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CosmoHill | how big is your chair if you can fall down it? | 00:13 |
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auke | could be tiny | 00:14 |
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Stskeeps | well, at least we got confirmed that security is being taken seriously :) | 00:17 |
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CosmoHill | well if you got in there and took the chair... | 00:18 |
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CosmoHill | you know what I said about mentors in the meeting? | 00:28 |
CosmoHill | at the moment there is someone in the channel who's asking lots of questions and explaining what he's doing / done very badly | 00:29 |
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CosmoHill | it's like the first half of the conversation has been skipped | 00:29 |
CosmoHill | so most of the mentors / helpers are staying quiet and letting unspecting vitciums deal with him | 00:30 |
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DawnFoster | did you guys see that we just released an update to the netbook release: http://meego.com/community/blogs/dawnfoster/2010/meego-1.0-update-netbooks | 01:25 |
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thiago_home | now we know :-) | 01:28 |
vgrade | DawnFoster, does that include the EMGD graphics driver update? | 01:28 |
DawnFoster | the blog post links to the full list of bugs | 01:29 |
vgrade | thanks | 01:29 |
DawnFoster | we fixed 100+ bugs (I don't have them all memorized) :) | 01:29 |
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trem | nite all, sweet dreams | 01:30 |
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lcuk | DawnFoster, nice thing to do is point at the meego bugtracker with a search filter! | 01:31 |
lcuk | bugzille does charts and stuff too ;) | 01:31 |
lcuk | a | 01:31 |
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DawnFoster | luckily, I'm not in charge of any of that :) I just wrote it up into a nice blog post. | 01:35 |
DawnFoster | however, having the text in a web page is better for searching | 01:35 |
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DawnFoster | the text was generated out of bugzilla, I think | 01:36 |
DawnFoster | and then cleaned up for formatting | 01:36 |
lcuk | heh | 01:36 |
lcuk | theres a lot of bugfixes in your 'zilla | 01:36 |
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ljp | hmmmm i think i need a netbook with 3g | 01:39 |
CosmoHill | ljp: it better be internal 3g | 01:40 |
ljp | ya that too | 01:41 |
CosmoHill | I hate that in the UK you can get a free netbook with a contract | 01:41 |
CosmoHill | and it's on bloody dongle | 01:41 |
CosmoHill | that's what you want one a computer you take around and throw in your bag | 01:41 |
CosmoHill | something that snaps off | 01:41 |
ljp | i get lots of free stuff with my contract, but I need to trade emacs time to get them :) | 01:42 |
CosmoHill | by emacs you mean the editor? | 01:43 |
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ljp | indeed | 01:43 |
asj | when I got me last laptop I made the mistake of not getting the $50 3g modem option, oh well :( | 01:50 |
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CosmoHill | my first laptop is a 2005 powerbook that I'm using now | 01:55 |
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Stskeeps | DawnFoster: at least the bugs i tried in the meego-security@ mailings today was closed, but i can to some extent understand why (for a slow period of time), depending on what policies security people might have | 02:12 |
DawnFoster | I've been talking to people about this. | 02:12 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 02:12 |
Stskeeps | just noticed your post | 02:13 |
DawnFoster | the only reason that we should have them private is if we received the info under embargo | 02:13 |
DawnFoster | the flash issue, for example, has been a known issue for a month | 02:13 |
Stskeeps | not complaining, just for good measure :) without a upgrade path, things like that could be troublesome if there's exploit info etc | 02:13 |
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DawnFoster | I need to have someone scrub bugzilla to fix it | 02:14 |
CosmoHill | cyas | 02:18 |
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Stskeeps | if anyone wants to participate in making motivational (not demotivational) posters to encourage people in offices or around the world to join the open and upbeat MeeGo atmosphere, reasons and benefits for working in the open in the project, - http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=808 | 03:31 |
