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| pvdm | hello, is there an app on meego to use IRC? can't seem 2 find it | 00:21 |
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| CosmoHill | I know there is one but not that it's called | 00:21 |
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| pvdm | CosmoHill: TX | 00:23 |
| CosmoHill | basically, keep looking, you'll find it sooner or later | 00:23 |
| pvdm | also, if i install an app, how to start it when it does not show in applist? | 00:24 |
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| skyscraper | is that a problem? | 00:27 |
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| DawnFoster | lbt: ping | 00:49 |
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| th0br0 | hello everyone, hello DawnFoster :) | 01:36 |
| DawnFoster | hey th0br0 | 01:37 |
| th0br0 | how's meego doing | 01:37 |
| th0br0 | ? | 01:37 |
| th0br0 | and everyone else too :) | 01:38 |
| DawnFoster | that's a mighty broad question :) | 01:38 |
| th0br0 | indeed it is, but i haven't been around much lately. busy with my courses here :( so let's focus on meego for now? | 01:39 |
| DawnFoster | things are going pretty well. We have the code out in the open, people are finding and fixing bugs, so we're making progress | 01:39 |
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| th0br0 | cool. how's the community repo coming along? | 01:40 |
| DawnFoster | lbt has the community obs available for beta testing | 01:40 |
| th0br0 | that's great. | 01:40 |
| DawnFoster | I can't seem to find any instructions / links for it | 01:41 |
| DawnFoster | lbt - you around? | 01:41 |
| th0br0 | i'll ask him once he's around | 01:41 |
| DawnFoster | we need to update this page http://wiki.meego.com/Build_Infrastructure#Community_Build_System | 01:41 |
| DawnFoster | with some details | 01:41 |
| th0br0 | but i mean it's like almost 2 am where he lives, isn't it? | 01:41 |
| DawnFoster | exactly | 01:42 |
| DawnFoster | his irc status is available :) | 01:42 |
| DawnFoster | (I forget to set mine to away, too) | 01:42 |
| th0br0 | ^^ | 01:42 |
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| th0br0 | so what's the next big step on the meego roadmap ? have there been any updates regarding that? | 01:44 |
| DawnFoster | people are really focused on 1.1 development for the october release | 01:45 |
| th0br0 | ok | 01:46 |
| DawnFoster | http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Plans/1.1 | 01:46 |
| th0br0 | thanks | 01:46 |
| DawnFoster | and we're hoping to have the submission form / registration live for the meeGo conference on Aug 1. | 01:46 |
| th0br0 | sounds cool. | 01:47 |
| th0br0 | can't attend most probably. | 01:47 |
| th0br0 | :( | 01:47 |
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| DawnFoster | we hope to record most of the session (budget permitting) | 01:47 |
| DawnFoster | ideally livestreamed and then archived. | 01:47 |
| th0br0 | that'd be awesome. | 01:48 |
| DawnFoster | it's a lot of work do a really nice livestream / video, so we'll see what happens | 01:48 |
| DawnFoster | I'm really pushing for it, though | 01:48 |
| th0br0 | ok | 01:48 |
| CosmoHill | hey th0br0 | 01:48 |
| lcuk | live streaming has bandwidth issues - you would be wise to have 2 distinct network uplinks, one for infrastructure the other for participants | 01:49 |
| th0br0 | heya CosmoHill, how're your studies? | 01:49 |
| CosmoHill | I finished uni on the 1st of June :) | 01:49 |
| CosmoHill | but my project is going okay | 01:49 |
| th0br0 | ah that's awesome. | 01:49 |
| CosmoHill | configured an active directory and installed DHCP and DNS | 01:49 |
| th0br0 | so you've got semester holidays (or whatever you call them over there) now? (or did you mean you finished with uni for good?) | 01:49 |
| CosmoHill | summer hoildays | 01:50 |
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| CosmoHill | 1st of June to 20th of September :) | 01:50 |
| th0br0 | ah o9k | 01:50 |
| th0br0 | *ok, that's pretty long | 01:50 |
| CosmoHill | indeed | 01:50 |
| CosmoHill | as long as I have friends and computers to play with I'll be happy | 01:51 |
| th0br0 | :D | 01:51 |
| CosmoHill | I'll show you a picture I took today | 01:51 |
| th0br0 | ok | 01:52 |
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| CosmoHill | http://cross-lfs.org/~cosmo/cosmo_cluster/computer-corner.jpg | 01:55 |
| th0br0 | lol, you really have too many computers | 01:55 |
| CosmoHill | this is what happens when I take a day off | 01:55 |
| th0br0 | are they in your uni? | 01:55 |
| CosmoHill | yep | 01:55 |
| th0br0 | k | 01:56 |
| CosmoHill | it''s the corner of a lab | 01:56 |
| th0br0 | yeah | 01:56 |
| CosmoHill | far right you can see the corner of my desk | 01:56 |
| CosmoHill | / the desktop thats on it | 01:56 |
| th0br0 | ^^ | 01:56 |
| CosmoHill | there are 18 monitors in that shot | 01:56 |
| CosmoHill | and 32 computers | 01:57 |
| CosmoHill | 33* | 01:57 |
| DawnFoster | lcuk: yep, that's one of the things we are talking about. We live stream some events that I organize here in Portland, and a second, isolated network connection is a must-have | 01:57 |
| DawnFoster | especially at geek events - we'll chew up all of the bandwidth without the live stream :) | 01:58 |
