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| noname22__ | hello, does anyone know which improvements do meego have with respect to s60 | 03:06 |
| noname22__ | any references would be appraciated | 03:06 |
| trip0 | meego.com | 03:06 |
| asj | primarily: it's not s60 | 03:06 |
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| noname22__ | okay what is wrong with s60? | 03:07 |
| rohanpm | noname22__: from what perspective are you asking? | 03:08 |
| rohanpm | end-user or developer? | 03:09 |
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| rohanpm | never mind, I see you cross-posted... | 03:09 |
| noname22__ | ne architecture | 03:10 |
| noname22__ | new* | 03:10 |
| noname22__ | programming for example | 03:10 |
| noname22__ | is easier ? in s 40 they only provide java mid api which is not compatible with all phones etc. | 03:11 |
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| odin_ | lbt, X-Fade picked up the OBS tester list, some had already contacted so I guess things are in motion for them | 03:18 |
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| Black_Yuri | hi | 05:00 |
| Black_Yuri | all ded? | 05:01 |
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| copyleft | lbt: It's okay. Thanks :) | 05:34 |
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| * halton hello | 08:49 | |
| Stskeeps | hello there :) | 08:49 |
| Myrtti | hah. | 08:49 |
| Myrtti | remember I asked last night if the subpages are enabled in the wiki? well as someone noted at the mailing list, it's not | 08:49 |
| Stskeeps | i thought they were | 08:50 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900 | 08:50 |
| Stskeeps | spot the < ARM | 08:50 |
| Myrtti | ah, I was looking on my mobile phone browser. my bad | 08:51 |
| Myrtti | someone needs to do categorizing though | 08:51 |
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| Myrtti | oh crikey, I got up from bed too quick | 08:53 |
| Myrtti | head hums | 08:53 |
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| Myrtti | 'aaarrggghhh, Audible is having a sale :-( | 08:55 |
| pundiramit | hello.. I'm getting this error http://pastebin.ca/1900289 while building rootfs for BeagleBoard. I'm on ubuntu-9.10. Any clues? | 08:56 |
| Stskeeps | you'll want to use -f raw | 08:57 |
| Stskeeps | not --format=fs | 08:57 |
| pundiramit | thanks Stskeeps | 08:57 |
| pundiramit | Stskeeps: it failed again with same error i.e 'AttributeError: "LiveCDYum' object has no attribute 'arch'" | 09:02 |
| Stskeeps | pundiramit: you'll have less pain trying from a fedora VM :/ | 09:02 |
| Stskeeps | is this mic2 from git? | 09:02 |
| pundiramit | Stskeeps: why is the MIC2 keep taking "image_format=livecd" it should be taking raw I guess | 09:03 |
| pundiramit | yes its from git | 09:03 |
| pundiramit | i tried with all the recent checkouts i.e 0.17, 0.18, 0.19 but got same error | 09:03 |
| pundiramit | Stskeeps: you said fedora VM.. am I suppose to run all the instructions from a Scratchbox or Virtualbox like environment? I thought it will work like bitbake/openembedded recipes. | 09:05 |
| Stskeeps | no, fedora vm is just because we know mic2 performs there )P | 09:05 |
| Stskeeps | =P | 09:05 |
| Stskeeps | mic2 basically downloads rpms, extracts them, makes images | 09:06 |
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| Macer | HI! | 09:08 |
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| pundiramit | Stskeeps: ok that means downloading pre-compiled rpms for your ARCH and creating images.. but what if I want to CROSS_COMPILE any package, lets say custom kernel, on my host machine.. how will I do that? From where can I get the toolchain? Is it possible? | 09:10 |
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| Stskeeps | pundiramit: best way to do it is to set up your own OBS or look into the 'build' tool | 09:11 |
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| pundiramit | Stskeeps: cool OBS looks good.. surprisingly never heard of it before :(.. one final question before I go back and try it again, what do you recommend, OBS or MIC2 on fedora? | 09:15 |
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| Stskeeps | OBS is for building packages. mic2 is for generating images | 09:16 |
| Stskeeps | meego isn't built from source each time you build an image :) | 09:16 |
| timeless_mbp | Stskeeps: too bad | 09:17 |
| timeless_mbp | it could do wonders for making the image production time worse :) | 09:17 |
| pundiramit | Stskeeps: ohhh.. got it now.. thanks :) | 09:19 |
