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| rockhopper | auke: Hi | 00:03 |
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| rockhopper | auke: can you give me the links that you gam\ve me earlier for the usb-modeswitch! | 00:03 |
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| auke | rockhopper: http://download.meego.com/live/home:/quanxianwang/testing | 00:04 |
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| rockhopper | auke: Lol i have a funny situation here! | 00:12 |
| rockhopper | when i try installing usb-modeswitch, it says failed dependancy usb-modeswitch-data | 00:12 |
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| rockhopper | and when i try installying -data, it says failed dependancy usb-modeswitch | 00:12 |
| rockhopper | :( | 00:12 |
| auke | silly | 00:12 |
| auke | rpm -i --nodeps | 00:13 |
| auke | use that to install them | 00:13 |
| auke | the person who made them just barely made them a few days back | 00:13 |
| auke | they're "experimental" | 00:13 |
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| CosmoHill | if I were to ask about IA-64 in here, would I get the same people as last night? | 01:18 |
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| arfoll_ | on the joggler images what do I have to do to get networking/sound back up? | 01:20 |
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| CosmoHill | nope | 01:25 |
| arfoll_ | supid kernel versions | 01:27 |
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| csdb | IA-64 as in Itanium ? Does it still exist? | 01:30 |
| microlith | it does | 01:31 |
| microlith | not nearly on the level of the x86-64 chips, however | 01:31 |
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| CosmoHill | I'm thinking of getting one of them | 01:38 |
| ScottishDuck | IA-64 is not e | 01:39 |
| ScottishDuck | worth the money | 01:39 |
| CosmoHill | it's £150 | 01:39 |
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| ali1234 | for £150 you can get a nice 64 bit athlon machine, and it will run meego exactly as well as itanium :) | 01:40 |
| CosmoHill | lol | 01:40 |
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| csdb | better | 01:41 |
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| CosmoHill | last computer I bought on ebay doubled in price when you included the postage | 01:41 |
| vgrade | arfoll, http://jogglerwiki.info/index.php?title=MeeGo#MeeGo_on_the_Joggler for networking. | 01:41 |
| ali1234 | well yeah, don't buy PCs on ebay unless you can collect | 01:41 |
| csdb | Itaniums never came in small sizes.... | 01:41 |
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| vgrade | arfoll, sound is covered in other areas of the wiki | 01:42 |
| CosmoHill | it's £150 with postage | 01:42 |
| ali1234 | it's still not worth it | 01:42 |
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| CosmoHill | I kinda wanna buy it but it costs money | 01:46 |
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| arfoll_ | vgrade, nah turns out kernel version was all wrong - so I started again | 01:50 |
| arfoll_ | CosmoHill, it's a silly idea | 01:50 |
| CosmoHill | i know | 01:50 |
| arfoll_ | if you really want it go for it, buy you really have to want obscure hardware for the sake of it. | 01:51 |
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| arfoll_ | on ebay you can get some cheap opterons and a dual CPU board for not too much money | 01:52 |
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| CosmoHill | I'd use it for CLFS dev work | 01:57 |
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| vgrade | night all | 02:07 |
| CosmoHill | bye vgrade | 02:07 |
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| CosmoHill | oo? | 02:13 |
| auke | alternative heating system? | 02:14 |
| csdb | oh yeah. | 02:14 |
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| CosmoHill | I used to run folding@home in the winter in the mornings before I got out of bed | 02:14 |
| csdb | used to pack 144 opterons/rack, each 12-opteron node consumed something like 3.5Kw | 02:15 |
| csdb | A/C was big... | 02:15 |
| CosmoHill | ... | 02:16 |
| rdesfo | is there a way to get more features in the n900 version of xournal? | 02:16 |
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| CosmoHill | one thing that annoyes me is when people come into my lab* and use a computer | 02:16 |
| CosmoHill | then they leave they've left the computer and AC on and it will be days before someone else come sinto the lab | 02:17 |
| CosmoHill | * it's not my lab but as I'm the only user i concidering it as such | 02:17 |
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| csdb | back to meego. Anyone know why the gstreamer rpm in the Meego repo says its 0.10.30 but the .so files inside the rpm say 0.10.26 ? | 02:24 |
| csdb | The doc directory in the rpm says 0.10.30 | 02:24 |
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| CosmoHill | cyas | 02:33 |
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| lbt | where is OSU ? | 02:56 |
| lbt | what city? | 02:56 |
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| RhymeswAlbert | lbt Corvallis, Oregon ... | 03:01 |
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| lbt | drupal, helpfully, doesn't have those options... | 03:02 |
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| lbt | is LA close enough? | 03:02 |
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| lbt | it wants to set the timezone... but I guess php users are too .... ?? ... to cope with that | 03:03 |
| lbt | so now I need a damned US geography lesson | 03:03 |
| RhymeswAlbert | Ya, LA is in the same time zone .... | 03:04 |
| lbt | thanks | 03:04 |
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| csdb | lbt: is the community OBS receptive to new users yet? | 03:13 |
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| lbt | csdb: I am installing LDAP right now | 03:15 |
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| rockhopper | auke: I've installed the usb modeswitch! and it still doesn't recognise my cdma device as 3g.. its showing it as a usb storage device | 03:18 |
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| csdb | lbt: sounds close :-) | 03:23 |
| lbt | csdb: yeah... still a matter of weeks-not-days... we're working on security policy stuff since it'll be in the meego infra area | 03:24 |
| lbt | anyhow... bed | 03:25 |
| lbt | l8r | 03:25 |
| csdb | lbt: is LDAP going to lookup current wiki.meego.com users or a separate LDAP DB? | 03:25 |
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| csdb | ok - ttyl | 03:27 |
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| rockhopper | does anyone know how to isntall tcl on moblin or meego? | 03:31 |
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| bliTz413 | test | 03:57 |
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| csdb | bitshuffler: there are 2 obs servers. One is for internal use (Intel, Nokia), and lbt is setting up a community one, but I just asked him a little while ago and the response was: csdb: yeah... still a matter of weeks-not-days... we're working on security policy stuff since it'll be in the meego infra area | 04:08 |
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| purserj | something that might be of interest: http://mobilefoss.jamespurser.com.au/Call_For_Papers | 05:55 |