| th0br0 | :) | 01:58 |
| lcuk | DawnFoster, technically a great geek event would actively block internet. | 01:58 |
| CosmoHill | that reminds me, there is a webcast I'm meant to download | 01:58 |
| DawnFoster | we'd have people shaking in the corners going through withdrawal :) | 01:59 |
| lcuk | let the users figure out new communication methods :D | 01:59 |
| lcuk | lol | 01:59 |
| DawnFoster | I'm getting squeamy just thinking about being without *gasp* a network connection | 01:59 |
| lcuk | was up i nthe lake district camping this weekend just gone - there was barely any internet | 02:00 |
| DawnFoster | I usually try to take some kind of beach vacation where I can unplug, but I haven't done one in 2 years. | 02:00 |
| DawnFoster | it must be about time | 02:01 |
| lcuk | you are right beaches and technology arent compatible | 02:01 |
| lcuk | i think ive still got sand in one of my 900s | 02:01 |
| DawnFoster | especially if it's in another country where they charge me ridiculous roaming rates | 02:02 |
| lcuk | CosmoHill, when i was at college, the summer holiday computer switchover changed all the monitors like you | 02:02 |
| DawnFoster | motivates me to keep the phone off | 02:02 |
| lcuk | but we made an archway with the crts | 02:02 |
| lcuk | heh DawnFoster if more telecoms execs were in that situation we might have sane roaming rates | 02:02 |
| lcuk | there was loads of people at the last maemo summit who wanted gps/mapping but it wouldnt work without data connection | 02:03 |
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| CosmoHill | lcuk: I helped do a lab :) | 02:04 |
| CosmoHill | I get all the old computers from it (black ones on the right) | 02:04 |
| th0br0 | lcuk: well, roaming rates got cut in the eu :D | 02:04 |
| * CosmoHill high fives th0br0 | 02:04 | |
| lcuk | nice CosmoHill :) | 02:05 |
| CosmoHill | it's going back to the mid-90s where if someone phones you you have to pay the connection charge | 02:05 |
| lcuk | i got my first pc from college | 02:05 |
| CosmoHill | I've gotten two | 02:06 |
| CosmoHill | one 500Mhz P3 :| | 02:06 |
| CosmoHill | and a 2.4Ghz tower | 02:06 |
| lcuk | hah, thats a scorcher! | 02:06 |
| CosmoHill | i thought it was 2 x 1Ghz :( | 02:06 |
| th0br0 | i've gotten one from my school so far :) 2x3.6ghz xenons ;) | 02:06 |
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| CosmoHill | i hate you now | 02:06 |
| lcuk | lol CosmoHill learn to read: 1/2ghz != 2*1ghz :p | 02:07 |
| th0br0 | :P | 02:07 |
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| CosmoHill | lol | 02:07 |
| CosmoHill | I actually live off hand outs / hand me downs, technologically speaking | 02:07 |
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| CosmoHill | I've had one desktop and one laptop bought for me | 02:09 |
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| CosmoHill | hmm | 02:19 |
| CosmoHill | someone made a DRM/KMS driver for the Voodoo 3 graphics card | 02:19 |
| CosmoHill | cyas | 02:20 |
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| microlith | wow, voodoo3 | 02:42 |
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| fzfq3m | hi there guys... Is it possible to boot Meego Handset preview (with nokia closed source components) from SD Card by using the .ubiimg file downloaded from nokia? | 02:47 |
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| dadead | do you guys support Acer Aspire One 532h? | 03:53 |
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| trip0 | dadead, http://wiki.meego.com/Devices | 03:54 |
| trip0 | dadead, if it's not on the list, than it's either a "no" or an "unknown" | 03:55 |
| dadead | aww | 03:55 |
| trip0 | the AO532-h is on the list though | 03:55 |
| trip0 | if that's the same as what you have... | 03:56 |
| dadead | nope, 532h | 03:56 |
| trip0 | I'd try it anyway | 03:56 |
| trip0 | my wife's Dell isn't listed | 03:56 |
| dadead | ya | 03:56 |
| trip0 | but it works | 03:56 |
| trip0 | (except wifi, but that's fixable) | 03:57 |
| dadead | mic and cam? | 03:57 |
| dadead | oh | 03:57 |
| dadead | hmm | 03:57 |
| trip0 | mic works | 03:57 |
| trip0 | cam... i don't recall testing that | 03:57 |
| trip0 | but i think it does | 03:57 |
| dadead | how would you fix the wifiand what reps do you guys go thru | 03:58 |
| trip0 | dadead, i compiled the wifi driver from src | 03:58 |
| trip0 | i'm only using the default repos atm | 03:58 |
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| dadead | meego have there own? | 03:59 |
| trip0 | it used the broadcom drivers | 03:59 |
| trip0 | dadead, yes, meego has its own repo | 03:59 |
| dadead | hmm | 03:59 |
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| copyleft | X-Fade, lbt, xen libblkid problem is fixed now. Thanks! | 06:07 |
| microlith | ouch | 06:07 |
| microlith | http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Droid-smartphone-ROMs-android-root,news-7467.html | 06:07 |
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| Jenna | Hiya all | 09:41 |
| Jenna | is version 1 production ready for n900. | 09:42 |
| Stskeeps | anything that'll be production ready would be 1.1 | 09:42 |