odin_ | up late today? | 03:35 |
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Stskeeps | a tad.. | 03:35 |
Stskeeps | :P | 03:35 |
Termana | Are we discouraged from making demotivational posters? | 03:35 |
Termana | :P | 03:35 |
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Stskeeps | defeats the purpose :) | 03:38 |
odin_ | all publicity is good publicity ? | 03:39 |
Stskeeps | "WE'RE YOUR POTENTIAL CONTRIBUTORS, WE BITE, ARGUE AND QUESTION YOUR EVERY MOVE"? ;) | 03:39 |
Stskeeps | (that'd be demotivational) | 03:40 |
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GAN900 | Ha | 03:46 |
GAN900 | What if we're already all out? :P | 03:46 |
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TSCHAKeee | Stskeeps: aww, your post was a good one. ;) | 03:47 |
TSCHAKeee | unfortunately your demotivational jab is very close to home :P | 03:47 |
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Stskeeps | mutual respect is needed, agreed | 03:49 |
GAN900 | Well, that's one of the prices of working in the open | 03:49 |
GAN900 | It aint free. | 03:50 |
Stskeeps | it isn't, but the benefit should be higher than cost | 03:50 |
Stskeeps | as well as a recruiting base | 03:51 |
asj | there seem to be other projects though that seem more cooperative | 03:51 |
Termana | Well actually I was thinking more of a demotivational poster that said: | 03:51 |
Termana | MEEGO ON N900 | 03:51 |
Termana | Still uses BME. | 03:51 |
Stskeeps | oi | 03:51 |
Stskeeps | :P | 03:51 |
Termana | :P | 03:51 |
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TSCHAKeee | haaa | 03:55 |
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GAN900 | Unfortunate to see Google TV getting the early press. | 04:31 |
TSCHAKeee | yeah, you're telling me | 04:35 |
TSCHAKeee | oh well | 04:35 |
TSCHAKeee | i gave up hoping that my project would ever get any big publicity | 04:35 |
GAN900 | TSCHAKeee, too much between it and normal people, unfortunately. | 04:37 |
GAN900 | Stuff like that has to be braindead easy | 04:37 |
GAN900 | and preferably sold bundled with lots of Sony/Panasonic/Samsung/whatever stuff at BestBuy | 04:38 |
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TSCHAKeee | well, i am just glad it exists... i've allocated at least the next 20 years of my life to it...just to see how far I can take it. | 04:38 |
GAN900 | I still need to try to set up a proper integrated media system here. | 04:38 |
GAN900 | PS3 + EyeConnect is just enough to pass my laziness threshold. :P | 04:39 |
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TSCHAKeee | if you follow some basic guidelines, things do just work with our system... :) | 04:39 |
GAN900 | By "just work" I mean | 04:39 |
GAN900 | Don't have to dick around installing Linux and/or anything else | 04:39 |
TSCHAKeee | http://www.dianemo.co.uk/ | 04:40 |
TSCHAKeee | but whatever | 04:40 |
TSCHAKeee | i can see where this conversation is going | 04:40 |
TSCHAKeee | and i'm going to drop it now | 04:40 |
TSCHAKeee | and save you the grace of being a dick. | 04:40 |
TSCHAKeee | ;) | 04:40 |
GAN900 | TSCHAKeee, don't get me wrong | 04:40 |
GAN900 | I'm not blaming you or accusing you of anything | 04:41 |
GAN900 | But the reality is that consumers are SUPER LAZY | 04:41 |
TSCHAKeee | I know | 04:41 |
TSCHAKeee | the system we have now is not the endgame | 04:41 |
TSCHAKeee | at all | 04:41 |
GAN900 | and if nobody's shouting it in your face 24/7 they wont notice | 04:41 |
TSCHAKeee | it's merely an intermediate step, while we research options | 04:41 |
GAN900 | even if they are, if it takes any effort at all, they wont bother. | 04:42 |
TSCHAKeee | my goal is to make a whole family of parts that snap together like legos | 04:42 |
TSCHAKeee | that just work | 04:42 |
TSCHAKeee | but i know it will take me the next decade to realize it. | 04:42 |
TSCHAKeee | i just work on it bit by bit. | 04:42 |
GAN900 | You do what you can and I certainly appreciate it. :) | 04:43 |
GAN900 | It's slow going, though. | 04:43 |
TSCHAKeee | but the technology is amazing in and of itself.. so it's out there for the brave souls who want it. ;) | 04:43 |
TSCHAKeee | thanks. | 04:43 |
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GAN900 | I just wish open source didn't have so many hurdles in its way (both self-set and otherwise) and I wish it had some advocates who were in it for better reasons. | 04:44 |
TSCHAKeee | me too. | 04:45 |
GAN900 | Google, for instance, is in it too collect information on you for Minority Report-advertising. | 04:45 |
