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| punit | can i embed carrick connectin panel in my Qt Application, as there is an option -w in carrick panel which says embed it in another app. | 07:32 |
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| timoph | punit: you could try wrapping the panel in QProcess and showing the it in QX11EmbedContainer to see if it works. | 07:39 |
| punit | timoph : thanx timoph , i will see if it works | 07:40 |
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| adeus | Error: failed to create image : Failed to build transaction : Missing Dependency: gtk2 is needed by package meego-handset-icon-theme-0.0.4-2.20.noarch (handset) | 09:22 |
| adeus | any ideas why? | 09:22 |
| Stskeeps | 1) what arch are you building for and 2) what arch is your repo lines? | 09:23 |
| adeus | strait from the codedrop | 09:23 |
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| Stskeeps | did you remember --arch=armv7l ? | 09:24 |
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| adeus | If by remembering you mean "did you know that you need" | 09:26 |
| adeus | that would be a no :) | 09:26 |
| Stskeeps | what .ks file are you using? | 09:26 |
| adeus | meego-handset-armv7l-n900-nokia-proprietary-1.0.80.15.20100817.1.ks | 09:27 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, good | 09:27 |
| adeus | maybe the image creation page should mention that option | 09:27 |
| Stskeeps | which page are you looking at? | 09:29 |
| adeus | http://wiki.meego.com/Image_Creation# | 09:29 |
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| Jaffa | Morning! | 09:42 |
| Stskeeps | zzz | 09:42 |
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| Jaffa | Lazy bones :) | 09:43 |
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| jeremiah | lbt: lol! :) | 09:53 |
| jeremiah | (mutter . . . illiterate americans.) | 09:54 |
| Stskeeps | morn jeremiah | 09:54 |
| jeremiah | Stskeeps: Hiya! | 09:54 |
| jeremiah | Jaffa: Hi to you to sir! | 09:54 |
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| adeus | genisoimage: Uh oh, I cant find the boot catalog directory 'isolinux'! | 10:10 |
| Stskeeps | what -f are you using? | 10:10 |
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| adeus | livecd | 10:11 |
| adeus | should it be liveusb? | 10:11 |
| Stskeeps | .. what instructions are you using? | 10:12 |
| Stskeeps | you're making a boot for n900, right? | 10:12 |
| adeus | yes | 10:12 |
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| adeus | what instructions should I be using? :) | 10:14 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 10:15 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Creating_ARM_image_using_MeeGo_Image_Creator | 10:15 |
| Stskeeps | do i want to ask why you're not just getting a weekly image? | 10:15 |
| adeus | I need packages from my own obs | 10:15 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 10:15 |
| adeus | as I said, I just ended up to the normal meego image creation page | 10:16 |
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| adeus | google took me there with no indication that I'm lost | 10:20 |
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| Jaffa | jeremiah: Yo! Making it to the conference? | 10:49 |
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| jeremiah | Jaffa: I sure hope so! :) | 11:00 |
| jeremiah | It should be a lot of fun. | 11:01 |
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| hurrok | I've downloaded the latest kernel source from the repo, it comes with all patches. are these provided for reference or do I have to apply them all? | 11:18 |
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| Stskeeps | check 'series' file | 11:19 |
| hurrok | there isn't one with the package, do you mean somewhere else? | 11:20 |
| Stskeeps | hm? should be | 11:20 |
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| hurrok | This is where I got the package from: http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/1.0/lastest/core/repos/source/ | 11:21 |
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| dneary | moin | 11:33 |
| dneary | so - what'd I miss in the last couple of months? | 11:34 |
| Stskeeps | well, if you have a conference proposal for meego conference you have until friday to submit :P | 11:35 |
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| frals | anyone got a link to docu about the x-moblin/x-meego fields available for .desktop files? | 11:47 |
| Phazorx | has UTouch Framework been considered as a base inteface counterpart for MeeGo? | 11:49 |
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| Stskeeps | Phazorx: probably better to ask for meego-dev@ | 11:50 |
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| Phazorx | heh, no devs here? | 11:53 |
| Stskeeps | there are, but architecture questions is better answered on mailing list | 11:53 |
