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| Myrtti | I don't know how I'll manage with the last session | 00:20 |
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| thiago_home | what is on now? | 00:20 |
| Myrtti | the camera holds 2 hours of video, and copying it to HD takes about 15-20 mins | 00:20 |
| Myrtti | thiago_home: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/lfcs2010/meego-workgroup#holtmann | 00:21 |
| maclaver | Thiago_home: bluetooth/tethering. | 00:22 |
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| GAN900 | Connectivity | 00:23 |
| javispedro | I at least would've been OK with non-HD video, no need to. | 00:24 |
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| javispedro | now you're gonna spend a eternity recoding it :) | 00:24 |
| GAN900 | It wont be up until 8 months later like Jamie's videos from the Summit. ;) | 00:25 |
| Myrtti | javispedro: it's a Flipcam, I have the magnificent UI of four buttons. On/Off, Play, Delete and Record. It can do Zoom as well. | 00:25 |
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| Myrtti | ie. there is no option for non-HD | 00:25 |
| javispedro | ah, well, the iCam. :) | 00:26 |
| javispedro | well, thanks :) | 00:26 |
| lcuk | Myrtti :) simple logical ux :) | 00:26 |
| Myrtti | I don't complain, I got it for free at WhereCamp in return of recording every session we attended with it | 00:26 |
| lcuk | meego camera edition! | 00:26 |
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| Myrtti | oof. code. | 01:39 |
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| CosmoHill | :o | 01:40 |
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| thiago_home | it's usually the intern | 01:41 |
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| Myrtti | meh | 01:47 |
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| Myrtti | DawnFoster: please repeat the questions from the audience? | 02:19 |
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| Myrtti | I love IRC backchannels ♥ | 02:20 |
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| meegn00b | hi guys | 02:21 |
| meegn00b | I've been trying to run withthe netbook guild, but it doesn't work | 02:21 |
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| meegn00b | missing: /usr/bin/liveint | 02:22 |
| CosmoHill | that's correct | 02:22 |
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| CosmoHill | it's just broken :) | 02:22 |
| meegn00b | CosmoHill: thanks. any solution? I'd really liek to give it a go | 02:22 |
| Myrtti | gah, Sakari holds the mic miles away from his mouth | 02:22 |
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| GAN900 | l10n BoF | 03:05 |
| Myrtti | I'm not recording this | 03:07 |
| Myrtti | not enough space on the camera | 03:07 |
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| h89t | using the netbook usb img. booted and logged in. now what? where's the sexy GUI? no startx... hmm... | 03:25 |
| glinpus | that's it for now | 03:26 |
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| meegn00b | h89t: yip; it seems broken | 03:26 |
| meegn00b | h89t: was hoping to try it myself | 03:27 |
| h89t | yawn. 392 meg dl for a knoppix v 0.0.0.0.0.01? thx | 03:29 |
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| toefraz | hey guys. i just installed the moblin-ivi release. i was wondering if someone could tell me what packages I need to install to get the moblin-netbook-ux installed. right now it's just a plain xfce desktop | 03:33 |
| glinpus | ivi? | 03:33 |
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| toefraz | in-vehicle infotainment. it's going on a infotainment center i'm building for a car | 03:35 |
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| toefraz | i had to install it to get the IEGD drivers for my poulsbo chipset, but i would like to have the regular moblin ui on it instead of a plain xfce | 03:37 |
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| ToArtist | HI,who use EsBox under windows,when I set share folders with vmware,the Cause: The mount appeared to succeed but it is still not accessible | 05:00 |
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| Guest27759 | how to build the meego using the OBS, anyone can give a hit about this? | 05:10 |
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| amjad | the only hint is here http://wiki.meego.com/Build_System | 05:11 |