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| UlfHofemeier | Hi | 06:53 |
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| maxamillion | is there any ETA on when we might see some MeeGo powered smartphones for public consumption? | 07:21 |
| Kubuntiac | I think there's nothing official, but the rumor is mid Nov, isn't it? | 07:22 |
| * Kubuntiac wanders off to spread some more wild disinformation... | 07:23 | |
| maxamillion | lol | 07:24 |
| sofar | nobody knows, not even the people working on it, and they are not allowed to tell you :) | 07:25 |
| maxamillion | I love my Android handset but I'm extremely excited about the idea of a traditional GNU/Linux environment in my pocket :) | 07:25 |
| Kubuntiac | One person I know (who's *not* working on it, but works closely with Nokia) was hinting very strongly at Nov. | 07:26 |
| Kubuntiac | @ maxamillion - ditto :) | 07:26 |
| Kubuntiac | I help out with the FOSS QT / KDE painting app Krita... would *love* to see MeeGo's netbook multitouch + Krita MeeGo... *drool* | 07:27 |
| maxamillion | I'll be sure to keep my eye out for it ... only think I hope for is that there is a gmail client of sorts ... and (sadly) I need exchange support for my $dayjob | 07:27 |
| maxamillion | Kubuntiac: that'd be cool :) | 07:27 |
| Kubuntiac | re: Gmail, couldn't you just access it via pop / imap? | 07:27 |
| maxamillion | Kubuntiac: yeah, but I like the archive feature | 07:28 |
| Kubuntiac | Ahhh... OK. | 07:28 |
| Kubuntiac | Isn't "Archive" moving it to a standard IMAP folder or something like that? | 07:28 |
| maxamillion | Kubuntiac: it might be, I honestly haven't looked into it that much | 07:29 |
| maxamillion | Kubuntiac: I might have to do that | 07:29 |
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| Kubuntiac | I seem to recall accessing Gmail by IMAP and seeing it create a bunch of folders for tags 'n' stuff | 07:29 |
| maxamillion | Kubuntiac: I also like the live sync, but that might still be possible with Push IMAP | 07:29 |
| Kubuntiac | Only one way to find out for sure... ;P | 07:30 |
| maxamillion | yeah, I'll try setting it up tomorrow at the office | 07:30 |
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| Kubuntiac | Cool. If you see me around let me know how it goes... | 07:31 |
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| maxamillion | Kubuntiac: will do, I'll probably start hanging out here ... just need to add it to my auto join list in my irssi config | 07:31 |
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| Kubuntiac | Just did myself. | 07:32 |
| maxamillion | :) | 07:32 |
| Kubuntiac | I'm sure we're going to see some interesting action between now and Christmas... | 07:32 |
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| maxamillion | I do hope so | 07:32 |
| Kubuntiac | Yeah, well. Honestly if we don't... they're in serious trouble. :/ | 07:33 |
| maxamillion | it will likely end up being my x-mas present to myself if it rolls out for Verizon | 07:33 |
| maxamillion | but I worry it will be GSM only | 07:33 |
| Kubuntiac | I'm looking at one for my wife... if they're decent. | 07:33 |
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| Kubuntiac | Yeah, I really don't know about the whole GSM thing | 07:34 |
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| Kubuntiac | I really don't know that much at all, other than that I love how Nokia's been playing with the FOSS scene | 07:34 |
| Kubuntiac | and that's how I want *my* phone / Netbook to run (ok, and some of the videos are pretty sexy ;P) | 07:35 |
| maxamillion | lol | 07:35 |
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| maxamillion | I really like the UI so far for the MeeGo handset and MeeGo tablet | 07:35 |
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| maxamillion | I think I'll likely stick with a more traditional desktop environment for my netbook though ... just habit | 07:36 |
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| Kubuntiac | Dual boot, baby. :) I'll probably have a Linux Distro + MeeGo | 07:37 |
| Kubuntiac | If only GRUB didn't look so **** ugly :( | 07:37 |
| maxamillion | Kubuntiac: could just grab a MeeGo adaptation like Fedora and/or OpenSuSE and just login to MeeGo or $DE_of_choice | 07:37 |
| Kubuntiac | Yeah... if I liked either of those distros... (thus beginneth the flame war!) | 07:38 |
| maxamillion | errr... MeeGo UX (iirc that's what they are calling it) | 07:38 |
| maxamillion | Kubuntiac: naw, I'm far far past distro wars | 07:38 |
| Kubuntiac | I think you're one of the few... | 07:39 |
| maxamillion | Kubuntiac: I've spent enough time on enough distros to have found what I liked but respect the others for what they are and realize that there are more than one for a reason | 07:39 |
| maxamillion | Kubuntiac: I'm a Fedora contributor so I'm obviously biased towards Fedora in preference and recommendations but if someone rolls up showing their OpenSuse, Debian, Gentoo, or Ubuntu pride ... its not my place to cut them down for their exercise of freedom and choice | 07:40 |
| UlfHofemeier | Yes, you mailed me the address | 07:40 |
| UlfHofemeier | ww | 07:40 |
| Kubuntiac | Absolutely. I like different ones for different things. I love some of the polish Kubuntu is doing, but dang, if makepkg on Arch isn't awesome | 07:41 |
| maxamillion | or $other_distro (gotta make sure I don't offend anyone ... >.> ) | 07:41 |
| maxamillion | Kubuntiac: Arch is an extremely fun distro | 07:41 |
| Kubuntiac | Fedora's pretty dang nice for artwork and trailblazing cool tech | 07:41 |
| maxamillion | Kubuntiac: yeah, the design team is top notch and the tech that ends up in there is a lot of fun ... a QA wild time but fun | 07:42 |
| Kubuntiac | Yeah, I love it. Pitty that Chakra has forked away from it | 07:42 |
| maxamillion | oh did it? | 07:42 |
| maxamillion | I didn't know they forked | 07:42 |
| Kubuntiac | Yeah. They're producing their own distro now | 07:42 |
| maxamillion | :( | 07:42 |
| maxamillion | oh well, maybe good will come of it | 07:42 |
| Kubuntiac | Ashok / Phoix depending on which KDE version you want | 07:42 |
| maxamillion | well, I'm going to take off ... it was nice talking with you, I'll see you around I'm sure :) | 07:43 |
| Kubuntiac | later! | 07:43 |
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| Mat_Matan | Hi | 11:05 |
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| lokesh | Roger Wang >> Are you here on IRC ? | 11:36 |
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| _macros | Hi all, this is my first time on #meego, so pleas be patient if my questions sound (and are) silly :| | 12:18 |
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| _macros | I would like to find more details about "Personal Services" as named in http://meego.com/developers/meego-architecture | 12:19 |
| _macros | Is there a roadmap for them ? | 12:19 |
| _macros | is there alrady a plan on what to integrate in MeeGo ? | 12:19 |
| _macros | I did not manage to find the answers myself :( | 12:19 |
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| piggz | hi, is it possible to convert the meego sdk image to run in virtualbox on a non vt system? | 12:24 |
| vlj | vt ? | 12:25 |
| vlj | you mean virtualisation instruction ? | 12:26 |