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| townxelliot | I'm about to change the order of the Search/Go buttons on wiki.meego.com | 12:21 |
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| townxelliot | I've changed the button ordering on wiki.meego.com as per http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5571 | 12:34 |
| Stskeeps | excellent | 12:34 |
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| timoph | townxelliot: thanks. Works much better this way. | 12:41 |
| jeremiah | What do people use to create MeeGo images? | 12:41 |
| jeremiah | The latest version of MeeGo? | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | jeremiah: fedora vm | 12:41 |
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| townxelliot | timoph: you're welcome | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | actually, a fedora chroot | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | jeremiah: i have a discussion thread on this topic and the situation within meego is improving | 12:41 |
| jeremiah | Don't you have to install a bunch of other stuff on fedora? | 12:41 |
| jeremiah | Stskeeps: ah, where? :) | 12:42 |
| Stskeeps | meego-dev | 12:42 |
| jeremiah | Cool, thanks. | 12:42 |
| * jeremiah goes to read the dev list | 12:42 | |
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| jeremiah | Stskeeps: Do you remember what your thread was called? | 12:50 |
| jeremiah | I can't seem to find it. :/ | 12:50 |
| Stskeeps | Proposal: Providing a compelling device porter environment for ARM and X86 using (platform?) SDK | 12:52 |
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| lbt_away | morning all | 12:55 |
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| Stskeeps | morn lbt | 12:55 |
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| * X-Fade got a first package built on the meego community OBS on OSU hardware ;) | 12:56 | |
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| Stskeeps | woo | 12:56 |
| odin_ | yay | 12:56 |
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| jeremiah | \0/ | 12:58 |
| jeremiah | lbt_away: I'll give you illiterate. | 12:58 |
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| lbt | :) | 12:59 |
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| odin_ | lbt, X-Fade what is the formal process to request an account on build.meego.com ? this is for read-only access (to mirror project/packages) | 13:00 |
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| lbt | odin_: you don't need it to mirror | 13:00 |
| odin_ | explain (the response presume you know my needs, which you may or you maybe just guessing) | 13:01 |
| lbt | quote "(to mirror project/packages)" | 13:02 |
| odin_ | you've still lost me | 13:02 |
| CosmoHill | hello | 13:02 |
| odin_ | what do you think my need is ? lets start there | 13:02 |
| lbt | you have a raw chicken and need to make a sunday roast. In order to do this you need a helper application in the kitchen.... | 13:03 |
| * lbt thinks guessing may not be the quickest solution | 13:03 | |
| jeremiah | I have a raw chicken . . . | 13:04 |
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| odin_ | yes so, lets move back to my original statement (which was not discussing my needs), it was asking what the process is to request read-only access to build.meego.com for the purpose of getting download visibility of the project/packages | 13:05 |
| pavlix | since when this is a channel about cooking_ | 13:05 |
| pavlix | ? :) | 13:05 |
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| jeremiah | (won't work in MeeGo 1.0 IVI) | 13:06 |
| lbt | odin_: there is no process (AFAIK) to get a read-only account | 13:06 |
| lbt | the OBS is however being upgraded | 13:06 |
| lbt | this week we hear | 13:06 |
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| lbt | to allow general anonymous read-only access | 13:06 |
| odin_ | is this for 2.x ? | 13:06 |
| jeremiah | I think the next MeeGo release is 1.1 | 13:07 |
| lbt | OBS 2.1-ish... yes | 13:07 |
| odin_ | OBS version 2.x (since meaemo/meego has been using 1.7/1.8) | 13:07 |
| lbt | meego community is on 2.1-ish already | 13:07 |
| jeremiah | lbt: Do you guys have ACLs already? | 13:07 |
| lbt | probably | 13:08 |
| jeremiah | wow. | 13:08 |
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| X-Fade | Not tested yet though ;) | 13:08 |
| lbt | although adrianS will shoot you | 13:08 |
| lbt | OBS has always had ACLs | 13:08 |
| lbt | but they never made a "read-restriction" acl | 13:08 |
| lbt | and they didn't have "anonymous" access | 13:09 |
| * lbt would like to find the docs for read-control/anon though | 13:09 | |
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| odin_ | upgrade to obs v2.x scheduled soon is good to hear and it probably will be next week before I want to perform a mirror | 13:10 |