| amjad | and obs from meego is not open yet | 05:11 |
| amjad | http://bugzilla.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=615 | 05:12 |
| Guest27759 | but the meego source is available, we want to build it against a Arm9 device | 05:13 |
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| ToArtist | how to build the meego under windows?? | 05:14 |
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| Guest27759 | It seems now we can only build the meego from the scratch | 05:14 |
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| ml-mobile | best way to build meego is under Linux, unless you're real good with cygwin... | 05:16 |
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| mamoul | wow | 05:25 |
| mamoul | lots of people here | 05:25 |
| mamoul | I tried booting the preview usb image but nothing comes up | 05:25 |
| mamoul | is that supposed to happen | 05:26 |
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| amjad | i got it booting from livecd | 05:34 |
| amjad | though X does not work but i can develop packages there | 05:34 |
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| _ToArtist_ | Hi,who knows what's the develop Tools for meego,I want to develop meego App with Qt under windows,what's the develop Tool I can use??? | 07:14 |
| ShadowJK | proably madde | 07:16 |
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| _ToArtist_ | I don't have N900 phone,may I debug my App in madde?? | 07:21 |
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| ShadowJK | meego runs on netbooks too | 07:26 |
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| _ToArtist_ | so good | 07:29 |
| _ToArtist_ | so I can install it in VMware? | 07:29 |
| ShadowJK | I don't know if it works in vmware | 07:30 |
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| _ToArtist_ | o,thanks ShadowJk.Now my problom is I want to explant my app from windows desktop to phone,I want to find the best tools in the future | 07:35 |
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| _ToArtist_ | next month I should complete it | 07:36 |
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| _ToArtist_ | as you said,I want to use QtCreator + MADDE+ vmware, test for maemo and meego | 07:38 |
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| ml-mobile | go for the hat trick and use virtualbox | 08:02 |
| ml-mobile | open tools! | 08:02 |
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| _ToArtist_ | ok,virtualbox | 08:33 |
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| amjad | where the heck is netbook repe?? | 09:18 |
| amjad | err repo | 09:18 |
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| ipodtouchfan | hello | 10:24 |
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| Stskeeps | lo | 10:25 |
| ipodtouchfan | is my netbook hp mini 1000 mie good to go | 10:25 |
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| ipodtouchfan | is my netbook hp mini 1000 mie good to go | 10:26 |
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| ipodtouchfan | anyone | 10:26 |
| Stskeeps | not sure, give some hardware specs? | 10:27 |
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| timeless_mbp | try it from a usb stick? | 10:28 |
| timeless_mbp | or mmc | 10:28 |
| ipodtouchfan | how | 10:28 |
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| ipodtouchfan | stop that | 10:29 |
| ipodtouchfan | help | 10:30 |
| Stskeeps | ipodtouchfan: i'd wait for meego 1.0 or 1.1 | 10:31 |
| ipodtouchfan | anyone helps me i'll give greenpoison beta for debain (jailbreak) | 10:31 |
| ipodtouchfan | y | 10:31 |
| TigerTael | wtf | 10:31 |
| Stskeeps | who needs to jailbreak their devices? ;) | 10:32 |
| ipodtouchfan | what | 10:32 |
| ipodtouchfan | just want to write meego to usb to try it | 10:33 |
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| Stskeeps | ipodtouchfan: currently it only shows a console login, so not much fun | 10:34 |
| ipodtouchfan | well when realise | 10:35 |
| Stskeeps | may-ish | 10:36 |
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| ipodtouchfan | see ya this isn't the os for me as of yet | 10:36 |
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| TigerTael | urgh, those people. | 10:38 |
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| TigerTael | page closed... haha | 10:39 |
