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| moblin | does meego still need ssse3? | 08:24 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | yes | 08:27 |
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| Termana | Stskeeps: ping | 09:06 |
| Stskeeps | morn | 09:06 |
| Termana | Stskeeps: Good morning. I downloaded the MeeGo kernel source rpm. Do I need to apply all the patches listed in the directory or just the included .2 patch? | 09:07 |
| Stskeeps | well, see if you can apply the patches, apply yours on top, see if it builds, then we have a winner | 09:07 |
| RST38h | <yawn> | 09:11 |
| Stskeeps | cos then we can just add your patch to the package ;P | 09:11 |
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| Termana | Stskeeps: Ok, I don't understand how the included patches are layed out though. Do I need to patch them all in, or only the ones that start with linux-2.6.33- | 09:12 |
| Termana | They seem to be applying fine so far, so I'll just keep doing it and see from there | 09:15 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | if it breaks | 09:16 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | you get to keep both pieces | 09:16 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | so sayeth the GPL | 09:16 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | ;) | 09:16 |
| Termana | lol | 09:16 |
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| Stskeeps | Termana: the spec file usually tells the order | 09:20 |
| * TSCHAKeee2 is about to do something really cool | 09:20 | |
| TSCHAKeee2 | hehehe | 09:20 |
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| TSCHAKeee2 | as it turns out, the VLC that comes with the SmartQ has the remote control interface baked in.. I'm going to use that as a basis to make a DCE device to control it, and therefore be able to originate and send media to the device from anywhere in the house. | 09:21 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | no streaming, it'll be plumbed via NFS, but preliminary tests are working just fine | 09:22 |
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| koupsaa | hi | 10:24 |
| thiago_home | hi | 10:24 |
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| Termana | Stskeeps: Building, I'll let you know if it all goes well and post a patch file if it does | 10:33 |
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| lbt | morning | 11:22 |
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| Stskeeps | morn lbt | 11:24 |
| lcuk | \o mornin meego | 11:26 |
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| * lbt prods at "osc build <mic2 image>" | 11:36 | |
| lbt | I hate the :s in the OBS | 11:41 |
| Stskeeps | join the club | 11:41 |
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| lbt | tried putting a subdir of a project into a PATH... : seperated | 11:41 |
| * lbt is supposed to fly at 7:30 on monday.... mmm | 11:43 | |
| Stskeeps | tuesday evening here, and i have doubts i will be able to | 11:43 |
| lbt | you should be OK ... flights resume 3pm sunday at the moment | 11:43 |
| Stskeeps | yes, but this keeps on getting prolonged | 11:44 |
| lbt | woo ... syntax error in "build_mic" :) | 11:44 |
| lbt | at least it's executing now :) | 11:44 |
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| lbt | this should make running mic2 as easy as building an OBS pkg | 11:44 |
| lbt | and it'll use stuff from your OBS projects | 11:45 |
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| thiago_home | Southern Norway is still closed | 11:46 |
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| lcuk | for all the whining, iceland feels better now that its big boil has popped | 11:53 |
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| Termana | Stskeeps - http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=614550&postcount=21 | 13:01 |
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| Stskeeps | Termana: ta | 13:17 |
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| Stskeeps | Termana: if i give you some webspace will you avoid using scary sharing sites? :P | 13:26 |
| Termana | Stskeeps: lol! Only thing I had really, plus the fact it was quick and easy | 13:30 |
| Termana | Except the fact that it has ads everywhere and you can hardly find the download button | 13:30 |
| Stskeeps | exactly :P | 13:31 |
