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Stskeepswtf :P08:43
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TermanaN900if anyone want to kill spammers grab #pitchforks08:49
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h4xordoodheyo :)12:21
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slaineStskeeps: where are the meego kiskstart files stored ?12:53
Stskeepsslaine: gitorious generally or published alongside images12:54
slaineFrom the wiki12:54
slaineTo obtain the official Meego .ks files, go here: TO-DO-LINK12:54
Stskeepsi guess you're reading image_creation, :P12:55
Stskeepssec12:55
Stskeepshttp://meego.gitorious.org/meego-os-base/image-configurations/trees/master12:55
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slainehttp://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.0/netbook/images/meego-netbook-chromium-ia32/meego-netbook-chromium-ia32-1.0-20100524.1.ks12:57
slaineI was looking in the 1.0.1 path12:57
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slaineOh the humiliation of it all16:26
slainewe're being paraded around in front of some camera crew making a documentary or something16:26
slaine"Look at the monkeys. See how they code"16:26
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Stskeepsslonopotamus: while there's porn on the screens and weed being smoked?16:36
Macerugh16:38
Maceri need to find a scanner that can scan pdfs on its own16:38
Macerwithout a pc16:38
Macerdoes anything like that even exist?16:38
thiagoyep16:38
thiagowe have one of those in the office16:38
thiagoit's a fax, printer and a scanner16:39
thiagoit sends you the scans by email, in .pdf16:39
Macerit scans to a microsd or something as a pdf?16:39
Macerwithout needing a pc?16:39
thiagoyes, without a PC16:39
Macerwhat is it called?16:39
* thiago checks the CUPS config16:39
Maceri dont really need the fax and copy part16:39
Macerjust the scanning part ;) but copying and scanning is about the same thing16:40
thiagoours is a Sharp AR-M451N16:40
Macerawesome...thanks16:40
Macerlet me take a look16:40
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slonopotamusStskeeps: wut?16:44
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Macerhm16:44
slaineStskeeps: they're french, so our french sales manager is saying "Pretend you're working". "We ARE working"16:45
Macerhttp://www.office.xerox.com/multifunction-printer/multifunction-under-30ppm/phaser-3100mfp/enus.html16:45
Macerthat looks like it might do it. says scans directly to usb drive with no pc required16:45
Macerbut doesnt say which format16:45
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Maceroh. guess that one is discontinued but they have a newer model for 400 ... cheap ;)16:50
Macergreat16:50
Macermicrob crashed16:50
Maceragain16:50
Macerlord please hurry up with meego :)16:51
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Macerfor n900.. i will even get an intel based phone16:51
Macerif need be heh16:51
Macermaemo5 seems more and more like crap16:51
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slonopotamusMacer: stop whining16:53
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Macergreat16:54
Macernow the link i had i lost CRAP16:54
Macerslonopotamus: lol. youre right16:54
Macerbest just to wait on a meego phone16:54
Macerand suck it up16:55
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GAN900Macer, restart.16:56
GAN900Reduce swappiness16:56
Macerdoubt that is the problem. seems to die when pop ups are supposed to happen16:57
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Macersuch as... entering in a web address and it pops your history up16:57
Maceror when the phone is closed and you ry to use the vkb16:58
Maceri will just take deep breaths until a good meego phone comes out16:59
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MacerWorkCentre  3210/322017:01
Macerfound it17:01
GAN900Macer, have you tried restarting, though?17:02
GAN900I've been pretty crash-free in MicroB17:02
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Maceryes17:04
Maceriit is random17:04
Maceri might just start using opera mobile17:04
Macerbut i havent really used it much17:04
Macerbut if it works i will see about removing microb17:04
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GAN900Any plugins?17:13
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iberlynxhello evryone17:55
Stskeepswello17:55
iberlynxI need to request a package be included in meego, how should I go about doing it?17:56
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slaineiberlynx: log a bug as an enhancement request17:57
iberlynxhum17:57
iberlynxthanks slaine,  what is the standard waiting period from request to being able to get it from the repos?17:58
iberlynxyou're guestimate is perfectly fine17:58
slainethere's none17:58
