IRC log of #meego for Thursday, 2010-09-23

slaineyesterday00:00
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CosmoHillblack rock00:02
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Khertan__Hi again :à00:10
Khertan__;)00:10
slainehey00:11
slainehow's the rpmdb ?00:11
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Khertan__it s fine :) i rm every things that look like a rpm db00:14
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Khertan__does libqt4-devel should not be in meego core ?00:14
Khertan__zypper search libqt4 found no package00:14
sofarsearch for qt4 instead00:15
Khertan__same00:15
Khertan__ok it s qt00:16
Khertan__and not qt400:16
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CosmoHilloh my, what a big tail you have00:17
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* sofar sees libqt-devel in the package list00:18
slainesofar: that's impossible00:18
slaineit's qt-devel00:18
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sofarslaine: well I just installed it. so it's possible.00:19
slaineye gads00:19
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* slaine is install qt-devel atm00:19
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Khertan__hum python-sip build seems to be a success in the community obs00:21
sofarslaine: what release?00:21
slaine4.6.2-4.2 is what's in the meego repo's00:21
slainebut I'm also installing 4.7 on my mac00:21
sofarnu uh, trunk has 4.7.0-rc100:22
sofaryou're on 1.0?00:22
slaineyeah00:22
slainenot tried the pre releases yet00:22
* slaine actually uses his netbook for work00:23
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slainesofar: how are the pre-releases for you ?00:24
CosmoHillslaine: I have no work and no netbook :o00:24
* slaine hands CosmoHill a bre00:24
slainew00:24
sofarslaine: I have to use that, it's what I'm coding on00:24
slainecurse these hands00:24
* CosmoHill sips00:24
sofarslaine: reasonably stable atm for netbook00:25
slainemight give it a shot next week00:25
slaineam traveling for the next 2 days and need it as it is00:25
slainethough my "work" on it mostly consists with noodling about while traveling, so bleeding edge probably isn't that big a deal00:26
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CosmoHillcyas02:10
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amjadso finally a kernel m list is up04:35
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ALoGeNohello05:06
ALoGeNohey meego use hildon-desktop no?05:07
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wmaroneno05:08
wmaroneheh05:08
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wmaronemeego contains no hildon05:08
ALoGeNoupppss..05:09
ALoGeNowich is?05:09
ALoGeNowhat windows enviropmen we have on meego?05:10
ALoGeNoopenbox? matchbox?05:10
ALoGeNosorry by my low skill of english im spanish :P05:10
wmaroneno problem05:14
wmaroneI'm not sure what window manager is in use on MeeGo05:14
wmaronehowever the primary toolkit is Qt, which is a good place to start05:15
kfxI believe the handset window manager is matchbox, but the netbook ux uses a different one iirc05:15
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__key__sup fellas06:47
* __key__ is trying to figure out what meego is06:47
__key__anybody here know ?06:47
johnxit's a linux distribution put together in collaboration between intel and nokia06:48
__key__ahh06:48
__key__for phones ?06:48
johnxfor the kinds of devices listed on this page: http://meego.com/06:48
__key__hrmm06:49
__key__*sign06:49
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__key__so, it's like a mini os06:49
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__key__for fridges ?06:49
johnxit's a linux distribution put together in collaboration between intel and nokia06:49
__key__ok06:49
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mgoddard|nokmmm, fridgeOS06:55
batCan anyone give a quick pointer on how to get an account at build server ?06:58
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johnxmgoddard|nok, I would have done the salesman shtick a little better, but I'm pretty sure that guy is the same troll who showed up here and in other channels before ...07:01
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mgoddard|nokjohnx: wouldn't surprise me :)07:03
kfx14:52 < __key__> is it an operating system for small household items ?07:05
kfx14:52 < __key__> like a cable box07:05
kfx14:52 < __key__> ??07:05
johnxfrom earlier?07:05
batjohnx, ignore the fridgeOS guy ... he's hopeless ... can you give me info on the build.meego.com OBS server ?07:08
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kfxjohnx: yeah07:11