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| odin_ | I wonder if its possible to subscribe to commit data, so a mirror could be kept up to sync largely without polling, "myProject:myPackage went from version 1 to version 2" | 13:12 |
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| jeremiah | Isn't it possible to ask Anas for a rsync instance? | 13:15 |
| lbt | so what kind of "mirror" are you trying to achieve? | 13:15 |
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| X-Fade | Sounds like linking your OBS instance? | 13:15 |
| lbt | it is generally good manners to work with admins to determine the most efficient solution to a problem | 13:16 |
| odin_ | well SDK+base+image packages for other arch's (i.e. ones not committed to by Nokia/Intel) | 13:16 |
| X-Fade | odin_: Another option would be to have projects published in the repo? | 13:16 |
| lbt | nb odin_ I'm *not* an admin there :) | 13:16 |
| odin_ | yes I have seen the "obs link" in the diagram but don't understand it enough to know if its the right tool for the job, I was thinking that anyone could checkin an update and it could be notified asap so other archs can be built (i.e. ones not support by Noka/Intel) | 13:17 |
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| lbt | but we are doing an almost identical thing setting up the community OBS | 13:17 |
| lbt | and we don't need an account | 13:17 |
| lbt | so I wonder why you do | 13:17 |
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| X-Fade | We just grab snapshots of the published repository. | 13:17 |
| odin_ | no I'm after the mirror to be a SCM mirror of the input data (project/package/filelist) | 13:17 |
| lbt | why? | 13:18 |
| odin_ | not of the *.src.rpm package, they are outputs for distribution purposes | 13:18 |
| odin_ | I see it as less work to maintain, patches/changes would be identical to those applied to the original source | 13:19 |
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| lbt | AFAIK it's a serious bug if the src.rpm doesn't do that | 13:19 |
| odin_ | I believe an account is needed to use 'osc' to then be able to download each version and therefore track SCM versions of OBS packages | 13:20 |
| lbt | so I may need to learn something here | 13:20 |
| X-Fade | Read only api access would be needed then. | 13:20 |
| lbt | odin_: that's a horrendous load you'd be placing on the OBS.... essentially VCS-clone via screen-scraping | 13:21 |
| lbt | whereas an inter-link would do that on demand | 13:21 |
| lbt | for just the package needed | 13:21 |
| lbt | again... what's the ultimate objective here? | 13:21 |
| odin_ | yes I would need to learn more about what inter-link and "obs link" does/provides | 13:22 |
| odin_ | an SCM clone of the OBS input data, the OBS input data is under version control and is project/package/filelist | 13:22 |
| lbt | that's not an objective :) | 13:23 |
| lbt | that's a task | 13:23 |
| X-Fade | odin_: But what are you trying to create? An alternative SDK? | 13:23 |
| lbt | the objective may be disaster recovery | 13:23 |
| lbt | FWIW Nokia doesn't do that to produce their meego product | 13:23 |
| odin_ | the objective is to have an independant OBS setup (which yes can be used for alternative archs, alternative SDK, target experimentation, etc...) | 13:23 |
| odin_ | but paid for by someone else and outside of the MeeGo political system | 13:24 |
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| lbt | mmm | 13:25 |
| lbt | If I was an OBS admin I'd be concerned about the load placed on the system taking your approach | 13:25 |
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| lbt | the OBS has an internal VCS which is part of the workflow | 13:26 |
| lbt | are you trying to mimic that? | 13:26 |
| odin_ | yes | 13:26 |
| lbt | you can't | 13:27 |
| lbt | it seems like asking to have access to the ext4 filesystem journal as a way to do backups | 13:27 |
| lbt | sure it might work | 13:27 |
| lbt | but it'd screw the system so badly, would probably go wrong and is generally a "bad idea" | 13:28 |
| lbt | I agree there are things we should have VCS access to | 13:29 |
| lbt | like prjconf files etc | 13:29 |
| lbt | odin_: I would suggest asking on #obs too .... they may offer a solution | 13:30 |
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| odin_ | osc co -r1 myProject:myPackage; scm add myProject/myPackage/*; scm commit myProject/myPackage # I'm somewhat happy how to mirror it with osc reliably, the only load on the server is downloading of each revision exactly once and the load needed to track commits (link maybe push, otherwise a slow poll of each package) | 13:31 |
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| odin_ | also not all packages are to be mirrored, only core/base/SDK kind of stuff | 13:32 |
| adeus | you checkout and commit to another place? | 13:33 |
