IRC log of #meego for Sunday, 2010-07-25

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Maceris there a working/not working wiki for meego on n900?00:30
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Macerwhere are meego n900 images?00:38
Macerall i see is an n900 developer kickstart download00:38
ScottishDuckn900 has closed bits, so you have to build your own00:39
ScottishDuckright now you need to build a raw image with the kickstart and put it on a microSD00:39
Macerah ok00:40
Maceris there a wiki that explains how to do that?00:40
ScottishDuckyeah00:40
ScottishDuckI'll just find the link00:40
Macerok :)00:40
Macerlet me go ahead and rip the battery cover off to get this00:41
ScottishDuckhttp://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Creating_ARM_image_using_MeeGo_Image_Creator00:41
ScottishDuck(RAW Image)00:41
ScottishDuckand then http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/MMC00:41
Macerthanks00:44
Macerwhat isn't working right now?00:44
Macerthe modem?00:44
ScottishDuckthe cell modem (making phone calls/ sms)00:44
ScottishDuckI'm not sure of what else00:44
Maceryeah but that modem is a big one ;)00:45
ScottishDuckbut you should only really install to see what the OS is like, it's not ready for day-to-day use, even in an alpha/beta capacity00:45
Macerit has to be fedora?00:45
ScottishDuckThere are MIC instructions for ubuntu as well00:45
ScottishDuckand a source install (i think)00:45
Maceri don't have an ubuntu box. i have a debian box :) and an opensolaris one00:46
Maceri suppose i can make an ubuntu vbox :/00:46
Macerwhat about osx instructions? :) i have a macbook00:46
Macerlet me see on the wiki00:47
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ScottishDuckwait00:47
ScottishDuckthere is a debian installer too00:47
ScottishDuckhttp://wiki.meego.com/Image_Creation#From_Binary_Packages00:48
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Macerawesome :)00:49
Macerthanks. i'll do it all on the C700:49
Macermy debian box is a 1GHz C7 ;)00:49
ScottishDuckpfft00:51
ScottishDuckGentoo is the only OS00:51
ScottishDuck:)00:51
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Maceryou should be shot for that one :)00:57
RobotGuyI am installing the MeeGo SDK now.00:57
Maceractually. i used gentoo for quite a while but always wound up destroying it00:57
MacerScottishDuck: but thanks a ton. i see the instructions for debian00:58
Maceri will work on this in a bit.. but i have to check on my son watching cartoons now :)00:58
Maceri just hope this C7 can handle it ;)00:59
Maceri downloaded all the files for the kickstart tho. so i guess that's a start00:59
ScottishDuckwhich kickstart did you use01:00
ScottishDuckthe one from meego-codedrop?01:00
Macernothing yet01:00
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Maceri just went to the meego.com download tab and picked n90001:01
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ScottishDuckoh nonono01:01
Macerentered my ser num and downloaded all the files :)01:01
Maceri thought i would need those for the closed off stuff01:01
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Macerwell. i will just follow the wiki instructions for making the img i suppose01:02
Maceri am going to go out on a stretch here and assume that by adding the repos and building and updating the repos etc01:02
Maceri should be able to easily use get or apt to update all the things required and rebuild newer builds ?01:03
RobotGuyAll I am getting is "ERROR: '/xdev/oe/openembedded/recipes/base-files/base-files_3.0.14.bb' failed" and I can't see where it failed.01:03
Macergit01:03
Macerhonestly. i am asking too much. let me go ahead and just try to get this going ;)01:03
RobotGuyOops, wrong chat, sorry01:04
ScottishDuckMacer: Go here http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/meego-codedrop.php and download meego-handset-...ks01:05
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ScottishDuckthen open it with a text editor and find the nokia-proprietary repo01:06
ScottishDuckdownload http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/1.0.80.11.20100720.1/handset/images/meego-handset-armv7l-n900/meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.0.80.11.20100720.1.ks01:06
ScottishDuckand add the nokia-proprietary repo to it01:06
MacerE: Version '3.85' for 'syslinux' was not found01:06
ScottishDuckthen use it with MIC to create an image01:06
ScottishDuckMacer: you need to add the repo01:07
MacerScottishDuck: i already downloaded that ;)01:07
MacerScottishDuck: i did01:07
Macerand added the repo key01:07
Maceri followed it step by step but let me double check01:07
ScottishDuckah01:08
ScottishDuckwait01:08
ScottishDuckdon't specify 3.8501:08
Maceryeah. the repos are updated01:08
ScottishDuckthere is a newer one in the repo01:08
Macer:) someone needs to edit the wiki heh01:08
Maceralright01:08
Macer  dosfstools mtools syslinux syslinux-common01:09
Macerhm. well. let's see if i break my box :)01:09
Maceruhm01:10
