| lbt | but "don't do a tarball" | 00:00 |
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| lbt | maybe they release from gitorious? | 00:00 |
| lbt | they don't have a download server? | 00:00 |
| arjan | (fwiw I severely regret meego picking gitorious for our stuff.. but that's a different story) | 00:00 |
| lbt | been to github recently :) | 00:01 |
| lbt | I am a bit disapointed... gitorious was very good initially | 00:02 |
| lbt | but it's not kept up | 00:02 |
| arjan | bit like sourceforge | 00:02 |
| arjan | was ok at first, then it rotted | 00:02 |
| lbt | I know Qt invested in them somehow | 00:03 |
| arjan | I appreciate that running infrastructure like this takes manpower /etc | 00:04 |
| arjan | but having someone else run it for you like this isn't per se better | 00:04 |
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| lbt | github is closed source though | 00:04 |
| lbt | AFAIK | 00:04 |
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| arjan | at least if you run your own git server stuff (like we did in moblin), if it breaks or something, it can be fixed by talking to the guy across the hall | 00:04 |
| lbt | *nod* | 00:05 |
| lbt | anyhow... ssse3 | 00:05 |
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| lbt | come on... | 00:05 |
| lbt | how do we get better? | 00:05 |
| lbt | Do I have to do it on the community OBS? | 00:05 |
| CosmoHill | lbt: can you summerise the past hower? | 00:05 |
| lbt | I will if I have to ... but I want it to be as part of core as possible | 00:05 |
| lbt | so we minimise divisions | 00:06 |
| lbt | and maximise appeal/accessibility | 00:06 |
| lbt | CosmoHill: ? | 00:07 |
| CosmoHill | *hour | 00:07 |
| lbt | sure... | 00:07 |
| lbt | [chat] | 00:07 |
| CosmoHill | if we're just moving onto ssse3 I'll start paying attention | 00:08 |
| lbt | nah... I seem to have frightened him off ;) | 00:08 |
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| ali1234 | what is the difference between the community obs and "core"? | 00:09 |
| CosmoHill | that''s easy, just sit on his lap | 00:09 |
| ali1234 | surely the community obs *is* the core, and anything else is an adjunct? | 00:09 |
| lbt | you'd think | 00:09 |
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| lcuk | lbt, poke you may hve someone on #maemo with an app you can have a poke at | 00:09 |
| ali1234 | yes, i very much would think... | 00:09 |
| lbt | but MeeGo's idea of community is | 00:10 |
| lbt | innovative | 00:10 |
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| ali1234 | lol | 00:10 |
| lbt | so we have MeeGo.com | 00:10 |
| jani | lbt: with or without quotes ? =) | 00:10 |
| lbt | mmm | 00:10 |
| lcuk | jani, its got /n quotes around it ;) | 00:10 |
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| ali1234 | lbt: is the community obs the one currently running on a maemo.org address? | 00:10 |
| lbt | yes | 00:11 |
| lbt | but we have a bigger one too | 00:11 |
| lbt | which I've not finished yet | 00:11 |
| lbt | that will form the new garage/autobuilder | 00:11 |
| lbt | we could fork MeeGo on there to build an ssse3... that would be.... insane | 00:12 |
| lbt | err non-ssse3 | 00:12 |
| ali1234 | why? | 00:12 |
| ali1234 | it seems clear nobody else is going to do it | 00:12 |
| lbt | because meego.com is supposed to be a baseline reference implementation | 00:12 |
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| lbt | not an "optimised for intel only" | 00:13 |
| ali1234 | it's supposed to be a lot of thing :) | 00:13 |
| lbt | indeed | 00:13 |
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| lcuk | lbt, its so optimised for intel | 00:13 |
| lcuk | 100% of the intel chipset boxes here won't run it | 00:13 |
| lbt | however... if it's not optimised ... people will point and laugh and say how slow it is | 00:13 |
| lbt | you can't win | 00:13 |
| lbt | lcuk: I know... it's madness | 00:13 |
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| ali1234 | there is no reason why anyone would ever install the non-ssse3 version | 00:14 |
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| lbt | In a large company I know, the developers can't build images on their Intel laptops | 00:14 |
| ali1234 | well unless they specicially knew what it was and why they wanted it | 00:14 |
| * lcuk specifically spend £600 on an intel chipset 20" multitouch all in one pc for meego messing | 00:14 | |
| jani | lbt: case by case, dvcs.pmo wasnt much faster either. | 00:14 |
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| ali1234 | what i meant was, you wouldn't make an img and put it on the front page | 00:14 |
| lcuk | when I could have gotten a better AMD one for less | 00:14 |
| lbt | lcuk: they made a sale ... woohoo... how much mindshare are we losing | 00:15 |
