CosmoHill | I'm loving the way VMware Workstaion is randomly freezing | 19:47 |
| johnx | CosmoHill, not enough RAM? | 19:47 |
| CosmoHill | laptop has 4GB | 19:47 |
| johnx | and your VM has ... ? | 19:47 |
| CosmoHill | 512MB | 19:47 |
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| johnx | reboot the VM. sometimes they just get wedged | 19:48 |
| CosmoHill | I think I'll reboot into init 3 | 19:48 |
| CosmoHill | then ssh backdoor into it | 19:48 |
| johnx | also, I dearly hope you had someone else give you the vmware license and didn't pay for it directly :) | 19:48 |
| CosmoHill | I get it for one year as a student | 19:48 |
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| RST38h | Stskeeps,johnx: Anyway, hre is the story: | 19:52 |
| Stskeeps | RST38h: first off - is it maemo or meego, i'm confused? | 19:53 |
| RST38h | When MOC takes a header file to process, that header may include parts that are only relevant in C++ mode or C mode | 19:53 |
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| RST38h | Stskeeps: It is plain Qt in Fremantle | 19:53 |
| RST38h | Stskeeps: And the distinction does not make any difference because the share the same tools | 19:54 |
| Stskeeps | fair enough | 19:54 |
| RST38h | Sooo, if you have got a header with parts that only get included in C++, MOC will ignore these parts | 19:54 |
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| Purti | I am trying to install MeeGo SDK with Xephyr on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS | 20:06 |
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| Purti | the host machine is intel. I am using Oracle VM ware and ubuntu shows the VGA controller as VGA compatible controller: InnoTek Systemberatung GmbH VirtualBox Graphics Adapter | 20:07 |
| Purti | question is can i install Meego SDK with Xephyr | 20:08 |
| Purti | ? | 20:08 |
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| RST38h | Ahahaha, a new problem | 20:12 |
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| RST38h | When you derive your class from two Qt classes and run it through MOC, the result will not compile | 20:13 |
| RST38h | GCC will, naturally, complain about QObject being an ambiguous base | 20:13 |
| RST38h | Ok, I am afraid Qt signals/slots are a no-go, plan B. | 20:14 |
| th3hate | Stskeeps, ping | 20:15 |
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| th3hate | what's the difference between acceptance image and normal image? | 20:17 |
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| CosmoHill | how do I install a group / pattern with zypper? | 20:17 |
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| sivang | th3hate: maybe acceptance image has got to have all the required compoenents for proper testing before release? | 20:19 |
| sivang | th3hate: e.g. for integration testing, or somesuch | 20:20 |
| * sivang guesses | 20:20 | |
| * th3hate nods | 20:20 | |
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| CosmoHill | zypper install -t pattern development-tools | 20:22 |
| johnx | is there an IVI or netbook repo for ARM? | 20:23 |
| GAN900 | Not as far as I know. | 20:24 |
| johnx | same conclusion I came to | 20:24 |
| GAN900 | joy | 20:24 |
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| GAN900 | johnx, we only want Atoms in those things, silly. | 20:25 |
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| * johnx wants an ARM netbook with a pixel qi screen | 20:26 | |
| GAN900 | Don't we all. | 20:27 |
| johnx | alright, so if ARM netbook/IVI builds aren't happening for right now, is there a plan to start them later? (asking someone in the know, not just for opinions) | 20:27 |
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| GAN900 | Last discussion I heard was that, no, there wasn't a plan, as such, but it would likely happen eventually. | 20:29 |
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| GAN900 | The timeframe for which is likely dependent on vendor interest. . . . | 20:30 |
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| Stskeeps | johnx: netbook is a build issue.. there was simply too much failin | 20:31 |
| Stskeeps | g | 20:31 |
| Stskeeps | IVI is another issue and has been delayed a bit because IVI WG had to get set up and actors in place, etc.. | 20:31 |
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| johnx | alright, so if I'm interested in netbook or IVI I should put my time where my mouth is as it were :) | 20:33 |
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| * CosmoHill is getting annoyed at the random pauses | 20:39 | |
| smithna | Oh, so that's why not much action on the IVI front.... | 20:41 |
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| RST38h | Hmmm | 20:42 |
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| sofar | there's plenty happening with IVI | 20:43 |
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| sofar | except, the companies driving IVI tend to work much more behind the scenes | 20:43 |
| * smithna was basing things off of changes on the daily repo for IVI | 20:44 | |
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| RST38bis | Mhm, QTimer, in its infinite wisdom, does not contain any virtual methods called on the timer expiration | 20:45 |
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| RST38bis | So,essentially, the only way to use it through signals, and I already know how much trouble these signals are | 20:46 |
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| w00t_ | RST38bis: QObject::startTimer | 20:49 |
| smithna | sofar: Any idea when us peons might see what's going on with IVI? | 20:52 |