| frals | "it was good except for everything bad about it" | 13:35 |
| Termana | frals: :P | 13:37 |
| frals | ;) | 13:37 |
| Termana | Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure that about what I said :P | 13:37 |
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| Termana | thats* | 13:37 |
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| lbt | so mic2 uses dm_snapshot as part of creating live iso images... | 14:52 |
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| th0br0 | ohai everyone. | 16:41 |
| CosmoHill | hi | 16:41 |
| Stskeeps | moo | 16:41 |
| th0br0 | =) | 16:42 |
| th0br0 | not much activity :( | 16:42 |
| CosmoHill | I just downloaded Firefox 3.6.4 :) | 16:43 |
| CosmoHill | it's meant to be able to keep running when one tab dies | 16:43 |
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| CosmoHill | I'd give google chrome a go but it won't run on my laptop | 16:44 |
| th0br0 | I haven't had a tab dying on me before | 16:46 |
| th0br0 | how do you do that? | 16:46 |
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| CosmoHill | Flash | 16:46 |
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| th0br0 | CosmoHill: mh, true :) | 17:16 |
| CosmoHill | "I'm crashing now and taking your history with me" | 17:17 |
| th0br0 | That one pokerpage that opens up when you download from megaupload or so... gotta close it fast or your ff freezes :) | 17:17 |
| CosmoHill | ah yes that one | 17:18 |
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| CosmoHill | th0br0: was it you who said you had sparc computers or was it thiago | 17:25 |
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| th0br0 | CosmoHill: thiago | 17:35 |
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| CosmoHill | http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sun-Sunfire-V240-Server-2x-Ultrasparc-IIIi-2x-1-28Ghz_W0QQitemZ220588462347QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Computing_Networking_SM?hash=item335c18d10b | 17:39 |
| * CosmoHill ponders about getting that | 17:39 | |
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| th0br0 | CosmoHill: why? | 17:40 |
| th0br0 | what's so good about sparc ? | 17:40 |
| CosmoHill | I'm a developer for CLFS and one of the architextures we support is sparc | 17:41 |
| th0br0 | ah ok | 17:41 |
| CosmoHill | and it would be nice to have something that can do GCC within 24 hours :) | 17:41 |
| th0br0 | ;) | 17:42 |
| CosmoHill | no really my current sparc computer took about 25 hours to do gcc with tests | 17:42 |
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| th0br0 | ah ok | 17:43 |
| CosmoHill | plus it comes with free geek points | 17:44 |
| th0br0 | true | 17:45 |
| Terje_ | CosmoHill, depends on how you value time and sanity. | 17:45 |
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| CosmoHill | Terje_: I'm single so I have both | 17:50 |
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| CosmoHill | I already have x86, x86_64, powerpc, ultrasparc (slow) and a HP PA-RISC :) | 17:52 |
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| Terje_ | CosmoHill, ok, check. :-) | 17:53 |
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| CosmoHill | I only got x86)64 in jan I i don't use it to much | 17:54 |
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| Terje_ | CosmoHill, hmm, aren't all Intels 64-bit nowadays? Do you mean Itanium? | 17:55 |
| CosmoHill | nope | 17:55 |
| CosmoHill | intel Core 2 Duo | 17:55 |
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| th0br0 | most xenons are too | 18:05 |
| CosmoHill | I got a Core 2 Duo in jan and that's my first 64bit x86 processor | 18:05 |
| lcuk | CosmoHill, so, you would have been happy with a 33bit processor | 18:06 |
| CosmoHill | yeah | 18:06 |
| lcuk | seems reasonable :D | 18:06 |
| Termana | Your forgetting Atom chips which are generally not 64bit (though I think there is one model out that is now 64bit) | 18:06 |
| CosmoHill | to give you an idea, the last computer I got new was in 2005 | 18:07 |
| CosmoHill | since then I've been given broken computers / parts / 2nd hand | 18:07 |
| CosmoHill | my main laptop is a powerpc G4 | 18:07 |
| Termana | I run on a 900 mhz ULV Celeron day-in day-out :P | 18:08 |
| CosmoHill | desktop is a P4 (non-HT) | 18:08 |
| CosmoHill | hehe | 18:08 |
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| CosmoHill | my server is a 850Mhz P3 | 18:08 |
