| lbt | hey Khertan_N130 | 00:00 |
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| Khertan_N130 | does qt lib on the community obs are really build static | 00:01 |
| Khertan_N130 | ? | 00:01 |
| lbt | sounds unlikely. It is a direct import from MeeGo. | 00:01 |
| Khertan_N130 | Error: Qt has been built as static libraries so either the -g or -k argument should be used. | 00:01 |
| Khertan_N130 | this is the error i got when trying to build pyqt | 00:02 |
| lbt | too specific for me... thiago_home may know | 00:02 |
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| Khertan_N130 | :) | 00:02 |
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| * wmarone chuckles at engadget | 00:14 | |
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| __key__ | sup fellows? | 00:15 |
| lbt | sod off | 00:15 |
| __key__ | what's poppin? | 00:15 |
| * __key__ waits | 00:15 | |
| __key__ | bah | 00:16 |
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| thiago_home | Khertan_N130: it's definitely not static | 00:17 |
| thiago_home | and I don't know anything about pyqt | 00:17 |
| Khertan_N130 | ;) | 00:18 |
| Khertan_N130 | ok i got my answer don't know why pyqt think it s static | 00:19 |
| thiago_home | read its source to see why it concluded that | 00:20 |
| Khertan_N130 | yep .... what i m currently doing :à | 00:21 |
| Khertan_N130 | :) | 00:21 |
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| * marnanel is attempting to build one of the MeeGo libraries. cmake is saying to me that I have to set Shiboken_DIR to the directory where the Shiboken config files are. I have done this by editing CMakeCache.txt and running "cmake ." again. This results in CMakeCache.txt being ignored and overwritten with the same broken value. What am I doing wrong? | 04:44 | |
| kfx | don't update the cache, update the value | 04:46 |
| kfx | if your shell is bash type export Shiboken_DIR="/path/to/files" | 04:46 |
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| marnanel | kfx: thanks. hm, I thought I tried that and decided I must be doing it all wrong because it made no difference. I'll try again. | 04:48 |
| kfx | ok | 04:48 |
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| marnanel | kfx: am I doing something obviously wrong here? http://pastebin.com/zLEMt7xm | 04:51 |
| kfx | ok, try export CMAKE_MODULE_PATH="$CMAKE_MODULE_PATH:/usr/lib/cmake/Shiboken-0.5.0/" | 04:52 |
| kfx | if that doesn't work I got nothin | 04:52 |
| marnanel | same error :( | 04:52 |
| marnanel | thanks anyway though | 04:52 |
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| mininessie | hey can i download the meego phone version for a laptop | 05:02 |
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| Mat_Matan | mornig | 08:46 |
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| vimuurin_ | Good morning | 09:50 |
| araujo | hi | 09:52 |
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| fanstreak | hi everyone :) | 10:26 |
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| fanstreak | I just saw that meego was ported on dell streak, how can i install it on mine? :o | 10:30 |
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| vgrade | fanstreak, MeeGo on Streak is WIP by smoku | 10:36 |
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| fanstreak | oh, so I can't do it yet ^^ | 10:37 |
| vgrade | fanstreak, look out for smoku on #meego-arm | 10:38 |
| fanstreak | ok thanks! | 10:38 |
| vgrade | and keep checking http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/MSMQSD | 10:39 |
| vgrade | two people in the team now :) | 10:40 |
| fanstreak | thanks guy, you're great ! | 10:40 |
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| vgrade | mitsutaka, welcome aboard | 10:51 |
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| mitsutaka | vgrade, Thanks. I'll more update later | 10:52 |
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| Myrtti | moin | 11:30 |
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| lbt | o/ | 11:31 |
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| frals | o/ | 11:35 |
| Myrtti | right, now what was I doing... | 11:36 |
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| vgrade | nice concept, and tune, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG3tLxEQEdg | 12:10 |
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| lcuk | vgrade, its you thats had meego on various things isnt it? | 12:11 |
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| vgrade | only, Joggler and Nexus One, oh and netbook | 12:12 |
| lcuk | how "complete" is the port and have you been submitting images and any patches back? | 12:13 |
| vgrade | http://www.youtube.com/user/vgrade100 | 12:13 |
| lcuk | sure I understand videos :P | 12:13 |
| vgrade | ports are not complete just POC ATM, I have all the info on either jogllerwiki or the QSDMSM pages | 12:14 |
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| lcuk | and the nexus one build you did, I dont see a video, does it run well on there? | 12:15 |
| vgrade | slooooooooooooow | 12:15 |
| johnx | no 3D drivers? | 12:16 |
