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| smithna | hi, could anyone tell me how to use navit with gypsy/geoclue (what's used with meego)? I saw the line reference on the wiki, but it didn't seem to work... | 00:19 |
| mece | hmm.. is this supposed to have any applications or something? Seems very empty. | 00:19 |
| smithna | Also, if I may, how do I use the xfce4-mixer to get sound out of spdif? I've basically turned everything on (and volume up) without any luck. | 00:20 |
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| kieppie | hi guys. I'm trying to install v.1 on my eee 701, but getting an no-PAE error @ boot. there's conflicting info on the forum, with it working for some users & not for others. | 00:23 |
| kieppie | any idea, please | 00:24 |
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| CosmoHill | hey auke k | 00:29 |
| CosmoHill | curse you tab compleete | 00:30 |
| auke | heh | 00:30 |
| CosmoHill | comment ça va? | 00:31 |
| auke | tres bien, merci | 00:31 |
| CosmoHill | excerlent | 00:31 |
| auke | excusez l'absence des accents propres | 00:32 |
| CosmoHill | hehe | 00:32 |
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| thiago_home | setxkbmap -symbols 'us(alt-intl)' | 00:32 |
| CosmoHill | I read that with the first t :/ | 00:32 |
| auke | all these years working with linux and I haven't found an easy way to add accents to characters yet | 00:33 |
| auke | apart from opening gucharmap XO | 00:33 |
| CosmoHill | I've been kinda learning french in #lfs-fr | 00:33 |
| auke | I got plenty of french in school, and vacations in switzerland and france | 00:34 |
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| CosmoHill | mum said if I get a job with Blizard in franch they give you french lessons | 00:34 |
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| Stskeeps | 209/209 sessions voted for, time for sleep :P | 00:50 |
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| DawnFoster | anyone want to help me with a random mysql query (for MeeGo metrics)? | 00:54 |
| DawnFoster | something isn't working, and I've never been much of a db expert | 00:54 |
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| Stskeeps | as with most help questions, it's probably better to ask the question instead of asking for help :) | 00:57 |
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| mikhas | "Dont ask to ask" | 00:59 |
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| DawnFoster | well, it's pretty off topic, but here you go: | 01:00 |
| thiago_home | you want a random query? | 01:00 |
| DawnFoster | Data model: http://tools.libresoft.es/data_model_mlstats | 01:00 |
| * thiago_home suggests SELECT RAND(); | 01:00 | |
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| DawnFoster | my query: | 01:00 |
| DawnFoster | select p.email_address, year(m.first_date) as y, monthname(m.first_date),count(*) as c, m.mailing_list_url, n.name from messages as m,messages_people as p,people as n where m.message_id=p.message_ID and p.email_address=n.email_address and month(first_date)=8 and year(first_date)=2010 and m.mailing_list_url='http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-commits/' group by n.name, month(m.first_date) order by y, month(m.first_date), c; | 01:00 |
| DawnFoster | trying to see who (by name, not email address) is posting to meego commits | 01:00 |
| DawnFoster | it returns a null set | 01:00 |
| DawnFoster | this query works by email address, for example: | 01:01 |
| DawnFoster | select p.email_address, year(m.first_date) as y, monthname(m.first_date),count(*) as c, m.mailing_list_url from messages as m,messages_people as p where m.message_id=p.message_ID and month(first_date)=8 and year(first_date)=2010 and m.mailing_list_url='http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-commits/' group by p.email_address, month(m.first_date) order by y, month(m.first_date), c; | 01:01 |
| DawnFoster | but the names are in a different table (people) | 01:01 |
| thiago_home | my SQL is a bit rusty, but if it's a different table, you need a join | 01:02 |
| trem | nite all, sweet dreams | 01:02 |
| DawnFoster | sorry, I should have dumped that to pastebin - i'm violating my own guidelines again :) | 01:02 |
| Stskeeps | the text was on one line, so it doesn't qualify for pastebin ;) | 01:03 |
| DawnFoster | inner join = comma | 01:03 |
| mikhas | thiago_home, the join is right there, in the where clauses | 01:03 |
| mikhas | it's just a very expensive way to write up a join ;-) | 01:03 |
| DawnFoster | it's joining 3 tables | 01:03 |
| DawnFoster | well, it's a tiny db | 01:03 |
| DawnFoster | on my hard drive | 01:04 |
| DawnFoster | so going for "works" over elegant :) | 01:04 |
| Stskeeps | DawnFoster: if you don't manage to get an answer tonight, prod w00t (viroteck at viroteck.net) - he's quite good with this kind of stuff and always helpful :) | 01:04 |
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| mikhas | I feel like you want to split that in two parts: First join so that you have a result table containing all needed columns. then filter by "having by" | 01:04 |
| DawnFoster | also, this is what it looks like when community managers white sql queries | 01:04 |
| DawnFoster | stskeeps: thanks & dneary is pretty good with mlstats, too | 01:05 |
| thiago_home | I'd say remove the where clauses and the grouping until it starts producing results, then put them back in | 01:06 |
| DawnFoster | mikhas: can you give me an example of how that would look? | 01:06 |
| DawnFoster | thiago_home, yeah, good itea | 01:06 |
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| DawnFoster | night guys | 01:06 |
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| mikhas | "select .... from ... where ... having ${some_condition}" | 01:07 |
