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susemeegosomeone can tell me how do i have to install the audio / video codecs, and some programs like skype, dropbox and (very important) openoffice? and how do i have to do to mount a big partition on my hdd?03:16
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susemeegosomeone can tell me how do i have to install the audio / video codecs, and some programs like skype, dropbox and (very important) openoffice? and how do i have to do to mount a big partition on my hdd?03:17
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susemeegosomeone can tell me how do i have to install the audio / video codecs, and some programs like skype, dropbox and (very important) openoffice? and how do i have to do to mount a big partition on my hdd?03:27
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susemeegosomeone can tell me how do i have to install the audio / video codecs, and some programs like skype, dropbox and (very important) openoffice? and how do i have to do to mount a big partition on my hdd?03:48
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naknomikI get mic error, just running mic-chroot --unpack-only to explode the iso: mic.imgcreate.errors.CreatorError: Failed to get architecture of /sbin/init06:28
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qgilhi there, I'm trying to follow the instructions to install MeeGo for Netbooks at http://meego.com/devices/netbook/installing-meego-your-netbook - but how can I know the value of <usb drive> in my Linux system?07:23
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qgilin order to execute correctly "# dd bs=4096 if=<image file> of=<usb drive>"07:23
qgilis <usb drive> always = /dev/sda ?07:26
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Stskeepsmorning quim and no07:34
Stskeepsthats very often your main hd :)07:34
Stskeepsgenerally, when you plug in your usb drive, in dmesg it starts talking about some sd*, which is then your usb07:36
Stskeepsnormally with telling size of drive as well, i think07:38
Stskeeps(you'll want to unmount anything your os automounts before dd)07:40
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qgilthanks Stskeeps , is this "sd 5:0:0:0:" dmesg is talking about?07:46
Stskeepshmm, there should be something more earth near like sda/b/c07:46
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qgilmmm  "sdb: sdb1" Stskeeps ?07:50
Stskeepsyep :)07:50
Stskeepssdb it is then07:51
Stskeepsbefore dd'ing, umount /dev/sdb107:51
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qgilthen the instruction in my case is "dd bs=4096 if=meego-netbook-chromium-ia32-1.0-20100524.1.img of=sdb" ?07:53
Stskeepsof=/dev/sdb07:53
qgilok (gosh, isnatlling MeeGo should be definitely simpler)07:54
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Stskeepsthere is actually a tool to aid this called mic-image-writer07:55
Stskeepsnot sure why docs arent mentioning it07:55
qgilI know, but see http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=89407:56
qgilah, mic-image-writer I didn't know07:56
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qgildd seems to be working, thanks Stskeeps !07:57
Stskeepsnp - will probably take ages at bs=4096 but probably best since you have booting issues07:58
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qgilyep, a progress indicator a la apt-get would be nice but whatever07:58
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qgildone. time to reboot and see what happens. bye!08:00
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Stskeepshave fun :)08:01
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RST38hAnyone suggested him to install Ubuntu yet? =)08:02
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Stskeepseating your own dogfood is always good08:03
RST38hIsn't netbook edition mostly Intel's dogfood though?08:03
Stskeepsall meego, how one part works affects platform reputation08:04
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jacquesdupontdhey everybody i don't have that much time14:34
jacquesdupontdi think i have something interesting to propose to the people who will be convinced14:35
jacquesdupontdporting meego to iPhone using openiboot as we did for Android already and as we have nearly finished for Ubuntu, yes that's real14:35
jacquesdupontdand i think it's gonna be even easier with meego14:35
lucazadevgrade how is the emgd driver working? i've seen your video14:36
jacquesdupontdim gonna show you the typicall tutorial page to isntall android on iPhone, very easy14:37
jacquesdupontdhttp://www.idroidproject.org/wiki/Installing_iDroid_%28Linux%2914:37