| vgrade | yup | 12:16 |
| lcuk | this damned reliance on 3d for the core os is frustrating | 12:16 |
| Stskeeps | yes, let's all use libliqbase | 12:16 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:16 |
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| Termana | lcuk, I wonder what frustrates people more - 3D required for the Core OS, or Atom required for x86 builds? Raagggee | 12:17 |
| lcuk | getting there, at least for launcher, i might actually be able to pickup this again soon: http://liqbase.net/liq.20090102_002941.gary.scr.png | 12:18 |
| lcuk | Termana, both | 12:18 |
| johd | 3D required for the Core OS? | 12:18 |
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| johd | oh, I see | 12:19 |
| Termana | Well, technically 1) Not for the Core OS itself but for the UX profiles and 2) Technically you don't need it. But :P | 12:19 |
| townxelliot | anyone know of a decent video embedding extension for MediaWiki? at the moment this - http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EmbedVideo - looks reasonable; anyone know anything better? | 12:19 |
| townxelliot | (this is for the MeeGo wiki, btw) | 12:19 |
| lcuk | how do you build uncomposited meego then? | 12:19 |
| lcuk | i heard the WM is matchbox - there was a time that happily ran uncomposited | 12:20 |
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| Khertan_atWork | Morning all ! | 12:25 |
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| Myrtti | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH | 12:50 |
| lcuk | good morning to you as well Myrtti | 12:51 |
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| johnx | Myrtti, is there something I should see? | 12:52 |
| Myrtti | me headdesking silently, perhaps. | 12:52 |
| johnx | over something someone else said? | 12:53 |
| johnx | you sure no how to make people curious | 12:54 |
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| lcuk | Myrtti, about keirpearceys posts? | 12:56 |
| Myrtti | ... *sigh* yeah | 12:57 |
| lcuk | he posted a new one anyway which I gather is a bit cleaner in its description :P | 12:57 |
| Myrtti | sure - it would've been too much to assume that he'd edit the original... | 12:58 |
| Myrtti | 'cause you know, you CAN do it. | 12:59 |
| Myrtti | my pedantic nitpicking little soul will survive this hardship though | 12:59 |
| lcuk | but that doesnt get eyeballs on it like a new post in the meego forum :P | 12:59 |
| lcuk | speaking of which, why is it in offtopic | 12:59 |
| Myrtti | because the original didn't explicitly say it was a Meego-related job | 13:00 |
| lcuk | this one doesnt either actually, good point | 13:00 |
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| Myrtti | what I think we need is a) testing forum b) market forum and c) forum meta forum | 13:01 |
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| Myrtti | but I've not gotten around of actually officially saying it aloud | 13:02 |
| lcuk | i just use vaispy | 13:03 |
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| Khertan_atWork | lbt: sorry for recompiling again and again and again pyqt and the community obs :) | 14:30 |
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| lcuk | vgrade, do you have a home obs setup to do the rebuilding for different devices, or do you just adjust your toolkit? | 14:48 |
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| lbt | Khertan_atWork: np | 14:51 |
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| lcuk | lbt i suppose that question would also apply to you | 14:54 |
| lbt | lcuk: home obs is a complete waste of time for most people. there's almost nothing you can't do using a public OBS (provided it targets your arch in some way and you can bootstrap) | 14:55 |
| lcuk | ok lbt | 14:56 |
| lbt | it's like running a full blown exchange server at home to get a second webmail account | 14:56 |
| lcuk | so if (me/you/xyz) wanted to do some building for meego | 14:56 |
| lcuk | of system and user tools | 14:56 |
| lbt | community OBS | 14:56 |
| lcuk | they dont need obs | 14:56 |
| lcuk | hmm | 14:56 |
| lcuk | so to compile a single application for myself to test | 14:56 |
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| lcuk | i have to push to public obs | 14:57 |
| lcuk | or its all on the sdk still (similar to scratchbox) | 14:58 |
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| lcuk | http://wiki.meego.com/Getting_started_with_the_MeeGo_SDK_for_Linux | 14:59 |
| lbt | mmm so to avoid sending 100k of src to the OBS you'll download and setup a many GB obs appliance and all the distros, and spend days setting it up.... | 15:00 |
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| lcuk | lbt | 15:01 |
| lcuk | that 100kb may not be ready to be public | 15:01 |
| lcuk | look on maemo.org | 15:01 |
| ALoGeNo | morning all | 15:01 |
| lcuk | people upload to -devel once they get to a level | 15:01 |
| lbt | different purpose | 15:01 |
| lcuk | why different? | 15:02 |
| ALoGeNo | hey where i can find info about how the system loads? | 15:02 |
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| lbt | -devel is well on the way to -extras | 15:02 |