Stskeepsremember signed-off-by17:59
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DawnFosteriberlynx: Here are some guidelines if you haven't already read them http://wiki.meego.com/Packaging/Guidelines18:12
DawnFosterhelps make sure that you have everything we're looking for when you submit18:12
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iberlynxDawnFoster: thanks, but I thought what I had to do was point the package-maintainers in the direction of the source. Are you saying that I should make an srpm package myself and submit it has an attachment to the bug?18:18
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DawnFosteriberlynx: I'd file the bug, point them to the source and get confirmation that it aligns with the overall direction of the project.18:20
DawnFostermy guess is that you'll need to package it up.18:21
DawnFosterbut you should get confirmation first18:21
iberlynxok18:21
iberlynxthanks18:21
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sabdflhi folks18:53
sabdflafter flashing my N900 with a recent meego image, i have a login18:53
sabdflroot / meego works18:53
sabdflhow does one bring up the gui?18:53
Robot101sabdfl: which image? I don't think there are any N900 images on meego.com which have the handset UX18:54
sabdflRobot101: i used http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/handset/images/meego-handset-armv7l-n900/18:55
Stskeepsyeah, that's the 'open image' which doesn't work cos there's no SGX libraries18:55
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sabdflah :)18:55
Stskeepsalso, it doesn't boot anywhere in general cos of the dbus / toolchain problem18:55
sabdfldarn, i thought i was so close!18:55
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Stskeepsclose enough18:56
Stskeepstrack http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3936 for waiting for a fix18:56
sabdflis there an apt-get update equiv that would get me there?18:56
Stskeepsno sorry18:56
sabdflor just reflash in due course?18:56
sabdflok18:56
sabdflshould i wait for another drop of the nokia-proprietary bits?18:56
sabdflor will the open image work soon enough18:56
Stskeepswell, those aren't the problem atm :P18:56
Stskeepsbut track that bug, that's what we are waiting on18:57
sabdflok. thanks!18:57
MacerStskeeps: i tried to build an img in debian and it didnt work19:00
StskeepsMacer: we tell people to build in fedora for good reason19:01
Macerah ok.19:01
Maceris meego not debian based?19:02
Stskeepsno19:02
Macerthe instructions i read had mic2 instructions for debian so i figured i would use what i had on hand19:02
Macerfedora based? or is it simply its own thing?19:03
Stskeepsown thing, but mic2 works on fedora 1219:03
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Stskeeps:P19:03
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Macerok19:03
Stskeepsevening lbt, how's the weather up north?19:03
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Maceri will make a fedora vbox when i get the chance today19:03
lbthey Stskeeps.... nice and sunny here19:03
Macerand use that as a "dev" box19:03
Macer;)19:03
* lbt thinks about going for a sauna to cool down19:04
Macerlet me start a fedora 12 download19:04
lbtStskeeps: so I didn't realise madhu was on your team...19:04
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Stskeepslbt: uhm, me neither - i thought meego QA19:05
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lbtwell, meego-arm ...19:06
lbthe was showing me meego on the n900 ... first time I've seen it there19:06
Stskeepslbt: well, he does QA for our images so19:06
lbtyeah...19:06
Stskeeps(which should logically be an activity outside the team as to not taint the process)19:07
Stskeeps:P19:07
MacerStskeeps: it has to be 12?19:07
Macerit cant be fedora 13?19:07
StskeepsMacer: one of those, but 12 is what i know works19:07
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lbtpah... developers should be responsible for QA19:07
Macerhm. i will see if i can find 12 then19:07
Maceri disagree19:08
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Macerdevelopers are too busy coding ;)19:08
Stskeepsdevelopers have tendancies to take the short path19:08
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Macerplus. no offense to Stskeeps .. but his meego/maemo explaination sounded like someone going in 10 directions at once19:08
lbtresponsible for.... not "allowed to sign-off on".... *huge* difference19:09
Macer;)19:09
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Macermight be his translation into english but it was hard to follow19:09
lbtthey should not be paid until the QA guy says "yes"19:09
Macerhaha19:10
lbtno banannas!19:10
Macerthat's rough19:10
tripzerocode monkey no banana?19:10
tripzero:(19:10
