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| baffo32 | after doing yum update on the meego codedrop on my n900, I seem to have no mouse nor mouse device files - should udev create these yet? | 02:33 |
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| steventao | Hi all | 10:35 |
| Stskeeps | morning | 10:36 |
| steventao | afternoon in TW :p | 10:36 |
| steventao | The problem is fixed. | 10:36 |
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| Stskeeps | cool :) | 10:37 |
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| Stskeeps | what was the issue? | 10:37 |
| steventao | Some error about qemu-arm-static register. | 10:37 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 10:37 |
| steventao | Could we run the X ? | 10:38 |
| Stskeeps | Xorg's there | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | try to grab xorg-x11-driver-fbdev i think | 10:39 |
| steventao | hmm. | 10:39 |
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| Stskeeps | xorg-x11-drv-fbdev | 10:40 |
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| Stskeeps | oh, right, it should be there already | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | try to run Xorg & | 10:42 |
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| steventao | Sorry, just on phone. | 11:09 |
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| steventao | No, there is an error. | 11:10 |
| steventao | Xorng is fail to run. | 11:10 |
| steventao | Xorg | 11:10 |
| Stskeeps | could you pastebin Xorg.0.log? | 11:11 |
| steventao | http://meego.pastebin.com/UqZqCPdi | 11:13 |
| sp3000 | or, a video shot from above where you raise your fists and scream XOOOOORRRRRGGghh | 11:13 |
| Stskeeps | steventao: ah, you probably need to install xorg-x11-drv-intel | 11:14 |
| steventao | I use yum but I can't find that. | 11:16 |
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| steventao | Should I use rpm to install it? | 11:17 |
| Stskeeps | http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/devel/trunk/repo/ia32/os/i586/xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.11.0-1.3.i586.rpm should be there | 11:17 |
| steventao | I should use http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/devel/trunk/repo/arm/os/armv5tel/xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.10.903-3.1.armv5tel.rpm | 11:19 |
| steventao | Is it? | 11:19 |
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| Stskeeps | well, you're on a x86 machine it looks like | 11:20 |
| Stskeeps | so i586 probably | 11:20 |
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| steventao | but it is arm image. It confuse me. | 11:22 |
| Stskeeps | hmm :P | 11:23 |
| Stskeeps | [ 88380.547] (--) PCI:*(0:0:2:0) 8086:2e32:17aa:304f Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller rev 3, Mem @ 0xfe400000/4194304, 0xd0000000/268435456, I/O @ 0x0000dc00/8 | 11:23 |
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| Stskeeps | then you prolly need the intel driver i guess, but no idea if that runs | 11:28 |
| Stskeeps | on armv5tel | 11:28 |
| steventao | hmm.. | 11:29 |
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| steventao | I just install the driver | 11:29 |
| steventao | And there are some new error messages :p | 11:29 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 11:30 |
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| steventao | http://meego.pastebin.com/nZ3ugepj | 11:30 |
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| Stskeeps | no idea sorry, didn't meet this chipset before | 11:32 |
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| steventao | See, thx the help. | 11:34 |
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| zenvoid | woo, intel chipset on ARM boards, not even know they existed | 11:54 |
| Stskeeps | 2700G maybe | 11:57 |
| Stskeeps | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_2700G | 11:57 |
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| Khertan | Hi ! | 12:03 |
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| drzz | Hey Khertan | 12:04 |
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| sri_ | where can i change my init to boot directly onto login shell wihtout X? | 12:06 |
| Stskeeps | inittab i guess | 12:07 |
| sri_ | stskeeps: what value i have to set for it? | 12:07 |
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| slaine | set the default to 3 | 12:07 |
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| slaine | 3 == MultiUser console + Networking, 5 == 3 + X | 12:08 |
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| sri_ | its already set to 3 and is trying to start x | 12:09 |