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| csdb | DawnFoster: so it seems that this is the major difference between the 2: p.email_address=n.email_address | 01:08 |
| csdb | have you checked that email_address is in the same format on both tables? | 01:08 |
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| csdb | maybe one's "blabla@blabla.com" and the other is "<blabla@blabla.com>" ? | 01:09 |
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| DawnFoster | everything "n" is new in this query | 01:09 |
| DawnFoster | csdb: I thought so, but I should verify | 01:09 |
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| csdb | right, but that is the only added part that is influencing the selection right? | 01:11 |
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| mikhas | messages_people is the join table for messages and people, so first part is to get the join right "join people.email_address = messages_people.email_address and messages_people.message_id = messages.message_id" | 01:15 |
| mikhas | then, the where clause would contain the ML name "messages.mailing_list_url" | 01:15 |
| mikhas | and the whole thing can then be grouped by people.name (or people.username) | 01:16 |
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| DawnFoster | mikhas: let me give that a shot | 01:17 |
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| mikhas | then, either use having to filter for the dates, or use this first query as a subquery, and run the date filters in the where clause of the second query | 01:17 |
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| smithna | How do I use the xfce4-mixer to get sound out of spdif? I've basically turned everything on (and volume up) without any luck. | 02:41 |
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| Saviq | smithna: tried #xfce? also, you're probably using pulseaudio, so try pavucontrol if xfce4-mixer doesn't give you a way to select card outputs | 02:55 |
| smithna | Saviq: didn't think about #xfce -- will do | 02:56 |
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| smithna | Thanks | 02:56 |
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| c|oneman | awesome | 10:53 |
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| c|oneman | I thought meego was a third os seperate from maemo until tonight | 10:53 |
| Kubuntiac | Welcome to the revolution, my friend :) | 10:54 |
| c|oneman | instead, I discover it's a serious project, backed by intel, with a build that runs on some netbooks already | 10:54 |
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| Kubuntiac | Intel *and* Nokia :) | 10:55 |
| Stskeeps | c|oneman: and handset | 10:55 |
| Stskeeps | (s) | 10:55 |
| Kubuntiac | Yeah, those netbook vids are pretty sweet | 10:55 |
| c|oneman | it runs on the n900? | 10:55 |
| c|oneman | what else? | 10:55 |
| Stskeeps | aava | 10:56 |
| tmzt_ | libva isn't? | 10:56 |
| tmzt_ | oops, old | 10:56 |
| tmzt_ | gone a piss off ali again | 10:56 |
| Myrtti | moin | 10:57 |
| c|oneman | I've got a Dell Mini 10v, gonna try it tommorow | 10:57 |
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| Kubuntiac | I want to try it on my Dell Latitude XT2 and see how the multitouch goes... | 10:58 |
| Kubuntiac | Not quite a netbook, but hey | 10:58 |
| Kubuntiac | Still curious how they're handling multitouch, when MeeGo is Linux based and MT in Linux still seems to be forming... | 10:59 |
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| Myrtti | Robot101: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=1377 *nudge* | 10:59 |
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| c|oneman | does meego have flash support yet? | 11:25 |
| Stskeeps | on x86 | 11:25 |
| c|oneman | ya | 11:26 |
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| w00t_ | c|oneman: that was an answer, not a question :p | 11:27 |
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| c|oneman | well uh.. so was mine! | 11:27 |
| c|oneman | I was answering me! | 11:28 |
| c|oneman | (yes, they will totally buy this) | 11:28 |
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| arfoll | is there opengl ES 2 libs for meego handset? | 12:00 |
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| Stskeeps | for n900 there is, at least | 12:01 |
| arfoll | and for aava? | 12:02 |
| Stskeeps | unsure if they work | 12:02 |
| arfoll | what package is the libGLESv2.so? | 12:02 |
| Stskeeps | pvr-bin? | 12:02 |
| arfoll | cheers, wish they'd stop those obscure names | 12:03 |
| Stskeeps | you haven't seen the first of it. | 12:03 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:03 |
| arfoll | I'm hoping GLes may work better than the gl2 on the aava drivers | 12:03 |
| arfoll | awesome, it's definately in there - now to find if the driver works with it... | 12:04 |
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| timoph | oh. http://lwn.net/Articles/404248/ | 12:06 |
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| Stskeeps | oh that's nice | 12:06 |
| fabiomssilva | that is great ! :) | 12:07 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: ^ | 12:07 |
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| lokesh | how to get zypper working behind a proxy on the handheld meego image ? | 12:08 |
| lokesh | on a netbook | 12:09 |
| Stskeeps | export http_proxy ? | 12:09 |
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| slaine | Yeah, it's totally awesome, I retweeted it earlier | 12:10 |
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| DarkUranium | o/ | 12:34 |
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| CosmoHill | cool: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODU4Mg | 12:54 |
| CosmoHill | should be very helpful for meego | 12:54 |