MacerGet:4 http://mirror.cs.wisc.edu lenny/main syslinux 2:3.71+dfsg-5 [62.5kB]01:10
Macerit's grabbing it from my debian repo and not the meego repo01:10
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Macerah well. let me just go ahead and instlal mic2 and let apt handle the deps and see what happens :)01:13
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vgradeThose over there are not giants but windmills - http://jogglerwiki.info/index.php?title=MeeGo01:22
MacerError: Not any repo is available01:24
Macermic-image-creator --run-mode=0 --cache=mycachedir --format=raw --arch=armv7l --save-kernel --config= meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.0.80.11.20100720.1.ks.ks01:24
Maceroh01:25
ScottishDuck?01:26
ScottishDuckoh?01:26
Macerok01:27
Macerdo i have the syntax wrong there minust he cache dir?01:27
Maceri keep getting some poor english error msg :)01:27
MacerError: Not any repo is available01:28
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ScottishDuckI know01:28
ScottishDuck>meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.0.80.11.20100720.1.ks.ks01:28
ScottishDuck>.ks.ks01:29
ScottishDuckremove one .ks01:29
ScottishDuckprobably makes no difference, on second thought01:29
Maceryeah. the files are saving as ks.ks01:29
Macerbut i'll try01:29
ScottishDuckalso there is a space between config= and the .ks01:30
Maceryeah01:31
Macerthat was it but now i get...01:31
MacerUnexpected arguments to repo command: ['\xe2\x80\x94gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-meego']01:31
Macerthe nokia ks works01:32
Macerthe one you directed me doesn't seem to  :(01:33
MacerAttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'close'01:33
Macerweeeeee!!01:33
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Macerok. this is turning out to be too much of a pain :)01:35
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Maceri will wait until a distributable raw img comes out01:36
ScottishDuckSounds like a plan01:36
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ScottishDuckmy cat was afraid of my hamster01:37
ScottishDuckthe hamster bit him on the nose01:37
CosmoHillwe don't have a cat01:37
Macerlet me try re-installing python01:37
Macerwho knows01:37
Macermaybe it was some weird freak python error01:37
ScottishDuckwhat version of python01:37
Macer2.501:39
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ScottishDuckwhy not 2.6?01:39
Macerbecause 2.5 is what is in the debian repos01:40
ScottishDuckI knew debian was legacy... but that's just plain old01:41
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Macerhttp://pastebin.org/41610301:42
Macerthat is the error i am getting with the nokia one01:42
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JJNovaSo I have meego booting from a USB drive, and I don't know if it has hung up, or if the screen that says, "SYSLINUX 3.84 2009-12-18 EBIOS" is supposed to stay up for a really long time.01:43
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JJNovaIs there background stuff going on?01:43
Macerhttp://pastebin.org/41610401:43
Macerand that is with the one you told me to try ;)01:44
ScottishDuckMacer: It would seem it's calling functions that are in python 2.601:44
ScottishDuckso you need python 2.601:44
ScottishDuckwhat version of debian are you using?01:45
Macer5.001:45
Macerthe problem with yours though does not seem to be python.. which i am sure it will after i get past the problem of the gpg key stuff01:46
Macerbut line 17 and 18 have ...01:46
Macer—gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-meego01:46
Maceri suppose i have to check my .gnupg dir and see if something was put there for me to use for this01:49
Macerthen change the ks01:49
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Macerpossibly the instructions for debian are just not straightforward enough minus the instructions on installing mic2 :) ah well. time-out for now. maybe i will figure it out later on... or maybe i will just work on making a fedora or ubuntu vbox to do all this in01:50
MacerScottishDuck: thanks for the help. going to watch tv and take a nap ;)01:51
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CosmoHillnight night02:15
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vgradenight CosmoHill, thanks for the eulerProblems link, I might have a go at some of those.  Its years since I programmed02:27
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RobotGuyIs there such a thing as poko linux? I can't seem to find it.02:54
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RobotGuyI've installed the MeeGo Chroot.  I was expecting a handheld version but seem to have gotten a netbook version. Is there a handheld specific chroot?03:22
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RobotGuyWow, the simulator will only run on Intel graphics hardware.  So I guess I won't be tinkering with MeeGo. :( :(03:59
timelesseh?03:59
timelessi had some part of meego run w/ vbox..04:00
RobotGuyI'm reading right off the MeeGo website for installation instructions.04:01