| piggz | y, my core2duo is an older one | 12:26 |
| vlj | I dont think so | 12:26 |
| vlj | vt allows access to sse3 instruction from a virtualised solution | 12:26 |
| vlj | and meego needs sse3 | 12:27 |
| th0br0 | you might have luck i guess when compiling the whole meego system yourself :) | 12:27 |
| vlj | but you can install meego on your system | 12:27 |
| th0br0 | (and omitting sse3 there) | 12:27 |
| vlj | piggz: there is qtcreator in meego | 12:28 |
| piggz | yeah....i do a lot of other dev stuff for koffice in kdevelop, so i couldnt just trash my system :) | 12:29 |
| vlj | you can install meego on another partition | 12:29 |
| piggz | yeah, thats an option | 12:30 |
| piggz | is the sdk image, basically just a running meego install? | 12:30 |
| vlj | moreless | 12:31 |
| vlj | it is a chrooted image | 12:32 |
| vlj | running with a xephyr instance | 12:32 |
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| piggz | oh yaah, i got the xephr instance running by following the instructions to mount the image locally | 12:38 |
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| theplic | who feels yum isnt as cool as apt? | 14:00 |
| Duckboot | Me | 14:02 |
| tigert | you can argue packaging systems forever if you feel like :) | 14:02 |
| * theplic argues forever | 14:02 | |
| tigert | I dont find them very "cool", what I care is that stuff works | 14:02 |
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| theplic | i care too | 14:03 |
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| smoku | theplic, are you doing some kind of survey? | 14:04 |
| theplic | wish i was | 14:04 |
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| th0br0 | yum rocks. | 14:05 |
| theplic | i never should have asked the question | 14:06 |
| * theplic repents | 14:06 | |
| vlj | I prefer zypper | 14:07 |
| vlj | (opensuse user here) | 14:07 |
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| smoku | theplic, +1. raising controversible questions has a name :> | 14:08 |
| th0br0 | so stop thinking about packaging managers, but think about this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpvlTVgeivU | 14:08 |
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| th0br0 | as long as you love star wars at least | 14:09 |
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| slaine | wonder if we'll see anything cool next week at the IDF | 14:20 |
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| th0br0 | heya slaine | 14:21 |
| th0br0 | let's hope so | 14:21 |
| slaine | th0br0: hey, how's it going ? | 14:22 |
| th0br0 | pretty well, and you? | 14:22 |
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| slaine | th0br0: busy has hell these last few months | 14:24 |
| slaine | no time to play with meego :( | 14:24 |
| th0br0 | yeah, similar here. | 14:24 |
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| vlj | is there any file sharing service to host custom meego image ? | 14:27 |
| vlj | à la Mega Upload | 14:27 |
| vlj | but more "linux targeted" | 14:27 |
| theplic | torrents should be desperately available | 14:27 |
| vlj | but you must have some server to feed them | 14:27 |
| vlj | in order to "start" the torrent | 14:28 |
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| theplic | people are the server | 14:28 |
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| vlj | but I must have my computer online to share my image | 14:29 |
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| djszapi | does somone develop for MeeGo on archlinux here ? | 14:31 |
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| vlj | you can develop for Meego on Meego | 14:32 |
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| vlj | in my opinion it is the best solution as you immediatly see how it works | 14:32 |
| vlj | with glx acceleration | 14:32 |
| djszapi | on any Desktop PC ? | 14:34 |
| vlj | not any desktop pc | 14:34 |
| vlj | you need sse 3 | 14:35 |
| vlj | + intel gfx | 14:35 |
| vlj | (or unofficially nvidia one) | 14:35 |
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| djszapi | vlj: Instruction Set ExtensionsSSE4.1, SSE4.2 | 14:38 |
| vlj | so it is ok | 14:39 |
| vlj | your graphic card is ? | 14:39 |
| djszapi | lspci | grep -Rni vga | 14:40 |
| djszapi | 18:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NVIDIA NVS 3100M (rev a2) | 14:40 |
| vlj | so it should works | 14:40 |
| djszapi | k | 14:40 |
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| vlj | as long as you follow this guide :) | 14:40 |
| vlj | http://wiki.meego.com/User:Vljn | 14:40 |
| djszapi | btw, it is a laptop | 14:41 |
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| thiago | DawnFoster: ping (when you wake up) | 14:46 |
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| slaine | thiago: probably not for another hour or 2 | 14:49 |
| slaine | unless she's on the west coast | 14:49 |
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| thiago | she's on the west coast | 14:50 |
| smoku | usr/share/sample-media/Videos/big-buck-bunny.ogv ?? LOL | 14:50 |
| thiago | just some questions on how to access the admin interface of conference.meego.com | 14:50 |
| slaine | I just did a post to ilug on the conference | 14:51 |
| slaine | try and get some of the locals awake | 14:51 |
| * thiago starts reviewing the submissions | 14:52 | |
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| slaine | Is qgil east or west coast ? I've a feeling it's east | 14:55 |
| slaine | s/east/west/ | 14:55 |
| infobot | slaine meant: Is qgil west or west coast ? I've a feeling it's east | 14:55 |
| slaine | lokl | 14:55 |
| slaine | gah | 14:55 |
| thiago | west | 14:55 |
| w00t_ | mountain view, iirc | 14:55 |
| slaine | yeah | 14:56 |
| thiago | yes, MV | 14:56 |
| slaine | we've a while yet then, they're UTC -10 or something | 14:56 |
| thiago | more like -8 | 14:56 |
| slaine | yeah | 14:56 |
| slaine | 5am | 14:56 |
| slaine | just about | 14:57 |
| thiago | yes | 14:57 |
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| CosmoHill | cool | 15:46 |
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| * CosmoHill still tries to work out if he should buy the IA-64 system | 15:46 | |
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| slaine | CosmoHill: IA-64, are you serious ? | 15:50 |
| CosmoHill | yes | 15:50 |
| amjad | wow | 15:50 |
| slaine | IA64 == failed | 15:50 |
| CosmoHill | but you're reactions are worrying me | 15:51 |
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| CosmoHill | ahhhh my elbow | 15:52 |
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| epx | CosmoHill, only if you need heating for your room or something :) | 15:54 |
| n900-space | hey guys | 15:54 |
| n900-space | this image here for n900 tablets-dev.nokia.com/meego-codedrop.php | 15:54 |
| CosmoHill | epx: well winter is comming | 15:55 |
| n900-space | i know the instructions link for installing it on the memcard, but i am looking for installing it on device, cuz i dont have memcard | 15:55 |
| n900-space | plz gimme a link thanks for that | 15:55 |
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| epx | winter here was hard, I missed my Athlons this year. | 15:56 |
| epx | those damn macs, so cold. | 15:56 |
| CosmoHill | apple cold | 15:57 |
