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| unohu62 | Will it be posible to someday run meego on a Nokia N800 tablet and what's out there right now to run on it? | 00:22 |
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| ShadowJK | Well... realistically/practically speaking, N800 is kinda underpowered.. | 00:24 |
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| unohu62 | yes, I would agree. Is there anything I can run on it other than the 08 OS? | 00:28 |
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| arachnist | unohu62: mer? | 00:28 |
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| unohu62 | yes, I thought it was inactive due to meego | 00:30 |
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| unohu62 | I found this link http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N8x0 | 00:32 |
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| ShadowJK | I get the vibe that N8x0 interest has been dropping off exponentially ever since N900 came out | 00:33 |
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| unohu62 | Yes, like an ugly distance relative shooed away lol | 00:35 |
| lbt | so ugly I bought a bag for mine... | 00:36 |
| unohu62 | that'd be ugly ;-) | 00:37 |
| lbt | yeah, that link is the best one | 00:37 |
| lbt | MeeGo should run (for some definition of 'MeeGo' and 'run') | 00:38 |
| Aard | lbt: hey, at least it should be able to display the xterm as well as the n900 does ;) | 00:38 |
| lbt | better! | 00:39 |
| unohu62 | have to wait and see, hopefully I can run something more current on it. Even if I use it just for CLI apps | 00:41 |
| Aard | unohu62: x will work, the hardware just might struggle with all the shiny ui effects of the default ui stuff | 00:43 |
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| unohu62 | do you think I could run debian-ARM on it? | 00:44 |
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| unohu62 | I mean maemo is a form of debian | 00:45 |
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| Aard | quite likely, but don't expect a usable (as in, optimized for this type of device) ui | 00:47 |
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| Aard | I personally never did much with maemo-devices before n900 (had a look at it, and decided it was not a nice platform to develop on. changed with the introduction of qt, though) | 00:48 |
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| unohu62 | Thx for the info guys, off for supper. Take Care. | 00:50 |
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| xmenmatrix | hi there, is there a way to fix the empathy connect error issue, or is it still unsolved | 01:10 |
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| trem | nite all, sweet dreams | 01:51 |
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| damian_ | hi, where are the chromium img'sof meego i cant seem tofind them' | 04:51 |
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| damian_ | i think you just soldme a n900 too | 04:51 |
| damian_ | whats the difference between chrome and chromium anyway. i always used chromium, thought the name chrome was a windows thing | 04:52 |
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| thynctank | Chrome is the consumer product | 04:53 |
| thynctank | Chromium is the os project | 04:53 |
| thynctank | Safari -> webkit: chrome -> chromium | 04:54 |
| damian_ | i run chromium os on a netbook, but,what about chromium browser | 04:57 |
| damian_ | or is it just the browser taken straight from the os? | 05:01 |
| damian_ | i know chrome isnt gpled but chromium is | 05:01 |
| damian_ | anyway whatever im downloading the chrome image | 05:02 |
| damian_ | im assuming the standard image has firefox | 05:02 |
| damian_ | ? | 05:02 |
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| thynctank | Firefox? That's a competing product | 05:03 |
| TSCHAK | wrong thynctank | 05:04 |
| TSCHAK | Chromium = WebKit based browser by Google | 05:04 |
| TSCHAK | Chrome = Chromium + extra codecs and features | 05:04 |
| TSCHAK | ChromeOS = Linux based distribution with Chrome. | 05:04 |
| thynctank | I did leave out that it's based on webkit, yes | 05:05 |
| TSCHAK | :) | 05:05 |
| * TSCHAK chuckles | 05:05 | |
| TSCHAK | that wasn't even the part you got wrong | 05:05 |
| TSCHAK | but okay | 05:05 |
