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| dl9pf_ | no b.o.o does no external links | 00:51 |
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| lbt | :) | 00:52 |
| dl9pf_ | all local deployed | 00:52 |
| lbt | policy? | 00:52 |
| dl9pf_ | too | 00:52 |
| lbt | or just the way it is until now? | 00:52 |
| dl9pf_ | i think both | 00:52 |
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| dl9pf | but in HEAD download on demand is back again | 00:55 |
| lbt | I saw that... | 00:55 |
| lbt | btw, have you worked on the events much? | 00:55 |
| dl9pf | but thats for released trees | 00:55 |
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| dl9pf | not much | 00:56 |
| lbt | I was looking into them vs Hermes | 00:57 |
| lbt | trying to get more detail from the /lastevents | 00:57 |
| dl9pf | thats good, the current messages are too brief sometimes | 00:58 |
| lbt | yeah, we want more for automation purposes too - running test suites etc | 00:59 |
| lbt | hmm. one problem in that area is trying to get a tree/list of all the pkgs built as part of a single trigger event | 00:59 |
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| dl9pf | no idea atm | 01:04 |
| dl9pf | osc st | 01:04 |
| lbt | np, it's the weekend now... Joggler hacking | 01:04 |
| dl9pf | lol - wrong window | 01:04 |
| dl9pf | :) | 01:05 |
| lbt | heh, mer has been invaded! | 01:05 |
| lbt | the Joggler's going to be a decent meego device | 01:05 |
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| dl9pf | only available in UK, right ? | 01:06 |
| lbt | yeah, but I've sent 2 to poland, 5 to germany, 2 to US | 01:07 |
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| dl9pf | hm - thats an idea ;) | 01:07 |
| lbt | O2 won't sell me anymore but we can find someone to buy one for you if you like | 01:08 |
| lbt | It's about £20 to ship it | 01:08 |
| dl9pf | thats 40% of the device ... hehe | 01:09 |
| TSCHAKeee | lbt: are there proper graphics chip drivers? | 01:09 |
| lbt | TSCHAKeee: there's work being done on the IEGD ones | 01:10 |
| zs | to ship it where? | 01:10 |
| lbt | zs: germany | 01:10 |
| TSCHAKeee | lbt: what state are they in? | 01:10 |
| * thiago_home needs to get some MeeGo devices | 01:11 | |
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| thiago_home | and send the expense to Nokia | 01:11 |
| TSCHAKeee | there are meego devices? | 01:11 |
| TSCHAKeee | :) | 01:11 |
| lbt | TSCHAKeee: not 100% sure... Stskeeps knows | 01:11 |
| arjan | TSCHAKeee: we haven't released yet ;) | 01:12 |
| arjan | there's moblin devices, and there's maemo devices | 01:12 |
| thiago_home | TSCHAKeee: I think I can run MeeGo on most laptops and netbooks, so I should be able to claim anything as MeeGo device | 01:12 |
| TSCHAKeee | arjan: BAD ARJAN! RELEASE SOME STUFF! :P :) | 01:12 |
| TSCHAKeee | kidding | 01:12 |
| * thiago_home already has all 3 maemo devices | 01:12 | |
| TSCHAKeee | I came across a very early meego transitional build for my netbook that i am running | 01:12 |
| thiago_home | or more. I have my N800 too. | 01:13 |
| zs | so when MeeGo will be released? | 01:13 |
| DawnFoster | the terminal window looks stunning on many different devices :) | 01:13 |
| lbt | arjan: as far as you know will the joggler hardware be 'supported' (even if not officially) | 01:13 |
| zs | thiago_home: there are 4 devices ;) | 01:13 |
| arjan | lbt: I have no idea; unless someone is really working on it ... it won't | 01:13 |
| * TSCHAKeee has all the Maemo devices as well | 01:13 | |
| arjan | I've not seen anyone work on joggler | 01:13 |
| thiago_home | zs: there are more. You just don't know about them :-) | 01:13 |
| TSCHAKeee | isn't the joggler just GMA500 ? | 01:13 |
| thiago_home | zs: between cancelled and upcoming products. | 01:13 |
| lbt | TSCHAKeee: not "just" | 01:13 |
| lbt | see the -dev ml | 01:13 |
| zs | thiago_home: 770, n800, n810, n900 :P | 01:14 |
| thiago_home | zs: N900++ and one more. | 01:14 |
| zs | n900++? | 01:14 |
| thiago_home | for example, did you notice that there's a letter missing between Diablo and Fremantle? | 01:14 |
| lbt | heck, we know the Joggler runs ubuntu really nicely... I'm sure Meego can step up ;) | 01:14 |
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| thiago_home | and another letter missing between Fremantle and Harmattan? | 01:14 |
| DawnFoster | zs: On release dates: MeeGo 1.0 in May. MeeGo 1.1 in October. 6 month cadence from there on | 01:14 |
| Mek | the one between fremantle and harmattan was already used earlier as gregale... | 01:14 |
| DawnFoster | More details on releases in the minutes from this TSG meeting http://trac.tspre.org/meetbot/meego-meeting/2010/meego-meeting.2010-03-24-19.58.html | 01:15 |