| lbt | how much "buzz" | 00:15 |
| lcuk | well indeed | 00:15 |
| lcuk | this machine is powerful enough to run windows 7 fancy pants stuff | 00:15 |
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| lbt | jani: not sure what you meant there? | 00:16 |
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| jani | lbt: git on projects.maemo.org .. it was dead slow and down quite often.. comparing that to gitorious, things are much better atleast for us =) | 00:17 |
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| lbt | yes, very true | 00:17 |
| CosmoHill | is there a way to tell if a binary has SSSE3 optimisation? | 00:17 |
| lbt | gitorious is reasonably | 00:17 |
| lbt | reliable | 00:17 |
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| lbt | CosmoHill: does it crash on AMD? | 00:18 |
| ali1234 | CosmoHill: you'd have to disassemble it and look at the used instructions | 00:18 |
| ali1234 | i thnk someone made a script to do it? | 00:18 |
| jani | mm.. i got one week to go to come up with some things to talk about in dublin. | 00:18 |
| CosmoHill | so I can't run a nice command in /usr/bin and find out what uses it and what doesn't? | 00:18 |
| ali1234 | well if you think objdump is a nice command... | 00:18 |
| CosmoHill | never heard of it before | 00:19 |
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| jani | but hey, lbt or anyone, has anyone tried gold on meego or maemo ? | 00:20 |
| ali1234 | CosmoHill: objdump --disassemble-all <binary> | grep (PSIGNB|PSIGNW|...) | 00:20 |
| lbt | ali .... msg | 00:20 |
| lbt | gold? | 00:20 |
| ali1234 | CosmoHill: or something like that. full list of instructions at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSSE3#New_Instructions | 00:20 |
| CosmoHill | thanks | 00:21 |
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| jani | lbt: its ld replacement, it should be part of the official binutils - still beta thou but apparently it is supposed to be quite a lot faster | 00:21 |
| jani | lbt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_%28linker%29 | 00:22 |
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| * lbt looks | 00:23 | |
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| CosmoHill | objdump gave me 576888 lines for /bin/bash | 00:24 |
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| lbt | jani: Qt !!! | 00:25 |
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| jani | for maemo it might be a bit too late ofcourse and im not really sure about its arm support but for x86 it should quite nice. | 00:25 |
| lbt | jani: when we get the OBS up you'll be able to use that easily | 00:27 |
| lbt | OK ... bedtime | 00:28 |
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| CosmoHill | i should just make a script that runs everything in /bin and tells me what fails | 00:29 |
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| ali1234 | CosmoHill: that might not work, without the proper args, you might not hit any ssse3 instructions | 00:37 |
| ali1234 | CosmoHill: yeah objdump is going to output a lot, that's why you grep it :) | 00:38 |
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| CosmoHill | I've not found any flags yet | 00:43 |
| CosmoHill | but I've found a cookie :D | 00:43 |
| ali1234 | btw objdump outputs instruction names lower case, so my example was wrong on that count :) | 00:43 |
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| CosmoHill | cookie > SSSE3 | 00:47 |
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| ali1234 | objdump --disassemble-all <binary> | grep " \(psign[bwd]\|pabs[bwd]\|palignr\|pshufb\|pmulhrsw\|pmaddubsw\|phsub[wd]\|phsubsw\|phadd[wd]\|phaddsw\) " | wc -l | 00:52 |
| ali1234 | CosmoHill: that should cover it ^ | 00:52 |
| CosmoHill | thanks | 00:54 |
| ali1234 | should output the number of ssse3 instructions in the bianry | 00:55 |
| * CosmoHill gives ali1234 a cookie | 00:55 | |
| CosmoHill | s/cookie/smarties cookie/ | 00:55 |
| CosmoHill | http://black-flag.co.uk/files/meego-on-p4.jpg | 00:56 |
| CosmoHill | something people maybe interested in when it comes to the non-ssse3 debate | 00:57 |
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| ali1234 | well apparently the person who did that has "been hanging out on the Meego IRC channel" - so if you're listening, care to tell us how you did it? | 01:02 |
| CosmoHill | ? | 01:03 |
| arjan | maybe using the patch to emulate missing instructions in the kernel (or with a preload lib) | 01:03 |
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| arjan | you can emulate instructions your cpu does not have quite well | 01:06 |
| ali1234 | i didn't know there was such a patch... link please? | 01:06 |
| arjan | either via a kernel hack or an ld preload library | 01:06 |