| lbt | OBS=sbox | 15:02 |
| ALoGeNo | that run init file or so? or another script like that? | 15:02 |
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| lcuk | lbt, what about someone like alterego | 15:03 |
| lcuk | who is developing a closed source pap | 15:03 |
| lbt | ? | 15:03 |
| lcuk | app | 15:03 |
| lbt | ah, SEP :) | 15:03 |
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| lbt | he can't use the OBS at all | 15:03 |
| lbt | != maemo | 15:03 |
| lbt | very interesting discussion though | 15:04 |
| lbt | we haven't yet set a policy on that | 15:04 |
| lcuk | what about someone who wants to use cathederal model development | 15:04 |
| lbt | we = you+me+everyone | 15:04 |
| lcuk | who has resources and developers to work, but wants to retain their current mechanisms and not "release" until the right time | 15:04 |
| lbt | local builds are fine | 15:05 |
| lcuk | pushing to obs and building is considered a release isnt it? | 15:05 |
| lbt | no | 15:05 |
| lbt | it's == "make" | 15:05 |
| lcuk | so builds are private and not accessible by others? | 15:05 |
| lbt | a bit like pastebin | 15:05 |
| lbt | no-one cares | 15:05 |
| lcuk | thats not private then | 15:06 |
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| lcuk | some people do | 15:06 |
| lbt | nope | 15:06 |
| lbt | yep | 15:06 |
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| lbt | local builds are private | 15:06 |
| lbt | and don't need src uploading | 15:06 |
| lcuk | local builds are still uploaded to a server though? | 15:06 |
| lcuk | hmm | 15:06 |
| lcuk | but thats not obs is it | 15:06 |
| lbt | yes | 15:06 |
| lbt | "osc build <local file>" | 15:06 |
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| lcuk | osc? | 15:07 |
| lcuk | i thought it was obs? | 15:07 |
| lbt | http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Build/Application_Building#Local_Builds | 15:07 |
| lcuk | and lbt, how does that bild if the only place with compilers is up on the web | 15:07 |
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| lcuk | build ^ | 15:08 |
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| lbt | lcuk: make more sense now? | 15:09 |
| ALoGeNo | i hate rpm based ;( | 15:11 |
| ALoGeNo | we want mer again | 15:11 |
| ALoGeNo | XD | 15:11 |
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| lbt | ALoGeNo: never look back :) | 15:11 |
| lcuk | not really, how can OBS be installed locally and work without the gb of downloads you said would be needed to do a local build | 15:12 |
| lbt | lcuk: you know about MS Exchange != MS Outlook | 15:12 |
| ALoGeNo | i dont look back i look the compatibility the flexibility... and the whole gnu material.. | 15:12 |
| CosmoHill | ALoGeNo: http://lwn.net/Articles/299483/ | 15:12 |
| CosmoHill | article about moblin's 5 second boot | 15:13 |
| lbt | lcuk: so "osc" is the client | 15:13 |
| ALoGeNo | wtching.. | 15:13 |
| CosmoHill | *reading | 15:13 |
| ALoGeNo | watching* | 15:13 |
| lbt | it talks to OBS (the server) and gets whatever is needed (chroot) | 15:13 |
| CosmoHill | but there's no video... | 15:13 |
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| lcuk | yes lbt, ok, that makes more sense then | 15:14 |
| lbt | the chroot is ~= sbox (but smaller and variable) | 15:14 |
| lbt | osc = few kb | 15:14 |
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| lcuk | and only downloads mail bodies required for the conversatio nthread you want to look at | 15:14 |
| lbt | yeah | 15:14 |
| ALoGeNo | my god, boot in 5 sec xD (i want it) | 15:15 |
| lcuk | but it still happily runs locally and would not compromise whatever local management restrictions on distribution there might be | 15:15 |
| CosmoHill | I'm interested in meego's boot and in systemd | 15:15 |
| lcuk | allowing people to build open source, closed source, bazaar and cathederal stuff as they like! | 15:15 |
| ALoGeNo | CosmoHill, me too, im trying to boot that on my htc universal :) | 15:16 |
| lbt | it would be a small abuse of the ToS to do closed src.... but I guess if it was never uploaded and built then - no biggie | 15:16 |
| ALoGeNo | but i cant understand how it loads (i mean like normal kernel init stuff and so..) | 15:17 |
| CosmoHill | I've still got to finish reading the sytsemd article | 15:17 |
| lcuk | lbt hmm | 15:17 |
| lcuk | not really ? | 15:17 |
| lcuk | but I will read the ToS | 15:17 |
| lcuk | do you have a url? | 15:17 |
| lbt | no.... you haven't written them yet :) | 15:18 |
| ALoGeNo | moblin and meego have the same structure CosmoHill ? | 15:18 |
| lbt | I'm assuming we'll base it on openSUSE ones though | 15:18 |
| lcuk | lbt hm | 15:18 |
| CosmoHill | moblin is one of the parents of meego so yes, similar | 15:19 |
| lcuk | lets read the opensuse ones and see what they say and where there might be sticking points | 15:19 |
| ALoGeNo | nice, moblin is more open than meego is, no? | 15:19 |
| CosmoHill | no, i think meego is more open the moblin | 15:19 |
| ALoGeNo | oh.. ty | 15:19 |
| CosmoHill | meego aims to be 100% open source | 15:20 |