| Stskeeps | timeless_mbp: qt alone would be a bitch | 09:20 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:20 |
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| timeless_mbp | Stskeeps: in 1999 there was a time when i built one of Gtk or Qt every morning | 09:22 |
| timeless_mbp | around 4am | 09:22 |
| timeless_mbp | gtk was relatively cheap | 09:22 |
| timeless_mbp | Qt was *not* | 09:22 |
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| timeless_mbp | i gave up building Qt daily and cached it | 09:22 |
| timeless_mbp | in case people are wondering, my computer was a university machine w/ a 25mb homedir quota but lots of space in /tmp | 09:23 |
| timeless_mbp | (which was deleted every morning at 4am when the boxes rebooted) | 09:23 |
| timeless_mbp | so every day i'd download gecko and build it from scratch :) | 09:23 |
| timeless_mbp | actually that might have been 2000 | 09:24 |
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| Macer | timeless_mbp: kind of hurting there | 09:38 |
| Macer | heh | 09:38 |
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| timeless_mbp | Macer: it wasn't bad, i stayed up until 4, started a process, went to sleep | 09:42 |
| timeless_mbp | when i woke up, the build was done | 09:42 |
| timeless_mbp | (well, for the Xt, or Gtk case. for the Qt case, things sucked a lot more) | 09:42 |
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| ljp | well, building Qt builds more than just the Qt libraries | 09:46 |
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| HiLander25 | hello | 09:51 |
| * tripzero trolls | 09:52 | |
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| tripzero | speaking of trolls... | 09:54 |
| Macer | so. any timeline on when meego will be beta for n900? | 09:55 |
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| Macer | the vids look nice | 09:56 |
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| Macer | if it is anything like maemo with actual portrait mode then it is definately worthwhile | 09:56 |
| tripzero | MacDrunk, link? | 09:56 |
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| tripzero | Macer link? | 09:56 |
| * tripzero grumbles about tab-complete fail | 09:56 | |
| Macer | wouldnt still have it. just went on youtube and searched for meego on n900 | 09:57 |
| * tripzero searches | 09:57 | |
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| Macer | one has someone using the pre alpha ui :) | 09:57 |
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| Macer | it looked like it was getting somewhere | 09:57 |
| Macer | probably wont be usable until the n910 is out but we will see heh | 09:58 |
| Macer | hopefully they just dont abandon the n900 otherwise i am never buying another nokia ever :) | 09:58 |
| tripzero | lol | 09:59 |
| tripzero | don't expect miracles | 09:59 |
| tripzero | it's like still holding out that people will still make games for the ps2 | 10:00 |
| tripzero | nokia will come out with a better phone | 10:00 |
| tripzero | and it'll run meego better | 10:00 |
| tripzero | that's how businesses work | 10:00 |
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| tripzero | there's a really negative profit-to-effort ratio on porting new software to an old and rather obscure device | 10:02 |
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| tripzero | especially if you consider that they probably want to maximize their efforts making the next product awesome | 10:03 |
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| tripzero | but they did promise to keep maintaining and updating maemo | 10:04 |
| tripzero | and if they fix libmeegotouch on fremantle, then you can run meego apps too! | 10:04 |
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| tripzero | which is "good enough for me" :) | 10:05 |
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| sabreman | help | 10:53 |
| Stskeeps | sabreman: it's easier to ask a question first, - if you're in danger, i would call the authorities instead of asking on a IRC channel :) | 10:53 |
| sabreman | :D | 10:53 |
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| fabo | lbt: when MeeGo target will be available on community OBS ? | 10:59 |
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| lbt | fabo: I started the download on sunday morning... the meego repo appears to offer a blazingly slow 50kbs | 11:04 |
| lbt | and 16G.... | 11:04 |
| * fabo isn't suprised ... | 11:05 | |
| lbt | so despite having set aside all sunday to do it ... I'll have to look at that tonight | 11:05 |
