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| luke-jr | can't find any docs on how to build MeeGo... | 00:34 |
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| CosmoHill | you mean download the RPMs and install them? | 00:40 |
| CosmoHill | or compile them yourself? | 00:40 |
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| luke-jr | CosmoHill: compile the base OS from scratch | 00:42 |
| luke-jr | to begin porting to a new platform | 00:42 |
| CosmoHill | I think you'd basically have to download the src.rpm files and recompile them | 00:43 |
| luke-jr | :/ | 00:43 |
| luke-jr | what about these .ks files? | 00:43 |
| CosmoHill | i think they are to make images from the pre-compiled rpms | 00:44 |
| CosmoHill | what platform are you thinking of? | 00:44 |
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| luke-jr | CosmoHill: I'm doing the EFIKA MX port | 00:45 |
| CosmoHill | I've not heard of it | 00:45 |
| luke-jr | based on Freescale i.MX515 | 00:45 |
| luke-jr | a Cortex A8 | 00:45 |
| CosmoHill | ooo | 00:45 |
| CosmoHill | have you ported anything else to that arch? | 00:46 |
| luke-jr | well, I *was* working on Mer, until it got superceded by Nokia to MeeGo ... | 00:46 |
| CosmoHill | I'll take that as a bitter yes | 00:46 |
| luke-jr | ;) | 00:47 |
| luke-jr | I don't especially care for either platform; I use Gentoo | 00:47 |
| luke-jr | Mer was GTK-centric, which I didn't like; MeeGo switches it to Qt, but uses RPM :( | 00:47 |
| CosmoHill | well the RPM should be written for both ARM and x86 | 00:48 |
| CosmoHill | the Cortex is ARM right? | 00:48 |
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| thiago_home | Cortex-A8 is ARM | 00:50 |
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| thiago_home | it's the one powering the N900 too | 00:50 |
| CosmoHill | so no porting will be required? | 00:50 |
| thiago_home | no | 00:50 |
| CosmoHill | dammit | 00:50 |
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| luke-jr | ... | 00:52 |
| luke-jr | other than drivers, which is what I was expecting anyway | 00:52 |
| CosmoHill | should just be able to recompile the src.rpm files for that arch | 00:53 |
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| hagisbasheruk | whats the user/password for the netbook usb image ? | 03:49 |
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| ml-mobile | meego | 03:57 |
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| hagisbasheruk | tried meego/meego , meego/password , meego/(blank) | 04:00 |
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| Maulkin | hcarrega: tried root/moblin ? | 04:29 |
| Maulkin | hagisbasheruk even | 04:29 |
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| steventao | Hi all | 07:01 |
| steventao | I have some problem when I try to create my Meego image. | 07:02 |
| steventao | Error: failed to create image : Failed to find package 'fastinit' : No package(s) available to install | 07:03 |
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| steventao | I don't know how the fix it. | 07:03 |
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| trip0 | http://forums.openice.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=776 | 08:56 |
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| -farmer.freenode.net- [freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots -- please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup | 09:55 | |
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| Anss| | morning | 10:02 |
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| Stskeeps | morning | 10:03 |
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| Maulkin | Afternoon :) | 10:04 |
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| astur | hi! | 10:42 |
| astur | i would like to know how to start to do translations en my language | 10:43 |
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| Stskeeps | astur: look into the localization team | 10:45 |
| astur | thanks, but that's the problem, I don't find the link... :S | 10:45 |
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| Stskeeps | wiki.meego.com | 10:49 |
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| steventao | Hi all. | 11:31 |
| steventao | Could I create a Meego image on ubuntu 9.10? | 11:32 |
| Tumi_ | you should be able to | 11:33 |
| Stskeeps | steventao: there is a longer discussion about this on meego-dev | 11:33 |
| Tumi_ | add this to /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://repo.meego.com/tools/repo/xUbuntu_9.10/ / | 11:33 |