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| CosmoHill | literary and metaphorically | 15:57 |
| CosmoHill | *apple are cold | 15:58 |
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| CosmoHill | it does look like people are jumping out of the IA-64 boat | 16:00 |
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| smoku | how do I configure USB networking on meego? | 16:04 |
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| luist | mbatle: hello... any news? | 16:26 |
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| mbatle | luist, not yet, I was fixing other stuff, but maybe I can take a look today | 16:27 |
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| h4xordood | heyo :) folks how are you all here ? | 16:36 |
| CosmoHill | hey | 16:37 |
| h4xordood | hey is meego now workin on n900 ? :) | 16:37 |
| CosmoHill | (by saying hello doesn't mean I'll answer your questions) | 16:37 |
| ScottishDuck | depends what you define as working | 16:37 |
| CosmoHill | I don't think you can make phone calls yet | 16:37 |
| h4xordood | CosmoHill: i didnt asked from u | 16:37 |
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| CosmoHill | hey DawnFoster | 16:38 |
| CosmoHill | DawnFoster: IA-64 = lol ? | 16:38 |
| h4xordood | i asked in channel that means from everyone in this channel | 16:38 |
| DawnFoster | hey CosmoHill | 16:38 |
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| DawnFoster | CosmoHill: no comment :) | 16:39 |
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| CosmoHill | I think I won't buy that computer then | 16:39 |
| h4xordood | eh | 16:40 |
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| CosmoHill | h4xordood: as ScottishDuck said, define working | 16:43 |
| thiago | CosmoHill: why would you buy an IA-64? | 16:43 |
| CosmoHill | for CLFS dev work | 16:44 |
| thiago | we have three in the office... | 16:44 |
| thiago | DawnFoster: how do I access the admin interface in the conference website? | 16:44 |
| * mmeeks wonders if Anas is around, | 16:44 | |
| CosmoHill | if I had one I would try and port the current CLFS book to that arch | 16:44 |
| DawnFoster | thiago: when you are logged in, do you see a little wrench in the upper left corner? | 16:45 |
| DawnFoster | If not, we'll need to give you access | 16:45 |
| thiago | no wrench | 16:45 |
| thiago | anyway, I don't need it now | 16:45 |
| thiago | I was just wondering where I can find the session IDs that came from carsten's spreadsheet | 16:45 |
| DawnFoster | ok, cool. I'll talk to Mike to make sure that the selection committee has access | 16:45 |
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| DawnFoster | ah, yeah. the session IDs are part of the admin export, I think | 16:46 |
| * thiago is doing a first pass on summaries only | 16:46 | |
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| thiago | if you didn't write a good summary, you don't get a good mark from me... | 16:46 |
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| Stskeeps | thiago: text file ids should be == session id too | 16:47 |
| thiago | hmm? | 16:47 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 16:47 |
| DawnFoster | thaigo: try it now | 16:47 |
| DawnFoster | log out & back in | 16:48 |
| DawnFoster | see if you get the wrench | 16:48 |
| thiago | yeah, I see the wrench now | 16:48 |
| thiago | thanks | 16:48 |
| * thiago is now almost half-way through the proposals | 16:49 | |
| h4xordood_ | Stskeeps: :) heya | 16:49 |
| thiago | back to work | 16:49 |
| DawnFoster | thiago: do you have access to the session report? | 16:49 |
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| thiago | what session report? | 16:50 |
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| * thiago doesn't know if he has access if he doesn't know what it is | 16:50 | |
| DawnFoster | sorry - when you click on the wrench | 16:50 |
| DawnFoster | under conference | 16:51 |
| DawnFoster | you should see "session report" | 16:51 |
| DawnFoster | Assuming I gave you access to the right thing :) | 16:51 |
| thiago | I do see that | 16:51 |
| DawnFoster | ok, cool | 16:51 |
| DawnFoster | I'll make sure mmeeks has access to the same into | 16:52 |
| * Stskeeps should spend some time reviewing tonight just to switch his mind into some other mode than constant meetings.. | 16:52 | |
| h4xordood_ | Stskeeps: can i install meego now ;P | 16:52 |
| h4xordood_ | ? | 16:52 |
| CosmoHill | thiago: I helped a first year burn his code to disc and in the process had a copy of it on my laptop | 16:52 |
| Stskeeps | h4xordood_: sure, you might not enjoy it | 16:52 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:52 |
| h4xordood_ | its more than a week :) | 16:52 |
| CosmoHill | later that night I read this code going "that's wrong, that's wrong, that doesn't even make sense" etc | 16:53 |
| mmeeks | DawnFoster: I was missing the mechanics of the web stuff FWIW. | 16:53 |
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| DawnFoster | mmeeks: OK, you have access to the session reports now, too | 16:53 |
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| CosmoHill | FWIW? | 16:55 |
| Stskeeps | 'for what it's worth' | 16:55 |
| CosmoHill | ah okay | 16:55 |
| CosmoHill | I'm off to uni, getting kicked out of my lab :( | 16:57 |
| CosmoHill | cyas | 16:57 |
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| Stskeeps | not working | 17:30 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:30 |
| Termana | He should have tried to authenticate with nickserv | 17:34 |
| Termana | :P | 17:34 |
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| thiago | lbt: ping | 18:23 |
| lbt | pong | 18:24 |
| lbt | thiago: how may I be of service this fine afternoon? | 18:24 |
| thiago | lbt: are http://conference2010.meego.com/session/boss-meego-process-automation-how-it-works and http://conference2010.meego.com/session/automating-business-processes-meego-product-makers-using-boss the same/ | 18:24 |
| thiago | ? | 18:24 |
| lbt | looking | 18:25 |
| thiago | same presenters in both and same subject... | 18:25 |
| lbt | no... one is for commercial vendors... STB makers.... | 18:25 |
| lbt | the other is more about the code and design | 18:25 |
| thiago | which one is which? | 18:26 |
| lbt | summary tells you | 18:26 |
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| lbt | Automating Business Processes is intended to be about business management | 18:26 |
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| lbt | How it works is supposed to be about AMQP, json, concurrency, python... | 18:27 |
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| lbt | thiago: does that make things look different? | 18:29 |
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| thiago | I'm still lost... | 18:29 |
| lbt | one is for Dilbert... the other is for the PHB | 18:30 |
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| thiago | ok | 18:31 |
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| lbt | heh.... | 18:31 |
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| lbt | we think both are needed | 18:31 |
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| thiago | we'll see | 18:31 |
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| Termana | lol Dilbert reference makes situations immediately obvious | 18:31 |