TSCHAKeee | but in the mean time, i'll just keep going | 04:45 |
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GAN900 | I wonder how long MeeGo's interactive TV big reveal will take. . . . | 04:46 |
TSCHAKeee | well, if i can get some things figured out | 04:46 |
TSCHAKeee | maybe i could force that hand | 04:47 |
TSCHAKeee | i dunno, i still have several major pieces of code to rewrite to get them under GPL... | 04:47 |
TSCHAKeee | but thiago had the right idea | 04:47 |
TSCHAKeee | if you want to counter-act the big reveal | 04:48 |
TSCHAKeee | preempt it with a community replacement | 04:48 |
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Stskeeps | looking at meegotouch-theme-meego.. MTF really looks flexible in terms of creating things | 04:49 |
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Stskeeps | http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-handset-ux/meegotouch-theme-meego/blobs/master/meego/meegotouch/duihome/style/duihome.css being desktop CSS for instance | 04:50 |
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luke-jr | Stskeeps: what does MeeGo use for a WM? | 05:38 |
luke-jr | in particular, is it GTK-free? | 05:39 |
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TSCHAK | luke-jr, depends on the UX | 05:46 |
TSCHAK | luke-jr, and why would being GTK-free matter? | 05:46 |
TSCHAK | are you a bigot? | 05:46 |
odin_ | I'm not a GTK fan either, down with the GIMP | 05:47 |
luke-jr | TSCHAK: sure, with regard to GTK, I guess I'm a bigot | 05:47 |
TSCHAK | that's sad. | 05:48 |
luke-jr | handheld devices only have so much RAM. I'm not interested in wasting it on 2 implementations of the same crap | 05:48 |
luke-jr | and Qt is clearly superior to GTK | 05:48 |
TSCHAK | opinion, in my opinion it depends on the use case | 05:48 |
TSCHAK | but whatever | 05:48 |
TSCHAK | you can keep your uninformed view | 05:48 |
TSCHAK | ;) | 05:48 |
luke-jr | GTK's only reason for existence is that Qt was once non-free | 05:48 |
luke-jr | Qt is free now; GTK has no purpose | 05:49 |
TSCHAK | uh | 05:49 |
TSCHAK | wow | 05:49 |
TSCHAK | you really are an idiot, | 05:49 |
TSCHAK | if i may correct you | 05:49 |
TSCHAK | GTK+'s existance predates Qt | 05:49 |
luke-jr | lol | 05:49 |
odin_ | no GTKs existence was GIMP and GNOME's existence was because Qt was once non-free | 05:49 |
TSCHAK | GTK+ was written because Spencer didn't like Motif. | 05:49 |
TSCHAK | I happen to know this first hand. | 05:50 |
asj | TSCHAK: no one like motif | 05:50 |
odin_ | hey I don't like Motif too, and you can know that first hand as well | 05:50 |
odin_ | Motif+CDE is K00l | 05:50 |
luke-jr | GTK+ -- 1997 | 05:50 |
* TSCHAK laughs | 05:50 | |
luke-jr | Qt -- 1991 | 05:50 |
* TSCHAK facepalms | 05:51 | |
* TSCHAK shakes head. | 05:51 | |
TSCHAK | one would think that programmers would outgrow this stupid one dimensional attachment to a toolkit or a language | 05:51 |
TSCHAK | oh well. | 05:51 |
TSCHAK | live in your own little world | 05:51 |
TSCHAK | fine by me. | 05:51 |
odin_ | well Qt is not great either and X11 is not great either, but it will all go for now | 05:52 |
odin_ | s/go/do/ | 05:52 |
infobot | odin_ meant: well Qt is not great either and X11 is not great either, but it will all do for now | 05:52 |
* luke-jr finds it sadly humourous how TSCHAK resorts to ad hominem upon being proven wrong | 05:52 | |
TSCHAK | you said that GTK+ was written in response to Qt... | 05:52 |
luke-jr | and you said GTK+ predates Qt | 05:53 |
TSCHAK | you are correct that Qt predates GTK+, my bad | 05:53 |
TSCHAK | but | 05:53 |
TSCHAK | your statement that GTK+ was designed because Qt wasn't free, isn't true. | 05:53 |
TSCHAK | but anyway. | 05:53 |
luke-jr | then why wasn't GIMP based on Qt? ;) | 05:53 |
TSCHAK | you have the air of a kid. | 05:53 |
odin_ | no he confused GNOME v KDE on the non-free issue | 05:53 |
TSCHAK | luke-jr, contrary to popular belief, the world doesn't revolve around one toolkit or language | 05:54 |
luke-jr | nope, they compete. | 05:54 |
TSCHAK | GIMP wasn't based around Qt because orignally, GIMP was written in MOTIF | 05:54 |
TSCHAK | C, with Motif and Xt calls | 05:54 |
luke-jr | bad logic | 05:54 |
odin_ | and even Motif looked great next to Xaw | 05:54 |
TSCHAK | this was the case for GIMP, from its original release, through 0.7 | 05:54 |
luke-jr | so why not switch to Qt? why invent a new toolkit? | 05:55 |
asj | odin_: well...looks weren't motif's problems | 05:55 |
TSCHAK | luke-jr, it wasn't written in C++. | 05:55 |
luke-jr | irrelevant | 05:55 |