| Tumi_ | then you should have package 'mic2' | 11:34 |
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| steventao | I got the mic2 | 11:36 |
| steventao | but when I try to make the image | 11:36 |
| steventao | Error: failed to create image : Failed to find package 'fastinit' : No package(s) available to install | 11:36 |
| steventao | There are some error message | 11:37 |
| steventao | I don't know why. | 11:37 |
| Tumi_ | sorry, haven't had time to test it yet myself :( | 11:37 |
| steventao | That's fine. I am still trying it. | 11:38 |
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| Tumi_ | steventao: great, let me know how it goes! | 11:42 |
| Tumi_ | I guess I have to struggle similar issues this week... | 11:42 |
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| steventao | Ha, I do what I can | 11:50 |
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| hagisbasheruk | whats the user/password for the netbook core image , i have tried meego/(blank pass) , meego/password , meego/meego ,meego/moblin | 11:52 |
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| hagisbasheruk | ahh , found it in comments , user is root and password is meego , brb going to try | 12:00 |
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| slaine | morning all | 12:01 |
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| exman | Anybody knows IME of Meego ? | 12:46 |
| exman | What is the official IME Framework? | 12:46 |
| exman | in Meego | 12:46 |
| CosmoHill | IME? | 12:46 |
| exman | Input method engine | 12:46 |
| CosmoHill | i have no idea | 12:47 |
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| Anss| | I think qt's light house might be one candidate | 12:47 |
| Anss| | but i am just guessing | 12:47 |
| exman | I found a duiimframework. but qt already has a many kind of ime support options. | 12:48 |
| exman | so... it's very confused. why did dui author makes duiimframework... | 12:49 |
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| timeless_mbp | exman: so... | 13:01 |
| timeless_mbp | dui* isn't really the future | 13:01 |
| exman | what's mean? | 13:02 |
| lcuk2 | timeless_mbp, just the person :) | 13:02 |
| timeless_mbp | the reason dui stuff was made is because dui needed to be made when the team was planning | 13:02 |
| timeless_mbp | Qt is a base level toolkit | 13:02 |
| timeless_mbp | QML at the time harmattan was being developed was not expected to be production ready in time for ship | 13:02 |
| timeless_mbp | and certainly not in time to do dev work | 13:02 |
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| timeless_mbp | there was work by the symbian team on another similar toolkit | 13:04 |
| timeless_mbp | however we didn't know about their work, their time table wasn't compatible w/ ours | 13:04 |
| timeless_mbp | and their vision wasn't compatible w/ ours | 13:04 |
| timeless_mbp | so we went ahead and made dui | 13:04 |
| timeless_mbp | and then at some point, we lost | 13:04 |
| timeless_mbp | fwiw, directui is not the first directui | 13:04 |
| timeless_mbp | microsoft has been shipping a directui for a while :) | 13:05 |
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| exman | i thought dui is main gui toolkit of Meego. isn't it? | 13:05 |
| timeless_mbp | no | 13:05 |
| timeless_mbp | Qt is the main toolkit | 13:05 |
| Anss| | what is directui? | 13:05 |
| Anss| | ...really | 13:05 |
| timeless_mbp | dui is the toolkit that Nokia will be using for most of its apps | 13:05 |
| timeless_mbp | Anss|: an accelerated toolkit built around the Qt framework | 13:06 |
| timeless_mbp | with certain shiny bits | 13:06 |
| timeless_mbp | at least, that's the theory | 13:06 |
| timeless_mbp | Qt is interesting, but it has problems | 13:06 |
| timeless_mbp | the Qt widget set is old, and hard to accelerate | 13:06 |
| timeless_mbp | w/ Qt 4.something, they added better primitives for use with hardware that does graphics acceleration | 13:07 |
| Anss| | there also some references to direct ui from symbian side. | 13:07 |
| timeless_mbp | yeah, um | 13:07 |
| timeless_mbp | everyone picks 'directui' as a name | 13:07 |
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| timeless_mbp | see my reference to microsoft | 13:07 |
| Anss| | http://developer.symbian.org/wiki/index.php/Prop/Direct_UI | 13:07 |
| timeless_mbp | the harmattan team picked the directui name before the symbian team did | 13:07 |
| timeless_mbp | so we won the right to use the name | 13:07 |