| damian_ | (BTW im talking about meego images, deciding what browser to use ) | 05:05 |
| thynctank | Okeydoke... | 05:05 |
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| damian_ | seems chrome is the way to go anyway | 05:06 |
| damian_ | hmm | 05:06 |
| damian_ | meego1.0 server error file not found | 05:06 |
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| damian_ | ohhhhhh. amazon LOL problemson my end. is there meego torrents | 05:08 |
| damian_ | ahh yes found one:) | 05:08 |
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| IceWewe | is there a working N800 port? | 06:07 |
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| IceWewe | Stskeeps, I was told you were a good person to ask about this, if you have time. | 06:09 |
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| brokendatapoint | hi all, can I install the Meego_SDK onto a running Meego system? | 06:26 |
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| nguyenchau | nokia said that 30th june meegoo will be available on N900 with GUI | 10:37 |
| nguyenchau | is it right bro? | 10:38 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 10:58 |
| Jaffa | nguyenchau: 30th June seems to be the release of the Handset UX. The N900 is a reference platform for MeeGo on ARM, so - yes, MeeGo Handset UX should be installable on to an N900 then. What you'll be able to *do* is unclear | 10:59 |
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| nguyenchau | can i PM you Jaffa? | 11:00 |
| Jaffa | nguyenchau: Sure, if you want. Not sure what wouldn't be public, though | 11:00 |
| tmzt | make phone calls? :) | 11:09 |
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| Jaffa | tmzt: One'd *hope* so | 11:24 |
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| lbt | morning | 11:26 |
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| Jaffa | lbt! | 11:29 |
| lbt | o/ | 11:29 |
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| * lbt wonders what is on the cards for today... | 11:31 | |
| lbt | maybe opening up the OBS to a beta group at last? | 11:31 |
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| mint | yeah just so you know guys. ive never had more problems in my life when trying to install a linux distro | 12:02 |
| mint | i gace up in the end | 12:02 |
| mint | gave | 12:03 |
| mint | and now im using a mint live disc trying to restore a corrupted hdd | 12:03 |
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| ZogG | mint, are you talking about meego or what? | 12:09 |
| mint | yep | 12:10 |
| mint | not trying to be rude just thought you should know | 12:10 |
| mint | i could write a few paragraphs about my problems | 12:10 |
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| tmzt | what happened? | 12:10 |
| ZogG | i'm user as you, so i don't really care, just wanted maybe to help you | 12:10 |
| ZogG | pupnik, \o/ | 12:11 |
| lbt | mint: FYI meego isn't really ready for non-expert install yet.. if it doesn't "just work" then you may find it challenging | 12:11 |
| mint | Just work? i have been using linux for over 10 years | 12:11 |
| mint | i was seriously surprised | 12:12 |
| tmzt | no details here | 12:12 |
| lbt | so what happened mint? | 12:13 |
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| mint | couldnt get the live disc to boot. np. tried the intaller. installer wouldnt let me boot from a btrfs HD, np, except, it also said i HAD to ue a btrfs partition. so thats where i got stuck. np, EVENTUALLY got it to install to an ext3 partition (no ext4? no reiser?) great. THEN it froze during the grub install., | 12:18 |
| mint | rebooted and i was met with a grub rescue screen | 12:19 |
| mint | and this is only valid points. a lot more went wrong | 12:19 |
| mint | what to do when u need a btrfs to install yet cant boot of one | 12:19 |
| tmzt | grub2 can be confusing | 12:20 |
| tmzt | it usually means it's not installed correctly | 12:20 |
| mint | well grub was fine it was its assiciated files on the boot partition that never got copied over | 12:20 |
| tmzt | those are part of grub | 12:21 |
| tmzt | if grub2 fell back to grub-rescue it's not working | 12:21 |
| tmzt | and you can't read btr, even readonly assuming a module even exists | 12:21 |
| thiago_home | you need an ext3 boot fs if you can't boot from the rootfs | 12:21 |