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| odin_ | the load on the server above, is minor compared to the load needed to build the packages for more arch's | 13:33 |
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| odin_ | yes checkout from build.meego.com and commit to build.mylocalobs.com | 13:33 |
| adeus | how about copypac | 13:33 |
| odin_ | don't all those commands only work from within the confines of one OBS system ? | 13:33 |
| adeus | nope | 13:34 |
| adeus | or I did something accidentally | 13:34 |
| adeus | it | 13:34 |
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| adeus | It can be done across buildservice instances, if the -t option is used." | 13:35 |
| odin_ | maybe "osc copypac --client-side-copy -r1 --to-apiurl build.mylocalobs.com MeeGo-1.1/somePackage" ? | 13:36 |
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| odin_ | anyhow this can be worked out once visibility on packages in build.meego.com is possible, hence the request for account, but happy to wait a week for OBS 2.x | 13:37 |
| odin_ | ok no parking at Aviva venue possible on futbol game night (Weds) with conference | 13:38 |
| * odin_ ponders to hire a car | 13:39 | |
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| odin_ | lbt, not sure what tangent lbs was on with the ext4/journal to do backups example | 13:42 |
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| lbt | odin_: essentially if you want to clone the OBS then you don't do it by trying to track incremental changes... | 13:43 |
| odin_ | the rational for that statement is ? (remember I an talking about tracking release packages, so all commits should have already been tested in :Unstable) | 13:44 |
| odin_ | caveat: sure package scope maybe extended later but not current goals | 13:45 |
| lbt | so for the kernel you would pull the entire tarball for every single commit | 13:45 |
| lbt | duh | 13:45 |
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| lbt | you would also pull the entire tarball when a .patch changes | 13:46 |
| lbt | although that may be avoided | 13:46 |
| odin_ | nope, think of it like this: "obs checkout -r42 build.mylocalobs.com MeeGo-1.1/kernel", some magic, "obs update -r43 build.meego.com MeeGo-1.1/kernel", some magic, "obs commit build.mylocalobs.com MeeGo-1.1/kernel" | 13:47 |
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| odin_ | command args not real just indicative | 13:47 |
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| odin_ | but plenty of people who are building the kernel locally _WILL_ be pulling the entire tarball | 13:49 |
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| alien_ | hi, can anyone of the steering committee explain why does meego use RPM instead of Deb for package management? this choice seems strange since maemo had much more endusers than moblin and there were lots of Deb packages created by the community for the platform that need to be converted to RPM | 14:34 |
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| CosmoHill | alien_: I'm sure it's been explained on the forums and mailing lists | 14:34 |
| Stskeeps | alien_: if you try the chain package -> OBS -> mic2 -> device, you would understand. | 14:35 |
| odin_ | one reason maybe that OBS is better suited to using RPMs | 14:35 |
| Stskeeps | (and i'm from maemo.org) | 14:35 |
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| da4089 | alien_: i don't think it can be logically justified. each format has pros and cons. a choice was made. that's it. | 14:37 |
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| alien_ | da4089: indeed, but I wouldn't be surprised if the horde of n900 users won't create a "fork" using Deb packaging :) | 14:40 |
| Stskeeps | alien_: they've had a lot of chance by now, but frankly, it's not worth it.. | 14:40 |
| Stskeeps | alien_: also, those distros won't be meego compliant. | 14:41 |
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| mdp | Stskeeps, which only matters if you care about compliance | 14:43 |
| Stskeeps | mdp: mm | 14:43 |
| Stskeeps | either way, the current setup is quite compelling and flexible :P | 14:44 |
| odin_ | alien_, what is it you like about deb itself ? (other than familiarity, if I were to label myself a distro fanboi, it would be Red Hat which also means I welcome the change) | 14:44 |
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| jeremiah | odin_: It is more than just a packaging format, it is a community of expert devs. | 14:45 |
| CosmoHill | alien_: you should have been here months ago when there were lots of debs vs rpm debates | 14:45 |
| jeremiah | But that is all I'm gonna say about this because everyone knows how I feel. :) | 14:45 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, too late to fix things now | 14:45 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:45 |
| jeremiah | I will say this - mic is better supported in Debian than MeeGo IVI | 14:46 |