TSCHAK | wow. | 05:55 |
TSCHAK | really? | 05:55 |
TSCHAK | pray tell | 05:55 |
chriadam | no, please don't. | 05:56 |
TSCHAK | expound upon us with your vast array of knowledge | 05:56 |
TSCHAK | why is this irrelevant? | 05:56 |
TSCHAK | see, I know the real answer | 05:56 |
ljp | off topic | 05:56 |
TSCHAK | because I was around during that time period | 05:56 |
ljp | please go to #flame-wars | 05:56 |
odin_ | I reallt like WPF that is something MS got right, not sure on XBAM tho or SL, but WPF for UI is a major step in the right direction | 05:57 |
TSCHAK | GTK+ was designed to be an improvement over MOTIF..because especially at this time, Motif was not freely available, and LessTif was still very much in development. | 05:57 |
odin_ | *XBAP | 05:57 |
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luke-jr | the difference between "because Qt was non-free" and "because Motif was non-free" is quite trivial; but as ljp and chriadam said, this is off-topic, so stfu and let me stick to Qt | 05:58 |
luke-jr | ljp: happen to know the answer to my original question? | 05:59 |
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luke-jr | is MeeGo's WM GTK-free? | 05:59 |
TSCHAK | again, DEPENDS ON THE BLOODY UX. | 05:59 |
odin_ | anyone know how to converts a vmlinuz into a zImage ? i.e. remove bootsect.o...piggy.o and get back the ELF kernel image | 06:00 |
TSCHAK | Netbook UX uses Mutter | 06:00 |
TSCHAK | Handset UX uses mcompositor+libmeegotouch | 06:00 |
TSCHAK | of course | 06:00 |
TSCHAK | you could have figured that out, with a little trip through the wiki. | 06:00 |
odin_ | luke-jr, GTK+ is available to use but the Nokia system will be almost exclusively Qt based | 06:00 |
TSCHAK | and yes, in case you can't put 2+2 together | 06:00 |
TSCHAK | mcompositor+libmeegotouch is based on Qt. | 06:00 |
* luke-jr looked at MeeGo's site for an answer before asking on IRC | 06:00 | |
TSCHAK | I leave it to you and your capable hands to figure out how to use it. | 06:01 |
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luke-jr | Curiously, Google finds nothing useful on mcompositor at all, let alone a wiki page for it | 06:04 |
chriadam | meegotouch-compositor | 06:04 |
TSCHAKeee | changed names again | 06:05 |
TSCHAKeee | heh | 06:05 |
asj | chriadam: you took all the fun out of this :( this was the most #meego traffic I've seen in weeks. luke-jr meets #meego ;) | 06:05 |
luke-jr | asj: I've been in here for weeks | 06:05 |
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gnomon | I suspect I'm poking a hornet's nest, but here goes: any plans for Poulsbo support? | 06:38 |
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TSCHAKeee | gnomon: go for it. ;) | 06:42 |
gnomon | TSCHAKeee, I would love to, but throwing myself simultaneously at the tasks of reverse engineering img-tec's hardware and fending off their lawyers isn't really what I had in mind. | 06:46 |
TSCHAKeee | hahaha i understand | 06:47 |
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FunkyPenguin | what's the correct argument for libsocialweb to use NetworkManager instead of conman? | 11:35 |
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Stskeeps | could you rephrase that question a bit? | 11:35 |
FunkyPenguin | I currently have --with-online=NetworkManager as part of configure, but it bombs out saying it cant work out how to get online | 11:36 |
Stskeeps | ah | 11:36 |
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MasterMatan_ | `utf | 12:04 |
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robster | FunkyPenguin: well you're capitalising it wrongly | 12:10 |
robster | FunkyPenguin: the configure.ac shows that's it's --with-online=networkmanager | 12:10 |
FunkyPenguin | robster, yup caught that | 12:10 |
FunkyPenguin | ah i worked it out - i missed the devel package out :/ | 12:11 |
FunkyPenguin | thanks though | 12:11 |
robster | yes you'll need libnm-glib | 12:11 |
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FunkyPenguin | oh arse, all the moblin* packages have been renamed to meego* | 12:21 |
FunkyPenguin | makes sense but... | 12:21 |
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meegodotby | hi all | 13:10 |
meegodotby | Is there a hal package in Meego? | 13:12 |
Stskeeps | no HAL in meego | 13:12 |
meegodotby | Stskeeps :Â thanks | 13:13 |
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koupsaa | hello all | 13:27 |
X-Fade | Hmm mic fresh from git is showing a wrong meego url. | 13:43 |
X-Fade | mic --help |tail -n 1 | 13:43 |
X-Fade | * http://www.meego.org/ | 13:43 |