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| mint | it wouldnt let me install to anything but a btrfs | 12:23 |
| mint | yet it wouldnt let me boot off it either | 12:24 |
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| tmzt | so you need a /boot partition | 12:24 |
| tmzt | which is what thiago_home said | 12:24 |
| mint | ok well apologies. i do not know aNYTHING about grub2 | 12:27 |
| thiago_home | I don't think that's specific about grub2 | 12:27 |
| mint | so i should create a btrfs partition as / an ext3 as /boot and a swap partition | 12:28 |
| mint | and BTW the live disc did boot, just no x, i could ctrl-alt-f1 to a terminal | 12:30 |
| mint | but this was useless at it switched back to x every 5 seconds so i didnt even have time to type the password | 12:31 |
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| mint | how big should the /boot partition be? im gonna go have another shot at an install | 12:43 |
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| amjad | any one has installed meego 1.0 on emachines?? | 12:51 |
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| pupnik | hi ZogG :) | 13:12 |
| pupnik | havin a good day? | 13:12 |
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| mint | how big should a /boot partition be? | 14:01 |
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| ZogG | pupnik actually i'm having bad month =) | 15:02 |
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| CosmoHill | wow NeoReader is really fast | 15:26 |
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| kqr | oh hello | 16:52 |
| kqr | so what do we know about the handset features? | 16:52 |
| CosmoHill | me? nothing | 16:56 |
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| paul420 | Hi. I'd like to install "bzr" on freenode, but I can't find it (yum search bzr) | 16:58 |
| paul420 | any suggestion? | 16:58 |
| CosmoHill | what is bzr and how would you install it onto an IRC network? | 17:00 |
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| paul420 | did I say freenode? | 17:01 |
| paul420 | oops :) | 17:01 |
| paul420 | meego | 17:01 |
| paul420 | Hi. I'd like to install "bzr" on Meego, but I can't find it (yum search bzr) | 17:01 |
| paul420 | bzr is bazaar | 17:01 |
| paul420 | it's like hg or git | 17:01 |
| CosmoHill | hmm | 17:01 |
| CosmoHill | try "yum search bazaar" | 17:01 |
| paul420 | no matches foud | 17:02 |
| paul420 | found | 17:02 |
| paul420 | I'm wondering how to add other sources | 17:02 |
| paul420 | if there's other sources | 17:02 |
| CosmoHill | could you get an rpm and install it? | 17:02 |
| CosmoHill | or compile from source? | 17:02 |
| paul420 | Well, usually, bazaar and other tools like mercurial are available | 17:03 |
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| paul420 | back, sorry, some network problems | 17:15 |
| paul420 | So, I was wondering if there's a way to activate some extra repo with development tools like mercurial, bazaar, ... | 17:16 |
| thiago_home | meego repos don't contain everything | 17:16 |
| thiago_home | you usually don't develop in meego... | 17:16 |
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| paul420 | I don't want to develop, I just want to build a program for meego | 17:17 |
| Aard | paul420: git, cvs and svn are present, I guess that accounts for the majority of source repositories nowadays... | 17:18 |
| paul420 | Aard: not bzr :/ | 17:18 |
| paul420 | but it's ok, I'm going to build my app on another linux box | 17:18 |
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| Aard | well, I know bzr exists, but I've never had to use it | 17:19 |
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| paul420 | Another question | 17:20 |
| paul420 | Moblin was based on Firefox | 17:20 |
| paul420 | I liked the Moblin browser | 17:20 |
| paul420 | Do you think in the future Meego will be based on Firefox again? | 17:21 |
| thiago_home | MeeGo has different browsers to choose from | 17:21 |
| thiago_home | There's Firefox, Fennec, Chrome, Chromium and possibly more | 17:21 |
| Aard | paul420: what do you mean by `based on'? | 17:21 |
| paul420 | Aard: not based on, "well integrated" | 17:22 |
| thiago_home | browsers show webpages | 17:23 |
| thiago_home | which, by definition, are completely not integrated | 17:23 |