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| messerting | Hi folks, I'm googling trying to find out how I can type sms on my laptop and send them via bluetooth from my N900 (Maemo). Anyone? | 13:14 |
| messerting | Seems gammu isn't the right tool here http://wammu.eu/phones/nokia/4016/ | 13:14 |
| CosmoHill | I think you can with the Ovi suite | 13:15 |
| CosmoHill | however I will point out (cos others will) that this is #meego, not #maemo | 13:16 |
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| messerting | CosmoHill: Thanks. I forgot to mention that I'm on a linux desktop, and ovi suite isn't available, right? Anyway - I'm moving to #maemo :) | 13:19 |
| adeus | writing a app and pushing the message via ssh to it should be simple enough :) | 13:20 |
| messerting | adeus: Actually, that would be okay by me - but how do I send and sms from the console (on the device?) | 13:21 |
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| adeus | http://wiki.maemo.org/PyMaemo/Phone_call_and_SMS_examples | 13:22 |
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| fabiomssilva | if you are familiar with QT, you can make a app that send it. Use the Qt Mobility libs | 13:22 |
| messerting | adeus: wow, great! thanks! | 13:22 |
| messerting | not too familiar with QT programming (yet..) | 13:23 |
| fabiomssilva | :) | 13:23 |
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| adeus | if sending the message is all you want, those python examples should do great | 13:24 |
| messerting | A bit strange that the N900 is not supported by eg. opensync, kmobiletools, gammu etc (or am I wrong?) | 13:25 |
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| amjad | really getting a CEO from microsoft will increase nokia's market share in US?? | 14:15 |
| amjad | dont think so | 14:15 |
| thiago | microsoft business | 14:16 |
| thiago | besides, it's not the trading of CEOs that increases market share | 14:16 |
| thiago | it's an indirect consequence | 14:16 |
| thiago | but, one commenter at engadget had a suggestion: "Zune on Meego?" | 14:17 |
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| amjad | :) | 14:17 |
| CosmoHill | you sure you have that the right way around? | 14:18 |
| CosmoHill | "meego on zune" would make more sense | 14:18 |
| lcuk | nice CosmoHill | 14:19 |
| lcuk | now you are thinking with portals | 14:19 |
| amjad | ny one here going to developer day on 14 in bay area?? | 14:20 |
| CosmoHill | by bay area you mean far far away in america? | 14:21 |
| amjad | yes | 14:21 |
| th0br0 | i think that a simple reason might be that, at least that's what a us friend of mine told me earlier, the us image of nokia is rather... bad | 14:22 |
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| amjad | i lived in us for 7 years | 14:22 |
| amjad | never ever saw a nokia phone in best buy or circuit city | 14:23 |
| th0br0 | yeah | 14:23 |
| CosmoHill | we have a Best Buy in the UK, I was surprised | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | while in europe it's difficult to avoid seeing nokia phones in supermarkets | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:23 |
| th0br0 | wish we had a chipotle elsewhere than london ;) | 14:23 |
| CosmoHill | hehe | 14:23 |
| CosmoHill | my first nokia was a 3310 :) | 14:23 |
| CosmoHill | friend sat on it and cracked the screen :( | 14:24 |
| fabiomssilva | in Nokia land... you see nokia everywhere !!! | 14:24 |
| fabiomssilva | :) | 14:24 |
| amjad | i got google htc dream, though 6 months after it was released | 14:24 |
| thiago | amjad: I have a few friends who will be there | 14:24 |
| CosmoHill | and by nokia land you mean thiago's office? | 14:24 |
| th0br0 | amjad: me too. and i bricked it 3 days later ;) | 14:24 |
| fabiomssilva | Finland :) | 14:24 |
| * CosmoHill giggles | 14:25 | |
| amjad | i wanted to win android developer contest, played with android rc5 but then could not get lbs working on it, now it is just an antique piece were i test my java skills :) | 14:26 |
| lcuk | did anyone manage to get meego on the nokia netbook happily yet? (google search is a bit useless) | 14:26 |
| Stskeeps | lcuk: yes, long ago | 14:26 |
| th0br0 | nokia netbook? | 14:26 |
| amjad | nokia netbook?? | 14:26 |
| lcuk | Stskeeps, but thats not a general thing is it? | 14:26 |
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| lcuk | ie now the owners of the netbook still have to be ninjas? | 14:27 |
| th0br0 | aah nokia booklet 3g | 14:27 |
| lcuk | yes | 14:27 |
| CosmoHill | lcuk: search on youtube, i saw meego running on one on there | 14:27 |
| amjad | so dell streak is out, you guys working for meego support on it or dell is working on it?? | 14:27 |
| th0br0 | http://www.fsf.org/news/oracle-v-google mh, nice reply. | 14:28 |
| lcuk | i know theres "running on xyz" but can a normal person with a booklet just install the default meego image? | 14:28 |
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| priyanka | Hi is meego supported on IMX51 board | 14:28 |
| thiago | lcuk: just samurais now | 14:29 |
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| lcuk | thanks thiago | 14:29 |
| Stskeeps | priyanka: ARMv6, ARMv7? | 14:30 |
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| th0br0 | https://one.ubuntu.com/music/ huh, ubuntu really tries more and more to copy osx :( | 14:32 |
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| lcuk | thiago, how could a user level custom image be made available to nokia booklet owners who wanted meego? | 14:33 |
| CosmoHill | now if only they still supported powerpc | 14:33 |
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| thiago | lcuk: no clue... | 14:33 |
| th0br0 | :) | 14:33 |
| Stskeeps | lcuk: mic2 | 14:33 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:33 |
| thiago | lcuk: I've only ever seen one person run Linux on those booklets | 14:33 |