| arjan | http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0206.3/0631.html <-- old kernel hack that google found for me | 01:07 |
| arjan | doing it as ld preload isn't too hard .. SIGILL is sent when an instruction is executed that the cpu does not grok | 01:07 |
| ali1234 | ah so you don't know that it exists specifically for ssse3? | 01:07 |
| arjan | for ssse3? not that I know of | 01:08 |
| arjan | but you could add the ssse3 instructions if you want | 01:08 |
| arjan | shouldn't be too hard | 01:08 |
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| smoku | osc local build tries to use 'rpm -ba' to build package. how do I reconfigure it to use rpmbuild? | 01:14 |
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| arjan | odd.. mine doesn't seem to | 01:19 |
| arjan | oh wait I normally do osc build | 01:19 |
| smoku | + exec rpm -ba --define '_srcdefattr (-,root,root)' /home/abuild/rpmbuild/SOURCES/libhildon.spec | 01:21 |
| smoku | -ba: unknown option | 01:21 |
| smoku | it should be: exec rpmbuild -ba ... | 01:22 |
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| CosmoHill | ba is a rpmbuild flag, not rpm | 01:24 |
| smoku | exactly! | 01:24 |
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| Nervengift | hi, is there a possibility to test the meego handsetversion in virtualbox? | 01:34 |
| timeless | iirc it's technically possible but moderately painful, and not supported | 01:35 |
| CosmoHill | Nervengift: you can use the meego core | 01:35 |
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| CosmoHill | but not the GUI | 01:35 |
| Nervengift | hmm too bad | 01:36 |
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| GAN900 | I can't believe it's such an outlandish idea running MeeGo in a vm. . . . | 01:45 |
| arjan | can900: the hard part is the netbook ui... | 01:45 |
| Nervengift | netbook? | 01:46 |
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| arjan | doing advanced 3d stuff (well.. any 3d to be honest) is kinda new toVMs | 01:46 |
| arjan | but the handset UI is using opengl/gles as well | 01:46 |
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| trip0 | opengl support in vm's isn't very old | 01:48 |
| Nervengift | but it exists | 01:48 |
| arjan | there are patches and stuff | 01:50 |
| arjan | so yes some people got it to work | 01:50 |
| arjan | but that's why timeless said | 01:50 |
| arjan | <Nervengift> hi, is there a possibility to test the meego handsetversion in virtualbox? | 01:50 |
| arjan | <timeless> iirc it's technically possible but moderately painful, and not supported | 01:50 |
| arjan | today it's not "click and go" yet. | 01:51 |
| arjan | apparently qemu/kvm are making progress there thoguh | 01:51 |
| Nervengift | i think i'll just try^^ | 01:51 |
| arjan | make sure you google this | 01:52 |
| arjan | someone wrote a howto etc | 01:52 |
| Nervengift | yes i'll do so | 01:53 |
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| vgrade | you go out for a few beers and miss all the fun | 02:33 |
| ScottishDuck | yeah, what a loser socialising | 02:34 |
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| trem | nite all, sweet dreams | 02:44 |
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| CosmoHill | cyas | 02:53 |
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| spenca | hi | 03:38 |
| spenca | all | 03:38 |
| spenca | anyone home? | 03:38 |
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| jani | there are those who join and part in a minute.. | 03:50 |
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| jani | and those who join and never /part, waiting for an answer. go figure - attention span ftw! | 03:51 |
| ali1234 | hmm i think i'm getting somewhere. instead of using obs_mirror_project i can use obs_mirror_srcrpmtree | 03:51 |
| ali1234 | or at least i could if i could figure out how to check out the empty project with osc | 03:52 |
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| conor | fgfg | 03:54 |
| ali1234 | looks like i totally broke osc: http://pastebin.com/gttP8r6s | 03:56 |
| conor | ff | 03:57 |
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| ali1234 | oh i see, i used wrong url, shoudl have used port 81 | 04:02 |
| ali1234 | i think it is working :) | 04:04 |
| ali1234 | i see packages appearing on the obs web interface | 04:07 |
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| ali1234 | well that didn't work | 06:03 |
| ali1234 | obs_import_srcrpmtree just created an empty directory in the project for each rpm | 06:03 |
| ali1234 | no source code or anything | 06:03 |
| ali1234 | i have to wonder why it took two hours just to do that | 06:04 |
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| slithytove2006 | is it possible to run a LAMP installation under meego? | 06:16 |