| paul420 | you can see the tabs in the "internet" panel | 17:24 |
| paul420 | that's what I mean by "well integrated" | 17:24 |
| Aard | I guess he's talking more about integration into the user experience, and yes, at least fennec (which is a firefox browser) will be. there are already qt builds in the daily repo | 17:25 |
| paul420 | Aard: awesome | 17:25 |
| paul420 | How can I try that? | 17:25 |
| paul420 | how stable is the "daily rep"? | 17:26 |
| thiago_home | I wouldn't count on it | 17:26 |
| Aard | adding that repo should work: http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/daily/core/repos/ia32/packages/ | 17:26 |
| Aard | don't ask me, I'm not an enduser | 17:26 |
| paul420 | I'm not an enduser too | 17:26 |
| paul420 | ready to crash my distro :) | 17:27 |
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| Aard | I meant I'm working with that repo, but I'm only seing the parts that are relevant to my packages, so I can't tell you much about stability | 17:28 |
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| paul420 | how do I switch to the daily repo? | 17:45 |
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| Aard | there should be something like repos.d or yum.repos.d somewhere in /etc or /etc/yum*. can't tell exactly, I'm usually pulling in the new packages when creating new images | 17:46 |
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| vgrade | lbt, OBS beta, count me in | 19:20 |
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| Aranel | is localization of MeeGo started or not? I can't see any .po file on Transifex? | 20:01 |
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| DawnFoster | Aranel: I think they are still in the process of migrating to Transifex. More details here: http://wiki.meego.com/Localization_team | 20:09 |
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| Aranel | DawnFoster: thank you :) | 20:11 |
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| CosmoHill | random question: how much does it cost an american to go to university a year? | 20:13 |
| GAN900 | CosmoHill, depends | 20:13 |
| CosmoHill | friend just said his sister spends $50K a year | 20:14 |
| GAN900 | On your state, whether the school is private or public, etc. | 20:14 |
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| GAN900 | $30k-60k for private | 20:14 |
| GAN900 | $10-$20 for public | 20:14 |
| CosmoHill | wow | 20:14 |
| GAN900 | Or less depending on the state | 20:14 |
| GAN900 | For instance Florida students who do well in high school get tuition paid at any public university in state. | 20:15 |
| CosmoHill | mine is $4800 a year, that doesn't include accommodation or food | 20:15 |
| GAN900 | Or the equivalent of a public tuition at a private school | 20:15 |
| GAN900 | Those numbers include room and board. | 20:15 |
| CosmoHill | I live at home :) | 20:16 |
| GAN900 | CosmoHill, given the size of the US and extreme variation in legislation from state to state, it's hard to give specific numbers on issues like this. ;) | 20:16 |
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| w00t_ | my significant other pays $11k/yr - in theory | 20:21 |
| w00t_ | in practice a big chunk of that goes away thanks to scolarship | 20:22 |
| w00t_ | but then, we're also not in the US | 20:22 |
| w00t_ | (and she's also a foreign student anyway, meaning she pays more, to confuse things more.. I'll be quiet now) | 20:22 |
| CosmoHill | hehe | 20:23 |
| CosmoHill | looking at a uni atm | 20:24 |
| CosmoHill | EU and scotish students don't have to pay any tutition fees | 20:24 |
| CosmoHill | if you're from the rest of the UK to have to pay £1800 ish which is half of any other UK uni | 20:24 |
| CosmoHill | England, Wales and NI being £3225 a year | 20:25 |
| w00t_ | right, she's from the EEC but not the EU | 20:25 |
| w00t_ | then, it goes up | 20:25 |
| w00t_ | (a lot) | 20:25 |
| CosmoHill | yes | 20:25 |
| CosmoHill | I think unis have a cap for UK and EU students | 20:26 |
| CosmoHill | but there isn't a cap for how much they can charge non-EU students | 20:26 |
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| CosmoHill | what is she studying? | 20:27 |
| GAN900 | CosmoHill, well, if you come to the US the women will be all over you. :P | 20:27 |
| CosmoHill | hehehe | 20:28 |
| w00t_ | just finished a BSc, starting MEng next (study) year | 20:28 |