| th0br0 | CosmoHill: noone does that though nowadays, except for arch maybe? | 14:33 |
| CosmoHill | :( | 14:33 |
| * CosmoHill wonders if meego will run on powerpc (at some point) | 14:34 | |
| lcuk | i bet theres a metric shittonne of Nokia branded booklets around which would benefit from a meego advert | 14:34 |
| priyanka | @Stskeeps ARM v7 | 14:35 |
| Stskeeps | priyanka: then it likely works :) | 14:36 |
| Stskeeps | priyanka: you need to drop in own GLESv2 libs though | 14:36 |
| priyanka | ok, is there ny working image available ? | 14:36 |
| Stskeeps | grab the meego n900 core image from weekly builds and go from there | 14:37 |
| Stskeeps | we're a bunch of meego ARM people in #meego-arm - we don't do support but we usually push people in the right direction | 14:38 |
| priyanka | @STSkeeps ok good | 14:38 |
| th0br0 | isn't that support then? | 14:39 |
| CosmoHill | Stskeeps: towards the door? | 14:39 |
| Stskeeps | th0br0: no, because we don't do their homework for them | 14:39 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:39 |
| CosmoHill | sounds good to me, I'd rather me pointed in the right direction and learn for myself than get the answers spoon feed to me | 14:39 |
| CosmoHill | wish is what some of my classmates want | 14:40 |
| th0br0 | i agree... | 14:40 |
| CosmoHill | nobody's commented on my blog :( | 14:40 |
| CosmoHill | on the plus side the updated spam blocker seems to be working | 14:40 |
| lcuk | could those 2 things be linked ;) | 14:41 |
| th0br0 | ;) | 14:41 |
| CosmoHill | :o | 14:42 |
| * CosmoHill headbangs desk | 14:42 | |
| lcuk | CosmoHill, cant comment on your blog if you don't paste the link | 14:42 |
| CosmoHill | http://black-flag.co.uk/wordpress/2010/09/03/qmake-on-powerpc/ | 14:42 |
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| CosmoHill | Just relieased, I compiled a new clamav rpm but forgot to install it on my server | 14:43 |
| th0br0 | why do you have clamav on your server? | 14:43 |
| th0br0 | do you have so many windows clients? | 14:43 |
| CosmoHill | cos it's connected to windows computers | 14:43 |
| th0br0 | k | 14:43 |
| CosmoHill | even tho my desktop under windows 7 is the only computer without an AV | 14:44 |
| th0br0 | AVs slow you down :( | 14:45 |
| CosmoHill | which is why it's not on my desktop | 14:45 |
| CosmoHill | laptop has one because it's a laptop, so it's connected to all sorts of networks | 14:45 |
| th0br0 | yeah. | 14:45 |
| CosmoHill | which reminds me, smbtree is a fun command | 14:45 |
| th0br0 | oh yes :D | 14:45 |
| CosmoHill | I ran it yesterday by mistake, printed all the shares on the university network | 14:46 |
| th0br0 | ;) | 14:46 |
| fabiomssilva | any nice findings ? ;) | 14:47 |
| CosmoHill | I think some of them were student laptops | 14:47 |
| fabiomssilva | So you got a treasure map, but you do not have dig the hole ! :) | 14:48 |
| CosmoHill | what I was trying to do was to connect to a SAN from mac OS X, under windows it's the student's H drive | 14:48 |
| CosmoHill | (btw if you didn't know my real name before you do now [but only if you read my blog]) | 14:49 |
| th0br0 | or if you hovered over the link in your quassel window, jonathan ;)( | 14:50 |
| CosmoHill | :o | 14:50 |
| th0br0 | CosmoHill: you going to dublin? | 14:50 |
| CosmoHill | nope | 14:50 |
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| th0br0 | :( | 14:51 |
| fabiomssilva | I have here a desktop computer with a nVidia Card. How can I make the SDK run properly with the chroot and Xephyr ? | 14:51 |
| th0br0 | fabiomssilva: there is uhm lemme check, i saw it yesterday | 14:51 |
| CosmoHill | the journey would be described as "several anxiety attacks later" | 14:51 |
| th0br0 | CosmoHill: you got problems with flying? | 14:51 |
| th0br0 | fabiomssilva: http://wiki.meego.com/User:Vljn | 14:51 |
| CosmoHill | th0br0: duno, never flown | 14:51 |
| th0br0 | oh ok. | 14:52 |
| CosmoHill | fabiomssilva: there's something on the forum about nvidia and Xephyr | 14:52 |
| fabiomssilva | tnks :) | 14:52 |
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| CosmoHill | hmm | 15:18 |
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| CosmoHill | meego has slightly different rules on avatars than the forum I'm from | 15:18 |
| CosmoHill | aww what? no animations :( | 15:18 |
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| CosmoHill | is it good or bad that this guy is spamming the KPC forum but is too stupid to realise he doesn't have a signature to advertise in? | 15:20 |
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| CosmoHill | http://forums.kustompcs.co.uk/showthread.php?p=477482#post477482 | 15:22 |
| CosmoHill | guess which guy is the idiot spammer | 15:22 |
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| Jef91|Work | Anyone know what the status of the MeeGo N900 port is, functionality wise? | 16:27 |
| Stskeeps | well, usually, you check our test reports | 16:27 |
| Stskeeps | but what are you interesed in knowing? | 16:27 |
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| Jef91|Work | Data/wifi functional yet? | 16:28 |
| Stskeeps | wifi's functional, data not yet, but we had audio calls and sms | 16:28 |
| Stskeeps | audio calls remains to be integrated. all code is published, but main trunk is in feature freeze. | 16:28 |
| Stskeeps | data not yet == UI doesn't work with it | 16:29 |
| Stskeeps | it does work if you do it manually | 16:29 |
| Stskeeps | audio calls are in UI too. initiate/receive | 16:29 |
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| Jef91|Work | Great, sounds like it is coming along well. | 16:31 |
| Jef91|Work | Can I dual boot it off an SD card? | 16:31 |
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| Stskeeps | yes, you load the kernel using flasher -l -k -b | 16:33 |