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| CosmoHill | I'm not to sure about moblin tho | 15:20 |
| ALoGeNo | aha | 15:20 |
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| ALoGeNo | one more think, please, some place to learn abot nand image parts (i mean content and so, how that is asignated and created and so) where i can beggin | 15:23 |
| ALoGeNo | some special link? | 15:23 |
| ALoGeNo | thing* | 15:23 |
| CosmoHill | since I didn't understand the question I will say "maybe" | 15:23 |
| ALoGeNo | (sorry for my low skill of english guys | 15:24 |
| ALoGeNo | im spanish | 15:24 |
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| ALoGeNo | the question is that im familar with normal system on sd and hdd devices and dont mtd devices and flash partitions.. | 15:25 |
| ALoGeNo | i dont know how it works at all mtd device assignament on meego | 15:26 |
| ALoGeNo | how is aprticionet the nand and how the kernel boots etc.. | 15:26 |
| CosmoHill | okay firstly, Meego for netbook or Nokia n900? | 15:26 |
| ALoGeNo | partitioned* | 15:26 |
| ALoGeNo | oh, are diferent structures? | 15:27 |
| CosmoHill | netbooks are x86 with a hard drive or SSD | 15:27 |
| ALoGeNo | i mean the root and so.. | 15:27 |
| ALoGeNo | yea | 15:27 |
| ALoGeNo | but some structure folder? | 15:27 |
| CosmoHill | n900 is ARM with NAND and MMC I think | 15:27 |
| ALoGeNo | yes it is.. | 15:27 |
| CosmoHill | yes I'd imagine they are very similar | 15:27 |
| CosmoHill | however I don't have a n900 so my help in this area will be very limited | 15:28 |
| ALoGeNo | well im interest in the x86 way to do in a arm plataform :) | 15:28 |
| ALoGeNo | i dont have n900, but im interested in armel stuff CosmoHill | 15:29 |
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| ALoGeNo | maybe then its a good beggin to get meego x86 then :) | 15:29 |
| CosmoHill | I think meego is currently limited to the n900 but I think there are some private builds for the N8x0 | 15:30 |
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| lcuk | CosmoHill, and the nexus one and the joggler and other things | 15:32 |
| lcuk | and of course CosmoHill theres the aava | 15:32 |
| CosmoHill | you mean vgrade's stuff | 15:32 |
| lcuk | and all the netbook stuff | 15:32 |
| ALoGeNo | aha, CosmoHill , that isnt a problem, becose i have running mer to n900 on my htc universal armelv5 and works propelly.. | 15:32 |
| ALoGeNo | les the xserver becose that has few ram | 15:33 |
| CosmoHill | I was about to say the x86 would be easier | 15:33 |
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| ALoGeNo | maybe i can run meego too, that is my intention.. | 15:33 |
| ALoGeNo | kk thank you guys for the comments you are so kind | 15:35 |
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| CosmoHill | ALoGeNo: np | 15:38 |
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| CosmoHill | lcuk: I have a new desk picture :) | 15:56 |
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| lcuk | CosmoHill, desk? | 15:57 |
| lcuk | i thought you had a battlestation :P | 15:57 |
| CosmoHill | I have a battlestation XL now :) | 15:58 |
| lcuk | pics | 15:58 |
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| CosmoHill | as soon as I get my bluetooth working :/ | 15:58 |
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| CosmoHill | I will shoot ant first year I see on it | 16:05 |
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| CosmoHill | lcuk: http://cross-lfs.org/~cosmo/cosmo_cluster/cluster_desk.jpg | 16:07 |
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| toggles | wow, 15 windows licenses | 16:11 |
| lcuk | CosmoHill, lol | 16:11 |
| lcuk | nw, for extra credit use the meego netbook install in that cluster :P | 16:12 |
| CosmoHill | I should get extra credit purely for getting it to work | 16:12 |
| Termana | Personally I like my 15 clustered N900s better | 16:12 |
| Termana | :P | 16:12 |
| CosmoHill | only because you could have that in your coat | 16:12 |
| lcuk | :) | 16:13 |
| CosmoHill | my desk is smaller tho >.< | 16:13 |
| lcuk | 16 is better | 16:13 |
| cb | imagine when he flashes with his coat on the street | 16:13 |
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| lcuk | it would make a better display :) | 16:13 |
| CosmoHill | there are three out of shot | 16:13 |
| lcuk | running them stuck together :) | 16:14 |
| CosmoHill | cb: if you're standing behind him when he shows someone his cluster you're gonna call the police | 16:14 |
| CosmoHill | two head nodes, 16 slaves and maybe 3 that are gonna be uses for spares | 16:15 |
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| CosmoHill | hmm | 16:16 |
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| CosmoHill | if you include that cluster in the total number of computers I have I go over 30 :/ | 16:16 |
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| CosmoHill | I have 11 in my room and that's without looking under my bed | 16:17 |
| RST38h | Are you married? | 16:17 |
| CosmoHill | what do you think :p | 16:17 |
| Bostik | could be a case of separate bedrooms | 16:18 |
