IRC log of #meego for Monday, 2010-08-16

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thopiekarhow is the path called to the meego installer?00:38
Cosmo[PB]care to reword that into something I can understand?00:38
Cosmo[PB]do you want to go from the live image to the installer?00:39
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tremnite all, sweet dreams00:52
Cosmo[PB]bye trem00:55
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niadhI am trying to package vlc for meego but I have an error about a file not being able to be installed in a directory not ending with /usr/local/lib/ what does this mean?01:01
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sofareither /usr/local is entirely missing, not writeable by you (user meego) or something else01:03
Cosmo[PB]ls /usr/local01:04
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niadhits present and am root, i suspect my vlc.spec file may be at fault01:04
Cosmo[PB]did you make vlc.spec?01:05
sofarah01:05
sofaryou're not allowed to make rpm's that install in /usr/local by rule01:05
sofarif you're packaging vlc, make it install under /usr01:05
Cosmo[PB]if anything goes wrong you can rpm -e01:05
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niadhThe spec file prefix is /usr not /usr/local01:06
Cosmo[PB]did you make VLC yourself?01:06
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niadhJust compiled it myself using the rpm build process01:07
niadhit compiled but bailed at %install01:07
Cosmo[PB]can I see it?01:07
niadhSure, just the spec file?01:07
Cosmo[PB]yeah01:07
niadhSure01:07
sofarpastebot it?01:07
Cosmo[PB]pastebin?01:08
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niadhpastebin.ca/191768001:09
niadhI know theres nothing in the files section, until it builds correctly the first time i dont know what files to add to that section01:10
Cosmo[PB]I see01:10
Cosmo[PB]./configure --prefix=/usr01:10
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Cosmo[PB]make install DESTDIR=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT01:10
niadhThought thats what the %prefix value was for01:11
niadh?01:11
Cosmo[PB]hmm01:11
Cosmo[PB]I missed that01:11
Cosmo[PB]don't you have to use it tho?01:11
Cosmo[PB]./configure --prefix=%{prefix} ?01:11
niadhNo idea, I have hacked only three packages together in a trial and error manner01:12
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niadhI may be well wrond01:12
niadhworng*01:12
Cosmo[PB]hehe01:12
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niadhWill try your suggestion, see if it works01:13
Cosmo[PB]I think "prefix" might only be used if you use %configure01:13
sofarthere's no need to %define name first01:13
sofarjust do `Name: vlc`01:13
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sofarmacros01:14
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sofarsame for the other macros01:14
Cosmo[PB]night night01:14
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niadhsofar: I dont fully understand, can you explain further01:16
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sofardon't make %define lines01:16
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sofarjust write lines like: "Name : vlc"01:16
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niadhOk, why?01:16
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sofarrpm internally will make the %defines for you01:16
niadhCool01:17
niadhI was just using part of a hello world spec file so mine will be rather basic atm01:17
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ngocketithello07:07
ngocketitany of you know about current status of Web Runtime framework in Meego?07:08
ngocketitI mean when will it be available?07:08
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sofarngocketit: ask again tomorrow, and I'll see if there's a timeline planned07:55
ngocketit@sofar: thanks07:55
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slithytove2006is htere a way to require a password at login on a netbook installation?08:52
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TrollkarlenI am having some trouble creating a armv7el handset image on a ubuntu 9.10 system, i get this error: No such file or directory: 'meego/handset/.mic2-cli601.mic2pipe'09:36
TrollkarlenIm using a --bootstrap env if that helps.09:37
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Trollkarlenll10:49
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daubersHey all, I'm trying to get meego to boot on my n900 off a micro-ssd, and it doesn't seem to load. The kernel penguin icon appears briefly, then disappears then it goes to the standard nokia screen then switches off...12:18
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daubersHow do I diagnose this issue?12:20
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fcrozathi all. just wondering : is 1.0.2 for netbook released or not ? I'm not seeing a 1.0.2 directory at http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/13:19