| Stskeeps | (non destructive) | 16:33 |
| Stskeeps | we're working on a u-boot based multiboot | 16:34 |
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| Stskeeps | keep in mind we're work in progress, so some things are slow, weird, broken, etc | 16:35 |
| Stskeeps | we're actively bug fixing | 16:35 |
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| Jef91|Work | I'm aware :) | 16:36 |
| Jef91|Work | Thanks for the update though, looking forward to have a choice of OS on my n900 | 16:36 |
| Jef91|Work | Wonder which will be ready first, NitDroid or MeeGo XD | 16:36 |
| th0br0 | nitdroid? | 16:36 |
| th0br0 | n900 droid? | 16:36 |
| Jef91|Work | Yes th0br0 | 16:36 |
| Stskeeps | Jef91|Work: does it matter? :) | 16:36 |
| Jef91|Work | I have that on my SD currently, it is semi functional. | 16:36 |
| Stskeeps | Jef91|Work: our goal is for meego to work on n900 for a bloody long time | 16:37 |
| Jef91|Work | Stskeeps - Of course it does. Choice is one of the most important things about FOSS :) | 16:37 |
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| toggles_w | Stskeeps: is this with the daily release? | 16:39 |
| Stskeeps | toggles_w: hm? | 16:39 |
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| toggles_w | Stskeeps: the ui etc? meego.com just specs n900 will boot to xterm | 16:40 |
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| Stskeeps | toggles_w: sure, tablets-dev.meego.com/meego-codedrop.php | 16:41 |
| Stskeeps | full ui | 16:41 |
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| toggles_w | thanks | 16:41 |
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| vlj | hi | 16:42 |
| vlj | is there a .ks for development build ? | 16:42 |
| toggles_w | no go, url doesn't work | 16:42 |
| Stskeeps | err | 16:42 |
| Stskeeps | doh | 16:42 |
| Stskeeps | tablets-dev.nokia.com/meego-codedrop.php | 16:43 |
| toggles_w | Ahh, thansk | 16:43 |
| lcuk | Stskeeps, do you know whether there is a guide showing how to let users install their qt or other apps into the meego weekly. even if its copy binary+run | 16:43 |
| lcuk | or do they also need to first build a whole sdk at this point | 16:43 |
| lcuk | ie, can you take an already build qt 4.6/4.7 binary and use it directly? | 16:44 |
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| CosmoHill | anyone know how to run a whole GUI remotely | 17:22 |
| CosmoHill | like instead of running firefox over ssh, i can run the whole desktop? | 17:23 |
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| ScottishDuck | VNC | 17:24 |
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| vlj | there is no -march=atom in src.rpm for meego 1.0 ??? | 17:28 |
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| vlj | ho sorry I found them | 17:28 |
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| Stskeeps | morn dawn | 17:31 |
| DawnFoster | morning stskeeps | 17:31 |
| DawnFoster | or evening - ok, I haven't had tea yet :) | 17:31 |
| Stskeeps | universal greeting time should probably be in irc guidelines too ;) | 17:32 |
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| CosmoHill | hmm | 17:45 |
| CosmoHill | it would seem I've kinda been banned from the network :/ | 17:46 |
| th0br0 | huh? | 17:47 |
| th0br0 | which network? | 17:47 |
| CosmoHill | uni | 17:47 |
| th0br0 | why's that? your lab? | 17:47 |
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| CosmoHill | it's cos I did a port scan | 17:47 |
| th0br0 | and they detected that? | 17:48 |
| CosmoHill | yep | 17:48 |
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| th0br0 | you scanned the whole network? | 17:48 |
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| CosmoHill | nope | 17:49 |
| CosmoHill | just my server to see if VNC was open | 17:49 |
| th0br0 | then why did they ban you from the network? a self-scan is perfectly legal | 17:49 |
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| CosmoHill | duno | 17:50 |
| CosmoHill | it's scripted | 17:50 |
| th0br0 | and most importantly, how did they notice that this quickly... | 17:50 |
| th0br0 | scripted mmh | 17:50 |
| CosmoHill | what's funny is that even ban you from the page saying you've been banned | 17:50 |
| CosmoHill | and my switch sounds like it's grinding metal :/ | 17:50 |
| CosmoHill | seems I can't open any new connections but I can keep the ones I have | 17:51 |
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| CosmoHill | I think what I'll do now is shut down my stuff and move to another lab | 17:53 |
| CosmoHill | but first I'll ask the tech about my switch | 17:53 |
| th0br0 | lol | 17:53 |
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| th0br0 | your it sucks :P | 17:54 |
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| CosmoHill | he says I have a magical touch | 17:56 |
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| th0br0 | how so? | 17:58 |
| th0br0 | besides, did you scan just a specific port? | 17:58 |
| CosmoHill | he's implying that I break things | 17:58 |
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| th0br0 | ask him what you broke? | 17:58 |
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| th0br0 | or do you really tend to do that | 17:58 |
| th0br0 | oh. your switch. | 17:58 |
| CosmoHill | the latter :( | 17:58 |
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| CosmoHill | I basically walk up and down the hall with computers on a chair | 18:10 |
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| th0br0 | bbl. | 18:23 |
| vlj | ali1234: did you write the list of package that contains ssse3 code ? | 18:23 |
| ali1234 | yes | 18:23 |
| vlj | can you put it on the wiki ? :) | 18:24 |
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| ali1234 | for which version? | 18:24 |
| vlj | 1.0.1 | 18:25 |