| Stskeeps | ow | 14:46 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:46 |
| alien_ | odin_: nothing, actually I come from gentoo, but IMHO when merging two distros it would make more sense to keep the packaging format of the distro which had more users | 14:46 |
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| jeremiah | alien_: You would think that wouldn't you. But then you are probably using common sense. | 14:47 |
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| Stskeeps | in the end, it's just packaging | 14:47 |
| odin_ | but we can all agree that obs is a major productivity boost and allows vendors to keeps more up to date than maemo5 was | 14:47 |
| Stskeeps | you have a serious problem if your software depends on the packaging to function | 14:47 |
| jeremiah | No, in the end it is community! | 14:47 |
| * jeremiah shuts up | 14:47 | |
| adeus | after just doing the rpm packages, it was just a set of problems transformed into another set of problems :) | 14:48 |
| da4089 | GNOME/Hildon/Clutter vs Qt is a much bigger issue for the platform than deb vs rpm. | 14:49 |
| odin_ | and I'm not sure if using deb packaging with obs within the timescale was a real option | 14:49 |
| mdp | Stskeeps, it would also be a problem if something like OBS was designed for one type of packaging | 14:49 |
| Stskeeps | mdp: except it isn't | 14:49 |
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| Stskeeps | we had Mer on OBS just fine :) | 14:49 |
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| mdp | Stskeeps, I would hope not :) otherwise I'd wonder why the web stuff didn't just backend on OE that handles multiple package formats | 14:50 |
| mdp | I think the interesting thing about OBS is way up the chain from packaging and build | 14:50 |
| Stskeeps | right, the four magic words: deb, gentoo, oe and rpm | 14:50 |
| Stskeeps | time for lunch | 14:50 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:50 |
| jeremiah | Fifth magic word: lunch | 14:51 |
| mdp | Stskeeps, almost sounds like invoking some Godwin's law variant :) | 14:51 |
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| Stskeeps | mdp, on a sidenote, anas is on holiday and the other maintainer isn't answering, so i think you'll have to use official channels. what i personally doubt is if it's appropiate to start arm builds of 1.1 IVI | 14:52 |
| Stskeeps | and not first start it as part of roadmap in 1.2 | 14:53 |
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| Stskeeps | as we're approaching feature freeze | 14:53 |
| mdp | right | 14:53 |
| mdp | ok | 14:53 |
| mdp | *sigh*..I truly hate official channels | 14:53 |
| Stskeeps | but let's see what you can make work on the official channels | 14:53 |
| Stskeeps | otherwise there's nothing in compliance stopping you from building ARM IVI yourself | 14:54 |
| mdp | yeah, not an issue...the exercise here is to get the maintainers to be responsive since they've volunteered or been assigned to the roles. get official builds of a mainstream UX on a popular architecture to allow more people to test | 14:55 |
| mdp | and obviously, get it on more h/w people have in there hands | 14:56 |
| mdp | conceptually, it's something the meego overlords would want..but I realize everybody has their own short-term priorities | 14:56 |
| mdp | s/there/their | 14:56 |
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| Stskeeps | :nod: | 14:57 |
| mdp | Stskeeps, it's a tough job creating an open project out from two corporations and a zillion people..I understand that :) | 14:58 |
| mdp | ugh..corp townhall meeting time :( | 15:00 |
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| punit | can anyone suggest me how to add a external application in Qt MainWindow. i tried QX11EmbedContainer but external application is running outside mainwindow | 15:35 |
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| poutsi | punit, do you want to grab an app that's already running or start a new one? | 15:39 |
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| jeremiah | Getting an error with mic2 | 15:40 |
| jeremiah | Error: Please specify main repo name using --mainrepo option. | 15:40 |
| jeremiah | No mention of 'mainrepo' on http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=mic2;dist=unstable | 15:41 |
| punit | poutsi: i want to start a new one(carrick-connection-panel) | 15:41 |
| jeremiah | Sorry, I meant this page: http://wiki.meego.com/Image_Creation#From_Binary_Packages | 15:41 |
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| poutsi | punit, implement a tiny embedded X server and run the app in that :) | 15:42 |
| poutsi | or not implement so much as steal | 15:42 |
| mardy | punit: are you using libmeegotouch? | 15:45 |
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| CosmoHill | a typo has cost me hours of time | 16:10 |
