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miigHi, maybe somebody can help me. I installed mplayer. But i start any video, when i try to change the mode (full screen or not), rewind, or any other actions - netbook hangs.01:15
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tremnite all, sweet dreams01:21
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copyleftHi, by the wiki, can I clone a MeeGo trunk without an account of http://apt.meego.com ? http://wiki.meego.com/Build_Infrastructure/Sysadmin_Distro/OBS1.8_setup_openSUSE112#prj_and_prjconf09:05
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copylefts/apt/api/09:07
infobotcopyleft meant: Hi, by the wiki, can I clone a MeeGo trunk without an account of http://api.meego.com ? http://wiki.meego.com/Build_Infrastructure/Sysadmin_Distro/OBS1.8_setup_openSUSE112#prj_and_prjconf09:07
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vgradeWhats going on here, http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/24/x86_android/09:14
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Stskeepscopyleft: yes, take the daily repo09:26
copyleftStskeeps: So I just need to import the MeeGo prjconf into my local OBS?09:29
Stskeepsright, and rpms09:30
copyleftStskeeps: would you please give me some suggestion about how to import/sync all the rpms/repository?09:31
copyleftJust have the prjconf ready but not sure how to do next.09:32
Stskeepsafter coffee and starting work i might :)09:33
lbtanaZ: spam!!!!    it works :)09:33
copyleftI may try obs_mirror_project.09:34
copyleftStskeeps: Ok. good morning :p09:34
Stskeepslbt: i woke up to 80 emails09:35
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lbtuseful stuff though09:38
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copyleftIs it correct that I can subscribe to meego-packaging mailing list and receive mails. But can not access to http://lists.meego.com/private/meego-packaging/ , it says Private Archives.09:40
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Stskeepscopyleft: more interestingly, how did you hear of meego-packaging?09:42
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copyleftStskeeps: I forgot, maybe from wiki or something. Oops so it's a private list indeed?09:45
copyleftlots of mails :p09:45
Stskeepsprobably for a couple of days09:45
Stskeepsas after handset ux things with obs should be be opened, at least according to quim09:46
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lbtcopyleft: my understanding is that it's moderated subscription still09:50
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copyleftI see. Should I unsubcribe it then? If it's a mistake.10:02
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copyleftStskeeps: from here I guess. http://wiki.meego.com/Build_Infrastructure/Packagers_Developers#IRC_.2F_mailinglists_.2F_contact10:05
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odin_is the community OBS any closer to takeoff ?10:08
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lbtodin_: yes10:16
lbtthe ISP screwed up setting up an IP address last night10:17
copyleftlbt: cool!10:18
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Stskeepscopyleft: no personal opinion, if you can bare to read that insane amount of traffic, why not ;)10:23
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copyleftStskeeps: Yeah it makes me believe you are really active :p10:28
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JaffaMorning, all11:18
Stskeepsmorn11:18
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Stskeepsfuturama \o/11:22
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copyleftobs_mirror_project need the access account to build.meego.com too. ËŠ_Ë‹11:41
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Stskeepsthere's a guide for importing rpms somewhere on the OBS packages11:43
Stskeepspages11:44
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copyleftStskeeps: You meant opensuse obs wiki? okay I will find it. Thanks!11:45
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fcocuadradoHi, all! Is there any guide to create an own OBS?12:15
Stskeepscopyleft should know what direction to go in12:16
Stskeeps:P12:16
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copyleftfcocuadrado: lol, I'm working on it too. we may help each other.12:25
fcocuadradocopyleft: here, I'm working on port meego to another arch, and I'm seeing different possibilities12:26
fcocuadradocopyleft: obviously, I'll have to create my own OBS in a near future12:27
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copyleftfcocuadrado: I'm following this guide. http://wiki.meego.com/Build_Infrastructure/Sysadmin_Distro/OBS1.8_setup_openSUSE112 But still need to learn some OBS project/prjconf stuff. I'm new to RPM system.12:28