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| lbt | it appears that meego doesn't have hal | 11:14 |
| Stskeeps | like ubuntu won't either | 11:14 |
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| lbt | Is there a "MeeGo Gotchas - so you thought this would be easier" page anywhere? | 11:19 |
| Stskeeps | not yet | 11:20 |
| Stskeeps | making one? | 11:20 |
| Stskeeps | ;) | 11:20 |
| lbt | or "Now you know why it's called the bleeding edge" page ? | 11:20 |
| lbt | nah OBS has this amazing Substitute: feature | 11:20 |
| lbt | Substitute: hal-devel bash | 11:21 |
| lbt | fixes all kinds of dependency issues | 11:21 |
| lbt | what could go wrong | 11:21 |
| Stskeeps | http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-cellular/libcmtspeechdata - cool | 11:22 |
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| lbt | gah, what's the security FW called | 11:31 |
| lbt | aegis | 11:31 |
| lbt | not mentioned on the wiki or until slide 6/10 !! | 11:31 |
| Stskeeps | http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-6-platform-security | 11:31 |
| X-Fade | Manifest files are Aegis at least. | 11:32 |
| lbt | http://wiki.meego.com/Gotchas | 11:34 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: was announced on 4 march by quim | 11:47 |
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| slaine | morning all | 11:54 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: where? | 12:03 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: on meego-dev | 12:03 |
| Stskeeps | it was a 2-3 liner | 12:03 |
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| lbt | a search for sdk in email subject didn't turn it up | 12:03 |
| Stskeeps | [MeeGo-dev] meego-sdk list created | 12:04 |
| lbt | oh, I just don't have that email then | 12:05 |
| slaine | quim mentioned it the other day | 12:05 |
| lbt | he did, I joined | 12:05 |
| slaine | I should probably do that too | 12:05 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: http://blip.tv/file/3491206?filename=Stskeeps-Mer017testing11OnAJogglerWith3dAcceleration457.flv | 12:06 |
| slaine | VERY nice | 12:07 |
| slaine | well done | 12:07 |
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| Stskeeps | slaine: now if only qt would behave.. | 12:13 |
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| Jaffa | Stskeeps: Think the MeeGo folks in general are going to have to look at that for GMA500? | 12:19 |
| Stskeeps | i have worries about gma500, but hopes that intel does the right thing and provides drivers for it in meego | 12:19 |
| lcuk | the gma500 is the powervr chip on bigger devices isnt it | 12:20 |
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| Jaffa | Stskeeps: ISTR arjan or greg-kh (or someone) saying GMA500 wouldn't be supported in MeeGo :-( | 12:23 |
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| Stskeeps | Jaffa: well, it can be supported with IEGD for all i care :P | 12:24 |
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| lbt | I wonder if openpeak will be changing their HW design then? | 12:26 |
| slaine | it's such a pity that GMA500 ended up the way it has | 12:26 |
| lbt | since the openpeak device was one of the 5/6 shown on the slides | 12:26 |
| slaine | it's such a nice capable chip on paper | 12:26 |
| Jaffa | Stskeeps: IEGD build process looks horrible - http://www.nanoant.com/linux/compiling-kernel-iegd-10x-module-for-any-linux-distribution | 12:27 |
| slaine | Or if you use 2 year old software. | 12:27 |
| Stskeeps | Jaffa: it isn't that bad in practice | 12:27 |
| slaine | Jaffa: and that's not taking into account the Xorg 1.6 dependency on the ddx driver | 12:27 |
| Jaffa | Stskeeps: But it's the Xorg which kills you? | 12:27 |
| Stskeeps | that too | 12:27 |
| ShadowJK | lbt, no it's fine for openpeak | 12:28 |
| Stskeeps | didn't openpeak want to go into meego too? | 12:28 |
| Jaffa | Stskeeps: Do the Squeeze Xorg 1.6 packages from http://silicone.homelinux.org/2010/04/11/building-xserver-1-6-for-xorg-7-5/ work? | 12:28 |
| Stskeeps | Jaffa: hmm, didn't try | 12:29 |
| Jaffa | Stskeeps: Oh, doh - I'm thinking still Debian based system (Mer/Ubuntu) rather than RPM; but git repo is probably handy either way | 12:29 |
| * Stskeeps bookmarks | 12:29 | |