leinirjacquesdupontd: i might suggest trying that on the -dev mailing list, but in general that sounds like a good idea :)14:37
jacquesdupontdwhat i would need from you is people interested to help me and the same image files14:37
jacquesdupontdok thx leinir14:37
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Stskeepsjacquesdupontd: start with open n900 image if armv7 or n8x0 image (on forums) if armv5 or v614:38
jacquesdupontdcould you try helping me or giving me a link to the image , have you checked the web page to install android have you seen the different files related to android needed so you know the same files i need for n900 meego images ?14:41
Stskeepsn8x0 wsill give you a ui no matter if you have gles or not14:41
jacquesdupontdby the way i was thinking surely about the arm files so the n900 files14:41
jacquesdupontdcould you just supply me a link please ?14:42
Stskeepsgot a serial console.14:42
Stskeeps?14:43
phaeronjacquesdupontd: does the iphone still do phone calls after installing an alternate OS on it ?14:43
jacquesdupontdfor sure14:44
Stskeepsbrb food14:44
jacquesdupontdi actually have dual boots14:44
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phaeronbut while in the alternate OS it doesn't do so14:46
jacquesdupontdon my first boot step i have 3 icons, 1 is OS x Mobile (nomal os) The Second is Console (it's a console to communicate with computer and manage files like installing new os's or desinstalling some, saving nor etc...) and the other one is iDroid14:46
jacquesdupontdi choose wich to boot on14:46
jacquesdupontdand then it boots on it :)14:46
jacquesdupontdsimply as that14:46
jacquesdupontdif i have good hopes for meego it is because it already runs on n900 n8x0 too14:46
jacquesdupontdand i'm kinda stupidly hoping that everything gonna nearly work from first try and then that we will just have to resolve little problem14:47
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phaeronnot sure if that's relevant. Anyway there's information on meego ARM here http://wiki.meego.com/ARM14:47
jacquesdupontdthe most scary thing i'm affraid of is, touchscreen14:47
jacquesdupontd:)14:47
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jacquesdupontdthx a lot14:48
Stskeepsget to a point wher e you can build own image wuth mic2 first14:48
jacquesdupontdjust by the way if i may, we have me and dev friend working on all type of os ported to iphone, created a channel opened to everybody interested in helping making the whole thing evolve and go straight in the futur with your knowledge, irc.osx86.hu and the channel name is #iX14:49
jacquesdupontdi gave the idea of porting meego but anybody can from now start it without my permission at all, of couse i know you knew it but just to say i wont be at all sad of it, instead i will find that very smart from those of you who will give it a try14:50
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jacquesdupontdyou need, an iPhone First Gen or 3g and, a linux computer or linux as virtual machine on windows, that's all14:51
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susemeegoanybody can tell me how can i mount a partiotion on meego?15:24
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susemeegohello! anybody there???????15:27
susemeego:S15:27
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susemeegoCosmoHill: hello15:37
susemeegodo you know how to mount ext4 partitions on meego?15:38
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CosmoHillyes but you're not going to like the answer15:38
susemeegodo you mean we cant?15:39
CosmoHillcorrect15:39
susemeegoO_O why?15:39
CosmoHillit's not supported15:39
CosmoHillthe module isn't compiled in the kernel15:40
till-what about ext2?15:40
till-aren't they compatible?15:40
CosmoHillI believe it is15:40
CosmoHillI don't think you can mount ext4 as ext315:40
till-at least you can mount a ext3 partition with an ext2 driver15:40
susemeego:( i have all my stuff in there and meego is the only OS installed on my pc... :(15:41
dm8tbrtry to build the module manually :)15:42
till-just mount it as an ext2 volume15:42
susemeegoso if i format my pc and i give to the huge partition an ext2 or other meego extention supported... ill be able to mount it?15:42
susemeegotill-: how can i do that?15:42
till-mount /dev/XXX /mountpoint -t ext215:43
till-afaik15:43
susemeegoanother question... i've tried to upload the system but there's an error message saying something about security firm :S15:43
till-in theory ext2, ext3 and ext4 are backwards compatible15:43
susemeegohow can i know the letter of the partition i wanna mount?15:43