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| sofar | there should be another 1.1 IVI release | 20:56 |
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| RST38bis | w00t: Yes, yes, yessss!!!!! | 20:58 |
| RST38bis | w00t <-- the savior | 20:58 |
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| CosmoHill | it took me 15 mins to start building the temp tools for LFS just because when I copied the source over the LAN it come out the other wise with a different md5 | 21:02 |
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| smithna | sofar: I look forward to it... | 21:10 |
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| Stskeeps | evening fatalsaint | 21:10 |
| FatalSaint | Afternoon Sts | 21:11 |
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| Stskeeps | fatalsaint, saw latest post in n900 thread? | 21:11 |
| FatalSaint | meego forums? | 21:12 |
| FatalSaint | no dont think so.. i'll go check | 21:12 |
| stephg | FatalSaint: you will like! | 21:13 |
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| FatalSaint | redistributable binaries finally? awesomeness! | 21:14 |
| Stskeeps | and call audio | 21:14 |
| FatalSaint | SIM without PIN.. what specifically is that? | 21:14 |
| stephg | a SIM without a passnumber | 21:15 |
| FatalSaint | How do you know if you have one? | 21:15 |
| stephg | on your n900 do you have to enter 2 numbers at boot | 21:15 |
| Stskeeps | devices ask you on startup for a PIN | 21:15 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:15 |
| FatalSaint | lol | 21:15 |
| CosmoHill | that reminds me I need to set my pin | 21:15 |
| FatalSaint | Alrighty then.. guess that means I don't have one. | 21:15 |
| CosmoHill | crap, it's already set but I didn't set it | 21:16 |
| stephg | Cosmo what is your device? | 21:16 |
| RST38bis | Nice vertically scrolled list of settings = QScrollArea? =) | 21:16 |
| CosmoHill | nokia 6220c | 21:17 |
| stephg | actually scratch that, you only have 3 attempts at your pin | 21:17 |
| stephg | then you have to talk to your provider | 21:17 |
| FatalSaint | Skeeps: What are we hoping the final status will be at the 1.1 release in october? | 21:17 |
| CosmoHill | it says last attempt :o | 21:17 |
| CosmoHill | so I just press cancel | 21:17 |
| stephg | do you depend on your phone :) | 21:17 |
| CosmoHill | I mean I can use the phone normally, I just can't set the pin | 21:18 |
| stephg | something doesn't add up | 21:18 |
| stephg | I mean, if you don't know what the pin is, what happens when you bounce your phone | 21:18 |
| CosmoHill | bounce? | 21:18 |
| stephg | restart | 21:18 |
| CosmoHill | it's set so it doesn't ask you for the pin | 21:19 |
| CosmoHill | I think I can enable pin on boot but I can't change the pin code | 21:19 |
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| stephg | you can probably add a device lock to your device (unrelated to the SIM PIN) | 21:21 |
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| CosmoHill | oh yes it's the device pin | 21:21 |
| CosmoHill | the sim doesn't have one | 21:21 |
| stephg | that makes more sense | 21:22 |
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| RST38bis | Ah, it shows the config page perfeclty now! | 21:24 |
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| CosmoHill | luck: I think i might be able to used an unmodified version of the LFS temp tools to build meego | 21:29 |
| CosmoHill | as in I just need to add things like rpm and it's deps to the temp tools instead of changing the software versions and configurations | 21:29 |
| CosmoHill | you'd then install the versions of the software by hand up until the part where you need to adjust the tool chain | 21:30 |
| CosmoHill | from then you should be able to compile meego src.rpm files in theory | 21:31 |
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| apexi200sx | does anyone know of when any meego devices re being released | 21:39 |
| CosmoHill | yes | 21:39 |
| CosmoHill | (I'm not one of them) | 21:40 |
| sofar | I need to make a robot trigger a disclaimer when someone uses the word "when" | 21:40 |
| sofar | :) | 21:40 |
| stephg | ha | 21:40 |
| sofar | apexi200sx: YES people know NO they cannot tell you | 21:41 |
| CosmoHill | sofar: something that shouts "Never!" | 21:41 |
| johnx | sofar, when will you get around to writing that? /ducks | 21:45 |
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| stephg | someone needs to open a bug! | 21:46 |
| sofar | haha, yeah, file a bugzilla :) | 21:46 |
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| stephg | dd this to that bla bla bla I can't wait for the day that we can decimate the n900 image | 21:54 |
| stephg | 2gb takes sooooooooo long | 21:54 |
| CosmoHill | btyesize? | 21:55 |
| stephg | 1946157057 bytes (1.9 GB) copied, 294.858 s, 6.6 MB/s | 21:55 |
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| stephg | I'm only moaning | 21:57 |
| stephg | ignore me | 21:57 |
| johnx | think he means you might do better with different dd settings :) | 21:57 |
| stephg | oh I see well nah 4k it is I guess for it is SD :( | 21:57 |
| bef0rd | 4k? i do bs=4M for my uSD and it seems to work ok | 21:58 |
| johnx | actually, I forgot what I'm getting out of my "class 6" card, but it certainly isn't 6.6MB/s ... | 21:58 |
| * stephg eats his words | 21:59 | |
| sofar | btrfs with compression will make the images about half the size | 22:00 |
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| stephg | sofar: yeah I know, and obv all the verticals images have the kitchen sink pulled in by default for testing | 22:03 |
| sofar | there should still be normal images around | 22:10 |
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