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| psycho_oreos | Hi, all! Does someone knows if I can use rsync to create a mirror of MeeGo repository? | 07:43 |
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| trip0 | psycho_oreos, probably | 08:24 |
| psycho_oreos | trip0, well that's not really helpful, I've searched through irclogs and didn't find much pointers on the url of the repo | 08:25 |
| trip0 | do you have meego installed? | 08:26 |
| psycho_oreos | not yet, am planning to inside virtual machine | 08:27 |
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| psycho_oreos | the main issue I'm facing now is small bandwidth (due to monthly quota) and so to counteract that, before I get shaped again I'm planning to create a local mirror so I won't suffer as much | 08:30 |
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| trip0 | bummer | 08:45 |
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| trip0 | probably won't work well in a virtual machine | 08:46 |
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| psycho_oreos | what do you mean it won't work well in virtual machine? it will if its setup right | 09:17 |
| trip0 | virtual machines don't do opengl very well | 09:30 |
| psycho_oreos | yeah well that's besides the point for now, I just need to figure out if I can rsync the meego repo or not.. for what reason they chose to use rpm is beyond me | 09:38 |
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| trip0 | well, yanno, religious beliefs and stuff | 09:59 |
| trip0 | :P | 09:59 |
| trip0 | when others wake up, they may be more helpful on the rsync front | 10:00 |
| trip0 | my brain has gone to sleep | 10:00 |
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| Phazorx | in meego - where do i need to put kernel module and what i need to configure for them to be automatically picked up at boot? | 11:01 |
| sofar | is it specifically built for meego? | 11:02 |
| sofar | if so, use the build routines to install it | 11:02 |
| Phazorx | err... no exactly | 11:02 |
| sofar | if you have to do something like that manually, it won't work | 11:03 |
| sofar | you can't mix kernel modules and kernels | 11:03 |
| Phazorx | well i did build it, and it was done w/in meego | 11:03 |
| Phazorx | and it does work with given kernel | 11:03 |
| Phazorx | i just want to make it presists across reboots | 11:03 |
| sofar | insmod module.ko works? | 11:03 |
| Phazorx | yup | 11:03 |
| Phazorx | and dmesg reports what it was supposed to | 11:04 |
| sofar | why not use the builds' code to `make install` ? | 11:04 |
| Phazorx | and modinfo shows what i was expecting to saee | 11:04 |
| Phazorx | there isnt any code there :) | 11:04 |
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| Phazorx | pakager kinda forgot to make proper makefile | 11:04 |
| sofar | in that case, you can copy your module to /lib/modules/`uname -r`/... underneath there somewhere | 11:05 |
| sofar | there should be an etc. file where you can add it to force loading | 11:05 |
| Phazorx | and for kernel being aware that it needs it ? | 11:05 |
| Phazorx | well i dont see /etc/rc.modules | 11:05 |
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| Phazorx | or in fact i dont see anytihng in /etc with "modules" in name | 11:05 |
| sofar | well, the kernel module itself should advertise to the kernel what devices it supports | 11:05 |
| sofar | make sure to run depmod | 11:06 |
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| sofar | in /etc/sysconfig perhaps? not entirely sure where meego keeps that | 11:06 |
| Phazorx | depmod as is not location specific is it? | 11:06 |
| sofar | no, just run depmod after you cp the file | 11:06 |
| Phazorx | thought so | 11:07 |
| sofar | you can always just make an init.d script that runs modprobe | 11:07 |
| Phazorx | and i guess i need to do that after every kernelupdate? | 11:07 |
| sofar | yes | 11:07 |
| Phazorx | well i know many way to do devious things to modules on wariery of distros... but i am wonderong what is *proper* way to do it on meego :) | 11:07 |
| sofar | make it builtin to the kernel | 11:08 |
| sofar | submit the code to dev.meego.com | 11:08 |
| sofar | have it merged into meego | 11:08 |
| sofar | there you go, the proper way :) | 11:09 |
| Phazorx | i filed a bug report with same pointers i used to make things happened here | 11:09 |
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| sofar | can I ask what driver/module this is? | 11:09 |
| Phazorx | and i dont think that what did here is standard enough to be submitted | 11:09 |
| Phazorx | i kinda lack knowledge to do it properly :) | 11:10 |
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| Phazorx | samsung-backlight stolen from here https://launchpad.net/~voria/+archive/ppa/+packages | 11:10 |