till-haven't tried ext4 yet, but with ext3 and ext2 it worked15:43
till-fdisk -l15:44
ScottishDuckyou don't want to use ext2 for your filesystem ._.15:44
susemeegook it's sda415:44
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susemeegoScottishDuck: why? the problem is that i dont wanna format it... i have all my stuff in there :S15:45
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susemeegook so i'mm gonna format it as ext315:47
till-you don't have to i think15:47
susemeegoso?15:47
susemeegoi made what you said and theres an error message15:47
till-saying what?15:47
till-ext3 and ext4 are basically ext2 with some extensions15:48
susemeegomount: el punto de montaje /mountpoint no existe15:48
susemeegoand how can i upload the system as a root?15:48
till-of course you have to give an existing directory15:48
till-for example /mnt as mountpoint15:48
till-or whatever you like15:49
susemeegoso what do i exactly have to write on the terminal?15:50
till-where do you want your volume to be mounted to?15:50
susemeegovicstuff for example15:50
till-whell then do "mkdir /mnt/vicstuff"15:51
till-and if no error message appears do "mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/vicstuff -t ext215:51
till-"15:52
susemeegomount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda4,        missing codepage or helper program, or other error    En algunos casos se encuentra información en syslog, pruebe    dmesg | tail   o algo parecido15:52
till-are you sure it is /dev/sda4?15:53
till-maybe you can send me the output of fdisk -l in query15:53
susemeegowait i'm gonna see it...15:53
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susemeegotill-: nothing appears when i type fdisk -l15:54
till-as root15:55
susemeego:( i have a few of questions... what about installing openoffice, skype and dropbox? and what about audio an video codecs?15:56
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till-well try sda1 and sda215:56
hylixhi15:56
hylixsse2 is still not suported by meego ?15:57
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susemeegotill-: ehat for? the one o wanna mount is sda4 cause i have all my stuff in there lol15:58
till-and you are sure it is sda4?15:58
susemeegoyes15:58
till-try withouth -t ext215:58
susemeegowhatever no problem i'm gonna format it and mount as a home15:58
till-but then your stuff is gone15:59
susemeegoalors... how can i upload the system into meego 1.0.1 as a root?15:59
susemeegotill-: i had a security copy (but no all my stuff is in there... just the important things)15:59
hylixsusemeego: s/alors/then/16:00
susemeegohylix:  lol do you know wo to upload the systemp as a root? i have no idea :S16:01
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hylixsusemeego: tu peux me le dire en francais si tu veux16:01
susemeegolol ok c mieux comme ca16:02
amjaddubai is this french channel??16:02
susemeegoalors je te raconte... chui en train de actualiser le systeme mais quand j'essaie il y a un message d'erreur disant: il ny a pas de signature de securité16:02
hylixamjaddubai: no but its easyier for him16:03
susemeegoi'm not even french lol i'm spanish!16:03
hylixsusemeego: a quel moment16:03
susemeegodans le logiciel d'actualisation!16:03
hylixhum j'ai jamais vu ca :s16:04
susemeegopas de problème je vais reinstiller le système ... quel genre de type de fichier dois-je prendre pour que le disque soit monté o moment de démarrer l'ordinateur?16:05
susemeego*reinstaller16:06
hylixsusemeego: quel disque16:06
hylixsusemeego: celui ou tu as installé ou un autre ?16:06
susemeegocelui ou je garde tout mes trucs... /home mais je veux pas que /home soit dans le système car si je dois tt éffacer je veux garder mes trucs tu vois...16:07
susemeegobon plutot sauvegarder16:07
hylixsusemeego: bah a l'installes tu crées  plusieurs partitions => /boot / et /home16:07
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susemeegomais /home fera parti du système? ou il est indépendant?16:08
susemeegohylix: we can speak english is better if someone has the same problem as me ;) thanks anyway ;)16:08
hylixsusemeego: if you make a partition for /home it will be mounted automatically16:09
susemeegook so ill do it... ill be back when system installed16:09
susemeegosee you guys!16:09
hylixand if you delete root partition it wll not erase /home16:09
susemeegoand thank you very much!16:09
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susemeegohello! i'm trying to upload the meego OS but a message is shown as: theres no security firms... any idea? :S17:29
susemeegotill-: are you there?17:31
susemeegohylix: you?17:32
susemeegoCosmoHill: you? lol17:32
CosmoHillyes but I have no clue17:32