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| lbt | thiago: maybe have a chat with Ramez and Jorma at Nokia too... | 18:31 |
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| thiago | don't know who those are | 18:32 |
| thiago | thanks anyway | 18:32 |
| lbt | Jorma is "the first vendor" | 18:32 |
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| lbt | and we discussed needing something about *delivering* MeeGo that is relevant to "vendor PHBs" in the audience | 18:33 |
| thiago | there are 27 people with first name Jorma in Nokia | 18:34 |
| thiago | and 1 with last name Jorma | 18:34 |
| lbt | I only know 1... you have too many freinds | 18:34 |
| thiago | I don't know any of them. I just searched the LDAP server | 18:34 |
| lbt | jorma virkkunen | 18:34 |
| thiago | 9 thiagos... | 18:35 |
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| * thiago wonders how many Juhas and Mikas | 18:36 | |
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| thiago | and variants of Mika like Miika, Mikka and Miikka | 18:36 |
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| lbt | and Mikko | 18:36 |
| thiago | that's a different name... | 18:36 |
| lbt | so's Mikka and Mika | 18:37 |
| thiago | but pronounced almost the same | 18:37 |
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| Myrtti | lies | 18:37 |
| Myrtti | ALL LIES | 18:37 |
| LoCusF_ | wtf Mikka | 18:37 |
| LoCusF_ | first time I heard of that | 18:37 |
| lbt | Nothing in finnish is pronounced the same! | 18:37 |
| thiago | 0 mikkas | 18:37 |
| lbt | ah.. Mikko ? | 18:38 |
| thiago | a bunch on the other three spellings | 18:38 |
| thiago | yes, lots of mikko too | 18:38 |
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| * lbt just lols at LoCusF_ being outraged at Mikka .... but not Mika, Miika or Miikka | 18:39 | |
| LoCusF_ | heheh | 18:39 |
| ShadowJK | Yeah coz mikka is just wrong | 18:39 |
| ShadowJK | :) | 18:39 |
| ShadowJK | it's jp not fi ;p | 18:40 |
| * lbt spots a niche in new names.... | 18:40 | |
| * thiago stops counting Davids at 100, surname starting with L | 18:40 | |
| thiago | need to remember how to make ldapsearch work with the NOE server | 18:41 |
| * lbt may be a non-conformist .... clearly my parents weren't | 18:41 | |
| Jaffa | :) | 18:41 |
| djszapi | thiago: thiago_home ? | 18:41 |
| thiago | djszapi: yes? | 18:41 |
| ShadowJK | Unfortunately finnish can't do Miiika or miiikka, but I think you could do that (from a pronunciation point of view) in jp though ;p | 18:41 |
| thiago | three vowels in a row? | 18:41 |
| djszapi | thiago: I just wanted to identify you whether you are that :) | 18:42 |
| * thiago has only seen that in Portuguese and that forms a diphthong followed by hiatus | 18:42 | |
| Myrtti | Total: Men less than 21, Women less than 15, Total: less than 36 | 18:42 |
| thiago | or hiatus followed by diphthong, like my surname | 18:42 |
| Myrtti | http://verkkopalvelut.vrk.fi/Nimipalvelu/default.asp?L=3 | 18:42 |
| Myrtti | "knock yourself out" | 18:42 |
| ShadowJK | thiago, sure, it's just the length of the vowel.. but finn's brains can't time it beyond single or double ;p | 18:42 |
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| thiago | ShadowJK: my brain doesn't time it at all | 18:43 |
| thiago | it's like the French 'e' | 18:43 |
| thiago | I hear it, I can repeat it, but 10 seconds later I will have forgotten how the word is pronounced | 18:43 |
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| kyb3R | Myrtti: :) | 18:44 |
| * thiago goes back to the sessions | 18:44 | |
| thiago | almost done... | 18:44 |
| Myrtti | statistics ♥ | 18:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | Myrtti: isn't that adding up to 'less than 35' though? | 18:44 |
| ShadowJK | Then you have k vs kk.. people will tell you that's also just the length of the letter, though in reality I think the most common way to actually render kk in speech is like k followed by a very short pause | 18:45 |
| Myrtti | DocScrutinizer: read from somewhere that the numbers aren't exact if names are rare | 18:45 |
| lbt | Can finnish people do double tongueing on musical instruments (flute, sax...) better than the rest of us? | 18:46 |
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| DocScrutinizer | oh, so there could be 20.8 men plus 14.9 wemon? | 18:46 |
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| DocScrutinizer | women erks | 18:46 |
| * thiago notes a talk submitted by qgil but where the only presenter is DawnFoster | 18:46 | |
| lbt | I should learn finnish and see if my sax playing improves | 18:46 |
| thiago | DawnFoster: did you know quim volunteered you for a talk? :-) | 18:46 |
| DawnFoster | thiago! ha! | 18:46 |
| ShadowJK | What's double tongueing? | 18:46 |
| theplic | if you get me a paid ticket i will help improve the numbers :D | 18:46 |
| DawnFoster | we worked together on it and planned to jointly present it | 18:46 |
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| lbt | ShadowJK: playing two same notes without slurring them | 18:47 |
| DawnFoster | then he got sucked into marketing stuff & we decided to do separate presentation | 18:47 |
| lbt | usually very fast | 18:47 |
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| ShadowJK | How do you do that, like a rolling R into the flute? | 18:48 |
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| lokesh | Hi | 18:49 |
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| lokesh | anybody facing this problem while launching an application on handset release | 18:49 |
| lokesh | libstdc++45 | 18:49 |
| lokesh | /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.14' not found | 18:50 |
| thiago | DawnFoster: do you know if rusty is on vacation? | 18:50 |
| thiago | lokesh: that means the application was compiled with a newer version of libstdc++ than what you have | 18:50 |
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| thiago | lokesh: upgrade libstdc++ or rebuild the app with the proper toolchain | 18:50 |
| DawnFoster | thiago: hmmm, no idea | 18:50 |
| lbt | ShadowJK: say t t t .... and then double: t k t k ..... then triple : t k t , t k t | 18:51 |
| lokesh | when i try upgrading using zypper | 18:51 |
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| lokesh | it says i already have the latest version installed | 18:51 |
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| thiago | DawnFoster: never mind, he's just replied to the email | 18:54 |
| DawnFoster | thiago: ok, coo | 18:54 |
| DawnFoster | s/coo/cool | 18:54 |
| DawnFoster | wow, I am not awake yet - need more tea | 18:55 |
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| thiago | you woke up early today... | 18:55 |
| lbt | or a pigeon.... then you could pretend to be talking to that.... | 18:55 |
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| DawnFoster | I usually start work around 6am | 18:56 |
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| DawnFoster | more overlap with all of you nice people :) | 18:56 |
| * thiago is happily asleep, usually, at 6 am | 18:56 | |
| thiago | depends on the season | 18:56 |
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| thiago | during Winter, I manage to sleep until 9; during Summer, I get woken up at 5 | 18:57 |