| CosmoHill | I've had people discribe my bedroom as a branch of currys | 16:18 |
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| RST38h | Cosmo: Either "not", or half of these computers are your wife's. | 16:18 |
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| CosmoHill | I'm single | 16:18 |
| CosmoHill | (and it's not become of the computers) | 16:18 |
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| Myrtti | We've got definitely his and hers going on in the living room | 16:21 |
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| Myrtti | my Viglen and Fonera 2 and his Mac mini and Linksys boxen | 16:21 |
| CosmoHill | i know there is at least one husband and wife in the channel | 16:22 |
| CosmoHill | Viglen :o | 16:22 |
| RST38h | You are not even sharing a router??? | 16:22 |
| Myrtti | Viglen MPC-L | 16:22 |
| CosmoHill | we had them at uni | 16:22 |
| CosmoHill | they had an arugment with the tech saying that the cluter we wanted fixed wasn't made by them | 16:22 |
| CosmoHill | to which we basically went "it says VIGLEN on the side of it, would you like to see a picture?" | 16:23 |
| Myrtti | RST38h: we are, it's the wifi boxes that are separate. Well, the problem is that the wifi boxes seem to crap out quite often, so having two on is great to make sure there's atleast some wireless connectivity in the house | 16:23 |
| * Stskeeps has two wifi's too | 16:23 | |
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| RST38h | Our DI-624 worked for 5+ years now, without a hitch. Even survived the power spike. | 16:24 |
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| Myrtti | the 2G/3G signal here is really horrible | 16:24 |
| Tm_T | I have two too, both broken currently, so dreaming of third one (:) | 16:24 |
| CosmoHill | the only problem with our netgear is the ADSL modem part | 16:24 |
| lcuk | Myrtti, do you use locked channels, or do you let them fight it out between themselves | 16:24 |
| Myrtti | lcuk: locked ones | 16:25 |
| RST38h | Macs do not seem to like certain WiFi routers though | 16:26 |
| CosmoHill | we're had so many problems with wireless | 16:26 |
| CosmoHill | all caused by cheap cards | 16:26 |
| RST38h | Unless it is AirPort, there are no warranties it will work at all, it seems | 16:26 |
| CosmoHill | RST38h: I've seen a router that went "not mac compatable" :/ | 16:26 |
| Myrtti | well we've got macs, windows, linux, nexus ones and they all seem to be having difficulties | 16:27 |
| CosmoHill | I mean it's either 802.11g compiant or it's not | 16:27 |
| RST38h | Cosmo: Weird crap, really. One would expect Macs to use exactly the same hardware and standard WiFi drivers from BSD | 16:27 |
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| Myrtti | should really do a total IT infrastructure overhaul | 16:27 |
| CosmoHill | my mac just will not connect to my friends Dlink router | 16:27 |
| Myrtti | was just looking at lackracks | 16:27 |
| CosmoHill | it also can never remember the password for mum's friends house | 16:28 |
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| CosmoHill | we replaced mum's wifi card with a linksys router working as a wireless bridge | 16:28 |
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| CosmoHill | oddly enough her ping / latency has decreased | 16:30 |
| CosmoHill | Myrtti: wow only £5 | 16:32 |
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| Myrtti | yup, it's ridiculously cheap | 16:34 |
| * CosmoHill looks at the mess that is his home made cupbouard thingy | 16:35 | |
| CosmoHill | should I be worried that my workbench is held together purely by weight | 16:35 |
| Myrtti | too bad we don't actually have any rackservers :-D | 16:35 |
| CosmoHill | details details | 16:36 |
| * w00t_ headdesks at the latest mail about bugtrackers and goes to get coffee | 16:36 | |
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| CosmoHill | .o/ | 16:39 |
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| zumbi | hi! is the patch that makes finding usbstorage devices in less than 5s available somewhere? TIA | 16:43 |
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| Khertan_atWork | lbt: maybe you can help me with the meego qt build :) | 16:50 |
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| lbt | Khertan_atWork: not at the moment... l8r | 16:50 |
| Khertan_atWork | it s seems that neither QT_SHARED nor QT_DLL is defined in the Qt build of the community obs | 16:50 |
| Khertan_atWork | lbt: there is no urgency :) | 16:50 |
| Khertan_atWork | can answer later ;) | 16:50 |
| Khertan_atWork | (or no answer at all) | 16:51 |
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| Khertan_atWork | someone have access to the official meego obs where qt are built i m looking for the symbol which are define for the meego build | 17:02 |
| Khertan_atWork | as QT_Shared or QT_DLL isn't define | 17:02 |
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| vgrade_ | lcuk, did you get the OBS stuff straight? | 18:18 |
| vgrade_ | lcuk, I have an account on meamo OBS and do builds on that | 18:19 |
| lcuk | vgrade_, have a cleared picture of it thanks | 18:19 |
