| slaine | Be came very close with the PPC BeBox's | 00:00 |
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| lcuk | the way the core chipset operated in harmony made it a joy to use | 00:00 |
| lcuk | not tried | 00:00 |
| ShadowJK | slaine, i tried it both with and without ram expansion, and with kickstart 1.3 and 2.0 :( | 00:00 |
| lcuk | shall do sometime tho | 00:00 |
| DawnFoster | jrayhawk: it's an extended learning class taught by John Hartman & Carri Bugbee | 00:00 |
| ShadowJK | I only wanted to play Elite :/ | 00:00 |
| lcuk | :D ShadowJK | 00:00 |
| slaine | God, that was an EPIC game | 00:00 |
| slaine | Not EPIC the publisher that is | 00:01 |
| slaine | hehe | 00:01 |
| lcuk | no internet required and millions of planets to visit | 00:01 |
| ShadowJK | lol | 00:01 |
| * lcuk trades ore with ShadowJK | 00:01 | |
| slaine | rofl | 00:01 |
| ShadowJK | ore!? pah. I'll see you at Riedquat, let's settle this! | 00:03 |
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| lcuk | time for me to find some alcohol in the bernards star sector | 00:04 |
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| lcuk | \o | 00:04 |
| CosmoHill | anyone got RHEL 6 installed? | 00:05 |
| ShadowJK | lcuk, Barnard's star was in the sequels :) | 00:05 |
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| slaine | ShadowJK: nerd | 00:06 |
| slaine | ;) | 00:06 |
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| jrayhawk | Huh. Didn't even know about that department. | 00:06 |
| ShadowJK | iirc safe agricultural place. you could throw away the guns on your space ship and use the extra space to haul more rice to starving Sol, where people were too advanced and stagnated by then to know how to feed themselves ;p | 00:06 |
| ShadowJK | <- played elite & sequels alot :( | 00:07 |
| th0br0 | bye everyone | 00:07 |
| DawnFoster | jrayhawk: it's outside of the traditional PSU curriculum. Mostly for professionals who want to pick up some new skills http://extended.pdx.edu/index.shtml | 00:08 |
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| lbt | <grin> my first proper job involved 3D models and renders | 00:30 |
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| vgrade | 6k ram,6k rom, acorn atom, showing my age there | 00:32 |
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| trem | nite all, sweet dreams | 00:36 |
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| pupnik | Does meego have to offer a "run your android apps as well" experience in 2011-2012: | 00:57 |
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| microlith | if someone feels brave, and has the time to burn | 00:59 |
| slaine | time for bed | 01:00 |
| slaine | catch you all later | 01:00 |
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| CosmoHill | http://black-flag.co.uk/wordpress/2010/04/23/red-hat-enterprise-linux-6-beta-grub-2/ | 01:15 |
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| Covalence | CosmoHill: does grub2 support btrfs yet? | 01:58 |
| CosmoHill | I don't know | 01:59 |
| Covalence | that will be so sweet when it does | 01:59 |
| * arjan wonders about grub2 | 02:00 | |
| arjan | why would anyone care | 02:00 |
| Covalence | booting snapshots of filesystems | 02:00 |
| * arjan just likes syslinux better I guess | 02:01 | |
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| arjan | one bootloader for the installer, live image and final OS | 02:01 |
| Covalence | More like taking snapshots of the rootfs over time and reverting back if u need to....useful when doing yum upgrades and something breaks | 02:02 |
| Corsac | grub2 is nice when you want a large stuff which is able to do quite some stuff, one bootloader to rule them all etc. | 02:02 |
| Corsac | syslinux/extlinux is nice when you just want a simple task done | 02:02 |
| arjan | Covalence: btrfs does that for us | 02:03 |
| arjan | Corsac: ... like booting ;-) ? | 02:03 |
| Covalence | arjan: exactly...but picking which snapshot to use on boot would be cool | 02:04 |
| jrayhawk | Seems like more of a job for an initrd, but I guess grub2 is slowly subsuming most initrd functionality anyway. | 02:05 |
| CosmoHill | grub2 is good for CLFS because it supports multiple arches | 02:06 |
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| Covalence | so will the meego telephony be open enough to implement UMA? | 02:10 |