| timeless_mbp | the symbian people got the name 'orbit' (?) instead | 13:07 |
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| timeless_mbp | and in addition, they won the right to have the winning/surviving toolkit of the future | 13:08 |
| timeless_mbp | which is probably much more important/interesting | 13:08 |
| Anss| | for the implementation, direct ui as symbian context is more like paradigm | 13:08 |
| timeless_mbp | anyway, anywhere you see symbian-directui, please read symbian-orbit | 13:08 |
| timeless_mbp | it'll simplify your life | 13:08 |
| timeless_mbp | (not much, but a little) | 13:08 |
| * CosmoHill gives Tumi_ a poke | 13:09 | |
| Termana | timeless_mbp: Sounds like Nokia's internal team are taking gambles on future devices :P | 13:09 |
| Termana | teams* | 13:09 |
| timeless_mbp | Termana: and this surprises you because? | 13:09 |
| timeless_mbp | there's a company in east asia which would assign 3 complete teams to make 3 competing products | 13:09 |
| timeless_mbp | they'd go off, come back, the best one wins, and would be the only one to ship | 13:09 |
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| timeless_mbp | nokia only has the resources to do two teams, and we let both ship :) | 13:10 |
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| exman | It's very useful information for me | 13:11 |
| * timeless_mbp shrugs | 13:11 | |
| exman | thanks timeless | 13:11 |
| timeless_mbp | :) | 13:11 |
| Anss| | Nokia dropped qtopia, which would have been third. | 13:11 |
| timeless_mbp | oh, qtopia is dead dead? | 13:11 |
| Anss| | dunno | 13:11 |
| Anss| | at least not shipped in device | 13:11 |
| Anss| | *afaik | 13:12 |
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| Termana | timeless_mbp: When you say they have the right to the winning toolkit, does that mean the Symbian team exclusively gets it or that the Symbian team just gets to use it? | 13:13 |
| Bostik | Termana: I would guess their design won the evolutionary contest and is selected for use across the board | 13:13 |
| timeless_mbp | correct | 13:14 |
| timeless_mbp | how precisely that will be implemented is still probably a bit up in the air | 13:14 |
| timeless_mbp | it might be integrated into Qt<something> | 13:14 |
| timeless_mbp | or it might just be shipped "everywhere" | 13:14 |
| Anss| | is there really some new about this "competition"/winning toolkit. i think that is only a wild speculation. | 13:16 |
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| Anss| | according gitorious directui is very active project | 13:16 |
| exman | Anyway... direct-ui is not a official meego gui toolkit. right ? so ... Will direct-ui be only used for symbian, not maemo? | 13:17 |
| timeless_mbp | well, we're going to use it for harmattan <period> | 13:17 |
| timeless_mbp | exman: please reread | 13:17 |
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| timeless_mbp | symbian's toolkit is 'orbit' | 13:17 |
| timeless_mbp | don't call it something else, you'll confuse everyone | 13:17 |
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| timeless_mbp | officially we do not encourage third parties to build on harmattan's dui | 13:17 |
| exman | sorry ^^; | 13:17 |
| timeless_mbp | it's open source | 13:18 |
| timeless_mbp | you can use it if you like, you can even submit patches | 13:18 |
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| timeless_mbp | and as long as management isn't busy retasking engineers, they'd probably take them | 13:18 |
| timeless_mbp | but, officially we do not encourage people to use the toolkit | 13:18 |
| timeless_mbp | the people working on the toolkit are of course proud of the toolkit and would like others to use it | 13:18 |
| timeless_mbp | but that's an engineering level thing | 13:19 |
| andre | has anyone here done on-device debugging on the N900? | 13:19 |
| timeless_mbp | every parent is proud of their baby, no matter how unloved it is otherwise | 13:19 |
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| Anss| | btw latest blog of NG widgets used term MVC, that reminded me about directui. | 13:20 |
| timeless_mbp | model view controller has been a buzzword for um | 13:20 |
| timeless_mbp | 15 years? | 13:20 |
| timeless_mbp | 20? | 13:20 |
| timeless_mbp | at least 15 | 13:20 |
| * timeless_mbp remembers it from high school | 13:20 | |
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| Anss| | yep. At least microsoft used it a looong time a go. | 13:21 |