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| lokesh | got it .. my repos were not up to date | 18:58 |
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| mbatle | luist, I am not able to reproduce with latest trunk | 19:04 |
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| auke | did someone ping me? | 19:49 |
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| th0br0 | wb CosmoHill. why were you thrown out of your lab? | 19:57 |
| kyb3R | oh my...I added an event to Meego Community and the date is wrong! | 19:57 |
| kyb3R | any idea who could correct the mistake | 19:57 |
| auke | DawnFoster: ^^ | 19:58 |
| Myrtti | meego community what when where | 19:59 |
| DawnFoster | kyb3r: let me know what we need to change | 19:59 |
| CosmoHill | hey th0br0 | 19:59 |
| DawnFoster | I can tweak it | 19:59 |
| DawnFoster | thanks auke | 19:59 |
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| auke | DawnFoster: np | 20:00 |
| CosmoHill | it's a start of the new semester so I need to move my stuff out | 20:00 |
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| CosmoHill | only reason it's a problem is because of the lack of network sockets | 20:00 |
| CosmoHill | and cos I can't be int here with someone else has it booked | 20:00 |
| kyb3R | okei: DawnFoster the event name "Meego Network Tampere Initial Meeting" date should be 21 Sep 2010 | 20:00 |
| DawnFoster | kyb3R: OK, it's updated - give it a quick double check to make sure | 20:01 |
| kyb3R | DawnFoster: nice, thanks :) | 20:01 |
| kyb3R | it's ok now | 20:02 |
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| th0br0 | CosmoHill: ah ok :) | 20:09 |
| th0br0 | CosmoHill: so you're not getting a new labß | 20:09 |
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| CosmoHill | th0br0: 302 is being converted to something but we don't know what | 20:40 |
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| CosmoHill | if it's a general access lab then I can use it whenever | 20:40 |
| CosmoHill | (I will shout at anyone using it) | 20:40 |
| CosmoHill | *my cluster | 20:40 |
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| Stskeepz | mlfoster: out of curiousity, when in the process would you do a string freeze? | 20:42 |
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| Stskeepz | ie, a reasonable estimate on how many months before release | 20:42 |
| th0br0 | CosmoHill: :) | 20:42 |
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| CosmoHill | if its' not, I have issues | 20:42 |
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| mlfoster | Stskeepz: I think a string freeze should happen at alpha freeze | 20:44 |
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| Stskeeps | as in feature freeze? | 20:46 |
| mlfoster | I think so | 20:46 |
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| Stskeeps | makes sense - instead of 'approved by l10n' i would recommend that you enter into the CCB process instead, where architecture/marketing/release engineering/etc agree on exceptions to the feature freeze | 20:47 |
| Stskeeps | (personal opinion) | 20:47 |
| Stskeeps | so l10n would be a part of approving exceptions | 20:47 |
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| auke | choir, meat priest | 20:47 |
| auke | meet* | 20:47 |
| auke | lol | 20:47 |
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| Stskeeps | hehe :P | 20:48 |
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| Stskeeps | it was just a matter of phrasing in the proposal :) | 20:49 |
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| microlith | awesome | 20:54 |
| microlith | a bug that only occurs in my VM | 20:54 |
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| thiago_home | ZogG: we don't need to know... | 21:20 |
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| auke | diegobz: can you poke glezos for me and/or send me the place where the tx cli is hosted so I can package it for meego? | 21:36 |
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| auke | lbt: poke you around? | 21:39 |
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| diegobz | auke: http://bitbucket.org/indifex/transifex-client/ | 21:44 |
| auke | diegobz: tyty | 21:44 |
| auke | diegobz: no tarballs around anywhere? | 21:44 |
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| diegobz | auke: only in pypi I guess | 21:46 |
| diegobz | auke: it wasn't releases yet AFAIK | 21:47 |
| diegobz | auke: you can download the tip tarball from here http://bitbucket.org/indifex/transifex-client/downloads | 21:48 |
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| auke | yeah I saw that | 21:48 |
| auke | in meego we package tarballs, git checkouts aren't really preferred :) | 21:48 |
| thiago_home | git archive :-) | 21:49 |
| auke | I would if you didn't post it in hg :P | 21:49 |
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| lbt | auke: pong | 22:00 |
| auke | lbt: heya, got a question for you | 22:00 |
| lbt | of course... | 22:00 |
| auke | lbt: I've been mantaining the xfce4 packages until now in the official trunk, but I'm planning on moving them to the community obs | 22:00 |
| lbt | OK | 22:01 |
| auke | I'm wondering if you guys are ready with that to host this as a test case | 22:01 |
| lbt | 2 options ... | 22:01 |
| auke | it's about 15-20 packages | 22:01 |
| auke | not to heavy either | 22:01 |
| lbt | maemo.org is up and running | 22:01 |
| lbt | you can do that tonight | 22:01 |
| lbt | the OSU one ... that's not got LDAP yet | 22:01 |
| auke | that's fine I can wait on that | 22:01 |
| auke | can you get me access to that once it's up? | 22:02 |
| lbt | the maemo.org one then... | 22:02 |
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| lbt | I'd like you to take it there | 22:02 |
| auke | ok, that's fine | 22:02 |
| auke | I'll be happy to | 22:02 |
| lbt | then you're motivated to look at the project structure too :) | 22:02 |
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| lbt | I need to do some thinking on what project structure to use | 22:05 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: i wonder if a definition like "app is compliant if the same repository its dependancies are in can be added to a meego reference device and the app would install" | 22:16 |
| Stskeeps | could work | 22:16 |
| Stskeeps | a/all | 22:16 |
| lbt | PSB are good for all occasions | 22:17 |
| lbt | I wish I had more time to read that thread | 22:17 |
| lbt | it's either read and reply or try and get another VM into the infrastructure... | 22:18 |
| Stskeeps | when i work at home i can usually follow up my inbox but when i'm in a real work setting it's overwhelming.. | 22:18 |
| lbt | yeah | 22:18 |
| lbt | I'm just on a real push with the OBSA | 22:18 |
| lbt | we're so close | 22:18 |
| Stskeeps | occasionally it feels good to just code ;) | 22:19 |
| lbt | and now we've got some 'authority' \o/ | 22:19 |
| lbt | code.... I remember | 22:19 |
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| lbt | Any application that can build in the MeeGo community OBS, or just using MeeGo core, could be MeeGo compliant. | 22:19 |
| lbt | mmm.... build against approved projects | 22:20 |
| lbt | not PPAs | 22:20 |
| Stskeeps | or hrm | 22:20 |
| Stskeeps | "any package that has only dependancies that are meego compliant is compliant".. | 22:21 |
