| DawnFoster | Maybe talk to Bergie and have him test your feed in the new planet just to make sure it's going to work there | 00:00 |
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| lbt | it's fine on maemo.org | 00:00 |
| DawnFoster | your feed has been added, but it refuses to pick up the posts even when I manually refresh | 00:01 |
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| lbt | <sniff> | 00:01 |
| DawnFoster | i'll try to manually refresh it again | 00:01 |
| DawnFoster | no luck | 00:02 |
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| lbt | oh well | 00:03 |
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| lbt | thanks for trying for me :) | 00:04 |
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| DawnFoster | happy to "help" | 00:06 |
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| lbt | kimitake: I missed your comment on my blog... | 00:10 |
| lbt | tbh, it tends to be write-only ;) | 00:11 |
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| lbt | I don't know how you join the team - I think you just ask X-Fade. | 00:11 |
| lbt | ping me when/if you read this | 00:12 |
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| dneary | DawnFoster, Hi! | 00:16 |
| DawnFoster | hey dneary | 00:16 |
| pupnik_ | good evening to mr dnreary | 00:16 |
| pupnik_ | :) | 00:16 |
| lbt | o/ | 00:16 |
| dneary | DawnFoster, Who in Intel might be interested in this: http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2010/05/19/gnome-developer-training-at-guadec/ ? | 00:17 |
| dneary | DawnFoster, Go to GUADEC & get 2 days intensive training in Linux developer tools & community practices for only €1200 | 00:17 |
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| DawnFoster | not sure. I can ask around. | 00:18 |
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| dneary | The interesting bit for me is the "learn to work with community projects, getting code upstream" - the social/political side of open source | 00:18 |
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| dneary | That, in the end of the day, people have the most trouble with | 00:18 |
| DawnFoster | to be honest, most of the people in our group have been working in the Linux kernel community & other OS communities for a while | 00:18 |
| DawnFoster | we have a lot of this expertise in house | 00:19 |
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| dneary | DawnFoster, Depends on the group, I bet... For sure the kernel guys are used to the kernel culture | 00:21 |
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| DawnFoster | right, but we also have people contributing to tons of other open source projects. | 00:22 |
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| lbt | dneary: mmm... who's going to translate wiki->drupal .... and how long is it going to add to the process to "get it right" | 00:51 |
| * lbt favours "get it out" over "get it right" | 00:51 | |
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| lbt | although maybe we should go for a big reveal on policy too... ;) | 00:52 |
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| DawnFoster | lbt: better yet, we could have a secret policy that we don't reveal at all :) | 00:53 |
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| lbt | oh, wait... | 00:53 |
| DawnFoster | lbt: I'm with you on getting it out vs. finding a perfect solution | 00:53 |
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| lbt | hmm, how about "the wiki is authoritative until the drupal solution is in place"... | 00:54 |
| DawnFoster | lbt: what are we talking about in Drupal? A single page? how many pages? after we establish the policy, how often will it change? | 00:55 |
| DawnFoster | I'm guessing we can work something out & eventually get it in Drupal if that's what makes sense. | 00:55 |
| lbt | http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ | 00:56 |
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| DawnFoster | so, a billion pages (rough estimate) | 00:56 |
| lbt | so it has the potential to be large... and it is likely to be quite dynamic for months to come | 00:56 |
| lbt | so yes, that's about right ;) | 00:57 |
| lbt | I think maybe a hundred is a realistic estimate | 00:57 |