| ShadowJK | Stskeeps, yeah but like, looking at the pretty pictures with boxes and arrows, MeeGo is fine with manufacturers taking MeeGo, adding binary blob drivers, making an image onto their device and calling it MeeGo.. so I think arjan's statement meant the base image isn't going to have GMA500 support | 12:30 |
| ShadowJK | since base MeeGo is supposed to be open? | 12:30 |
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| Stskeeps | ShadowJK: that makes sense though | 12:30 |
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| Jaffa | Stskeeps: I like to think my Google-fu can add value :-) | 12:30 |
| Stskeeps | i really wouldn't mind just having a repo from intel with gma500 drivers | 12:31 |
| Stskeeps | that's fine with me | 12:31 |
| ShadowJK | Considering the pain in actually getting a hold of some of these powervr* drivers though :/ | 12:31 |
| Jaffa | Stskeeps: Ditto; I want a shiny device running open apps and UI; I don't really care about the drivers as long as they're usable with the open components selected | 12:33 |
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| Khertan_Home | Stskeeps, i see you mer video ... very nice ! | 12:33 |
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| slaine | I'm sure the IVI version of meego will have to address this, as it's still the same hardware that intel provide as their IVI platform | 12:35 |
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| sri_ | does anyone tell me where can i find the generic arm based meego rootfs? | 12:40 |
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| Stskeeps | sri_: grab a n900 open one, quite close to bare | 12:41 |
| sri_ | stskeeps: you mean to say meego-codedrop-arm-n900-201003311626.tar.gz from http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/devel/n900/images/? | 12:42 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 12:42 |
| sri_ | why it is mentioned as codedrop if it is rootfs? | 12:42 |
| Stskeeps | marketing | 12:43 |
| sri_ | does it has X also? | 12:43 |
| Stskeeps | it is rootfs | 12:43 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 12:43 |
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| sri_ | ok thanks... | 12:43 |
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| Stskeeps | sri_: did you ever figure out your gles issues? | 12:50 |
| sri_ | no...no more looked into maemo | 12:56 |
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| sri_ | now trying to bringup meego | 12:56 |
| sri_ | :) | 12:56 |
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| Stskeeps | good direction :) | 12:57 |
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| achipa | anyone with a quick pointer as to what version of python do we have in meego ? | 13:09 |
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| Stskeeps | 2.6.4 it looks like in trunk | 13:11 |
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| * thiago realises that there's an @htc.com email on meego-dev | 13:11 | |
| Stskeeps | yeah, same guy i kicked out the other day for not getting how to use a pastebin :P | 13:12 |
| Stskeeps | (he came back) | 13:12 |
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| slaine | lol | 13:12 |
| slaine | Stskeeps: any ideas when this repo will be publicaly available ? | 13:13 |
| slaine | http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/devel/netbook/repo/ia32/os//repodata/repomd.xml | 13:13 |
| Stskeeps | no idea sorry | 13:14 |
| slaine | I'm trying to use, http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/devel/trunk/repo/ia32/os/image-config/developer.ks with image-creator and it's depending on that repo | 13:14 |
| thiago | Stskeeps: that rings a bell | 13:14 |
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| amjad | This bug says it is resolved , but netbook repo is not available, does intel/nokia people think only there employees can file bugs?? | 13:16 |
| amjad | http://bugzilla.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=650 | 13:16 |
| Stskeeps | amjad: i am wondering at times too | 13:17 |
| Stskeeps | amjad: note it in the bug, i guess | 13:17 |
| achipa | Stskeeps: thx | 13:18 |
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| sri_ | stskeeps: what is the login name for meego release? | 13:24 |
| Stskeeps | sri_: root/meego | 13:24 |
| slaine | I'd already logged a similar bug amjad | 13:27 |
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| sri_ | thanks....how can i start x? when i give startx, its telling command not found | 13:27 |