| ShadowJK | I don't think any hw vendors are offering such 3g/gsm modems | 02:12 |
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| scorpius_ | can meego be installed on an iphone? | 02:14 |
| ShadowJK | Apple doesn't let you install anything on it | 02:15 |
| Covalence | why does hw matter? | 02:15 |
| Covalence | uma looks like it can all be done in sw except for one codec that i think requires hw assist | 02:16 |
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| ShadowJK | Well you could probably run all of gsm in software | 02:20 |
| ShadowJK | but usually you have modems with their own cpu, firmware and sdram doing that, and talking to the host system via some protocol | 02:21 |
| ShadowJK | like AT or phonet, I guess | 02:21 |
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| Covalence | right...but is uma usually implemented at that level? i dont think it is since it works over any data connection | 02:23 |
| ShadowJK | dunno | 02:23 |
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| Covalence | my understanding is its an ipsec tunnel to funnel what normally goes to the towers | 02:24 |
| CosmoHill | night night | 02:24 |
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| ShadowJK | as far as I understand from the graphs though, there could be a binary blob translating the protocol the modem speaks into the protocol ofono speaks, so if you dont need the modem for it... | 02:25 |
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| Covalence | 8-) | 02:25 |
| Covalence | in theory ofono could talk at a stub acting as a software modem marshalling the data over a uma session | 02:27 |
| Covalence | *to | 02:28 |
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| Covalence | ill have to read up on ofono...not familiar at all with it or how it usually works...eg how modem exposes itself | 02:29 |
| ShadowJK | it's weird how uma looks kinda dead | 02:32 |
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| ShadowJK | and picocells are starting to look more common | 02:32 |
| * ShadowJK wonders if on 4g it'll just be datapipe + voip | 02:32 | |
| arjan | ShadowJK: ofono is gpl | 02:33 |
| arjan | not lgpl | 02:33 |
| arjan | not sure you can/want do to binary blobs in that setup | 02:33 |
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| Covalence | it is weird...but uma provides a lot that isnt there with current voip offerings like all sms and voice calls seamlessly work with it using the already existing phone number | 02:34 |
| ShadowJK | blob daemon then? :P | 02:34 |
| ShadowJK | I thought the hard part about using ofone was obtaining driver for your modem? | 02:34 |
| * ShadowJK can move phone number to voip anyway.. but point about sms :) | 02:35 | |
| Covalence | i loved UMA when i had it...made my phone work seamless as if i was in the US when i was in south america...with only wifi. | 02:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: aiui it actually is IP datapipe and VoIP | 02:35 |
| ShadowJK | y voip I probably meant SIP | 02:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer | btw SIP can do "SMS" | 02:37 |
| Covalence | but id need a whole new number and service provider | 02:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | in fact some SIP providers convert INFO IM to outbound SMS | 02:38 |
| ShadowJK | My operator dropped UMA support but kept SIP support | 02:39 |
| Corsac | arjan: yeah but sometime you want to boot some more exotic layouts | 02:40 |
| ShadowJK | I guess UMA came in an expensive black box with huge annual fees | 02:40 |
| Corsac | (though you might consider that complex stuff should be handled by an initrd only, and request a /boot partition easily available in all cases) | 02:40 |
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| arjan | UMA is GSM-over-IP basically | 02:44 |
| arjan | not "standard voip" | 02:44 |
| Covalence | right thats my understanding | 02:46 |
| Covalence | IPSEC tunnel for GSM like packets. | 02:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm, just all-is-IP | 02:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer | over whatchamaycallit OTA RF | 02:51 |
| arjan | so if you do gprs | 02:52 |
| arjan | you get ip-over-gsm-over-ip | 02:52 |