| Phazorx | and i need to do something about xorg-synaptics as well | 11:10 |
| Phazorx | but that is a different story i guess | 11:11 |
| Phazorx | and i'll need more help with that :) | 11:11 |
| Phazorx | does it matter where i shove *.ko's in /lib/modules tree? | 11:18 |
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| joris_imp | I tried to create an account on meego.com, but failed. I did not receive any email and could not log in. Who can I contact with this problem? | 13:31 |
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| aboyer | i have setup a meego chroot environment on my system (amd cpu, nvidia gfx, kubuntu). is it possible to launch qtcreator from within the chroot environment? | 13:39 |
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| thiago_home | yes | 13:40 |
| aboyer | from what i understand, the limitations regarding intel hardware only apply to the simulator | 13:40 |
| aboyer | how? | 13:40 |
| thiago_home | yes | 13:40 |
| thiago_home | type: qtcreator | 13:40 |
| aboyer | qtcreator.bin: cannot connect to X server :0 | 13:40 |
| thiago_home | is DISPLAY set? | 13:41 |
| aboyer | now matter what i set for DISPLAY, i always get that error | 13:41 |
| thiago_home | then it's your xauth settings | 13:41 |
| thiago_home | copy your $HOME/.xauth to inside the chroot | 13:41 |
| aboyer | i don't have an xauth... | 13:43 |
| aboyer | duh! you need to copy it to /root and not /home/meego | 13:49 |
| aboyer | thx | 13:49 |
| thiago_home | why are you trying to run a chroot qtcreator anyway? | 13:49 |
| aboyer | following the instructions here http://wiki.meego.com/Hello_World_-_MeeGo_x86_development_on_Linux | 13:50 |
| thiago_home | you shouldn't need to chroot, except for building some complex packages | 13:50 |
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| aboyer | is there a better/easier way to go about developping apps (that depend not only on qt but also gstreamer) for meego | 13:50 |
| thiago_home | if you want to depend on gstreamer, probably you need to chroot | 13:51 |
| thiago_home | but that's only for the final build | 13:51 |
| thiago_home | for now, use your own distro's equivalents | 13:51 |
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| aboyer | but i also want to test things on the device, my app also depends on opengl es... | 13:52 |
| thiago_home | is your app done already, ready for testing? | 13:53 |
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| aboyer | it's built for maemo, i'm looking into how to port/build it for meego | 13:54 |
| thiago_home | ah, ok | 13:54 |
| thiago_home | if it exists already, then chroot by all means :-) | 13:54 |
| thiago_home | I thought you were just starting | 13:54 |
| aboyer | well, just starting with meego :) | 13:54 |
| thiago_home | I meant with your app | 13:55 |
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| Macer | http://i.imgur.com/Kfh36.jpg | 15:23 |
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| Macer | eek | 15:23 |
| Macer | talk about gridlock | 15:23 |
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| Macer | well. looks like oracle pulled a nokia and killed opensolaris | 16:08 |
| dm8tbr | they just rebranded to closedsolais... | 16:11 |
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| Macer | solaricle | 16:16 |
| Macer | it sucks :) | 16:16 |
| Macer | i am a pretty huge fan of opensolaris too. it is great and it is a shame they have gone and simply pulled the rug out from under people's feet | 16:17 |
| leinir | *cough* mandriva *cough* ;) | 16:17 |
| Macer | but eventually someonen will make an open alternative to whatever it is they are trying to accomplish and companies will find out that it is better than what oracle has and they will start to slowly lose their market share | 16:17 |
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| lcuk | meego in space :p http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l71szdoFT11qzpwi0o1_400.jpg | 17:02 |
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| arfoll | To any maemo OBS people - I've been trying to find a way to disable rpmlint in my obs project config (or in the package), but I cannot seem to find a way without having a yaml file. Is there a way around? I made an autoyaml file using the meego spectacle tool and that just borked the package completely | 17:14 |
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| lbt | arfoll: I think there's a package you can negate in the buildrequires | 17:22 |
| lbt | I think auke knows about spectacle and autoyaml (though he may only care about autospectacle... not sure how they're related) | 17:23 |
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| arfoll | lbt, I think i got an answer from a guy on #opensuse-buildersvice | 17:24 |