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| ali1234 | vlj: http://pastebin.com/ZtqwBtzQ | 18:26 |
| vlj | thx | 18:26 |
| ali1234 | in short, glibc is the only package in 1.0.1 | 18:27 |
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| CosmoHill | I can't believe that apart from the monitors and computers, that the whole cluster stuff fits into one box | 18:37 |
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| CosmoHill | bye bye .o/ | 18:43 |
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| Myrtti | procrastination'r'us. Not that I had anything better to do than to make myself a forum avatar... | 18:46 |
| Myrtti | DOH. | 18:46 |
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| Myrtti | and yes, it's pink. | 18:47 |
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| GAN900 | Myrtti, we'd worry about you if it weren't. | 18:53 |
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| Myrtti | ♥ | 18:54 |
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| CosmoHill | does meego have sdl? | 20:10 |
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| amjad | building netbook-mtf image | 20:14 |
| slaine | CosmoHill: it should do yes | 20:14 |
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| CosmoHill | cool | 20:15 |
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| CosmoHill | now how do I put openttd into an RPM :) | 20:16 |
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| amjad | openttd has .deb?? | 20:21 |
| CosmoHill | not as far as I know | 20:22 |
| CosmoHill | I looked on their website and they have generic tarballs for i686 | 20:22 |
| amjad | is this what you are looking at?? | 20:23 |
| amjad | http://www.openttd.org/en/download-stable | 20:23 |
| LoCusF_ | alien perhaps? | 20:23 |
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| amjad | yes thats what i was getting to , alien | 20:24 |
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| LoCusF_ | or just check out the dir structure of the binaries and do a spec based on them | 20:24 |
| CosmoHill | oh i see them now] | 20:24 |
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| elkippy | hi | 21:06 |
| DrHalan | hey, anoyne using meego on the n900 here? | 21:06 |
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| CosmoHill | DrHalan: yes but I'm not one of them | 21:08 |
| DrHalan | CosmoHill: do you know what they experienced? is it useable. are there major features still missing? | 21:09 |
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| CosmoHill | sorry I'm not up to date with that | 21:09 |
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| CosmoHill | well screw you | 21:09 |
| CosmoHill | eep you came back | 21:09 |
| DrHalan | ^^ | 21:09 |
| CosmoHill | sorry I'm not up to date with that | 21:09 |
| DrHalan | no problem | 21:09 |
| DrHalan | just curious | 21:10 |
| CosmoHill | I don't know if phone calls are possible yet | 21:10 |
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| th0br0 | CosmoHill: i think they are | 21:16 |
| th0br0 | at least placing / receiving calls | 21:16 |
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| DrHalan | mh do you guys know what maemo uses for im? is it telepathy? if so i wonder how the skype support was made | 21:17 |
| RST38h | it is telepathy | 21:18 |
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| Jaffa | DrHalan: Skype wrote telepathy and libosso-abook integration. | 21:35 |
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| Jaffa | DrHalan: A Skype bloke was talking about it at Maem Summit 2009 | 21:36 |
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| elkippy | hey is anyone aware of how meego rund on the samsung n140? | 21:55 |
| elkippy | runs* | 21:55 |
| CosmoHill | is it on the supported hardware list? | 21:55 |
| slonopotamus | accidentally? | 21:56 |
| slonopotamus | :P | 21:56 |
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| CosmoHill | ? | 21:59 |
| sivu | hmmm... obs repository is stuck in status "outdated(building)" | 21:59 |
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| sivu | even tho no packages are building | 21:59 |
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| sivu | and every package in project shows "finished (recalculating)" | 22:00 |
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| sivu | ah.. scheduler had died | 22:01 |
| elkippy | oh i dont think so, but it has an atom | 22:02 |
| elkippy | is there a definitive list somewhere? | 22:02 |
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| vgrade | CosmoHill, that was funny | 22:03 |
| * CosmoHill is confused | 22:04 | |
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| vgrade | your reply, screw you :) | 22:04 |
| CosmoHill | :) | 22:04 |
| CosmoHill | normally people don't come back in when I do that | 22:05 |
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| vgrade | we should log that one for the MeeGo greeters | 22:05 |
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| CosmoHill | http://www.daimi.au.dk/~cvm/data/irssistats.aug.html << see my random quoet | 22:06 |
| CosmoHill | it makes no sense without context | 22:06 |
| CosmoHill | (and because it's me, it might even make sense with contexts) | 22:06 |
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| vgrade | do we have the Cambridge 4 yet | 22:08 |
| CosmoHill | no idea | 22:08 |
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| CosmoHill | see what we have on the forums | 22:09 |
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| DrHalan | lol i thought there would be dozends of people here using meego on a cellphone | 22:14 |
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| CosmoHill | they're exspensive tho | 22:17 |
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| DrHalan | bought my n900 on ebay for 300 euros. its not that much imo | 22:18 |