| lbt | I'd like to import fedora or suse policy as a starting point | 00:58 |
| lbt | but we need to consider things like multi-user | 00:58 |
| dneary | lbt, 1. Get it out | 00:58 |
| lbt | dneary: yup... | 00:58 |
| dneary | 2. Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V | 00:58 |
| dneary | (fix formatting as necessary) | 00:58 |
| * lbt hasn't used drupal enough to know how links/tables/lists/headings convert | 00:59 | |
| lcuk | [ctrl]+f, BLAH, [tab], meego, [ctrl+a] ;) | 00:59 |
| dneary | Reasonably OK | 00:59 |
| dneary | There's a wissywig editor | 00:59 |
| lbt | eek | 00:59 |
| lbt | I'm mainly worried that we're bikeshedding anyway | 00:59 |
| dneary | You can copy HTML & paste it into the editor & it picks up ost of the formatting | 00:59 |
| lbt | the real isssue is "the policy is mandatory" | 00:59 |
| dneary | You're dead right - get it out | 00:59 |
| lbt | "of course you can raise bugs against it" | 01:00 |
| lbt | once we have a dictat on those points... | 01:00 |
| dneary | You might reasonably anchor the discussion by saying "OK - once it's validated, we'll push it to the CMS. Now - what changes are needed to get it to validated? | 01:00 |
| lcuk | i think the larger the policy the harder it will be to find something sane that most are happy with. what about policy just being expanded from a couple of paragraphs based on tsg input | 01:00 |
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| lbt | dneary: no | 01:01 |
| lbt | absolutely not. | 01:01 |
| lbt | it's mandatory *now* on the wiki | 01:01 |
| DawnFoster | lcuk: let's start with input from maintainers / project leads (not TSG) | 01:01 |
| trem | nite all, sweet dreams | 01:01 |
| lbt | and as a package owner if you don't like the bug, change the policy via the process | 01:01 |
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| lbt | night | 01:04 |
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| DawnFoster | lcuk: dance and the world dances with you :) | 01:07 |
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| lcuk | lol DawnFoster i posted that already :p | 01:07 |
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| DawnFoster | watching you on Twitter in parallel - like alternate reality or something | 01:07 |
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| lcuk | iwas gonna write a third one | 01:08 |
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| lcuk | pizza hut ice cream is served too runny | 01:09 |
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| ml-mobile | pizza hut serves ice cream? | 01:09 |
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| lcuk | ml-mobile, sure | 01:10 |
| lcuk | they have an ice cream factory | 01:10 |
| lcuk | unlimited refills | 01:10 |
| lcuk | :D | 01:10 |
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| DawnFoster | hence the watered down, runny ice cream :) | 01:10 |
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| lcuk | they give warm bowls tho and the ice cream is really overly soft | 01:10 |
| lcuk | yeah | 01:10 |
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| lcuk | jake loves it tho :D | 01:10 |
| lcuk | he was very reserved today only 1 bowl | 01:11 |
| DawnFoster | my boyfriend always scoops it and lets it sit until it gets runny - he likes it that way. | 01:11 |
| DawnFoster | it's gross imho :) | 01:11 |
| lcuk | yeah, jake had a giddy fit on the way home too :D he was giggling at everythin | 01:12 |
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| lcuk | E:TOOMUCHSWEETS | 01:12 |
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| DawnFoster | gotta love kids amped up on sugar | 01:13 |
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| lcuk | tracy was just as bad | 01:13 |
| lcuk | ;) | 01:13 |
| DawnFoster | :) | 01:14 |
| lcuk | second portion of chocolate cake today | 01:14 |
| lcuk | (she *says* that on your birthday you don't put on weight so you can eat anything) | 01:14 |
| lcuk | i dont believe this personally | 01:14 |
| andyph66 | i havent had cake or ice cream in like a year | 01:14 |
| DawnFoster | She's right | 01:14 |
| DawnFoster | very wise :) | 01:14 |
| lcuk | i have halved my sugar intake in the last month | 01:15 |