timelessdon't be a robot :b04:01
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ScottishDuckdon't be a robot, guy04:03
ScottishDuckwould have been more appropriate04:03
ScottishDuck:)04:03
timelesstouche04:04
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RobotGuyI really would like to develop for MeeGo, but am not sure how I am going to accomplish that.04:37
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RobotGuyMy laptop has nVidia video.04:43
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ScottishDuckDon't expect nVidia support (ever)05:16
ScottishDucknVidia and intel aren't on the best of terms05:17
GAN900RobotGuy, you're not.05:21
GAN900RobotGuy, unless you bring your own hardware support.05:21
GAN900Because Intel doesn't seem to care about reaching devs.05:21
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RobotGuyGAN900: That wasn't the impression I got at OSCON.07:46
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StskeepsRobotGuy: drop in nvidia libGL etc. has been done before07:51
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h4xordoodheya :)08:06
Stskeepsmorn08:06
h4xordoodi am new here :) i buyed n900 2 days back08:06
h4xordoodjust interested in meego08:07
h4xordood:)08:07
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h4xordoodwill meego device will be launcehd by the end of the year ?08:07
Stskeepscool - no image to show atm, we have some toolchain issues08:07
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h4xordood**launched08:07
Stskeepsno idea about nokia plans08:07
h4xordoodah08:08
h4xordoodi am developer at kde plasma08:08
ljpno one knows about nokia plans :)08:08
h4xordoodmy friends went to akademy this year08:08
h4xordoodtold me about meego had presentation there :)08:08
h4xordoodi am thinking of flashing my n900 with meego08:09
h4xordoodwould that be good idea for now ?08:09
Stskeepsi'd wait a week08:10
h4xordoodor if i can run both maemo & meego as dual boot ?08:10
Stskeepsalso, we do non-destructive dualboot08:10
Stskeepsbuy a microsd and a reader for your pc08:10
h4xordoodStskeeps: k :) thats what i meant :)08:11
h4xordoodi have microsd reader08:11
h4xordoodi have 2gb micro sd in phone08:11
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h4xordoodStskeeps: any  guidance ?08:12
Stskeepsi'd wait a while :)08:13
h4xordoodk thnx :) i will get back to u08:13
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h4xordoodand does meego will have video call for 3g networks ?08:14
h4xordoodi mean maemo doesnt seem to have08:14
Stskeepsat this stage i doubt it. keep ind mind meego on n900 is not nokia meego on n90008:15
h4xordoodStskeeps: didnt understood sorry08:16
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h4xordoodu mean current version of firmware with n900 is not meego. right ?08:16
Stskeepsno, that some day nokia will take tthe open source meego and turn it into a product for new noookia devices, not n90008:18
Stskeepsbbl08:20
h4xordoodah yes i heard about that they will have some new nokia device for meegp08:20
h4xordoodmeego and n900 wont be officially supported08:20
h4xordoodthats what i came to know :\08:21
ljpalthough, n900 is supposed to be a reference platform for meego08:27
h4xordoodso as we not the end users we can hack onto it08:27
h4xordood;P08:27
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h4xordoodhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/21/nokia-7-or-9-inch-meego-tablet-rumored-to-be-running-arm-in-q4/09:35
Stskeepsah, rumours09:37
h4xordoodyeah09:37
h4xordoodbut devices without physical buttons i dont like09:38
h4xordoodso do i dont like most of android htc phones09:38
RST38hWell, Harmattan is said to be ARM-based still09:40
h4xordoodStskeeps: i can wait man tell me the process of meego install without destruction09:40
h4xordoodi am impatient ;P09:40
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h4xordoodStskeeps: ping10:01
Stskeepsplonk10:02
h4xordoodStskeeps: i was asking any guide in installing meego safely dual boot without destruction10:03
h4xordood?10:03
Stskeepswiki.meego.com/ARM/N900 but i told you to wait a week10:04
h4xordoodah okay in a week something new coming ? :\10:05
Stskeepswe might have fixed the toolchain bug there10:08
Stskeepsatm our images doesnt boot10:08
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h4xordoodah10:10
h4xordoodStskeeps: so i can install meego on microsd without destroying phone maemo file system ?10:11
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h4xordoodhmm so mmc card installation u were talking about :)10:15
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Stskeepsbingo10:22
h4xordoodha :) thnx10:22
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h4xordoodi am fedora user so easy :)10:23
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h4xordoodStskeeps: if i ask one more question u wont be angry on me?10:28
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h4xordoodhttp://tablets-dev.nokia.com/meego-codedrop.php i see many files here which one to download ? :\10:29