| lbt | thiago_home: N810 WiMax? | 01:15 |
| thiago_home | right, Gregale | 01:15 |
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| zs | DawnFoster: thanks | 01:15 |
| thiago_home | but the E is missing | 01:15 |
| thiago_home | I heard it was Elephanta | 01:15 |
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| lbt | arjan: the kernel.spec file... | 01:16 |
| thiago_home | anyway, there are some cancelled devices too (devices that were prototyped, but never released) | 01:16 |
| lbt | how do I get it to build a kernel with my config? | 01:17 |
| arjan | lbt: make your own config-foo that has your changes on top of the inheritance tree | 01:17 |
| lbt | yep, seeing that | 01:18 |
| arjan | do you want a whole new config? | 01:18 |
| arjan | or just one or two changes | 01:18 |
| arjan | the later is much easier | 01:18 |
| lbt | meh, I have a config | 01:18 |
| lbt | so I'd have to do a diff... | 01:18 |
| arjan | see configdiff.pl | 01:18 |
| lbt | 'k | 01:18 |
| TSCHAKeee | i wonder if a pre-fremantel mer will run this smartQ | 01:19 |
| TSCHAKeee | (yes, I am _THAT_ chafed with SmartDevice's ubuntu) | 01:19 |
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| microlith | yay scrollback | 03:05 |
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| LuciusMare | hello | 11:04 |
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| pupnik | can i get something like a beagleboard with omap4430 or equivalent | 11:10 |
| thiago_home | ask TI | 11:12 |
| thiago_home | not us | 11:12 |
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| pupnik | i hope such things will be available for joe public soon | 11:18 |
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| thiago_home | again, if you want to buy hardware, contact the hardware vendor | 11:26 |
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| lbt | I'm looking at customising the kernel .spec file to use my own config and could do with some support (being a deb-head!) | 11:48 |
| lbt | arjan: I got cut off last night during our chat - sorry. | 11:48 |
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| lbt | so I've got my desired config and configdiff.pl | 11:49 |
| lbt | I see Source10[1234567]: lines for various config variations | 11:50 |
| lbt | I want to just build my kernel though - not all the variants... | 11:50 |
| thiago_home | it's 2 am in Portland now | 11:51 |
| kunguz | does anyone use IEGD driver with Moblin? | 11:52 |
| lbt | thiago_home: yeah it's a bit like that isn't it | 11:53 |
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| koupsaa | kunguz,, http://moblin.org/projects/2.1-ivi-project-releases | 12:07 |
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| kunguz | koupsaa: I got this problem with that version. It opens with a black screen. After I compile IEGD, I think somehow it is now using the primary screen. I couldn't figure out how to set xorg.conf | 12:11 |
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| koupsaa | kunguz sorry i have to go . | 12:19 |
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| cyberkonsult | hello, I messed up the bootble img (I spend time configuring a lot of stuff incl. chat firefox and whatnot)...and .. | 12:19 |
| cyberkonsult | and to make thing fit, I linked the /usr/lib to another partition on the usb-memory, which.. | 12:20 |
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| cyberkonsult | meh.. now the libblkid isn''t availible until after the mount of the said partition.... | 12:21 |
| cyberkonsult | libblkid.so ... | 12:21 |
| cyberkonsult | how do pub that lib on the root partition again?? I'm not that familiar with dm_snapshot tech... | 12:22 |
| cyberkonsult | short question, how do I mount the dm_snapshot.img , change the contents and save the img again ?? | 12:24 |
| cyberkonsult | changing the extfs.img does nothing, since the fs that is read is the dm_snapshot ?? | 12:25 |
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| pupnik | could meego run on Samsung Moment? | 12:39 |
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| lbt | any reason the kernel config-generic is based on a 2.6.28 kernel for a 2.6.32.2 build? | 13:41 |
| Stskeeps | x86 or arm? | 13:42 |
| lbt | x86 | 13:44 |
| lbt | just working through the kernel.spec stuff and the various configs | 13:44 |
| lbt | config-arm-generic is derived from it too | 13:45 |
| Stskeeps | well, maybe it started as a 2.6.28 config | 13:46 |
| lbt | it did .... but it doesn't have the 2.6.32 oldconfig updates | 13:46 |