| lbt | I'm really worried that if I write an app that runs on the Nokia-MeeGo then it won't be a MeeGo compliant app | 22:21 |
| Stskeeps | ;) | 22:21 |
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| * microlith makes plans to attend the meego developer day | 22:21 | |
| lbt | recursive deps... | 22:22 |
| lbt | OK | 22:22 |
| lbt | we can semi-freeze any approved projects when a release happens | 22:23 |
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| Stskeeps | DawnFoster: can you replicate this bug? http://conference2010.meego.com/program?keys=Essentials+of+New+MeeGo+User+Experience - click Jan Krebber | 22:25 |
| Stskeeps | i'm getting an access denied | 22:25 |
| Stskeeps | (and there's another guy listed on left hand side) | 22:25 |
| Stskeeps | .. or well, girl | 22:26 |
| * lbt just sends his email without spending 4 hours fine-tuning it | 22:26 | |
| thiago_home | microlith: it's more than one day | 22:26 |
| DawnFoster | stskeeps: I can access it | 22:27 |
| DawnFoster | try logging out & back in? | 22:27 |
| Stskeeps | DawnFoster: odd, yeah, i'll check | 22:28 |
| DawnFoster | but I'm also an admin | 22:28 |
| DawnFoster | so I can see things others can't sometimes | 22:28 |
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| lbt | I get access denied FWIW | 22:31 |
| lbt | for Jan.... Eeva is OK | 22:31 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, access denied too | 22:31 |
| Stskeeps | (just logged in and out) | 22:31 |
| lbt | are BoF proposals open yet? | 22:31 |
| Stskeeps | bof's were sent initially in part of session proposals, but there's a whole day of unconference | 22:32 |
| Stskeeps | so adhoc bofs can happen | 22:32 |
| lbt | is there one for "Community Repos and MeeGo Compliance" | 22:32 |
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| Stskeeps | unconference day is unplanned until the morning where people add their ideas etc.. barcamp style | 22:33 |
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| lbt | Maybe a lighting talk to announce the unconference topic :) | 22:33 |
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| jedix | What provides start-pulseaudio-x11? | 22:43 |
| jedix | I can't find it. | 22:43 |
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| Stskeeps | pulseaudio? | 22:43 |
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| jedix | you'd think that.. | 22:44 |
| jedix | but no | 22:44 |
| jedix | it's not losted in the rpm I have | 22:45 |
| jedix | I don't have the file either | 22:45 |
| jedix | which I think is causing uxlaunch to abort starting x | 22:45 |
| jedix | apparently it's pulseaudio-module-x11, but I don't see that in meego | 22:47 |
| microlith | thiago_home: the listing on the meego zone page is showing only one day, and I can't go for all 3 days of IDF, as interesting as it would be | 22:48 |
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| jedix | Stskeeps: is that what provides it for meego 1.0.1? | 22:50 |
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| jedix | did you find it in the file list? | 22:50 |
| Stskeeps | not sure | 22:50 |
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| * Stskeeps ponders idly about 'MeeGo Navigator System: An Online MeeGo API Reference for Application Developers' and why these aren't more involved in the developer site discussions | 22:51 | |
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| RST38h | Maybe they are busy doing their work? | 22:57 |
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| Stskeeps | well, their work is directly related to what's supposed to go on that site, so :) | 23:00 |
| RST38h | do not worry, their work will go on that site. | 23:01 |
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| jedix | Stskeeps: so, pulseaudio creates pulseaudio-modules-x11 | 23:02 |
| jedix | that's what I needed. | 23:02 |
| Stskeeps | k | 23:02 |
| jedix | uxlaunch should have that as a requires. | 23:02 |
| Stskeeps | well, we had crashing pulseaudio and uxlaunch didnt die | 23:02 |
| auke | hold on uxlaunch should need pulseaudio as depends? | 23:03 |
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| auke | that doesn't make sense | 23:03 |
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| jedix | interesting.. | 23:03 |
| jedix | well, it bitches in the log about that exiting incorrectly | 23:03 |
| jedix | (it didn't exist) | 23:04 |
| jedix | I'm also getting start_desktop_session exit code 1 | 23:04 |
| auke | what build do you have that doesn't have pulseaudio? | 23:04 |
| jedix | I'm trying to make my own image | 23:04 |
| auke | uxlaunch doesn't start pulse up itself | 23:04 |
| auke | it's either (1) a .desktop file or (2) dbus | 23:05 |
| auke | so, what desktop file do you have that starts pulseaudio? | 23:05 |
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| jedix | moblin-dm | 23:05 |
| jedix | it's a 1.0.1 build | 23:05 |
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| jedix | so is start_desktop_session calling whatever is in .desktop? | 23:05 |
| auke | yeah the moblin-dm is a fricken hack done by monkeys | 23:06 |
| auke | uxlaunch starts all autostart .desktop files, yes | 23:06 |
| auke | regardless of who installs them | 23:06 |
| auke | bugs in autostart .desktop files are not necesarily uxlaunch bugs | 23:07 |
| auke | uxlaunch ... just processes them | 23:07 |
| jedix | k, so I'm trying to get to the desktop on boot.. moblin-dm isn't working and uxlaunch is telling me start_desktop_session exists with status 1 | 23:07 |
| jedix | there's no .desktop file, so what desktop would it start? | 23:07 |
| auke | /etc/xdg/autostart | 23:08 |
| auke | should be full of .desktop files | 23:08 |
| auke | you might also need to edit /etc/sysconfig/uxlaunch | 23:08 |
| jedix | ah | 23:08 |
| jedix | pulseaudio.desktop speech-dispatcher.desktop tracker-miner-fs.desktop user-dirs-update-gtk.desktop | 23:08 |
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| jedix | So it wants mutter? | 23:10 |
| jedix | by the looks of it | 23:10 |
| auke | that's the default (netbook UI) | 23:10 |
| jedix | ah, thanks. | 23:10 |
| auke | there are examples in there on how to make it start the handset ux etc | 23:10 |
| jedix | in uxlaunch? | 23:11 |
| jedix | it doesn't have them labeled as such :/ | 23:11 |
| jedix | which is which? | 23:11 |
| jedix | and thank you very much for your help | 23:11 |
| auke | examples are in the /etc/sysconfig/uxlaunch file | 23:11 |
| auke | what UX are you planning to start? | 23:11 |
| jedix | I guess netbook to start. | 23:12 |
| jedix | (I don't have mutter) | 23:12 |
| auke | then it's should be ok to leave it unmidified | 23:12 |
| auke | unmodified* | 23:12 |
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| jedix | what's the ivi one? | 23:13 |
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| jedix | they list gnome, mux, and xfce | 23:13 |
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| auke | inihome | 23:14 |
| auke | ivihome lol | 23:14 |
| jedix | k, thanks | 23:15 |
| jedix | so I guess mutter is not working correctly | 23:16 |
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| auke | yes, that's probably why start_desktop_session exists with status 1 | 23:16 |
| jedix | "unable to initialize Clutter" | 23:17 |