| lcuk | i used to run x41 clocklocked at its 600mhz powersave | 18:08 |
| lcuk | now the new laptop wont go that slow \@/ | 18:08 |
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| lcuk | so wasteful | 18:09 |
| CosmoHill | my new laptop goes to 1.6Ghz in power saving mode | 18:09 |
| CosmoHill | from 2.0Ghz normal | 18:09 |
| Termana | You know what you guys need | 18:09 |
| CosmoHill | if i turn off 2 of the 3 hard drives I can get my server down to 50w | 18:09 |
| CosmoHill | Termana: girlfriends? | 18:09 |
| Termana | SOME UNDERCLOCKING KARNALS!!!!!oneoneone111!!!!oneone!1!!!!!one!!one | 18:10 |
| Termana | CosmoHill: errr... that too | 18:10 |
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| lcuk | Termana, its ubuntu that wont offer it | 18:11 |
| lcuk | im sure i could get the clock right down | 18:11 |
| lcuk | i used to run my amd thunderbird underclocked too | 18:11 |
| Termana | Mind you, I don't think frequency is managed on x86 like it is on ARM in the linux kernel (frequency tables), but I might be wrong | 18:12 |
| Termana | lcuk: change distros? | 18:12 |
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| lcuk | i will run meego once it gets buildable on sane processors | 18:12 |
| lcuk | ie intel get finger out of arse and stop depending on atoms | 18:13 |
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| lcuk | i have a big netbook | 18:13 |
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| CosmoHill | will meego come with vesa support so we can have basic graphics so that we can open the web brower and download the graphics card drivers? | 18:27 |
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| TSCHAKeee | lcuk: atoms are sane processors | 18:34 |
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| lcuk | TSCHAKeee, a minute spec in comparison to the sheer overwhelming number of viable cpus and chipsets in the world | 18:37 |
| TSCHAKeee | so port the damn thing to MIPS | 18:38 |
| TSCHAKeee | and SH4 | 18:38 |
| TSCHAKeee | :) | 18:38 |
| * RST38h laughs satanically at the mention of MIPS | 18:38 | |
| RST38h | Do you want use to port it to Z80 with that? =) | 18:38 |
| TSCHAKeee | hey, i've designed machines with Z80s on them :P | 18:39 |
| TSCHAKeee | :) | 18:39 |
| CosmoHill | i can't remember if MIPS or ARM is harder to find | 18:39 |
| TSCHAKeee | both are everywhere | 18:39 |
| TSCHAKeee | although ARM is more everywhere | 18:39 |
| Termana | LIES | 18:39 |
| TSCHAKeee | just look in your cell phone | 18:39 |
| TSCHAKeee | or your set top box | 18:39 |
| TSCHAKeee | or most recent TVs | 18:40 |
| CosmoHill | i was looking at desktop / netbook / nettop things | 18:40 |
| CosmoHill | for dev work | 18:40 |
| Termana | TSCHAKeee: I think you'll find most cell phones that interest people these days are using ARM | 18:40 |
| TSCHAKeee | yup, that's what i said | 18:40 |
| TSCHAKeee | sorry, i should have pointed arrows back to ARM is more everywhere | 18:41 |
| TSCHAKeee | :P | 18:41 |
| Termana | On a side note, look to your left and right - you'll find 2 ARMs and most people on earth have these. Lots of ARM | 18:41 |
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| TSCHAKeee | yup | 18:41 |
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| RST38h | MIPS is dead slow in embedded scenarios | 18:41 |
| Termana | :P | 18:41 |
| TSCHAKeee | MIPS wasn't designed for it | 18:41 |
| TSCHAKeee | it spent most of its life being tuned for speed scenarios trying to compete with Alpha | 18:41 |
| RST38h | MIPS was designed for systems where memory clock was about the same as CPU clock | 18:41 |
| TSCHAKeee | *nod* | 18:42 |
| RST38h | In today's systems, MIPS is *PAIN* | 18:42 |
| TSCHAKeee | yup | 18:42 |
| TSCHAKeee | and yet MIPS is trying to reinvent themselves as an embedded solution | 18:42 |
| TSCHAKeee | and managing SOMEHOW to get into a few set tops | 18:43 |
| Termana | Didn't MIPS get into some Android tablet thing thats suppose to be cheap? | 18:43 |
| TSCHAKeee | yup | 18:43 |
| TSCHAKeee | and into a scientific atlanta set top that's running android | 18:43 |
| CosmoHill | i think my router is MIPS | 18:44 |
| RST38h | Yes, you can build a MIPS gadget at 50-75% of the cost compared to an ARM9/ARM11 gadget | 18:44 |
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| RST38h | But nobody will buy that slow crap, Android or no android | 18:44 |