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| lbt | so running config-generic through make oldconfig and picking the right (?) values gives a 1.6k line diff | 13:51 |
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| BorosMnak | Hi | 14:11 |
| BorosMnak | any one here? i want to ask for help | 14:11 |
| BorosMnak | i have downloaded meego for intel atom, but the file is .usbimg | 14:12 |
| BorosMnak | what can i do to install it on my netbook ? | 14:12 |
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| glinpus | dd it to a bootable device such as an sd card or usb key | 14:18 |
| glinpus | but from what I understand, the "install" doesn't do anything yet | 14:19 |
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| cotigao | hi | 14:40 |
| cotigao | i am just a starter in maemo/meego | 14:41 |
| cotigao | what would be the appropriate way to start? | 14:41 |
| cotigao | though meego or maemo? | 14:41 |
| cotigao | *through | 14:42 |
| RST38h | You want maemo or meego? | 14:42 |
| cotigao | RST38h, isnt it the same now? | 14:42 |
| RST38h | If you want Maemo, it will be maemo.org, get SDK there, get a real device, etc | 14:42 |
| RST38h | No, not the same right now | 14:42 |
| RST38h | If you want MeeGo, get Moblin Developer Edition or whatever the netbook version is called | 14:43 |
| cotigao | RST38h, i see... thanks | 14:43 |
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| TurboVomit | hi | 15:24 |
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| TurboVomit | can we try meego? | 15:24 |
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| TurboVomit | how can we use the usbimg ? | 15:25 |
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| pupnik | have a n900? | 15:25 |
| TurboVomit | no | 15:26 |
| TurboVomit | i'd like to :) | 15:26 |
| TurboVomit | but i tried moblin, and i really like it | 15:26 |
| TurboVomit | even with no codec :-$ | 15:27 |
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| Rudran | hi | 16:50 |
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| Rudran | hi | 16:51 |
| Rudran | chin chin | 16:51 |
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| lbt | arjan: ping | 17:17 |
| * thiago_home looks at the clock | 17:18 | |
| thiago_home | 7:18 in Portland | 17:18 |
| lbt | he may have insomnia... | 17:18 |
| lbt | and the kernel packaging is so ..... revolting | 17:18 |
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| lbt | I so hate wasting time figuring things out because other people don't bother documenting their code | 17:20 |
| lbt | the biggest walls in opensource are the barriers to entry | 17:21 |
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| anaZ | what is not documented ? | 17:37 |
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| jensp | Hey there, I wanted to compile the meego fork of qemu, however, when compiling the gles-libs I noticed an error in the Makefile. | 17:40 |
| jensp | In dgles2/Makefile on line 4 a file is included which doesn't exist | 17:40 |
| jensp | so make always failes. Does anyone know where I can get the file? | 17:40 |
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| jensp | Oh, forget it, PEBCAK :) | 17:46 |
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| pupnik | http://www.bikudo.com/buy/details/602276/htc_desire_bravo_unlocked_usd222.html would this be a candidate for meego? (runs android) | 17:55 |
| thiago_home | if HTC wants it, sure | 17:57 |
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| lbt | anaZ: not much just makespec.pl, ./IVI ./MRST, merge.pl, the config-* "diff/overide" files, configdiff.pl, kernel.spec.in, the additional @@<X> preprocessor | 19:55 |
| lbt | and there's no README or overview. The 2.6.32 kernels are built using a 2.6.28 config baseline | 19:56 |
| lbt | also the purpose of config-generic is unclear since it has hardware selections in it | 19:57 |
| lbt | apart from that it's crystal clear. Didn't take more than 3 hours to do a make config ;) | 19:57 |
| th0br0 | Hello everyone; heya lbt. | 19:57 |
| lbt | hi th0br0 ... was thinking about the lessons... | 19:58 |
| lbt | we need to get a minimal virtualbox meego image ready and then go through using zypper/yum etc | 19:59 |
| lbt | and then go through spec files building.. We could use the kernel.spec as an anti-example ;) | 19:59 |
| Stskeeps | lessons? | 19:59 |
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| th0br0 | I'm looking for the page, duh | 20:00 |
| th0br0 | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MeeGo_Packaging_FAD currently in planning. | 20:00 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: the fedora guys offered to run a spec/rpm tutorial for us | 20:00 |
| * Stskeeps looks | 20:00 | |