| arjan | which likely is ip-over-ppp-over-atm ;) | 02:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | also they're unbundling the carrier and voice provider | 02:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer | so it's quite possible SIP roviders extend their service to genuine SIP-over-LTE/UMA | 02:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | iirc even such things are specified like SIP provider plugin to carrier account&balance | 02:57 |
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| ShadowJK | don't worry, they'll pick the technically ugliest solution :) | 03:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer | yeah, that's what that review in german mag c't said. They already did | 03:04 |
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| Termana | yello | 13:24 |
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| lbt | meego is doomed | 13:45 |
| thiago_home | why? | 13:45 |
| lbt | no emacs | 13:45 |
| Termana | Oh no! Saint GNUcious won't be happy :( | 13:46 |
| Termana | GNUcio* something like that | 13:46 |
| Termana | The fat man the normal people call Stallman :P | 13:46 |
| lbt | well, that totally justifies the RWG / Surrounds WG :) | 13:46 |
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| * thiago_home agrees | 13:47 | |
| thiago_home | now I have to support that proposal | 13:47 |
| lbt | a reply to the -ml wouldn't go amiss... | 13:48 |
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| lbt | hmm, maybe meego has a chance after all... http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/devel/extra/repo/ia32/os/i586/emacs-23.1-5.19.i586.rpm | 15:53 |
| RST38h | is there pico? | 15:54 |
| lbt | sure M-x pico-mode | 15:54 |
| RST38h | naah, real pico | 15:54 |
| lbt | does not compute" | 15:54 |
| RST38h | not the LISP interpreter masquerading as one | 15:55 |
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| lbt | "Bad id for repo: Meego Extras, byte = 5" really means "Space invalid in a repo name" .... talk about the bleedin' obvious... | 16:09 |
| lbt | note that byte=5 uses a base index of 0... | 16:10 |
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| MacTarbo | how can i write a .usbimg on a usb drive ? | 18:46 |
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| DawnFoster | MacTarbo: these are some older instructions from Moblin on how to write the image to a usb drive: http://moblin.org/documentation/test-drive-moblin/using-moblin-live-image | 18:55 |
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| MacTarbo | thanks . i will try | 18:56 |
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| * CosmoHill has a hamster rolling around his room | 22:42 | |
| Stskeeps | well, at least you're not looking through DUI code like i am | 22:43 |
| th0br0 | :D | 22:43 |
| Stskeeps | i'm wondering how it actually works. | 22:43 |
| th0br0 | or trying to find this horrible esp bug caused by polymorphism | 22:43 |
| th0br0 | s/find/eliminate/ | 22:43 |
| infobot | th0br0 meant: or trying to eliminate this horrible esp bug caused by polymorphism | 22:43 |
| th0br0 | I've spent the past 2 hours trying to solve it -.- | 22:43 |
| Stskeeps | i'm wondering how the hell i am only getting 2fps on a simple panning on a atom device | 22:44 |
| CosmoHill | I really should do work :( | 22:44 |
| Stskeeps | ie, in software rendering, which it can seemingily do | 22:44 |
| lcukn900 | thought you had hw rendering now sts | 22:45 |
| * CosmoHill may require redball | 22:45 | |
| th0br0 | How proficient are you guys at C++? | 22:45 |
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| th0br0 | but nvm i think this problem in particular is caused by v8 | 22:45 |
| CosmoHill | Cosmo < th0br0 | 22:46 |
| thiago_home | Google V8? | 22:46 |
| th0br0 | yes. | 22:46 |
| th0br0 | It's a nice framework | 22:47 |
| CosmoHill | I think if i didn't have a load of cables down there freddy would have taken out my server ethernet :/ | 22:47 |
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| lcukn900 | stskeeps but either way if its a simple screen whats the bottle neck? | 22:50 |
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| Stskeeps | lcukn900: that's what i'm pondering | 22:51 |
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| Stskeeps | i mean, from a first glance, a widget toolkit on top of qgraphicsview shouldn't be that slow | 22:51 |