| lcuk | well, more than | 01:15 |
| lcuk | gone from 2 1/2 spoonfuls in coffee to 1 | 01:15 |
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| DawnFoster | My weakness is the local fried pie cart: http://twitter.com/whiffies | 01:15 |
| DawnFoster | sounds gross, but it's delicious | 01:17 |
| lcuk | are those suckers deep fried? :O | 01:17 |
| lcuk | http://www.foodcartsportland.com/wp-images/2009/05/photo9-225x300.jpg | 01:17 |
| lcuk | the photo looks suspect | 01:17 |
| TSCHAKeee | yes | 01:17 |
| TSCHAKeee | mmmm deep fried | 01:17 |
| DawnFoster | deep fried - that's exactly what they look like | 01:17 |
| DawnFoster | they actually don't soak up much grease | 01:18 |
| DawnFoster | they only fry 3-4 min | 01:18 |
| lcuk | what delights are inside? | 01:18 |
| * lbt reads -dev in amazement.... apparently writing the policy on a wiki is a security issue... | 01:18 | |
| * lbt goes to bed, clearly dreaming already | 01:18 | |
| TSCHAKeee | lcuk, speaking of fried stuff... http://www.facebook.com/#!/album.php?aid=171014&id=716957114 | 01:18 |
| DawnFoster | I'm a bit of a health freak normally, but these are awesome | 01:18 |
| TSCHAKeee | lbt, WHAT?! | 01:18 |
| DawnFoster | I had blueberry pie last night | 01:18 |
| TSCHAKeee | actually: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=171014&id=716957114&l=4e3c848e48 ;) | 01:18 |
| lbt | TSCHAKeee: "If we host final policy in the wiki, it can end up potentially becoming an unneeded security issue." | 01:19 |
| DawnFoster | also raspberry, chocolate, cherry, apple, coconut, peach, etc. for fruit pie | 01:19 |
| TSCHAKeee | lbt, oh jesus #@($#@($@ christ. | 01:19 |
| * TSCHAKeee goes in there with a baseball bat | 01:19 | |
| DawnFoster | they also have meat pies and vegetarian savory pies | 01:19 |
| DawnFoster | mmmm, pie | 01:19 |
| * lbt knows where he'd shove a pie right now.... | 01:20 | |
| TSCHAKeee | that | 01:20 |
| DawnFoster | :) | 01:20 |
| TSCHAKeee | is is mental | 01:20 |
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| lbt | that chappy on -dev ... | 01:20 |
| * lbt hacks the debian policy to say 'root password must always be "fred"' | 01:20 | |
| lbt | WIN | 01:21 |
| TSCHAKeee | hahahaha | 01:21 |
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| lcuk | no lbt, you dont want to get into an edit war about the correct capitalisation of your password | 01:21 |
| lcuk | we know "Fred" is the correct one | 01:21 |
| lbt | Mr Dibbler to you | 01:22 |
| inz | Mine is “password„ | 01:22 |
| lcuk | :D | 01:22 |
| TSCHAKeee | I guess they can't say what boot loader is going to be used, that would be a security issue | 01:22 |
| TSCHAKeee | maybe put the ks files in rot13 | 01:23 |
| TSCHAKeee | THAT WOULD BE SECURE! | 01:23 |
| lcuk | it comes from assumed utilisation elsewhere | 01:23 |
| TSCHAKeee | :P :) | 01:23 |
| inz | TSCHAKeee, rot13 is obsolete, you should use rot260 | 01:23 |
| lcuk | somewhere on the site a link to policy saying "only enter here if you follow the policy [here]" | 01:23 |
| TSCHAKeee | inz, but KNOWING that rot260 would be used would be IN ITSELF a security rish! | 01:24 |
| TSCHAKeee | risk! :) | 01:24 |
| lbt | TSCHAKeee: the argument is "anyone can edit a wiki so they might change the policy" ... which is classic heirarchical management thinking | 01:24 |
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| TSCHAKeee | *epic-facepalm* | 01:24 |
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| lbt | "don't let people do what they're not allowed to do" | 01:24 |
| TSCHAKeee | lbt, i guesss they've never heard of version control, huh? | 01:24 |
| lbt | "don't trust people" | 01:24 |
| TSCHAKeee | on a community project | 01:24 |
| TSCHAKeee | imagine! | 01:24 |
| TSCHAKeee | IT'S THE LATEST THING! | 01:25 |
| lbt | have you ever tried to deploy a wiki in a corporate environment? | 01:25 |
| TSCHAKeee | lbt, repeatedly | 01:25 |
| TSCHAKeee | yes | 01:25 |
| lbt | they add access control #1 | 01:25 |
| TSCHAKeee | i can tell you some stories | 01:25 |
| TSCHAKeee | fidelity wnated to put every item in its own namespace | 01:25 |
| lcuk | i do also (like you and others lbt) think having a fixed confirmed printable version of the known understood policy once created is a good thing. | 01:25 |