| Jenna | I mean can I go ahead with replacing my maemo with meego | 09:42 |
| Stskeeps | no | 09:42 |
| Jenna | hmm. okay | 09:42 |
| Jenna | btw when is 1.1 due . any idea ? | 09:43 |
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| Stskeeps | october | 09:43 |
| Jenna | nice. | 09:43 |
| Stskeeps | and consider that this is a open source project, it's not a productized nokia product | 09:43 |
| Jenna | would 1.1 meego consume lesser of the battery. I mean any improvement on battery manager side. My n900 battery with maemo lasts only 24 hours. | 09:44 |
| Stskeeps | if it only lasts 24 hours, you need to look into what causes it - a router with no PSM tends to do that | 09:45 |
| Stskeeps | or a misbehaving applet | 09:45 |
| _Pete_ | Jenna: doing what on that 24h? | 09:45 |
| Jenna | Stskeeps, I understand that. but Im assuming Nokia would endorse one of those version for N900 (maybe as an advisory if not officially) | 09:45 |
| Stskeeps | Jenna: well, we'll see where we end up | 09:46 |
| Jenna | PSM ? | 09:46 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.maemo.org/Wifi_Power_Saving_Mode_(PSM) | 09:46 |
| Jenna | ah. | 09:46 |
| Jenna | wifi is most of the times off | 09:47 |
| Stskeeps | a bad router can severely affect your wifi, so | 09:47 |
| _Pete_ | Jenna: looking my n900 battery-eye it has been up and running without charging well over two days | 09:47 |
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| _Pete_ | mostly idle on that time | 09:47 |
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| Jenna | hmm. I wonder if there is any documentation/advisory which would help me mend my Power_Wasting_mode habits | 09:49 |
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| Stskeeps | what router do you have? | 09:50 |
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| Jenna | Stskeeps, I dont have any router. I just connect it with my laptop running in "Adhoc" mode. (ubuntu) | 09:51 |
| Stskeeps | ah, that's why | 09:52 |
| Stskeeps | it burns power like insane | 09:52 |
| Jenna | how come ? | 09:52 |
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| Stskeeps | connection's always turned on, with a router it would be able to shut down in intervals and save power when no traffic is being sent | 09:52 |
| Jenna | Stskeeps, I only turn on the internet connection when I need to access/transfer data. other wise blooth/wifi are off | 09:53 |
| Jenna | my Internet Access mode is set to "always ask" before connect. | 09:54 |
| Stskeeps | right, but it needs to burn more than needed when it is up, dragging on the battery | 09:54 |
| Stskeeps | but look into the battery graph softwares | 09:54 |
| Stskeeps | then you can investigate why things go down | 09:54 |
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| Stskeeps | http://www.maemocommunity.com/720/nokia-n900-batterygraph-application/ | 09:54 |
| Jenna | hmm. okay Im gonna digg into those as wel.. | 09:55 |
| Stskeeps | with heavy use, i charge mine when i sleep, normally. | 09:56 |
| Jenna | btw ideally how long should a battery last (for 4-5 calls (5min) a day) ? | 09:56 |
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| Jenna | Stskeeps, I use darker themes (not so bright wall papers n stuff). but it doesn' t help much. | 09:56 |
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| thiago_home | my battery can last two 1-hour calls at least | 09:59 |
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| Jenna | thiago_home, long distance calls ? | 09:59 |
| thiago_home | no, the call goes to the nearest cell tower :-) | 09:59 |
| Jenna | :-) | 10:00 |
| thiago_home | local call, long distance or international, that doesn't influence the power consumption | 10:00 |
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| Jenna | okay thanx guys | 10:00 |
| thiago_home | but I've been in calls to finland and the UK that lasted an hour | 10:01 |
| Jenna | gona rtfm a little on the subject | 10:01 |
| ljp | you must like talking on the phone | 10:01 |
| thiago_home | ljp: headphones and mute make a great difference :-) | 10:01 |
| * Jenna can tell from thiago's name about his gender | 10:02 | |
| Myrtti | moin | 10:02 |
| * thiago_home can do the same to Jenna | 10:02 | |
| Myrtti | so how's meegoland today | 10:02 |
| thiago_home | :-) | 10:02 |
| Jenna | :) | 10:02 |
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| thiago_home | ljp: comes with the territory anyway. I'm on those long calls so you guys don't have to be :-) | 10:04 |
| ljp | better you than me, thats for sure | 10:04 |
| Myrtti | as long as one gets paid for making those phonecalls... | 10:04 |
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| ljp | thiago works for shiny things | 10:06 |
| thiago_home | Myrtti: you mean the phone bill? | 10:06 |
| Stskeeps | or having to deal with people not understanding the mute button ;) | 10:07 |
| Myrtti | thiago_home: a paycheck from employer works | 10:07 |
| ljp | thiago_home: have you been able to ssh into your meego device? | 10:07 |
| thiago_home | Stskeeps: that's why you only go to calls with veteran voice conference people | 10:07 |
| thiago_home | ever watched the movie "Up in the Air" ? | 10:07 |
| Myrtti | the one with george clooney? | 10:08 |