fcocuadradocopyleft: I'm new to RPM system too, I love deb ;)12:28
copyleftfcocuadrado: same here ;)12:28
copyleftfcocuadrado: another arch? not x86 and arm?12:30
fcocuadradocopyleft: yes12:30
fcocuadradocopyleft: sh412:30
copyleftfcocuadrado: oh. Good work to you! What I need is to build meego packages for x86 and arm. So I just need to clone the repository and MeeGo OBS.12:32
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copyleftfcocuadrado: I have been trying OBS 1.7 and 2.0, and now back to 1.812:33
fcocuadradocopyleft: thanks, now I only investigating12:34
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dl9pf_copyleft: you need the premade projconf - writing from scratch being new to RPM is hard. So i'd propose to experiment with an existing  obs on x86.13:22
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copyleftdl9pf_: Can I use MeeGo 1.0 projconf on my local OBS and clone the MeeGo 1.0 repository?13:38
dl9pf_yes13:39
dl9pf_you need the binaries and the sources in the right places13:40
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* copyleft don't know what to do next after creating a new project on local OBS and importing MeeGo projconf.13:41
copyleftWhen I trying to add a build repository. There is no MeeGo 1.0 , looks like I need to create the repository for MeeGo 1.013:42
copyleftGot stuck here for few days :S13:44
dl9pf_copyleft: ok - you won't find it there.13:44
dl9pf_you'll have to setup a full clone as in -> import binaries, projconf, sources  . thus you'll get a full local clone of MeeGo1.013:45
dl9pf_or if you've an MeeGo obs account, you can setup a link13:45
dl9pf_and skip the full local import13:45
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copyleftdl9pf_: I don't have a MeeGo obs accout. Can I apply for it ? Or waiting till it to be public.13:47
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copyleftdl9pf_: Did you mean I need to import binary from http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.0/core/repos/ , let my obs backend to create the MeeGo 1.0 chroot through it to build new packages?13:50
dl9pf_basically yes, but you need to import it in the correct folders depending on you project setup13:50
dl9pf_let do it like this : setup a link to build.opensuse.org as mentioned in the documentation and build a first package with a _link_13:51
dl9pf_then you get a bit more familiar and can work out the cloning13:52
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dl9pf_copyleft: first get that running, then you need to adapt (different pathnames!) http://wiki.maemo.org/OpenSuse_Build_Service/MeeGo_Setup13:55
copyleftdl9pf_: Ok. So I will  create a project with the remote OBS URL: https://api.opensuse.org/public, then create a _link_ package to build a rpm/deb for those default repositories on build.opensuse.org first13:55
dl9pf_yes, then you'll know the setup works13:55
dl9pf_then adapt the instructions above to your setup/pathnames13:56
copyleftdl9pf_: :D Thank you so so so much!! Ok trying it out.13:57
dl9pf_np - good luck13:59
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Stskeepsmorn achipa17:01
achipamorn Stskeeps17:02
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achipa(in LA, I guess :)17:03
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Stskeepshehe, nah, ugt17:03
Stskeeps:P17:03
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Monotokonot letting me on the web/going very slowly, but letting me through everything else with mega speed17:04
Monotoko(such as IRC/FTP)17:05
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StskeepsMonotoko: did you solve your webhost problem? (came home to poland saturday17:06
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MonotokoStskeeps, aye i had to divert emergency funds from a friend lol17:09
Stskeepsalright, but you're good now?17:09
Monotokoaye im alright :)17:09
Monotokohmmm17:11
Monotokoanyway to get dev tools into meego? or a packaged version of xchat?17:11
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paxlmic-image-creator: error: no such option: --pipe18:31
paxlIs that normal that the latest git mic-image-creator just fail with that ?18:31
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paxlHere is the complete loghttp://pastebin.com/4LWp9pE818:33
paxlhttp://pastebin.com/4LWp9pE818:34
paxlsorry18:34
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BliceHello. Does Meego depend on dbus and pulseaudio?18:42
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slaineBlice:18:53
slainehttp://meego.com/developers/meego-architecture18:53