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| Termana | CosmoHill: You must be programming C++? | 16:19 |
| Termana | :P | 16:19 |
| Phazorx | hrm... is three a way to work around this in meego: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/308191 ? | 16:20 |
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| CosmoHill | Termana: actually this was an xml file used to kickstart a installation | 16:28 |
| CosmoHill | or kickstat as I put >.< | 16:28 |
| punit | mardy : nops i am not using libmeegotouch | 16:29 |
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| CosmoHill | I think that typos cos me 5 mins :( | 17:34 |
| arjan | that's cheap | 17:35 |
| arjan | most typos cost 2 days of debugging | 17:35 |
| CosmoHill | that doesn't include debugging | 17:36 |
| CosmoHill | for example I got "error, now such value "-a" | 17:37 |
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| CosmoHill | I knew where it was and fixed it | 17:37 |
| CosmoHill | 5 mins later the image has been rebuilt | 17:37 |
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| CosmoHill | my debugging is probably a lot faster cos I don't have so much to look at | 17:38 |
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| CosmoHill | stupid thing "/mnt/win not found". It's not found cos it's not partitioned the disc like it's meant to | 17:47 |
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| CosmoHill | hometime :) | 18:07 |
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| CosmoHill | wb arjan | 19:13 |
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| fleury | mikhas: hi Michael, I just got your comment on the merge request. I agree with you. I'll change the signal name, do you think your suggestion (prepareForThemeChange) is fine then? Maybe "themeChanging" ? I'm fine with both | 19:16 |
| mikhas | heya fleury - I poked the maintainer of the module | 19:16 |
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| fleury | Nice, and what's the feedback? | 19:17 |
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| mikhas | yeah, propose "themeChanging" in a comment there | 19:17 |
| mikhas | no feedback yet ;-) | 19:17 |
| dneary | hi all | 19:17 |
| fleury | ah ok :-) | 19:17 |
| mikhas | but adding a signal should be simple | 19:17 |
| mikhas | or rather: since I follow the components ML, I agree that the signal is needed | 19:17 |
| fleury | :-) so you have a nice understanding of the rationale behind | 19:18 |
| mikhas | if you want to use the MTheme stuf outside of MTF, it becomes a necessity | 19:18 |
| fleury | yep | 19:18 |
| mikhas | (deep understand => ran into similar issues ;-) | 19:18 |
| timeless_mbp | did you cheat? :) | 19:18 |
| mikhas | timeless_mbp, me? sure, I always cheat ... | 19:19 |
| mikhas | hi dneary | 19:19 |
| fleury | hehe, that's actually the same reason I'm talking about in this one http://meego.gitorious.org/meegotouch/libmeegotouch/merge_requests/342 | 19:19 |
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| fleury | mikhas: ^ | 19:21 |
| mikhas | oh that stuff ... | 19:21 |
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| fleury | hehe | 19:22 |
| mikhas | try calling that function with a pixmap size greater than the memory in your box ;-) | 19:22 |
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| fleury | X will complain? | 19:23 |
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| slonopotamus | a kitten will definitely die | 19:23 |
| timeless_mbp | x complaints are generally death sentences... | 19:23 |
| fleury | Hehe I'm being kind :) | 19:24 |
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| mikhas | fleury, on the positive side, this MR was not rejected yet ;-) | 19:25 |
| Phazorx | talking about megotouch - has UTouch been even considered as alternative? | 19:25 |
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| mikhas | which means: you probably have a point there | 19:25 |
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| fleury | Like, from LMT side, my understanding is that returning null pixmaps is a bug, and a sign of that is the fact that the documentation said the method does soemthing it does not. | 19:26 |
| Aard | 19:26 | |
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| mikhas | fleury, yup | 19:26 |
| mikhas | async pixmap requests are intended to be "fire and forget", from the application side | 19:26 |
| fleury | The other request, keep the size of invalid pixmaps to 1x1, then that's more of a personal request, since my use case is not mainstream | 19:26 |
| mikhas | a null pixmap certainly doesnt fit into that | 19:27 |
| fleury | yup | 19:27 |
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| mikhas | fleury, you could also consider filing bugs at bugs.meego.com for this | 19:31 |
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| fleury | mikhas: nice, is that the more usual workflow in meego? | 19:32 |