| lbt | sorry | 11:05 |
| fabo | np | 11:05 |
| X-Fade | Hmm we might want to see if we can get an alternative way in then. | 11:05 |
| X-Fade | Because that is just bad. | 11:06 |
| lbt | X-Fade: yes... there's a kernel.org mirror | 11:06 |
| lbt | which is a little better | 11:06 |
| lbt | but also Nokia mirror this too | 11:06 |
| lbt | so I'd like to leech of theirs (or vice versa) | 11:06 |
| X-Fade | We should really get that repo on a proper CDN :) | 11:07 |
| lbt | you know stephano ? | 11:07 |
| X-Fade | Yes | 11:08 |
| lbt | add it to his todo list when he goes over | 11:08 |
| lbt | :D | 11:08 |
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| thiago | does the intel X driver support starting multiple X sessions? | 11:10 |
| * thiago is getting: (EE) intel(0): [drm] failed to set drm interface version. | 11:11 | |
| thiago | MeeGo 1.0.1 | 11:11 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 12:07 |
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| * thiago now running Plasma-netbook on MeeGo | 12:39 | |
| fcocuadrado | Hi, all! | 12:46 |
| fcocuadrado | I have my own OBS instance, now how can I add/mirror/clone MeeGo repo? | 12:46 |
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| Stskeeps | at 50kb/s, it seems like | 12:50 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:50 |
| X-Fade | Just mirrored from kernel.org at great speads. | 12:50 |
| X-Fade | *speeds | 12:50 |
| X-Fade | http://mirrors.kernel.org/meego/ | 12:51 |
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| fcocuadrado | BTW, http://wiki.meego.com/Build_Infrastructure/Sysadmin_Distro/OBS1.8_setup_openSUSE112 at cloning repositories indicates that I should execute: osc -A http://api.meego.com meta prj Trunk prj.txt but api.meego.com needs credentials that I haven't, so where can I register to? | 13:00 |
| Sage | Currently it is not possible to register to api.meego.com. | 13:01 |
| Sage | which is the meego OBS api url. | 13:01 |
| fcocuadrado | Sage: then, how can I clone meego repo? | 13:01 |
| fcocuadrado | using OBS, of course | 13:01 |
| Sage | Well, I'm not sure if you can currently do that with OBS. You can get the rpm package from daily repo though. | 13:02 |
| fcocuadrado | Sage: well, then how can I use an own OBS to build MeeGo? | 13:03 |
| X-Fade | fcocuadrado: We're working on cloning this way: http://wiki.maemo.org/OpenSuse_Build_Service/MeeGo_Setup | 13:04 |
| X-Fade | fcocuadrado: That is what we do for the community OBS atm. | 13:04 |
| fcocuadrado | X-Fade: then, I have to use this script | 13:05 |
| fcocuadrado | X-Fade: thanks | 13:05 |
| X-Fade | It is basically downloading the repo and importing it in your local obs instance. | 13:05 |
| copyleft | fcocuadrado: Hi | 13:06 |
| fcocuadrado | X-Fade: yes, I see it | 13:06 |
| X-Fade | That should work for now at least, but I agree it is not the friendliest way. | 13:07 |
| copyleft | fcocuadrado: currently I set -A to my local OBS and it works. | 13:07 |
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| fcocuadrado | copyleft: I don't know what you are saying | 13:07 |
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| copyleft | fcocuadrado: Yes like X-Fade says, clone the repository by http://wiki.maemo.org/OpenSuse_Build_Service/MeeGo_Setup first | 13:12 |
| fcocuadrado | ok | 13:12 |
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| copyleft | X-Fade: I'm still having the local build problem. Even using the community beta OBS. :( python-urlgrabber fails to get packages from the OBS api. It still got a HTTP auth error. | 13:15 |
| X-Fade | copyleft: We don't have everything imported yet. | 13:15 |
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| copyleft | X-Fade: by the browser, I can fetch a package from the api like https://apiurl/build/MeeGo:1.0:Core/standard/i586/_repository/acl | 13:17 |
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| copyleft | X-Fade: but on MeeGo 1.0 SDK, "osc build" command fails to do it. | 13:19 |
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| X-Fade | copyleft: Correct api url in osc config? | 13:20 |
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| copyleft | X-Fade: yes it's correct. (osc ls/ osc co get correct result). But pdb shows http 401 error when running urlgrabber. | 13:22 |
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| copyleft | X-Fade: Debugging for a few days :p I'm not a good python programmer. | 13:23 |
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| fcocuadrado | BTW, is there a guide to learn how to manage an OBS? | 13:27 |