kfxjohnx: ~3pm us central time07:12
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KubuntiacI want MeeGo on *my* fridge... :P07:13
Kubuntiac(pity my fridge doesn't have an ARM chip...)07:13
johnxbat, fraid not. I mainly hack around with packages that are already built. sorry :|07:16
batthanks for reply ...07:17
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sharmaPHI There some documentation available about building meego from source code, Till now i cud get info only about how to build meeego from rpms using mic08:56
StskeepssharmaP: that's done with an OBS, first off: why would you want to rebuild meego?08:56
slonopotamusStskeeps: your answer sounds like "no, it's dark magic"08:57
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sharmaP@stskeeps, OBS requires username and passwords, I want to set up my own local repo and build meego from there, am trying to port meego to IMX platform08:58
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StskeepssharmaP: what IMX device?08:58
StskeepssharmaP: and you can install OBS locally if you'd like08:58
sharmaP@Stskeeps imx5108:58
Stskeepsthat's ARMv7 isn't it?08:58
sharmaP@stskeeps , so can i configure it to use my sources08:59
sharmaPyes08:59
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StskeepssharmaP: you don't need to build it :) ARMv7 is already provided by repo.meego.com08:59
Stskeepsyou just need to add hardware adaptation packages08:59
slonopotamusStskeeps: you're more insisting on "that is total voodoo, use prebuilt binaries"09:00
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Stskeepsslonopotamus: do you have anything valuable to contribute? this is the way it's done in MeeGo - take a pre-built platform and build above it09:01
sharmaP@ stskeeps, yeah but our customer requires some modifications  in the source.s  tahst why m interested in setting up my own local repo n build from it...09:01
sharmaPI thinks thats the whole idea of building n open source projects09:01
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Stskeepsyes, of course - but for MeeGo compliance, you often shouldn't have to modify sources09:02
StskeepssharmaP: ok, then you'll want to look into setting up your own OBS. Keep in mind that some modifications are not MeeGo compliant09:02
StskeepssharmaP: and I would instead of rebuilding the whole thing, rebuild individual packages09:02
sharmaP@ stskeeps,, ok09:02
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sharmaP@ stskeeps u mean taking a base .img and then building over it..09:03
ZogGwhat DE or WM is used in meego, and if it's not secret which one would be used in Nokia UIX ?09:03
StskeepssharmaP: sec09:03
StskeepssharmaP: http://wiki.meego.com/MPG and discuss on meego-porting mailing list :)09:04
StskeepssharmaP: and not exactly .img, but all the prebuilt packages and a kickstart file09:05
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sharmaP@ stskeeps have tried it09:06
johnxthe kickstart file can be used to add device-specific packages and config09:06
StskeepssharmaP: ok, can you try to make your own first image with mic2?09:07
sharmaPcud create a image from the meego's prebuilt sources,,, b09:07
sharmaP@stskeeps have done it for atom and beagle board,  was looking on how to start from from building sources rather than using prebuilt binaries09:07
StskeepssharmaP: ok, so the situation is that you rarely would want to rebuild the entire thing - an ARM rebuild can take up to 3 days with ~40 workers :)09:08
StskeepssharmaP: so you would want to set up an OBS and patch individual patches09:08
Stskeepser, patch individual packages09:08
sharmaP@ stskeeps yes09:08
Stskeepsso, check out the MPG, it has instructions for setting up a OBS, i hope :)09:09
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Stskeepshttp://wiki.meego.com/MPG#Vendor.27s_own_OBS09:09
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sharmaP@stskeeps thanks for the link, hae been thru MPG , but the Vendor OBS link seems pretty interesting , hope i get somethn over there09:10
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StskeepssharmaP: please discuss on meego-porting mailing list and point out flaws and problems in instructions :)09:11
johnxZogG, it's a custom WM/DE, written in Qt, I believe09:11
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sharmaP@Stskeeps sure09:24
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StskeepssharmaP: you're also welcome to folllow #meego-arm - general principle: we don't do your homework, but we can guide you in the right direction09:25
Stskeepsand OBS stuff is best asked in #meego-dev for instance09:25