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TrollkarlenI am having some trouble creating a armv7el handset image on a ubuntu 9.10 system, first of all the mic-image-creator script it self is not installed in the bootstrap env.13:25
TrollkarlenIf i fix that then the pipe cant be read inside the bootstrap env. error: No such file or directory: 'meego/handset/.mic2-cli601.mic2pipe'13:26
TrollkarlenIs it suposed to work ?13:26
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slainefcrozat: it's an incremental rollup of bug fixes13:32
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slainei.e. install and then upgrade13:33
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fcrozatslaine: expect the packages aren't on the repo ;)14:10
fcrozator I'm blind14:10
CosmoHillfcrozat: use "find" instead of looking14:10
slainehttp://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/updates/1.0/netbook/repos/ia32/packages/14:10
CosmoHillif it goes "phrase not found" then it's missing :(14:10
CosmoHill:) *14:11
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fcrozathmm, ok, I thought it was handled the same way as 1.0.114:12
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waow/ 3314:17
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TrollkarlenWhat package manager will be used yum or zypper ?14:46
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CosmoHillzypper14:46
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TrollkarlenNice, are all the issues solved that reverted to yum ?14:47
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CosmoHillI don;t know what the issues were14:48
CosmoHilli think someone said it was better in some ways and worse in others14:48
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MarcosFabiohi there, is anyone running fullscreen Qt applications in MeeGo?15:25
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A\b1`hi all15:32
CosmoHillhi15:32
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killeushi all15:44
CosmoHillhello15:44
killeusanybody knows how to set an application to be fullscreen on meego?15:44
killeusi tested with showFullscreen on Qt but it doesn't works15:44
CosmoHilldouble click on the top part of the window?15:45
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killeusand how to do it programatically?15:45
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CosmoHillask lcuk :)15:45
* CosmoHill runs away before lcuk knows what happening15:45
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lcukoi CosmoHill !! I saw that15:49
lcukand actually, I don't know off hand, killeus meego handset or meego netbook?15:49
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lcuklbt, he had tried here first15:52
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CosmoHillI'm off to uni, cyas15:52
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killeuslcuk: handset15:53
killeuslcuk: on n90015:53
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robotnOCanplease someone tell me when you got the last update of meego??16:00
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robotnOAnd another question.. Is someone here having problem with Empathy crashing alot and logging out with MSN accounts??16:08
robotnOThis is something that worked flawlessly for me with Moblin16:08
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CosmoHillhola16:45
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CosmoHillI go to get a drink and when I come back I find someone's come into my room (at uni) :o16:45
andre__lockers can help.16:46
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CosmoHillit's a computer lab16:47
DuckBootCosmoHill: Tripwire...16:47
CosmoHillhe says he can't print in A so he's come into B (my room)16:48
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CosmoHillif that's true I'm going to be flooded :o16:48
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lcukCosmoHill, put a warning sign on the door "room flooded, printers in section D (or any room on other side of campus)16:49
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CosmoHillthat would be so funny16:50
CosmoHillcos D is the office of education ^.^16:50
CosmoHilllcuk: oo better idea, a room on the other side of the OTHER campus :D16:51
CosmoHill"please use RAM 201, Cambridge"16:51
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lcuktell them to hold laptop up to the photocopier to print anything out16:52
CosmoHilland out a USB cable on the side to see how many of them are smart16:53
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CosmoHillah there's another one16:59
CosmoHillonce they're both gone I'm locking the door17:00
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* alt096 hi17:10
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CosmoHillhey alt17:14
Alt096:)17:15
CosmoHillI have to many nice on my desk17:17
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CosmoHillhey tekojo17:32
tekojohello!17:32
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CosmoHillfood!17:33
CosmoHillI'm being distracted17:34
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tekojoCosmoHill: never get distracted from food!17:34