| auke | gfx hardware present? | 23:17 |
| jedix | the logs are rather sparse.. where should it log other stuff? | 23:17 |
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| jedix | it's qemu | 23:17 |
| jedix | I'm running it with -enable-kvm -vga std -enable-gl -device virtio-gl-pci | 23:18 |
| auke | I'm sorry, I'm not going to help people debug KVM gfx issues, I don't have the time for that | 23:18 |
| auke | try installing the xfce desktop and see if that runs | 23:18 |
| jedix | well, knowing what the issue is, will help a fair amount. | 23:19 |
| thiago_home | microlith: ah, it's a different event than I was thinking of | 23:19 |
| Stskeeps | jedix: virtio gl libs even present? :P | 23:21 |
| jedix | Stskeeps: on the host? | 23:21 |
| microlith | yeah | 23:21 |
| Stskeeps | no, chroot | 23:21 |
| Stskeeps | not sure how virtio gl works but .. | 23:22 |
| microlith | I'd love to attend all the IDF MeeGo sessions, but can't secure the time :> | 23:22 |
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| auke | we should make a #meego-vm channel and redirect people there :) | 23:22 |
| thiago_home | microlith: it's too bad that the main Intel and Nokia events are at the same time... | 23:22 |
| thiago_home | Nokia World is next week too | 23:22 |
| jedix | lol, I'm in like 4 meego channels already | 23:22 |
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| jedix | Stskeeps: no, no it isn't | 23:23 |
| jedix | Stskeeps: afaict | 23:23 |
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| Stskeeps | get glxinfo working as a start | 23:23 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 23:23 |
| Stskeeps | / glxgears | 23:23 |
| jedix | nod | 23:25 |
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| mece | 'ello | 23:27 |
| djszapi | hello | 23:27 |
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| mece | heh | 23:28 |
| jedix | Stskeeps: ah, it's a kernel patch | 23:28 |
| mece | Stskeeps, ping | 23:28 |
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| jedix | thanks guys. | 23:29 |
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| mece | trying to boot meego on my n900 but I get a kernel panic | 23:30 |
| Stskeeps | mece: put on your back cover | 23:30 |
| mece | it is on | 23:31 |
| Stskeeps | what kernel panic? | 23:31 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 23:31 |
| jedix | what's the panic? | 23:31 |
| mece | not syncing | 23:31 |
| jedix | before that? | 23:31 |
| mece | kinda hard to read this. hold on | 23:31 |
| jedix | it can't fidn your rootfs? | 23:31 |
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| mece | failed to execute /sbin/preinit | 23:32 |
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| * jedix looks at Stskeeps | 23:33 | |
| mece | hmm I'm not sure. seems there's something fishy with my sdcard image thingamagig. | 23:33 |
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| mece | ok.. lets see.. new high speed mmc found blahblah | 23:34 |
| ali1234 | can you take a picture? | 23:34 |
| jedix | or pastebin a serial console? | 23:34 |
| mece | it's too dark. it's almost impossible to read | 23:34 |
| mece | also, I can't do anything with it, naturally. | 23:34 |
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| ali1234 | try turning on rd mode | 23:35 |
| ali1234 | that seems to affect the backlight state at boot | 23:35 |
| ali1234 | (or turn it off if it is on) | 23:35 |
| mece | how would I go about doing that? | 23:35 |
| ali1234 | flasher-3.5 --enable-rd-mode | 23:35 |
| mece | and then? | 23:35 |
| thiago_home | then your keyboard will blink | 23:36 |
| thiago_home | :-) | 23:36 |
| ali1234 | "carry on" | 23:36 |
| mece | umh.. I have to remove my battery to get this thing to boot. | 23:37 |
| jedix | I guess you could wait for it to run out of power, it might take a while ;) | 23:37 |
| mece | anyway the last lines before panic goes a little something like this *strumming on guitar* | 23:38 |
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| jedix | does it say "not syncing: SOMETHING"? | 23:39 |
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| mece | VFS: Mounted root (ext3 filesystem) on device 179:1 | 23:41 |
| mece | Freeing init memory 140k | 23:41 |
| mece | failed to execute /sbin/preinit . Attempting defaults | 23:41 |
| mece | mmc1: New high speed MMC card at address 0001 | 23:41 |
| mece | Kernel Panic - not syncing: no init found. Try passing init= option to kernel | 23:41 |
| jedix | ah | 23:41 |
| Stskeeps | mece: how do you boot it? | 23:41 |
| mece | flasher | 23:41 |
| mece | holding u and whatnot | 23:41 |
| mece | sudo flasher-3.5 -l -b -k <kernel> | 23:42 |
| Stskeeps | ok, you need to do | 23:42 |
| Stskeeps | -k -l -b | 23:42 |
| mece | interesting. | 23:42 |
| Stskeeps | -k kernel -l -bb | 23:42 |
| Stskeeps | er, -b | 23:42 |
| mece | eeh ok. | 23:42 |
| Stskeeps | -b takes a parameter, so | 23:42 |
| mece | perhaps I should modify the wiki? | 23:43 |
| mece | what should I give as a parameter then? | 23:43 |
| CosmoHill | Stskeeps: would you fancy a game of openttd at some point? | 23:44 |
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| Stskeeps | CosmoHill: mm, i'm not good at networked games as i play at really odd times. | 23:44 |
| mece | did sudo flasher-3.5 -k meego-handset-armv7l-n900-nokia-proprietary-1.0.90.1.20100907.1-vmlinuz-2.6.35.3-6.2-n900 -l -b | 23:46 |
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| mece | got the same thing. | 23:46 |
| CosmoHill | Stskeeps: have you seen what times I'm active at? | 23:46 |
| CosmoHill | :p | 23:46 |
| jedix | mece: probably the initrd file | 23:46 |
| Stskeeps | mece: that's slightly more odd | 23:46 |
| jedix | I have no idea though | 23:46 |
| jedix | just a guess | 23:46 |
| Stskeeps | mece: could you check if mmcblk0p1 contains /sbin/init ? | 23:47 |
| mece | ..or is readable in the first place..? | 23:47 |
| Stskeeps | like, your microsd | 23:47 |
| mece | yes, i understood | 23:47 |
| mece | hm should it be automagically mounted if I boot maemo then? | 23:48 |
| Stskeeps | no, as it's ext | 23:48 |
| Stskeeps | 3 | 23:48 |
| mece | ah righty. | 23:48 |
| mece | ok I'll check on computer. | 23:48 |
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| mece | oh.. sbin is empty | 23:49 |
| mece | hmm actually everything seems empty | 23:50 |
| mece | the directories are there though. | 23:50 |
| mece | I guess that would explain the problem. | 23:50 |
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| Stskeeps | did you check the sd card was unmounted when dd'ing? | 23:52 |
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| mece | d'oh | 23:53 |
| mece | thanks. | 23:53 |
| auke | haha | 23:53 |
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| mece | stupid friendly linux that tries to help out. | 23:53 |
| DarkUranium | ...I love freenode | 23:53 |
| DarkUranium | find a project, take a random guess it's here... and it is | 23:53 |
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| mece | dd:ing stuff to sd cards is not exactly an everyday thing for me :) Well, it didn't use to be. | 23:54 |
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| DarkUranium | well, I'll be around once I try it xD | 23:59 |
| mece | success! | 23:59 |
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