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sharmaP@Stskeeps thanks, will make sure i do my homework...09:26
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sappu[root@sapan-laptop /]# startmeego & [1] 5559 [root@sapan-laptop /]# bash: startmeego: command not found09:37
sappui want to login as meego root09:37
sappuhow to open terminal in meego root09:37
sappui was able to login previously on root@meego-netbook-sdk:09:38
sappuanybody der for help?09:39
sofarsudo su -09:39
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sappu@sofer not just su . .i want to log on to meego-notebook-sdk09:40
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JaffaYay, N900 weekly images available again :-)09:51
JaffaBut I'm about to get on a laptopless plane to Greece. No time to test :-(09:51
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KhertanError: Qt has been built as static libraries so either the -g or -k argument10:26
Khertanshould be used. <<< no pain, no gain10:26
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KhertanMorning10:38
Khertanok i got no luck trying to compile on the obs pyqt :)10:38
KhertansipQtCoreQt.cpp:957:41: error: 'WindowSoftkeysRespondHint' is not a member of 'Qt'10:38
KhertansipQtCoreQt.cpp:958:41: error: 'WindowSoftkeysVisibleHint' is not a member of 'Qt'10:38
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segobiHi. Can anyone help me install windows without being able to boot from usb or dvd ?11:00
Stskeepsthink you might be a bit off track here, this is a MeeGo channel :)11:00
segobiyeah im running meego on the wetab11:01
segobiactually11:01
segobi;)11:01
segobithats why i came in here11:01
Stskeepswell, we don't know how to install windows ;)11:01
segobihaha11:01
segobii wanted to set up some dualboot11:01
Stskeepshow's the hardware like anyway?11:01
RST38hwetab-specific forums would be the best place to ask11:02
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Stskeepssegobi: but no idea how to install windows on a wetab, you'll have to work that out yourselves11:02
segobi1gb ram, 32gb sandisk ssd, atom 1.6ghz. There are not enough wetab users right now hehe11:02
segobiI was thinking about maybe cloning a windows installation to a new partition11:02
segobior so11:02
RST38hYes, it is a PC11:02
segobiand then make it boot that11:02
RST38hBut how does it feel?11:03
segobiits heavy ;)11:03
segobithe touchscreen does not react well11:03
RST38hoh11:03
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segobiAnd I wanted to see if it runs windows better...its like a beta version to run with WeTabOS / Meego. The ExoPC looks better and its the same HW11:04
segobibut you can access the bios on the exopc..which you cant on wetab11:04
segobilol11:04
debayanI am trying to install MeeGo Netbook UX on a 4gb flash drive. It stops at the last step saying "Installing Bootloader". What could be the reason?11:04
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RST38hhow long does the battery last?11:05
segobiwhich systems rpms would be most compatible with meego ?11:05
Stskeepssegobi: is there a terminal on it? :P11:05
segobiyes11:05
segobithere is one...11:05
Stskeepsoh, that's nice11:06
segobia root console11:06
segobihow do install like openssh server on it ? I need to add some repositories ? But which one ?11:06
Stskeepscheck out /etc/yum/repos.d11:06
Stskeepsor zypper in openssh-clients11:06
Stskeepsi think11:06
segobihmm yeah which repos can i add for openssh etc ?11:07
segobiIts not available11:07
Stskeepsit depends on which ones are there already11:07
segobihttp://update.tiitoo.com/stable/1.0/additional/releases/packages/11:07
segobithis one is in11:07
segobibut thats from the wetab makers11:07
segobiand does not include openssh11:07
segobietc11:07
Myrttimoin11:07
Stskeepsyou have http://update.tiitoo.com/stable/1.0/system/releases/core/packages ?11:08
segobiyes11:09
Stskeepsthen yum install openssh-clients or openssh-server should work11:09
RST38h"Find the problem": http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/86/Autoconf.svg/220px-Autoconf.svg.png11:09
segobiits not on that server11:09
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Stskeepssure it is11:09
Stskeepslook in i586/11:09
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segobiits not11:10
segobioh it is11:10
segobisorry11:10
Stskeepshttp://update.tiitoo.com/stable/1.0/system/releases/core/packages/i586/openssh-server-5.3p1-3.6.i586.rpm11:10
segobilol11:10
Stskeeps:P11:10
segobimaybe im blind11:10
Stskeepsyou owe me a copy of 'dmesg' and /var/log/Xorg.0.log now ;)11:11
segobisure i have dmesg wait11:11
segobihttp://pastebin.com/AxSS6Jn411:11
Stskeepsit has ethernet?11:12