| sri_ | it was set as "id:3:initdefault:" | 12:09 |
| slaine | is this a default setup or have you been twiddling ? | 12:09 |
| sri_ | i didnt changed anything | 12:10 |
| slaine | and further below, what does it seay that level 3 does ? | 12:10 |
| sri_ | 3 - Full multiuser mode | 12:10 |
| sri_ | 5 - X | 12:10 |
| slaine | lbt, nice email | 12:11 |
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| slaine | sri_: further down, there should be a program path | 12:11 |
| sri_ | slaine: didnt get you....where can i find the program path? | 12:15 |
| sri_ | by default, if i extract meego rootfs to SD card and try to boot, does it start GUI? | 12:15 |
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| slaine | For n900, yes | 12:16 |
| slaine | for x86 no | 12:16 |
| sri_ | i am using rootfs from http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/devel/n900/images/meego-codedrop-arm-n900-201003311626.tar.gz | 12:17 |
| slaine | there you go then | 12:17 |
| slaine | I'm not sure about the arm fs setup, It should be the same as x86 | 12:17 |
| Stskeeps | it isn't, you might have to cut some /etc/rcX.d things | 12:17 |
| sri_ | yes its same | 12:17 |
| slaine | it's probable that it was short circuited to run X | 12:17 |
| sri_ | oh okay | 12:18 |
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| sri_ | stskeeps: but as initrc has value 3, it should not try to start X right | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | look at /etc/rc3.d | 12:19 |
| timeless | on some platforms 3 includes X | 12:20 |
| slaine | timeless: on meego, it shouldn't | 12:20 |
| timeless | the wonderful thing about standards is that there are so many from which to choose :) | 12:21 |
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| Stskeeps | slaine: there's a short circuit | 12:21 |
| RST38bis | Moo, Sts | 12:22 |
| timeless | rst: how long have you had /intel/ ? | 12:23 |
| slaine | Stskeeps: really ?, god, that's lame | 12:23 |
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| lbt | slaine: reply? need to gain some momentum | 12:32 |
| lbt | l8r | 12:32 |
| slaine | lbt, yes | 12:33 |
| slaine | busy with work stuff atm | 12:33 |
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| sp3000 | well, that's valid advice I guess | 13:10 |
| sp3000 | it'll fix /that/ problem for sure :) | 13:11 |
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| Termana | hey hey | 13:18 |
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| RST38bis | Oh shit, I have got /intel/. The end of the world must be near indeed. | 13:45 |
| Stskeeps | the truth comes out | 13:45 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:45 |
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| WAHa_06x36 | hey, has anyone tried running meego on a beagleboard? | 15:45 |
| Stskeeps | WAHa_06x36: should be fairly simple - grab a kernel, compile it, dump modules into lib/modules | 15:46 |
| Stskeeps | try to boot the arm n900 fs | 15:46 |
| suihkulokki | why not just enable beagleboard platform on the meego n900 kernel? | 15:48 |
| slaine | suihkulokki: if and when we get OBS access I'm sure we will | 15:48 |
| slaine | as we will generic x86 | 15:48 |
| slaine | and I'd also like to see Tegra2 support | 15:48 |
| suihkulokki | tegra might be quite tricky, I guess they have a very androidy kernel? | 15:49 |
| suihkulokki | but beagle is essentially a simplified n900 | 15:49 |
| WAHa_06x36 | Stskeeps: I'm pretty much a noob at compiling the kernel, so have any good pointers for what to do? | 15:49 |
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| * WAHa_06x36 tried to compile a kernel for Ångström earlier, and got something that totally wouldn't boot at all. | 15:50 | |
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| Stskeeps | WAHa_06x36: take an existing built one >= 2.6.28 and take the kernel image and the modules i guess | 15:50 |
| WAHa_06x36 | I guess I could steal an Ångström one. although I kind of want .33 so I'd get cpuidle, which ånström doesn't have... | 15:51 |
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| Stskeeps | :nod: | 15:51 |
| WAHa_06x36 | also, what's with the -developer and -n900 files in http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/devel/n900/images/ ? | 15:51 |
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| slaine | At a guess, the -developer includes a compiler toolchain | 15:52 |
| Stskeeps | -developer is the Developing_in_a_MeeGo_Environment thing | 15:52 |