| TSCHAKeee | i had to spend hours explaining to them | 01:25 |
| TSCHAKeee | WHY THAT WAS A BAD IDEA | 01:25 |
| lbt | lcuk: you know you can get wikipedia on a CDROM | 01:26 |
| lcuk | sure lbt | 01:26 |
| TSCHAKeee | and yes, I twisted Mediawiki to add ACLs the likes of which should NEVER | 01:26 |
| TSCHAKeee | have been added | 01:26 |
| lbt | I'm not seriously saying the wiki is the right long term solution BTW.... but the underlying text->www technology is *so* not the point | 01:26 |
| lbt | anyhow... bedtime | 01:27 |
| DawnFoster | night lbt | 01:27 |
| lcuk | night david | 01:27 |
| lbt | and I got some django credits tonight... so maemo.org OBS tomorrow :) | 01:27 |
| lbt | o/ | 01:27 |
| TSCHAKeee | yayz, later. | 01:27 |
| lcuk | lbt you need creditz o_O | 01:28 |
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| lcuk | typo | 02:24 |
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| timeless_mbp | what should i do w/ it? :) | 05:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | no idea? | 05:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'll send you a few chicks to tell ya | 05:23 |
| timeless_mbp | DocScrutinizer: do you do any programming? | 05:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | programming my own mess every day | 05:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | U know I'm a robot | 05:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | self organizing neural network | 05:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | sometimes a N900 or similar device is left over inside shield radius, so it gets organized as well | 05:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | or assimilated | 05:27 |
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| neopsis | does meego support ion yet? | 09:07 |
| Stskeeps | well, tell me a bit about the processor | 09:08 |
| Stskeeps | IA, ARM? | 09:08 |
| neopsis | i have a hp mini 311 | 09:10 |
| TSCHAKeee | he's talking about atom + nvidia GPU | 09:11 |
| neopsis | intel n270 with nvidia ion | 09:11 |
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| neopsis | exactly | 09:11 |
| TSCHAKeee | instead of a GMA | 09:11 |
| neopsis | so right now it's only support GMA GPU? | 09:11 |
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| poutsi | anybody know why repo.meego.com doesn't provide the debianizations for e.g. syslinux, only the upstream sources and binary packages? | 09:42 |
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| Stskeeps | well, it is packages built against meego, which is rpm based.. | 09:42 |
| poutsi | surely not the tools? | 09:43 |
| poutsi | i'm talking about http://repo.meego.com/tools/repos/ubuntu/9.10/ and such | 09:43 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 09:44 |
| poutsi | sorry, should've been clearer | 09:44 |
| Stskeeps | well, file a bug if there's no deb version | 09:44 |
| poutsi | no, there is, but it's annoying because the binary package versioning scheme differs from ubuntu's, which causes apt to want to downgrade syslinux | 09:44 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 09:45 |
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| poutsi | otoh, maybe that is a bug :p | 09:45 |
| poutsi | off to report | 09:45 |
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| Corsac | yeah they're missing the epoch | 09:46 |
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| Corsac | poutsi: otoh are you sure you need them? | 09:46 |
| poutsi | well, lucid's syslinux is too old | 09:47 |
| Corsac | ok | 09:47 |
| Corsac | (I find that weird though) | 09:47 |
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| Corsac | debian testing has 3.86 | 09:47 |
| poutsi | i tried building from upstream with the older ubuntu debianizations but it wouldn't work | 09:47 |
| Corsac | though we didn't even freeze yet, but... | 09:47 |
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| poutsi | yeah, lucid's is at 3.63 | 09:47 |
| Corsac | wow | 09:47 |
| Corsac | I guess you can report a bug on the tools, asking for the epoch to be added | 09:48 |
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| poutsi | yep, and to provide source packages if possible | 09:48 |