segobihmm no..just wlan lol...maybe through the port adapter ?11:13
Stskeepsdunno, looks like a e1000 in there to me11:13
segobinice i can ssh it now11:13
segobithx11:13
Stskeepscan i see /var/log/Xorg.0.log then? might be a nice clue to TS problem11:13
Stskeepss11:13
segobisure11:13
segobi( I have a usb keyboard connected right now) http://pastebin.com/tA4wAxKf11:14
Stskeepsthat's only contents?11:14
segobiyes11:14
Stskeepsodd11:14
segobino11:14
segobiwait11:14
segobii tailed it11:15
segobilol11:15
Stskeepsah11:15
segobiwtf11:15
segobiinstalling winscp first11:16
segobiwill up it soon11:16
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segobithere u go http://pastebin.com/x2MJXvZe11:18
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segobican extlinux or grub boot from usb instead of internal hdd ? I guess not...#11:20
segobii mean when booting frmo hdd11:20
segobiand the prompt comes up11:20
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Stskeepsyeah, i can see why the TS is crap11:20
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Stskeepshow many EUR does a wetab cost?11:21
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Stskeepssegobi: basically the xorg.0.log tells me it's not setting up the multitouch screen properly :P11:22
Stskeepseach of them has an input device, so11:22
Stskeepseach points, that is11:22
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segobiyes its not using multitouch yet11:23
segobithey said it would come with an update11:23
segobi449 eur and the better one costs 56911:24
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Stskeepssegobi: well, more like, that events from anything but one point is ignored11:25
Stskeepswhich might mean some of the touch input gets lost even with singletouch11:25
segobihmm u have a solution ?11:26
segobii might test it ;)11:26
Stskeepswell, adding proper input class to it i guess for starters11:26
segobiwhere, how11:26
Stskeepsxorg.conf.. sec11:26
Stskeepscan the SSD be taken out? :P11:27
segobihmm not without opening it..don't know how to do it yet..no visible screws...maybe someone will figure it out hwo to open it11:27
Stskeepshttp://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Input_device_configuration11:27
segobiwhere is xorg.conf on meego ?11:28
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Stskeeps /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d , add files11:31
fralsanyone knows if patrik ohly is on irc?11:31
segobino xorg.conf.d there yet11:31
Stskeepshrm11:31
Stskeepswell its a 1.0 so11:31
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segobi?11:37
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Stskeepsmeego 1.011:37
Stskeepssome things changed :P11:37
segobihuh11:37
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Stskeeps(ie, the wetab OS is baed on meego 1.0)11:37
segobiyeah it must get its xorg.conf from somewhere11:37
segobinot ?11:37
segobibut there is none11:38
segobinowehere11:38
Stskeepsautodetection11:38
Stskeepswhich is probably the problem :)11:38
segobihmm damn11:38
segobithen its a driver problem i guess11:38
segobior autodetect prob11:38
* RST38h boots the freaking mob^H^Heego11:38
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segobiim pastebinning the filesystem now11:38
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segobican the auto settings be overwritten using a custom xorg.conf ?11:39
Stskeepsor addedd to11:40
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segobidamn you stupid locked down bios11:44
Stskeepsdoes it show a normal bios?11:45
segobino11:45
Stskeepssure it's not EFI?11:45
segobiit shows nothing..dmesg says ami bios11:45
Stskeepsah11:45
segobii want it to boot from usb11:45
segobihttp://pastebin.com/v3CnpBaW11:46
segobiit would be so much more open and free with an accessible bios11:47
Stskeepscomplain about it ;)11:47
segobimaybe one could flash the exppc bios11:47
Stskeepsyou can probably grep -v /proc11:47
Stskeeps:P11:47
segobiy ?11:48
Stskeepspastebin just froze my browser11:48
Stskeeps:P11:48
segobihaha11:48
segobiyeah11:48
segobiits nasty11:48
segobimaybe they can reenable bios access...once the mbr does not work correctly anymore etc. the whol system will be fucked...or you have to open it11:50
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Stskeepsdunno11:51
Stskeeps:P11:51
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KhertanMeego Community OBS : Python-sip build :)12:18
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KhertanArg pyqt build failed again12:46
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KhertanAbout the meego OBS does the Meego Current target have up to date Qt version ?13:45