| copyleft | The only difference I know now is , osc build is correct when running on python 2.5, but fails on python 2.6 | 13:27 |
| copyleft | Perhaps I can install python 2.5 into MeeGo SDK chroot to see if it works. | 13:28 |
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| copyleft | X-Fade: BTW, on the community OBS, it looks like the xen machine fails to boot. Would you please check it? http://pastebin.ca/1900376 | 13:47 |
| copyleft | X-Fade: Is it the correct place here to report it? :) | 13:47 |
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| X-Fade | copyleft: Hmm I have seen this before some time ago. But then went away again. | 13:49 |
| X-Fade | I wonder what happens there. | 13:49 |
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| X-Fade | copyleft: Does it happen again when you retrigger the build? | 13:50 |
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| copyleft | X-Fade: yes I retrigger it once. | 13:51 |
| copyleft | X-Fade: Let me try again. | 13:51 |
| X-Fade | copyleft: I'll monitor the livelog. | 13:52 |
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| copyleft | X-Fade: Thanks, building. | 13:53 |
| X-Fade | Ok, same issue. | 13:53 |
| X-Fade | copyleft: can you try again? | 13:54 |
| copyleft | X-Fade: It's kind of slow connect from here. :p Ok trigger again. | 13:55 |
| X-Fade | Hmm no luck. | 13:56 |
| X-Fade | Ok, will try to find out what is happening here. | 13:56 |
| copyleft | X-Fade: Thanks. I'm new to OBS. If I bring any trouble please just correct me :p | 13:57 |
| X-Fade | copyleft: No, this is not you :) | 13:57 |
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| skyscraper | hi! | 15:33 |
| skyscraper | i'm trying to build an meego-image for my n900 | 15:33 |
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| skyscraper | but... i've got the latest mic-image-creator from git... but it always says "mic-image-creator: error: no such option: --run-mode" - anyone a solution? | 15:34 |
| ameya | skyscraper: nice! | 15:34 |
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| ameya | ohh | 15:34 |
| ameya | I tried it yesterday for building beagle board image, and it worked without any problem | 15:34 |
| ameya | followed this wiki page: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Meego_on_Beagleboard_from_scratch | 15:35 |
| skyscraper | i've tried this: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=757 | 15:35 |
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| skyscraper | but mic-image-creator dont know the --run-mode and the --save-kernel parameter | 15:36 |
| skyscraper | and i had a bit problems installing python-cElementTree - because using xubuntu 10.04 - cant apt-get install python-celementtree | 15:38 |
| ameya | yes i also has the same problem for python-celementtree | 15:38 |
| skyscraper | i've installed python2.6 - and xubuntu says this installs python-celementtree, too | 15:38 |
| ameya | I directly installed it from: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14411913/python-celementtree_1.0.5-10_i386.deb | 15:38 |
| skyscraper | hm... i need x64 | 15:39 |
| skyscraper | http://altruistic.lbl.gov/mirrors/ubuntu/pool/universe/c/celementtree/python-celementtree-dbg_1.0.5-10_amd64.deb ?^ | 15:40 |
| skyscraper | oh http://altruistic.lbl.gov/mirrors/ubuntu/pool/universe/c/celementtree/python-celementtree_1.0.5-10_amd64.deb | 15:40 |
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| skyscraper | hm# | 15:42 |
| skyscraper | thats not the problem | 15:42 |
| skyscraper | rebuilded mic now... - but same error | 15:43 |
| skyscraper | loool | 15:44 |
| skyscraper | searched the history of this chan... | 15:45 |
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| skyscraper | "/usr/bin/python -t /usr/bin/mic-image-creator --run-mode=0 --cache=mycachedir --format=raw --arch=armv7l --save-kernel --config=meego-handset-armv7l-n900-nokia-closed-1.0.80.8.20100630.ks" -- worked for mee | 15:45 |
| skyscraper | so maybe... i can try meego on n900 in a few minutes :D | 15:46 |
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| ameya | skyscraper: if you are dealing with meego on n900 then I guess meego-arm chat room is better than meego | 15:50 |
| skyscraper | okay... dont know it before :D | 15:51 |
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| skyscraper | argh | 15:54 |
| skyscraper | is there a nokia-flasher3.5 for amd64? | 15:54 |
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| ameya | no idea, better check out in meego-arm room | 15:56 |