| Stskeeps | source packages not being provided is a OBS bug | 09:48 |
| Stskeeps | we had same problem in Mer | 09:48 |
| poutsi | ahhh okay | 09:49 |
| Stskeeps | not malice, just bug :) | 09:49 |
| Stskeeps | it builds them and everything | 09:49 |
| Corsac | http://repo.meego.com/tools/repos/ubuntu/9.10/syslinux_3.85.orig.tar.gz | 09:49 |
| Corsac | the source seems available | 09:49 |
| Corsac | (not the dsc, but still) | 09:49 |
| poutsi | Corsac, yeah, but that's just the upstream source without the debianizations | 09:49 |
| Corsac | but yeah I agree | 09:50 |
| Corsac | that'd help provide patches against the packaging | 09:50 |
| poutsi | now is this an sdk bug or a dev tools bug :p | 09:50 |
| Corsac | dev tools I'd say | 09:51 |
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| poutsi | there, #2357 | 09:56 |
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| Stskeeps | morn slaine | 11:29 |
| slaine | howdy howdy | 11:29 |
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| pupnik_ | thinking of Meego: a quote seemed apropos | 11:31 |
| pupnik_ | Mal:"I don't plan on any shooting taking place during this job." Jayne:"Well, what you plan and what takes place ain't ever exactly been similar." | 11:31 |
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| ttone | I have a doubt regarding the meego official gstreamer source, I could find two separate meego gstreamer hostings, one is at repo.meego.com (contributed by mobilin) and other is on git repo (contributed by maemo). Which of these is used in meego platform? | 12:21 |
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| lbt | ttone: also ask on the -dev mailing list | 12:30 |
| ttone | lbt, sure.. | 12:31 |
| slaine | the repo's have http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/preview/core/repos/source/gstreamer-0.10.28-2.9.src.rpm | 12:32 |
| ttone | slaine, these were contributed by mobilin, but the git repositories (contributed by maemo) are on older versions of gstreamer. Any idea which will be used in meego or will they be merged? | 12:34 |
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| slaine | ttone: sorry, I totally misread your question | 12:36 |
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| ttone | slaine, no problem | 12:39 |
| slaine | so do you know that the version in the src rpm doesn't match the git repo ? | 12:40 |
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| ttone | slaine, it doen't match + the fixes/patches are different | 12:42 |
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| slaine | definitly a bug | 12:44 |
| slaine | as lbt suggested, point it out on the -dev list and file a bugzilla entry | 12:44 |
| slaine | at a guess, the rpms that are currently being used, will be the final versions | 12:44 |
| slaine | so the gitorious repo's are probably wrong here ??? | 12:45 |
| ttone | so, are they supposed to be matching? | 12:45 |
| * lbt wonders what the policy is on this... | 12:45 | |
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| Stskeeps | it is a bit funky really | 12:45 |
| slaine | Stskeeps: have you any ideas ? | 12:45 |
| Stskeeps | cos there's meego harmattan and meego moblin | 12:45 |
| slaine | I thought that approach was canned ? | 12:45 |
| jusliukk | slaine, using .28 as final may not fly with maemo folks, let me raise the issue there - looks like an oversight | 12:46 |
| slaine | jusliukk: I hope we don't end up with different base os libs for netbook/handset | 12:46 |
| jusliukk | slaine, that is definitely not the goal :( | 12:46 |
| Stskeeps | we don't have different gstreamer in meego/n900 for sure | 12:46 |
| Stskeeps | we use whatever is in trunk | 12:46 |
| jusliukk | the hope is of course to try to stick with latest stable upstream, eventually | 12:47 |
| slaine | otherwise we'll be right back where I said we'd be originally (MeeGo for Netbooks == Moblin 2.2++, Meego for Handsets == Harmattan++) | 12:47 |
| X-Fade | slaine: I don't think the problem lies in harmatan++ | 12:48 |
| slaine | ? | 12:48 |
| X-Fade | I think that what lies after harmattan will be properly aligned. | 12:48 |
| X-Fade | But for harmattan it is a bit more tricky. | 12:48 |