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| timeless_mbp | mfc always was mvc | 13:22 |
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| Anss| | basically not bad idea. | 13:22 |
| Anss| | but in practice... | 13:22 |
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| timeless_mbp | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model–view–controller#Implementations_of_MVC_as_GUI_frameworks | 13:23 |
| Anss| | it is very challenging design pattern or some consider it even anti-pattern. | 13:23 |
| Bostik | andre: does strace count? I haven't managed to get gdb produce anything sensible from Qt linked binaries on N900 | 13:23 |
| andre | Bostik: no, I am talking about using gdbserver on the device | 13:23 |
| timeless_mbp | andre: i've used it | 13:24 |
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| timeless_mbp | others on our team have too | 13:24 |
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| andre | Bostik: I can set breakpoints, and use 'stepi', but 'step' fails | 13:24 |
| andre | timeless_mbp: so you could simply break at main and single-step? | 13:25 |
| timeless_mbp | yes | 13:25 |
| timeless_mbp | this is meego or maemo? | 13:25 |
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| timeless_mbp | because in maemo, there's the launcher which makes 'main' painful | 13:25 |
| timeless_mbp | i think there are rumors of plans to do something similar for post maemo platforms | 13:25 |
| andre | timeless_mbp: plain Qt Gui app on maemo I suppose | 13:26 |
| timeless_mbp | ok, so no maemo-launcher | 13:26 |
| timeless_mbp | yeah, breaking at main can work | 13:26 |
| andre | timeless_mbp: I haven't seem a 'launcher' so far, | 13:26 |
| timeless_mbp | i've probably seen sketches for one or two instead of impls | 13:26 |
| timeless_mbp | i'm not looking, i like keeping my head in the sand | 13:27 |
| andre | timeless_mbp: yes, break work, and I can enter functions with 'stepi', but no with 'step' | 13:27 |
| timeless_mbp | this stuff is always disgusting | 13:27 |
| timeless_mbp | andre: info shar | 13:27 |
| timeless_mbp | you need to get symbols happy on the gdb side | 13:27 |
| timeless_mbp | typically you're missing symlinks | 13:27 |
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| andre | timeless_mbp: what version of gdb were you using? ah... | 13:27 |
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| timeless_mbp | um… right now? i use crash reporters instead | 13:29 |
| timeless_mbp | and mxr's | 13:29 |
| timeless_mbp | (or bonsai's) | 13:29 |
| timeless_mbp | gdb's are for other people :) | 13:30 |
| timeless_mbp | i tend to use 6.8 self built iirc | 13:30 |
| timeless_mbp | but you can use pretty much anything | 13:30 |
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| andre | timeless_mbp: ok.. mis-matching debug symbols might be my problem. looks like gdb sets a breakpoint 8 bytes before a bit of code that's actually executed afterwards. | 13:30 |
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| exman | timeless, i have a one more question. how about gtk apps in meego? is it okay in meego ? | 14:14 |
| slaine | yes | 14:15 |
| exman | Qt based app is recommanded, and gtk apps also okay. | 14:16 |
| exman | right ? | 14:16 |
| slaine | yes | 14:16 |
| exman | hamattan ui apps also okay | 14:16 |
| exman | right ? | 14:16 |
| exman | what's different between X-based PC Linux distros and Meego ? | 14:17 |
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| CosmoHill | dammit, I made two false commits >.< | 14:19 |
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| exman | actually my question started from what's the official IME framework? :-) | 14:20 |
| exman | i thought meego has officals in many part of GUI framework. (e.g - IME, Toolkit... packaging (related .desktop files or short cut in desktop)) | 14:22 |
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| slaine | exman: There's nothing special about meego in that it is just another linux distro | 14:27 |
| slaine | However, the details of how it's different from distro X is somewhat like "how long is a piece of string" | 14:28 |
| CosmoHill | hey slaine | 14:28 |
| slaine | Hey | 14:28 |
| CosmoHill | I started my prorgramming assignment again and it's going very well | 14:28 |
| CosmoHill | :D | 14:28 |
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| exman | hmm.. thanks~ siaine | 14:29 |
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| CosmoHill | my server has a stricter version of gcc than my laptop | 14:31 |