Khertani mean the community one13:45
Stskeepsat next weekly i think13:46
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faidfor Qt application development using OpenGL ES 2.0, will I need the virtualization in QEMU and the gles wrapper libraries or is it possible to set it all up in the meego chroot?14:52
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Stskeepsnot a bad question14:55
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Stskeepsfaid: think gles is still an error not completely explored in 1.115:00
Stskeepserr, area15:00
fabofaid: you need the wrapper lib and kfgles module, so I guess only QEMU15:01
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fabowhich is actually broken (mcompositor segfaults)15:02
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faidfabo: hmm ok, bummer, my workstation doesn't have VT (enabled at least, could've been switched off in BIOS) which is why I was hoping for chroot. in any case, what you're saying is that QEMU wouldn't work anyway because mcompositor segfaults?15:21
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fabofaid: yes15:27
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faidfabo: thanks15:29
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segobihow do i pxe boot from my WDS server using extlinux ? Want to start the windows installation15:39
segobitried pxechain.com but it does not work yet15:40
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KhertanSomeone know the domain name of the community repository ? i m still using the ip :)15:54
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Khertanthis is just in case pyside build is a success to say ... hay guys which are waiting pyside ... it s now available like  "ppa" in the meego community obs15:55
Khertan:)15:55
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N900hi15:59
N900anyone ?15:59
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Khertanlol hi lbt16:04
lbthi16:04
lbtstupid konversation client :)16:04
Khertanlbt, i'm currently testing the obs :)16:04
Khertanhéhé16:05
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lbtI've seen16:05
Khertan:)16:05
Khertanyou got errors ?16:05
Khertanor activity status ?16:05
lbtjust activity16:06
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Khertanlbt i ve try to build pyqt16:20
Khertanfail16:20
Khertantrying to build pyside16:20
Khertanfailed too :)16:20
lbtbuild failures?16:21
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lbtor OBS issues?16:21
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Khertanlbt some gcc toolchain errors16:24
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Khertangcc segfault16:24
Khertan:)16:24
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Stskeepsmeego.com16:25
Stskeeps:P16:25
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__key__ahha! u guys have a www site16:25
Stskeepsyes, naturally16:25
__key__well played #meego, well played16:25
Khertanlbt, but not real obs issue16:25
__key__u guys host the site on a meego box ?16:25
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__key__meego with mysql+apache+python/php ... maybe asterisk16:27
__key__meego + memcache16:27
__key__?16:27
Stskeepsdoubt it, not really a server OS16:27
Stskeeps:P16:27
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__key__lol16:29
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__key__i can't run a cluster of phones... serving dynamic pages ?16:29
Stskeepssure, if you want16:29
Khertanyou can16:29
__key__load balance my iphones...16:29
Stskeepsbut that's not the primary objective16:29
__key__ok ic16:29
__key__you guys are not pro load balancing16:30
Stskeepsserver activities usually conflicts with mobile use16:30
Stskeeps:)16:30
lbtKhertan: no, sounds like a build issue16:30
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__key__hrmm16:31
__key__maybe i am confused now16:31
__key__does meego run on sparc ?16:32
Stskeepsno16:32
__key__what ????!!!??16:32
Stskeepsatom and armv716:32
__key__o16:32
Stskeepswhat channel do you think you're in? :)16:32
__key__#meego16:32
__key__you guys are great!16:32
lbt#trolls'r'us ?16:32
Stskeepswhich is a OS by intel and nokia16:32
Stskeeps:P16:32
__key__ok, so let's summarize16:32
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__key__meego, cannot run mysql16:33
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__key__but, does it run any no-sql db's ?16:33
Stskeepssqlite?16:33
Stskeeps:P16:33
__key__YIPPIE!16:33
Stskeepsand it can, if you port it16:33
__key__me, i love sqlite16:33
__key__i think everyone should use it16:33
__key__so16:33
Stskeepsplease look at http://meego.com/devices16:33