| thiago_home | there's a scene where George Clooney is explaining how you should go in the queue with veteran travellers | 10:08 |
| thiago_home | slip-on shoes, nothing in their pockets, etc. | 10:08 |
| thiago_home | same thing: you prefer calls with people who know they have to mute | 10:08 |
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| thiago_home | though every now and then there's a moment of silence and then someone says, "if you're talking, you forgot to unmute" :-) | 10:09 |
| * ljp cant seem to ssh into either n900 meego or the other one | 10:09 | |
| ttj | Best ones are the ones who forget to mute and fall asleep. | 10:09 |
| thiago_home | ttj: I've heard of a case where someone forgot to mute and went to the restroom | 10:10 |
| ttj | Yeah, that happens occasionally, I guess. | 10:10 |
| Macer | so how well is n900 dev coming along? | 10:10 |
| Stskeeps | good(TM) | 10:10 |
| Macer | i would like to try out meego this weekend | 10:10 |
| Stskeeps | i'd wait until next weekly | 10:10 |
| ttj | But it typically stops. If someone has an unmuted phone and starts snoring, that's really annoying as it doesn't stop anytime soon. :) | 10:11 |
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| Macer | ah ok | 10:11 |
| Macer | Stskeeps: gles support added to the ui? | 10:11 |
| Macer | what wm is it using? | 10:11 |
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| Stskeeps | mcompositor, handset ux | 10:11 |
| Macer | modded matchbox like maemo? | 10:11 |
| Macer | ah ok | 10:11 |
| Macer | how is the ui coming along? | 10:12 |
| Macer | what's left hw wise to get working? wifi and cell modem? | 10:12 |
| Stskeeps | wifi we might have nailed now, cell modem is in progress (kernel support first, then userland) | 10:12 |
| Macer | thats great | 10:13 |
| Macer | cant wait to check it out :) | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | not horribly exciting, but it might be eventually | 10:13 |
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| Macer | im sure it will be rough around the edges for a while | 10:13 |
| ljp | exciting if your work depends on it | 10:13 |
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| Macer | but then i remember my g1 when android first came out | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | ljp: you were going to do some qt mobility stuff? | 10:14 |
| Macer | a year or so later they have done some pretty good work with android | 10:14 |
| ljp | Stskeeps: yes. connman plugin for bearermanagement in Qt, among other things | 10:15 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: planning to use a n900 for testing? | 10:15 |
| thiago_home | ljp: where's your code, btw? | 10:15 |
| thiago_home | ljp: I'd like to take a look to write the backend for the network manager plasmoid | 10:15 |
| ljp | thiago_home: waiting for oslo1 to clear. nm lugin is already in qt | 10:16 |
| ljp | plugin | 10:16 |
| thiago_home | right | 10:16 |
| thiago_home | but the plasmoid only does NM, which isn't useful on Meego | 10:16 |
| * thiago_home can't control his wifi from KDE while on MeeGo | 10:16 | |
| ljp | thiago_home: I also have written ^H^H^H^H hacked a connman applet | 10:17 |
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| lbt | morn-ing | 10:22 |
| Stskeeps | moo-rning lbt | 10:22 |
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| X-Fade | moin | 10:31 |
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| lbt | X-Fade: so... community OBS builds MeeGo apps for all arches against core for current weekly snapshot and 1.0 | 10:33 |
| * lbt hi-5s X-Fade | 10:34 | |
| X-Fade | At least uxlaunch managed got built against all, worked fine :) | 10:34 |
| X-Fade | s/got/to get/ | 10:35 |
| infobot | X-Fade meant: At least uxlaunch managed to get built against all, worked fine :) | 10:35 |
| lbt | yes... I need Anaz or someone to explain a bit more about the repos on meego.com | 10:35 |
| lbt | and decide how we should setup targets on the community OBS | 10:35 |
| X-Fade | I also wonder what to do about per UX targets? | 10:35 |
| lbt | I don't know if it's enough to throw *all* rpms into a single pool | 10:35 |
| lbt | there should be no collisions | 10:36 |
| X-Fade | Depends on if there are modified packages for a certain UX. | 10:36 |
| Stskeeps | against preview+weekly makes a lot of sense | 10:36 |
| lbt | shouldn't be | 10:36 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: yup... and we'll allow w-1 and w-2 aswell | 10:36 |
| lbt | so if a build fails one week you can regression test | 10:37 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: i guess it isn't possible to linkpac against MeeGo main OBS packages on community obs yet? | 10:48 |
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| lbt | it was :( | 10:48 |
| X-Fade | That got killed. | 10:49 |
| lbt | nag anaZ | 10:49 |
| Stskeeps | ah, cos of linking | 10:49 |
| lbt | *if* someone linked against chrome it hurts | 10:49 |
| lbt | that's about it IIRC | 10:49 |
| Stskeeps | fair enough | 10:49 |
| lbt | although the bandwidth is so slow I guess it could be worse than that to be fair | 10:50 |
| Stskeeps | was main OBS at OSU yet or not? | 10:50 |
| X-Fade | Don't think so. | 10:50 |