CosmoHillthis an N900 you trying?17:32
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susemeegoCosmoHill: sorry i was eating...17:42
susemeegoi'm on a netbook17:42
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susemeegoasus eepc17:42
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CosmoHillis it on the suppported devices list?17:42
susemeegoyes17:42
susemeegodo you undesrtand spanish? if yes, i can reproduce the message that it shows... cause i don't know if i do the right translation (i'm translator but no idea about linux components name on both languages :S)17:44
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CosmoHillnope17:46
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susemeegoCosmoHill: how can i upgrade as a root?17:51
CosmoHillyou mean become the root user on meego?17:51
susemeegono no17:52
susemeegoi got it... i come from ubuntu and  i didn't know the command yum :P but i got it ;)17:53
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susemeegoCosmoHill: another question... how can i install the adio video codecs and programs like openoffice and skype?17:56
CosmoHillfor skype and open office you'd download them from their website and hope that they work17:57
susemeegothe rpm file?17:57
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meegoOSanybody can explaind to me how to install adio and video codecs on meego?19:45
CosmoHillI'm assuming it's not in the repo19:46
meegoOSthat's it ... and what do you mean?19:46
CosmoHilli think you might have to compile them yourself19:46
meegoOSyes so can i use the same guide as for moblin OS?19:47
CosmoHillyou might be able to19:47
meegoOSso hard to use this OS ...19:48
CosmoHillwell it is about 7 months old19:48
CosmoHilli think the netbook release was late may or early june19:49
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meegoOSCosmoHill: i don't even thing in the last release it's gonna include codecs...19:51
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jacquesdptd_iPadim sorry i came earlier but an another computer wich has shutdown due to non plugged cable19:54
jacquesdptd_iPadand we had given me the link to have binaries or images for meego images for arm 6 plateform19:54
jacquesdptd_iPadi'm gonna try a port of meego on iPhone as we have done for Android an Ubuntu19:54
CosmoHilljacquesdptd_iPad: try looking in the logs19:54
Stskeepsjacquesdptd_iPad: sarch forums fo n8x019:55
jacquesdptd_iPadi'm not on the computer19:55
jacquesdptd_iPadn900 is arm ?19:55
CosmoHillyesa19:55
jacquesdptd_iPadarm 7 ?19:55
jacquesdptd_iPadi mean or still arm6 ?19:55
ShadowJKCortex A819:55
ShadowJKit's armv719:55
jacquesdptd_iPadwhy n8x0 would better match compared to n900 binaries for an iPhone 3g ? (just to be curious)19:56
Stskeepsdepends on processor in iphone 3g19:56
jacquesdptd_iPadsamsung from what i remember19:56
jacquesdptd_iPadlemme check19:56
Stskeepsv5, v6, v7?19:56
jacquesdptd_iPadv719:57
jacquesdptd_iPadsorry19:57
jacquesdptd_iPad19:57
jacquesdptd_iPad619:57
Stskeepsok, then take the n8x0 image19:57
Stskeepsn8x0 is v619:57
jacquesdptd_iPadok that's why then you advice me this binaries19:58
jacquesdptd_iPadStskeeps wouldn't you be interested in joining the crew of meego port we are just starting it19:58
jacquesdptd_iPad?19:58
Stskeepsno19:59
Stskeeps(conflict of interest)19:59
Stskeepsyou can get pointed how to make your own port and image however20:00
Stskeepsa lot of heavy lifting needed from yourself20:00
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Stskeepsstart with getting a fedora 12 installation in a virtual machine20:00
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jacquesdptd_iPadam i good ? http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=31720:05
Stskeepsbut see how far you get in startup with n8x0 image20:05
jacquesdptd_iPadyeah that's what i wanted to try20:06
jacquesdptd_iPadi'm gonna keep you tuned20:06
jacquesdptd_iPadStskeeps: do you think i found the right page ?20:07
MacerStskeeps: newer meego n900 img ready to try?20:08
Macercharging doesnt work? ;)20:09
Maceri will download the n900 img and try it out20:10
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Stskeepshttp://stskeeps.subnetmask.net/meego-n8x0/releases/2010-07-23/20:12
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Macercrap. i have to turn off my phone and open it for a number?20:13
Macerlol20:13
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Maceri will do this when i get home then20:13
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Macerim curious if the gles works20:15
Macer:)20:15
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funkyis the meego installation like joliclouds one?20:25