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| vgrade_ | lcuk, I have used the osc build command sucessfully for x86 but still have an outstanding issue building for arm | 18:19 |
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| lcuk | i am interested in the OSC local client configuration though, since whilst the OS will have open components and building on the cloud may be quicker, having a streamlined localised variation with similar results is desirable | 18:20 |
| lcuk | ahh vgrade_ which issue is this then | 18:20 |
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| vgrade_ | lcuk, I'm on a client site atm with no acess to my dev machine, I will ping you later with the details | 18:25 |
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| vgrade_ | lcuk, something to do with can't find sh when processing arm-bash-static or some such message while buiding the build environment | 18:26 |
| lcuk | vgrade_, no prob, I haven't set anything up myself yet, I am just interested since you obviously have some of the steps in place for much wider cross building :) | 18:26 |
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| CosmoHill | if I had wifi and ssh on my phone I wouldn't need to use a laptop at uni :o | 18:26 |
| lcuk | have you filed bug about it or discussed? | 18:26 |
| vgrade_ | lcuk, same spec file works OK on the OBS | 18:27 |
| lcuk | thats good | 18:27 |
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| vgrade_ | lcuk, I noticed that harbaum posted the same error on -arm but when I asked him, he had not resolved it | 18:28 |
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| lcuk | ahh reasonable enough, well when you get in a position to run over it and log stuff, it might be an idea to file a bug and get harbaum to as well | 18:29 |
| vgrade_ | lcuk, I guess its probably host distro related or I'm missing some cross tools | 18:29 |
| lcuk | heh | 18:31 |
| lcuk | its shocking that OBS - a tool designed for cross platform/multi distro building may have issues depending on platform its run on ;) | 18:31 |
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| under | Hi \o/ | 18:32 |
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| CosmoHill | hello | 18:33 |
| under | can I use unetbootin to put meego on the pen drive? | 18:34 |
| fcrozat | use dd | 18:34 |
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| fcrozat | meego iso image are hybrid | 18:34 |
| fcrozat | just dump them to an usb key | 18:34 |
| under | fcrozat: I'm on windows | 18:34 |
| fcrozat | there is dd.exe :) | 18:35 |
| CosmoHill | you can either look for "dd for windows" or if you'd like to burn it to DVD change the image extention to .iso and burn that | 18:35 |
| vgrade_ | lcuk, found it, http://pastie.org/1097536 | 18:35 |
| under | dvd? meego is for netbooks | 18:35 |
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| CosmoHill | vgrade with tail: I see those errors on LFS, they're normally caused by them being the wrong binary (64 on a 32 system) or by being linked to a file that isn't there | 18:37 |
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| CosmoHill | of course they could just be missing | 18:37 |
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| lcuk | vgrade_, and based on that, I think harbaum potentially got sorted with this: | 18:40 |
| lcuk | http://trac.tspre.org/merbot/freenode/%23meego-arm/log.08-17-2010.txt | 18:40 |
| lcuk | 17:49 | 18:40 |
| lcuk | ahh balls | 18:40 |
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| lcuk | but vgrade_ at the bottom of this random pastebin there is the code which highlights the message indicating the actual test done | 18:43 |
| lcuk | http://pastie.org/pastes/951752 | 18:43 |
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| vgrade_ | lcuk, yes that was my reaction when I read that log a week ago, | 18:46 |
| vgrade_ | lcuk, when I did get the rpms suggested I could not decode them | 18:47 |
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| vgrade_ | CosmoHill, they are missing on my setup at least. I will try and track them down for fc11 when I get chance | 19:00 |
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| CosmoHill | oh noes | 19:20 |
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| lbt | I hate ruby | 19:35 |
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| GAN900 | lbt, that's too bad, it only ever has good thing to say about you. | 19:40 |
| adeus | after coding fennec c++ stuff, I can only dream of ruby | 19:41 |
| wmarone | ruby... | 19:42 |
| lbt | rubygems to be specific | 19:42 |
| lbt | hey adeus | 19:43 |
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| adeus | hey lbt | 19:43 |
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| adeus | what's the problem with gems? | 19:57 |
| * thiago thinks gems are expensive | 19:58 | |
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| under | Why does the installation of Meego hang up on 'Installation of bootloader' ? | 20:12 |
| adeus | I had that problem when I tried to install it on unsupported hw | 20:14 |