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| Stskeeps | Xorg & | 13:27 |
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| slaine | amjad: haha, we probably submitted that bug at the same time | 13:28 |
| slaine | you just pipped me to the post as mine is 652 | 13:29 |
| Termana | Ok, maybe someone can explain this to me. | 13:30 |
| amjad | lol slaine | 13:30 |
| Termana | How is it you can have an OPEN project that has bug reports that only certain people are AUTHORIZED to view | 13:30 |
| slaine | Termana: don't start me off again | 13:31 |
| Stskeeps | Termana: security bugs is the normal policy, the rest is just $@% | 13:31 |
| Stskeeps | as meego.com seems to have intel hw related stuff too | 13:31 |
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| Termana | I can see the reasoning behind having security bugs closed off, just as long as there is a way to gain authorization to these bugs if someone wanted to (as long as the person had no malicious intent). | 13:34 |
| Termana | But, I would take a guess and say this is not currently the case | 13:35 |
| Termana | Based on the current state of openness | 13:35 |
| Stskeeps | there's some things that needs to be cleared up, yes | 13:35 |
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| slaine | have to head off early | 14:02 |
| slaine | I'll probably be back on later tonight | 14:02 |
| Stskeeps | cy | 14:03 |
| Stskeeps | a | 14:03 |
| slaine | laters | 14:03 |
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| timeless_mbp | so um.... | 17:01 |
| timeless_mbp | UI feature of the day... | 17:01 |
| timeless_mbp | how many characters would people here use to represent the year two-thousand? | 17:02 |
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| thiago | timeless_mbp: two | 17:03 |
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| timeless_mbp | how? | 17:04 |
| Stskeeps | 2k | 17:04 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:04 |
| timeless_mbp | ok, how about the year "a space odyssey" ? | 17:04 |
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| timeless_mbp | ok, how many characters would people here use to represent the year two-thousand-and-one? | 17:06 |
| frals | 4 | 17:09 |
| timeless_mbp | thank you | 17:09 |
| timeless_mbp | would you be surprised to hear that the clever people here decided to use 5 instead? | 17:09 |
| frals | 5? the fuck? | 17:10 |
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| lcuk | future proofing | 17:11 |
| timeless_mbp | no, the first digit is a 2 | 17:11 |
| leinir | signed? | 17:11 |
| timeless_mbp | nope :) | 17:11 |
| * thiago was thinking of MM | 17:11 | |
| timeless_mbp | you're not thinking inside the right wrong box! | 17:11 |
| leinir | : ? | 17:12 |
| * suihkulokki thinks timeless_mbp is ranting at the wrong forum | 17:12 | |
| timeless_mbp | nah, you guys will someday enjoy this ap | 17:12 |
| timeless_mbp | we aren't shipping it for maemo5 :) | 17:13 |
| lcuk | timeless_mbp, dont some people/cultures/religions have odd date standards and we are in about the year 11000 or something | 17:13 |
| timeless_mbp | lcuk: the year being represented is roughly MMI | 17:14 |
| timeless_mbp | and it's using numbers which normal people would recognize | 17:14 |
| lcuk | then yes, its wrong | 17:14 |
| timeless_mbp | you still haven't guessed how they presented it :) | 17:14 |
| lcuk | leinir, wouldnt signed years need 6 characters | 17:14 |
| lcuk | 2001BC | 17:15 |
| lcuk | 2003AD | 17:15 |
| leinir | lcuk: Nah, that'd be culture specific - just need the sign :) | 17:15 |
| timeless_mbp | come on guys | 17:16 |
| timeless_mbp | i asked a different group and they figured it out fairly quickly | 17:16 |
| Jaffa | timeless_mbp: Extra character to give it space | 17:16 |
| Jaffa | timeless_mbp: So that it looks pretty | 17:16 |
| timeless_mbp | Jaffa: "2,000" | 17:17 |
| Jaffa | timeless_mbp: Oh FFS | 17:17 |
| timeless_mbp | pretty … shitty | 17:17 |
| lcuk | offs | 17:17 |
| timeless_mbp | yes | 17:17 |
| lcuk | DOUBLE facepalm | 17:17 |
| Jaffa | timeless_mbp: I suddently wonder if our web app will do that if a year is shown standalone | 17:17 |
| timeless_mbp | which web app? | 17:17 |
| frals | lol | 17:18 |
| timeless_mbp | i must say, i was amazed by the number of bugs in this startup wizard-calendar-time picker stuff | 17:18 |