| jusliukk | guys, if you find this kind of version mismatches, please bring them up here asap so we can try to synchronize still... | 12:48 |
| slaine | jusliukk: I doubt there's time for that, meego1.0 for netbooks was branched weeks ago | 12:49 |
| Stskeeps | to be exact: meego 1.0 | 12:49 |
| Stskeeps | netbook is just a funky repo on top | 12:49 |
| slaine | good | 12:49 |
| jusliukk | there is always time, if there is the will ;) | 12:49 |
| jusliukk | at least up until the release has been made | 12:49 |
| slaine | so then, the issue here is that the git repo is not what's being used to make the src rpms ? | 12:50 |
| Stskeeps | right | 12:50 |
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| slaine | so is the rpm version pulled from the arm repo the same as the rpm pulled from the x86 repo ? | 12:51 |
| slaine | If they're both the same, then it's hopefully just a gitorious oversight | 12:51 |
| Stskeeps | it should be, but the bi-weekly are out of sync atm | 12:51 |
| Stskeeps | same source, same rpm result | 12:51 |
| slaine | Stskeeps: surely that'd only reflect minor versions | 12:51 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: bi-weekly for arm is stuck at 31st march, ia32 isn't | 12:52 |
| slaine | I don't follow | 12:52 |
| Stskeeps | nm | 12:52 |
| Stskeeps | there's a bug in whatever syncs Trunk to public. | 12:52 |
| slaine | the packages haven't been updated since the 31st publically, but the internal builds are mostly insync ? | 12:52 |
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| Stskeeps | yes | 12:53 |
| Stskeeps | OBS doesn't do preferential treatment :) | 12:54 |
| slaine | Item 121 on the glitch list from working behind curtains | 12:55 |
| slaine | "ta da, look what we made" | 12:55 |
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| Stskeeps | glitch list doesn't sound like a bad idea | 12:56 |
| Stskeeps | i mean, we are learning, nokia and intel and learning how these things affect open development | 12:56 |
| Stskeeps | it is a useful knowledge to have :) | 12:56 |
| X-Fade | Like the papercuts list for Ubuntu ;) | 12:57 |
| slaine | Put one on the wiki | 12:57 |
| Stskeeps | or make a presenation for the confernece | 12:57 |
| Stskeeps | "What did we learn from the big reveal process" | 12:57 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:57 |
| w00t_ | "it sucks" | 12:58 |
| w00t_ | oops | 12:58 |
| * w00t_ hides | 12:58 | |
| slaine | So long as imad and valterri do it right and say "Ta daaaa" when 1.0 is unveiled, it'll be all worth while | 12:58 |
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| Stskeeps | and it has a hello kitty theme, obviously | 12:59 |
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| lbt | OBS *can* do preferential treatment BTW | 13:00 |
| Stskeeps | sssh | 13:00 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:00 |
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| lbt | :D | 13:01 |
| lbt | hello kitty? It's all worth it! | 13:01 |
| X-Fade | lbt: http://breet.com/maemo/valentine.png :) | 13:04 |
| X-Fade | We already had sweet themes before ;) | 13:05 |
| lbt | any for the n900... Denise will be surprised! | 13:05 |
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| pupnik_ | why can't we just ~flow~ with newer kernels | 13:12 |
| pupnik_ | being slow was very uncool for nokia 770 and N800 | 13:13 |
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| Vali | anybody know how to build a single package for MeeGo in PC with out going to chroot to image ? or How i can copy the src.rpm in general filesystem to chroot to build in chroot ? | 13:27 |
| Vali | i have seen http://wiki.meego.com/Developing_in_a_Meego_Environment related to building the MeeGo package in chroot but for me i am not able toaccess the src.rpm file general filesystem to copy into chroot | 13:29 |
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| glinpus | cp it from outside the chroot into it, before chrooting, or bind mount an area from the parent filesystem into the chroot | 13:31 |
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| Vali | how can i do that is there any detailed procedure available ? | 13:33 |