* lbt loses his banana for tonight for spelling banana wrong :(19:10
MacerStskeeps: if you want i can try helping you out with the writing part for the wiki etc19:10
Macerit will help me contribute ;)19:11
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Stskeeps:nod:19:20
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Macerok. i am downloading fedora 12 and 13 now19:22
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Maceri will try 13 and 12 out19:22
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Macermaybe i can work on making a distributable vdisk to make it easier for people19:23
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ilembitovHi, all. I have just installed Meego 1.0 on my ultraportable. How do I define the layout switching? Should I do that through HAL files, or /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ ?19:25
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Maceralrighty then.19:27
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StskeepsDawnFoster: everything's settled about conference location btw? (looking into plane tickets and hotel booking early on)20:14
DawnFosterStskeeps: we're going to have a hotel room block with hotel discounts, so you might want to wait a few days.20:15
DawnFosterWe should have the details August 120:15
StskeepsDawnFoster: alright20:15
Stskeepsthanks for the info :)20:16
* thiago will have to start getting his second-half travels booked soon20:16
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Macerhm20:42
Macerwhat larger tablets does meego support?20:43
Maceror is the aava the only official supported device?20:43
Stskeepsaava's hardly a larger tablet :P20:43
Macerwith the exception of x86 netbooks?20:43
Macerheh20:43
Maceraava is just an atom phone isnt it?20:43
Stskeepsmm, wouldn't say just20:44
Macerwell... :)20:45
Maceris there anything released or on its way that is similar to an ipad in size?20:45
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Stskeepssome of the x86 tablets?20:46
Macermeego uses btrfs?20:46
tripzeroyes20:46
MacerStskeeps: can you give me an example of one?20:46
Stskeepsdunno20:46
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Macerlol20:47
tripzeroMacer, lennovo has a pinetrail atom hybrid netbook/tablet20:47
tripzeroi think meego can run on it20:47
Macerhm20:47
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thiagoaava is mobile phone20:50
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thiagoI have a lenovo ideapad S10-3t20:50
thiagothe touchscreen is supported since 2.6.3420:50
Macerthiago: can you separate it from the kb?20:50
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Macerthiago: wow20:53
Macerthat thing is awesome ;)20:53
tripzeroiirc, you can't separate it from the kb20:54
tripzerobut the screen swivels20:54
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Maceryeah20:56
Macerit is nice but the kb is too big20:57
Macerthe touchbook was a good idea that wound up being a total piece of crap20:57
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Macerhttp://www.gadgetfolder.com/dreambook-epad-l11-pine-trail-tablet-with-next-gen-nvidia-ion-3g-module.html20:59
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Macerthat thing looks perfect for meego :)21:02
Stskeepswell, except for the ion thing21:02
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tripzeroion rocks21:03
tripzeroexcept for the driver21:03
tripzero:P21:03
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tripzeroit's got the pinetrail, so in theory, you may be able to use either the intel or nvidia gfx21:05
tripzeroif they enable that...21:05
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ilembitovI have installed Meego on my Thinkpad X200s. After an update I lost the sound - absolutely. Can anybody help me?21:11
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tripzeroilembitov, is it muted by chance?21:14
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ilembitovtripzero: I wish it were. Alsamixer also shows that I only have one channel for output (master) and one - for input (capture). Nothing else. Looks like it dropped the necessary module, but I don't know what to do21:16
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tripzeroilembitov, check pavucontrol21:17
tripzero(it may not be installed by default)21:17
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ilembitovtripzero: doesn't help. Is that okay that my lsmod output doesn't show any sound card-related entries?21:21
tripzerohmm21:21
tripzerothat would be a problem21:21
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tripzeroilembitov, i guess you could find out what module your soundcard needs and try to manually modprobe it21:22
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tripzeromaybe it needs to be rebuilt against the newer/updated kernel21:23