| CosmoHill | ooo | 20:28 |
| CosmoHill | but what in? | 20:28 |
| w00t_ | she's a geek, like me | 20:28 |
| CosmoHill | -.- | 20:29 |
| CosmoHill | and the subject that she has a BSc in is....? | 20:29 |
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| w00t_ | nothing, yet.. waiting on the results to come back :) | 20:30 |
| w00t_ | but as I hinted, comp. sci | 20:30 |
| CosmoHill | ooo | 20:30 |
| CosmoHill | I'll have to see if i can beat her :p | 20:30 |
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| w00t_ | brik: ^^ | 20:33 |
| w00t_ | you have competition | 20:33 |
| CosmoHill | she's in the channel? cool | 20:33 |
| CosmoHill | auke is the last person in my user list cos there's so many people in here :/ | 20:34 |
| * w00t_ doesn't have a user list | 20:34 | |
| * lbt is using a decent client and can see _al_ to zs | 20:35 | |
| CosmoHill | i can scroll | 20:36 |
| CosmoHill | but I'm using a mighty mouse so i can't scroll back up :/ | 20:36 |
| w00t_ | lbt: client? :-) | 20:36 |
| lbt | konversation ... it's pretty good | 20:36 |
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| w00t_ | oh :-( | 20:36 |
| CosmoHill | I'm using Xchat aqua | 20:37 |
| CosmoHill | it's as old as my powerbook :o | 20:37 |
| w00t_ | I would have a very hard time using a GUI client ever again, if I was going to use one, it'd probably be quassel | 20:37 |
| CosmoHill | w00t_: irsse + screen + ssh? | 20:37 |
| w00t_ | CosmoHill: that's what I use now, yes | 20:37 |
| CosmoHill | it's a popular combo | 20:37 |
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| GAN900 | CosmoHill, Adium 1.5 | 20:42 |
| CosmoHill | damn you | 20:43 |
| CosmoHill | I can't go above 1.3 | 20:43 |
| GAN900 | Ah, 10.3? | 20:43 |
| CosmoHill | 10.4 tiger | 20:43 |
| GAN900 | Upgrade to 10.5 already | 20:43 |
| CosmoHill | maybe someday | 20:43 |
| CosmoHill | any different in performace cos I've heard 10.5 isn't as good as 10.4 on powerpc | 20:44 |
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| GAN900 | Ehh | 20:47 |
| GAN900 | Dunno | 20:47 |
| GAN900 | Felt better on my dual G5 | 20:47 |
| GAN900 | But then it killed itself, so I dunno. | 20:47 |
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| CosmoHill | were you the person who managed to get a mac pro cos the G5 watercooling leaked? | 20:48 |
| GAN900 | Yeah | 20:48 |
| CosmoHill | :3 | 20:48 |
| GAN900 | Only took me 4 months | 20:49 |
| GAN900 | and about two dozen phonecalls. | 20:49 |
| CosmoHill | apple support are okay, they're based in england or ireland (for me) | 20:49 |
| CosmoHill | Demon support sucks | 20:49 |
| CosmoHill | some guy in india reading a script off a screen | 20:50 |
| CosmoHill | "have you tried updating your router's firmware?" "How do you suggest I do that without internet -.-" | 20:50 |
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| CosmoHill | do you know what would confuse me the most about using atom processor | 21:53 |
| CosmoHill | the ability to put it on my bear legs without burning myself | 21:54 |
| CosmoHill | or the inability to feel the heat from the underside of the desk | 21:54 |
| thiago_home | you put a processor on your leg? | 21:57 |
| CosmoHill | i meant a computer with an atom processor | 21:57 |
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| thiago_home | :-) | 21:57 |
| CosmoHill | I have a powerbook which is 55C atm | 21:57 |
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| GAN900 | CosmoHill, buy an N900. | 22:29 |
| GAN900 | Atom is a joke compared to a real mobile CPU. | 22:29 |
| CosmoHill | i think an N900 might cost more :/ | 22:30 |
| Jaffa | GAN900: Seen email about MyNokia? | 22:31 |
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| GAN900 | Jaffa, later than this morning (EDT)? | 22:46 |
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| w00t_ | Jaffa: if you ever find out who was responsible for that, do me a favour and burn them at the stake, please? | 22:52 |
| GAN900 | Jaffa, ah, no. | 22:56 |
| GAN900 | Jaffa, count my silence as an agreement on all points. | 22:56 |
| Jaffa | GAN900: OK, cool | 23:00 |
| Jaffa | w00t_: Watch the council blog in about 10 minutes | 23:01 |
| w00t_ | Jaffa: I await with eager anticipation | 23:01 |
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| w00t_ | as always :) | 23:01 |