| timeless_mbp | but i'm only going to share one bug today | 17:18 |
| pippin | Today is Sweetmorn, the 33rd day of Discord in the YOLD 3176 | 17:18 |
| timeless_mbp | that's enough to scare people for a week, or maybe even a month | 17:18 |
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| CosmoHill | trigger:~ nate$ shitdown -h now | 18:30 |
| CosmoHill | -bash: shitdown: command not found | 18:30 |
| CosmoHill | <.< | 18:30 |
| CosmoHill | >.> | 18:30 |
| drizztbsd | shutdown? =.= | 18:30 |
| CosmoHill | indeed | 18:30 |
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| Zeikko | Running meego first time on a asus eee pc. Runs nicely! | 19:18 |
| w00t_ | Zeikko: what model eee, out of interest? | 19:18 |
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| Zeikko | umm. 900, cant remember in more detail. But the newer one with Atom processor | 19:19 |
| w00t_ | cool :) | 19:19 |
| Zeikko | 091 | 19:19 |
| Zeikko | 901 | 19:19 |
| * TSCHAKeee2 is also running it on a 1005HA | 19:19 | |
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| Zeikko | The WiFi is not working though. | 19:20 |
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| slaine | Zeikko: as in you got the login prompt ok ? | 19:37 |
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| AlexHawk | тест | 20:19 |
| AlexHawk | test | 20:19 |
| AlexHawk | hello friends | 20:19 |
| CosmoHill | it's a hawk or some kind | 20:20 |
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| CosmoHill | *of | 20:21 |
| RomainK | So what's all the channel spam about? | 20:21 |
| CosmoHill | what spam? | 20:21 |
| RomainK | AlexHawk going into some channel, going "join #meego" and then leaving.. | 20:21 |
| RomainK | Or is it just user error? | 20:22 |
| CosmoHill | well his first word was "test" | 20:22 |
| CosmoHill | so maybe user error | 20:22 |
| RomainK | Fair enough. | 20:22 |
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| RomainK | I'm not sure which direction was worse, assuming it was spam, or assuming it was user error. :) | 20:24 |
| CosmoHill | you can teach susers | 20:24 |
| CosmoHill | users* | 20:24 |
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| CosmoHill | either way you're here | 20:25 |
| Stskeeps | he prolly meant /join | 20:25 |
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| RomainK | I am here, indeed. Though I don't have any atom-based handsets/netbooks/n9000s, sadly. | 20:27 |
| CosmoHill | nor do I | 20:27 |
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| RomainK | mm, what else does it run on? | 20:29 |
| Stskeeps | armv5 and up | 20:29 |
| CosmoHill | and any x86 with SSSE3 | 20:30 |
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| TSCHAKeee2 | note the "3" | 20:30 |
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| CosmoHill | and the three 'S's | 20:31 |
| RomainK | and the E, too? | 20:31 |
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| CosmoHill | i mean there is SSE3 and SSSE3 | 20:31 |
| RomainK | ah | 20:32 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | *facepalm* | 20:32 |
| CosmoHill | I didn't know there was a difference ether at first | 20:32 |
| RomainK | TSCHAKeee2: sorry :) | 20:33 |
| CosmoHill | I'd give moblin a go but I have an nvidia graphics card | 20:33 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | don't be | 20:33 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | ;) | 20:33 |
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| RomainK | ah well, maybe when I have the disposable income | 20:37 |
| CosmoHill | disposable income? what's that? :p | 20:38 |
| Tm_T | CosmoHill: when you win millions in lottery | 20:39 |
| RomainK | Or, you know, when you're not paying off the mistakes you spent the last four years making. | 20:39 |
| Tm_T | that too | 20:40 |
| CosmoHill | university? | 20:40 |
| RomainK | Girlfriend. | 20:40 |
| Tm_T | glad I never were into that girlfriend-thing | 20:40 |
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| CosmoHill | hehe | 20:41 |
| Tm_T | not to mention, my wife wouldn't like that | 20:41 |
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| CosmoHill | girlfriend this is my wife | 20:52 |
| CosmoHill | girl: ex-wife? | 20:52 |
| CosmoHill | no no, current | 20:52 |
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