tripzeroi had to rebuild my wifi module21:23
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tripzeroilembitov, also search bugs.meego.com and see if anyone has had the same issue21:23
tripzeroand possibly found a workaround21:23
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ilembitovtripzero: You mean, I have to wait for a further update? I don't want to rebuild my kernel21:23
tripzeronot rebuild the entire kernel, just the module21:23
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ilembitovtripzero: how do I do that?21:24
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tripzerobut see if you can manually insmod/modprobe the one that's already on the ssytem21:24
tripzeroyou'll have to do some googleing about your hardware to find which module it needs21:24
tripzeroalso check dmesg... i suppose an error might pop up there as well21:24
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tripzerofinally, if you can't find what's wrong or an existing bug, create a new bug21:25
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ilembitovtripzero: are the RPMs in Meego sync with Fedora?21:26
tripzerono21:26
tripzerothey are not in sync21:26
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GordonShey all - I've got some display weirdness with the 1.0.80.11.20100720.2 handset build21:50
GordonSif I try and run anything21:50
GordonSif I try and run anything that isn't a native Meego app, I just get a white screen21:50
Stskeepswhat arch?21:51
GordonSit's on x8621:51
Stskeepsreport it as a bug but i think it's a duplicate21:51
Stskeeps(happens on x86 and arm)21:52
GordonSnever mind, I have to go21:52
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vljhi22:06
vljis it true that someone did manage to get a working meego with emgd on a joggler ?22:06
Stskeepsthere's a video showing it, at least22:08
vljyep but it may be a fake :/22:08
lbtit's v.v. cool22:08
Stskeepsvlj: not fake22:08
Stskeeps:P22:08
vgradenot a fake22:08
vljbut reproducible ?22:08
lbtheh22:08
vljI mean emgd drivers seem not to be released do they ?22:09
lbtvlj: have you got a joggler22:09
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vljno22:09
vljI have a gma 500 powered netbook ^^22:09
lbtah...22:09
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Stskeepsvlj: they seem to be part of the ivi builds for 1.0, but needs a fair deal of handiwork to get things working22:09
vljok22:10
Stskeepsthe video shows the url if you click the description22:10
lbtbtw vgrade... have you tried neverputt and the other never?? games?22:10
vljand22:10
lbtplayability is crap but the glx is sweeeeeet22:10
vgradevlj, what happens when you run a stock meego image22:10
vljany chance to get meego to work with nvidia gfx ?22:10
Stskeepsvlj: what kind of netbook, out of curiousity?22:10
vljblack screen22:10
vljt91mt22:10
Stskeepsvlj: it is probably possible to generate your own image. noone has made a .ks for this purpose yet i believe :P22:11
vljok22:11
Stskeepswhat is the nvidia situation anyway? closed kernel driver?22:12
vljyup22:12
vljit did not run on moblin22:12
vljand not on meego it seems22:12
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Stskeepsyeah, cos meego can't legally redistribute22:12
Stskeeps:P22:12
vgradelbt, not enough hours in the day for games22:12
lbtvgrade: just to see it... give it a go22:13
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lbtI think the initial effort for non-meego glx will be radeon BTW22:13
vljbecause of open source drivers availability ?22:13
ilembitovHi, again. Turns out, I was totally dumb. Nothing wrong with my audio, it's just that I didn't realise that a distro that has Adobe by default doesn't have any codecs. Is there any way to get those without compiling them from scratch?22:13
lbtvlj: yes22:14
vgradevlj, can you build a netbook image from a stock .ks22:14
vlji did not try yet22:14
lbtno point beating ourselves up to run nvidia closed ones until we go down an open route first22:14
Stskeepsvlj: does a nvidia 2.6.33 module exist?22:14
vljerr yes22:14
Stskeepsok22:15
vljnvidia installator works with ubuntu (kernel 2.6.33)22:15
vljwith oss 11.3 (kernel 2.6.34)22:15
thiagoother people just use dkms22:15
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vljdkms ?22:15
thiagoyes, the solution that was created by dell for binary drivers22:16
vljok22:16
* lbt makes a note to grab InformatiQ's meego-mirror scripts22:16
* thiago uses dkms for the nvidia driver for nvidia22:16
ScottishDuckI use nouveau22:16
ScottishDuckyou are all foss failures ._.22:16
* lbt uses radeon .... that's foss22:17
vljthiago: and you ran it on meego ?22:17
vljbtw is meego built with gcc or icc ?22:18
vljas it is intel sponsored22:19
ScottishDuckgcc22:19
lbtgcc22:19
vljok22:19