| lbt | ok, neat. You may want to put something on the MeeGo wiki... :) | 17:24 |
| lbt | even links to that page | 17:25 |
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| arfoll | I will actually, becasue I'm sure i'm not the first to tear my hair off with this mess | 17:25 |
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| vgrade | lbt, Goto Repository working now thanks | 17:52 |
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| ali1234 | right, i'm going to have to start over. obs completely imploded, no i just get weird security errors no matter what i try to do on the webif, and osc just runs and runs and runs until python dies from exceeding the recursion limit | 18:11 |
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| niadh | Hi can someone help me package something for meego? | 18:42 |
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| cobra-the-joker | hey guys ... is meego in a stable state now ? | 18:43 |
| niadh | What do you mean by stable? | 18:43 |
| niadh | In what way was it NOT stable for you? | 18:43 |
| cobra-the-joker | for public use | 18:43 |
| cobra-the-joker | i didnt use it before ... but i am willing if its stable :D | 18:43 |
| Stskeeps | what ux? | 18:44 |
| cobra-the-joker | you know ... beta or something like that | 18:44 |
| niadh | Well i have been using it for weeks now after its release and its nice | 18:44 |
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| niadh | It has its own user interface though so dont expect gnome or kde | 18:45 |
| BluesLee | cobra-the-joker: its usable on a netbook | 18:45 |
| cobra-the-joker | hmmm .... is it has a base distro for ...or just independant ? | 18:45 |
| berndhs | niadh, by "packaging" you mean making an rpm that installs ? or getting something into the repos ? | 18:47 |
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| BluesLee | Stskeeps: by the way, are there any plans to develop a kind of universal multiboot concept for meego or use an existing one? | 18:47 |
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| niadh | I want to build my own rpms for meego, as per the tutorial in the forums, i wanna build vlc, but i dont wanna dump unpackaged files all over my system so wanna build vlc + deps so everyone can install it | 18:48 |
| BluesLee | Stskeeps: users want to try out nitdroid, backup menu, ubuntu, meego etc | 18:48 |
| niadh | If it makes it into the repos so much the better but thats not my first aim | 18:48 |
| berndhs | i have made some rpms, the seem to install ok, for some libs and apps | 18:49 |
| BluesLee | Stskeeps: in some cases their installation methods contradict each other | 18:49 |
| berndhs | all you need is to make a .spec file, and the standard rpm tools | 18:50 |
| niadh | Well I am having an issue with libmad, maybe coz i have done something wrong but since this is my first exploration into rpms I wont know what I have done wrong. Am trying to build the rpm from the spec file inside the sdk emulator | 18:50 |
| berndhs | i can check it out here, i have a laptop that runs meego | 18:51 |
| Stskeeps | BluesLee: reusing is always good | 18:51 |
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| berndhs | spec files are simple but mysterious | 18:51 |
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| niadh | pastebin.com/UUX1fExu | 18:52 |
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| Stskeeps | BluesLee: i am thinking about using multiboot. | 18:54 |
| BluesLee | Stskeeps: thats right ... the users would benefit if the provided image would be for instance in tgz, using dd and repartitioning the sd card makes the latter unusable for other distros | 18:54 |
| Stskeeps | BluesLee: not possible sorry, but extracting bits from the image is trivial. | 18:55 |
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| berndhs | niadh, looking at it, pls wait... | 18:55 |
| niadh | berndhs: Thanks :) | 18:56 |
| BluesLee | Stskeeps: you mean: i may generate a virtual loopable image, dd the meego image into it and then extract it again | 18:56 |
| BluesLee | something like that i guess | 18:57 |
| BluesLee | okay, i found it http://www.orient-lodge.com/node/4202 | 18:59 |
| berndhs | niadh: where do i get the tar.gz ? | 18:59 |
| niadh | underbit.com/products/mad | 19:00 |
| timeless | hrm, hg qnew x -m foo -m 'bar baz' | 19:01 |
| timeless | what's the expected behavior? | 19:01 |
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| Stskeeps | i wonder if its a good or bad sign i start to see commit messages during the weekend | 20:11 |
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| lbt | anaZ: a .co.uk at last :) | 20:19 |
| lbt | welcome | 20:19 |
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| zmc | Quick question: Does Meego allow for running arbitrary X applications like Maemo did? | 20:42 |
