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| CosmoHill | You can't listen to dubstep on laptop speakers | 00:50 |
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| leinir | Hehe, no, no you can't :) | 00:51 |
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| leinir | Burial on a pair of tinny speakers like that would be sort of... meh ;) | 00:51 |
| CosmoHill | I got a sub for my birthday | 00:51 |
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| leinir | Nicely :) | 00:52 |
| leinir | My sound system's set up by my better half - he really knows what he's doing with that :) | 00:52 |
| CosmoHill | watched a film today and you really noticed it :) | 00:52 |
| leinir | *nodnods* :) | 00:52 |
| CosmoHill | so I'm still tuning it | 00:52 |
| CosmoHill | I'm learning :) | 00:52 |
| CosmoHill | "Curiosity killed the cat...but for a while I was a suspect" | 00:53 |
| lurkmeego | To every single person in here who has contributed with a line of code, documentation, a translated sentence or even a pixel of artwork. Thank You and I look forward to seeing where you take this project! | 00:56 |
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| trip0 | anyone working on a meego deb repo for testing on deb-based machines? | 02:51 |
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| trip0 | specifically, ubuntu... | 02:51 |
| CosmoHill | deb? | 02:52 |
| CosmoHill | no | 02:52 |
| CosmoHill | I can give you a VDI image of the meego usbimg if you'd like | 02:52 |
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| trip0 | CosmoHill, i'd really only find the images useful if they had a gui sadly. in the meantime, I can start deving apps and stuff using the framework on my desktop. | 03:03 |
| trip0 | which is why a deb repo would be useful, cuz i run ubuntu on my desktop ;) | 03:03 |
| trip0 | oh well, i suppose compiling from src isn't too bad :p | 03:04 |
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| _Sky_ | trip0: consider using the chroot images and Xephyr(a window bases X-Server) as meego X server on you host system | 03:10 |
| _Sky_ | i have xfce running there, its in the meego package repo | 03:10 |
| trip0 | oh cool | 03:10 |
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| trip0 | i guess the other reason is that my car system is ubuntu based as well... and i'd love to run meego stuff in it when the UI lands... | 03:11 |
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| _Sky_ | there are plans to make additional apt packages | 03:12 |
| trip0 | that would be the awesome | 03:12 |
| _Sky_ | http://wiki.meego.com/Proposal_for_a_Debian_Packaging_working_group | 03:12 |
| trip0 | hmm | 03:13 |
| trip0 | i should sign up for that group as well | 03:13 |
| trip0 | looks like we've got several already talented people in the group :) | 03:14 |
| _Sky_ | all packages are i586, so i guess they should work on a ubuntu system as well, but you may have problems with dependencies | 03:15 |
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| dsster | I'm wondering how they restrict n900 for when meego comes out? I mean it's just like installing debian and then re-installing ubuntu on the same device. | 03:16 |
| _Sky_ | most of the people of the group are from the maemo projekt ;) it looks like they want to keep their apt system :) | 03:17 |
| trip0 | heh | 03:17 |
| trip0 | that's fine with me :) | 03:17 |
| trip0 | that's what community is all about. | 03:18 |
| _Sky_ | ok, i had to take a second look, there aren't that many from the maemo projekt, most people there are debian developer or maintainer | 03:19 |
| CosmoHill | cyas | 03:19 |
| _Sky_ | cya Cosmo | 03:19 |
| trip0 | bye | 03:20 |
| CosmoHill | bye :) | 03:20 |
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| _Sky_ | yum is a little bit slow, but its ok , the last time i used yum before trying out meego was several years ago and it was horrable :D | 03:21 |
| _Sky_ | very slow and very confusing search results | 03:22 |
| _Sky_ | today its very useful :) | 03:23 |
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| _Sky_ | the only problem i have with apt-get is that i have to type too much :P | 03:24 |
| trip0 | lol | 03:25 |
| _Sky_ | you can't have everything ;) | 03:25 |
| _Sky_ | i should consider using bash aliases for apt :D | 03:26 |
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| Termana_n810 | hey hey | 08:54 |
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| amjad | ny one working on sunday here :) | 09:57 |
| thiago_home | working? no | 09:57 |
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| amjad | so i find that repos are borked for installation of firefox on meego chroot | 10:06 |
| amjad | http://pastebin.com/cHJ6DM8b | 10:06 |
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| microlith | impressive, virtualbox built its kernel module for fedora 12, and somehow it's in the wrong module format... | 10:35 |
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| microlith | oh nice, fedora default time for the grub menu is zero | 10:48 |
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| lbt | is there a proper git repo of the meego kernel | 11:49 |
| lbt | ie one that uses git branches and doesn't have diffs to patches | 11:50 |