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FunkyPenguin | is the networks panel new? | 13:47 |
miig | for me - no | 13:48 |
* FunkyPenguin didnt remember seeing it when 1.0 was released in may | 13:49 | |
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miig | i installed update 1.0.1, when click web-pan - have crash message about web-panel | 13:49 |
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koupsaa | reboot test upgrade | 14:01 |
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h00k | So, I saw an email about a large update, is that something that has hit the repo? I just installed again last night from alpha-testing Ubuntu 10.10 | 14:22 |
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h00k | Also, I'm logged into Last.FM, gave it the permissions it needs, but I can't play my lastfm content through Banshee | 14:27 |
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h00k | It's telling me "This station is only available to subscribers" so it's like I'm not logged in | 14:29 |
h00k | but indeed it says i am | 14:29 |
h00k | Any protips? | 14:30 |
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PolarFox | subscribers, as in not for people with free accounts? | 14:35 |
h00k | I don't know, actually. | 14:36 |
h00k | I suppose I could grab Pro status again and see if that'll help | 14:37 |
h00k | I'm able to play them in Rhythmbox, however | 14:37 |
h00k | on my Ubuntu install, without a Pro account | 14:37 |
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h00k | in a similar fashion (create a new Similar station with an artist's name, it populates a playlist, and hit 'play') | 14:42 |
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meegodotby | and another | 14:47 |
meegodotby | Is there a any devicekit packages in Meego? | 14:48 |
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Stskeeps | meegodotby: yes | 14:54 |
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FunkyPenguin | anyone able to help out with a packaging error for -panel-web please? http://pastie.org/1035800 | 15:12 |
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fabo | FunkyPenguin: it doesn't seems like a packaging error | 15:28 |
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FunkyPenguin | fabo, not entirely but hopefully someone has encountered/fixed it before | 15:31 |
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jeremiah | Is it correct to assume that the MeeGo version number is in Major.minor.revision format? | 15:42 |
jeremiah | I.e. 1.0.1 | 15:42 |
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slaine | jeremiah: don't think so | 15:53 |
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robster | FunkyPenguin: are you using *exactly* the same chromium as meego shipped with? | 16:04 |
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krypton | A variant of nascent version of MeeGo running on a Lenovo Pad powered by Atom. This was when MeeGo did not have polished GUI | 16:07 |
krypton | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6muBs8LUlYU | 16:07 |
robster | FunkyPenguin: also, have you checked that you can legally distribute the assets: http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-netbook-ux/mutter-meego/blobs/meego-1.0/data/theme/LICENSE ? | 16:07 |
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FunkyPenguin | robster, im using a slightly newer release iirc | 16:09 |
FunkyPenguin | so i need to make sure im compliant first? | 16:09 |
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robster | FunkyPenguin: i'm not a lawyer, i'm just pointing out that the mutter-moblin and moblin-icon-theme for meego 1.0 and above have that license for the assets | 16:10 |
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Stskeeps | worth asking on meego-dev | 16:11 |
FunkyPenguin | robster, the license hasnt changed from moblin 2.1 has it? | 16:11 |
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Stskeeps | i think the real bugger is when a device is made with it, but cant be sure | 16:11 |
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robster | FunkyPenguin: that license is from meego 1.0 forward, for moblin 2.1 the assets were under the same license as the code, LGPLv2.1 | 16:12 |
FunkyPenguin | i know i was ok for that - i had to go through novell legal to get the packages in distro | 16:12 |
FunkyPenguin | ah bugger | 16:12 |
robster | FunkyPenguin: so yes, this is a change. | 16:12 |
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FunkyPenguin | ok, i'll get someone to check for me that understands the mumbojumbo | 16:13 |