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| WAHa_06x36 | Stskeeps: is it useful at all otherwise or should I just ignore it? | 15:54 |
| slaine | suihkulokki: Tegra2 is just an ARM cpu with a 9300/9400 GPU | 15:55 |
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| slaine | so should be normal arm kernel aiui | 15:55 |
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| Stskeeps | WAHa_06x36: only for building on x86 towards arm, or having a reference point of what OBS dumps into a typical build root | 15:58 |
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| WAHa_06x36 | all right. | 15:59 |
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| WAHa_06x36 | well, I took an ångström kernel and tried booting the n900 filesystem, and I got this: | 16:25 |
| WAHa_06x36 | [ 21.611968] VFS: Mounted root (ext3 filesystem) on device 179:2. | 16:25 |
| WAHa_06x36 | [ 21.625000] devtmpfs: mounted | 16:25 |
| WAHa_06x36 | [ 21.633453] Freeing init memory: 180K | 16:25 |
| WAHa_06x36 | [ 24.550720] omap_wdt: Unexpected close, not stopping! | 16:25 |
| WAHa_06x36 | which is clearly a lie, because it stopped! | 16:25 |
| WAHa_06x36 | and rebooted after a minute or two. | 16:25 |
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| WAHa_06x36 | (kernel 2.6.32) | 16:27 |
| Stskeeps | by n900 filesystem, which one do you mean? | 16:27 |
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| WAHa_06x36 | meego-codedrop-arm-n900-201003311626.tar.gz | 16:31 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 16:32 |
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| WAHa_06x36 | so, any idea what might be the problem there? | 16:44 |
| Stskeeps | console= set up correctly? | 16:45 |
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| WAHa_06x36 | Stskeeps: hmm, it's set to whatever it was for Ångström. | 17:01 |
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| WAHa_06x36 | just running with the exact same boot options, should I change anything? | 17:02 |
| Stskeeps | WAHa_06x36: what's the current cmdline? | 17:02 |
| WAHa_06x36 | let's see... | 17:02 |
| WAHa_06x36 | console=ttyS2,115200n8 console=tty0 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rw rootfstype=ext3 rootwait omapfb.video_mode=1024x768MR-16@60 | 17:02 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 17:03 |
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| thebootroo | hello | 18:15 |
| thebootroo | woot_ : you are the FaceBrick developper ? Since it's using Qt4, will it work flawlessly on MeeGo May's release ? | 18:17 |
| DawnFoster | anyone else having issues getting to http://forum.meego.com/ | 18:18 |
| DawnFoster | I'm getting a network timeout message | 18:18 |
| slaine | DawnFoster: snap | 18:19 |
| Stskeeps | DawnFoster: yup - http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/forum.meego.com | 18:19 |
| lcuk | thebootroo, facebrick is written in qt - at the moment im under the impression qt apps will generically work - however "flawlessly" is another matter and may require some tweaking of any app to have that keyword ;) | 18:19 |
| thebootroo | DawnFoster: /mee to | 18:19 |
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| DawnFoster | ugh. | 18:20 |
| DawnFoster | I'm pinging Mike and Reggie, but neither seem to be on IRC / IM. | 18:21 |
| DawnFoster | I sent them both emails | 18:21 |
| lcuk | if its of any reassurance, talk.maemo.org appears down too | 18:21 |
| DawnFoster | yikes | 18:21 |
| slaine | it's the ash cloud | 18:22 |
| slaine | the zombies have started their attack | 18:22 |
| lcuk | i dont think reggie smokes | 18:22 |
| frals | well tmo has an habit of dying for ~5-10minutes randomly the last few days | 18:22 |
| thebootroo | did anyone here managed to get maemo6/gitorious content 'duihome' or 'duicompositor' compiling on Maemo5 or MeeGo TP ? | 18:22 |
| lcuk | frals it might occur same on fmc too but no1 notices | 18:22 |
| frals | yea | 18:23 |
| lcuk | except for now lol | 18:23 |
| * frals goes back to trying to crash his program | 18:23 | |
| lcuk | i think thats easy, just click send a few times with no content | 18:23 |
| lcuk | ie disable send button until recipient selected ;) | 18:24 |
| DawnFoster | OK, reggie is on it | 18:24 |
| frals | well if theres no recipient it tells the user hes stupid now lcuk! | 18:25 |
| frals | DawnFoster: its up again | 18:25 |
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| DawnFoster | thanks to Reggie for getting the forums back up! | 18:30 |
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| * lbt saw arjan on kernel pkging.... :) | 18:37 | |