| mikhas | bugs are more visible | 19:33 |
| mikhas | best way actually is: 1. bug report, 2. solution in patch/MR, referencing the bug | 19:33 |
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| arfoll | is the community OBS playing up? | 19:34 |
| arfoll | Processing files: imlib2-1.4.4-10.1.i586 | 19:34 |
| arfoll | getOutputFrom(): Broken pipe | 19:34 |
| arfoll | [ 69.707585] SysRq : Power Off | 19:34 |
| arfoll | [ 70.703371] Power down. | 19:34 |
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| mikhas | andre__, (andre?), where to I find MTF on bugs.meego.com? | 19:34 |
| mikhas | I think I should follow that component ... | 19:34 |
| slonopotamus | arfoll: maaan! i told ya, don't press that button! | 19:34 |
| mikhas | ah, Handset UX > libmeegotouch | 19:35 |
| andre__ | mikhas: It's andre__. ;-) | 19:35 |
| andre__ | you're welcome. :-P | 19:35 |
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| arfoll | slonopotamus, ok so it is broken? Cause that's fine it's good to know i'm not just being dumb | 19:35 |
| fleury | nice, I'll follow that | 19:36 |
| slonopotamus | arfoll: no idea actually :) just last two lines looked funny :) | 19:36 |
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| mikhas | andre, can you change this "handheld-libdui-bugs@meego.bugs" to handheld-wtf err handheld-mtf-bugs@...? | 19:36 |
| mikhas | we dont drive under the influence any longer ;-) | 19:37 |
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| arfoll | slonopotamus, sorry humour is on holiday today... | 19:37 |
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| andre__ | mikhas, file a bug. I'm not a bugs.meego.com maintainer. (I think so, at least, never tried if I have permissions.) | 19:37 |
| mikhas | aaah | 19:37 |
| mikhas | how come! | 19:37 |
| andre__ | why should? | 19:38 |
| mikhas | 1. it's a bugzilla bugtracker, 2. ... ;-) | 19:38 |
| andre__ | I don't yell for administrating yet another bugzilla. Already have some. ;-) | 19:38 |
| andre__ | mikhas: Tell Intel/Nokia/whoever that I'm a nice person, promise them some cookies or cake, make them give me permissions, done? :-P | 19:39 |
| mikhas | yeah yeah | 19:39 |
| lcuk | andre__, I think you need cokies also with that don't you? :) | 19:40 |
| lcuk | cookies even | 19:41 |
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| andre__ | lcuk: some cookie crumbs under your keys? ;-) | 19:42 |
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| lcuk | i wish | 19:42 |
| lcuk | cookies are delicious but I haven't had any all year | 19:42 |
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| X-Fade | andre__: Don't let it go old. Kill it ;) | 19:45 |
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| renato | lbt, is it ready yet? | 20:17 |
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| renato | :D | 20:17 |
| mikhas | fleury, got your bug mail ;-) | 20:20 |
| mikhas | BMC#5828 - now include that in the MR's commit subject somewhere, like "Fixes: BMC#5828" | 20:20 |
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| lbt | renato: it built it's first package tonight | 20:25 |
| lbt | we're working on the arm setup right now | 20:25 |
| lbt | and I've made a logo | 20:25 |
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| renato | lbt, nice, if you want I have some packages to test, we just finished the pyside-mobility and almost finished meego touch | 20:34 |
| renato | bindings | 20:34 |
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| Stskeeps | DawnFoster: is there any easy way to export current session proposals? | 21:36 |
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| DawnFoster | stskeeps: we have an admin function to export them in csv | 21:36 |
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| DawnFoster | as someone on the selection committee, you should have access to it. | 21:37 |
| DawnFoster | when you log in, do you see a little wrench in the upper left corner of the screen? | 21:37 |
| Stskeeps | nop | 21:37 |
| lcuk | DawnFoster, if you have a little wench in the corner you are on the wrong website | 21:39 |
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| DawnFoster | stskeeps: mrshaver is giving you access now | 21:41 |
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| Stskeeps | DawnFoster: thanks - i have some spare time so it would be a good time to preliminarily read some | 21:42 |
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| Stskeeps | ah, i see it now :) | 21:43 |
| DawnFoster | stskeeps - cool | 21:43 |
| Stskeeps | thanks :) | 21:43 |
| DawnFoster | stskeeps: we're still working on improving the reports, so let us know if you need anything else | 21:44 |
| DawnFoster | it should also give you access to do other things after the committee starts approving sessions | 21:45 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, i was mainly fishing for the presentation proposals in one single readable document | 21:45 |