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| CosmoHill | #define egdeClass edgeClass | 12:41 |
| * CosmoHill wonders if that''s good or bad | 12:41 | |
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| thiago_home | it doesn't do anythin | 12:46 |
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| CosmoHill | look at the first 3 letters | 12:50 |
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| CosmoHill | fucking one way bastards | 13:14 |
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| CosmoHill | http://black-flag.co.uk/wordpress/2010/04/11/c-aggregation-assocation/ | 13:42 |
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| CosmoHill | anyone wanna help me with the "this" keyword in c++? | 14:14 |
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| amjad | sure CosmoHIll | 14:18 |
| amjad | this keyword points to current object in C++ | 14:19 |
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| CosmoHill | bool exitClass::setCommand(command) | 14:20 |
| CosmoHill | { command = this.command; } | 14:20 |
| inz | this is a pointer | 14:20 |
| CosmoHill | is that right? | 14:21 |
| inz | no, it's totally wrong. | 14:21 |
| inz | 1) you don't have a type for the argument | 14:21 |
| inz | 2) the assignment is wrong way | 14:22 |
| inz | 3) this is a pointer, i.e. use ->, not . | 14:22 |
| CosmoHill | dammit, I was thinking of java >.< | 14:22 |
| CosmoHill | thank you very much inz :) | 14:22 |
| * CosmoHill gives inz a cookie | 14:23 | |
| inz | No need, always fun to point mistakes by other people | 14:23 |
| CosmoHill | bool exitClass::setCommand(string command) | 14:23 |
| CosmoHill | { | 14:23 |
| CosmoHill | this->command = command; | 14:23 |
| CosmoHill | } | 14:23 |
| inz | yesh, that seems corerct. | 14:23 |
| amjad | that looks ok to me | 14:24 |
| CosmoHill | :D | 14:24 |
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| andres | inz: if the parameter would have been a reference the assignement order theoretically could have made sense :P | 14:26 |
| inz | anders, yes, but then it would be a getter, not setter | 14:27 |
| inz | anders, although it would still make sense in a way, one should not misuse commonly used terms | 14:27 |
| CosmoHill | is there a way to do "if command = 1, 2 or 3 then do this? | 14:27 |
| CosmoHill | like | 14:27 |
| CosmoHill | if( command == 1 || 2 || 3) | 14:28 |
| inz | not really, you have to repeat the command == part | 14:28 |
| CosmoHill | thought so | 14:28 |
| CosmoHill | I'll use a switch, should be easier | 14:28 |
| inz | Doesn't work for strings though | 14:28 |
| CosmoHill | back to the if statment | 14:29 |
| inz | You can use switch, if you map your commands to an enum | 14:30 |
| CosmoHill | if((command == "North") || (command == "South") || (command == "East") || (command == "West")) | 14:32 |
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| inz | Cosmo, You fall into a bottomless pit. | 14:35 |
| CosmoHill | Try again? (Y/n) : | 14:35 |
| CosmoHill | i've had so many problems with my assignment I've started again | 14:36 |
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| CosmoHill | inz: I may have to reference that little bit about 'this' in my assignment, is that okay? | 14:37 |
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| inz | Cosmo, reference what little bit? | 14:40 |
| CosmoHill | between 12:20 and 12:23 | 14:41 |
| CosmoHill | (it's 12:41 for me atm) | 14:41 |
| CosmoHill | pretty much copy and paste the IRC log into the end of my assignment and say I listened to you | 14:41 |
| inz | Cosmo, I have no problems with it, no need to credit me on it. | 14:45 |
| CosmoHill | I'll see how many references I'll have by the end | 14:45 |
| CosmoHill | :) | 14:45 |
| inz | What's the "wikipedia policy" at your insitute? | 14:46 |
| CosmoHill | I don't know | 14:46 |
| CosmoHill | don't even know if we have one | 14:46 |
| inz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%2B%2B_classes#The_this_keyword | 14:46 |
| inz | In our univeristy it pretty much changes course-to-course, others allow, or even suggest, using wikipedia, others say one shouldn't use it | 14:47 |
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| CosmoHill | I did look on wikipedia but didn't understand it | 14:48 |
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| Xylus | hello guys | 14:54 |
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| CosmoHill | no wonder my program doesn't work, I spelt success three different ways in the same function | 15:08 |
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| wazd_e63 | Heya meego | 17:07 |
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| fale | hi | 19:09 |
| fale | anyone tryied meego + kde? | 19:09 |
| fale | another question: If I create some packages, how can I manage to push them into the main meego archive? | 19:13 |
| thiago_home | not yet decided, i think | 19:15 |
| fale | thiago_home: I think that you're talking about the second one... and the first one? | 19:15 |
| thiago_home | yes, the second one | 19:16 |
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| todorovc_ | ? | 20:02 |
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| amjad | any one having problems installing firefox from extra-devel repo on meego chroot?? | 20:04 |