| exman | CosmoHill, What kind of s/w do you coding for meego? | 14:31 |
| slaine | CosmoHill: that's a nice thing about gcc, it gets stricter as it grows | 14:32 |
| exman | slaine, do you know about pyqt or pyside? | 14:33 |
| slaine | nope | 14:33 |
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| CosmoHill | exman: none | 14:34 |
| CosmoHill | nate@blue[1019]:~/trunk2 $ gcc --version | 14:35 |
| CosmoHill | gcc (GCC) 4.2.4 | 14:35 |
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| CosmoHill | laptop: powerpc-apple-darwin8-gcc-4.0.1 (GCC) 4.0.1 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 5370) | 14:35 |
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| amjad | i have filed my first meego bug :) | 15:39 |
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| Anss| | congrats | 15:43 |
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| CosmoHill | *waits | 15:44 |
| amjad | lol, CosmoHill, how many assasination attempts have you survived :) | 15:46 |
| slaine | DawnFoster: hey Dawn. Will any of the MeeGo presentations from the collab summit later this week be made available online for us poor saps that can't make it ? | 15:46 |
| CosmoHill | the trick is to keep close to someone and then step quickly to the left when anyone goes for you | 15:46 |
| CosmoHill | bbl | 15:48 |
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| maclaver | slaine: I am not sure if the Linux Foundation will be recording the Workgroup's presentations, I will ask Dawn in person on Thursday. | 15:56 |
| slaine | maclaver: great, thanks | 15:57 |
| Anss| | have you guys check the dui gitorious lately? | 16:00 |
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| Anss| | or should i say meegotouch | 16:01 |
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| DawnFoster | slaine / maclaver - I'm not sure if they'll be recorded, but I'll try to find out. | 16:14 |
| maclaver | DawnFoster: We could ask the presenter to put the slides on the wiki in PDF format at least. | 16:17 |
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| DawnFoster | good idea. | 16:18 |
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| CosmoHill | some of my friends record lectures with a Dictaphone and listen to it later as they go through the slides | 16:20 |
| CosmoHill | maybe if it's not recorder someone could get it on a dictaphone | 16:20 |
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| timeless_mbp | so um | 16:25 |
| timeless_mbp | i should probably note that my information is not necessarily accurate or current | 16:25 |
| timeless_mbp | it's roughly 2 months old | 16:25 |
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| timeless_mbp | danielwilms: hey, "pong" | 16:25 |
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| danielwilms | timeless_mbp hey | 16:26 |
| slaine | Does X work on the x86 netbook images yet ? | 16:27 |
| timeless_mbp | danielwilms: so i left a tiny note in the wiki bit you asked me about | 16:31 |
| timeless_mbp | but if you have more questions, now's a good time to ask | 16:31 |
| danielwilms | timeless_mbp perfect, thanks...let me have a look | 16:32 |
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| danielwilms | timeless_mbp looks good, thanks a lot! | 16:41 |
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| w00t_ | timeless_mbp: what information isn't accurate? | 16:46 |
| * w00t_ wonders if he missed something | 16:46 | |
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| slaine | w00t_: I'd imagine it was related to earlier conversations on QML and DUI | 16:49 |
| slaine | just a guess though | 16:50 |
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| slaine | lbt: you about ? | 16:50 |
| timeless_mbp | slaine: yeah | 16:50 |
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| timeless_mbp | w00t_: you missed an internal email which i don't [want to] understand | 16:51 |
| Khertan | Heya ! | 16:51 |
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| timeless_mbp | since i don't [claim to] understand it, i can't comment more than to underscore that i don't officially know or understand anything about what happens anywhere :) | 16:51 |
| w00t_ | heh | 16:51 |
| * timeless_mbp underscores that a few more times for good measure | 16:52 | |
| andre | timeless_mbp: I've been through a whole zoo of gdb versions now and none of them is able to step into a function. so either this never worked, or I am doing something conceptionally wrong. | 16:52 |