| Stskeeps | will see if i can make csv output do that | 21:45 |
| lbt | do I get the feeling that you got more than expected at one point? | 21:46 |
| DawnFoster | also has RSS format (anyone can get access to that) | 21:46 |
| DawnFoster | lbt: more session proposals? | 21:46 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, at least RSS only showed a few proposals | 21:46 |
| lbt | yes | 21:46 |
| Stskeeps | but that might just be my reader | 21:46 |
| DawnFoster | lbt: I'd say that this is about what we were hoping for | 21:47 |
| DawnFoster | I'm really happy with the number / quality | 21:47 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: think we're going to be able to put together a pretty interesting program, yeah | 21:47 |
| DawnFoster | we extended the deadline to Friday to fill in a few gaps, but overall it's looking really good | 21:47 |
| lbt | *nod* ... I wondered if there could be some consolidation in the meego apps/garage/obs area | 21:47 |
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| lbt | anyhow... you need to get a handle on it first.... good luck :) | 21:49 |
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| Dignity | hi2all | 22:00 |
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| Dignity | i am online or not? | 22:02 |
| slonopotamus | nope | 22:02 |
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| alt-route | Hi. what type of browser will Meego use? chrome? | 22:57 |
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| GAN900 | Depends on the Ux | 22:58 |
| GAN900 | and possibly vendors will wander, too. | 22:58 |
| GAN900 | But Chrome, Firefox or Fennec seem to be the choices. | 22:59 |
| slonopotamus | GAN900, they all are gtk | 22:59 |
| slonopotamus | GAN900, ain't meego moving to qt? | 22:59 |
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| GAN900 | slonopotamus, dunno the specifics of the toolkits, but that's what they're using right now. | 23:00 |
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| alt-route | GAN900: I see.. | 23:01 |
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| alt-route | GAN900: Thanks! | 23:02 |
| Stskeeps | fennec-qt exits | 23:02 |
| Stskeeps | exists | 23:02 |
| alt-route | Doesn't qt include a webkit widget? is that good enough to build a complete browser on top of it? | 23:03 |
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| arjan | the html rendering piece is almost the simplest part of what makes a browser a browser | 23:06 |
| alt-route | I guess it still needs a javascript engine.. | 23:09 |
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| TSCHAKeee | the javascript engine is in there too as part of webkit | 23:11 |
| * TSCHAKeee built a simple browser for LinuxMCE using the webkit embedded in Qt | 23:11 | |
| alt-route | cool | 23:12 |
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| alt-route | what's still needed besides the UI to do things like navigation and settings then?? | 23:13 |
| ali1234 | not much | 23:14 |
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| vlj | Stskeeps: ping | 23:14 |
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| Stskeeps | plonk | 23:15 |
| vlj | you're from the maemo community right ? | 23:15 |
| Stskeeps | sortof | 23:15 |
| vlj | does the nokia compiler for maemo "understands" boost library ? | 23:16 |
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| Stskeeps | it's gcc | 23:16 |
| Stskeeps | and not sure | 23:16 |
| vlj | I've heard it is based on gcc, but old version | 23:16 |
| vlj | I've tryed some times ago with symbian 60v50 SDK and qt | 23:17 |
| vlj | but the compiler has some lack | 23:17 |
| vlj | it did not support flex/bison output | 23:17 |
| Stskeeps | gcc4.2, yeah | 23:18 |
| thiago_home | fremantle uses gcc 4.2 (codesourcery 2007q3) | 23:18 |
| vlj | and meego arm build ? | 23:18 |
| thiago_home | gcc 4.5 | 23:19 |
| Stskeeps | (thank god) | 23:19 |
| thiago_home | harmattan uses 4.3 right now (2009q1) | 23:19 |
| vlj | err what is harmattan ? | 23:19 |
| thiago_home | the upgrade from fremantle | 23:19 |
| vlj | ok | 23:19 |
| vlj | maemo 5.5 ? | 23:19 |
| thiago_home | 6 | 23:19 |
| vlj | so maemo won't become meego ? | 23:20 |
| thiago_home | it will, later | 23:20 |
| thiago_home | with maemo 7 | 23:20 |
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| vlj | ok | 23:22 |
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| thiago_home | maemo 6 and meego 1.x are very close to one another already | 23:23 |
| thiago_home | but there are still a couple of differences | 23:23 |
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| jedix | a few letters? | 23:23 |
| thiago_home | a little more than that | 23:23 |
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