| ali1234 | but you can't actually use it yet | 22:19 |
| DrHalan | well i am using maemo its just awesome | 22:19 |
| DrHalan | i was wondering how far the development of meego is | 22:19 |
| DrHalan | maemo's multitasking is nice | 22:20 |
| mikhas | I'd say it's more than nice | 22:21 |
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| DrHalan | i was wondering if the the gui is running in an x server | 22:21 |
| ali1234 | the last system i had that didn't have multitasking was a C64 | 22:22 |
| DrHalan | xD | 22:22 |
| ali1234 | so i find it kind of hard to get excited about that | 22:22 |
| DrHalan | well its the first cellphone with real multitaksing fo rme | 22:22 |
| DrHalan | and the first mobile devic ethat has some kind of composition manager running | 22:25 |
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| vgrade | CosmoHill, I think we have a quorum for the Cambridge group | 22:34 |
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| CosmoHill | vgrade: cool | 22:36 |
| CosmoHill | now you'd need a location | 22:36 |
| CosmoHill | i know the ARU is in cambridge and you might be able to get a room there if you uneed one | 22:37 |
| vgrade | ARU | 22:37 |
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| CosmoHill | Anglia Ruskin University | 22:38 |
| vgrade | do you know anyone there? | 22:39 |
| CosmoHill | I'm at the Chelmsford campus | 22:40 |
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| DrHalan | mh | 22:41 |
| DrHalan | meego 1.1 is supposed to be released in october the homepage says. i guess ill wait until then to try it out | 22:41 |
| th0br0 | CosmoHill: your in cambridge? | 22:41 |
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| CosmoHill | no, chelmsford | 22:41 |
| DrHalan | though i reall ylike to use bleeding edge stuff | 22:41 |
| th0br0 | is that close? | 22:41 |
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| CosmoHill | 50 miles i think | 22:41 |
| th0br0 | k | 22:42 |
| th0br0 | ever been to oxford? | 22:42 |
| CosmoHill | nope | 22:42 |
| CosmoHill | I've been cambridge once | 22:42 |
| th0br0 | k | 22:42 |
| CosmoHill | I think I was 16 | 22:46 |
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| CosmoHill | wait, 17 | 22:46 |
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| DrHalan | i am looking for a blog entry or test report about running meego on the n900 | 22:51 |
| DrHalan | cant find anyhting :( | 22:52 |
| Stskeeps | wiki.meego.com has a fair bunch | 22:52 |
| Stskeeps | under QA | 22:52 |
| DrHalan | tahnks | 22:53 |
| DrHalan | but form the videos meegos design looks worse than maemo... maybe i don't upgrade at all | 22:53 |
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| * lbt curses (initramfs) $ | 22:54 | |
| Stskeeps | what crashed now? | 22:54 |
| lbt | I'm upgrading ... :) | 22:54 |
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| lbt | new machines, new disks, new raid arrays | 22:55 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 22:55 |
| CosmoHill | yay | 22:55 |
| * Stskeeps pats his zfs install | 22:55 | |
| lbt | yeah... "it should work"... "hmmm" | 22:55 |
| Stskeeps | forgot it exists at times | 22:55 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 22:55 |
| * lbt coughs "opensolaris" | 22:55 | |
| lbt | and giggles... | 22:55 |
| Stskeeps | sure, but it just works | 22:56 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 22:56 |
| Stskeeps | does exactly what i need it to | 22:56 |
| lbt | woo... it got bored waiting for rootfs to appear | 22:56 |
| lbt | yeah... I know... sometimes... | 22:56 |
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| CosmoHill | no more open solaris >.< | 22:56 |
| Stskeeps | well, minus that i don't have it using the LEDs on the front panel, but solaris kernel driver programming.. | 22:56 |
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| Stskeeps | http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Entry-Storage-System-SS4200-E/dp/B0012J0MYW <- my favourite intel product | 22:57 |
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| CosmoHill | is it good or bad that todays home servers are yesterday's home computers? | 22:59 |
| Stskeeps | it's typical | 22:59 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 22:59 |
| lbt | hmm not on .co.uk | 23:00 |
| CosmoHill | my server was my home computer :) | 23:00 |
| lbt | but I saw it last time | 23:00 |
| lbt | it is very nice | 23:00 |
| Stskeeps | product is discontinued now | 23:00 |
| th0br0 | pretty sweet, Stskeeps | 23:01 |
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| Stskeeps | (it allows serial access if you wire it up and has upgradable ram.) | 23:01 |
| Stskeeps | and own booting, so it qualified as a hackable device ;) | 23:02 |
| CosmoHill | http://kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_1201.html | 23:02 |
| Stskeeps | doesn't look gf friendly | 23:03 |
| CosmoHill | the hell's a gf? | 23:03 |
| Stskeeps | girlfriend | 23:03 |
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| CosmoHill | you missed the joke | 23:03 |
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| Stskeeps | probably | 23:03 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 23:03 |
| ShadowJK | and that intel thing is? | 23:03 |
| Stskeeps | ShadowJK: url above | 23:04 |
| ShadowJK | and that intel thing is gf friendly? | 23:04 |
| Stskeeps | sure, it's pretty soundless and doesn't look horrible | 23:04 |
| Stskeeps | and fairly minimal | 23:04 |
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| CosmoHill | Stskeeps: if you add some straps it would look like a handbag | 23:05 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 23:05 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 23:05 |