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| -bartol.freenode.net- [freenode-info] channel flooding and no channel staff around to help? Please check with freenode support: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp | 16:18 | |
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| simulacrum | Why Meego Project does not provide alternative downloads by .torrent ? The way to download Meego now is *amazingly SLOW* and unreliable; using BitTorrent protocol would be better for data integrity and speed | 16:34 |
| simulacrum | also please update the page for downloading Meego with Chrome browser (http://goo.gl/9uAp), it needs a MD5 sum: fields like the page without Chrome browser | 16:35 |
| simulacrum | *field | 16:35 |
| w00t_ | I'd suggest mailing meego-dev, IRC is a lot easier to not notice/remember things on | 16:36 |
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| TSCHAKeee | or better yet, | 16:37 |
| TSCHAKeee | just go ahead and DO IT. | 16:37 |
| TSCHAKeee | :P | 16:37 |
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| Macer | haha | 16:42 |
| Macer | can people seed the closed ed? | 16:43 |
| Stskeeps | can but takedown notices may appear? :P | 16:44 |
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| Termana | *cough* Tor *cough* | 16:47 |
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| Termana | Someone want to hand me some medicine I have a bad cough :P | 16:47 |
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| Guest21579 | I'm having difficulties with uxlaunch on an Arm v6 dev board. How are people launching their x servers in meego? | 17:44 |
| Stskeeps | all of us has uxlaunch problems atm | 17:45 |
| Stskeeps | at least handset people | 17:45 |
| ScottishDuck | uxlaunch is currently borked | 17:45 |
| ScottishDuck | wait for the fix to hit upstream | 17:45 |
| Guest21579 | Hi Stskeeps - thanks for your work on getting the armv6 going - I'm successfully using some elements of your n8x0 port on my build | 17:46 |
| Stskeeps | ok - armv5 is fine, so :P | 17:46 |
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| Guest21579 | What are you using for an x server if uxlaunch is out of action? | 17:47 |
| Stskeeps | it isn't an x-server | 17:48 |
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| Guest21579 | Is it not possible to get x windows running on handset builds atm then? | 17:50 |
| Stskeeps | it does actually start x-windows, just no processes | 17:50 |
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| TSCHAKeee | uxlaunch is a very thin forker of processes | 17:56 |
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| Guest21579 | Okay - basically I'm failing to start any form of x windows from run level 3. Has anyone managed this or do I need to wait till the uxlaunch fix come upstream? | 18:00 |
| Stskeeps | i'd wait a day or two, it should appear soon as it's a bit annoying for handset images :) | 18:00 |
| Guest21579 | Thanks | 18:01 |
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| g00fy | hi there folks _o/ | 18:07 |
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| CosmoHill | hello | 18:08 |
| g00fy | just have a question to a technical issue | 18:08 |
| g00fy | i am using a asus eeepc 100h | 18:08 |
| g00fy | *1000h | 18:08 |
| g00fy | and i am unable to use the internal bluetooth device | 18:08 |
| g00fy | in moblin everything was working fine. there was a switch in the bt manager to enable bluetooth | 18:09 |
| g00fy | but this switch is missing in meego | 18:09 |
| g00fy | i already mentioned this in the forums | 18:09 |
| g00fy | but this is about one month ago and nobody responded | 18:09 |
| g00fy | any ideas? | 18:10 |
| g00fy | i amjust asking before i open a new bug report ^^ | 18:10 |
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| g00fy | no one having an idea? | 18:26 |
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| CosmoHill | g00fy: sorry, I don't | 18:32 |
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| CosmoHill | kudos to nokia, I'm installing the PC suite and the installed GUI looks very nice | 18:32 |
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| CosmoHill | ...with the wind | 21:19 |
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| Myrtti | DawnFoster: poing | 21:21 |
| DawnFoster | hey Myrtti! | 21:21 |
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| CosmoHill | Myrtti: bi-directional ping? | 21:22 |
| Myrtti | DawnFoster: I saw this in twitter, thought of you, retweeted it but want to make sure you see it: http://is.gd/drX0J | 21:22 |