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FunkyPenguin | robster, am i restricted to *exactly* the same chromium release as you guys? it's a pita from a security standpoint if i am | 16:35 |
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slaine | robster: getting a lot of crashes with moblin-pabel-web since the upgrade last night | 16:44 |
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robster | slaine: open bug reports please | 16:51 |
slaine | autoreported the crashes at least | 16:51 |
robster | slaine: oh, that'll probably get ignored | 16:53 |
robster | slaine: that tool is really in beta | 16:53 |
slaine | yeah, figured, reporting via bugzilal too | 16:53 |
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anaZ | holy f | 17:26 |
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lbt | holy g | 17:32 |
Stskeeps | holy meego | 17:33 |
w00t_ | anaZ: holy fremantle? | 17:34 |
w00t_ | :-P | 17:34 |
anaZ | holy falafel | 17:34 |
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Stskeeps | is it friday yet? | 17:36 |
w00t_ | http://isitfridayyet.org/ | 17:36 |
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chem|st | w00t_: who the hell is paying 12eur a year for that domain? | 18:03 |
w00t_ | no clue | 18:04 |
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chem|st | "beta" | 18:04 |
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Jef91 | anyone know how functional meego currently is on the n900? | 21:35 |
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GAN900 | Jef91, not very | 21:36 |
CosmoHill | you can't make phone calls | 21:36 |
CosmoHill | or charge the battery | 21:36 |
Jef91 | LOL good to know. Can it be dual booted with Maemo? | 21:36 |
GAN900 | Yes | 21:37 |
GAN900 | Although you'll have to change kernels each time | 21:38 |
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Jef91 | Got a link to a HOWTO offhand? GAN900? | 21:38 |
GAN900 | Not handy | 21:38 |
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Jef91 | oh, and does wifi at least work on the n900 with meego? | 21:38 |
RST38h | no | 21:39 |
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RST38h | not right now anyway | 21:39 |
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Jef91 | ahh alrighty then. It's kinda sad that the Andriod port currently has more functions working on the n900 than meego does when Meego is suppose to be half based off of maemo... | 21:40 |
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CosmoHill | does meego have ntp? | 21:52 |
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lbt | CosmoHill: http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/1.0.80/1.0.80.9.20100706.1/core/repos/source/ | 22:23 |
CosmoHill | thanks | 22:23 |
lbt | (yes) | 22:23 |
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CosmoHill | lots of patches | 22:24 |
CosmoHill | non of which I've used in my RPM :/ | 22:24 |
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ScottishDuck | How do you get the n900 .ks to draw from 1.0.80.9 instead of 80.8? | 22:33 |
ScottishDuck | do you simply change the name of the .ks? | 22:33 |
CosmoHill | change the name? | 22:33 |
ScottishDuck | ah | 22:33 |
CosmoHill | it would be in the ks file somewhere | 22:33 |
ScottishDuck | I'll try that later | 22:33 |
CosmoHill | what lisence in the boot script under? | 22:35 |
ScottishDuck | no idea | 22:38 |
ScottishDuck | You have to agree to a restrictive non-redistributable user agreement though | 22:39 |
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CosmoHill | ? | 22:40 |
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CosmoHill | wb | 22:42 |
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ScottishDuck | ugh... BT | 22:46 |
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CosmoHill | hehe | 22:50 |
CosmoHill | ScottishDuck: IRC is working but my web isn't | 22:51 |
CosmoHill | I can't view any websites | 22:51 |
CosmoHill | and I think mum's just lost WOW | 22:51 |
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lpotter | does meego use HAL or udisks? | 23:45 |
trip0 | lpotter, devicekit-power | 23:46 |
trip0 | err, devicekit | 23:46 |
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messerting | Anyone knows if Ekiga is/will be available for Meego? | 23:55 |
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auke | currently isn't | 23:59 |
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messerting | Pretty lame of skype not to offer video chat on Linux (other than on Meego) | 23:59 |
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