| CosmoHill | but at 50~75% of the performace? | 18:44 |
| Termana | RST38h: Not really helpful on the price part if it runs like shit | 18:45 |
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| abhi | Hi Guys... Is there any time frame on release date of Meego SDK? | 18:51 |
| javispedro | who mods comments in meego.com drupal? | 18:52 |
| javispedro | http://meego.com/community/events/2010/linux-foundation-collaboration-summit | 18:52 |
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| tmr1 | hi all. what about sound in n8x0 with latest kernels? | 18:57 |
| tmr1 | another question. what bt chip is in n800(n810?). can't find. | 19:01 |
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| lupine_85 | I think most routers are mips | 19:01 |
| lupine_85 | I know mine is | 19:01 |
| CosmoHill | lupine_85: did I ask you if you have been on LFS? | 19:02 |
| lupine_85 | you haven't. what's LFS? | 19:02 |
| tmr1 | most devices in my home is mips, only IT and phone on arm | 19:02 |
| lupine_85 | linux from scratch? | 19:02 |
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| CosmoHill | lupine_85: yes | 19:03 |
| lupine_85 | I had a minor play many moons ago. I don't have the time for that kind of tomfoolery these days | 19:03 |
| CosmoHill | You from florda? | 19:04 |
| lupine_85 | not even close | 19:04 |
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| CosmoHill | then you're not Lupine from LFS :) | 19:04 |
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| tmr1 | can anybody explain, what difference between oldstyle omap video and dss2 in latest kernels | 19:10 |
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| Cosmo[PB] | th0br0: you know I said I downloaded firefox 3.6.4 pre-release | 19:12 |
| Cosmo[PB] | 2 and a half hours later it becomes the stable release | 19:13 |
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| th0br0 | ;) CosmoHill | 20:06 |
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| Stskeeps | GAN900: i also think it's a balance of there not being a good start without a proper OS to have a project around.. hence the 'real soon now' | 20:18 |
| GAN900 | Yeah, lot of nasty factors. | 20:19 |
| th0br0 | huh? | 20:19 |
| Stskeeps | th0br0: continuation of discussion in #maemo | 20:19 |
| th0br0 | ah ok | 20:19 |
| Stskeeps | GAN900: i must admit even with 'open' projects, this has been a factor too | 20:19 |
| Stskeeps | like i'm not opening up to mer^2 people, for instance | 20:20 |
| Stskeeps | isn't that easy challenge they have, i think | 20:20 |
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| GAN900 | Stskeeps, just wish there would be less noise about "open" if not. | 20:21 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 20:22 |
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| CosmoHill | I'm confused | 22:55 |
| * thiago_home gives CosmoHill a deconfuser | 22:55 | |
| CosmoHill | my laptop has firefox 3.6.4 for mac, but it says copyright 2009 | 22:55 |
| CosmoHill | and 3.6.4 isn't listed on mozilla.org | 22:55 |
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| CosmoHill | dammit | 23:05 |
| CosmoHill | my usb webcam stops working for no reason | 23:06 |
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| CosmoHill | "This USB device will work better if you plug it into a USB 2 port" | 23:11 |
| CosmoHill | it's internal! | 23:11 |
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| lcuk | hah CosmoHill | 23:12 |
| lcuk | you could upgrade to linux you know | 23:13 |
| CosmoHill | dammit | 23:14 |
| CosmoHill | my power cable was slightly out | 23:14 |
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| lcuk2 | any changes someone can make a bug report out of this m.c thread: its got the basis for a patch in comments: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?p=441#post441 | 23:34 |
| lcuk2 | any chance | 23:34 |
| javispedro | it's kinda a bit of nitpicking.... | 23:35 |
| lcuk2 | not really | 23:35 |
| lcuk2 | its the principle | 23:36 |
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| CosmoHill | http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/10911/run-xp-mode-on-windows-7-machines-without-hardware-virtualization/ oooo | 23:45 |
| CosmoHill | I have one of two intel processors that don't have VT in the range | 23:45 |
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