| lbt | just 'cos they're nice guys :) | 20:01 |
| Stskeeps | or feel pity ;) | 20:01 |
| Stskeeps | sounds good though | 20:02 |
| lbt | at having to use rpm/spec....? | 20:02 |
| Stskeeps | our horrid skill at it? :P | 20:02 |
| th0br0 | but yeah, i agree with you lbt. but right now, such an event would be a bit early i think. | 20:02 |
| lbt | *nod* | 20:03 |
| lbt | gives more prep time! | 20:03 |
| suihkulokki | spec files seems reasonable except for the rpm macro parts | 20:03 |
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| Stskeeps | macros are a bit funky but dh_ is comparable :P | 20:03 |
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| lbt | I'm just glad that you know that whenever you see a % it's a macro | 20:04 |
| lbt | oh, wait | 20:04 |
| suihkulokki | Stskeeps: each of the dh_ have a well written manpage :) | 20:04 |
| Stskeeps | true | 20:04 |
| th0br0 | dh_? | 20:07 |
| lbt | th0br0: ah, the wonders of debhelper | 20:07 |
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| th0br0 | ok.. | 20:07 |
| Terje | suihkulokki, dozens of man pages about small things do not help if somebody's trying to understand the whole. | 20:09 |
| lbt | th0br0: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MeeGo_Packaging_FAD#Coverage | 20:13 |
| th0br0 | sounds reasonable | 20:15 |
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| suihkulokki | Terje: the main debhelper manpage has overview, but perhaps the best way is to set DH_VERBOSE env variable to show all actions done | 20:24 |
| suihkulokki | but my point is not to start a deb-rpm fight, but rather to get some to point me to guide explainen the macro language and howto trace spec macros when things go unexpected | 20:29 |
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| amjad | hello so i can not install firefox 3.5.7 from meego-extra repo on my meego previewe chroot cause of system-bookmarks dependency errors | 21:52 |
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| TurboVomit | did meego work on eeepc 701? | 23:09 |
| TurboVomit | or is it only for arm and atom? | 23:09 |
| CosmoHill | isn't the eeepc atom? | 23:10 |
| TurboVomit | the eeepc 701 is not | 23:10 |
| TurboVomit | moblin don't work on eeepc 701 | 23:10 |
| CosmoHill | does it's processor have SSSE3? | 23:10 |
| TSCHAKeee | nope | 23:10 |
| TSCHAKeee | not even close | 23:10 |
| TurboVomit | i don't know sorry | 23:10 |
| TSCHAKeee | it's a mobile celeron | 23:10 |
| TurboVomit | yes that's it ! | 23:10 |
| TSCHAKeee | cranked waaaay down | 23:10 |
| CosmoHill | then you would require a new kernel for meego to work | 23:10 |
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| TurboVomit | that's sad | 23:11 |
| TSCHAKeee | welcome to the first gen bite | 23:11 |
| TurboVomit | i always dreamed about moblin on eeepc701 | 23:11 |
| TurboVomit | eeepc 701 and his 7'' screen :) | 23:11 |
| TSCHAKeee | why when you can get a new eeePC that's more powerful | 23:11 |
| TSCHAKeee | for less | 23:11 |
| TurboVomit | moi got a 1008HA | 23:12 |
| TurboVomit | 1,6 Ghz woohoo | 23:12 |
| TurboVomit | moblin work great on this | 23:12 |
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| TurboVomit | 701 got limitation | 23:15 |
| TurboVomit | good to see if an os can run on slow configuration | 23:16 |
| TurboVomit | like puppy linux | 23:16 |
| CosmoHill | cos you could pet it? | 23:17 |
| TurboVomit | because it's fast as death | 23:17 |
| TurboVomit | even with 100mhz processor | 23:17 |
| TurboVomit | even with 64 of ram | 23:18 |
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| TurboVomit | i hope meego will read mp3 ahahah | 23:24 |
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| TurboVomit | meego irc is not very fun | 23:48 |
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| lcuk | TurboVomit, what would make it fun | 23:52 |
| lcuk | party streamers? | 23:52 |
| lcuk | clowns? | 23:52 |
| TurboVomit | yeah | 23:52 |
| TurboVomit | i like clowns | 23:52 |
| * CosmoHill puts makeup on lcuk | 23:52 | |
| * lcuk throws a custard pie @ CosmoHill | 23:53 | |
| * CosmoHill opens his mouth and noms | 23:53 | |
| * lcuk giggles because it was a chilly-custard pie | 23:53 | |
| TurboVomit | amazing | 23:53 |
| lcuk | chilli * | 23:54 |
| * lcuk cannot smell | 23:54 | |
| leinir | omnomnom chili custard ;) | 23:54 |
| lcuk | i see you cannot smell either | 23:54 |
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| * lcuk pours a bucket of water on CosmoHill | 23:56 | |
| * CosmoHill much better | 23:56 | |
| lcuk | shame it was frozen | 23:56 |
| lcuk | sorry | 23:56 |
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