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| lbt | X-Fade: we should discuss on here... :) | 10:53 |
| X-Fade | I guess we should see if we can remove the Power achitecture stats too. Nothing using ppc. | 10:54 |
| lbt | agreed .... (make sure you note any config changes on the wiki) | 10:55 |
| lbt | and I wonder if we should move to the meego wiki too | 10:56 |
| X-Fade | Let's do that when we go public when we are at OSU? | 10:56 |
| X-Fade | We can just wiki export->wiki import. | 10:57 |
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| lbt | sure | 10:57 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: ping | 11:31 |
| lbt | pong Stskeeps | 11:32 |
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| Stskeeps | nm, unping :P i was looking for a way to see when a package broke compilation | 11:33 |
| lbt | large swathes of red | 11:33 |
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| Stskeeps | it could be nice that when a package fails to compile, it spews out the diff from the last package that worked | 11:33 |
| lbt | *nod* | 11:34 |
| lbt | we're looking at the notification side | 11:35 |
| lbt | as part of workflow | 11:35 |
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| Stskeeps | morning slaine | 11:37 |
| slaine | morning Stskeeps | 11:37 |
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| nicofs | Does the current meego release have 3g support? | 11:45 |
| thiago | yes | 11:45 |
| Stskeeps | handset,netbook? | 11:45 |
| thiago | the question is whether it supports your 3G hw | 11:45 |
| nicofs | thiago: there is no 3g in the networks section... | 11:46 |
| nicofs | stskeeps: netbook | 11:47 |
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| nicofs | I am just trying to find out, if I should use MeeGo instead of xubuntu (which I use atm) - because I read that meego would be able to support extremely fast boot times... but so far I am not really convinced... can I get meego with a "normal" interface and not the absolutely reduced one? | 11:50 |
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| nicofs | (this would be your chance to "convert" me...) | 11:53 |
| Stskeeps | we're not here to evangelise, i believe that the user should make choices based on his experiences | 11:54 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:54 |
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| lpotter | meego is currently a work in progress | 11:55 |
| nicofs | stskeeps: yes, but with all the distros out there I don't have the time to experience them all... so I rely on those who already use them to give me some information... | 11:55 |
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| lbt | sheesh ... you guys have never been in Marketing... nicofs : MeeGo is the best thing since sliced bread. It will give you larger pectorals and boots faster than you can swallow an oyster! | 11:56 |
| Stskeeps | what on earth is a pectoral | 11:56 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: I know you don't know ;) | 11:56 |
| rdb_ | Hey all, | 11:57 |
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| nicofs | lbt: can I get it with a different interface? the current one doesn't even have a button to shut down... | 11:57 |
| rdb_ | Is there any news on getting the meego x windows environment running in handset builds? Or are we all still waiting for a uxlaunch fix? | 11:58 |
| lbt | nicofs: MeeGo is so good you won't want to shut it down | 11:58 |
| nicofs | lbt: I think you are starting to overdo the marketing bit... | 11:58 |
| lbt | ah... maybe you should listen to lpotter then ;) | 11:58 |
| Stskeeps | rdb_: uxlaunch fix is now in Trunk:Testing, next step is into trnk | 11:59 |
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| rdb_ | Awesome - any way I can track it? | 11:59 |
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| Stskeeps | meego-commits@ mailing list | 12:00 |
| rdb_ | Is the sign up on the meego site? | 12:00 |
| Stskeeps | and the release process diagram showing when stuf gets published | 12:00 |
| Stskeeps | http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-commits | 12:01 |
| nicofs | lbt: the thing is... with the integrated network manager, I can't even access my network... (encryption)... so far, nothing has convinced me to use meego, except for the _promise_ of a fast boot time - a thing I will find out only after having installed it over my more or less working xubuntu distro... | 12:01 |
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| lbt | nicofs: frankly it doesn't sound like you and MeeGo are ready for each other quite yet :) | 12:02 |
| rdb_ | stskeeps: thanks much appreiciated! | 12:03 |
| nicofs | lbt: unless I can somehow get it with an X interface, I think you're right... because the way I see it, getting it to work needs a lot of command line-ing and that makes the "easy" interface somehow redundant... | 12:04 |
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| lpotter | well.. it is a work in progress right now | 12:05 |
| nicofs | anyway thanks, you saved me a day of installing and failing with it... | 12:07 |
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| lbt | nicofs: no problem... | 12:07 |
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| lpotter | come back in a few months | 12:08 |