| Myrtti | geeky physics comparisons to real life are cool ♥ | 21:22 |
| lcuk | Myrtti, heh DawnFoster just got similar from twitter, i RTed manually and adder her nick ;) | 21:23 |
| lcuk | (for completely unrelated subject | 21:23 |
| PhonicUK | can anyone point me to the guide for dual-booting Meego on the N900? I can't find the wiki page :s | 21:23 |
| DawnFoster | sweet, thanks! I'm always up for geeky reading material :) | 21:24 |
| CosmoHill | PhonicUK: http://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2010/06/10/triple-boot-win7ubuntumee | 21:24 |
| CosmoHill | hope this helps | 21:24 |
| Myrtti | also, I'm about three hours in on that cro-magnon book and so far it seems interesting. Well worth the 5.95+VAT I paid for the audiobook | 21:24 |
| lcuk | PhonicUK, the guide specified allows you to flash to external mmc, there is no real dual booting just yet because, well its not in place yet | 21:25 |
| PhonicUK | Cosmo, thats for on x86 hardware | 21:25 |
| DawnFoster | Myrtti - nice. I was just about to ask if you liked it. | 21:25 |
| CosmoHill | oh sorry, I was thinking of the EeePC 900 | 21:25 |
| PhonicUK | lol | 21:25 |
| lcuk | CosmoHill, !!! nice, we can triple boot ubuntu and windows 7 on n900 now :p | 21:25 |
| PhonicUK | i saw a good guide recently | 21:25 |
| DawnFoster | I'm a huge fan of reading about archeaology, anthropology, early man, etc. | 21:25 |
| lcuk | actually we can, someone managed to start win7 | 21:25 |
| PhonicUK | went through the steps of preparing the MicroSD card etc | 21:25 |
| lcuk | i think it took 14 hours or something to boot | 21:25 |
| lcuk | but it ran | 21:26 |
| CosmoHill | lcuk: with magic and an elevated blood achohole content, you can do anything | 21:26 |
| lcuk | DawnFoster, thats a misconception | 21:26 |
| CosmoHill | s/an/a/ | 21:26 |
| infobot | CosmoHill meant: lcuk: with magic ad an elevated blood achohole content, you can do anything | 21:26 |
| lcuk | "early man never existed - we men like lie ins! | 21:26 |
| CosmoHill | well that didn't work | 21:26 |
| DawnFoster | If I was independently wealthy & didn't need to work, I'd go back & get a PhD in anthropology & spend all my time doing research | 21:26 |
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| Myrtti | DawnFoster: so am I :-) *sigh* still a bit bitter I didn't pass the entrance exam 11 years ago for general history | 21:27 |
| Myrtti | instead I became a paid geek | 21:27 |
| DawnFoster | well, at least the pay is better :) | 21:27 |
| CosmoHill | is there a way I can get a PhD from Computing BSc? | 21:27 |
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| Stskeeps | CosmoHill: don't bother, go into industry. want research experience? join a research project as a programmer while you study | 21:28 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:28 |
| PhonicUK | gaah i wanna use Meego :( | 21:29 |
| CosmoHill | but doctor sounds so much better when you're in a bar | 21:29 |
| Stskeeps | it's entirely possible (if drunk enough) to claim whatever | 21:29 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:29 |
| Myrtti | also, in a bar everyone else except oddballs are drunk and they don't give rats ass if you're Dalai Lama | 21:30 |
| * CosmoHill listens to a Podcast about Mozilla Firefox Moblie | 21:31 | |
| DawnFoster | CosmoHill: Get a good job at a company with tuition reimbursement and go back to school part time while they pay for it :) | 21:32 |
| * Stskeeps is still fairly happy he got turned down for phd studies admission | 21:32 | |
| DawnFoster | I got an MBA for free that way after my CS degree | 21:32 |
| Stskeeps | meant i had to rethink life direction and well, now i'm doing this :) | 21:32 |
| auke | Stskeeps: lol | 21:33 |
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| Stskeeps | which i'm inclined to think is more fun ;) | 21:33 |
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| CosmoHill | I'm like learning so I seem to have an advantage over some people | 21:33 |
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| CosmoHill | I swear some of my class mates are idiots who pay a lot of money for not turning up | 21:37 |
| lbt | PhonicUK: what's stopping you? | 21:39 |
| PhonicUK | not wanting to trash my Maemo install :P | 21:40 |
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| lbt | wuss :) | 21:40 |
| Stskeeps | our install is non-destructive | 21:40 |
| lbt | oh, wait.... no, that's sensible | 21:40 |
| PhonicUK | I really wanna just dual boot from my MicroSD | 21:41 |