h4xordoodi am downloading this meego-codedrop-arm-n900-closed-201003311635.ubiimg10:31
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lbtvgrade: woo bloody hoo !10:53
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Stskeepshmm?10:54
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lbthttp://jogglerwiki.info/index.php?title=MeeGo10:58
Stskeepsah yes11:01
vgradestskeeps, lbt just added a link to a prebuilt .img11:13
* lbt stops working and goes to download11:14
vgradelbt, let me know if the instructions need tweaking11:16
lbtwill do11:17
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h4xordoodhow much space does meego require to install ? o_O12:36
h4xordoodon phone12:36
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h4xordoodmeego-codedrop-arm-n900-closed-201003311635.ubiimg hey can this image be installed on Micro SD ? :\13:53
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smeegolhello! i have an assus eee pc and the bluetooth doesn't work.... meego didn't even recognizes the device :S14:41
h4xordoodi think they have said some problem with drivers14:42
h4xordoodiirc14:42
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smeegoli want the smeegol version :(14:44
smeegolanybody has been able to install skype on meego?14:46
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h4xordoodcan some tell me which one to download for n900 mmc install what is raw image ?14:54
h4xordoodi have downloaded .ubiimg :\14:54
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h4xordoodanyone here ?15:18
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* lbt has a meego joggler :)15:35
lbtrunning as root though :O15:36
lbtwho looks after bugs in neverput?15:36
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dailylinuxIs google-chrome removed from repos?16:24
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vgrade_lbt, do I need to make any changes to the instructions16:35
lbtyeah16:35
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lbtmain issue is that startx is running as root16:36
lbtnow I'm not sure how that works... I've got it up and running16:37
lbtbut haven't got time today to dig myself16:37
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vgrade_ok, that was one of the issues I mentioned, I don;t know why uxluanch is not starting X16:37
lbtah, gotch16:38
lbta16:38
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vgrade_it may be linked to not completing the user details on firstboot16:38
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dailylinuxhi all17:01
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dailylinuxno one active here today?17:15
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amjaddubaisunday :)17:30
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h4xordoodhow can i use flasher ?17:40
h4xordoodcan i use flasher from phone itself or from computer ?17:40
h4xordoodi am trying mmc install17:40
GAN900From computer17:41
h4xordoodhm okay is it still dangerius if i do mmc install ?17:42
h4xordoodso if flasher can be useed from computer then whenever i need to boot meego i need to connect device to computer and flash it and then start?17:44
GAN900Erm, no.17:45
GAN900Use a dual boot solution17:45
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h4xordoodGAN900: can i ask few questions ?17:46
h4xordoodmic-image-creator --run-mode=0 --cache=mycachedir --format=raw --arch=armv7l --save-kernel --config=/home/h4xordood/Downloads/MeeGO/meego-handset-armv7l-n900-nokia-closed-1.0.80.8.20100630.ks17:48
h4xordoodi used this command17:48
h4xordoodnow my system is fetching from meego repos some data17:49
h4xordoodso i will get raw image yes ?17:49
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susemeegohello i have an asus 1005 and i can't make intern microphone work... nor the bluetooth devide... someone has the same problem?21:25
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susemeegohello i have an asus 1005 and i can't make intern microphone work... nor the bluetooth devide... someone has the same problem?21:31
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CosmoHillhmm22:00
CosmoHillApparently England was at war with Finland. They're the only two democracies to declare was on each other22:00
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Jartzayeah. and they did attack us too. couple of times :)22:10
Jartzaalthough the attacks were mostly pointed towards german troops, but still, on finish soil :)22:10
Jartzabut finland never attacked britain22:11
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fengshaunis it possible to install meego on intel x86 (non-Atom)?22:22
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dailylinuxhi22:23
toggles_wJartza: it's time22:30
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Jartzatoggles_w: to attack? =)22:32
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toggles_w;-)22:38
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