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| rdb_ | Stskeeps: Do you have a link to the release process diagram you mentioned? I'm trying to get caught up with the community but I'm finding it difficult to find all these resources | 12:09 |
| Stskeeps | rdb_: http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering , http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Process | 12:10 |
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| theplic | hi all do u think meego will run on this: http://www.ubisurfer.com/ | 12:20 |
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| Stskeeps | it doesn't say anything about graphics chipset or processor | 12:21 |
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| theplic | Stskeeps: it is written in the specifications page. its an ARM processor | 12:23 |
| Stskeeps | really? well, which one of them? ;) | 12:23 |
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| rdb_ | Stskeeps: How is the n8x0 project coming along? Have you managed to get an x windows environment yet? | 12:31 |
| Stskeeps | rdb_: no, much worse.. hang on | 12:31 |
| Termana | Hes going to need a moment to cry about how bad it is | 12:32 |
| Stskeeps | rdb_: http://forum.meego.com/showpost.php?p=5603&postcount=49 | 12:32 |
| rdb_ | Yeah I saw that ... has that been repeated by anyone else? I thought the x windows stuff was broken? | 12:33 |
| Stskeeps | i had a trick up my sleeve for that, but i repeated it today | 12:33 |
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| rdb_ | Any success? | 12:34 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, showed up in portrait mode of all things :P | 12:34 |
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| rdb_ | What was the fix? Maybe I could try it on my armv6 dev board while I'm waiting for uxlaunch | 12:35 |
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| Stskeeps | it's a really stupid fix. do you have X-MEEGO-HS in your /etc/xdg/autostart/ (i think)? | 12:35 |
| Stskeeps | and not X-DUI | 12:35 |
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| Stskeeps | rename /usr/bin/mcompositor to /usr/bin/mompositor and edit your /etc/sysconfig/uxlaunch to the same | 12:36 |
| rdb_ | Making the changes now... | 12:38 |
| w00t_ | Stskeeps: ..wtf :P | 12:38 |
| Stskeeps | w00t_: it's the Mom UX. | 12:38 |
| Stskeeps | kinda like clippy, but she has bigger power over you | 12:38 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:38 |
| rdb_ | :P | 12:38 |
| Stskeeps | rdb_: if you're doing meego arm related work, #meego-arm is a place for you too | 12:39 |
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| FunkyPenguin | anyone know of any distros that have 1.0 netbook available yet? | 12:40 |
| rdb_ | I'm trying to create a handset build for a Broadcom ARM dev board | 12:40 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 12:40 |
| rdb_ | Just fyi ... | 12:40 |
| Myrtti | FunkyPenguin: say again? | 12:41 |
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| rdb_ | I don't appear to have an X-MEEGO-HS or a X-DUI in /etc/xdg/autostart | 12:43 |
| rdb_ | :s | 12:43 |
| Stskeeps | really? in *.desktop files? | 12:43 |
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| rdb_ | Oh - I thought you meant a file .... my bad | 12:43 |
| FunkyPenguin | Myrtti, my question is: have any other distro (fedora/gentoo/etc) got MeeGo 1.0 available? | 12:44 |
| Myrtti | FunkyPenguin: MeeGo is a distro of it's own | 12:45 |
| FunkyPenguin | i know fedora have a moblin spin, but what about meego | 12:45 |
| FunkyPenguin | Myrtti, ok, what about including the MeeGo UX? | 12:45 |
| rdb_ | Okay so in /autostart i have a | 12:46 |
| FunkyPenguin | maybe im old fashioned, but Moblin prided itself on being 3 things, a reference platform/a UX/a distro | 12:46 |
| FunkyPenguin | have things changed that much with meego? | 12:46 |
| rdb_ | conman-applet.desktop xfce4-settings-helper-autostart.desktop xfce4-tips-autostart.desktop pulseaudio.desktop | 12:46 |
| rdb_ | none of which seem to contain references to X-MEEGO or X-DUI | 12:47 |
| Stskeeps | ok, think you must have the wrong desktop in | 12:47 |
| Myrtti | FunkyPenguin: I wouldn't really know | 12:47 |
| rdb_ | Ah ... a problem with my build? | 12:48 |
| Stskeeps | rdb_: what .ks did you base off? | 12:48 |
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| rdb_ | I based it off your n8x0 one then modified it ... is there somewhere I could share it with you? | 12:49 |
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| Stskeeps | pastebin.com is fine | 12:49 |
| Termana | What your asking is, has any of the other distros packaged the Netbook UI? Not that I know of. | 12:49 |
| Termana | At least not yet. | 12:49 |
| rdb_ | Stskeeps: http://pastebin.com/EF6gp9uz | 12:52 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, definately doesn't have any handset packages in there :) | 12:52 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 12:53 |
| Stskeeps | http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/1.0.80.10.20100711.1/handset/images/meego-handset-armv7l-n900/meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.0.80.10.20100711.1.ks , take this, s/armv7l/armv5tel/g, remove @Nokia N900 support and the other one | 12:54 |