funkyis it possible to install it within a windows directory?20:26
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jacquesdptd_iPadStskeeps: i'm on one of your page also downloading an image that you've stated to be for the crazy people :)20:41
jacquesdptd_iPadand direct sd image20:41
jacquesdptd_iPadfrom the link i gave above20:41
jacquesdptd_iPadhttp://stskeeps.subnetmask.net/meego-n8x0/meego-1.0-arm-n8x0-201005270252-sda.raw.bz220:42
Stskeepsgrab the one i indicated above20:42
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jacquesdptd_iPadi did20:47
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jacquesdptd_iPadhave you seen how is made the loading of android so you can maybe help me to launch the good file20:47
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jacquesdptd_iPadhttp://www.idroidproject.org/wiki/Installing_iDroid_(Linux)20:50
Stskeepsmore inerested in ubuntu guide20:51
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jacquesdptd_iPadStskeeps: there's no we are discovering it right now at the same time James my friend is trying, it, for now we have managed to build an stable image of ubuntu except we cant get touchscreen firmware working20:55
jacquesdptd_iPadthat's why i wanted by the way also tried meego20:55
jacquesdptd_iPadwhy don't you join us on our channel, we are cool and not a lot irc.osx86.hu and #iX20:55
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jacquesdptd_iPadthat would be very cool, by the way the file you gave me is v5 not v6 is it working anyway on v6 ?20:56
Stskeepsi'm on gprs so i'll just say you have the right one instead of arguing it20:56
RST38h...and moo to meegoo too20:57
Stskeepsand no, not joining another network20:57
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RST38hYou mean, iPhone hackers have even got their own IRC network?20:59
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jacquesdptd_iPadok big thanks anyway Stskeeps i assume you have a lot of work and that sort of challenge or not interesting enought, but you've helped me just enough for us to give it a try, if you're telling me there's no v6 files, big thx again21:03
jacquesdptd_iPadyes21:03
jacquesdptd_iPadRST38h: we are actually making a port of Ubuntu , only touch screen firmware not working (very hard) and we would like to give a try to meego so if anybody would like to join our team you are all very welcome, the knowledge doesn't matter, only motivation count21:05
jacquesdptd_iPadirc.osx86.hu channel #iX21:05
Stskeepsjacquesdptd_iPad: your challenge is to be able to build your own images, get a fedora vm and get to a point where you can build the image yourself using the .ks21:05
jacquesdptd_iPadthx Stskeeps21:05
jacquesdptd_iPadthat's what we have planned21:06
jacquesdptd_iPadwith qemu21:06
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Stskeepsnah, just get virtualbox or kvm21:06
jacquesdptd_iPadbut i wanted to give a try to the meego directly21:06
Stskeepsor vmware21:06
jacquesdptd_iPadok21:06
naknomikwhat pastebin do I use?21:06
Stskeepspastebin.coj?21:06
jacquesdptd_iPadjust to see where it would stop21:06
Stskeepscom21:06
jacquesdptd_iPadjust to see21:07
Stskeepsjacquesdptd_iPad: yes, try image first on device21:07
jacquesdptd_iPadand when you asked me for ubuntu tutorial, JamesS my friend would have answered you better than me but i could make him come here instead of you joining us21:07
Stskeepsit will likely stop at X, which is why you need to build own image21:07
naknomikI'm running mic to convert a livecd image to liveusb image and can't figure out what's wrong. http://pastebin.com/4Q3D24yy21:08
jacquesdptd_iPadmy friend who made the port of ubuntu is comming directly21:08
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Stskeepsand ask him to join #meego-arm - channel is for porting meego to arm, -not us doing all the work for you-, we help eachother and actively search out solutions21:09
jacquesdptd_iPadok21:09
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naknomikit gives error about 'No such file or directory' but I can't figure out what is missing, can anybody help?21:09
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naknomikanybody?21:11
CosmoHillwould need more informaton21:11
CosmoHilllike what are you trying to do21:11
naknomikCosmoHill: http://pastebin.com/4Q3D24yy21:11
CosmoHillopen /usr/lib/python2.6/subprocess.py and go to line 113921:12
jacquesdptd_iPadStskeeps: that's not at all what we want you to do, it's not who will do the more, we are just discovering and you've well advised me, thx a lot for your time21:12