Stskeeps:P16:33
__key__o wow16:34
__key__that page is hosted via meego+sqlite ?16:34
Stskeepsare you trolling?16:34
Stskeeps:P16:34
__key__what is this word, trolling ?16:34
Stskeepssigh16:34
Stskeeps:P16:34
__key__:P16:34
Stskeepshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%2916:34
__key__ok, good morning !  I'll be leaving now but great chating with u!16:34
lbtsounds like a bot16:35
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__key__anybody want my email to mail me ?16:35
Stskeepsplease leave your business card at the door mailbox16:35
__key__will do16:35
__key__remember16:35
__key__u guys are one of the best channels on freenode16:35
__key__peace!16:35
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* Stskeeps glares16:35
Stskeeps:P16:35
lbtnow can you block it?16:36
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sivanga very funny kind of boyt16:41
sivangbot16:41
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KhertanLOl really a bot ?17:06
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DawnFosterlbt: did you see that I created a meego-porting list? http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-porting17:07
DawnFostermight be a good place for the discussions about the non-SSSE3 stuff17:07
mauro_ciao a tutti!!  hi all!!17:08
Stskeepsmorn dawn - and already joined here as well :)17:08
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mauro_please i have a problem in installing meego v 1.0 in a eeepc 1008ha,17:08
mauro_live works greatbut installation hang up17:08
DawnFosterafternoon Stskeeps.17:08
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mauro_in the 5 console says an error " cn't load fbdev"17:09
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mauro_is there an option to install without graphical server?17:11
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Myrttiwell, today has so far been a fairly good day. My headache didn't develop to a migraine.17:53
MyrttiGot to be thankful for the small things, eh...17:53
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lbtDawnFoster: thanks.... is there a "just add me to any new meego list" option? I think a lot of us would like that :)18:02
DawnFosterlbt: nope - you have to pick the ones you want to subscribe to :)18:03
lbt*18:03
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lbtit's not the picking them that's annoying... it's the "miss the announcment"18:03
CosmoHillhey arjan18:03
lcukperhaps we need a #meego-announce ml to announce new ml things :P18:03
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nialahello18:05
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Myrttilcuk: do I sense a hint of irony in your ... text?18:07
Myrtti;-D18:07
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lcukhell no18:07
lcuklbt is right, new ones arrive often!18:08
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maurohi all18:27
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Myrttiohai18:29
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mauroplease i want to install meego v1, live works very well but in install mode it hangs18:31
mauroin an eeepc 1008ha18:31
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nialamauro, waht kind of error you have18:43
mauroin the 5 console write "can't load fbdev"18:44
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mauroin the 6th there is the first screen with the button NEXT, but it don't work18:45
mauro*doesn't18:45
maurothe strange is that in live mode works very well18:46
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CosmoHillhey thiago_home, how was work?19:59
thiago_homewas good20:01
thiago_homeworkshop most of the day20:01
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thiago_homethen trying to figure out why some people I'm supposed to meet in Helsinki might be in Portland20:02
CosmoHillI've had data structures and algorithems today which wasn't quiet what I expected. I think I may have a struggle on my hands20:02
RST38hCosmoHill: Doing complexity proofs?20:04
Bostikoooohh, that was a fun course20:04
CosmoHillwe've given problems and need to work out how to do it with the least memory and processor useage20:04
CosmoHillI tend to focus on getting it done and not caring how20:05
bef0rdThe MIT book is good20:05
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CosmoHillthanks I'll check out the library for it20:05
thiago_homeCosmoHill: what did you learn? hashing tables, vectors, linked lists?20:05
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CosmoHillwell this is my first week so we had an array list20:06