ScottishDuckicc has a license from hell22:19
vljthat is ?22:19
ScottishDuckan intel one22:19
* lbt things intel should build the atom ssse3 meego using icc22:19
ScottishDuckit's not foss22:19
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lbtand a generic x86 using gcc22:20
ScottishDuckyou can't redistribute icc created binaries I think lbt22:20
ScottishDuckor something like that22:20
lbtScottishDuck: rofl22:20
lbtthat's as insane as selling video cameraa using a codec that prohibits redistribution.... ;)22:21
ScottishDuckprobably scared of amd stealing their code22:21
vljif you cant redistribute, what can you do with icc ?22:21
Stskeepslbt: is there a migration plan re community obs once there's new hw, or is it 'erase all projects'?22:21
lbterase22:22
* lbt is lazy22:22
Stskeepsk22:22
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lbtalthough it's likely they'll run concurrently22:22
lbtand it should be easy to script a transfer22:22
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ScottishDuckvlj: build a system for personal use22:23
lbtbut I think it's safer for me to deny responsibility :)22:23
vljso it's not targeted at developper ?22:23
ScottishDuckGentoo is the only os where you can really use icc effectively22:23
ScottishDuckI believe icc is used internally, they just let people download it for research or personal compiling22:24
RobotGuyAre there any MeeGo handset type development devices available?22:25
StskeepsRobotGuy: the n900?22:25
vljRobotGuy: the ava thing ?22:25
vljthat costs ... a lot22:25
ScottishDuckYou're not supposed to buy it22:26
ScottishDuckit's basically handed out to devs22:26
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aukeAava (double A)22:29
vljhe said "development device" ;)22:30
vgradevlj, can you create a netbook image from a .ks file?22:30
vljerr22:30
vljmaybe22:30
lbtvlj: sure you can22:31
vljis there some repo for opensuse 11.3 to install mic ?22:31
lbtfollow the wiki instructions...22:31
lbtvlj: no... 11.2 only afaik for now22:31
vljwell it should works22:31
lbtunless anyone says different22:31
vlj"should"22:31
vgradevlj, can you build a netbook image from a .ks file22:31
lbtmic is prissy22:31
vljvgrade: i'm trying22:31
vgradesorry, scrolling problem.22:32
vljok22:32
vgradevlj, have you seen jogglerwiki22:32
vljyup22:33
vljbut it seems so unreal that someone had manage to get a gma 500 powered device to run with meego22:33
vljwithout the world knowing it22:34
vljthe world = guys that owns a gma 500 and would like to use linux on it22:34
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vgradeok, do you want to try and get it on your netbook22:34
vljyup22:34
Stskeepsvlj: people complain a lot22:34
Stskeeps:P22:34
Stskeepsi'm personally happy cos now i have a touchscreen device i can use handset UX on.22:35
vgradewhat we need you to do is setup a build environment which allows you to build a netbook image22:35
lbtvlj: what is your base distro?22:36
vljopensuse 11.322:36
vlji'm downloading mic2 for oS11.222:36
lbtOK22:36
vljwhich .ks should I use ?22:37
vljI need emgd drivers22:37
vgradeonce you can generate an image which boots to black hopefully I will have a kernel you can use22:37
vljok22:37
vgradeif you can get the toolset right first we can then give you a .ks which will point at the EMGD drivers22:38
vgradeand kernel22:38
vgradedrivers are here, http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/1.0/1.0.0.5.20100707.2/ivi/repos/ia32/packages/i586/22:39
vljI have mic222:40
lbtvgrade: can you make sure you update the meego wiki with notes/tweaks that you find22:40
lbt(and vlj)22:40
vljok22:40
lbtthanks... it helps to justify the time we spend writing some of this stuff22:40
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vgradelbt, did you have any notes/tweaks?22:41
lbtMirv: you paying attention ;)22:41
lbtnah... I've not run mic2 yet ;)22:41
vljwhere can I found the default.ks kickstart files ?22:42
lbtI never had a device to test images on until saturday \o/22:42
vljTo obtain the official Meego .ks files, go here: TO-DO-LINK22:42
vljwhat a usefull advice ;)22:42
vljhttp://wiki.meego.com/Image_Creation22:42
vgradehang on, kids interrupt22:42
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aukesubmit a bugreport :)22:42
dailylinuxhi22:42
lbtthere's a gitorious project but I think anaZ needs to update it22:43
dailylinuxcan someone pls tell me how to manage network in meego without using the system tray?22:43
lbtand he's not onlione22:43
dailylinuxi know it's conman & connmand22:44
lbthttp://wiki.meego.com/Image_Creation#Official_Meego_.ks_files22:44
dailylinuxevery time i unplug my usb-wifi, i can't get it to work22:44
lbt<cough> 31 march...22:44
dailylinuxhave to reboot to get the usb-wifi to work after an unplug22:45