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| under | help? | 20:27 |
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| sofar | what CPU does your system have? | 20:28 |
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| under | sofar: it is a NC10 | 20:33 |
| under | sofar: 1.6 GHz Intel Atom N270 | 20:33 |
| sofar | ok, that should work | 20:33 |
| sofar | I've ran meego on those actually | 20:33 |
| under | Yes, I used moblin months ago | 20:34 |
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| lcuk | CosmoHill, is linux from scratch actually like gentoo | 20:42 |
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| lcuk | and built from source, or is it the concept of new linux users | 20:42 |
| jausmus | lcuk: it's more from scratch than gentoo ;) | 20:42 |
| CosmoHill | it's build from source | 20:42 |
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| jausmus | gentoo at least gives you a package manager :) | 20:42 |
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| lcuk | CosmoHill, can you apply the same thinking to meego from scratch? | 20:42 |
| CosmoHill | i think gentoo builds the stuff for you where as with LFS you must compile the stuff yourself | 20:43 |
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| jausmus | correct | 20:43 |
| CosmoHill | lcuk I think if I build the LFS temp tool chain with the same versions as meego I might be able to use it as the base for compiling meego | 20:43 |
| lcuk | and if so, how would one start - would I be best reading and doing LFS first? | 20:43 |
| CosmoHill | jausmus: have you built LFS before? | 20:43 |
| jausmus | CosmoHill: I've read about LFS, and been a Gentoo user for far too long ;) | 20:44 |
| CosmoHill | ah okay | 20:44 |
| jausmus | since ~1.4 days | 20:44 |
| CosmoHill | lol | 20:44 |
| sofar | hah | 20:44 |
| lcuk | 1.4 days? how the hell did you manage to compile it that quick! | 20:44 |
| jausmus | heh - that came out wrong | 20:44 |
| jausmus | since the days of version 1.4 ;) | 20:45 |
| KA | hi all, I am trying to install MADDE 0.7.26 on a x86_64 debian box. trying to create from image "meego-handset-ia32-1.0.80.9.20100706.1-sdk-pre0901" mad-admin fails saying I have no meego-handset-toolchain-linux-0.1_x86. where can I find it? mad-admin fetch does not list it among aliases | 20:45 |
| lcuk | speaking of old stuff | 20:45 |
| lcuk | I am now 13001 days old | 20:45 |
| tomma | gentoo has changed a bit since 1.4 | 20:45 |
| CosmoHill | I've done LFS in about 8 hours I think | 20:46 |
| jausmus | tomma: yeah, just a little... I still (semi-)fondly recall building from stage1 | 20:46 |
| CosmoHill | probably less | 20:46 |
| lcuk | CosmoHill, you have an n900? | 20:46 |
| CosmoHill | nope | 20:46 |
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| lcuk | shame | 20:47 |
| CosmoHill | I have a nokia :) | 20:47 |
| under | Why does the installation of Meego hang up on 'Installation of bootloader' ? I checked md5sum of img and I tryed with 2 pen drives | 20:47 |
| lcuk | CosmoHill, what have you got? | 20:47 |
| CosmoHill | 6220c | 20:48 |
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| sofar | under: just for kicks, moving the mouse around when it appears to hang | 20:48 |
| under | :\ | 20:49 |
| lcuk | CosmoHill, get an n900 :P | 20:49 |
| CosmoHill | but don't they cost money? | 20:49 |
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| GAN900 | Less than they used to! | 20:51 |
| lcuk | CosmoHill, indeed they do | 20:52 |
| CosmoHill | would now be a good time to meantion I'm still on pay as you go? | 20:53 |
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| lcuk | I am | 20:53 |
| * lcuk personally thinks all corporate execs should be as well | 20:53 | |
| lcuk | so when they go abroad they see problems real people have! | 20:53 |
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| under | sofar: I set / as a ext3 fs. Can it be that? | 20:56 |
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| sofar | sure | 20:59 |
| sofar | recommended is a small ext3 /boot and the rest btrfs, swap if you care | 20:59 |
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| CosmoHill | lcuk: I'm gonna do a LFS 6.7 build soon | 21:43 |
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| Khertan_Home | LFS ? Linux From Scratch ? | 21:46 |
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| ALoGeNo | hey friends, i need some files from a real n900 from /usr/bin can any of you tarball for me please? | 21:47 |
| ALoGeNo | or /usr/bin in tarball will be okey can you please? | 21:48 |
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| ALoGeNo | anyone with n900 can help me? | 21:49 |
| Stskeeps | ALoGeNo: that sounds potentially copyright infringing | 21:50 |
| ALoGeNo | i dont wanna sale nothing Stskeeps :( | 21:50 |
| ALoGeNo | only experiment with OS | 21:51 |
| sofar | nobody except nokia can give that to you | 21:51 |
| Stskeeps | ALoGeNo: then buy a n900 :) | 21:51 |
| ALoGeNo | damn, guys that are only a files for /usr/bin :( | 21:51 |
| ALoGeNo | im poor, man, im trying to port that so to my crappy htc universal that is nothing bad :( | 21:52 |