| sofar | if you can compile it, you can run it | 20:47 |
| zmc | nice. Thanks. | 20:47 |
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| zmc | Looking to jump ship, android freaky gfx subsystems and binder ipc being a pita. Maemo looked really good, I'm kinda sad it was canned in favor of meego. | 20:48 |
| * CosmoHill blinks cos Windows is installing SQL Server CE | 20:56 | |
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| CosmoHill | wow that's cynical | 20:58 |
| CosmoHill | "We're installing your programs" | 20:59 |
| timeless | how is that cynical? | 20:59 |
| CosmoHill | maybe it's just my internal voice is saying it in a cynical way | 20:59 |
| CosmoHill | we're installing your programs and thdere is nothing you can do! mwhahaha | 21:00 |
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| Phazorx | CosmoHill: have you ever tried to install msoffice | 21:33 |
| Phazorx | like recent editions 2001+ | 21:33 |
| Phazorx | there i a great stage during an instalation process which i laughed pretty hard when i saw: "removing unneeded software installed during the installation of the MS Office" | 21:34 |
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| CosmoHill | hehe | 21:42 |
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| vgrade | zmc, welcome | 22:17 |
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| thopiekar | could be someone so kind and create images for me with emgd driver in it? I really would need it! But I can't create them on my own :/ Using Ubuntu Maverick here and also tried it in a vm with fedora 13 in it :( | 23:04 |
| thopiekar | the iso images hosted in a torrent doesn't work for me.. | 23:04 |
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| thopiekar | the hole thing fails when booting meego the first time.. it says: Inital menu has no LABEL entries! | 23:05 |
| thopiekar | vgrade: ^ | 23:05 |
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| thopiekar | s/hole/whole :P | 23:09 |
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| vgrade | thopiekar, what version on ioslinux are you running? | 23:12 |
| thopiekar | ioslinux?, vgrade | 23:13 |
| vgrade | sorry isolinux | 23:13 |
| vgrade | what netbook are you running? | 23:13 |
| thopiekar | AsusT91 | 23:14 |
| thopiekar | I know what isolinux is, but where can I check the isolinux version? | 23:14 |
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| vgrade | ASUS t91, Amyako reports that this is a supported netbook and he created the ISO's | 23:16 |
| madko | hi, How to add users in meego? | 23:16 |
| vgrade | do you get to the same point with your image as you do with the torrent images? | 23:17 |
| thopiekar | I downloaded the iso's and dd'd them on a stick | 23:19 |
| thopiekar | installed meego but it can't boot the first time.. | 23:19 |
| thopiekar | vgrade: ^ | 23:19 |
| madko | and how to reboot? | 23:20 |
| Phazorx | ctrl-alt-del | 23:20 |
| madko | oh | 23:20 |
| Phazorx | or #reboot | 23:20 |
| Phazorx | or shutdown -r... basicaly any way you normally reboot any linux | 23:21 |
| madko | on linux when i click the power button I have the choice to shutdown, or reboot | 23:21 |
| madko | but the ctrl+alt+del is fine | 23:22 |
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| Phazorx | and if you mouse dies i guess your linux will be running forever then... | 23:22 |
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| madko | power button on my pc | 23:23 |
| madko | any idea on how to deal with multi users in meego? should I need to install gdm? | 23:23 |
| Phazorx | i doubt they got rid of useradd/adduser scripts | 23:24 |
| Phazorx | so these should work fine | 23:24 |
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| madko | and any applet to switch users? | 23:25 |
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| madko | there is a bug in anaconda when configuring the bootloader | 23:27 |
| madko | do you known why it's extlinux and not grub? | 23:30 |
| Phazorx | they like it more | 23:30 |
| madko | but anaconda doesnt like it | 23:31 |
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| lbt | X-Fade: ping | 23:39 |
| madko | yum can't find google-chrome package on any mirror, is that normal? | 23:40 |
| ali1234 | madko: probably licensing issues | 23:41 |
| lbt | X-Fade: do you have details of the security call tomorrow? | 23:41 |
| thiago_home | madko: it's normal | 23:41 |
| thiago_home | madko: install chromium | 23:41 |
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| madko | ok, thank you thiago_home I'll try that | 23:43 |
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| madko | that won't break anything if I remove the google-chrome package? | 23:45 |
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