| lcukn900 | does rest of x11 work at normal speed? | 22:53 |
| thiago_home | GV is not optimised for Atom and Intel graphics cards | 22:53 |
| lcukn900 | ie before you start adding the layers | 22:53 |
| th0br0 | although, come to think of it, this could also be a bug in the msvc 2k8 compiler ... | 22:53 |
| lcukn900 | thiago? which is it optimized for? | 22:54 |
| thiago_home | NVidia cards and ARM | 22:55 |
| thiago_home | that's what we have in the office | 22:55 |
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| thiago_home | we can get 60fps out on the N900 | 22:55 |
| TSCHAKeee | that truly is impressive | 22:55 |
| lcukn900 | but my nvidia card is on amd chipset machine | 22:55 |
| VDVsx | Stskeeps, H Direct UI ? :D | 22:55 |
| lcukn900 | thiago cool stuff | 22:56 |
| Stskeeps | VDVsx: meego touch, the new name | 22:56 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 22:56 |
| VDVsx | so last one (0.20) | 22:56 |
| thiago_home | don't get me wrong, but I'm trying to stop DUI | 22:56 |
| VDVsx | :D | 22:56 |
| lcukn900 | thiago just stop drinking | 22:56 |
| VDVsx | thiago_home, stop ? | 22:56 |
| thiago_home | stop it from being used | 22:57 |
| VDVsx | lol | 22:57 |
| lcukn900 | so where can i get 60fps dui from? | 22:57 |
| lcukn900 | which repo is it on | 22:57 |
| lcukn900 | cos 60fps is what liqflow runs at | 22:57 |
| thiago_home | I didn't say 60fps DUI | 22:57 |
| lcukn900 | at cal and stuff | 22:58 |
| thiago_home | I said 60fps Graphics View | 22:58 |
| VDVsx | lcukn900, do you have a super computer with 4gb of graphics card ? :D | 22:58 |
| VDVsx | lol | 22:58 |
| lcuk | lol VDVsx no need with liqbase :P | 22:58 |
| lcuk | ahhh 60fps GV | 22:59 |
| th0br0 | dui / liqflow? | 22:59 |
| lcuk | does x11 refresh that quickly? | 22:59 |
| thiago_home | lcuk: OpenGL/ES | 22:59 |
| th0br0 | nvnm | 22:59 |
| lcuk | i just know liq* stuff refreshes faster than any x11 | 22:59 |
| thiago_home | the vsync is 60fps | 22:59 |
| lcuk | hence the 60fps == something not x1 | 22:59 |
| lcuk | 1 | 22:59 |
| lcuk | rog | 22:59 |
| lcuk | so how well does DUI work ontop of graphicsview? | 23:00 |
| lcuk | on anything reasonable for meego | 23:00 |
| lcuk | ie atoms or arms | 23:00 |
| lcuk | stskeeps wheres the code you are working from for your DUI testing - so we can get some open eyes on it to see whats up | 23:04 |
| Stskeeps | qt.gitorious.org obviously | 23:05 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 23:05 |
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| lcuk | reasonable enough | 23:06 |
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| lcuk | is this on n900 or on other device? | 23:07 |
| Stskeeps | atom board/joggler | 23:07 |
| * lcuk has a joggler :D | 23:08 | |
| lcuk | running on meego base on joggler or mer? | 23:08 |
| Stskeeps | basically i'm wondering why the toolkit is so slow (even on a fairly capable processor), when it doesn't use a qglwidget as a backport.. i mean, yes, it should be slower, but not deadly slow :P | 23:09 |
| Stskeeps | er, not backport, viewport | 23:09 |
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| lcuk | personally i dont see why any 3d should be "slow" - we all played 3d games for years well on software rendering | 23:10 |
| VDVsx | Stskeeps, does joggler has any kind of graphics accelerator/card ? | 23:10 |
| Stskeeps | yes, gma500 (i know..) but i am working on the hypothesis that it really shouldn't be that badly performing, even in sw rendering :P | 23:11 |
| lcuk | isnt the gma500 ~= the powervr? | 23:12 |
| Stskeeps | roughly, just insaner divers | 23:12 |
| Stskeeps | drivers | 23:12 |
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| th0br0 | bye, ttyl | 23:35 |
| CosmoHill | cyas | 23:36 |
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| * lbt enjoys running "apt-get install nc" on meego | 23:47 | |
| * CosmoHill doesn't enjoy adding a non playing person to his game | 23:48 | |
| CosmoHill | another linked list to deal with :( | 23:50 |
| CosmoHill | ah new idea | 23:52 |
| CosmoHill | add a linked list of non playing people to the map class instead of the location, since they have location IDs anyway you know where they are | 23:52 |
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| CosmoHill | oh bollocks | 23:56 |
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