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| Stskeeps | well, kernel people should be the most optimal to approach in the open - a lot of experience from kernel mailing lists, etc | 18:56 |
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| slaine | DawnFoster: when can we expect that meego.com website to be updated seeing as quite alot of stuff was revealed at IDF and Collab Summit ? | 19:08 |
| DawnFoster | slaine: I'm trying to get some of that content to post it. | 19:09 |
| DawnFoster | at least from the collabsummit. | 19:09 |
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| slaine | ok, cool | 19:10 |
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| slaine | DawnFoster: based on the IDF material, I'd like to see the Devices section getting fleshed out a little | 19:12 |
| slaine | just my 2cents | 19:12 |
| DawnFoster | My guess is that we'll start fleshing out that section as we release the code. | 19:13 |
| slaine | hmmm | 19:13 |
| slaine | that's a sore point around here, so I'll resist commenting | 19:14 |
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| postmanPechkin | hi | 20:50 |
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| RST38h | <yawn> | 21:27 |
| Stskeeps | indeed | 21:28 |
| OldChap | meego does not seem to raise much discussion | 21:28 |
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| RST38h | There is no "meego" an average lemming can use | 21:29 |
| RST38h | Once there is, you will get at least a temporary spike of activity | 21:29 |
| OldChap | that's true | 21:29 |
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| RST38h | Lemmings have got short attention spans nowadays though, so meego will need to keep the news coming to maintain some level of interest | 21:30 |
| OldChap | I think the Meego announcement was quite wrongly timed by intel and nokia | 21:30 |
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| OldChap | after initial announcement it took over month that anything happened | 21:31 |
| RST38h | it is not the timing | 21:31 |
| OldChap | and still the situation is - well - quite premature | 21:31 |
| RST38h | you really need to keep the news coming perpetually nowadays | 21:32 |
| OldChap | that's true | 21:32 |
| RST38h | If there is >=1 week without news, the crowds go elsewhere. They will either oggle at iPhone 4G or discuss latest Droid firmware, or just play the latest MMORPG | 21:32 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: I thought I'd document the kernel package pre-processor: http://pastebin.ca/1870115 | 21:32 |
| Stskeeps | 'it's perl'? | 21:33 |
| OldChap | but whatever nokia says, meego seems to affect seriously maemo5 development | 21:33 |
| * lbt seriously wonders if the lack of discussion is pure shame | 21:33 | |
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| Stskeeps | OldChap: it shouldn't though, people should write towards qt | 21:33 |
| OldChap | so no news on meego side nor on maemo | 21:33 |
| RST38h | Meego is just one platform of many, and it does not have enough distinguishing features for the general masses to care | 21:33 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i'm wondering if build-dep'ing on 'cpp' would be just as sane | 21:34 |
| Stskeeps | and doing the whole thing with #if defined(...) | 21:34 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:34 |
| lbt | I was going to rewrite it using cpp | 21:34 |
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| lbt | it's very autotools-y | 21:35 |
| Stskeeps | m4~! | 21:35 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:35 |
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| * lbt considered emacs lisp macros too... | 21:35 | |
| lbt | mmmm food is ready.... l8r | 21:35 |
| OldChap | Stskeeps: I agree, that's a pitty | 21:36 |
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| pkt | :e! | 21:43 |
| pkt | oops, wrong window | 21:43 |
| Stskeeps | :wq | 21:43 |
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| Stskeeps | well, at least it seems like all this talk about openness and transparency has gotten on the agenda in some degree :) | 22:42 |
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| RST38h | Does not necessarily translate into any useful action | 22:43 |
| lbt | what should we call the RWG then? | 22:43 |
| lbt | I like "Surrounds" | 22:44 |
| Stskeeps | Redshirts? | 22:44 |
| lbt | <grin> | 22:44 |
| lbt | setting them up for phaser fire? | 22:44 |
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| Stskeeps | RST38h: no, but it means all the bickering is getting noticed :) | 22:47 |
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