| Stskeeps | better base | 12:54 |
| rdb_ | Thanks : ) | 12:55 |
| Stskeeps | np | 12:55 |
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| rdb_ | Presumably I want to remove the Nokia proprietary repos as well? | 12:56 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 12:57 |
| Stskeeps | but none there, i believe | 12:57 |
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| FunkyPenguin | Termana, correct, that was exactly what I was asking - thanks | 13:17 |
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| Macer | so... | 15:08 |
| Macer | please tell me you guys are going to ditch maemo.org altogether :) | 15:09 |
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| lbt | Macer: of course | 16:37 |
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| DawnFoster | lbt: ping | 16:55 |
| Jaffa | Macer: "ditch maemo.org" in what way? (In what way is MeeGo *not* ditched from it right now?) | 16:57 |
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| GAN900 | Hehehe | 16:58 |
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| GAN900 | Jaffa, they took Stskeeps. | 16:59 |
| GAN900 | Also: Reggie and vBulletin. | 16:59 |
| Jaffa | Quick let's go before they give him back. | 16:59 |
| Jaffa | Oh no. He's not Rimmer. | 16:59 |
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| * Jaffa might play with an initial proof-of-concept of Hermes using Qt Mobility this weekend. | 17:03 | |
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| rradi | hello | 17:59 |
| rradi | i need help getting the Lenovo s10-3t touch screen (Cando) to run on MeeGo 1.0. it doesnt work out of the box because MeeGo 1.0 uses kernel 2.6.33, while kernel 2.6.35 understands the touch screen right away | 18:01 |
| rradi | and if i move to a higher MeeGo build (1.0.8), that has kernel 2.6.35~rc4, i am not able to install the broadcom wifi on the same S10-3t | 18:01 |
| rradi | can anyone help please? | 18:01 |
| ScottishDuck | broadcom-sta works with 2.6.35 | 18:02 |
| rradi | unfortunatly no, i tried that several times. wifi never worked...and there are several patches here and there (especially on ubuntu forums) but they never worked with me | 18:03 |
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| rradi | @ScottishDuck, have you tried this yourself? | 18:04 |
| ScottishDuck | yes | 18:04 |
| rradi | which meego build did you use? can you point me in the right direction please? i would really appreciate it | 18:04 |
| ScottishDuck | use this http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/net-wireless/broadcom-sta/files/broadcom-sta-5.60.48.36-linux-2.6.35.patch?revision=1.1 | 18:06 |
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| rradi | yes i tried this patch i compiled the new driver wl.ko but when i came to insmod, i got an error | 18:08 |
| rradi | error inserting wl.ko: -1 unknown symbol in module | 18:09 |
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| rradi | @ScottishDuck, did you get this problem before? | 18:12 |
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| rradi | i need help getting the Lenovo s10-3t touch screen (Cando) to run on MeeGo 1.0. it doesnt work out of the box because MeeGo 1.0 uses kernel 2.6.33, while kernel 2.6.35 understands the touch screen right away and if i move to a higher MeeGo build (1.0.8), that has kernel 2.6.35~rc4, i am not able to install the broadcom wifi on the same S10-3t can anyone help please? | 18:28 |
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| trip0 | rradi, does the broadcom driver not compile against 2.6.35? | 18:30 |
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| rradi | @trip0, unfortunatly not, | 18:32 |
| rradi | there is a patch that people posted on forums | 18:33 |
| rradi | i used that, and was able to compile it, but it doesnt load using insmod | 18:33 |
| rradi | i get an error message: nsmod: error inserting 'wl.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module | 18:33 |
| trip0 | hrm | 18:33 |
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| trip0 | rradi, are you sure you compiled it against the *35 headers? | 18:34 |
| rradi | hmm, i think i did | 18:35 |
| rradi | how should i have done the compilation against the *35 headers? | 18:35 |
| trip0 | if you make clean and make when you've booted the 35 kernel, it should compile against it | 18:36 |
| trip0 | iirc, the wl src just uses uname -r to find the header | 18:36 |
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| * trip0 compiled it last night actually | 18:36 | |
| trip0 | but i think i'm still on the 33 kernel | 18:36 |
| rradi | thats what i did | 18:36 |
| rradi | then i did compile against the *35 headers, thats why it compiled successfully | 18:37 |
| trip0 | and you did a make install? | 18:37 |
| rradi | yes | 18:37 |
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| trip0 | hmm | 18:37 |
| rradi | and got a new ko file | 18:37 |
| rradi | but insmod doesnt like it | 18:37 |
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| rradi | would you be able to give it a try? maybe there is something i am forgetting? | 18:38 |