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lbtdailylinux: same... bug report?22:45
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dailylinuxlbt: samme issue there as well?22:46
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lbtno... as in "please file one" :)22:46
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dailylinuxlbt: i mean you have the experienced the problem with usb-wifi?22:47
lbtplus then you can ask on here and say "and I filed a bug report" in a self-righteous tone ;)22:47
lbtdailylinux: no22:47
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dailylinuxah22:47
dailylinuxi see22:47
lbtnight Stskeeps o/22:47
CosmoHillbye Stskeeps22:47
CosmoHillhello lbt et dailylinux22:47
dailylinuxhi22:47
vgradevlj, still there22:48
vgradejust booting my VM , should have a link to the .ks22:48
vgradesoon22:48
lbtvgrade: see my url ^^^^     not that one?22:49
vljok22:49
lbtDawnFoster: pingy .... who broke the meego wiki css?   search box is at the bottom of the page22:50
RobotGuyI want to see more tablet devices released. The iPad is a good idea, but not quite enough - no USB.22:50
vljRobotGuy: T101MT ? ^^22:50
RobotGuyvlj: ??22:51
vljor the hp tm/tx ones22:51
DawnFosterlbt: http://wiki.meego.com ?22:51
DawnFosterlooks OK on my screen22:51
vljRobotGuy: the T101MT is a convertible netbook22:51
DawnFosterwhat are you using browser / platform?22:51
vljit acts as a tablet, but with a keyboard22:52
lbtfirefox/debian22:52
RobotGuyThe wiki looks fine here also.22:52
RobotGuyvlj: Ah, OK. :)22:52
lbtthe input box on the LHS does a css float to the bottom of the page22:52
DawnFosterlooks fine on firefox & safari on the mac22:52
lbtOK... maybe it's my machine... :)22:53
vljRobotGuy: "true" tablets will come in Q4 201022:53
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DawnFosteranyone else seeing issues with the wiki css?22:53
vgradelbt,vlj thanks lbt, slight delay there as I cranked up the VM22:54
vgradevlj, ping me when you have created an image which gets you to the black screen22:54
vljok22:55
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RobotGuyI want a true tablet.22:55
RobotGuyA tablet would be perfect for carrying with me when I go out.22:56
ScottishDuckiPad22:56
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ScottishDuck:322:56
lbtDawnFoster: http://www.flickr.com/photos/96141280@N00/4831345463/#/photos/96141280@N00/4831345463/lightbox/22:56
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ecarrascohello all, I'm trying to boot meego on a sylvania netbook with a ultra mobile processor ... but I'm having trouble making the usb boot, any idea?22:57
DawnFosterweird - can you file a bug for it?22:57
RobotGuyAre all MeeGo devices based on Intel Atom hardware?22:58
lbtyup.... is meego bugzilla sso ?22:58
DawnFosterlbt: yep22:58
DawnFosterthere is a section for wiki bugs under web infrastructure, I think22:59
RobotGuyThe N900 may actually be a really good device for me.22:59
Mirvlbt: I read something about poulsbo in the surrounding comments and immediately lost interest :)22:59
lbtnm... this laptop keyb is a bit flakey22:59
Mirvbut I guess the question was about ks files instead22:59
lbtMirv: don't.... your Nokia netbook may finally run meego ;)23:00
RobotGuyThey have apparently run the same Tech Guy episode twice now.23:00
RobotGuyOops, wrong chat, sorry23:01
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Mirvlbt: I don't have nokia netbook....23:03
lbtis that ahma?23:03
Mirvyep. I've my Dell Latitude 2110 precisely (among else) to avoid poulsbo :)23:04
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MyrttiLatitude :-(23:04
MyrttiI was just today wondering does Dell have *any* laptops that don't overheat23:05
lbtyeah... I normally make sure on the HW side... apart from the 3 Jogglers ..... D'OH23:05
Myrttilbt: sell me one23:05
MirvMyrtti: well... my netbook Latitude surely doesn't...23:05
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MirvAtom N470, 16GB SDD \o/23:05
vljvgrade: I have the following error23:05
vljhttp://pastebin.com/DFDTEBV123:05
Mirvssd, that is23:05
Mirvand my D630 doesn't much overheat either, it seems to be more like variable of how much dust there is inside. D600 is madly hot.23:06
MyrttiMirv: I bet I could make it overheat with Skype23:06
lbtMyrtti: if you like.... I shipped 2 to the US, 5 to germany, 1 to poland....23:06
MirvMyrtti: that's why you shouldn't run the proprietary crap   *hides*23:06
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MyrttiMirv: as soon as you find a Voip/sip client that runs on Mac with video, I'm ready to swap23:07
Myrtti'coz we've tried several and all have trouble23:08
vljwell I have to go for tonight :/23:08
vljI should be there tomorro vgrade23:08
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MirvMyrtti: I guess you mean Mac-the-software, with which you may advise to read the comment above as well23:08