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CosmoHilltekoholic: I'm in a lab with my friends18:00
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CosmoHillit's funny watching students shit themselfs18:55
CosmoHillin 5 min time they will have either handed in their assignments or fail18:56
CosmoHillUni is very strict, if the deadline is 5pm and you hand it in a 5:05pm you fail18:56
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timelessgood lesson18:57
ScottishDuckYeah at Uni you're either punctual or failing19:00
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achipaheh, reminds me of my old competition coding days... autosubmit results 5 minutes before deadline if I have not done so (and pray for synched clocks and no network errors :)19:02
CosmoHillmy switch is making very bad sounds :s19:03
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CosmoHillthis switch this so gonna die soon >.<19:08
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lbtI can't find hotel info on the meego conference site20:22
GAN900lbt, they're filtering for your IPs.20:23
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Stskeepslbt: hmm?20:24
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Stskeepsright hand side, hotels20:24
Stskeeps:)20:24
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lbtStskeeps: yeah.. I found the booking... need the prices20:26
lbt"our amazing rates"20:26
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lbtI have no idea who put "delegates should use MS Internet Explorer version 5.0 or higher" to complete the MeeGo conference booking form...20:30
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lcuklbt, does IE5 still exist on the planet? I was under the impression it self combusted a while ago20:34
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lbtyesh...20:35
CosmoHillIE for Mac was killed in 200520:35
CosmoHilli know this cos the factor image for my mac doesn't have IE5 but the restore disc does20:35
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GAN900CosmoHill, old Mac.20:36
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CosmoHillGAN900: I'm typing on it now ^.^20:37
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aukehmm20:39
aukesomeone asked this weekend about something, and I told them to re-ask it20:39
* auke can't remember20:40
Stskeepsauke, you also messaged me and i don't think you told me what it was about :)20:40
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aukeStskeeps: I got that part resolved20:40
Stskeepsk20:40
CosmoHillauke: so you have the "who" but not the "what"?20:40
aukeI think it was about the web runtime kit or something schedule20:41
Stskeepsah20:41
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Stskeepsany word on sreadahead patch or is it easiest if i submit a patch to the packaging instead?20:43
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CosmoHillI think I've turned into a lecturer20:54
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CosmoHillI'm looking at a first year student's code going "that's wrong, that's wrong, that doesn't even make sense" etc20:54
lcukwelcome to the world of professional code review :P20:55
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CosmoHillyay20:56
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andrewfblackWhat is up with the Meego Conference being Mon, Tues, and Wednesday?20:56
CosmoHillnow if only I could pronouce his name20:56
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CosmoHillandrewfblack: you tell your employer it's mon - fri and have a nice break20:56
lcukCosmoHill, http://www.osnews.com/story/19266/WTFs_m20:56
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Jaffaandrewfblack: It's a professional conference, intended to attract commercial vendors, h/w OEMs and networks, apparently20:57
CosmoHilllcuk: I may have help him with his assignment20:57
CosmoHillor helped him miss the deadline20:57
CosmoHillI'm not sure20:57
lcukCosmoHill, if members of your team are going to be around on the thu/fri it would actually make sense to stick around :P20:57
andrewfblackThis stops anyone who is out of vacation from going.  I get 3 weeks a year but I have to set my Vacation by end of Feb.20:57
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CosmoHilllcuk: hahah20:57
* Jaffa suggests we ignore that, get pissed and hack the place up.20:57
andrewfblackJaffa: so I take it devs aren't wanted to go them20:57
Jaffaandrewfblack: Hobbyist devs didn't seem to be the primary motivation, no :-/20:58
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lcukJaffa, you do recall where the conf is this time.  getting drunk is a profession over there - theres lots of practice been done :P20:58
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CosmoHillhmm20:59
andrewfblackWell I just unsigned up20:59
Jaffalcuk: Yeah, but I've never like Guinness. Murphy's is OK, but I prefer a proper ale20:59
JaffaOr wine20:59
JaffaOr um20:59
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CosmoHillcase zero is "break" which exits the while loop which exits on zero anyway20:59