thiago_homea list of arrays?20:06
thiago_homeor a list in the form of an array?20:06
CosmoHillnope, the array is the list20:06
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thiago_homeah, right20:07
CosmoHillapproch one is that things are added and removed but everything is shuffled forward so it's in one big block20:07
CosmoHillapproch two things are added and removed but they are scatter throughout the array20:07
thiago_homeyou may want to read this: http://doc.trolltech.com/qq/qq19-containers.html20:07
CosmoHillA1 would be: 1 2 3 X X X20:07
CosmoHillA2 would be: 1 X X 2 3 X20:07
CosmoHillI shell look into it20:07
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thiago_homeQVector and QList are easy20:08
bef0rdCosmoHill, http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-046j-introduction-to-algorithms-sma-5503-fall-2005/ they have the videos of the class posted online too, this is the one we are using at our course20:08
CosmoHillcool20:09
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CosmoHillthanks for the advice, see you guys later20:13
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* Stskeeps wonders idly if he got 100+ mails in the last 4 hours.20:25
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VDVsxStskeeps, welcome to the club ;)20:28
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theplichi, i had posted in the forums regarding a xmlrpx library for meego. is anyone here who can help me to how to go about it?21:12
theplicxmlrpc*21:12
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lbtI think the UX needs a sexy name23:15
lcuklbt which one?23:15
lbthandset to start with23:15
lbtLike "Oxygen" is a theme23:16
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GAN900Sexy UX?23:16
GAN900Magnum?23:16
lbt"Vezz"23:17
lcuklol Magnum23:17
lcukthe UX that cannot turn right23:17
lcuk"I'm an ambiUX23:17
lbtMagnum sounds like it'll go bang :)23:17
lbtVezz is slippery.... like a snake's scales23:17
lcukMagnum UX requires a mustache under each window23:17
GAN900Vezz sounds like some sort of vitamin suplement.23:18
GAN900Or something you pick up while binging in Mexico.23:18
lcukVezz needs Tommy Cooper sound samples23:18
lbtKaa23:19
lbtwhy do people reply to emails and change the subject and start new threads23:20
kfxjust call it iUX23:21
kfxinstant triple sales23:21
kfxUX On Rails23:21
kfxhordes of undergraduates desperate to commit23:21
lbtmUXnb23:21
lbtnUXbUX23:21
lcukMee Go You Ex23:22
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GAN900lbt, when the subject changes and a new thread is called for?23:22
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GAN900Yeah, I dislike it too.23:22
GAN900Even though proper etiquete calls for it.23:23
lbtNo, like "Which package has QApplication" in the middle of the "Meego spec for comment" thread23:23
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* lcuk is 13000 days old today23:24
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kfxhow long before the int overflow23:26
lcukkfx, quite a while yet23:26
lbtnot long, I've seen evidence of wraparound writing garbage over everything already23:26
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lcukthats not wraparound, thats senility23:27
lbtcause, effect23:27
lcuk:D23:28
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lcuklbt, which qt flavour will be best for crossplatformyness23:28
lcukwill the qt4.6 stuff you originally did in shopper on 8x0 work for instance23:28
lbtyeah, Qt 4.x should be compatible forwards AFAIK23:29
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lcuklbt, thats providing no specific external OS APIs were used, for instance adding library references to specific non-qt components23:30
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lbtyes23:33
lcukqtmobility has afaik been made available everywhere which is good :)23:33
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lbtauke: yeah, that was rhetorical :)23:43
aukelbt: I like answering that particular type of question23:45
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lbt<grin>23:47
* lbt books his conference flights... sat-fri <eek>23:47
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lcuklbt, sticking around for extra long boozing session afterwards? :D23:51
lbtinfrastructure planning23:51
lcukand football on wed night!23:52
lbt<mumble>yippee</mumble>23:52
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kfxStskeeps: what's a normal boot time for meego on n810?  I'm expecting 5-10 minutes?23:54
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Khertan_N130Hi again23:59
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