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| lbt | slaine: yes | 16:57 |
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| slaine | has anything further happened on the Repo WG ? | 16:58 |
| lbt | no, I wanted to do some work on it this weekend but stuff happened | 16:58 |
| lbt | maybe tonight :) | 16:58 |
| slaine | yeah yeah | 16:59 |
| slaine | What work are you looking to do on it ? | 16:59 |
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| slaine | Other than, "Give us access to OBS please" | 16:59 |
| slaine | :) | 16:59 |
| lbt | I think the TSG felt +ve enough that it's worth expanding | 16:59 |
| lbt | it will include "how the f*ck are we supposed to build" :D | 16:59 |
| slaine | there's still a firewall curtain in the way | 17:00 |
| slaine | hopefully we'll get that big reveal at either IDF or Collab summit this week and we can at last move on | 17:01 |
| lbt | more importantly there's a policy in the way | 17:01 |
| slaine | The policy of doing things behind the curtain ? | 17:02 |
| lbt | heh, no | 17:02 |
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| slaine | 'cause that is an issue | 17:02 |
| lbt | a policy of "none of those annoying end-users on our nice OBS" | 17:02 |
| slaine | Oh that one | 17:02 |
| lbt | yeah. that one | 17:03 |
| timeless_mbp | andre: heh | 17:03 |
| lbt | we have SSO now though... | 17:03 |
| slaine | ==? | 17:03 |
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| lbt | so I can ask the CWG why I can't use SSO to logon to the OBS | 17:03 |
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| lbt | isn't the OBS a community resource then? | 17:04 |
| lbt | is it private? | 17:04 |
| lbt | how can that be? | 17:04 |
| * lbt wonders if his english sarcasm is showing | 17:04 | |
| timeless_mbp | andre: so | 17:04 |
| timeless_mbp | i asked oleg which gdb/gdbserver he's using | 17:04 |
| slaine | lbt, quiet well :) | 17:04 |
| timeless_mbp | the answer is he's using a gdb-cross build that *i* made for him :) | 17:04 |
| slaine | DawnFoster: Actually is there a TSG meeting this wednesday too ? | 17:05 |
| timeless_mbp | the gdbserver comes from our rd image | 17:05 |
| slaine | I missed last weeks due to illness | 17:05 |
| lbt | meeto | 17:05 |
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| slaine | is there a way to get yum to list the contents of a package from the repo data ? | 17:08 |
| CosmoHill | http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_3084.html :) | 17:09 |
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| amjad | slaine yum info gives information of package | 17:15 |
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| slaine | I know, but not about the files that are in the rpm | 17:15 |
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| slaine | yum knows the info as I can give yum a file path and ask it what package provides it | 17:16 |
| slaine | but I'd like to go the other way and look at what files a package provides | 17:16 |
| lbt | rpm -ql <pkg> | 17:18 |
| lbt | or is this for a non-installed package? | 17:19 |
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| amjad | slaine : rpm can give files in package by rpm -qi --filesbypkg <packagename> or rpm -qp --filesbypkg <packagename> , i think -qi is for uninstalled package | 17:21 |
| slaine | yes, I know guys | 17:21 |
| slaine | I'm talking about non-installed packages | 17:22 |
| jusliukk1 | slaine, afaik yum doesn't look into local package files, you'd need to do "rpm -qp bla.rpm" | 17:24 |
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| slaine | lol | 17:26 |
| slaine | yes, non-local is what I'm talking about | 17:27 |
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| arauho | hi there, /usr/sbin/liveinst: No such file or directory | 17:38 |
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| arauho | when booting the meego image, any idea? | 17:38 |
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| slaine | yum install installer arauho | 17:39 |
| slaine | not sure it works yet though | 17:39 |
| CosmoHill | from the usbimg or the vdi? | 17:39 |
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| slaine | it didn't when I tried last week | 17:39 |
| arauho | mm.. | 17:39 |
| arauho | CosmoHill: usbimg .. | 17:39 |
| slaine | arauho: it's not meant to be installed yet | 17:39 |
| slaine | there's still more behind the scenes stuff going on | 17:40 |
| CosmoHill | slaine: any idea how to get x11 or a gui installed? | 17:40 |