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| PhonicUK | hell yeah, chicken noodles! | 21:45 |
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| X-Fade | PhonicUK: It is in the wiki page. Just use the flasher to upload a one time boot kernel. | 21:47 |
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| X-Fade | PhonicUK: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Releases/Daily and http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/MMC | 21:47 |
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| PhonicUK | doesn't a one-time boot kernel only let me boot once? | 21:47 |
| PhonicUK | i.e. have to keep redoing it each reboot? | 21:48 |
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| X-Fade | Yes. | 21:48 |
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| X-Fade | There is no working kernel that can be shared between the both of them atm. | 21:48 |
| PhonicUK | ah i see | 21:48 |
| PhonicUK | i miss Mer :( | 21:49 |
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| X-Fade | Afaik there will be something later when kexec is working. | 21:49 |
| PhonicUK | cool | 21:49 |
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| skyscraper | hm... Stskeeps , when will ux for n900 be fixed? | 21:50 |
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| Stskeeps | skyscraper: uxlaunch just made it into Trunk:Testing, so hopefully soon | 21:50 |
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| skyscraper | rebuilded my image a moment ago, but doesnt worked | 21:54 |
| Stskeeps | yes, things take time | 21:54 |
| auke | yup | 21:54 |
| * CosmoHill needs a new computer for building | 21:54 | |
| * lbt just bought a 6-core CPU | 21:54 | |
| auke | skyscraper: check your /etc/xdg/autostart files | 21:54 |
| auke | make sure *Show* fields use the right keys | 21:55 |
| auke | X-MEEGO-HS | 21:55 |
| auke | for handset | 21:55 |
| * auke should buy lunch | 21:55 | |
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| thiago_home | lbt: what are you going to use it for? | 21:59 |
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| lcuk | thiago_home, it was a ps3 :p | 21:59 |
| CosmoHill | thiago_home: PC World say it's the minimum spec for MS word and facebook | 21:59 |
| odin_ | lbt, nice, which one ? | 21:59 |
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| thiago_home | CosmoHill: hex-core 12-thread with 8 GB? | 22:02 |
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| CosmoHill | that would get you word, facebook and email | 22:02 |
| CosmoHill | maybe youtube too | 22:02 |
| thiago_home | I see | 22:02 |
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| CosmoHill | I should mention PC World in the UK is a computer shop | 22:02 |
| w00t_ | thiago_home: you give me hardware envy fyi | 22:02 |
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| thiago_home | w00t_: Intel sent us a beefy machine and I have got to put it to good use | 22:03 |
| odin_ | as long as flash player runs smooth :) it's worth it | 22:03 |
| CosmoHill | I can watch youtube on my powerbook and do the ironing | 22:03 |
| w00t_ | thiago_home: you can put it to better use -- by sending it to me | 22:03 |
| w00t_ | :-) | 22:04 |
| thiago_home | I've been playing with the other toy they sent us | 22:04 |
| thiago_home | a netbook (the lenovo ideapad) | 22:04 |
| CosmoHill | ooo | 22:04 |
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| w00t_ | yum | 22:04 |
| thiago_home | unfortunately it's a broadcom wireless, so I need to rebuild the driver after every upgrade | 22:04 |
| CosmoHill | no w00t_, zypper | 22:05 |
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| thiago_home | I've been running plasma-netbook since this morning and it works mostly fine | 22:05 |
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| thiago_home | Qt stutters sometimes though (qmlviewer's fps counter shows it all over the place) | 22:05 |
| CosmoHill | cos that be a power saving issue? | 22:05 |
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| CosmoHill | like if windows 7 is on the battery and power saving mode the video will stutter | 22:06 |
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| thiago_home | I don't think so | 22:06 |
| thiago_home | I think our OpenGL 1.x support is broken | 22:06 |
| w00t_ | it is pretty much deprecated, isn't it? | 22:07 |
| thiago_home | yeah, except that's what the Atoms have | 22:07 |
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| thiago_home | GMA3150 | 22:07 |