| ALoGeNo | i dont wanna be ilegal :/ | 21:52 |
| ALoGeNo | is only debian to test :D | 21:52 |
| sofar | you can download meego n900 images | 21:52 |
| sofar | those are free to download | 21:52 |
| sofar | and have /usr/bin :) | 21:52 |
| ALoGeNo | yeah i have all that she.. | 21:52 |
| ALoGeNo | isnt the same libraries.. | 21:53 |
| ALoGeNo | or yes? | 21:53 |
| Stskeeps | ALoGeNo: htc universal is at least ARMv6 or less, N900 is ARMv7 | 21:53 |
| Stskeeps | you can't use v7 on v6 | 21:53 |
| ALoGeNo | both are armel | 21:53 |
| Stskeeps | so you're out of luck | 21:53 |
| Stskeeps | no | 21:53 |
| ALoGeNo | that runs.. | 21:53 |
| Stskeeps | maemo5 is armv7, debian is armv4t | 21:53 |
| ALoGeNo | im runing | 21:53 |
| Stskeeps | so trust me on this one, not gonna work :) | 21:54 |
| ALoGeNo | im was get running mer and neopwn on my htc universal | 21:54 |
| Stskeeps | if we had a working armv5 build, it'd be better to port that | 21:54 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:54 |
| ALoGeNo | i need maemo to get the whole neopwn ^^ | 21:54 |
| Stskeeps | heh | 21:55 |
| Stskeeps | sorry, out of luck :) | 21:55 |
| ALoGeNo | camon guys.. :D | 21:55 |
| ALoGeNo | a tar for ALo.. :D | 21:55 |
| Stskeeps | you'll be met with 'illegal instruction' | 21:55 |
| ALoGeNo | but is for test not comertial :/ | 21:55 |
| sofar | whining not appreciated | 21:55 |
| ALoGeNo | i dont go relase nothing | 21:56 |
| Stskeeps | the signal handlers of linux cares not if something is test or commercial | 21:56 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:56 |
| ALoGeNo | hehe you are with me come on :) | 21:56 |
| bunk | Stskeeps: Isn't te Unversal even armv5? | 21:56 |
| ALoGeNo | armel ! | 21:56 |
| ALoGeNo | ^^ | 21:56 |
| ALoGeNo | powa | 21:56 |
| Stskeeps | ALoGeNo: i pretty much did Mer mostly on my own (some people helped a lot), and trust me, it won't work. | 21:56 |
| Stskeeps | so i'd give up already :) | 21:57 |
| ALoGeNo | i know javer tells me :) | 21:57 |
| ALoGeNo | Javier* | 21:57 |
| ALoGeNo | well, i was used the nupgrade.sh script to dum the whole maemo firmware of the MADDE emu.. | 21:58 |
| ALoGeNo | and now.. im here.. without n900... | 21:59 |
| Stskeeps | bunk: armv5, yeah | 21:59 |
| ALoGeNo | waiting for legal stuff :/ | 21:59 |
| Stskeeps | ALoGeNo: sorry, not the place for asking :) | 21:59 |
| ALoGeNo | maybe query? | 21:59 |
| ALoGeNo | XDD | 21:59 |
| Stskeeps | and i'm trying to avoid you wasting a lot of time by saying you can't do it | 21:59 |
| ALoGeNo | lol | 21:59 |
| Stskeeps | sofar: btrfs + the reflink cp'ing is a lifesaver on n900, btw | 22:00 |
| * CosmoHill is hours away from a 300 day uptime | 22:00 | |
| ALoGeNo | im without fucking work, no job now, not money and only time to waste.. on my uni and my dreams.. | 22:00 |
| Stskeeps | sofar: system is responsive much easier on first boot | 22:00 |
| ALoGeNo | if dont work later isnt a problem | 22:00 |
| sofar | yeah :) | 22:00 |
| Stskeeps | er, earlier | 22:00 |
| ALoGeNo | y have debian working full here on my htc universal fabricated on 2005 | 22:00 |
| Stskeeps | ALoGeNo: yes, but you can't fight the chip restrictions.. there's instructions that simply won't run on your device | 22:00 |
| ALoGeNo | and with neopwn | 22:01 |
| ALoGeNo | nah... | 22:01 |
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| ALoGeNo | i need hildon.. | 22:01 |
| ALoGeNo | and i want it. | 22:01 |
| ALoGeNo | XD | 22:01 |
| Stskeeps | famous last words | 22:01 |
| Stskeeps | there's hildon in mer | 22:01 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 22:01 |
| ALoGeNo | yeah.. | 22:01 |
| ALoGeNo | but is die.. my god NOHH! | 22:01 |
| ALoGeNo | WHY?? | 22:01 |
| Stskeeps | either way | 22:01 |
| Stskeeps | let's take this discussion to #mer | 22:02 |
| Stskeeps | this has nothing to deal with meego :) | 22:02 |
| ALoGeNo | haha, you are nice people ;) | 22:02 |
| ALoGeNo | give me a tar | 22:02 |
| ALoGeNo | lol | 22:02 |
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| * sofar hands ALoGeNo a tarbal from glibc | 22:02 | |
| ALoGeNo | okey guys thank you for your support :) i know that is meego channel :) | 22:03 |
| ALoGeNo | you are so kind :) | 22:03 |
| ALoGeNo | ARRRR..! | 22:03 |
| * ALoGeNo get the tarball on air ! | 22:03 | |
| ALoGeNo | gets* | 22:03 |
| Stskeeps | ALoGeNo: the rules of freenode states no warez, so please leave it out of here - asking for copies of a closed source OS is well, warez | 22:04 |
| ALoGeNo | nono Stskeeps , dont worry man :) | 22:04 |
| ALoGeNo | i come here to learn, dont to figth.. :) | 22:05 |
| Stskeeps | good - then read up on meego.com :) | 22:05 |
| Stskeeps | and see what this system is about | 22:05 |
| ALoGeNo | if you guys say that is ilegal, thats all.. :) | 22:05 |
| ALoGeNo | dont worry, just trying luck :) | 22:06 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 22:06 |
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| sivang | warez?! :) | 22:43 |
| sivang | in here | 22:43 |
| sivang | Stskeeps: /me sighs | 22:43 |
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