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| fale | amjad: which repo are you talking about? | 20:23 |
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| amjad | fale: http://pastebin.com/jtxbMa4U | 20:27 |
| amjad | thats the error i get while installing firefox | 20:27 |
| fale | amjad: the problem is that the package system-bookmarks that is required by the firefox package is not available | 20:28 |
| amjad | exactly, so why is it not in the repo | 20:28 |
| fale | amjad: or is a dependency that is not needed in reality, or the person who packaged firefox forgot about it | 20:29 |
| fale | amjad: in any case, this is the reason for which that repo is called devel, things can be broken ;) | 20:30 |
| amjad | ok i have build it for me and installed it without that dependency | 20:30 |
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| fale | amjad: then, probably, the dev who did that package imported the spec file from another distro and forgot to remove that dependency ;) | 20:31 |
| amjad | but really if you are targetin g netbooks the firefox package should be in core os packages not in extra-devel | 20:31 |
| fale | amjad: all packages are in extra-devel in the first period and after they move toward a stable repo ;) in any case, firefox is not the only browser ;) | 20:33 |
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| amjad | but ff is the most famous browser in open source world | 20:34 |
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| fale | amjad: that's true, but is not very light ;) | 20:35 |
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| Surfa | ff is moving strongly towards big pile of shit | 20:35 |
| Surfa | together with thunderbird | 20:35 |
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| ml-mobile | how so? | 20:36 |
| fale | Surfa: I think all the mozilla products are moving in the same direction | 20:36 |
| Surfa | fale, sadly yes | 20:36 |
| Surfa | just note here, i | 20:36 |
| Surfa | m still using ff and tb, but continuoysly considering options.. | 20:37 |
| fale | Surfa: I have found very good chromium (git nightly) | 20:37 |
| Surfa | latest thunderbird is pretty much at the level of uselesness | 20:37 |
| ml-mobile | until chrome's JS engine has the right hooks for noscript and a proper adblock... | 20:38 |
| Surfa | fale, chrome and chromium are quite fine, but lacking plugins that i'd like to use | 20:38 |
| Surfa | but there aren't that good email programs, so i'n strongly considering using the outlook for my personal emails too :) | 20:39 |
| fale | Surfa: yeah I know, they are still not ready for a lot of people, but I think they can be a very good option really soon for the biggest part of the people | 20:39 |
| fale | Surfa: are you on win? | 20:39 |
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| amjad | question?? | 20:39 |
| Surfa | win7 yes | 20:39 |
| amjad | does meego need any package maintainer | 20:39 |
| Surfa | or os x, or linux.. depends on which computer i'm using | 20:40 |
| fale | Surfa: I see ;) | 20:40 |
| fale | amjad: I guess yes, I read something about it in the wiki | 20:41 |
| amjad | i was the package maintainer for yellow dog linux | 20:41 |
| Surfa | fale, but i actually like win7 the best at the moment :) | 20:42 |
| fale | Surfa: I see ;) | 20:42 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Hum, OpenPrinting project guy wants me to talk about MeeGo's printing capabilities in SF. . . . | 21:04 |
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| lbt | should be short+sweet GeneralAntilles :) | 21:06 |
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| Jaffa | GeneralAntilles: Obviously you're the expert on the matter... | 21:07 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Jaffa, clearly. | 21:09 |
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| GeneralAntilles | lbt, i.e., none? ;) | 21:10 |
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| lbt | lpr is there I think | 21:10 |
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| amjad | lbt: how can i become pkg maintainer of meego?? | 21:17 |
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| lbt | amjad: send patches to the current maintainer until they trust you enough :) | 21:18 |
| amjad | can previous experience with RPM based distro create trust :) | 21:19 |
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| thiago_home | work creates trust | 21:26 |
| CosmoHill | :) | 21:28 |
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| * GAN900 hears palm greasing does, too. | 21:35 | |
| GAN900 | thiago_home, you wouldn't happen to know who I should direct this OpenPrinting guy to, would you? | 21:35 |
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| thiago_home | about what? | 21:36 |
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| GAN900 | printing in MeeGo | 21:38 |
| GAN900 | He wants somebody in to talk to for the LF summit | 21:38 |
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| GAN900 | Do we have a list of attendees on a wiki anywhere? | 21:47 |
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| thiago_home | GAN900: no idea | 22:13 |
| thiago_home | as for Qt printing, the responsible people won't be present | 22:14 |
| GeneralAntilles | thiago_home, OK, thanks. | 22:14 |
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