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| Jaffa | w00t_: http://maemo.org/community/council/nokia_response_to_mynokia_subscription_in_pr1-2/ | 23:07 |
| * w00t_ clicks | 23:10 | |
| GAN900 | Jaffa, can you style the quote somehow? | 23:10 |
| GAN900 | Italics? Indent? | 23:10 |
| thiago_home | <blockquote> ? | 23:10 |
| Jaffa | GAN900: Indented now. blockquotes are unstyled on the CSS | 23:11 |
| Jaffa | Italics looked shit. I've put in some quote marks. | 23:11 |
| Jaffa | The maemo.org CSS is really a bit crap for long blocks of text. | 23:11 |
| w00t_ | that response is a bit lacking, as you note :P | 23:13 |
| GAN900 | Yeah | 23:13 |
| GAN900 | I'd put it somewhere between a spit in the face and a brushing off on the intern. | 23:14 |
| GAN900 | Unbelievableness-wise | 23:14 |
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| * w00t_ also notes that his computer doesn't force him to subscribe to the manufacturer's latest spam^Wadvertising | 23:16 | |
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| * CosmoHill waves at brik | 23:23 | |
| brik | you done with bsc too then? | 23:26 |
| CosmoHill | I've just written a nice script that goes through /etc/hosts and ejects | 23:26 |
| CosmoHill | I've just finished my 2nd year | 23:26 |
| brik | comp sci? | 23:26 |
| CosmoHill | yep | 23:26 |
| brik | enjoying it so far? :) | 23:27 |
| CosmoHill | depends on the month | 23:27 |
| brik | heheh :P | 23:27 |
| CosmoHill | and how much is due | 23:27 |
| brik | yeah | 23:27 |
| brik | my uni is evil like that | 23:27 |
| CosmoHill | I'm so pissy when there is 4 weeks left and I still have no idea what I'm doing or what they want | 23:27 |
| CosmoHill | this year I handed one coursework in on time | 23:28 |
| thiago_home | sounds like work | 23:28 |
| CosmoHill | the rest had group extentions | 23:28 |
| brik | they deliberately make sure that all our assignments are due in the same week | 23:28 |
| CosmoHill | thiago_home: I finished uni at 11:55am on the 1st of june | 23:28 |
| thiago_home | half the time I don't understand what the MeeGo people want :-) | 23:28 |
| CosmoHill | I don't go back until late semptmber :d | 23:28 |
| thiago_home | the other half, I don't understand what the Symbian people want | 23:28 |
| brik | haha | 23:28 |
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| brik | CosmoHill: is this a bad time to tell you next year will be worse? | 23:29 |
| * brik hides | 23:29 | |
| CosmoHill | does that mean I'll lose it with a lecturer again? | 23:29 |
| CosmoHill | cos I told one to F off this year :/ | 23:30 |
| brik | my supervisor was kind enough to tell me that 4th year is twice as hard as 3rd year, just before I finished, way to ruin my holiday | 23:30 |
| brik | :o | 23:30 |
| brik | do what we do, winge, call them names, etc on irc where they can't see it :P | 23:31 |
| CosmoHill | that reminds me | 23:31 |
| CosmoHill | anyone in here go to the uni of texus? | 23:31 |
| lcuk | thiago_home, diplomatic mediation | 23:35 |
| lcuk | the best way to solve your pushme-pullyou problem would be to get everyone in the same room | 23:35 |
| thiago_home | yup | 23:36 |
| lcuk | you could include some weapons and let them sort it out themselves | 23:36 |
| thiago_home | don't have access to those | 23:36 |
| thiago_home | but it is my job to get people to understand each other | 23:36 |
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| lcuk | when we went to barcelona, there was a keynote delivered in multiple languages | 23:37 |
| thiago_home | spanish, catalan and english? | 23:38 |
| lcuk | we all got a little gadget and had translation done on the fly | 23:38 |
| lcuk | i think yeah | 23:38 |
| lcuk | point being :) we heard what everyone had to say no matter how they said it | 23:39 |
| thiago_home | unless the translator didn't understand and just made stuff up | 23:39 |
| lcuk | thats possible | 23:39 |
| GAN900 | Hehe | 23:47 |
| GAN900 | They seemed good about that | 23:47 |
| GAN900 | stating their uncertainty if they weren't sure. | 23:47 |
| lcuk | yeah indeed GAN900 | 23:49 |
| * lcuk was impressed by how well the translators worked | 23:50 | |
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| w00t_ | thiago_home: alcohol is a great mediator | 23:50 |
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