| thiago_home | the weird thing is that there's some conflicting information | 22:08 |
| thiago_home | I've seen somewhere said that it has OpenGL 2 on Linux... | 22:09 |
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| lpotter | hmm | 22:14 |
| thiago_home | moin lorn | 22:14 |
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| lpotter | have them send us one of those U1's | 22:14 |
| lpotter | planning on committing connman plugin to 4.7 today, if the staging is clear | 22:15 |
| thiago_home | which staging? | 22:16 |
| lpotter | oslo-1 | 22:16 |
| thiago_home | o-s-1 was broken last I checked | 22:16 |
| lpotter | ya, it was yesterday | 22:16 |
| thiago_home | two failures in tst_qdir (my fault) and two new ones | 22:16 |
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| lpotter | I just need something with connman and 3g to test it | 22:18 |
| thiago_home | well, gareth has two Aavas | 22:18 |
| thiago_home | get a microSD, download the MeeGo handset 1.0.80 release, dd the image onto the SD and boot the phone | 22:18 |
| thiago_home | and pray it boots | 22:19 |
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| lpotter | as those are in short supply, I was hoping the n900 would be working enough.. heh. | 22:19 |
| thiago_home | the netbooks don't have 3G | 22:19 |
| lpotter | I know, the netbooks are just cool | 22:20 |
| thiago_home | but connman might be able to control wireless | 22:20 |
| thiago_home | the lenovo I got because of the touchscreen | 22:20 |
| lpotter | its the 3g stuff I havent tested | 22:20 |
| thiago_home | then the netbook won't do you much good | 22:21 |
| thiago_home | check if you can get one nokia booklet 3g though | 22:22 |
| thiago_home | would be nice to have meego running on that | 22:22 |
| lpotter | good point | 22:22 |
| lpotter | I suppose modem drivers might be an issue on that though | 22:23 |
| thiago_home | I don't know... | 22:23 |
| thiago_home | you can probably order a USB 3G modem though | 22:23 |
| thiago_home | Huawei sells them like water in Brazil | 22:24 |
| CosmoHill | lpotter: what country are you in? | 22:24 |
| lpotter | I live in crickeymateland | 22:25 |
| thiago_home | I don't think that conveys useful information :-) | 22:26 |
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| lpotter | ok.. edgeoftheoutback | 22:27 |
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| w00t_ | thiago_home: crikeyland does convey useful information | 22:31 |
| w00t_ | to those who speak the same lingo | 22:31 |
| w00t_ | ;) | 22:31 |
| CosmoHill | I'll put down "far far away" | 22:31 |
| CosmoHill | Vodafone do 3G iirc | 22:31 |
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| lpotter | thiago_home: http://openattitude.com/2010/01/29/nokias-booklet-3g-hates-linux/ | 22:39 |
| thiago_home | I've seen it running | 22:39 |
| thiago_home | wasn't fine, but was running | 22:39 |
| lbt | no meeting tonight? | 22:40 |
| lpotter | lbt: postponed till August due to holiday season up north | 22:40 |
| Stskeeps | should i be worried i had forgotten about TSG meetings for a moment there? :P | 22:44 |
| PhonicUK | GMAxxx = Devil spawn | 22:44 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: they add such value... | 22:45 |
| RST38h | Imagetech's | 22:45 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: http://wiki.meego.com/BOSS/Presentation | 22:51 |
| Stskeeps | NokiaOBS? | 22:51 |
| lbt | kinda our team name ... | 22:52 |
| lbt | I suggested "Bob" | 22:52 |
| Stskeeps | Redshirts? | 22:52 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 22:52 |
| lbt | I hope not ;) | 22:52 |
| Myrtti | hobnobs | 22:53 |
| lbt | McVities | 22:53 |
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| lbt | X-Fade: \o/ | 23:07 |
| lbt | new prjconf ... needs to preinstall libblkid in VMs | 23:08 |
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| lbt | also something spooky wrt lua ... it preinstall's liblua which isn't in the repo mirror AFAICS | 23:08 |
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| lbt | X-Fade: and root = "/dev/hda1 rw" not root = "/dev/hda1 ro" in the xen.conf | 23:12 |
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| b-man17 | spam | 23:14 |
| b-man17 | just got tricked by MohammadAG into using /wallchan xD | 23:15 |
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| CosmoHill | what's /wallchan ? | 23:31 |
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| lbt | Community OBS is actually working now... | 23:35 |
| CosmoHill | ow | 23:35 |
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