| slaine | CosmoHill: I've too little time to bother trying | 17:40 |
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| CosmoHill | fair enough | 17:40 |
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| slaine | From what I can see, they don't want us using it properly until they're ready, hence the staggered releases | 17:40 |
| CosmoHill | I've not done any work since lunch so i should | 17:40 |
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| slaine | We had a more usable Meego build from the Moblin trunk repo prior to the move of servers etc. So I fail to see how we're worse off now unless for some non-technical reasons | 17:41 |
| arauho | slaine: well, I have seen it might take soem effort to get X properly working here | 17:41 |
| GeneralAntilles | So, who is actually going to be in SF? | 17:42 |
| arauho | slaine: CosmoHill so, none of you guys have tried to get it installed? | 17:43 |
| slaine | Given that Intel are hosting an IDF in Beijing over the next 2 days and we've got the Collab summit later this week, I have a feeling there's going to be a big reveal and then we'll get moving | 17:43 |
| CosmoHill | nope, I just got the live image to boot | 17:43 |
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| slaine | arauho: tried, didn't work out too well, gave up as I wanted a usable netbook | 17:43 |
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| arauho | slaine: heh, I understand .. | 17:43 |
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| * arauho will play a bit around this and see what he can do | 17:44 | |
| slaine | I'm sure I could have figured out what was wrong and how to make it work, but at the end of the day if it was going to take that much effort to get Xorg and an xterm up I didn't see the point | 17:44 |
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| CosmoHill | what's it called when you have one class inside another | 18:00 |
| CosmoHill | and you create functions of the outter class to access the functions of the inner class? | 18:01 |
| CosmoHill | for* | 18:01 |
| Anss| | pimpl? | 18:01 |
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| * CosmoHill looks it up | 18:06 | |
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| CosmoHill | at the moment I have something like this: | 18:10 |
| CosmoHill | bool locationClass::delItem(int itemID) | 18:10 |
| CosmoHill | { | 18:10 |
| CosmoHill | return locationItems.delItem(itemID); | 18:10 |
| CosmoHill | } | 18:10 |
| CosmoHill | locationItems is a class instance inside the locationClass | 18:11 |
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| slaine | CosmoHill: poor design ? | 18:14 |
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| * slaine ducks | 18:14 | |
| CosmoHill | for all i know it could be | 18:15 |
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| CosmoHill | inventory has a linked list of items | 18:15 |
| CosmoHill | locations has a inventory | 18:15 |
| CosmoHill | and maps has a linked list of locations | 18:15 |
| CosmoHill | so would i need to make functions that head downways from maps to inventory? | 18:16 |
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| * CosmoHill goes ahead with these functions | 18:29 | |
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| Noveel | hi there | 19:26 |
| Noveel | I've got one question will it be possible to update moblin 2.1 to meego? | 19:27 |
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| Noveel | I've one question will it be possible to update moblin 2.1 to meego? | 19:30 |
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| slaine | Noveel: Not likely, they're technically different OS's | 19:30 |
| Noveel | ok thx | 19:30 |
| slaine | I'll be backing up my /home/glen dir to a sdhc card prior to doing a fresh install | 19:31 |
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| slaine | time for the commute | 19:54 |
| slaine | catch you lot tomorrow | 19:54 |
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| blakecallens | anyone know what the plans are for putting meego on a phone? | 23:19 |
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| CosmoHill | theirs a guide to putting meego onto an N900 | 23:21 |
| CosmoHill | there's | 23:21 |
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| thiago_home | and Nokia will make devices that run MeeGo | 23:24 |
| thiago_home | shipped from the factory | 23:24 |
| erkan_yilmaz- | http://wiki.meego.com/ARM | 23:25 |
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