jacquesdptd_iPadwe gonna continue on #meego-arm21:13
naknomikCosmoHill: here's what I'm trying to do: Convert MeeGo 1.0 livecd image (.iso) to a liveusb image. Why? Because Sony Vaio netbook won't boot from a USB key with livecd image, but I've heard from people that it'll boot with liveusb image.21:13
CosmoHilli thought there was only a liveusb image21:14
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CosmoHillnaknomik: http://cross-lfs.org/~cosmo/meego/meego-netbook-chromium-ia32-1.0-20100524.1.img21:15
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CosmoHillthe image should be the same for USB or a CD21:15
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naknomikaaaaaarrrgh!!! Found the problem: mic-image-convertor is installed in /usr/local/bin and is being invoked as /usr/bin/mic-image-convertor File "/usr/local/bin/mic-chroot", line 233, in main21:17
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CosmoHillthat's good, easy to fix too21:17
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JameswSQuick question: Is Meego loaded via initramfs or initrd?21:27
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naknomikfiled a bug21:27
naknomikbmc #400721:28
cookie123Hi all - Is meego available on a pocket size device apart from N900=Brick in pocket21:28
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thiagocookie123: yes21:31
thiagocookie123: the Aava Mobile devices21:32
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CosmoHillhey thiago21:33
cookie123Thanks thiago..... appreciated21:33
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cookie123Almost bought an android desire today - but there's something inside me that wants meego21:34
cookie123I think it's called linux21:34
CosmoHillI thought android was linux based21:34
thiagoit's a fork of Linux21:34
cookie123And closed21:35
thiagoi.e., it uses a fork of the Linux kernel and an entirely different userspace21:35
CosmoHillI'm off to wikipedia, if I'm not back in 5, please come and get me21:35
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naknomikI'm getting an error while running mic-chroot saying 'No space left on device' I have plenty of space on the device I'm writing to > 4GB. Can't really figure out where the space is not adequate, any clues?21:43
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thiagoCosmoHill: it's been 1021:45
CosmoHillI'm back21:45
CosmoHillthanks :)21:46
thiagowhat did you learn from Wicipædia ?21:46
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CosmoHilllast time I went to look up SIMD, two and a half hours later I came off wikipedia21:46
CosmoHillthiago: network issues of andriod21:46
thiagoyeah, I hate wikipedia for that too21:46
thiagomade me lose a lot of sleep21:46
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CosmoHillbetter than facebook tho21:47
CosmoHillyou come off of wikipedia smarter than before21:47
CosmoHillinstead of bitchier21:47
ljpwhats wikipedia?21:47
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CosmoHillsomething to make your lecturer's frown when they read your assignment reference page21:48
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thiagoljp: morning lorn21:50
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ljpmorning21:51
CosmoHillwhat's the easiest way to load a 20x20 matrix?21:51
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TSCHAKeeeumm, memcpy? :D21:55
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CosmoHillI'm doing this: http://projecteuler.net/index.php?section=problems&id=1122:00
CosmoHillif anyone wants to have a go too22:00
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CosmoHillright, data is now loaded but I think "08" vanishes for some reason22:14
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GAN900When did EDGE get faster?22:44
GAN90025KB/sec?22:44
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TSCHAKeeewhen more ppl started using 3G22:47
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GAN900Mmm22:59
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CosmoHilloh that's right, you can't multiple by zero23:09
GAN900You can't?23:12
GAN900Divide, surely.23:12
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CosmoHilltry 2 * 0 * 223:13
TSCHAKeeenot that you can't23:13
TSCHAKeeebut that any 0 makes it 023:13
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RobotGuyHello23:19
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remlabmhaving an issue booting to a USB image of meebo.. "No Default or UI configuration directive found!" anyone have idea on that?23:48
remlabmmeego*23:49
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