Jaffa  ^r20:59
Jaffaandrewfblack: :-(20:59
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CosmoHilloh great, I have a email entitled "Female Participants Wanted" -.-21:04
StskeepsJaffa: uhm, that is really not the intention of the cfp. it's really inclusive.21:04
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Stskeepswould you invite l10n people to a suit and tie conference? :P21:05
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CosmoHilllcuk: I've just noticed this C code is named "accigment 2.cpp"21:07
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CosmoHillHaving just said that I couldn't spell "assignment" in my first year >.>21:07
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Stskeepstry writing about rehabiliation in your master's thesis and 'exersise' being one of your error-words21:08
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aukeCosmoHill: lol, and with a space too in the filename21:11
JaffaStskeeps: I'n not talking about the CfP. The dates, being a weekday, were mentioned as being more attractive to professionals, rather than hobbyists.21:11
StskeepsJaffa: and maemo summit was thursday to sunday21:12
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andrewfblackthursday to sunday wasn't as bad because you could go to a few days if you could only go weekends.21:13
Stskeepsyeah, but people also travel home sunday..21:13
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Stskeepswhich leaves very little time for actual presentations21:14
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lbtX-Fade: there seems to be intermittent nw connectivty issues to downloads.obs.maemo.org22:04
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vgradeHi X-Fade22:06
TSCHAKeeehmm, who said Nokia's last Fremantle update will be PR1.3 ?22:07
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vgradelbt, obs network issues, http://mg.pov.lt/meego-irclog/%23meego.2010-08-13.log.html#t2010-08-13T17:18:4622:11
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lbtI see the lighttpd got restarted22:11
lbtwhy do I run ldap and kerberos locally?22:12
vgradelbt, as usual there were a coupe of issues, first we could not see download... which X-Fade fixed then we had the issue with connections dropping22:12
Stskeepslbt: because you're a ldap fan?22:12
lbtit seemed like a good idea at the time22:12
lbt"You don't exist, go away!"22:13
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lbtvgrade: yes...22:14
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lbtthis looks like nw issues though... I think I need to let X-fade handle this...22:14
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lbthttp://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/linux-netdev/2009/4/19/551586422:16
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lbtwrt "unexpectedly shrunk window"22:16
lbtwhich I thought I knew22:17
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aukewow kerneltrap.org is still alive?22:18
lbtgoogle finds stuff there from time to time :)22:18
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CosmoHillauke: hehe yeah (sorry for delay)22:29
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madkohi guys, can't switch between zones anymore since meego 1.1, is that a known bug?23:24
madkoI mean with alt+tab23:24
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CosmoHillmadko: check on bugzilla23:30
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madkook I'm opening a new bug23:30
CosmoHilli mean check there first23:30
CosmoHillif there isn't one then make a new one :)23:30
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madkodone23:35
CosmoHillcool23:36
madkomy third report23:36
madkomeego is so cool I want it perfect23:36
* CosmoHill puts that quote on the front page23:36
madkohehe23:37
tremand we could see meego on N900 a day ?23:37
madkois there a way to reduce the height of the title bar of windows?23:37
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CosmoHillI typed in "meego n900" and yahoo is giving me Nokia N823:38
ScottishDuckI think it's telling you something23:40
ScottishDuckalso23:40
ScottishDuckyour using yahoo?23:40
CosmoHillyes23:40
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janithe daily wtf23:42
CosmoHilljani: you mean "life"?23:42
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CosmoHillit's daily and it\s wtf23:42
simulacrumICS Network - An Introduction to Meego -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY-HHfYeukk23:43
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tripzeromadko, no you can't reduce the height of the title bar, but apps can make it go away23:44
tripzerodisappear/reappear type thing23:44
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ali1234you can reduce the height by making the font smaller23:44
ScottishDuckso how are you folks feeling about the beta deadline23:44
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ScottishDuckor is it looking like being delayed23:44
janino, the yahoo =)23:45
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