lbtbut but but.... it's white!!!23:09
vgradevlj,  when I had mic problems stskeeps suggested getting the latest form git, http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-developer-tools/image-creator/trees/master23:09
MyrttiMirv: with Linux it lags...23:09
Myrttiaw crap, I cocked my nail polish23:10
lbtvgrade.... nag Mirv23:10
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vgradelbt, ?23:11
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Mirvindeed mic2 from git is probably better than the random packages that have been wandering around23:11
lbtfor things in the docs...23:11
lbtMyrtti: you sound like my wife.... "oi. you. make coffee... my nails are drying"23:11
Myrttilbt: I can't make such requests, the distance to our kitchen is too long23:12
lbtdoesn't bother her...23:12
Myrttilbt: mine is about 1000miles...23:13
lbt<grin>23:13
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Cosmo[PB]I like that my router has "reboot" under "diagnostics"23:15
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Myrtti11 days, 19 hours, 19 minutes23:15
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lbtMyrtti:  to coffee?23:15
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Myrttilbt: landing to Stansted23:16
lbtStansted?23:16
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lbtI thought you were based over here in Hel23:16
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Myrttilbt: nope, Tampere23:17
Myrttilbt: and Warboys, Cambs23:17
lbtheh... I used to live up near Ipswich23:17
lbtand commute from cambs23:17
Myrttifirst trip there was a bit of a chock for a Finn used to trees and hills23:18
Myrttishock, even23:18
lbtit's...................................................flat.....................................................23:18
Myrttistupid bloody chromium *kick*23:19
Myrttioh well. Skype or Chromium, pick one.23:19
luisthello... i added my own application list to garage... and i was working perfectly, but not im getting this error: http://pastie.org/1060547 and at this moment the application stops resolving the packages. the applications that are already resolved cant be installed because when i click install it seems to add to the queue, since other ones are stuck at "Resolving..."  can anyone help?23:20
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dailylinuxanyone know how to use connmand to control network?23:21
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CosmoHill"ifup" "ifdown" those things?23:24
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CosmoHillwhat's happening in theworldofbrad?23:36
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dailylinuxCosmoHill: no, i meant how connman handles devices23:38
thiagoDawnFoster: hi, do you know who's organising the participants from Intel to LinuxCon Brazil?23:39
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dailylinuxCosmoHill: theworldofbrad ?23:41
CosmoHillthe guy who just joined23:41
CosmoHillI was asking "how are you" in what I had hoped was an amusing way23:41
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dailylinuxCosmoHill: i see23:43
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dailylinuxCosmoHill: are you into Meego's inside?23:44
CosmoHillno23:45
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dailylinux:)23:45
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DawnFosterThiago: not sure - maybe Amy.23:50
DawnFosterI can try to find out.23:50
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thiagoDawnFoster: I know Amy is involved in the sponsoring23:52
thiagoand Dirk23:52
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CosmoHillhey DawnFoster and thiago23:52
DawnFosterAmy also usually coordinates who is attending the events.23:52
DawnFosterhey CosmoHill23:52
CosmoHillwhy does Amy sound familar...23:53
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DawnFosterthiago - I'm going on vacation as of a few hours from now - feel free to reach out to Amy to ask her23:53
thiagoI'll ask her23:53
thiagothanks Dawn23:53
thiagoand have a nice vacation23:53
DawnFostercosmohill: she's heading up some of the meego conference activities23:53
DawnFosterthanks23:53
CosmoHillDawnFoster: enjoy your holiday :)23:53
DawnFosterjust going back to Ohio to visit family.23:54
thiagoCosmoHill: amy organised the MeeGo conf23:54
thiagowell, the location at least23:55
* CosmoHill imagines Amy with darks and a map of the world23:56
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thiagolet's put it this way: if you see Intel sponsoring a FOSS event, you can bet Amy had a hand in it :-)23:57
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CosmoHillhehe23:58

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