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| trip0 | rradi, how did you get the 35 kernel? | 18:39 |
| trip0 | is it in the repos? | 18:39 |
| trip0 | if so, i can try tonight | 18:40 |
| rradi | yes | 18:40 |
| rradi | that would be great, sent you a private message..can you respond there? | 18:40 |
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| Jartza | http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/15/software-to-be-unpatentable-in-new-zealand-peter-jackson-said-t -- bit unrelated I know, but interesting | 18:58 |
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| blizzow | What's the status of Meego on the N900? Does it support the phone function yet? | 20:50 |
| Robot101 | heh heh heh heh | 20:50 |
| Robot101 | no | 20:50 |
| Robot101 | nor battery charging | 20:50 |
| w00t_ | it does support battery charging afaik | 20:50 |
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| w00t_ | I *think* phone function isn't too far off, think I saw ameya said something about getting tests for the modem working today | 20:51 |
| blizzow | bummer. Is meego just waiting for some proprietary driver from nokia to make that part happen? | 20:51 |
| w00t_ | blizzow: pop into #meego-arm and hang out there, there's some bits that are causing trouble (like wifi not working reliably with connman), perhaps they could use a hand in a few areas wrt testing and stuff | 20:51 |
| w00t_ | Stskeeps: ^^ | 20:51 |
| blizzow | thanks. | 20:52 |
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| Stskeeps | blizzow: we have battery charging, phone function is in progress, kernel drivers just got admitted, speech path open sourced, development happening in ofono.. | 20:54 |
| Stskeeps | battery charging, 3d chip and wifi/bt firmware is closed source | 20:54 |
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| * Stskeeps sends off small guide how to make a kernel package for meego | 20:58 | |
| w00t_ | Stskeeps: interesting question on the n8x0 adaptation thread you might want to look at when you've a min too | 21:01 |
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| Stskeeps | w00t_: yeah, i know | 21:06 |
| w00t_ | :-) | 21:06 |
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| Jaffa | Stskeeps: If you've got a kernel for the Joggler, how's the overall porting going? | 21:28 |
| Jaffa | Stskeeps: anything at a testing point yet? | 21:28 |
| Stskeeps | Jaffa: had a joggler kernel for ages, now i was just re-iterating to make it proper | 21:29 |
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| Stskeeps | i am technically waiting on EMGD release | 21:29 |
| Jaffa | Stskeeps: EMGD? | 21:29 |
| Stskeeps | IEGD successor | 21:30 |
| Stskeeps | i'm still not sure if it would work for GMA500, but :P | 21:30 |
| Jaffa | Are the various IEGD hacks which worked with Mer not viable? | 21:30 |
| Stskeeps | i tried out handset ux quite some time ago on joggler but there was a significant problem with textures | 21:31 |
| Stskeeps | and i think it was cos of the xorg version | 21:31 |
| Jaffa | Ah | 21:31 |
| Stskeeps | it's summer, so i am trying it out | 21:31 |
| TSCHAKeee | :) | 21:37 |
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| TSCHAKeee | how is EMGD compared to IEGD? Better? | 21:37 |
| Stskeeps | dunno | 21:37 |
| TSCHAKeee | oh sorry, i didn't read above. :) | 21:38 |
| TSCHAKeee | silly me | 21:38 |
| TSCHAKeee | :) | 21:38 |
| Stskeeps | i just hope it solves some problems | 21:39 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:39 |
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| TSCHAKeee | i really like my joggler, the graphics hardware is just a bit funky in spots | 21:39 |
| TSCHAKeee | I have a friend who's sending me a Cisco licensed OpenFrame 7 | 21:41 |
| TSCHAKeee | I forget what they called it | 21:41 |
| TSCHAKeee | will see how it turns out. | 21:41 |
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| lcuk | TSCHAKeee, guess how it works: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjSrwpbxyAM | 21:45 |
| TSCHAKeee | i would know for sure if you moved it OFF the paper | 21:46 |
| TSCHAKeee | first guess, camera | 21:46 |
| TSCHAKeee | but brilliant nonetheless, very nice. | 21:46 |
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| lcuk | TSCHAKeee, which camera? and yes it does work off the page but doesnt align correctly due to scaling etc | 21:47 |
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| TSCHAKeee | front camera. | 21:49 |
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| lcuk | indeedy, i should hide it more :P | 21:50 |
| TSCHAKeee | ;) | 21:50 |
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| lcuk | TSCHAKeee, i keep mistaking n900 for my desktop mouse ;) | 21:51 |
| TSCHAKeee | heheh | 21:51 |
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| Garolard | hi everyone! | 22:52 |
| Garolard | i come with a doubt about chromium in meego 1.0.1 | 22:52 |
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| Garolard | somebody knows about that? | 22:53 |
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| tybollt | heh http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODQxOA | 23:05 |
| tybollt | ooopsie thar intlers :) | 23:05 |
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