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| Vali | ho can i cp it to chroot what is path to chroot | 13:37 |
| Vali | ? | 13:37 |
| Stskeeps | you can use /parentroot to access your outside file system | 13:38 |
| timeless_mbp | Vali: so | 13:38 |
| Vali | in parentpath there is only home folder nothing is there... | 13:38 |
| timeless_mbp | do you understand how your file system is shaped? | 13:38 |
| Vali | not fully .. | 13:39 |
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| timeless_mbp | Stskeeps: hey, which packages are you poking these days in meego? | 13:41 |
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| timeless_mbp | i'm wondering if mxr.moego.org/meego/ has helped you yet | 13:41 |
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| Vali | ok now i have seen the mounting path /var/tmp of image now i will try once again | 13:48 |
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| Vali | StsKeeps : if iwas build any package through chroot in arm-image is it will build for ARM ( where the tool chains will be ?). | 14:00 |
| Stskeeps | they're native :) | 14:01 |
| Stskeeps | you're running the actual gcc | 14:01 |
| Vali | you mean gcc for arm ? | 14:01 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 14:02 |
| Stskeeps | it is a bad development model but what existed back then | 14:02 |
| Vali | sorry still i don't understand it is building for ARM or x86 ? | 14:04 |
| Stskeeps | building for arm | 14:04 |
| Vali | ok | 14:04 |
| Vali | means prmbuild is utilizing the gcc present in the ARM image right ? | 14:05 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 14:05 |
| Vali | ok | 14:05 |
| Vali | error : when i type rpmbuild -ba ~/rpmbuild/SPECS/ConsoleKit.spec it was saying that " bash: rpmbuild: command not found " | 14:08 |
| Stskeeps | really? | 14:09 |
| Vali | yes | 14:09 |
| Stskeeps | in the chroot? | 14:09 |
| Vali | bash-4.0# rpmbuild -ba ~/rpmbuild/SPECS/ConsoleKit.spec | 14:09 |
| Vali | bash: rpmbuild: command not found | 14:09 |
| Vali | yes | 14:09 |
| Stskeeps | what image are you using? | 14:10 |
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| Vali | i am chrooting in meego-preview-netbook-core-20100330-001.usbimg | 14:11 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 14:11 |
| Vali | is there any problem with that image ? | 14:12 |
| Stskeeps | you need to yum install rpmbuild and such then | 14:12 |
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| Vali | bash-4.0# yum install rpmbuildsh: line 1: 26181 Aborted /usr/bin/gconftool-2 -g /system/proxy/mode /system/proxy/autoconfig_url /system/http_proxy/host /system/http_proxy/port /system/proxy/secure_host /system/proxy/secure_port /system/proxy/ftp_host /system/proxy/ftp_port /system/proxy/socks_host /system/proxy/socks_port /system/http_proxy/ignore_hosts 2>&1 | 14:13 |
| Vali | Setting up Install Process | 14:13 |
| Vali | No package rpmbuild available. | 14:13 |
| Vali | Nothing to do | 14:13 |
| Vali | bash-4.0# | 14:13 |
| Vali | it is showing error as show above | 14:13 |
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| Vali | sorry for above dump actually i tried to copy single line it juast copied entire | 14:14 |
| Stskeeps | http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/devel/n900/images/meego-codedrop-ia32-developer-201003311106.img.bz2 | 14:14 |
| Stskeeps | try that one, after bzip2- -d'ing it | 14:14 |
| Stskeeps | bzip2 -d, that is | 14:14 |
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| Vali | ok | 14:45 |
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| Stskeeps | they'll probably introduce fremantle PR1.2, meego 1.0, handset UX, duke nukem forever and flash 10 for maemo5 in one week | 16:55 |
| slaine | 10.1 | 16:55 |
| Stskeeps | and all the people on talk.maemo.org will have a heartattack | 16:56 |
| slaine | lol | 16:56 |
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| Nadley | hi | 23:09 |
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| lbt | fyi http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-lpic1-v3-102-5/index.html | 23:41 |
| lbt | (learn rpm/yum) | 23:41 |
| pupnik | oh just going to ask | 23:41 |
| pupnik | ty | 23:41 |
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