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Bliceslaine: ah, that's disapointing18:55
BliceI thought they would have chosen a saner solution18:55
slaineSurely that's subjective18:55
Blicethen again this is nokia we're talking about. I think qt, the gui toolkit alone, is now having a dependency on dbus.18:55
Bliceslaine: Maybe. Not for embedded hardware, I don't think.18:56
slaineThe underlying infra comes from Gnome Mobile iirc, which has those deps18:56
BliceThat is probably the first mistake, yes18:57
TSCHAKWerkoh please18:57
* TSCHAKWerk rolls eyes.18:57
slaineMaemo and Moblin both had that stack in common and was probably one of the draws for the merger18:57
BliceWe're getting into 1ghz embedded chips now and we're wasting those cycles on crap18:57
* TSCHAKWerk is getting very tired of these academic discussions by people ill equipped to actually do something better18:57
TSCHAKWerkso please shut the fuck up.18:57
Blicefull glibc, full gnu coreutils, where did embedded system development go?18:58
slaineWashing machines ?18:58
pippinBlice: and color screens? GPUs?.. this is not the embedded pain you are looking for18:59
slaineagain, embedded development, another subjective term18:59
StskeepsBlice: 1ghz is hardly embedded :)19:05
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w00t_Stskeeps: depends more on your usage rather than the hardware I'd say19:06
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CosmoHillAfternoon19:13
poutsioh jeez these android tutorials are just horrible19:14
poutsi(b = (Button)findViewById(R.id.flag_button)).setBackgroundDrawable(this.getResources().getDrawable(R.drawable.flag));19:15
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poutsiapparently "that's the way to do it"19:15
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* CosmoHill pet pets poutsi 19:17
CosmoHillit will get easier as you learn the weird cryptic language19:17
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poutsithankfully I don't have a gPhone yet so I have no incentive to19:18
CosmoHillI'm annoied at my cluster19:19
CosmoHillwednesday it failed to install on anything19:20
poutsiI'll just take this as a lesson in writing tutorials19:20
CosmoHilltoday it installed first time and worked fine19:20
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Talus_Laptopgreetings,19:20
CosmoHillhello19:21
BliceStskeeps: 1ghz I guess is hardly embedded, but running Gnome on it? :/19:21
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StskeepsBlice: dbus is hardly full gnome19:21
Stskeepswhat would you want instead? CORBA? :P19:22
BliceNo I would prefer dbus, lol19:22
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Stskeepsgood19:22
Stskeeps:P19:22
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trip0meego is now loaded on wife's netbook20:18
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trip0we shall see if it passes the "wife test"20:18
slainetrip0: careful, she'll probably just give you a list20:18
trip0:-S20:19
slaineThere's no passing the wife test, there's only degrees of failure, you should know that by now20:19
slaine;P20:19
trip0haha20:20
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TSCHAKWerkre wife/gf test: don't I know that. ugh21:44
TSCHAKWerkI had a girlfriend who would WAKE ME UP in the morning, because she wanted me to reach over to the touch panel on our bed, and tap "TV"21:45
aukelol21:45
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DawnFosterAs the female in the house who provides all of the tech support, maybe I should run things through the boyfriend test? :)21:52
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GAN900TSCHAKWerk, clearly that was a ploy to get you to talk to her. :P21:55
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TSCHAKWerkGAN900: if that were the case, morning sex would have worked much better.21:56
TSCHAKWerk;)21:56
AardTSCHAKWerk: you have a somewhat weird definition of talking21:56
TSCHAKWerkwell, see, it wakes me up, and makes me alert enough for the conversation that inevitably follows. ;)21:57
GAN900Ha21:57
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TSCHAKWerkbut no, it was actually because I work on LinuxMCE, and the very first time she used it, I had been working on "that area" of the software, and it crashed the first time. I had since fixed the bug, but it was enough for her to never touch it again.21:59
Aardshould be enough reason for you to never touch _her_ again...22:00
TSCHAKWerkwhich brings me to another sad but true point... Hackers can't have normal girlfriends, they don't understand you. Hackers can't also have hackers for girlfriends, you both starve. :P22:01
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