| ShadowJK | I think I've heard all the variants of aesthetics installing fibreoptics into people's houses by onw.. | 23:05 |
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| CosmoHill | how about this; http://kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_1023.html | 23:06 |
| ShadowJK | One guy had his cable going up to the roof, and down into a room through the ceiling, running ontop of a painting and a wallclock on the white ceiling. He concluded "This will be awesome once I paint the room matte black like the cable" | 23:06 |
| Stskeeps | i'm fairly happy me and my wife are both kinda minimalists.. more 'clean' rooms | 23:07 |
| Stskeeps | made it easier to move countries, too :P | 23:07 |
| CosmoHill | ShadowJK: my friend got ethernet in this room, his room is white and the cable is blue >.< | 23:07 |
| ShadowJK | just paint the room blue | 23:07 |
| ShadowJK | that's what I did | 23:07 |
| ShadowJK | (and then my cables turned out to be gray= | 23:08 |
| ShadowJK | ) | 23:08 |
| Stskeeps | i gave up trying to put words on colors beyond the basic ones.. | 23:08 |
| CosmoHill | lol | 23:08 |
| lbt | http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/prods/components/cases/cases/LianLi/PC-B71B.html | 23:08 |
| CosmoHill | nice | 23:09 |
| lbt | it is gorgeous | 23:09 |
| lbt | so nicely engineered | 23:10 |
| CosmoHill | http://kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_1442.html | 23:10 |
| CosmoHill | Lian Li are nice but out of my budget :( | 23:10 |
| CosmoHill | I have one of there 2 cd drive bays to 3 hard drives adapters | 23:10 |
| CosmoHill | stupid thing sticks out the front of the case >.< | 23:10 |
| CosmoHill | wait, my link would be a useless server | 23:11 |
| ShadowJK | I'm not sure I want aluminium | 23:11 |
| lbt | ShadowJK: you do | 23:11 |
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| lbt | much better heat xfer | 23:12 |
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| lbt | much nicer than a crappy steel one | 23:12 |
| CosmoHill | Stskeeps: does your gf life anime? | 23:12 |
| CosmoHill | *like | 23:12 |
| CosmoHill | http://black-flag.co.uk/files/server.jpg | 23:12 |
| Stskeeps | CosmoHill: not like i do | 23:13 |
| CosmoHill | in that case the link is for you, not her | 23:13 |
| Stskeeps | heh :P | 23:14 |
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| CosmoHill | I decorated it when it was my desktop case incase anyone is wondering why I have a pretty server | 23:15 |
| ShadowJK | lbt, but noisier since it's lighter? | 23:16 |
| CosmoHill | http://black-flag.co.uk/files/server.jpg anime sever ftw | 23:16 |
| CosmoHill | crap wrong window | 23:16 |
| ShadowJK | This heat transfer thing is like some sort of scam anyway. My Q9550 is perfectly happy inside my tripple-layer insulated Antec P182 case.. | 23:16 |
| CosmoHill | ShadowJK: i think it depends on the construction | 23:16 |
| lbt | ShadowJK: Lian Li are pretty solid... | 23:16 |
| CosmoHill | my steel server rattles and wobbles cos it bends | 23:16 |
| lbt | how do I make /dev/disk/by-uuid appear? udevadm trigger should create it.... | 23:17 |
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| CosmoHill | ever wondered how you make a hamster disapear? | 23:23 |
| CosmoHill | simple: http://black-flag.co.uk/files/toffelaptop.jpg | 23:24 |
| CosmoHill | slam that laptop shut | 23:24 |
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| th0br0 | CosmoHill: so you like animuh? | 23:29 |
| CosmoHill | yes | 23:29 |
| th0br0 | :D | 23:29 |
| th0br0 | mh, i think we had this discussion in the past. | 23:30 |
| CosmoHill | maybe | 23:30 |
| CosmoHill | I wonder if the local meego meeting will turn into an anime club :/ | 23:30 |
| th0br0 | ;P the local meego meeting? you seem to have high anticipations | 23:31 |
| ScottishDuck | Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei | 23:31 |
| CosmoHill | *by local I mean within 55 miles | 23:31 |
| th0br0 | ah ok | 23:31 |
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| kyb3R | only 11 days to our first local meego meeting at Tampere :) Yay! | 23:35 |
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| th0br0 | :) wish we had sth like that going here. | 23:35 |
| ShadowJK | kyb3R, many people coming? | 23:36 |
| kyb3R | 7 confirmed and 3 maybe | 23:36 |
| th0br0 | sweet | 23:38 |
| kyb3R | and 15 members in the network | 23:38 |
| th0br0 | how many related to nokia? | 23:38 |
| kyb3R | haven't counted ;) | 23:38 |
| th0br0 | :P | 23:38 |
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| kyb3R | i would say, about 1/3 is somehow related to nokia, a guess | 23:39 |
| th0br0 | ok | 23:40 |
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| CosmoHill | how many of which own nokias? | 23:40 |
| Stskeeps | in finland, probably many.. | 23:41 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 23:41 |
| th0br0 | :D | 23:41 |
| kyb3R | :) | 23:42 |
| ShadowJK | or samsungs :P | 23:43 |
| vgrade | CosmoHill, just sent begging letter to ARM in Cambridge, for meeting space, I'll post it on the forum | 23:43 |
| CosmoHill | cool | 23:44 |
| * CosmoHill curses qgil | 23:44 | |
| kyb3R | ? | 23:44 |
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| CosmoHill | I knew if I posted on the forums people would put me in charge | 23:45 |
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| kyb3R | might be a stupid question, but could qgil be labelled as BDFL in Meego community? | 23:47 |
| Stskeeps | no | 23:47 |
| Stskeeps | that's TSG | 23:47 |
| Stskeeps | quim has a nominated role within the CO, afaik | 23:48 |
| kyb3R | ok | 23:48 |
| mikhas | whenever I read TSG, I wonder why I never heard about that TV series. And then I remember what it really means. | 23:48 |
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